pointe shoe fitter reacts to MICHELLE KHARE BALLET
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- En pointe in 6 weeks? Impossible. And a little traumatic for @JosephineLee .
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Hi friends! At 00:07 we do include a disclaimer that Josephine was only shown the 'pointe shoe part' of Michelle's video (she did not watch the whole thing since it's a half hour). We are aware that Michelle did not do a full performance en pointe, and that overall, her experience was relatively safe. But for the sake of those who don't know anything about ballet, we just want to be super clear that going en pointe after 6 weeks is not safe.
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Did she watch the whole thing eventually? I would love to see a react video to her performance at the end.
@@tashainjena I’m hoping she watches the entire performance as well. 🤞🏾🩰
I appreciate so much how careful and professional you are! Agree with all of your observations, and especially, that it should not feel this bad and that she was improperly 'fitted.' Actually not fitted at all, ugh. What bothers me about this clip is that it promotes the idea that pointe is painful, that you should be on the nail of your big toe, etc., which will lead young dancers who get pointe shoes in the boondocks to accept unnecessary pain and incompetent fitting because they think it's to be expected. I'm in my fifth decade of dancing and when I got my first pair of Pawlova's -- four decades ago! nothing, AND I MEAN NOTHING, hurt. My Russian-trained ballet teacher went with me to the shop and did the fitting.
You should do a fitting with her and let her go up on point again. So she can maybe experience a less painful moment on point 🙈
It's still going to hurt like crazy because it's not possible to build up enough foot strength in 6 weeks to pull up out of the shoes at all. The shoe will be holding her up, basically, if it wasn't rock hard she wouldn't have been able to basically rock up (only using her ankle, not her foot, no roll through at all). If you are sinking in the shoe due to lack of strength (or exhaustion) it puts way more pressure on the toes, is harder on the joints, and hurts way more. Plus you literally have to tough it out during the process of your toes toughening up. Kinda like developing a callous, but it's different, it's the soft tissue and skin on the end of the toe becoming tough enough to handle the pressure of all that weight compressing it.
@@shieldmaidenforchrist1310 I disagree, with a bar for support, you shouldn’t be experience that much pain even if you’re not pulling up. I have been back on pointe for a while, but I remember trying out pointe shoes after a very long break and while I had old muscle memory, I highly doubt I was really capable of pulling up properly. I wasn’t in horrible pain.
@@shieldmaidenforchrist1310 It would only be trying it out so she would not get to the point of exhaustion and would be fitted so that she does not sink. Toe pads also come to mind. Excrutiating pain doesn't really... Like I honestly believe Josephine would know how to take care of a situation like this.
@@thewayiam203 Plus Michele has done a ridiculous amount of training and is very athletic - of course ballet foot strength is very unique, but she isn't starting from zero
I love it when Josephine goes "Aww so pretty" when she watches the professional ballerina dancing. Such a precious moment.
You can totally hear her deep love for ballet in that moment ❤️
Agree! Josephine is the best!!!!
I said the same thing, that clip is SO beautiful 2:28 to 2:39
omg this is the exact same energy as costumers' reactions to actresses complaining about how much corsets hurt lol. like yeah it should feel different from what you're used to, maybe a little uncomfortable at first, but if it's properly fitted it shouldn't be painful!
I love you.
Word sis
Thank you! Say it louder for the people in the back!
Exactly
YES!!
BEFORE YOU GUYS COME FOR ME, Michelle has toe pads on AND her shoes were semi broken in. Obviously how I broke her pair in would be different from how myself as a professional ballerina. And these were stock shoes that were sent for this video so unfortunately they did not fit correctly.
And this was done just for a quick clip for her challenge. Please don't hate, it took a lot of confidence for Michelle to try this challenge!
I think no one who watched the whole video Michelle did, would hate on you. Yes, wrong fitting shoes, but she just tried them to see how it feels, she didn't do the performance on them. And the job both you did as a teacher and Michelle as a student was impressive. I mean she changed her diet and went to the gym in between classes... and learned 3 dances to perform in 6 weeks, and she did lifts... it's a lot and it reminded me of all my first experiences in ballet as an adult (just compressed into 6 weeks, and without the pointe- I had to wait 2 years for those). For ballet 6 weeks is nothing. And you were perfect as teacher for such a task, encouraging and explaining. Big fan of you btw
this is a great example of how not every pro dancer is a pro teacher. those pointe shoes weren't broken in at all and she had no padding and they were clearly killing her metatarsals!! just so sad because i know what its like to be forced to dance in horrible shoes and it really does hurt 100000x more than a properly fitted shoe.
That makes perfect sense. I'm not even a dancer, but I feel *horrible* watching this and seeing everyone's comments...
She didn't actually do anything on pointe. The full video is half an hour where all but a couple minutes are purely demipointe, posture and simple moves. The pointe work was an extremely brief part of the video basically showing that untrained pointe doesn't work.
She actually did have toepads on!! The dancer that gave Michelle the shoes actually explained it in a comment. Here it is:
Alison Stroming
3 months ago
BEFORE YOU GUYS COME FOR ME, Michelle has toe pads on AND her shoes were semi broken in. Obviously how I broke her pair in would be different from how myself as a professional ballerina. And these were stock shoes that were sent for this video so unfortunately they did not fit correctly.
And this was done just for a quick clip for her challenge. Please don't hate, it took a lot of confidence for Michelle to try this challenge!
well i think if she had them fit correctly and if she couldve broken them in herself it would have been better because it helps so so much to have them broken in to your own feet.
She was very safe about the whole thing and really only tried the pointe shoes on for a short period of time and did not wear them for her performance at all. She even had a disclaimer about that in her video to make sure that people knew it's not safe to just put them on and dance without any proper training.
You should offer to do a proper fitting on her to see how different her experience would be!
omg, please! yes! do it.
Yessss I'm sure Michelle would be so down too
Why do they set people up for failure! It’s bad enough you’re putting a rookie on pointe, give them a shoe that fits. It’s got to be in the budget.
IKR?! A bad fitting shoe and a well fitting shoe costs the same!
@@ThePointeShop Sometimes I think people actually want to maintain an air of mystery and exclusivity around pointe. If everyone is struggling and in pain than it must be something only a few people can do, rather than something many people, even adults, can achieve with patience and practice.
@@ThePointeShop, I never did ballet, and I used to use cheap Ked-knockoff tennis shoes to pop up on pointe to see over crowds. ...And it didn't hurt. I think I'm a weirdo, though.
@@amyhull754 I used to pop up on pointe in my adidas shelltoed sneakers to reach books on higher shelves at Borders and it never hurt me either. I only had a year of ballet when I was like 6 or 7.
@@crazycatlady1988, yep...when you're light of weight and *strong*....
It's hilarious to see Josephine go from horror to admiration and back to horror.
Having worked with beginner adult ballet students for 10+ years, I am not surprised she finds this extraordinarily painful in a way it would not be to someone who experienced a more traditional transition to pointe; especially after only 6 weeks. Young ballerinas don’t understand how much preparatory pain tolerance they have acquired simple by wearing ballet slippers. Practicing tendus and landing properly takes that acquired pain tolerance to a whole different level. We dancers are accustomed to feeling our toes squished together as well as feeling our weight upon surfaces of the foot other than sole or the pad of the toe. We don’t realize how painful a tendu derrière is to someone who lacks experience. Knowing that, I can imagine being on full pointe would be very intense. This is just one of the preliminary concepts that affect how dancers are able to work in pointe shoes.
I never thought of that, but it actually makes sense!
Also her toenails may not be trimmed so she’s probably in hella pain at the teachers not showing her what’s right or wrong
I've never worn a pair of ballet shoes in my life, but as a frequent corset wearer this gave me flashbacks to all the times I've had to deal with misinformation about how painful and unhealthy they are. I sympathise with all of you ballerinas on a new level, now.
Corsets are meant to be worn still. Pointe shoes are meant to be active.
“How unhealthy they are?” We don’t go onto point until after four years of training, I don’t know what you’re talking about
@@elenamichaels9658 I know this was commented 9 months ago, but for people still coming here, the original commenter is saying that the idea of corsets being painful and unhealthy is complete misinformation, and as someone who used a corset that's infuriating. The idea of pointe shoes being painful and unhealthy is similar misinformation and they see a lot of their own experience in this misconception. The person replying has misinterpreted this as meaning pointe shoes are painful and unhealthy, and has taken offense. Corsets are not painful nor are they unhealthy.
I watched that video and I'm actually really disappointed to find that they didn't give her the proper sized pointe shoes. She's not really getting the experience then, is she? Not to mention she's being mislead that that level of pain of normal.
I definitely think you should watch the whole thing. Not show it all here, but see how the experience was overall
Never tried ballet, but I can definitely vouch for the importance of a proper fitting by a trained footwear specialist before attempting something technical and strenuous. The first time I bought a pair of ice climbing boots, the young, inexperienced guy at the store put me in boots that were very high quality, but didn't fit my foot shape and were much too small. After a long day of climbing in them, I had bleeding blisters on my heels and permanent nerve damage in both my big toes. The next time I bought boots, I flew all the way to Seattle to get them properly fitted at a reputable shop, and my subsequent climbing experiences were 1000% better. No pain, no blisters, no nerve damage, just warmth, comfort and stability all day long. God bless shoe fitters!
You have such a great sense of humor, and are so amazingly knowledgeable, that it is just a delight watching your videos. To share, I have performed with quite a few ballets, but thank God I was playing the violin! I have a tough enough time with ballroom dance, let alone ballet. So, even though I will likely never go on pointe (as I am a marathon runner, and I destroy my feet enough as it is), I watch your videos just because you are such a fun lady with an absolutely great personality. Lots of good wishes for all that you do.
I saw her video about a year ago and i think about it everyday. I'm not on pointe yet and I've been training (inconsistently but since Feb i take ballet classes almost every day) for 7 years!
My first pair were really tight (I didn’t understand what the fitter was looking for when she asked me questions) so I was like “why is this so much more painful for me than the rest of the class?”
After my second pair (a totally different shoe) I figured out why
I let myself get completely spoiled by your videos so when I went for my own fitting, I told the lady every detail about the shoes I was trying on like "it hurts here", "demi pointe is harder because the vamp is digging into my foot".... yeah and she told me "we cannot do anything about it, you'll soon get used to it, this is the best size we have for you"
So every store doesn't have this big of a variety?!?!?!? 😂 I should have expected this
When I tried on Gaynor Mindens (my first time ever in pointe shoes) I was surprised how much more comfortable they were than I expected. And they felt like they fit me just right. When I tried on a few others, like Principle, Freeds, and this other one, they were more uncomfortable, but that had to do with the fit.
Yes! Please have her on your channel for a fitting! I would love to see her reaction to the difference.
For all the people recommending that Josephine fit shoes for her, you gotta remember that there HAS to be a caveat to that, namely that she actually go through the necessary training first. Like she mentioned in the video, Josephine would never do that for someone who only had 6 weeks of training.
I mean she fitted Dads and people for fun, while they safely held onto bars. It’s not completely out of left field. Fitting someone for a TV clip is not the same as sending someone away with a pair of pointe shoes to dance in when you know they aren’t ready for pointe.
it was pretty bad for me for the first time. I was Profesional fitted and easily got over my box. altho I did kill my shoes in a week because they started to bend near the knuckles and I have really narrow and shallow feet so it was hard to find a shoe that would fit that I wouldn't sink in. Luckily I have found shoes that work well for me after 8 years on pointe.
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Thats a great idea 😆
Natalia has been on pointe at least since she was 8, so she has an incredible amount of strength in her feet and ankles. She was doing hops on pointe at 10. With her incredible strength, she prefers a softer shoe and more space in the front part. Some professional ballerinas even cut the shank to 3/4 because they're that strong. I don't dance on pointe often, so I double pad my tender baby toes and don't alter the shoes in any way.
I wish the video of her preparing her shoes was still online. I think it got wiped off the face of the Earth
omg yes!
Yes please!
She needs to do a pointe shoe fitting with you. She seems nice. She deserves to have a positive pointe shoe experience.
Your rx when you realize it’s Irina Dvorovenko is adorable.
Fun fact: That wasn’t after six weeks of training I think it was just after 2 or maybe 3 weeks
Although I appreciate the comedic effect, her (Michelle Khare) video kinda put some misconceptions on what pointe shoes are supposed to feel like. A correct fitting would make the shoe feel like a part of your feet. My pointe shoes feel so on pointe (pun intended) that I can choose not to wear any padding and still, it would work! I wear minimal padding for comfort
I would LOVE to see a react to sukhishvili
rehearsal and performances ! I still don't understand how standing that long on pointe without support is even possible and I woul love to see a comment from a classical ballet perspective
yesss yess yess!! I've been asking for the same thing a few videos ago! :D
Yes, me too! When I did Irish dancing, we kind of went 'en pointe' in tap shoes (but it was very claw-like), but those have a tiny platform, this just looks like they're crunching their toes. Which is fine, I can do that, even maybe walk and turn on it, but those hops they do? Yeah, that's beyond anything I thought the foot could do!
I’m 30 and have always loved ballet and never had the opportunity to take classes. I’d love to dance en pointe and have no freaking idea where to even start lmao. I love these videos, they may be the closest I ever get.
It's never too late to start!! Just take beginner ballet classes and express to your teacher upfront that you're interested in pointe so they can consider you for it (a good teacher will give a lot of corrections and wait *at least* a year for a brand new dancer). There's really nothing like pointe and you'll be so glad you did it!
Hi Josephine. I have much respect for you. I am so glad you give wonderful fittings. I wish you were around in the 80's when I danced. You might have found me a pair I could actually "get over!"
OMG! I love Michele! I’ve seen that video, and I’m commenting before I watch this whole video. I’ll come back with my comments.** OK, I’m confused. You didn’t watch the entire video? Because she doesn’t dance in pointe. Is there a second part to your video Josephine?** OK I just re-watched your video and saw the disclaimer. I hope you post the full video with your reaction to her performance, I think it was absolutely golden! 🩰❤️
She doesn't care about facts.
@@NoThankUBeQuiet what are you talking about?
I was wondering the same. There more to the video.
She doesn't have any toe pads! That's fine for a trained dancer who likes to feel their shoes, but for a non dancer in a random shoe that doesn't fit?! Give that girl an ouch pouch!!!!
She did have toe pads on:) it's probably her nails and of course the improper fitted shoes
Is the body weight times 12 when you have two feet on the floor? Then does it become a 24 x when you are on pointe on one foot? I'd be interested in learning more about that.
Great video as always, thank you Josephine! ♥️❤️💕💞💗💖💓
maybe the pressure increases. It is not possible for the weight to increase
I assume Josephine was referring to PSI (pressure per square inch) rather than actual weight :)
Your videos are just like so relaxing and your so kind this video was so funny lol
Lovely video of ballet
Oh Lordy! I’ve always loved ballet. Would love to try it as an adult. But I don’t think one should be moving up to pointe only after 6 weeks.
Agreed. I did ballet as adult and went en pointe as an adult, but that was after a couple years of training and my teacher’s approval. It was painful yes, but not that intense.
If you want to try it you should go for it!
I am not a dancer but I love your videos. I can’t help but wish your reaction videos were a longer length. You have the best reactions.
Omg I just finished watching this! So funny!
It isn't just the pointe shoe that gets you up on pointe. It's the strength of the muscles that have been built up in your thighs, calves and feet that pull you up on pointe. It is to be hoped that any one going on pointe has done several years of ballet training, bending and stretching exercises to build muscle. Going on pointe is the next step after many exercises on demi pointe. If there has been no preparation a person could injure their ankles or worse by trying to stand on pointe. Those with flat feet and no arch will almost find it impossible to balance on pointe.
I love you so much, Josephine!
I was dancing in shoes that didn't fit me for years and would always bruise my nails when dancing, meaning I could only wear them once a week in order to handle the pain. All of that despite being fitted professionally for every pair. I recently got a pair of better fitting Gaynors and my life has changed. After watching some of these videos I thing they still are not ideal, but miles better than any other shoe I have worn
Please react to “I trained like a professional ballerina | lucie for hire” I think it would be really fun to watch you react to it the video is lighthearted and is really appreciative of ballet, thank you for reading this if you do and I love your channel
I’m a ballet dancer on pointe and she isn’t pointing her feet. She probably thinks it hurts because its the wrong shoe or she hasn’t cut her nails.
If you watch the whole original video, in the final performance (not on point) she doesn’t point here feet even then.
Hi, Josephine
I'm 37 years old and I'm going to my first ballet class tonight!
You should do a part 2 and see her performance at the end!
I remember trying my friend pair of pointe shoes, and even though they were à bit to tight, he didn't hurt a lot, it was pretty cool!!!
You should react to the ballet in some of the older barbie films!
It would be amazing if Michelle and you did a collab with a proper fitting and talking about the difference in how it felt for her!
Thank you.
Yes im so happy you did this!😁
This reminds me of the story about Josephine Baker teaching herself to dance on pointe.
Yes! I have waited for this for a long time!!! :D :D :D
wow i totally forgot about michelle omg i used to watch her all the time
You should definely give her a proper fitting. That way she'll have less painful memories connected to pointe
I have those great feet where my middle toe is longer than my big toe, plus the bunions on both sides of the foot, both feet. We didn’t get fitted for odd feet when I was hung and dancing, we just used spacers, tape and padding. So the shoes always hurt a bit but I loved every damn minute of it.
It’s better now and shoes can be customized better. This was decades and decades ago.
She said: “I can’t get on board of someone going on point after six weeks” when this was only for a video and I went on point after 5 months of ballet 😅
My guess is incorrect fit, and her big toes have ingrown toenails, in which case, it is torture. Can you talk about this? I ws dancing on toe after 3 months. I was able, though. I excelled at ballet, and didn't start until I was 18. I loved it, and danced with two companies. Did a quadruple pirouette and landed in a perfect fourth my first toe Pointe class. Boom!
Yesss thank you 🥰
Im not a ballerina, but i have a friend way in hs who is, she at one point brought with her her pointe shoes, and so i tried it, she allowed me to do so, it's not that bad honestly i did couple of turns on her instructions. But it would obviously hurt if you are on pointe for around 30mins or so, but when it's just like 5mins -10 mins, it's honestly not bad
I hope you watched the WHOLE video. The point shoe part was just to give Michelle the feeling of point shoes. She didn’t do a half bad job as a little swan.
Ms. Alison Stroming is my ballet and pointe teacher!!
I saw this episode! She looked good for 6wks!
She is not wearing toe pads like most people do that are not professional. So yes it would hurt not using a toe pad cause it is fabric and wood
There is no wood in a pointe shoe dear... Everyone wears padding when they are starting, it's actually proffesionals the ones who sometimes don't wear padding.
Wood lol!
You talk about messing up your first pair of pointe shoes… I miscut my ribbons and they wouldn’t go around my ankles and I had to get bright pink ribbons form the craft store! Let’s just say I didn’t miscut the next year!
A thing I’ve done is where I get ballerina school (ment for school) and I’ve done point in them and other things I’m not even a ballerina and it works perfectly fine but I also have tired to do point WITHOUT ANYTHING ON MY FEET
Yes, do a fitting for Michelle!
My first time en pointe was that painful. We used to stuff lambs wool in the box and I remember my toe nails hurting. They were a cappezzio shoe but no idea what model. After about 6 hours en pointe the pain largely disappeared but they always hurt a bit and my feet bled for years. I wish I had a good shoe fitter at the time.
You should watch the whole thing!
I dream of the day proper pointe shoe fitting is not only more standardized but also taught to ballet students as part of their training
I do just want to say in her video she did say she just tried them on for experience because they know it’s dangerous she didn’t actually perform on point but no hate just wanted to clarify love both of you keep doing what you do
When I was little I remember putting on my mom's first toe shoes (old blood in it and everything) and I would put them on in the kitchen and walk on the linoleum floor in them on point. I know NOW that I really could have messed myself up, but as a 10/11 year old it was just fun. I thought to myself, "If it hurts that bad then she probably doesn't have the right shoe.
This video is amazing 😂
You should see the one she did as a figure skater. That one was a bit intense too.
I bought point shoes on Amazon and I dance on them without any experiance in Ballett. It feels good though and its fun.. But I feel like I shouldn't do that right? Like its too risky.?
This is not at all how I felt when I tried on my friends pointe shoes (I didn't actually stand on pointe). Hers were already broken in and our feet are almost the same size, so the only thing I felt was ridiculous excitement over how pretty they were and how nice my high-arched feet looked.
Haiiiiii love your videos!
Josephine don’t take this the wrong way you are an ABSOLUTE FAVORITE in my life I wanna get fitted with you so bad 😆 but I love how you only showed a couple minutes and didn’t show any more Ive seen that video there’s definitely more 😆
There’s a disclaimer at the beginning of the video stating that she only watched this one small portion of the original video.
SHE IS SO FUNNY 😂😂
Yass this was I was looking for u to react
I do wish you had reviewed the whole video.
I would love to see you fit her and have her go on pointe to see the difference.
personally i do think its worth pointing out that if you've never done ballet, let alone pointe, it would probably be a lot more painful to go up on pointe than it would be if you'd been doing it for many years. I can say for certain that my toes/feet are not strong enough or flexible enough to support my body the way ballet dancers' can. Even just doing some of the basic non-pointe poses is very painful simply bc I haven't spent years training and stretching my body in that particular way. Just a thought!
Morning!
You should fit Michelle Khare for a video
“as if the sewing part is the worst part *evil laugh*” sad but true
It took me 4 days to see the first ones messed up and re did it in 3
I got my first point shoe today!
Good Morning 🌞
Someone else said this already, but I feel like I need to reiterate... her toenails look too long. I paused and examined at 1.28. Taking into account the angle of the camera, the flesh on the tip of her big toe will compress in the shoe to at least the edge of the nail. If I'm right about that (which is likely, based on her comment), then of course she's going to feel pressure on the toenails - they're taking more weight than they should. Ouch, that is definitely painful! Someone should have told her she has to trim those babies right down as far as they'll comfortably go AT LEAST the night before. That, combined with a shoe that looks too big, as Josephine identified... I mean... sigh. Congratulations to Michelle on her bravery for not only trying but also going on camera, and kudos to the teacher for going slow with her, that is important. But she's describing a kind of pain that she shouldn't be experiencing to the general public, who don't know any better. That's what I find disappointing.
Love your channel!! In other react vids could you explain why it shouldn’t hurt etc just for fun and info
1:00 Can't have been that bad my sisters first pair of pointe shoes took her seven and a half hours with the assistance of our mom.
I really miss my ballet class... I want to baaack
Please get Michelle Khare in for a fitting!
It absolutely is normal for her to feel pain as a novice trying out pointe prematurely. Sure, improper fitting is likely part of it, but you also can't compare her situation with a normally trained ballerina. It's like saying that running a 9-minute mile shouldn't be too bad. Yes, it is true that for people who have a basic baseline of aerobic fitness, running a 9-minute mile is absolutely nothing. But for people who do not exercise, it is difficult. Similarly, for people who've built up the muscle strength for pointe, the pain may not be too bad as long as your shoe is properly fitted. But for someone who doesn't have those muscles for pointe, it will be painful because of the lack of control within the foot itself.
jus making it clear for the people watching . Michelle does this thing called challenge accepted on her yt channel she challenges herself to do multiple things that no normal human can ( so not just ballet). Yes it is dangerous to go en point even for 6 weeks but pls be reminded that michelle never danced in her whole life. so for the people who may think that she is a actual ballerina going en point for the first time she isnt :) and trurst me her resume if she made one would look impeccable if she mentions everything she has done on challenge accepted
Since you are sewing the laces on, do they ever come off while dancing?
yeah mine have
Ribbons never come off if you sew them well ...
@@tijay8507 very tru
Her shoes weren’t broken in at all! 😬