NO, Your Skyline GTT Will Never Be a GT-R
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2024
- While it's possible to replicate a Nissan Skyline GT-R by modifying your Skyline GTT, it will still NOT be a GT-R ....and that's not a bad thing.
Building a Skyline GT-R out of GTT donor car is an amazing accomplishment, but legally, it can never be a GT-R - the VIN never lies.
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I'd rather have a real GTT than a fake GTR
I wouldn't mind having a real Gtt or a real GTR. I don't like poser cars UNLESS it's built as a clone with the same power train as what it's built to look like and only as the owner divulged it as a clone and not the real thing.
A gtr rep is REALLY a gtt
i think saying you have modified a gtt would be far more respectable then just saying you own a gtr i dont know why they want to hide all the hard work they have done
Correct me if I’m wrong but would that most likely be the same exact car?🤨
@@FWDSUXARSE poser car this that who gives af if it looks good and you enjoy it that’s all matters, eventually you learn appreciating what you have is a lot more enjoyable than being a snob about everything
In Poland there's more M-badged BMWs than factory managed to produce.
I went to a car show last week and there was this GTT with GTR badges, weird aftermarket bumpers etc.
Asked the owner what he has done to the engine, RB26 single turbo, injection blablabla
But when i asked him to open the hood he said "the latch is broken and i dont have tools with me"
Yeah that conversation was over in that moment
Shout out to the people who got ripped off buying a GTT instead GTR
I know it’s subjective but obviously I’d love to own a gtr but can’t beat a RWD manual, I’d enjoy the hell out of a gtst or a GTT
Reminds me that one scene in Initial D when Itsuki got trolled big time when he accidently bought a AE85 instead of AE86 🤣
@@hybridAbsol 😂 I’m sure the majority of people know what they are getting though, your average human wouldn’t go buy a skyline anyways 😂
@@jamesclegg8204 exactly but what im saying is that ppl like Itsuki still exist, prime sample of a underaged person getting into cars, arrogant but near zero knowledge on things, carelessly buying something without checking everything then only to become a clown at the end
Plus his image was an easy target for car dealers as they are very cunning, especially at used car lots 😅
You mean the other way around 😂 GTT is the way to go nowadays, anyone who pays Ferrari money for an old Nissan is being robbed blind.
Honestly a R34 GTT is still super rad. Just have that for what it is
Its also important to remember that over half of the GTT to GTR conversions you see have horrible body work
yeah cuz the east bear company is long gone. They had imho the best kit...URAS is bad. Of course the best would be nissan oem but that would cost fortune :-D
Very true
You forgot to mention that you can buy a nice R32 GTR or even a R33 GTR for the price of an R34 GTT
imagine being embarrased you have an gtt like bro what happened to the car community
They're still worth a lot too now
Tiktok kids with no cars think that if it isnt one of the cars they use in Forza or GTA it isn’t worth anything
@Mr Oversteer also add those F&F idiots who thinks all GTRs are Skylines and all Skylines are GTRs. Heck, I even met this peep who thinks RX7s are all Veilside. He got roasted hard.
As somebody who did the swap from gtt to gtr (but kept the rb25), you are 100% right. I rock a custom made GTT Grill Emblem and looks perfect. Looks like GTR but is and will always be a GTT.
And side note, I didn’t pay that much for the build, with oem parts except rear quarters who are in FRP. Did the work myself, paint etc, body parts were like 3-4k
I like gtt rear fenders more than gtr
did you convert from rwd to awd?
People whom aesthetically modify their GT-T’s to look like GT-R’s should just replace the GT-R badge with a Nismo badge ( if they are truly Nismo tuned), or remove the badge/s altogether. Then If someone says “that’s not a real GT-R”, the owner can say, “I never said it was.” It’s a GT-T with a GT-R conversion; hopefully a full one, for more respect considering the work done. Like Craig said, it’s better to not even bother doing all that work and just be authentic and and enjoy a GT- T or 330i for what it is.
Yea, I agree. I would only use GTR badges if it's both a body conversion and an RB26 + 4wd drivetrain from a crashed donor car.
Imma buy a GT-R and slap GTT badges
I feel for the people paying $40k for a GTT 🫣
How about $60k?
tho u cant afford one
I don't mind when someone adds upgraded body mods to look like the higher trim, but a very different thing is to go around claiming it is indeed a higher trim lol. Kinda like an SXT claiming to be a hellcat, which i am starting to see more and more lately lol
The rwd skylines should be embraced, because they still have all the potential of the skyline platform. The rwd cars have their advantages through weight and simplicity, while still having the skylines aftermarket of the GTR’s.
I bet 99% of all the 12 year old Supra and R34 kids didn't even know trims besides the GT-R existed
I knew there were different trims, but I thought the GTT still had the RB26 and AWD.
I figured it was a difference of suspension, tune, maybe boost, amd some aero bits.
TIL
@@fatpad00 ye but most r34 kids are like 10 years old and think nitrous is a boost powerup you can activate any time you want and the supra has 1000hp stock
lol
I knew though since I played the first gran turismo and it had the GTS-T versions of R-32 GTR.
They're most likely those kids who are influenced by F2F or consumed by tiktok. They think that all GTRs are Skylines & all Skylines are GTRs.
I met this kid who thinks RX7s are Veilside. He got roasted beyond redemption.
Aussie here🇦🇺🙋🏿♂️ Skyline 33GTS , 32GTS4 , 34GTT etc , are all great cars in their own right and with the correct mods are all absolute weapons , dudes need to check themselves changing badges 🤦🏿♂️
33gts4 is a insane car closest thing to a GTR
The real tragedy is the amount of good condition GTTs will decrease, which will make the GTT more rare.
This is no different than putting SS badges on a regular ass Chevelle, or M3 badge on a regular 3 series. People have been doing this shit since at least the 1960's. Skylines aren't special. The thing with Skylines is a lot of people don't even know the lesser models exist. They don't know Skylines come in 4 cylinder, 4 door taxi specs.
And just like Craig points out, everyone looking to see if it's a true super sport or a clone they go straight for the Vin plate.
I used to see SS emblems stuck on Chevys that never had the SS package as an option. :D
@@xbrandon502x There is going to be vin fuckery, 100% and even people who know about the GT-R registry, who are afraid the car sells to someone else if they wait is going to get burned. There was already vin fuckery 20 years ago in my country with R34's registrered as R33's with R33 vins etc to get around taxes and emissions.
I owned a '94 R33 GTS25t from ' 99 to '06 and I could not be more proud that I had a mechanically simpler, rear wheel drive, no ABS, no TCS, no Stability Control, 5 speed manual, pure driver's car that required me to be more responsible for the car's performance. The last thing I wanted was for anyone to confuse it for a GTR.
GTRs are amazing but the car does a lot of the heavy lifting with the driving. The GTS25t, GTT and GTS-t all are fantastic cars that should get plenty of recognition in their own right.
The Gtt and GTR are both amazing cars, but People who are willing to pay 200k+ for a 90’s Nissan are smoking crack and are being laughed at, they are good but not worth that money.
It's such a shame the modern gtr doesn't have that wow factor. Nissan design team needs to be more like Porsche with the 911. The r35 never grue on me. Can't wait for a new skyline design, something that looks like an r30 and r32
I don’t know a lot of people spending that much money unless it’s a rare special edition or a fully built GTR. Most R32-R33 GTRs go for $50,000-$60,000.
@@UnrelatedNonsense I was referring mostly to the R34GTR, but even the prices for 32’s and 33’s are getting ridiculous now
for sure. I'm turned off of pretty much the whole catagory. Like even the real cheap 90's JDM performance cars or even just performance adjacent are overpriced. some of these cars really aren't all that great to begin with, and now they're 30+ years old and ratty and people want $20k for their 240. bruh. I'll buy some cheap mustang gt for $5k and probably have more fun.
its 40k vs 200k tho
Thanks for making this. As a GTR owner, I'm glad someone actually said it. Skylines are the only car that up badging is "OK" to the greater public. It's "OK" to lie about what you have and misrepresent yourself to unknowing people. Yet, if you upbadge an Evo, Mustang, Mercedes, BMW, etc, etc, everyone will call you out on it. Yet if it's a skyline, you get cheered on for it. GTTs are absolutely cool cars, especially when they're built like modified GTTs. There are GTT specific body kits, GTT specific engine mods, and things you can do with them that you can't with a GTR. When every GTT looks like a GTR, they're all the same. And, boring...
The GTR chassis itself is actually different than a GTT in a number of areas. Example: The transmission tunnel in a GTR is wider to accommodate the transfer case. If you put ATESSA in a GTT chassis you'd have to cut a hole in it. Again - no one is going through this kind of labor for a "conversion", and even then it will still never be a GTR.
@@ACommenterOnTH-cam @mdnyt_r. Look me up. Leave it to internet kids to assume everything is a lie.
Man 99,9% of GTT owners just slap the body kit (Z-tune) and call it a GT-R
Maybe few people done the complete conversion and if they have that GT-R badge...it is kinda ok but how many on earth is that?
@@richardhasek5859 it’s still not a GTR. As Craig agrees in the video. It’s just a tribute or a modified GTT.
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$150k+ for a 1990s Nissan?? Ya’ll are fucking crazy
People have been rebadging cars for decades. SS badges on non-SS Camaros and Chevelles. Shelby badges on non-Shelby Mustangs etc. And not to mention all of the "tribute" cars that get rebuilt as higher end models.
It reminds me of when people take base model Lancer and make them look like EVO s while making 160HP
That's actually a good comparison because I think the main part of the base Lancer and Lancer Evo body is identical just like the skyline bodies
I dont know why you'd pose and claim its a real GTR, when all the work and sweat you put into converting a GTT into a GTR is consiterably more impressive than just buying and owning a GTR.
As a former Civic Si owner who used to see "RSX Type-R"s at car meets, thank you
Hey man! Cool of you to include some clips of my GTT Drifting from my youtubechannel 🏁🔥 I LOVE my GTT for what it is, rear wheel drive! Not that I have the money for GTR, but GTT is what I really want so I have can drift around and have fun making content 👌🏼
I actually envy you man, your GTT looks rowdy! I wouldn't dare to take my GT-R to the track. I'm sticking to the summer night drives while crashing some meetings here and there.
What made the gtr special was the performance for a cheap price, at 100 -200k there are better cars to buy
especially for a 25 yr old nissan
name a 'better' car to buy
A rwd R34 sounds bad ass to me.
Facts drifting everywhere 😂
I'm not sure why people are bagging Craig out so hard for this video. He is 100% right. When I first got my GTT the first thing anyone ever said was "WHEN ARE YOU PUTTING A GTR KIT ON IT!!!!!"
How ridiculous, why pose, why not appreciate what you already have, it makes zero sense.
He is 100% correct in everything he said, if you have a GTT, embrace it, it's a great car, it's RWD and can handle crazy power on an unopened motor.
Craig, you are one of the realest car guys I've ever come across.
🎉🎉🎉
A GTR costs 4x what a GTT costs. I can't afford either.....
Most people that modify their GTT to have a GTR look do it because it simply looks good. The vast majority of GTT owners are proud to own a GTT and don't try and fool people to have a GTR.
spot on
There is no shame in having a GTT. Some people out there don’t even have a vehicle and have to catch the bus everyday. Be Grateful, and God Bless You 🙏
I'd love to build a GTR-looking GTT but I would never call it a GTR
I woukd have special badges made were it sayd gtT in bright red on the t :) i wouldent lie id still say its a ggt or NOT THE GTR r34 :p
@@darylobey8867 that badge actually looks pretty good
I'm content with a GTT build using GTR wheels, bumper and spoilers. But placing that GTR emblem on there is sacrilegious.
Content?
Yes content
I’ll agree
no GTR emblems on GTT
I’d be happy as a pig in shit to own a GTT and proudly show that off as a GTT
Nice car
This is a problem throughout the whole automotive scene. V6 cars with “SS” or “srt” base bmw and Mercedes’ with the M badge and AMG, even for put a mustang badge on a EV rolling turd.
Look man I’m all for the sentiment but the age of the combustion engine is over. We are living in the pinnacle of CE technology in terms of performance, reliability, and economy. V6s are going away too.
We will only have turbo 4s for a while then that’s it, the world changes.
Embrace it old man.
@@fritztm9261 well I won’t be participating in those types of vehicles I’ve got a 1965 mustang with a 331 and a K5 blazer with a 454 and they run cleaner and are better for the planet than any electric car made today, I’m only 27 btw
@@nowwaynamenit running cleaner and better is just factually wrong. That Mustang and Blazer have been running for so long (I.e emitting so much carbon pollution over their lifetimes) a new EV already beats them in terms of environmental cleanliness even with how resource intensive producing them are. I’m 28 I have the last VR6 Passat, and a 06 Ford Ranger, I love CE as well.
I’m trying to tell you. By the time we are old gasoline will be like buying a vinyl record. Expensive and only for hobbyists.
@@fritztm9261 I am saying I will not participate in anything that has you waiting around at charging stations or sends huge amounts of emf radiation through your body as you drive. Old cars are far less resource intensive to produce and their batteries won’t pollute the earth. CE emissions can be filtered out with more trees but they keep chopping them down to put up more 5G towers. I am for a future where you don’t need permission from Elon to drive on the road. Gasoline will never go anywhere because it is a by product of the oil refining process and anything that moves need oil… also you forgot majority of charging stations get their power from coal plants or CE generators
Yep. Nothing wrong with a gtt. Own it.
Gosh, some people should be grateful to Even to get their hands on a Skyline, even if it’s not a GT-R
But they identify as a GTR
Oh shit someone better tell Smoky from Top Secret that he can’t have a gtr badge on his V35 Skyline 350GT…
That thing is badass regardless.
Yes, but going by the rules now set forth, Smokey is a poser and lame.
@@triffin it's just the guys opinion- at the end of the day he's just a random dude w/ a youtube channel- people can do as they please with their cars
I put the GT-R spoiler and MFD on my GTT and it bugs me every time I turn on the ignition and it says GT-R. I am completely satisfied with my GTT and have enough fun with the rear-wheel drive. 😅
I’d totally get a GTT and change some stuff to where it closely resembles a GTR but I would not slap any GTR badges on it. The GTT is the closest thing most of us will have to an actual R34 GTR.
If I ever got a chance to talk to someone with an R34 the first thing I'd do is ask to pop the hood
*Which is why you get a Supra instead.*
For the same amount of 150k, lol
I agree, as much as I love the Nissan Skyline I love the Supra more, I have a TT engine and everything from my first RZ supra to put into my SZ supra but atleast the body panels I dont need to change unless I am doing a bodykit. Even if I got my hands on a GTT 34 I wouldnt convert it as it still looks nice, is a fun rear wheel drive drift car and still fast.
Same thing you have the rz or sz stop playing one is worth double than the other
@@ivanweapon1196 Not really, difference is why scrap a perfectly good engine and hi-spec parts on a wrecked body RZ when I can transfer the stuff easily over to the SZ and cost less than buying a stock RZ. In fact considering I have the TT engine already, TT rear diff, TT gearbox, TT engine managment box, greddy intercooler, apexi airfilter, Blitz boost controller, Apexi AFC Neo etc etc already it will only cost me £600 to have do the conversion and they take away my NA engine and NA parts also to sell to people who need them, so I get my 400bhp supra that I know and love from before in a new body to drive around in again.
LOL
I have a feeling people care more about the looks then the performance. Because if they cared about performance the R32 is the Skyline to get.
Why R32 🤣🤣 if we’re talking stock for stock (really should specify, if we’re not) then we all know the R35 is the one..
@@X11CHASE 🤦♂️
@@X11CHASE r35 isnt a skyline, its a GT-R but its not a skyline
I respect someone who goes to all the work to make a perfect gtr replica more than a wealthy guy who straight up buys a gtr without doing anything but opening their cheque book
They still paid for it and while the gtr has a resale value a fake one would b rejected😂
I totally agree.
@@usanian83Wrong
I completely agree, as someone on Barrett Jackson said: "A rising tide lifts all ships!" I have enormous respect for the builders who build a perfect GTR tribute/clone and are upfront and honest about it!
Personally, I would buy a GTT, I like the simplicity and lower weight of rwd and simplicity of a single turbo, I agree with Craig, I'd build up a GTT, maybe go n/a with itbs or small turbo/no intercooler/straight pipes.
Respect/enjoy it for what it is.
110 000 dollars for a 25 year old GTT... I mean what world do we live in now ? These people could get an awesome C7 Z06 or a R35 for that kind of money, but no they decide to drop 110k on a fake gtr. My mind cannot comprehend that kind of behavior.
People pay near a cool million for a ferrari gt4 cam so you would be surprised, a nice car is a nice car, but an iconic car will always be an iconic car.
@@The_Knight_Rider1980 the gtt is not an iconic car
@@syrup_710 Never said it was but the GTR is.
@@The_Knight_Rider1980 ^he was talking about the gtt and how it's not at all worth the price.
@@syrup_710 Ah then you would be right then.
I'd love to have an ER34 Sedan. I don't see too much love for the 4 doors. I was at the Fujiwara Tofu Cafe in El Monte a few weeks ago and some dude rolled up in an R34 Sedan. It was sexy.
the doors are huge and heavy af, you can easily climb inside the back if you fold the front seat... and there is back space
I have an HR34 I got for $10K out here in the Middle East and loving it man. And every real car enthusiast respects the 4 door every bit as much as the 2 door. You're not beholden to the stigma of a GTR, you can take it and make it your own creation and enjoy it every bit as much.
Get a gtt and get a 500 dollar front bumper. Good enough
• Front OEM Bumper
• Front Fenders
• Skirtings
• Quarter panels
• Rear fenders
• BNR34 Rear wing
• RB26 engine
May do fine 😊
But if you wanna too much damn hell 💀.
• 6 speed transmission
• Nismo cluster
• ATESSA ET AWD system
• HICAS 4wl steering
• Multi function display
However how expensive you spend for ur GTT it will be never be a GTR bcs if u pop the hood and the people look at the VIN and will Realize ... Also the parts which I mentioned afterwards may cost around 95-120K alone
I would rather have a gtt. I personally like the idea of it rwd and I would make it look like a gtr but I wouldn't put the gtr badges on it
dream build
I'd just get a GTT, some TE37s, a GTR rep kit (no rear fenders), GTR wing and just rock it
Or other JDM 90s wheels and be different instead of being like everyone else nowadays with TE37s…
Shout out to those people who embrace they GTT and the v6 mustang, Camaro ect. It's must be amazing and great achievement to own those vehicles. Funny enough the same energy is not shown to C43 AMG owners. And c300 owners. Wonder why
You know, if I ever bought a GTT I would still be proud of it, no need to flex or cap saying is a GTR ; a GTT is still a beautiful ride
Like a woman stuffing her bra, false advertisement. That shit got me 🤣🤣🤣
Tbh my dream car is a R33 GTR or even the 400R but I’d take a GTT or GTST for the alternative a Skyline is a Skyline 🤷🏾♂️
the amount of money spend on a GTT to make it look like a GTR is ridiculous
at the end you'll sell it at loss when people will realise the car is fake
They could at least change the drivetrain to a GTR one. Expensive of course but if you want a GTR badge you gotta do that.. i would feel embarrased to pose as a GTR even tho the GTT is also badass on its own
I wouldn't mind getting a GTT as long as I'm happy owning a Skyline.
What people don't realize about rear quarter panels is that they have to be metal or carbon fiber ( and one piece), as the structural rigidity of the rear of the car depends on the rear quarter panel due to its unibody design. I think a roll cage may help with this, but even with that and in trunk structural support the car would be dangerously structurally unsound and will cause issues. Same with the bmw e30
It's still a skyline, so be happy you are few people to get yourself a skyline
Lol why, it's an old jalopy that will spend more time on jackstands than on the road. All the skylines that aren't gtr's for sale sit for aaaages. Loan on an old hoopty...unlikely. people with a brain go for a Lexus F car, coyote 5.0, late model turbo bimmer, supra...countless cars in the same ballpark that will smoke it.
The example for false advertisement was great 🤣🤣🤣
I think it's really dumb to spend 150 thousand for a 25 year old car. Just because it's a gtr. I'd rather buy a new gtr 36
It’s pretty standard for people to build replica cars. Especially when the original car is worth quarter million plus and you could build a higher performing car for a fraction of the price. It’s also pretty standard for original owners to get annoyed by it. Both people…. get over it, one of you has money the other doesn’t, both of you like the same car, same person, different life choices .
Conversions are understandable until you start calling your gtt a geniune gtr and try to sell it as a gtr
@@nohaistavittusit494 yeh but that sounds like more of a scam than idealising a GTR. A simple Vin check, local vehicle inspection to the country and match between Chassis number/Vin Plate would show that its not real. Forging those is not really the topic of discussion, that's just plain illegal.
I turned base model cb4a lancer to cd9a evoIII, yea, it never is the same as the real deal, but I did all the labor myself, engine swap, all wheel drive swap, body work, paint, rebuilding engine, interior etc.. I was really proud of it, sadly I had to sell it when I moved in the US (cuz I tell you, moving here cost more than building the car) I was trying to ask new owner how the car is doing and they told that they crashed and totaled it.. I can tell that it hurt a lot, specially cuz i sold the car dirt cheap
Yeah I'll keep this in mind when I buy a 50k GTT instead of a 200k GTR. I have no shame
Me too
Gtt with gtr bodykit but gtt badges...Simple as that
Best one I got was a Women telling me her E36 diesel was an M3 she put M3 parts on. But the moment she turned the Key it sounded like a London Taxi Cab
It's an M3 (package) 😂🙃
$110k for a GTT is absurb. Just get a used R35 at that point.
My GT4/GTT is AWD 6 speed and RB26. The last owner built the chassis to look like a GTR. It still has the GTR badges. I still say its GT4/GTT, but people still hate. Oh well.
I don‘t understand the hate…
I mean who can pay like 200k for a r34 gtr? Some people use a GT-T logo that looks like a GTR badge
There will always be haters. NO MATTER what you do. Stay true to yourself ;)
Remember, there is a lot of Jealousy.
Friend of mine got a sweet Porsche 944. No crazy mods, just very clean. At a show, another guy is all like.. why would you pick THAT Porsche... so we ask him, what do YOU drive? "Toyota RAV4..." Yeah, we didn't even need to say stfu, he told himself, answering our question.
Who tf cares? You own the car for yourself not to impressive others; they can go kick rocks. Most people who will hate on you are the same individuals who will never be capable of owning said car.
Have a look what the Australians have been doing with these
Rb 25-30 motors producing 1000++ wheel Hp
Rb30 with head change and stroked to 3.2
There is also a four door skyline ig?.?
Yes most definitely
Nissan stagea r34 would be so cool to own :)
yes, but highest trim is GTT
yeah
skyline er34
No your WRX will never be a STI 😂
The poor country equivalent of these are Mitsubishi Galant GTi owners rebadging them as VR-4s. I was baffled seeing those for the first time.
I totally understand the need to fill that void of owning a GTR by whatever means. However, with a budget like that, you can do a really cool GTT build and not look like a poser or a GTR wannabe. My idea from the top of my head:
- nice Rb25, stroked to a 2.8l, big single turbo, Plazmaman intake manifold, front mount intercooler
-Invest in a PPG/Samsonas/Hollinger or whatever sequential transmission as opposed to the Getrag 6 speed
- fat wheels & tyres, pumped rear guards, Z tune front guards, top secret bonnet.
- Get a Haltech/motec ecu with adapter harness
- Motec dash with a Motec --> R34 mfd casing and have it plug straight into your ECU which works 1000x better than a 90s MFD
I am an R34 GTR owner who was extremly lucky and feels blessed to have bought one when they were worthless, id respect anyone's GTT build 100 times over compared to someone who is trying to be a GTR. GTRs can get boring especially since everyone has the same build, but, seeing a fully hectic GTT would be amazing.
Youre describing a phenomenon that has been happening since the dawn of the sports car, it wont stop.... ever.
Don't worry, we won't stop laughing at them either 🤣
@@geoffcarsten1031 true, but these individuals are a large part of the enthusiast space, and spend as much money or more at times chasing their dream whatever that may be. It's funny, sad at the same time. But still glad they care enough to spend as this hobby is dying.
(Warning, long winded story ahead) This reminds me of my time at a tyre fitting company. In the UK we had a model of MkIV VW Golf called an R32 (not to be mistaken for the Skyline) and as a tyre fitter at the time I worked on quite a few of these as a tyre fitter as well as a service tech. Any who, on a quiet and sunny day we had a very young chap pull into our car park with a silver 4 door R32 MKIV Golf. As this was 2004/5 we commented on how much of a nice car he had and that he was quite lucky to own one at such a young age. This was while we were discussing what tyres he wanted and other services we offered etc... We were a little perplexed by the fact that he settled on budget tyres for, what was considered at the time in the UK, such a powerful car. Either way, I offered to drive his car in for him which he declined and drove it in for us instead. It was at this moment I realised that there was something not quite right with his car. All the body work was mint, the paint was factory, the wheels were not curbed, the exhaust tips were shiny and chrome and the car sat like an R32. What twigged to me that the car was not right were the brakes. Now, the car had rear disc brakes (relevant) but the front brakes looked hugely inadequate for what these cars made at factory power. As I jacked the car up, removed the wheels and THE SPACERS my initial gut feeling about this car was confirmed. It was a replica. What made this car and its owner very funny was I could over hear the owner talking to my foreman about his car and bragging about how fast it was and how well off he was to afford it etc... Well, when it came time to do the cars tracking and to drive it on the ramp I had to drive it for insurance purposes to get it on our 4 poster. I set the car up to be tracked then checked our data sheet for the tracking specs and depending on the exact spec of the car determined the tracking specs. As I knew the car was not a R32 (no 4wd system to be seen as well as the small brakes, tiny sump, etc) I shouted to my foreman to ask what the car was. The owner came out, having heard, and very proudly responded "an R32!" So I replied "no, what is it, really?" long pause "a 1.4..."
It tuned out to be a base spec, 1.4 Golf with a R32 kit on it and a rear disc brake conversion. The owner was very, very quiet afterwards and stopped bragging. This explained why he did not opt for more premium tyres, not that that stops people these days.....
Long story but I thought it was worth a share. I would have had way more respect for the guy had he been honest and not bragged but nope. Oh I do wonder how many people he tricked into thinking it was a real R32...
my old mk4 golf had rear discs same engine as his
Thanks for sharing. That's hilarious 😂
I would love to own an R34, as the case with many people. But the prices are too high now, I just stick with my MK4 and FD and be content with having those two.
You can try get the GT/25GT model...but they are kinda expensive for what are they...and most of them are 4door auto. Imho GT coupe with 5speed is one of the rarest R34...(rare no expensive or fast) :-D
YOU ALREADY HAVE 2 VERY RARE AND WANTE CARS BE HAPPY
Liked that he used the ppl in 335s re badging to M3s as an example because I see that way more often😭
there was a fun article i read years ago where the author was talking about this exact thing, how so many people were adding M3/5 badges to non M BMWs and how some were done quite convincingly and some lets say not so much. He then went to say how, seeing how cheap and easy these badges were to come by how the owner of an E39 518i he was alongside in traffic, had gone through all the trouble of an extremely well done M5 conversion but had neglected to replace the badge on the back. 5 minutes later he remembered BMW had dropped the 518i model for the E39.....
I got my gtt with a gtr conversions (rear quarters from a gtr and authentic gtr front down to headlights) . I’m not trying to fool anyone. If they ask then it is a gtt period. It’s the emotion i feel when I go into my garage at 7am, I cannot afford a gtr. My car isn’t technically legal in the us federally lol but I do have a state title. It’s a 40k risk that I take to fullfill a dream. Stupid? Absolutely worth it? In the long run probably not. But the amount of kids and younger enthusiasts days that I make including mine is so worth it. I’m 22 and have zero regrets. Come get me Uncle Sam (:
100% spot on man, exactly the reason I’m building mine the way I am.
And if Uncle Sam wanna take it just ship it to the Netherlands.
Worked at a business that imported in SoCal, mostly we’d do Kei-Segment, Passenger cars, utility vehicles, et cetera, but occasionally we’d get some hypebeast vapester who’d come in wanting a “Skyline” and then promptly throw a fit upon receiving the vehicle because he didn’t know that a skyline is just a midsize passenger car, GT-T is a touring car homologation special performance package.
man, for once i wish I lived in california, would've loved to get one of those kei cars off you lads
After seeing those costs, I'll stick a GTR badge on my *Altima* , thanks.
I mean all you really gotta do is just mention that, “Yeah its a GTT, but its modded to be a GTR” I mean as long as the GTT was modded to a near perfect replica to a GTR then there should be no issue mentioning its former self. Just dont lie that you bought a GTR straight up.
I agree, it's just like those Skyline GT-R R34 owner who convert the looks into Skyline GT-R Nur, CRS and even Z-Tune R34
as long as they don't lie or even taking advantage fooling others by claiming it's real CRS or Nur or Z-Tune then I see no problem
Same things with 435i and M4, C350 and C63 AMG, RC200T and RC-F, 458 and Speciale, Corvette C8 and Z06, and so many more examples
At least it's an R34
I see plenty of GT-T with GT-R badges on cars and as much as I want a R33 I can't be caught with a fake R
Its still a skyline.
That’s like comparing a ZL1 ILE camaro to a 1992 rs with a 305 automatic 4 speed
I would spend extra cash on making my GTT super fast (even faster than a stock GTR). and rock it proudly.
@GangBalls69_Estonia I know but in the context of faking a Skyline spec for another is lam why not be proud of what you got.
@GangBalls69_Estonia I think you're saying the same as what I'm saying. In other words, just be proud of what you drive.
@GangBalls69_Estonia A boosted D16 civic stands no chance assuming it has 250~hp, until 180km/h that is...... these damned speed restrictors man
I personally don't have an issue with people building GT-R replicas (If done properly by using genuine panels such as quarter panels, bonnet etc) and, horror of all horrors I don't particularly mind them having the GT-R badge (again, if done properly). To me at least, it becomes a problem when that person goes around telling people it's a real GT-R. I'd have much more respect for the person grounded enough to be truthful about it, whilst showing the work done to make it what it has become.
I find it sad that the ER34 GT-T has always been treated as a base for a GT-R replica, because they are still a great car in their own right. Also what many fail to realise, is the ER34 GT-T has a different floor pan to the BNR34 GT-R as it is RWD not AWD. The 2dr ENR34 GT-Four on the other hand, has the same floor pan with the GT-R as it is also AWD, meaning it easier to create a GT-R replica with GT-R running gear, and also provides the more authentic driving experience. The GT-Four is N/A only and the majority are the 4dr model, so the 2dr coupe models are pretty rare. If someone absolutely had to build a replica, this is the chassis to use.
I’ve seen people turn the 4’s into 2 doors on those
*My ideal Skyline, besides a GTR, is a GTT with the GTR bodykit, but replace the GTR badges with GTT badges. That way I can enjoy the look of the GTR with the heart of the GTT.*
i hate people that think they have a legit gtr KNOWING that they dont
Its absurd that GTT is considered reasonable price at 35-50k USD. I remember these things were like 8K AUD. 35-50 was GTR money
I'm actually doing a r34 gtt to r34 build now but I would never put a gtr emblem anyways the rb25 is very underated engine Im running 400 kw atw
Kid: Mom, can we have a GT-R?
Mom: We already have a GT-R at home, dear.
The GT-R at home:
Not to mention all of the chassis bracing, wheelbase is slightly longer on the gtr (anyone with GTR guards on a GTT will see)
I'm probably in the minority but I'd much rather have an ER34 GT-t 4 door than a GT-R. The GT-R is legendary and all that. But I want turbo whistle with the practicality of a sedan.
If they were the same price yeah, bet lets be honest if you were offered one for free it would be a gtr
Just buy a Focus RS
The GTT is the customisation drift car, a GTR Kit with a custom street look with some decals is perfect for the GTT. I just wouldn’t slap a GTR logo on it or even bother with the interior. I would rather have no logo. And go all in on the custom 00’s streetracing look and with some crazy tunes. I would not want to do something like that to the GTR which is more of a collectors show car at this point.
a good sample of this kind of conversion is from an austrailian car youtuber named BROKEN SILVIA it was a GTT but he converted it into a GTR... and it really amazed me on how it was built...
I'm still in the process, lots of labor of love at the moment, swapping mostly everything from an EvoX into my 2013 Lancer GT Sport Wagon. All the time people tell me "hey man, nice Evo!" I tell them in return, "look again please because, it's not an Evo." I bought custom GT badges that seem like would come with the GT trim level. Nowhere on my car will you ever find anything labeled "Evolution." I'm dedicated and proud of what I am currently building.
You can buy a gtt badge in the form of a gtr badge, that should people be doing
I really want a 4 door R34. More than a GTR somehow.