600 Horsepower Big Block Chevy Buildup!
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Hey Taylor! I watch this build series probably once a week. I have a 70 Elk myself with a 468 BBC and have been working on it for a few months now. Swapped the 4 speed for a 5 speed Tremec TKX, put a McLeod RXT in it, had the 12 bolt pro built with 410 gears, and just got some AFR 265 heads to start rebuilding the top end of the motor. I currently run 990 heads with an LS6 intake and a fairly mild COMP CAM. The AFR's should give me a huge jump in power everywhere. Putting an Air gap intake on it as well. I have an 800 but am thinking about a 950 quickfuel to throw on it. Anyway, thanks for the inspiration. Guys like you who take the time to film their build push me and inspire me to do work myself I wouldn't have thought I could do on my own. All the work stated above I did on my own, and I am just a high school grad with zero experience. You are an inspiration to the young weekend wrench armatures like myself. Educating the masses! lol you rock and this car rocks too.
Glad you got your dream big block.
Awesome looking El Camino.
Bless you for installing the freeze plugs after paint. It's so nice to see that zinc dichromate shine through.
Nor freeze plugs...
Beautiful build, reminds me of me back in 82,' very nice work!
Nice El Camino, I like the color. Get it to the track when yer done, and report back!
Beautiful car and Big Block!
Great vid. I know it’s old. But those blue intake gaskets are not recommended for aluminum to aluminum. The paper grey crush and seal better. Great vid!
You got her looking better than most it looks great
Good job, dude. Keep it up.
Nice video. With a hydraulic roller cam in a big block, if you used standard hydraulic roller lifters and the springs that came with the kit, you'll hit a wall power wise around 5700-5800 rpm. If you want to pull power to 6500 you need the race style limited travel lifters and much stiffer valve springs. Running a solid lifter in my big block, with 210lbs on the seat and 520lbs over the nose, it would float the valves at 6200rpm. I now run 260lbs on the seat and 600lbs over the nose and added titanium retainers to rev it to 7000rpm.
For future reference, never use those end gaskets on the intake, toss them put a solid bead of rtv...set intake in place align holes wait 3 hours then bolt down.
Looks Good
Just use the RTV withOUT the intake end rail gaskets.
Badass bro
Love big block Chevy's I am proud owner of 454 in a1995 suburban
Nice job , engine looks great ,loose those gaskets on China wall just rtv they leak
I sure wish I would have held onto my 1970 Chevell SS 396. It was my first car also.
That's NICE RIDE MY MAN!! What heads are those, they appeared to be ProComps. LMK how they perform I was looking at buying some but hadn't seen any good threads/remarks on them. Keep it ☝
10:44 looking at that new carburetor, the fuel bowl vents are very tall. Make sure, your air cleaner lid does not block off the vents. Best if the vent tubes are cut St a 45° angle.
I usually myself like to use a spread bore carburetor that’s where the back butterflies are bigger than the front, kick right off the line secondary vac has to build up some vacuum around ten to fifteen miles an hour
Or a mechanical secondary carburetor lawson862011! 👍 I never liked the vacuum secondary carburetors on a high performance engine! Low vacuum problems!
so you were impressed with the port work lol Sheeeeeeeeeeee
Drive ability will be better with the 750. Good set-up! Nice ride.
Do to the flex on a bbc aluminum heads i always run a stud girdle . mainly if over 600 lift.
Definitely!!!!
Shit I'm gonna run them in my 302. Just cause rpm...a voodoo 268 is big to a 10:1 302. Can't wait.
@@bigboreracing356
I run a girdle for cheap insurance on a big block chevy because of the angles the rockers set and having longer studs for roller rockers increases stress on stud . i would rather spend 250 to 300 dollars for piece of mind. All bbc have screw in studs . i have seen rocker studs walk out of a head as well as pressed in studs on sbc . all depends on surrounding parts and how they were installed . kind of a personal preference state of mind thing. I have girdles so i use them.
@@bigboreracing356 You guys know your shit very well. I think that's a case of what works for you guys, the studs or the girdle - long as whatever for both of you guys and doesn't rip shit apart of the valve train. And that's a damn pretty sweet camshaft, glad to hear that works without any issues. Keep the horses comin' guys! Cheers
I hope you had it balanced for longevity?? What gears do you have in it? Going to need some GOOD motor mounts
awesome did they do an awesome balance with the new pistons?
People would enjoy this more if you gave more technical information. What cam is it and the specs, what heads are they ?? Where they CC'd and what did the flow, if you have that info too. Great video.
They look like Pro Comp cylinder heads but nothing wrong with that as long as everything gets checked before installing them. If I purchased Pro comps I would swap out their valve train and install quality valves,springs,keepers and retainers on them and you are good to go.
Plus they ship them out leaking like a sieve
Bazooka Joe OR EDELBROCK HEADS.
i used a set of them pro comp heads few years back on a windsor ford and the geometry was all over the place never again will i use that chino stuff on my 454
Nice El Camino, I always liked those...especially the '68 and '69, those were dirt cheap when I was in high school early eighties. That engine should be around 575 horse, single plane manifold would get you closer to 600.
Holly Torquer. Had one in my jet boat in early 80's. 6,500RPM all day long, no roller rockers, no roller cam, no stud girdle, but that is a problem area. 20 foot jet boat, pull up 7 slalom skiers without noticing. Torquer is a single plane high rise but should fit under the hood. Edelbrook and Weiand have a version too, like this: www.summitracing.com/parts/wnd-7530wnd?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKCAjw29vsBRAuEiwA9s-0B7nSI_CPNEgN6GOCLUvpIA033x_Ppc39kxSOTFFuyky01WnOVkpjlRoCjjgQAvD_BwE
Good for about 2000-7000RPM. Coincidentally I towed the jet boat with a 70 El Camino, loved that car, it was a small block though. Fun Times.
@@x-man5056 I almost bought a gm before my fox zephyr but you know what's a crazy dual plane?
A weiand dual plane for big block rectangle ports. MF has ports that match a 300+ cc square port lol people talk about in forums. That will definitely get 6500 at 10.5:1
@@KingJT80 I had the square port heads on my boat. I heard a lot of back and forth about which style flowed better but at the time I had all the go fast I could keep gas in. I'd used about 18 gallons on an average day of skiing and fun runs.
I could put my fingers in the intake ports diagonally to the second knuckle. The lighter weight of the aluminum heads would have been nice in the boat but if I was going to add horsepower, I would have just bumped the cam up. Which brings us right back to the gas issue.
It could have used roller rockers and a stud girdle though. Those Rat motors were hard on valve guides and push rods, particularly when they bounce air born briefly. Some of the crew I ran with had 18 foot sprint boats so unlikely I was going to beat them anyway and to be honest, the ladies, were a bit scared of the smaller boats and I liked to ski so it was a self limiting situation that worked in my favor.
Those were fun days.
@@x-man5056 sounds like fun times!
Great car! Did you use silicone with your one piece oil pan gasket?
You mentioned the 4l80e. How did you control it and how did you drive the speedometer?
in the gathering info stage on what parts to do similar build to my 90 SS 454 truck , sort of torn on the single plane intake or dual, hmmm, depends on the cam I guess, we'll see.
Good video best of luck
Use a dual plane if your running a stock converter. Single plane with a stall or a stick
need a paint that looks like alum try rustolem gloss aluminium my friend needed a magnet to prove it was steel it's that good i love it
Just north of 500 ponies maybe 500. I have built a few 468s. Similar build
Cool build. What heads are those?
2 obvious things right off the bat
There are more, I just don't want to nit pick.
1. Throw the rubber gaskets at the front and back of the intake in the trash. They have caused more oil leaks over the years than they have stopped.
2. Oil will NOT run out of the oil filter boss unless you turn the engine over with the distributor in place. You really need to prime the engine oiling system before starting the engine. Then you will have to have the oil filter on. I take the filter off when installing the engine to keep from damaging it while lining the engine up.
Other than these 2 items, I think the build was okay.
10.1? I guess everyone has there own ideal compression. Nice build can't wait to get mine going..Motivating!
You can get away with more compression with aluminum heads. It is still a 92/93 octane motor with that compression
There's more to compression than just a number to pick. There's local gas quality, aluminum heads help, and there's chamber design ("fast burn", etc). even spark plug temp range can have a factor, along with altitude above sea level.
I just put a 454 on my 72 El Camino what exhaust system do you have?
what control arms did u run ive got a 69 elco also but im curious
I sure hope you tore those pro comp heads down and had the guides clearanced before installing.
They were just bare castings that I had built and ported by my local speed shop. None of the Chinese junk on them.
How did you measure for push rods? mid lift method?
I swear this “guy” is wearing lipstick
looks like it
Keep your homoerotic fantasies to yourselves. This is not that type of channel. Pervs.
Lmao Fr
ok got the cam specs.
What brand is your lift how much and where did you get it
No not the rubber gaskets !!!
Amazing Scott how there are still ALOT of people who still use those!!!!🤔🙄😳
Scott Shields mine leaked like Niagara Falls . Blue silicone type junks . Next set cork and I’m safety wiring all the header and intake bolts . 2nd time mine intakes leaked from vibrating on the solid mounts
No rubbers quarter inch bead silicone
What gears do u have?
What are the cam specs, thanks.
A bore and stroke might be nice...
Why do you run 20-50 oil? Thanks.
What heads do you have
Cam is made for rectangular port heads, it can’t pull in enough air with those little baby intake ports lol
wrong those are over 300 cfm!
And they're barely ported
Could have got a lot more horsepower out of that thing with a better Port job
This has been proven wrong since 96 and later. The recs work well above 5500 rpm but below that ovals work them over left and right.
You know nothing about port velocity!!!
Adding compression isn't something to be just done because....you need to match your camshaft duration and overlap with it.
It is time to upgrade your brakes.
Cam button with a steel cover?
What’s the part # for the lunati camshaft you chose?
Clint Bible the part number for the kit I bought was 20110550LK
What type of timing curve did you en d up with initial and total?
Not a lot of specifics. Heads look like Pro Comps. If they are I hope you double checked the geometry.
Clean build but, 600 HP is speculative.
Wow , let's just bore max on block that did not needed, could have fly cut pistons cheaper, but hay let's throw away money. And no mockup parts to pre fit,. I am like why is this on my time line. I would have check piston to valve clearance, for cam before. Some clay an a spin your done, and get a block and a houseing of the trains your using to get the shaft length, so it is there to put together. But I will say it is not slam together and see if it works.
Don't use RTV and Gasket both RTV don't sick to Plastic gaskets
I don’t know anyone who uses those gaskets on the ends of the block
At about a minute>>>duration will not normally cause valve interference, LIFT will. Either one that is changed will require the need to check this. Normally when I would build an engine I would assemble and dis assemble it about 5-6 times. Check, Check and check again. you will NOT be sorry.
Gene Martin max lift occurs when the piston is all the way down in the cylinder. Duration, along with lobe separation angle create that overlap period where the piston COULD come into contact with the valves. We confirmed tolerances at the machine shop before my assembly in this video.
600hp 454 with oval ports and a hyd roller?
It's possible but, I don't know if it can be done with those heads.
Don't run 20w50. Use DRIVEN 10w40 HR5 oil
a 750 on a dual plane manifold is like having a 375cfm carb on a single plane manifold. You can easily step up to a 1450 dominator. help you get to 600 bhp.
No way I would bore my block .060 just because the pistons are back ordered.
You said duration when you meant lift. Did you check your pushrod length- to go with your roller cam and your lifters? Don't forget red line break in additive- you need to add the zinc.
Both affect.
Lip stick ,really, not interested in that, silicone is the way to install the intake, thanks BigAl California.
I didn’t know duration caused valves to hit pistons
Yes, because the valves stay at a certain position longer 💪
Oh yeah!!!! Put that filter on before you put oil in to prevent a big oil leak????
Are you priming the engine while you are putting oil in? The oil cannot make it to the filter without the engine running or you prime the engine.
60 over 454 is 466 nice ride
Core plugs, not Freeze plugs.
Yes sir or mechanical but I’m old school and new school...
What Big Block Chevy is it. Is it a 454.
He 454
Is it a stock crank?
It better be a steel crank if it's stock Terrell!!
Hydraulic cam? Wheres the 600 horses coming from? Sounds closer to 540 horses
What brand and specs on the cam please? .050s, advertised duration, LCA, valve lift?
@@w41duvernay He said all that.
Guess you have some to learn about cams.
@@user-ge2qn6gp4o teach me then? lol. my 427 makes a lot more power than that
No way 600 hp with those peanut port heads!! And it’s going to leak oil after it blows out those rubber intake seals
those are oval port heads not peanut ports!! you cant buy aluminum heads in peanut port!!!
It won't blow them out suck them. In for an oil leak from hell
Yes Steven! Live & learn!! I stopped use those intake end gaskets eons ago!!!!
@@glennmanchester1568 amen Glenn!👍
@@shuckarelli lol
runing with 20-50 oil is a bad idea. It takes too long for the oil pressure to build when the engine has been setting over night.
joe it has 65 pounds cold immediately when started running the 20w50
@@TaylorSmithAutomotiveChannel Ok that's fine, I live in Canada so my mornings are cooler. Also with the 3/4 turn after 0 lash you might get valve float at the higher rpm level especially with the heavy bbc valve train.
2:24 are you wearing....lipstick?:
He kissed his engine good night after painting it.
I think an 850 c.f.m is more than adequate!! People always want to OVER carborate these motors with big c.f.m. carbs!!! 850 c.f.m double pumper is what's feeding my rectangle port 468 cu. In. Big block & it dyno at 510 h.p.! More is NOT better! And run a stud girdle too!!!!
You don’t know what your talking about Sam, did you dyno back to back with a 950 or 1050 carb as well?.. bet you didn’t. My big block made better power and torque with 1050 over a 950 and it would have made less again with an 850.
So, you put 7000 or so miles on it in 5 years, then bore & rebuild it with no miles on it. You do maybe 1500 miles per year......Sell it to someone who might actually use it!
Get new valve covers and dump those spacers, looks terrible
600 hp build that is nothing out of a bbc my stock 454 puts out 450 and if it is nyno tuned they put out 500 hp with stock carb and intake now ur going to get mad all my friends do i get these ho 454 crate engines comes with 4 inch stroke steel crank heavy rods heavy push rods 450 hp at 485 torque with a heavy duty 400 turbo were it has the bigger pump heavy clutches stage 1 shift kit with everything to put it in with even the radiators for free the last one i got only had 6000 miles on the engines runs perfect the other one i have sitting has 38,000 miles on it just the long block new is 8000 bucks i get these all the time and i know what has them plus i can sell the leftovers for 2000 bucks with out engine and trans my little secret plus i get the paperwork on the engine and rig i built a 68 chevy short box and only have 300 bucks in it and it is all painted restored but the final paint and interior which i have all the nobs and dash stuff but gauges right now it has close to 800 hp i have been offerd 12,000 for the truck as it sits unfinished iget rigs cheap too if not for free next project is a 79 z28 rs t top looking for a 69 rs project have a new version ls 7 that i have that needs rebuilt for it just need to find the right car it will come
Are you wearing lipstick and if so why??
I was thinking the same thing... had to sweep the comments to see if anyone thought that.
You had my respect until you said crank scraper. Sound like you been watching hp tv.
Nothing wrong with running a crank scraper. The more oil you can keep in the oil pan and out of the rotating mass, the more oil there is available to the pump pickup. It probably doesn't free up a lot of power (why most folks run a scraper), but if you like turning corners hard, running a scraper and a good windage tray can make the difference between a happy, well lubricated engine or starved bearings in a wet sump engine.
@@1965l88 Windage tray yes but a Crank scraper is a BF joke. Any oil on the crank would be slung off. Have you ever heard of an oil slinger? It throw oil onto other parts.
sorry to tell you they work pal ,I spent time in the 80s on a Dino
@@danstomber1664 You are lying your a$$ off so bad you even spell dyno wrong. Some stock engines come with windage trays (my 96 Tahoe) but none come with crankshaft scrapers. Any oil on the crank is going to be slung off.
@@blackericdenice O Shit its the village idiot how have you been Cybil
With that much Bore & Compression it is Insufficient exhaust valves, Insufficient Carbeurator...
What cam is in this bad boy?