One of the best memories I have with my Dad is me and him in the shed making scenery for the Warhammer games I hosted with my friends as a kid (we had a long dining room table so I was defacto host). We built a small Mordheim ghetto, a 40K jungle camp and a full blown snow themed wargaming table featuring a village post Dark Eldar raid. Still got all the pieces in my loft.
That's awesome! I made a bunch of scenery as a kid but don't have any of it any more. I am making some scenery to use for my games slowly (and cack-handedly!) in videos on the channel.
I found the townscape book in a charity shop about 12 years ago fo £4.99. “The book contains building previously contained in the warhammer supplements: McDeath, Terror of the lichmaster, blood on the streets, Bloodbath at orcs drift.” It’s missing the first 3 pages (2 buildings) but 36 buildings for £4.99 is not to be sniffed at. Also being card you don’t worry about them going missing or breaking like a plastic kit. I left the 4 or so i built on the table in our very public local gaming shop for a year or so with out worrying about them in the least. (I’d scanned the pages I wanted before sticking them to cardstock, I couldn’t bring myself to cut in to originals).
I have a PDF of the Townscapes book and Grudge of Drong and what I did was glue the images down to some foam core sheets and then cut out the individual panels and hot glued them all together. Doing so makes them more rigid and sturdy and far less likely to get crushed. I also bought 3 CD's called Vyllage On The Cheep which included 2 discs for the town buildings and another disc called Dirt Cheep Keeps which included a full castle and a ruined castle. The nice part of having them on a PDF is that you can scale the buildings up and down. I reduced the Inn and printed it off in model railroad HO scale. The cardboard scenery does photograph well. Good for backgrounds. Thank you for showing those plastic doorways and windows. I have some from someone giving them to me and i always wondered what they were all about and where they were from. Orc village out there in the wild....that's a Dad joke, isn't it? :D
What's the point of being a hobby dad if you can't do dad jokes??? The foam core is a good idea, I have a print out of the Grudge of Drong scenery so might try giving that a go!
I am absolutely in love with the realm of battle tiles, I am so sad I never got to pick one up. That astronomer's tower has been my absolute dream to own one day,
nice vid! What you called vacu-formed are resin-foam Terrain Pieces made by Ziterdes (Noch) for GW. You missed mention the small cottage, the tavern and the townhouse they made and for 40k they also made Models like the wrecked Chimera, the Bunkers, Trench and a lot more! Ziterdes continued to make this kind of terrain like whole cities and hills etc till Noch closed the Ziterdes-Department last year....so sad
@@90percentgeek watching your content makes me realize that I'm coming into this hobby way too late. I missed all the best stuff. That's why I'll be printing my own Epic scale 40k minis and terrain, because Epic has to be the most amazing concept and beautiful armies I have ever seen. I saw someone's modern Night Lords army done on Epic scale resin. It was the most charming thing you could imagine, and had so many things on the field.
@@EddyOfTheMaelstrom do you have a link to the Epic Night Lords? I love Epic so much (as I often enthuse in my other videos) and want to do a video with my old epic stuff at some point. I'd love to do an Epic Tyranid army painted the same as my 40K ones but it's just a case of finding a decent 3D printed version (or GW re-releasing the classic ones!!) One of the things that's nice about the old games is a lot of the rules are still out there, and as long as you can find an opponent there's nothing to stop you from still playing them.
Yay! Glad you enjoy it. My presenting style can probably be described as Chaotic Good!! Check out my other videos if you enjoyed this one and thanks for the nice comment 😊
I missed the town expansion box, but I was around for all the others. Thanks for the memories. I still have all of these in crates in my workshop somewhere. I stopped playing and building terrain around the plastic mannor house period - so that would have been 7th ed? I also have a plastic set to paint up at some point. New subscriber here, so lets see what your other videos are like.
Great video dude! Just scored NIB arcane ruins for a decent price can't wait to paint it up. Just wish I could find a temple of skulls set that's not ridiculously priced. The OOP plastic terrian kits are so cool.
I pondered mentioning Battlemasters in this but decided it wasn't exactly Warhammer fantasy so left it out. Likewise Warhammer Quest, though that only had the archways.
To a certain extent, the cardstock terrain lives on with the many companies producing MDF terrain kits. Ones that can be packed flat when sold, but can be assembled into full pieces. Sturdier, too.
Our gaming club had a tonne of mdf scenery and replaced it all with plastic stuff which in some respects is a bit of a shame. I keep flirting with the idea of getting some mdf wild west scenery as I have a really good wild west minis game I want to try playing at some point.
@@90percentgeek No. This was sometime in the late 90s, I recall some fantasy buildings and some Eldar monolith; sometime after the time they issued patterns to cut cereal boxes into parts for a 40k outpost. 1998 or so?
Some "cardboard" terrain these days like the Corvus Belli terrain they use now seems like it'd be a great modern approach to this. Surprised GW haven't used it for Old World stuff yet because compared to the plastic terrain the design and production is a bit cheaper. Sure, plastic allows more details and options but for simpler blocky buildings and such that'd be fine.
Woah I had forgotten the dwarf hold. I remember them using it in one of the 6th Ed Fantasy battle reports... Going to see if I can work out which one that was.
Wish they would bring back all their old world plastic buildings and scenery. AOS scenery is cool and all, but the old stuff was more along the "Fantasy" I was use to.
I am hopeful, some of the pictures they have been showing of upcoming releases for TOW have shown images of the plastic scenery, which hopefully means that's getting re-released too!
@@90percentgeek But did you find that a lot of those old scenery pieces, especially the corners, don't really line up without some work? - I also had issues with the tower floors to the tower walls. I wish they made deeper tabs or some kind of interlock there.
@@monsterhobbiesageofsigmar I actually had no problem with mine. I've got a tower, chapel and coaching inn and they all went together quite nicely, the join on the coaching inn was the only really awkward bit.
The one thing I hate about GW is that they come out with something cool, like scenery...give you rules on how to use the scenery for your games...then instantly dumps them for something else. It drives me crazy!
@@90percentgeek The tower, manor, shrine, and a few of the others. Modular hill used to be nice as well. Most of them were good for Empire stuff, but generic enough to fit most places and even sold decently for other games...I remember a lot of WarMachine/Hordes tables that used them as well. (Same with the cloth backed grass mat they had which also got pulled).
I am honestly very surprised they don't do their own range of battlemats. They have them at Warhammer World on the tables so it wouldn't be much of a stretch to start selling them, even if it was an online only thing.
@@90percentgeek They have the hard board game board type ones that might be more of tiles, I've seen those at local shops being used that were in some of the sets for 40k and AoS
You need some paper clips and baby bulldog clips for while the glue dries. Also handy for the card scenery is some appropriate colored good artist quality color pencils to hide the white edges at a push an ordinary pencil will do. Quoins to strengthen the corners of the tower are easy enough to do in card. Some old 1or 2oz weights might also be a handy thing to have for making card buildings It doesn't take much to toughen up and improve the card scenery that came in the games etc, sure I still have some Bretonian tents somewhere. Sorry but the new Age of Sigmar just doesn't appeal figures just look to weird for my tastes I like the original fantasy battles game not sure which edition I started with, but it had Bretonians and Lizard men in the game box I got😃 I still prefer to make my own terrain. but will buy the odd nice manufactured piece if I see one.
@@90percentgeek I like Grudge of Drong and Idol of Gork the most.. But kidna need to re-read the other ones.. You should play them and post reports? ;)
@@ja37d-34 that's my eventual plan. Willard who is in my Tale of Four Gamers has a High Elf army and I have a Dwarf army so we're going to play Grudge of Drong at some point. Then Bobbie from Arbitor Ian's channel and I are going to play Circle of Blood. Longer term I'd love to do the other ones but I will need to either bulk out my Orc and Goblin army or get an Empire army.
@@90percentgeek Sounds real cool. :) Looking forward to it! I was reading the stuff in WD at the time but played 40k, still great memories.. :) They were great releases.
One of the best memories I have with my Dad is me and him in the shed making scenery for the Warhammer games I hosted with my friends as a kid (we had a long dining room table so I was defacto host).
We built a small Mordheim ghetto, a 40K jungle camp and a full blown snow themed wargaming table featuring a village post Dark Eldar raid.
Still got all the pieces in my loft.
That's awesome! I made a bunch of scenery as a kid but don't have any of it any more. I am making some scenery to use for my games slowly (and cack-handedly!) in videos on the channel.
I found the townscape book in a charity shop about 12 years ago fo £4.99. “The book contains building previously contained in the warhammer supplements: McDeath, Terror of the lichmaster, blood on the streets, Bloodbath at orcs drift.” It’s missing the first 3 pages (2 buildings) but 36 buildings for £4.99 is not to be sniffed at. Also being card you don’t worry about them going missing or breaking like a plastic kit. I left the 4 or so i built on the table in our very public local gaming shop for a year or so with out worrying about them in the least. (I’d scanned the pages I wanted before sticking them to cardstock, I couldn’t bring myself to cut in to originals).
That's a hell of a find! I like to poke around in charity shops on the off chance of finding some buried treasure like that!
@@90percentgeek I should really digitise them but I'm not sure what I'd do with them once I'd done that.
May you share those scans?
I have a PDF of the Townscapes book and Grudge of Drong and what I did was glue the images down to some foam core sheets and then cut out the individual panels and hot glued them all together. Doing so makes them more rigid and sturdy and far less likely to get crushed. I also bought 3 CD's called Vyllage On The Cheep which included 2 discs for the town buildings and another disc called Dirt Cheep Keeps which included a full castle and a ruined castle.
The nice part of having them on a PDF is that you can scale the buildings up and down. I reduced the Inn and printed it off in model railroad HO scale.
The cardboard scenery does photograph well. Good for backgrounds.
Thank you for showing those plastic doorways and windows. I have some from someone giving them to me and i always wondered what they were all about and where they were from.
Orc village out there in the wild....that's a Dad joke, isn't it? :D
What's the point of being a hobby dad if you can't do dad jokes???
The foam core is a good idea, I have a print out of the Grudge of Drong scenery so might try giving that a go!
I am absolutely in love with the realm of battle tiles, I am so sad I never got to pick one up. That astronomer's tower has been my absolute dream to own one day,
I'm praying it gets rereleased with TOW as well as things like the modular corner hills.
@@90percentgeek that bretonian reveal has me a little nervous with the art direction but here's to hoping!
You my good sir, bring us back to the golden age of Warhammer.
Fantastic vid bought back so many memories. Oh nostalgia
I will always love this card terrain ❤
Me too, though as you may have noticed I am not that good at building it!
Ive been beuilding a retro inspired killteam board and this really helps give me inspiration! Thank you!
That's awesome! What are you thinking of putting on it?
Thanks for the history lesson
nice vid! What you called vacu-formed are resin-foam Terrain Pieces made by Ziterdes (Noch) for GW. You missed mention the small cottage, the tavern and the townhouse they made and for 40k they also made Models like the wrecked Chimera, the Bunkers, Trench and a lot more! Ziterdes continued to make this kind of terrain like whole cities and hills etc till Noch closed the Ziterdes-Department last year....so sad
That is really sad, I would have picked some up otherwise!!
Nowadays you can get five unpainted plastic walls, a cardboard mat, and terribly made rulebook, for over 200 dollars.
Interestingly the latest AoS box set does come with some card scenery but it's just a big square box like shape
@@90percentgeek watching your content makes me realize that I'm coming into this hobby way too late. I missed all the best stuff. That's why I'll be printing my own Epic scale 40k minis and terrain, because Epic has to be the most amazing concept and beautiful armies I have ever seen. I saw someone's modern Night Lords army done on Epic scale resin. It was the most charming thing you could imagine, and had so many things on the field.
@@EddyOfTheMaelstrom do you have a link to the Epic Night Lords? I love Epic so much (as I often enthuse in my other videos) and want to do a video with my old epic stuff at some point. I'd love to do an Epic Tyranid army painted the same as my 40K ones but it's just a case of finding a decent 3D printed version (or GW re-releasing the classic ones!!) One of the things that's nice about the old games is a lot of the rules are still out there, and as long as you can find an opponent there's nothing to stop you from still playing them.
@@90percentgeek they keep deleting my comment with the link lol...but I would imagine as the creator you can see deleted comments?
Weirdly they're not showing up for me either. Can I Google it?
Your presenting style is really engaging. This was my first video of yours I've watched. You've got a new subscriber :)
Yay! Glad you enjoy it. My presenting style can probably be described as Chaotic Good!! Check out my other videos if you enjoyed this one and thanks for the nice comment 😊
This was a really fun video! Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it! Check out some of my other videos, there's a load of daft stuff on there.
Card scenery started with the second edition scenario boxes starting with Blood Bath at Orcs Drift.
I missed the town expansion box, but I was around for all the others. Thanks for the memories.
I still have all of these in crates in my workshop somewhere. I stopped playing and building terrain around the plastic mannor house period - so that would have been 7th ed? I also have a plastic set to paint up at some point.
New subscriber here, so lets see what your other videos are like.
They're an eclectic mix but hopefully you'll find something else that you like.
I would love an entire Circle of Blood video.
It's definitely coming. I am also planning on some videos playing through the four Circle of Blood games once I have my Bretonnians finished.
Great video dude! Just scored NIB arcane ruins for a decent price can't wait to paint it up. Just wish I could find a temple of skulls set that's not ridiculously priced. The OOP plastic terrian kits are so cool.
Great stuff! I've just finished my 5th edition starter set and have been pining after these scenery for a few months. I must set up an ebay search!
Do you have any pictures of your finished painted starter set? Would love to see them.
My first bit of terrain was the battle master tower, then I got 4th edition box. Still have them in my collection
I pondered mentioning Battlemasters in this but decided it wasn't exactly Warhammer fantasy so left it out. Likewise Warhammer Quest, though that only had the archways.
Just found your channel, really liking your content. Thanks for the work.
Aw, thank you! Comments like this make my morning 😁
Doing a great job man, keep it up!
Thanks dude! Looking forward to filming the next one which will be something Battlefleet Gothic related...
Just found your channel and that vid was awesome!
Thanks dude! Glad you liked it. I want to do something similar with 40K and maybe a separate one for Mordheim or Gorkamorka!
If you don't mind giving me a subscribe you won't miss any other videos I do.
@@90percentgeek totally up for Mordheim or anything fantasy! 😁
@@90percentgeek oh I already did!
To a certain extent, the cardstock terrain lives on with the many companies producing MDF terrain kits. Ones that can be packed flat when sold, but can be assembled into full pieces. Sturdier, too.
Our gaming club had a tonne of mdf scenery and replaced it all with plastic stuff which in some respects is a bit of a shame. I keep flirting with the idea of getting some mdf wild west scenery as I have a really good wild west minis game I want to try playing at some point.
I'm sure I remember some cardboard Warhammer buildings in White Dwarf in the 4th edition days...
Really enjoyed this! Got my sub
Thanks! I just checked out your channel and subscribed. I'm definitely going to be watching some of your videos!
@@90percentgeek Thanks. I am hoping to get way more Warhammer back on it this year. Working on a few Dreadfleet videos at the mo.
The earliest buildings we had came as printed card, free in White Dwarf.
Do you remember which issue? I'll look them up!
@@90percentgeek No. This was sometime in the late 90s, I recall some fantasy buildings and some Eldar monolith; sometime after the time they issued patterns to cut cereal boxes into parts for a 40k outpost. 1998 or so?
@@thoughtengine ah! That's the card shrine, barricades and monolith I refer to in my building 40K video!
@@90percentgeek Having watched that vid, I now remember having those barricades too...
Some "cardboard" terrain these days like the Corvus Belli terrain they use now seems like it'd be a great modern approach to this. Surprised GW haven't used it for Old World stuff yet because compared to the plastic terrain the design and production is a bit cheaper. Sure, plastic allows more details and options but for simpler blocky buildings and such that'd be fine.
If they would release some more cardboard scenery, I would be a very happy man!
I wish there was an MDF version of those card pieces! ALSO - WHAT ABOUT MIGHTY FORTRESS! haha
*blinks* Did I forget the Mighty Fortress?? I'm a huge fan of Warhammer Seige, HOW DID I MISS THE MIGHTY FORTRESS???
@@90percentgeek Thats probably why you're only 90% geek haha Enjoyed the video - Keep them coming!
@@joshwrt2029 I'm going to have to do a whole separate video about the fortress sets and Warhammer Siege!
There was also the vacuum formed dwarf hold that was released alongside the 6e dwarfs army book and range in 2001.
Woah I had forgotten the dwarf hold. I remember them using it in one of the 6th Ed Fantasy battle reports... Going to see if I can work out which one that was.
@@90percentgeek It was the Karak Eight Peaks battle report in WD 253
@@username12120 beat me to it! Going to go and re-read that battle report now 😊
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Woot! The system works!
@@90percentgeek hell yeah!
Wish they would bring back all their old world plastic buildings and scenery. AOS scenery is cool and all, but the old stuff was more along the "Fantasy" I was use to.
I am hopeful, some of the pictures they have been showing of upcoming releases for TOW have shown images of the plastic scenery, which hopefully means that's getting re-released too!
@@90percentgeek But did you find that a lot of those old scenery pieces, especially the corners, don't really line up without some work? - I also had issues with the tower floors to the tower walls. I wish they made deeper tabs or some kind of interlock there.
@@monsterhobbiesageofsigmar I actually had no problem with mine. I've got a tower, chapel and coaching inn and they all went together quite nicely, the join on the coaching inn was the only really awkward bit.
@@90percentgeek That's good. I just remember some alignment issues with a few of my kits.
Save all those spare paper doors, windows and extras for your own creations.
Warhammer Townscape predates WHFB 4ed. It came out in 1988 which was early into 3rd Ed. A landmark product.
The one thing I hate about GW is that they come out with something cool, like scenery...give you rules on how to use the scenery for your games...then instantly dumps them for something else. It drives me crazy!
I really wish they'd kept their old scenery pieces as they'd still work well for a lot of things
Which ones in particular?
@@90percentgeek The tower, manor, shrine, and a few of the others. Modular hill used to be nice as well. Most of them were good for Empire stuff, but generic enough to fit most places and even sold decently for other games...I remember a lot of WarMachine/Hordes tables that used them as well. (Same with the cloth backed grass mat they had which also got pulled).
I am honestly very surprised they don't do their own range of battlemats. They have them at Warhammer World on the tables so it wouldn't be much of a stretch to start selling them, even if it was an online only thing.
@@90percentgeek They have the hard board game board type ones that might be more of tiles, I've seen those at local shops being used that were in some of the sets for 40k and AoS
You need some paper clips and baby bulldog clips for while the glue dries. Also handy for the card scenery is some appropriate colored good artist quality color pencils to hide the white edges at a push an ordinary pencil will do. Quoins to strengthen the corners of the tower are easy enough to do in card. Some old 1or 2oz weights might also be a handy thing to have for making card buildings
It doesn't take much to toughen up and improve the card scenery that came in the games etc, sure I still have some Bretonian tents somewhere. Sorry but the new Age of Sigmar just doesn't appeal figures just look to weird for my tastes I like the original fantasy battles game not sure which edition I started with, but it had Bretonians and Lizard men in the game box I got😃 I still prefer to make my own terrain. but will buy the odd nice manufactured piece if I see one.
Thanks for the tip! I'm doing another video with card scenery later today so will try it out!
Yeah those campaign sets were great!
I've got the Grudge of Drong stuff already high Res printed onto nice card stock, going to try and do the same for Circle or Blood!
@@90percentgeek I like Grudge of Drong and Idol of Gork the most.. But kidna need to re-read the other ones..
You should play them and post reports? ;)
@@ja37d-34 that's my eventual plan. Willard who is in my Tale of Four Gamers has a High Elf army and I have a Dwarf army so we're going to play Grudge of Drong at some point. Then Bobbie from Arbitor Ian's channel and I are going to play Circle of Blood. Longer term I'd love to do the other ones but I will need to either bulk out my Orc and Goblin army or get an Empire army.
@@90percentgeek Sounds real cool. :) Looking forward to it!
I was reading the stuff in WD at the time but played 40k, still great memories.. :)
They were great releases.