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@@darthcinema4262 She did receive a rapturous amount of praise for her role as Princess Diana in Spencer, to the point where she was nominated for Best Actress at various awards shows.
@@darthcinema4262 she's given some solid performances since this series ended. There was a movie called underwater ( Or something like that) that I thought she was better in than the material called for.
My favourite "Twilight actors vs Twilight" moment is when Anna Kendrick admitted on Twitter she forgot she was in Twilight and then live tweeted herself watching the movie for the first time
My wife alleges to this day that these movies are amazing and she loves them. And every time she begs me to watch them with her I have to remind her that I will be laughing nonstop from beginning to end.
Michael Sheen is up there with Tim Curry and Bruce Campbell, where they can be in the shittest piece of cinematic art, yet can always come out on the other side being the only piece of gold in a stank of a turd. They are like a holy Trinity.
The funniest thing about these movies to me is that Robert Pattinson was intentionally trying to be bad in these movies ‘cuz he genuinely hated them. He just willingly chose to not give a shit while being filmed, and the director never asked for another take. That’s just gold.
That was partly because Kristen was constantly being yelled at for showing emotion or reacting. He figured if the lead wasn't allowed to act, how the hell could he possibly act next to that? I think at that moment no one took it seriously.
Fun Fact about The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn: Part 2: To protect Mackenzie Foy on the set, Bill Condon had set up a swear jar where any cast and crew members caught swearing or uttering profanities were fined on the spot. The amount collected from the jar was donated to St. Jude's Children Hospital.
Chris Columbus did something similar on the set of the first Home Alone to protect Macualay Culkin. Allegedly, Joe Pesci single-handedly filled up the entire jar in one day.
The first movie is actually what broke me out of my twilight craze. I went to see it and was offended as a fan at how bad it was, went to reread the books to comfort myself, and suddenly I couldn’t figure out what I had found so enthralling about it in the first place.
Fun fact: in the Jacob carries Bella scene, they originally had a rig set up hold steward so Taylor wouldn’t have to carry her. But it didn’t look real so they asked him to carry her for the entire scene. Taylor, being buff and thinking nothing of it, said sure. One days shooting later taylors arms were so shot he couldn’t lift them to write his own name.
Got to love that one of the main conflicts of the series is that Bella is completely on board with becoming a vampire... but marriage may be too much of a commitment for her. To quote a far better vampire than any found in Twilight, "Is everyone here very stoned?"
I think the first movie describes the similarities between the two words Love and Lust to a degree that makes me uncomfortable. If they made the story based on the idea that Vampires have a difficult time grasping the difference between those two concepts than that would have made for a better film. But what we got was a protagonist that just goes along with it because she thinks love and lust are synonyms, yeah what a fucken disaster. Give that bitch a dicktionary...
Brian and Stewie discuss Breaking Dawn Battle scene: Brian: So, what you're saying is that what everyone experienced in Alice's vision didn't really happen, or even matter? Stewie: Yes, that's correct. Brian: So, it was sorta like a dream? Stewie: No, it was a vision of the future. Brian: Yes, but, theoretically, if someone watched the events of that vision from start to finish, only to find out that none of it really happened, I mean... you don't think, that would, j-- be just like a giant middle finger to them? Stewie: Well, hopefully, they would have enjoyed the ride. Brian: I don't know, man. I think you'd piss a lot of people off that way.
Fun Fact about The Twilight Saga: New Moon: During an argument between Bella and Edward in the truck outside her house, the Edward that got out of the truck was actually a double dressed like Robert Pattinson in the seat. Pattinson was actually positioned next to the camera but out of sight. After the double moved out, Pattinson stepped in front the camera. Chris Weitz pointed out that this was trick deliberately done to simulate how Edward moved in and out of the truck in an inhuman manner.
Actually, that is pretty neat. It shows a certain amount of effort and attention to detail that, quite frankly, you usually can't attribute to this franchise.
Sheen's laugh, in my opinion, is somewhat warranted. His character has lived centuries and seen many strange things. It would take something big to get a reaction. Meeting Renesmee--he is amazed and surprised at that experience to a point it sounds like laughter.
My guess on the "reasoning" behind Jacob imprinting on Renesmee is that the writer had built up the whole Team Edward vs. Team Jacob thing and didn't want to upset Team Jacob too much, so she gave him a Consolation Bella.
@@shinrailp1416I could be wrong, but that's the closest to sense I can make out of this. I also think Rowling admitting that she wished she had put Harry and Hermione together was to placate those shippers.
Actually the thing is even dumber… Meyer actually wrote the books out of order. Immediately after writing Twilight, which was her wish fulfillment fantasy from a dream she had, she wrote Forever Dawn. Forever Dawn had Jacob, the werewolves, and the Volturi, but they weren’t thought of as more than tools. I mean they already were tools, but Meyer didn’t think about them as a more than a love interest/babysitter for her wish fulfillment child, allies to protect the wish fulfillment child, and villains who would harm her, her preferred family, and her wish fulfillment child. Jacob in Forever Dawn is based on Jacob from Twilight, a guy who liked Bella but was never part of the love triangle, but was helpful enough to her that her daughter should get a supernatural boyfriend too. Forever Dawn would become parts 1 and 3 of Breaking Dawn with only a few mentions/references to the previously established characters and lore, but otherwise unchanged. Part 2 of the Breaking Dawn book was actually the last part of the series that she wrote. Honestly, I recommend you read Das Mervin’s review of the books. She goes through them chapter by chapter analyzing the the four books and what they did wrong and why they’re much worse than just sparkling vampires. There’s also a much worse version of the Renesmee/Jacob pairing. Meyer gave a crap reason in an attempt to make that pairing less creepy by saying that Renesmee was born with adult intelligence. It’s still shit, but there’s a werewolf who imprints on an actual human toddler. I specify human toddler because unlike Renesmee, a human toddler wasn’t born with “adult intelligence!” She is more likely being groomed by said werewolf and doesn’t have the false safety net of a bunch of vampires in her family wanting to protect her. Or the “adult intelligence” to give the false idea of “knowing and consenting”.
@@brentparker7359 f*** JK also I never understood that I thought Ron and Hermione worked the constant bickering felt less like actual argument half the time and more just like a lover's quarrel
This is something I will die on: I don't blame Kristen Stewart for her reactions in the movies. She was clearly written to be the awkward not like other girls archetype that's unfortunately written in a lot of early YA novels. It's still pretty common now too with Colleen Hoover books as well. She was doing what was written and honestly I kind of give it to her for poking fun at her bad acting a few years later.
Nah Bella was terrible because Kristin the lip biting and exhaling and wannabe awkward mannerisms didn’t translate well at all the actin got a lot of free range in the characterizations from what I heard so it’s not all directors and writers
I mean, to be fair, a lot of bella's personality is based on stephenie meyer (as she herself said) and bella viewed herself as a mediocrity, which explains why kristen portrayed her in a bland way
@@yelhsanosnhoj6602 She was literally yelled at when showed too much emotions on set, they wanted to bite her lip all the time and act like an emotionless piece of wood. That’s not her fault. I’ve seen her in other stuff, she’s a pretty descent actress.
Every time I hear that line, I always imagine when they were filming that moment, at the end of the take Kristen Stewart bursting into laughter like "What the hell did I just say?!"
I remember the Harry Potter-Twilight rivalry that arose from this franchise. At least Harry Potter has kept a strong lasting impression on its Fandom. Twilight is like an awkward teenage phase that sane people look back on and cringe at.
@@noahberg101 The only notable fanfiction Harry Potter spawned was My Immortal, which is a so-terrible-it’s-great piece of work. Internet Historian did a dramatic reading of it and it’s hilarious
Fun Fact: Peter Facinelli was the second choice to play Carlisle Cullen. When he found out that he lost out on the final round of auditions, he wrote a note to Catherine Hardwicke, saying, "I hope to work with you sometime." At the last minute before shooting, the original actor withdrew due to shooting conflicts. Hardwicke then offered the role to Facinelli, who immediately took it up. He had to bleach his hair blond before starting work.
Anybody realize that the dialogue Edward has towards Bella could apply to a pet? "I like to watch you sleep." "I feel protective of you." Dude, he abandoned her in the woods after dumping her!?!
The books, the movies, the entire craze of the 2000s and the 2010s, nothing brought as much brainless love or cynical hate quite like the Twilight saga!
One of the many things I was confused about in New Moon is Jacob cutting his hair off even though it’s established he and his family are Native Americans. Thought they don’t cut their hair.
As someone who hasn't seen the movies(only the first one) I'll give a compliment to the pregnancy and birth scenes from what I seen in clips: they're freaking well done! I'm astonished that the make up job and effects are so good for a turd like this!💩
That childbirth scene only makes me think of a quote from Roger Ebert’s review: “The most bloodcurdling scene of live childbirth I’ve seen in a PG-13 movie.” For someone who spent the majority of his life as the world’s most renowned film critic, that is weirdly impressive, especially considering this was in the last year of his life/career
TBH, I had no idea what imprinted meant as a kid, even now, I still didn't...until I asked my dad, and he said, "He practically marked her and is destined to be her soulmate." To which made me think...that's a fucking baby...
A better question would be why Stephanie Meyer wrote down that Jacob falls in love with a baby "No, you misunderstand; he falls in love with the 18-year old vision of-" STOP. Just shut up
the facetious veneer of pretending to like something ironically in place of evolving as a person is in fact very unironic for these times. I unironically think you were a cooler person as a teen when you just did what you genuinely enjoyed.
I remember watching Eclipse and going "Wait, there was a vampire out for revenge of those her killed her love. She manipulates a pack of troubled youths, stoking their bloodlust while offering compassion they haven't seen before before leading them to a suicide mission" and thinking they chose the wrong protagonist
You know, aside of the usual creepiness of a centuries-old guy falling for a teenager, a guy seeing an _newborn infant_ and going "oh yeah, can't wait till you'll turn 18" is somehow worse on so more epic level I can't really describe it.
As a man named Edward, these movies were the bane of my existence for a long time. Especially since I had friends who were obsessed with the books and movies. One friend even dragged me to see New Moon and Eclipse when they both came out. On the upside, I got to make fun of them while we watched so at least I had that.
I guess Fullmetal Alchemist(phenomenal show BTW. Especially the remake) wasn’t as popular as I thought (the main character in that was called Edward as well)!
Honestly, really wish this had been given the full Nostalgia Critic review treatment with the dressing up and skits and an episode for each movie. Soooo much material to work with in each film.
Something that still baffles me is how these films actually did managed to legit get one thing consistently great, the musical scores, which were often made by extremely talented composers such as Alexandre Desplat (The Shape of Water, Grand Budapest Hotel), Carter Burwell (Fargo, True Grit) and freaking Howard Shore fresh from his success in the Lord of the Rings trilogy
Never forget: When Michael Sheen once starred in the Underworld series, with him even returning to play the werewolf [Lycan] Lucian in its prequel the same year he started playing Aro in New Moon, the war in there started because he and his vampire girlfriend Sonja achieved the impossible: uniting the bloodlines to make a were-pire child whose existence particularly freaked out the vampire council. 🦇 NEVER will Sheen's major role reversal in these series cease to amuse me. 😆
I remember when the first movie came out, the book was already a hit, and everyone was talking how it was making an impact, how it was a story about vampires, and all my girl friends were absolutely in love with the main character. I immediately thought "Damn... I'm missing the next Dracula here!" And after watching It... I didn't even feel angry, just... Absolutely underwhelmed. My exact first words after It were "This...? This is what got people so riled up!?" I'm not gonna lie, I hated it so much I never mustered the corage, or stomach, to watch any of the rest
Honestly, I was about the same. I heard about it from the other gals in my class and how much they loved it. I was a HUGE fan but I remember not liking it, which is kinda weird XD Looking back, I may have just peer pressured myself into liking it to fit in with pop culture
To quote Kevin Murphy from Rifftrax in regards to Michael Sheen's laugh: "OK, there's no comment in the world that could make that funnier." Let it sink in, that this movie got so crazy, it even silenced those guys.
@@dreamlandnightmare Nostalgia Critic began 1 year earlier. Nostalgia Critic 1.0 ended at about the same time as the Twilight Saga. (When Doug tried to retire NC.)
Would've been better if he had just reviewed all the Twilight movies individually rather than just rushing through all of them so he can get back to reviewing children's movies.
I'm gonna pull out my "twilight girl" card here, but in New Moon it's not Edward's spirit it's Bella having literal hallucinations of Edward telling her not to do anything reckless. Which makes it all the more upsetting that she's doing all this crazy scary stuff because she wants to keep hallucinating him. Edit: Thank you for all the likes and comments. If you wanna more in depth analysis, go check out Dominic Nobles videos about the Twilight books and movies. He has an unbiased opinion about the books/movies and and how they progressively get worse overtime.
If your ever bored go watch cinema therapy Twilight and skip to the part where the film guy explains to the therapist that these vampires can't Astral project
Bella has absolutly no personality. She thinks she's nothing without Edward because i think she believe he is the only interesting person at the school? Or wtf is it? She even HAS friend she chooses not to socialize with and why? I get you are depressed after a breakup.. But really now? All the people around her cares but SHE dosen't. She ooooonly cares about Edward and why? Wtf are SO great about him? He lies, gaslights, and hurts her...but "eye candy" right?
The Twilight films released EXACTLY during my teen years, and they were the kind of bad phenomenon that the media loved parodying/tearing apart. Crazy to think the world had forgotten about them, their influence was everywhere back then.
“Why can’t you tell how perfectly happy I am” Why can’t you tell how perfectly delivered that line was. I mean she could have been being sarcastic but the fact that i couldn’t tell says a lot about this character.
If you find all the different versions of the Michael Sheen laughing scene, you will be my hero. That laugh brings me so much joy because of how odd it is. So hearing it is the most toned down version of the laugh makes me want to see what the ones they didn’t use were like. Also Team Mustache Dad for life because Charlie Swan was always perfect in the movies.
@@jbwarner8626 Maybe it was - "Voldemort's weird laugh and awkward Malfoy hug? We can top that! Get Michael Sheen in here and get him laughing right now!" 😆
I was born in 2004 and when I was 13 when I saw this I was like " this is a teenage romance story?" The only reason I like it is because of the design of the wolves. They looked so soft
Saw the last movie in theaters. Everyone cheered so loud during that fight, and as soon as it turned into a dream sequence, we all yelled in frustration. The entire audience united in their disappointment.
That scene was one of the strangest experiences I had in a movie theater you cud tell who red the 📖 by leasening the ghasping noices. In the books the valuturi, (those Italian vampire cultists) just where sufficiently intimidated and turn tail. That fight wasn't in the books, so imaging our surprise when characters start dropping like flies out of nowhere. I had no Idea what tha hell was going one I look at my friends who allso read it and where just as confused as I was, the look on our faces worth the ticket price alone😂 And yes it was a vision and may be disapointing for movie onlly but we got an action sceen that wasn't supposed to happen that allso makes sence to that world and didn't change the ending. The writers did the best they cud with what was given I applaud that.
@@Ballard258 yeah, the only good part in the movies is not in the books, my pet theory is, the ending was like, "Okay you poor boyfriends we made you sit through 5 shitty movies, here is something for you as a reward."
Having been a teenage girl when the twilight movies came out, watching them in theaters, was a real treat. The fact that all the girls collectively side when Jacob took his shirt off, and were screaming in horror when they saw Edward and his little bit of chest fuzz… That was amazing I was super sad that I didn’t see the third or fourth and fifth movies in theaters, but now I feel better ☺️
I actually ended up watching Twilight on the cinema with a friend from highschool when we had this favourite past time during weekends where we'd randomly select any movie to watch in our local cinema simply by browsing the synopsis displayed on the cinema's noticeboard. We knew nothing about the Twilight novel craze and the noticeboard basically only mentioned the movie having something to do with a modern world where humans and vampires co-exist together so we naturally thought it was going to be like Angel (TV series) as opposed to being a full-blown teen romance drama. Goes without saying, I fell asleep through certain parts of the film and when the credits started rolling after the two went to the prom, I was immediately surprised and thought, "Wait, that's all? So that underwhelming fight scene where the Cullens ganged up on that one vampire was already the third act?" Times passed, and I would find myself not being alone when I started actively browsing online and finding how many people ridiculed this movie and the franchise. I do however think Bella's dad is overall the best, coolest, and only reasonable character in the entire saga. I'd zealously watch/read a spinoff centers around him where he kicks vampires and werewolves' asses all the while being a mere human. Also, that uncanny CGI face on baby Nessie really, really doesn't age well these days.
I'm glad Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are leading successful careers after the _Twilight_ movies, but...man were these growing pains hard to get through. At least we know they both HATED being in them.
I was certain my sister would develop a crush on Edward and I'd have to suffer through that, instead she developed a crush on Marvel's Thor when we went to see his first movie. When I asked if she had a crush on him and she shyly said yes, I actually looked to the heavens and proclaimed, "OH, THANK GOD!", since she had better taste in fantasy men than Edward Cullen.
This series has some of the most toxic, un-sexy relationships I've ever seen. One the one hand, you have a stalker weirdo who wants to control everything Bella ever does, and on the other hand, you have a jacked up rage monster who gets all bent out of shape when Bella doesn't do what he wants. And to top it off, they're fighting over a girl who possesses less intelligence than a goldfish, the emotional range of a cinderblock, and is more clingy and dependent than a newborn baby. I look at this series, and I genuinely wonder just how many skeletons Stephanie Meyer has in her closet.
Oh, Meyer's is a crazy person. It seems to be a family trait. I went to school with her neice and nephew. The neice idolized her so much that she dressed up as female characters from the book. Meyer herself was a published religious author. When the religious leaders saw the fourth book and how disturbing the content was, they pulled it from the shelves of related stores. Stephanie got so mad that she claimed she received the books as visions from God, and to pull the books from shelves was akin to blasphemy.
A very distinct memory I have as a kid was when my dad took me to see the first Twilight movie. We had no knowledge of the books and the trailer made it seem like a cool vampire movie. It got to the part where Edward starts sparkling in the sun and I’ll never forget the immediate wave of disappointment from both of us.
My dad drove school bus and came home one day "please tell me you're not into sparkly vampires! Please tell me nobody wrote something that stupid!" His only solace was that I was a vampire purist😅
The fact that Edward Cullen became The Batman is right up there with Ted Theodore Logan growing up to Neo and John Wick. Except Keanu was actually a good actor that got amazing. And Bill and Ted Excellent Adventure was actually a fun, well shot, and uplifting movie.
Between this and Dominic Noble I’m enjoying the relatively recent surge of people saying “Maybe we were too harsh on Twilight, oh no it’s just as bad as we remember”
When I was in 8th grade, the first one came out. I remember because a number of my classmates kept talking about it. When I was in 9th grade, the second one came out and I remember some of my classmates saying they went to a midnight screening for it
The movie was amazing to watch in theaters because of how the entire audience reacted in unison, and not always how you thought that they would. The audible, collective psi, when Jacob took off his shirt and new moon, and the screams of horror, and discussed when Edward took off his shirt, and then put on the road and had a little bit of hair showing. Omg, we were awful while judging the shit going on in those movies. Sorry I gave you so much shit that you didn’t deserve, Robert Patterson. And sorry to all of the actors for blaming you all for the awful movies. It turns out that it was just a sucky book that y’all got sucked into making a movie of
When I was in 8th grade people in my choir class were geeking out over the trailer and announcement that it was coming. In 9th grade the movie came out and I checked out the first book at the library just to see what it was about only to see that I remembered people reading these books and a friend of mine telling me about how much she loved it and what it was about in middle school. Lol
I was volunteering at a haunted house playing a vampire when the second one came out. I quite enjoyed scaring the Twilight fans. You know, for girls who really wanted a vampire, they sure seemed scared when facing even a pretend one
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Yep, I was literally 13 when the first movie came out. For 13 year olds and their mothers who are into barely-legal eye candy.
It's easy to forget, though, that actors aren't always the reason for bad acting. A lot of times, they're struggling against the script, while other times it's simply the director telling them to "Tone it down some." Or up, if your name is Michael Sheen or Jeremy Irons.
Fun Fact: The "fight" in Breaking Dawn Part 2 is exclusive to the movie. In the books, there was nothing of the sort. The characters just engaged in talks and left it at that. While the brawl wasn't real, at least it was entertaining.
I barely knew anything about these movies going into this review, so when Critic got to the part where Jacob sees a baby and goes "Yeah, I'm gonna marry that someday", my jaw was on the floor
I've heard people make the argument that it wasn't meant to be a sexual or romantic imprinting, but more of a protective feeling. However, having Jacob ask Edward if he gets to call him 'dad' kind of blows that theory out of the water.
I remember when my sister dragged me to the movie theater for the midnight premiere of the first movie. While the movie itself was laughably bad, one thing I’ll never forget was when before the movie started, one of the employees at the theater I was at was asking trivial questions about Twilight and gave prizes to those who answered correctly. One of the questions was “What color was Bella’s dress at the end of the book?” One of the guys there raised his hand and he shouted “Clear?!” Now that made the otherwise painful experience of watching this movie a little bit fun.
Both Michael Sheen and Matt Smith get big credit for giving the most over the top performance they can muster while knowing they are in a bomb of a movie with vampires(if you can call them that).
This franchise would be a lot more interesting, and would turn into a psychological horror, if it were told from Charlie's perspective. He's a normal, nice guy thrust into a weird situation, and I wonder if he ever realised that Renesmee was his granddaughter who inexplicably aged multiple years overnight.
I do actually love that we can look back at something we saw as "bad" fifteen years ago and say, "maybe we harsh on it then" or "this got better with age", but we all have the sanity to look at the Twilight movies and say, "Yup, still shit. Is, always was and forever will be".
My grandma really loves these movies so whenever I visit for the holidays, she asks to marathon them. She doesn't really hold still though. She'll get up to go to the bathroom, make herself a snack, leave the room to take a phone call, etc. So whenever she leaves the room, I'll skip ahead a few chapters on the DVD. Then she comes back and is like 'oh, we're on this scene already?' And I just tell her she was gone a while. I've been doing it for years and she's never caught on. I don't want to tell her how much I hate them because she's such a big fan but it's a lot.
My Grandmother asked me what I thought about these books and mentioned that her book club was thinking about reading them. I sat there for about 10 seconds, stone-faced as Bea Arthur in the Golden Girls, before muttering something about The Hunger Games being a far superior YA literary entry for them to pursue. My unspoken reaction came straight from Bea Arthur-“Why do I feel like I just fell through the Looking Glass???”
I hated these movies when they came out and thought they were over rated. 10 Years later I finally watched them and find them HILARIOUS and honestly kinda love them. 10/10 guilty pleasure
Fun fact. The Australian Classification Board originally had this film as an MA15+, but the studio had to get an classification appeal to get it to an M rating so that they can get more people in to watch the film
Two things about that doll. First, in an interview, the actors refered to it as "Chucknessme" after it's resemblance to Chucky from Child's Play Second, it apparently disappeared some time after filming, and nobody knows where it went
Friendly reminder that Michael Sheen being introduced to the franchise is why he's now in Good Omens. Whenever the cast did interviews, everyone else was bashing it and talking about how it's beneath them. But not Michael. No, instead he spent the whole time talking about how much he loves the fantasy genre and getting to work in it. Neil Gaiman saw this and sent him some of his books, they met up over lunch, and they've been friends ever since. So, you know. No matter how much you may hate the twilight series, something good DID come out of it.
See this is what I love about Neil. The man sees genuine passion and love and just instantly thinks “I want that guy”. Another fun story-He was sick once and wound up reading a much lesser known webcomic online (Gunnerkrigg Court, for anyone interested) and gave it a shoutout because he loved it so much.
To be honest, Twilight is also the reason why we have Pattinson and Stewart, who over the years adapted and learned their craft and now they're quite accomplished actors. While they were already working actors at the time, this movie made them well known.
It's actually pretty hard to believe that this month is the 10th Anniversary of not only NC's return after a short hiatus from Discount Be Kind Rewind but also his first Editorial that also has Twilight in it. ^w^
I remember my classmates getting into Twilight when I was in school, but because I wasn't really into books at the time (or vampires) I never gave it a chance or a second thought. It seems that was the right choice.
22:53 Had me rolling! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was on my couch laughing my ass of as Doug took off his and says: Do me right now, do me like one of your French girls. Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Took me 5 minutes to get myself together before I resumed watching. But of course I played that part again just so I could laugh my ass off again...
I'd definitely argue a lot of the themes and undertones(unintentional or intentional) can bring a lot of harm to young audiences. Especially the stalker and creep undertones of Edward a person who's around a century old dating a teenage girl, and Jacob's whole "imprinting" sub plot.
Fun fact (unless somebody else mentioned it): Jennifer Lawrence had auditioned for the role of Bella, with it eventually going to Kristen Stewart. I'd like to think maybe J-Law dodged a bullet staying away from these films, but I also think it'd be hilarious living in that alternate reality and seeing her go from muttering "It's like diamonds: you're beautiful...", to yelling "YOU NICKNAMED MY DAUGHTER AFTER THE LOCH NESS MONSTER?!".
8:10 Since having not watched these film in a long time, I actually didn't really understand this part and I actually thought he was going to die or something but as I've realised since coming back to watch these scenes, the Volturi's intention was to keep the vampire's existence a secret, I think it was so that Bella couldn't risk it so that Edward couldn't get killed which was also why she had to protect her father and keep him from knowing she was a vampire also. But here's my question: How is it that the Volturi were trying to keep their race a secret when they also have humans as their servants?
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 I also recommend "The Lost City of Z". He's got a supporting role in it. Good movie if you've got a thing for historical movie and jungle settings.
And there were even a couple of movies like Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer's Vampires Suck and Craig Moss's Breaking Wind that attempted to parody Twilight. Film Brain even did a Bad Movie Beatdown review of the latter.
Funny Story - my husband has a lot of friends in the indie publishing circle. Many of them took university level creative writing classes from the late David Farland, who is a bit of a legend in the SFF author community. He taught the likes of Brandon Sanderson, who in turn took over the class when Farland retired. Anyway, Stephenie Meyer was another famous name who took Farland’s class. And during the whole Twilight craze, Dave was known to have mentioned to several of his other students (who my husband knows) that Meyer was a C student at best. Then again, she is a C student who sleeps on gold bars and can wipe her ass with $100 bills. So she definitely did something right. Wasn’t the writing, though.
Can you imagine if Edward Cullen looked as old as he was supposed to be. Imagine his scenes with her as a very elderly man. Weird how so many people just turned their brain off and think because he looks young nothing is weird about it.
One thing that I find the most hilarious about Twilight is how, over this past decade and a half most of its fans have abandoned it. They ridicule just as hard, if not harder than those of use that disliked it from the beginning. Why? Because they grew up and realized it's romanticizing an extremely toxic and abusive relationship between an unstable teenager with no agency or self preservation and a literal predatory stalker more than twice her age and constantly shows controlling, degrading and manipulative behavior.
For me the tragedy of Twilight Saga was always its wasted potential. I mean, literally every single not-main character is more interesting than the leads, and most of them also have better romantic plot lines, too. My absolute favourites are Alice and Jasper, two separate tragedies that united in a wonderful love story, but others, like Carlisle and Esme or Rosalie and Emmett could be interesting, too, much more interesting than Edward and Bella. Most of the wolves are kinda better than Jacob as well… There are so many actual tragic and touching stories hiding within Twilight, but they chose to follow an angsty, awkward and kinda toxic teenage romance…
I remember your old videos talking about this and saying how it was the worst love story ever. Definitely the times have changed but at least we seem to remember how bad the books and the movies were and how the media made fun of the love story between a girl, a vampire and a werewolf.
Edward’s spirit doesn’t actually appear to Bella, she legit hallucinates him because she’s so obsessed with him. I only know this because I made the terrible mistake of reading the book. Honestly, though, I don’t blame Doug for not knowing because the movie doesn’t explain this at all.
Man, I remember when this was what everyone was talking about in middle school. All of my friends and I were reading the books, watching the movies, wearing the shirts, and partaking in the whole Team Edward vs. Team Jacob debate. Man, just talking about the Twilight movies makes me feel old.
I can't deny that I loved these movies when I was younger. I read the first book before the series blew up and I was right along with everyone in the craze.
I find it funny that Bella was mad about Jacob nicknaming her daughter "Nessy", meanwhile if her baby was born a boy, she said was going to name him EJ or "Edward Jacob". Renesmee dodged a massive bullet being born a girl because otherwise, as a boy, he'd forever be associated with his mom's stupid teenage love triangle.
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What if... Batman Unchained had Scarecrow and Poison Ivy?
Can you talk about the old Jackson 5 cartoon? Or maybe even do an episode talking about celebrities who got their own cartoon? I think even Chuck Norris had one.
F yeah sparkle sparkle sparkle ✨
The "Twilight saga" have it's ups & downs of girls choosing to be on team Edward or team Jacob
Honestly the fact Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart were able to get back up from these films is really impressive
Not sure about Stewart
@@darthcinema4262 She did receive a rapturous amount of praise for her role as Princess Diana in Spencer, to the point where she was nominated for Best Actress at various awards shows.
@@darthcinema4262 she's given some solid performances since this series ended. There was a movie called underwater ( Or something like that) that I thought she was better in than the material called for.
@@SteinarrBattlefist Yeah I wasn't a fan of that one or Charlie's Angels 2019
@@SteinarrBattlefist Oh, that movie is so damn underrated, it's a crime. I was amazed that Stewart could perform that well.
“You nicknamed my daughter after the loch-Ness monster” is one of the most emotional and enlightening quotes in all of cinema
Ah, yes. Good ol' Bessie.
Better than two names smashed together, Bella.
She seemed more pissed off about that than the imprinting
Right!?! Like ... no Bella, the loch ness monster didn't even cross our minds. We're just working with the shitty name you gave her.
"And that was when I realized that my daughter was actually a twenty foot crustacian from the Jurassic period."
Twilight, the unwanted love story of a cold blooded heartless monster and a vampire.
Nah I got a better Idea it's an unwanted love story between an average Oc who is perfect in everyway, her furry lover and the sparkling emo boy
Ouch
So true. Bella is one of the worst characters in all of fiction.
Can’t believe girls grew up liking her
Lmfao
Don’t forget the werewolf
My favourite "Twilight actors vs Twilight" moment is when Anna Kendrick admitted on Twitter she forgot she was in Twilight and then live tweeted herself watching the movie for the first time
I think everyone else did as well
@@tristanhartup4936 Or at least they definitely _want_ to forget.
That's cannon? I mean, that's real? Hahahahaha I need to search for that tweet thread.
I don’t blame her. I forgot she was in these too 😂
My wife alleges to this day that these movies are amazing and she loves them. And every time she begs me to watch them with her I have to remind her that I will be laughing nonstop from beginning to end.
Michael Sheen is honestly a treasure. If he's in a good thing, he makes it better. If he's in a bad thing, he makes it so bad it's good
@@carterb92 How about both, both are good.
Staged is brilliant!
He really is a treasure
He's the only one I stuck around for
Michael Sheen is up there with Tim Curry and Bruce Campbell, where they can be in the shittest piece of cinematic art, yet can always come out on the other side being the only piece of gold in a stank of a turd. They are like a holy Trinity.
The funniest thing about these movies to me is that Robert Pattinson was intentionally trying to be bad in these movies ‘cuz he genuinely hated them.
He just willingly chose to not give a shit while being filmed, and the director never asked for another take. That’s just gold.
Hey a paychecks a paycheck at the end of the day
That was partly because Kristen was constantly being yelled at for showing emotion or reacting. He figured if the lead wasn't allowed to act, how the hell could he possibly act next to that? I think at that moment no one took it seriously.
X to doubt
@@littlekong7685 wtf? Why did they yell at Stewart for being expressive?
that’s why he chuckled when he heard “renesmee”? 😂 (i don’t have a clue how it spells)
Fun Fact about The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn: Part 2: To protect Mackenzie Foy on the set, Bill Condon had set up a swear jar where any cast and crew members caught swearing or uttering profanities were fined on the spot. The amount collected from the jar was donated to St. Jude's Children Hospital.
Georgie Henley did the same thing on the set of The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe.
I feel like some of the cast members after realizing the money would be donated would be full on Jay and Silent Bob
HOW MUCH MONEY DID THE JAR RAISE?! Even if you don’t know, that’s actually pretty wholesome. 🥲
Chris Columbus did something similar on the set of the first Home Alone to protect Macualay Culkin. Allegedly, Joe Pesci single-handedly filled up the entire jar in one day.
@@jbwarner8626 Didn't Goodfellas hold the record for profanity for a while?
Fun fact: The cast HATED the movies!!! They didn't even go to the London premiere of the last movie. They went BOWLING!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey I don’t blame em lol
Can't say I blame 'em!
The movies were garbage!
Bella's a whiny little brat!
And kristen can't act
I don't blame them either, no one should sit through that Twilight shit!
That's probably the most heartwarming moment in the series. They hated the movie they were in, but still spent time together afterwards
I don't blame them
The first movie is actually what broke me out of my twilight craze. I went to see it and was offended as a fan at how bad it was, went to reread the books to comfort myself, and suddenly I couldn’t figure out what I had found so enthralling about it in the first place.
The movie simply exposed the hollowness of it all.
Daaaaammnn...
@@sdsign4229exactly the books are just Bella fawning over how beautiful Edward is and wanting to be a vampire so she can be beautiful too
Count yourself lucky
Fun fact: in the Jacob carries Bella scene, they originally had a rig set up hold steward so Taylor wouldn’t have to carry her. But it didn’t look real so they asked him to carry her for the entire scene. Taylor, being buff and thinking nothing of it, said sure.
One days shooting later taylors arms were so shot he couldn’t lift them to write his own name.
Didn’t Jacob _push_ her in a _shopping cart_ in the book?
@@rogue7723doubt Taylor’s arms woulda been any less sore from shooting if that was the case
@@rogue7723 no. no he didn't
Got to love that one of the main conflicts of the series is that Bella is completely on board with becoming a vampire... but marriage may be too much of a commitment for her. To quote a far better vampire than any found in Twilight, "Is everyone here very stoned?"
I know that vampire! 🤣
Been rewatching that vampire lately. One of my favorite quotes of his, the first probably being “out for a walk…bitch”
i feel like you've never been a 17 year old girl... "she got married as a teen!" --eewww trashy wtf... "she is invincible" - cooool :D
Yay, Spike!
I think the first movie describes the similarities between the two words Love and Lust to a degree that makes me uncomfortable. If they made the story based on the idea that Vampires have a difficult time grasping the difference between those two concepts than that would have made for a better film. But what we got was a protagonist that just goes along with it because she thinks love and lust are synonyms, yeah what a fucken disaster. Give that bitch a dicktionary...
Brian and Stewie discuss Breaking Dawn Battle scene:
Brian: So, what you're saying is that what everyone experienced in Alice's vision didn't really happen, or even matter?
Stewie: Yes, that's correct.
Brian: So, it was sorta like a dream?
Stewie: No, it was a vision of the future.
Brian: Yes, but, theoretically, if someone watched the events of that vision from start to finish, only to find out that none of it really happened, I mean... you don't think, that would, j-- be just like a giant middle finger to them?
Stewie: Well, hopefully, they would have enjoyed the ride.
Brian: I don't know, man. I think you'd piss a lot of people off that way.
"at least it didn't fade to black mid sen........"
Stewie: Well, at least it wasn’t like The Sopranos where they just cut off mid sent-
Well at least it didn’t end like The Sopranos where it cut to black in mid sen-
Fun Fact about The Twilight Saga: New Moon: During an argument between Bella and Edward in the truck outside her house, the Edward that got out of the truck was actually a double dressed like Robert Pattinson in the seat. Pattinson was actually positioned next to the camera but out of sight. After the double moved out, Pattinson stepped in front the camera. Chris Weitz pointed out that this was trick deliberately done to simulate how Edward moved in and out of the truck in an inhuman manner.
That has to be the dullest bit of trivia. Hour 3 of the extended directors commentary? Paha
@@mandowarrior123 I know right. All I could think of was... neat.
Actually, that is pretty neat. It shows a certain amount of effort and attention to detail that, quite frankly, you usually can't attribute to this franchise.
@@mandowarrior123 I disagree but okay.
Sheen's laugh, in my opinion, is somewhat warranted.
His character has lived centuries and seen many strange things. It would take something big to get a reaction.
Meeting Renesmee--he is amazed and surprised at that experience to a point it sounds like laughter.
My guess on the "reasoning" behind Jacob imprinting on Renesmee is that the writer had built up the whole Team Edward vs. Team Jacob thing and didn't want to upset Team Jacob too much, so she gave him a Consolation Bella.
I'm not sure but i think that just makes this even worse and even more creepy
@@shinrailp1416I could be wrong, but that's the closest to sense I can make out of this. I also think Rowling admitting that she wished she had put Harry and Hermione together was to placate those shippers.
That's really romantic hahahahahag
Actually the thing is even dumber…
Meyer actually wrote the books out of order. Immediately after writing Twilight, which was her wish fulfillment fantasy from a dream she had, she wrote Forever Dawn. Forever Dawn had Jacob, the werewolves, and the Volturi, but they weren’t thought of as more than tools. I mean they already were tools, but Meyer didn’t think about them as a more than a love interest/babysitter for her wish fulfillment child, allies to protect the wish fulfillment child, and villains who would harm her, her preferred family, and her wish fulfillment child.
Jacob in Forever Dawn is based on Jacob from Twilight, a guy who liked Bella but was never part of the love triangle, but was helpful enough to her that her daughter should get a supernatural boyfriend too.
Forever Dawn would become parts 1 and 3 of Breaking Dawn with only a few mentions/references to the previously established characters and lore, but otherwise unchanged. Part 2 of the Breaking Dawn book was actually the last part of the series that she wrote.
Honestly, I recommend you read Das Mervin’s review of the books. She goes through them chapter by chapter analyzing the the four books and what they did wrong and why they’re much worse than just sparkling vampires.
There’s also a much worse version of the Renesmee/Jacob pairing. Meyer gave a crap reason in an attempt to make that pairing less creepy by saying that Renesmee was born with adult intelligence. It’s still shit, but there’s a werewolf who imprints on an actual human toddler. I specify human toddler because unlike Renesmee, a human toddler wasn’t born with “adult intelligence!” She is more likely being groomed by said werewolf and doesn’t have the false safety net of a bunch of vampires in her family wanting to protect her. Or the “adult intelligence” to give the false idea of “knowing and consenting”.
@@brentparker7359 f*** JK also I never understood that I thought Ron and Hermione worked the constant bickering felt less like actual argument half the time and more just like a lover's quarrel
Let's not forget THE worst thing about Twilight... It's fan fic led to 50 Shades 😱
Oh No! Really?!!
@@monikathesavagebear9149 yeah... 50 shades of grey started as a Twilight fan fic.
@@goonerOZZ That's disgusting!!
Don't remind me
@@monikathesavagebear9149 Yep. Twilight's author even encouraged 50 Shades' author to publish it
This is something I will die on: I don't blame Kristen Stewart for her reactions in the movies. She was clearly written to be the awkward not like other girls archetype that's unfortunately written in a lot of early YA novels. It's still pretty common now too with Colleen Hoover books as well. She was doing what was written and honestly I kind of give it to her for poking fun at her bad acting a few years later.
I never blamed any of the actors in these movies, I always blamed the writing
Nah Bella was terrible because Kristin the lip biting and exhaling and wannabe awkward mannerisms didn’t translate well at all the actin got a lot of free range in the characterizations from what I heard so it’s not all directors and writers
I mean, to be fair, a lot of bella's personality is based on stephenie meyer (as she herself said) and bella viewed herself as a mediocrity, which explains why kristen portrayed her in a bland way
@@yelhsanosnhoj6602 She was literally yelled at when showed too much emotions on set, they wanted to bite her lip all the time and act like an emotionless piece of wood. That’s not her fault. I’ve seen her in other stuff, she’s a pretty descent actress.
"You nicknamed my daughter after the Loch Ness monster!?!"
Best line in the whole series! 😂🤣
Every time I hear that line, I always imagine when they were filming that moment, at the end of the take Kristen Stewart bursting into laughter like "What the hell did I just say?!"
@@tristanhartup4936 It's not what she said, it's how she said it. That line delivery was entertainingly wooden.
No the best line is "you better hold on tight spider monkey"
I never understood how she acted like that was the worst part of the situation. You know, after falling for a baby
NESSSEEEEHHHHHHHH
I remember the Harry Potter-Twilight rivalry that arose from this franchise.
At least Harry Potter has kept a strong lasting impression on its Fandom.
Twilight is like an awkward teenage phase that sane people look back on and cringe at.
The Harry Potter books/movies, even despite their flaws, are way higher quality writing than Twilight. Like literally leaps and bounds better
@@shadowofdread7018 also Harry Potter fanfic didn't spawn the 50 shades series so I'm good with it
@@noahberg101
The only notable fanfiction Harry Potter spawned was My Immortal, which is a so-terrible-it’s-great piece of work. Internet Historian did a dramatic reading of it and it’s hilarious
@@shadowofdread7018 omg I have to watch that. Wasn't it the longest peice of fanfic before something beat it?
@@noahberg101
I have no clue tbh but I know that it’s such a huge mystery as to who the writer is because it was never finished
The most chemistry those two ever had was when there were in chemistry class together
Too bad it was biology class.
Fun Fact: Peter Facinelli was the second choice to play Carlisle Cullen. When he found out that he lost out on the final round of auditions, he wrote a note to Catherine Hardwicke, saying, "I hope to work with you sometime." At the last minute before shooting, the original actor withdrew due to shooting conflicts. Hardwicke then offered the role to Facinelli, who immediately took it up. He had to bleach his hair blond before starting work.
Who was the first choice, because they dodged a bullet.
Also he was originally auditioning for edward and they had actually good chemistry with Kristen. But he was too old for 17 old Kristen xD
Weirdly enough with the slicked back blonde hair, he looks more like Dr. Wesker than the actual Dr. Wesker in the Resident Evil movies.
Anybody realize that the dialogue Edward has towards Bella could apply to a pet? "I like to watch you sleep." "I feel protective of you." Dude, he abandoned her in the woods after dumping her!?!
"Your mother, she's more like...a pet to me." Edward to Nessie.
Sounds like how Rose Quartz talks to Greg
The books, the movies, the entire craze of the 2000s and the 2010s, nothing brought as much brainless love or cynical hate quite like the Twilight saga!
Except Justin Bieber.
yup it was everyones favorite target.
And then The Hunger Games took it from there.
One of the many things I was confused about in New Moon is Jacob cutting his hair off even though it’s established he and his family are Native Americans. Thought they don’t cut their hair.
The birth scene is freaking brutal. Also the whole imprinted scene is a massive wtf & how did no one not stop that for making it in the film
As someone who hasn't seen the movies(only the first one) I'll give a compliment to the pregnancy and birth scenes from what I seen in clips: they're freaking well done! I'm astonished that the make up job and effects are so good for a turd like this!💩
That childbirth scene only makes me think of a quote from Roger Ebert’s review: “The most bloodcurdling scene of live childbirth I’ve seen in a PG-13 movie.” For someone who spent the majority of his life as the world’s most renowned film critic, that is weirdly impressive, especially considering this was in the last year of his life/career
TBH, I had no idea what imprinted meant as a kid, even now, I still didn't...until I asked my dad, and he said, "He practically marked her and is destined to be her soulmate." To which made me think...that's a fucking baby...
A better question would be why Stephanie Meyer wrote down that Jacob falls in love with a baby
"No, you misunderstand; he falls in love with the 18-year old vision of-"
STOP. Just shut up
@@DivineChaos204Imprinting is what it's called when a dog chooses its master.
The cut to Woody saying "WHAT?!" is so perfect 😂😂
Love the way we got it twice 😂
@@mollymcbride2481 Once sure ain't enough.
IKR!!
Timestamp?
@@amarikristopher8409 8:50
Can’t believe it’s been a decade since the saga ended, crazy to think this use to be the internet’s old punching bag .
Even Robert Pattinson hates the movie
Still is
Still is, people are still saying "better love story than Twilight" to this day.
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 I was disappointed he never sparkled once in The Batman.
It SO still is.
Going from a teenage girl who loved these unironically to an adult woman who loves these ironically is my great character arc.
We all go through great growth and become better versions of ourselves.
the facetious veneer of pretending to like something ironically in place of evolving as a person is in fact very unironic for these times. I unironically think you were a cooler person as a teen when you just did what you genuinely enjoyed.
Same lmao. I still like them… but for the wrong reasons now lol
@@darkdemigod you know the movie The Room exists, right? And how popular it is? Now, how many people do you think like that movie UNironically, hm?
My character arc was being annoyed by the hate to understanding the hate
I remember watching Eclipse and going "Wait, there was a vampire out for revenge of those her killed her love. She manipulates a pack of troubled youths, stoking their bloodlust while offering compassion they haven't seen before before leading them to a suicide mission" and thinking they chose the wrong protagonist
It's common thing when talking this franchise, all of the supporting characters were far more interesting than the leads
She pulled a Shepherd
You know there's a spinoff centering one of victoria's child soldiers, right?
You know, aside of the usual creepiness of a centuries-old guy falling for a teenager, a guy seeing an _newborn infant_ and going "oh yeah, can't wait till you'll turn 18" is somehow worse on so more epic level I can't really describe it.
I still get sickness in my stomach whenever I remember that fact, thanks.
Because Edward at least looks young enough for their relationship to work on a surface-level. With Jacob and the baby, it's fundamentally creepy.
@@AluminumFusion22it don’t matter what Edward looks like that doesn’t make it better stop making excuses for pedophilia cuz that’s what you’re doing
@@BC92Se7en Quill, but yes, those flavor of shenanigans were already present.
As a man named Edward, these movies were the bane of my existence for a long time. Especially since I had friends who were obsessed with the books and movies. One friend even dragged me to see New Moon and Eclipse when they both came out. On the upside, I got to make fun of them while we watched so at least I had that.
I take it you go by Ed or Eddie now.
@@l.tc.5032 Oh I went by Ed back then, but my friend insisted on calling me Edward when we'd go.
Don't worry, pal, you can always be Edward Scissorhands for me.
It's funny because I was friends with an Eduard and Jacob back when these movies where out and I used to always make fun of them for this.
I guess Fullmetal Alchemist(phenomenal show BTW. Especially the remake) wasn’t as popular as I thought (the main character in that was called Edward as well)!
After seeing this, I think I remember why the meme “still a better love story than Twilight” exists
Honestly, really wish this had been given the full Nostalgia Critic review treatment with the dressing up and skits and an episode for each movie. Soooo much material to work with in each film.
Something that still baffles me is how these films actually did managed to legit get one thing consistently great, the musical scores, which were often made by extremely talented composers such as Alexandre Desplat (The Shape of Water, Grand Budapest Hotel), Carter Burwell (Fargo, True Grit) and freaking Howard Shore fresh from his success in the Lord of the Rings trilogy
Luckily, musical scores tend to be pretty immune to the terribleness of scripts or performing. Sometimes make up for it.
Unfortunately, "You can't save a bad movie with a good score." as Ennio Morricone once said.
And the OST which had like every big emo/alt rock band on it and is still pretty good to this day if you're into those genres.
It's almost as if a sizable chunk of the films' budget went to the soundtrack.
Uh…Star Wars prequel trilogy much?
Never forget: When Michael Sheen once starred in the Underworld series, with him even returning to play the werewolf [Lycan] Lucian in its prequel the same year he started playing Aro in New Moon, the war in there started because he and his vampire girlfriend Sonja achieved the impossible: uniting the bloodlines to make a were-pire child whose existence particularly freaked out the vampire council. 🦇
NEVER will Sheen's major role reversal in these series cease to amuse me. 😆
I remember when the first movie came out, the book was already a hit, and everyone was talking how it was making an impact, how it was a story about vampires, and all my girl friends were absolutely in love with the main character. I immediately thought "Damn... I'm missing the next Dracula here!"
And after watching It... I didn't even feel angry, just... Absolutely underwhelmed. My exact first words after It were "This...? This is what got people so riled up!?"
I'm not gonna lie, I hated it so much I never mustered the corage, or stomach, to watch any of the rest
Honestly, I was about the same. I heard about it from the other gals in my class and how much they loved it. I was a HUGE fan but I remember not liking it, which is kinda weird XD Looking back, I may have just peer pressured myself into liking it to fit in with pop culture
To quote Kevin Murphy from Rifftrax in regards to Michael Sheen's laugh:
"OK, there's no comment in the world that could make that funnier."
Let it sink in, that this movie got so crazy, it even silenced those guys.
Nostalgia is constantly evolving. I feel like these movies were relevant at a time when this show first started
They were. Nostalgia Critics first episodes were around the same time.
@@dreamlandnightmare Nostalgia Critic began 1 year earlier. Nostalgia Critic 1.0 ended at about the same time as the Twilight Saga. (When Doug tried to retire NC.)
That *is* how nostalgia and the human perception of time work, yes.
@@haljordan777 That is true, I'm surprised Doug didn't make that connection 🤔.
Would've been better if he had just reviewed all the Twilight movies individually rather than just rushing through all of them so he can get back to reviewing children's movies.
I'm gonna pull out my "twilight girl" card here, but in New Moon it's not Edward's spirit it's Bella having literal hallucinations of Edward telling her not to do anything reckless. Which makes it all the more upsetting that she's doing all this crazy scary stuff because she wants to keep hallucinating him.
Edit:
Thank you for all the likes and comments. If you wanna more in depth analysis, go check out Dominic Nobles videos about the Twilight books and movies. He has an unbiased opinion about the books/movies and and how they progressively get worse overtime.
So, she's addicted to hallucinations... interesting...
@@rayzorduality2396 Oh you could do a whole dissertation on Bella's mental state if you wanted to.
@@rayzorduality2396 And Bella's blood is Edward's "personal brand of heroine."
If your ever bored go watch cinema therapy Twilight and skip to the part where the film guy explains to the therapist that these vampires can't Astral project
Bella has absolutly no personality. She thinks she's nothing without Edward because i think she believe he is the only interesting person at the school? Or wtf is it? She even HAS friend she chooses not to socialize with and why? I get you are depressed after a breakup.. But really now? All the people around her cares but SHE dosen't. She ooooonly cares about Edward and why? Wtf are SO great about him?
He lies, gaslights, and hurts her...but "eye candy" right?
The Twilight films released EXACTLY during my teen years, and they were the kind of bad phenomenon that the media loved parodying/tearing apart. Crazy to think the world had forgotten about them, their influence was everywhere back then.
“Why can’t you tell how perfectly happy I am”
Why can’t you tell how perfectly delivered that line was.
I mean she could have been being sarcastic but the fact that i couldn’t tell says a lot about this character.
If you find all the different versions of the Michael Sheen laughing scene, you will be my hero. That laugh brings me so much joy because of how odd it is. So hearing it is the most toned down version of the laugh makes me want to see what the ones they didn’t use were like. Also Team Mustache Dad for life because Charlie Swan was always perfect in the movies.
That laugh and the Voldemort "Harry Potter is Dead! Yeh-heh-heh!" laugh from the Deathly Hallows 2 movie coloured the beginning of the 2010s.
@@JarethTheGoblinKingForever I would have gone with the 'Most Awkward Hug In History" as the moment from Deathly Hallows but yeah.
@@jbwarner8626 Maybe it was - "Voldemort's weird laugh and awkward Malfoy hug? We can top that! Get Michael Sheen in here and get him laughing right now!" 😆
@@nicholasholladay-elser7307 That hug scene was pretty awkward. "Mmm, well done, Draco! Well done!" while a dead kid just lays there nearby.
@@JarethTheGoblinKingForever And Malfoy’s traumatized expression at being hugged by Voldy. 😂
So this is why Doug took a break last week, he was mentally preparing himself for this...
We salute you Doug!
Well, he had five movies to watch.
I feel sorry for him 😂 that would’ve been torture
@@KeybladeMasterAndy that's nothing he's going to have to get to the MCU one of these days.
@@l.tc.5032 He's already way ahead on that one.
@@jp3813 any proof?
I still remember watching Doug’s unhinged rant about Breaking Dawn Part 2 to this day.
Especially after he says that action packed finale was all a dream.
@@MovieFan1912 Actually a vision. But it doesn't make it any better.
I still remember the mental breakdown he suffered from Part 1! Man, was that entertaining to watch.
Doug's? Wasn't it Rob's? It was HILARIOUS.
what rant-?
The ending battle being just a vision is like the biggest cocktease in movie history
If I’d been a Twilight fan, I’d be pissed I wasted so much time for that to be the climax
I was born in 2004 and when I was 13 when I saw this I was like " this is a teenage romance story?" The only reason I like it is because of the design of the wolves. They looked so soft
That's the only reason I would watch the movies.
Yep, cuddly is much better than sparkly. (Shiny is still great though, like a more intense sparkly.)
Saw the last movie in theaters. Everyone cheered so loud during that fight, and as soon as it turned into a dream sequence, we all yelled in frustration. The entire audience united in their disappointment.
That scene was one of the strangest experiences I had in a movie theater
you cud tell who red the 📖 by leasening the ghasping noices.
In the books the valuturi, (those Italian vampire cultists) just where sufficiently intimidated and turn tail.
That fight wasn't in the books, so imaging our surprise when characters start dropping like flies out of nowhere.
I had no Idea what tha hell was going one I look at my friends who allso read it and where just as confused as I was, the look on our faces worth the ticket price alone😂
And yes it was a vision and may be disapointing for movie onlly but we got an action sceen that wasn't supposed to happen that allso makes sence to that world and didn't change the ending.
The writers did the best they cud with what was given I applaud that.
@@Ballard258 yeah, the only good part in the movies is not in the books, my pet theory is, the ending was like, "Okay you poor boyfriends we made you sit through 5 shitty movies, here is something for you as a reward."
@@wolfwing1 beside me I only know a cupple of dudes who read those books, we got something out of it, but it wasn't laid.
Having been a teenage girl when the twilight movies came out, watching them in theaters, was a real treat. The fact that all the girls collectively side when Jacob took his shirt off, and were screaming in horror when they saw Edward and his little bit of chest fuzz… That was amazing
I was super sad that I didn’t see the third or fourth and fifth movies in theaters, but now I feel better ☺️
Thank you. This is the best thing I’ve seen all day. The image will be stored forever in my brain to pull out on a rainy day and heartily snort at.
Omg yes every girl screamed when Jacob shirt come off but when Edward I was ewwww put it back on lol
New moon was amazing fun in theaters 😂 good times
*sighed
Fun fact: Robert Pattinson was traumatized by Twilight fans sending him vials of their own blood. That’s how insane this fanbase was.
oh gawd that is SICK. Poor Rob :(
Seriously?
He didn’t mean like twilight and playing Edward
They weren't fans, then. They were fanatics.
And I thought the rick and morty fanbase was a total crap shoot.
I actually ended up watching Twilight on the cinema with a friend from highschool when we had this favourite past time during weekends where we'd randomly select any movie to watch in our local cinema simply by browsing the synopsis displayed on the cinema's noticeboard. We knew nothing about the Twilight novel craze and the noticeboard basically only mentioned the movie having something to do with a modern world where humans and vampires co-exist together so we naturally thought it was going to be like Angel (TV series) as opposed to being a full-blown teen romance drama. Goes without saying, I fell asleep through certain parts of the film and when the credits started rolling after the two went to the prom, I was immediately surprised and thought, "Wait, that's all? So that underwhelming fight scene where the Cullens ganged up on that one vampire was already the third act?" Times passed, and I would find myself not being alone when I started actively browsing online and finding how many people ridiculed this movie and the franchise. I do however think Bella's dad is overall the best, coolest, and only reasonable character in the entire saga. I'd zealously watch/read a spinoff centers around him where he kicks vampires and werewolves' asses all the while being a mere human.
Also, that uncanny CGI face on baby Nessie really, really doesn't age well these days.
What the hell was that?!
@@cheneethompson5756 A Tale of Regrets.
I'm glad Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are leading successful careers after the _Twilight_ movies, but...man were these growing pains hard to get through. At least we know they both HATED being in them.
I think the weirdest thing about these film is they somehow got Rami Malek to play a vampire
That scene where he drops the water onto the floor and it gets on everyone's shoes is more comedic than it has any right to be
I'm glad my sisters got into this after the movies were no longer in theaters so I could leave the room when they watched them
But watching them in theaters was amazing!! The audiences reactions were hilarious and often times not what you would’ve expected
I was certain my sister would develop a crush on Edward and I'd have to suffer through that, instead she developed a crush on Marvel's Thor when we went to see his first movie. When I asked if she had a crush on him and she shyly said yes, I actually looked to the heavens and proclaimed, "OH, THANK GOD!", since she had better taste in fantasy men than Edward Cullen.
This series has some of the most toxic, un-sexy relationships I've ever seen. One the one hand, you have a stalker weirdo who wants to control everything Bella ever does, and on the other hand, you have a jacked up rage monster who gets all bent out of shape when Bella doesn't do what he wants. And to top it off, they're fighting over a girl who possesses less intelligence than a goldfish, the emotional range of a cinderblock, and is more clingy and dependent than a newborn baby. I look at this series, and I genuinely wonder just how many skeletons Stephanie Meyer has in her closet.
Beautiful and accurate description. 😂
Mormonism, it can really do things to some people, I'm an Ex-Mormon myself, so I speak from experience.
The real Quileute trive would also like a word.
@@tristanhartup4936 not just that, but a Mormon from the church of Latter Day Saints. Yeah, it’s that bad.
Oh, Meyer's is a crazy person. It seems to be a family trait. I went to school with her neice and nephew. The neice idolized her so much that she dressed up as female characters from the book.
Meyer herself was a published religious author. When the religious leaders saw the fourth book and how disturbing the content was, they pulled it from the shelves of related stores. Stephanie got so mad that she claimed she received the books as visions from God, and to pull the books from shelves was akin to blasphemy.
A very distinct memory I have as a kid was when my dad took me to see the first Twilight movie. We had no knowledge of the books and the trailer made it seem like a cool vampire movie. It got to the part where Edward starts sparkling in the sun and I’ll never forget the immediate wave of disappointment from both of us.
My dad drove school bus and came home one day "please tell me you're not into sparkly vampires! Please tell me nobody wrote something that stupid!"
His only solace was that I was a vampire purist😅
The fact that Edward Cullen became The Batman is right up there with Ted Theodore Logan growing up to Neo and John Wick. Except Keanu was actually a good actor that got amazing. And Bill and Ted Excellent Adventure was actually a fun, well shot, and uplifting movie.
Between this and Dominic Noble I’m enjoying the relatively recent surge of people saying “Maybe we were too harsh on Twilight, oh no it’s just as bad as we remember”
When I was in 8th grade, the first one came out. I remember because a number of my classmates kept talking about it. When I was in 9th grade, the second one came out and I remember some of my classmates saying they went to a midnight screening for it
This movie was made for 13 year old girls
The movie was amazing to watch in theaters because of how the entire audience reacted in unison, and not always how you thought that they would. The audible, collective psi, when Jacob took off his shirt and new moon, and the screams of horror, and discussed when Edward took off his shirt, and then put on the road and had a little bit of hair showing. Omg, we were awful while judging the shit going on in those movies. Sorry I gave you so much shit that you didn’t deserve, Robert Patterson. And sorry to all of the actors for blaming you all for the awful movies. It turns out that it was just a sucky book that y’all got sucked into making a movie of
When I was in 8th grade people in my choir class were geeking out over the trailer and announcement that it was coming.
In 9th grade the movie came out and I checked out the first book at the library just to see what it was about only to see that I remembered people reading these books and a friend of mine telling me about how much she loved it and what it was about in middle school. Lol
I was volunteering at a haunted house playing a vampire when the second one came out. I quite enjoyed scaring the Twilight fans. You know, for girls who really wanted a vampire, they sure seemed scared when facing even a pretend one
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Yep, I was literally 13 when the first movie came out. For 13 year olds and their mothers who are into barely-legal eye candy.
Honestly I never ever expected Critic to ever do these abominations.
Thank God he did them all in one sitting.
It's easy to forget, though, that actors aren't always the reason for bad acting. A lot of times, they're struggling against the script, while other times it's simply the director telling them to "Tone it down some." Or up, if your name is Michael Sheen or Jeremy Irons.
Fun Fact: The "fight" in Breaking Dawn Part 2 is exclusive to the movie. In the books, there was nothing of the sort. The characters just engaged in talks and left it at that. While the brawl wasn't real, at least it was entertaining.
what better way to start the month of valentine's day with the nostalgia critic finally looking at the twilight saga
you should see the live review he did about the last twilight. look it up
I'm surprised he didn't mention how he did a Twilight video in February almost 10 years ago. One if his first film editorials 😆 😆.
I barely knew anything about these movies going into this review, so when Critic got to the part where Jacob sees a baby and goes "Yeah, I'm gonna marry that someday", my jaw was on the floor
I've heard people make the argument that it wasn't meant to be a sexual or romantic imprinting, but more of a protective feeling. However, having Jacob ask Edward if he gets to call him 'dad' kind of blows that theory out of the water.
@@Here_is_Waldo having Alice literally look into the future and see them hooking up doesn’t help
I remember when my sister dragged me to the movie theater for the midnight premiere of the first movie. While the movie itself was laughably bad, one thing I’ll never forget was when before the movie started, one of the employees at the theater I was at was asking trivial questions about Twilight and gave prizes to those who answered correctly. One of the questions was “What color was Bella’s dress at the end of the book?” One of the guys there raised his hand and he shouted “Clear?!” Now that made the otherwise painful experience of watching this movie a little bit fun.
"A better story than twilight "will forever be engraved on the internet!
So, I desperately hope that he was serious about finding those outtakes, and when he does, he shares them with the rest of us.
we could do some sort of Kickstarter and drag Doug through it. I want to see those outtakes
Both Michael Sheen and Matt Smith get big credit for giving the most over the top performance they can muster while knowing they are in a bomb of a movie with vampires(if you can call them that).
Nobody has seen morbius, how do you even know he's in it.
@@mandowarrior123 “Daemon” was a vampire??
@@mandowarrior123 TH-cam what else
This franchise would be a lot more interesting, and would turn into a psychological horror, if it were told from Charlie's perspective. He's a normal, nice guy thrust into a weird situation, and I wonder if he ever realised that Renesmee was his granddaughter who inexplicably aged multiple years overnight.
In the book he got it almost right away
The dub on Edawrd and Jacob's argument in Eclipse added *years* to my life! And also....Aro's cackle that was *_GOLD._*
I do actually love that we can look back at something we saw as "bad" fifteen years ago and say, "maybe we harsh on it then" or "this got better with age", but we all have the sanity to look at the Twilight movies and say, "Yup, still shit. Is, always was and forever will be".
4:29 Oh man. That Speedy Gonzalez bit has me in stitches. I had to go back to parts I missed because I was laughing for so long 😂
My grandma really loves these movies so whenever I visit for the holidays, she asks to marathon them. She doesn't really hold still though. She'll get up to go to the bathroom, make herself a snack, leave the room to take a phone call, etc. So whenever she leaves the room, I'll skip ahead a few chapters on the DVD. Then she comes back and is like 'oh, we're on this scene already?' And I just tell her she was gone a while. I've been doing it for years and she's never caught on. I don't want to tell her how much I hate them because she's such a big fan but it's a lot.
My Grandmother asked me what I thought about these books and mentioned that her book club was thinking about reading them. I sat there for about 10 seconds, stone-faced as Bea Arthur in the Golden Girls, before muttering something about The Hunger Games being a far superior YA literary entry for them to pursue. My unspoken reaction came straight from Bea Arthur-“Why do I feel like I just fell through the Looking Glass???”
I hated these movies when they came out and thought they were over rated. 10 Years later I finally watched them and find them HILARIOUS and honestly kinda love them. 10/10 guilty pleasure
Fun fact. The Australian Classification Board originally had this film as an MA15+, but the studio had to get an classification appeal to get it to an M rating so that they can get more people in to watch the film
Two things about that doll.
First, in an interview, the actors refered to it as "Chucknessme" after it's resemblance to Chucky from Child's Play
Second, it apparently disappeared some time after filming, and nobody knows where it went
Holy shit! Lol!
That Chuckesmee doll is on display at the Forks Chamber of Commerce "Forever Twilight" display in Forks, Washington.
Friendly reminder that Michael Sheen being introduced to the franchise is why he's now in Good Omens.
Whenever the cast did interviews, everyone else was bashing it and talking about how it's beneath them.
But not Michael. No, instead he spent the whole time talking about how much he loves the fantasy genre and getting to work in it.
Neil Gaiman saw this and sent him some of his books, they met up over lunch, and they've been friends ever since.
So, you know. No matter how much you may hate the twilight series, something good DID come out of it.
Good for him
Did you saw that post about Twilight being the reason Ellen deGeneres being canceled?
See this is what I love about Neil. The man sees genuine passion and love and just instantly thinks “I want that guy”.
Another fun story-He was sick once and wound up reading a much lesser known webcomic online (Gunnerkrigg Court, for anyone interested) and gave it a shoutout because he loved it so much.
To be honest, Twilight is also the reason why we have Pattinson and Stewart, who over the years adapted and learned their craft and now they're quite accomplished actors. While they were already working actors at the time, this movie made them well known.
It also I don't hate these movies I genuinely don't care about them but that's two improvements they've did to my life
It's actually pretty hard to believe that this month is the 10th Anniversary of not only NC's return after a short hiatus from Discount Be Kind Rewind but also his first Editorial that also has Twilight in it. ^w^
The editing has been improving pretty noticeable these last couple of vids !!! The writing a lot sharper too , keep it up guys
Thanks for watching Hi Man!
@@ChannelAwesome ofc ofc , but the real question I have for you is “WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE VEGAS !”
I remember my classmates getting into Twilight when I was in school, but because I wasn't really into books at the time (or vampires) I never gave it a chance or a second thought. It seems that was the right choice.
Jacob falling in love with a literal baby is much worse than Bella throwing herself off cliffs in my opinion
22:53 Had me rolling! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was on my couch laughing my ass of as Doug took off his and says:
Do me right now, do me like one of your French girls.
Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Took me 5 minutes to get myself together before I resumed watching. But of course I played that part again just so I could laugh my ass off again...
I remembered when hotel transylvania did a scene with twilight as a joke compared to authentic vampires to "romantic" vampires
I'd definitely argue a lot of the themes and undertones(unintentional or intentional) can bring a lot of harm to young audiences. Especially the stalker and creep undertones of Edward a person who's around a century old dating a teenage girl, and Jacob's whole "imprinting" sub plot.
Fun fact (unless somebody else mentioned it): Jennifer Lawrence had auditioned for the role of Bella, with it eventually going to Kristen Stewart. I'd like to think maybe J-Law dodged a bullet staying away from these films, but I also think it'd be hilarious living in that alternate reality and seeing her go from muttering "It's like diamonds: you're beautiful...", to yelling "YOU NICKNAMED MY DAUGHTER AFTER THE LOCH NESS MONSTER?!".
8:10 Since having not watched these film in a long time, I actually didn't really understand this part and I actually thought he was going to die or something but as I've realised since coming back to watch these scenes, the Volturi's intention was to keep the vampire's existence a secret, I think it was so that Bella couldn't risk it so that Edward couldn't get killed which was also why she had to protect her father and keep him from knowing she was a vampire also.
But here's my question: How is it that the Volturi were trying to keep their race a secret when they also have humans as their servants?
I rewatch these movies as comedies and they do not disappoint
At least Robert made a huge comeback with movies like Batman and the Lighthouse
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 I also recommend "The Lost City of Z". He's got a supporting role in it. Good movie if you've got a thing for historical movie and jungle settings.
And there were even a couple of movies like Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer's Vampires Suck and Craig Moss's Breaking Wind that attempted to parody Twilight. Film Brain even did a Bad Movie Beatdown review of the latter.
I watched one of the Breaking Dawn movies with the RiffTrax commentary and I was in tears laughing though the whole movie
Let’s be honest: if anyone did what the guy did in the first movie, we would have a world record of restraining orders
"Could it be there was something that was legitimately intelligent?"
James Bond and I just screamed "NO" at the same time
Benoit Blanc, actually
Funny Story - my husband has a lot of friends in the indie publishing circle. Many of them took university level creative writing classes from the late David Farland, who is a bit of a legend in the SFF author community. He taught the likes of Brandon Sanderson, who in turn took over the class when Farland retired.
Anyway, Stephenie Meyer was another famous name who took Farland’s class. And during the whole Twilight craze, Dave was known to have mentioned to several of his other students (who my husband knows) that Meyer was a C student at best.
Then again, she is a C student who sleeps on gold bars and can wipe her ass with $100 bills. So she definitely did something right. Wasn’t the writing, though.
Can you imagine if Edward Cullen looked as old as he was supposed to be. Imagine his scenes with her as a very elderly man. Weird how so many people just turned their brain off and think because he looks young nothing is weird about it.
One thing that I find the most hilarious about Twilight is how, over this past decade and a half most of its fans have abandoned it. They ridicule just as hard, if not harder than those of use that disliked it from the beginning. Why? Because they grew up and realized it's romanticizing an extremely toxic and abusive relationship between an unstable teenager with no agency or self preservation and a literal predatory stalker more than twice her age and constantly shows controlling, degrading and manipulative behavior.
Way more than twice, she's 17 he's 104.
@@Vaquix000 "More than twice" does in fact mean any amount more than twice.
@@jbwarner8626 Harry Potter books are still good but those Robert Galbraith ones are just ugly
For me the tragedy of Twilight Saga was always its wasted potential. I mean, literally every single not-main character is more interesting than the leads, and most of them also have better romantic plot lines, too. My absolute favourites are Alice and Jasper, two separate tragedies that united in a wonderful love story, but others, like Carlisle and Esme or Rosalie and Emmett could be interesting, too, much more interesting than Edward and Bella. Most of the wolves are kinda better than Jacob as well… There are so many actual tragic and touching stories hiding within Twilight, but they chose to follow an angsty, awkward and kinda toxic teenage romance…
I remember your old videos talking about this and saying how it was the worst love story ever. Definitely the times have changed but at least we seem to remember how bad the books and the movies were and how the media made fun of the love story between a girl, a vampire and a werewolf.
I’ve come to the conclusion that the old nc is dead and has been replaced with this kinder gentler version lol
It does make a nice bar joke 😆
@@anthonycerulli1423 Well I got to say he's not truly dead but has become nicer in his newer videos.
Worth noting that in his relatively short film career, Michael Sheen has played a Werewolf, a Vampire, an Angel, a Robot, and a Computer Program.
Edward’s spirit doesn’t actually appear to Bella, she legit hallucinates him because she’s so obsessed with him. I only know this because I made the terrible mistake of reading the book. Honestly, though, I don’t blame Doug for not knowing because the movie doesn’t explain this at all.
In the book Edward also says this: “Goodbye Jacob. My brother, my son”.
The Woody clip popping up now and then in the review was just hilarious! 🤣
I bout pissed myself with the Shaun of the Dead clip
Man, I remember when this was what everyone was talking about in middle school. All of my friends and I were reading the books, watching the movies, wearing the shirts, and partaking in the whole Team Edward vs. Team Jacob debate. Man, just talking about the Twilight movies makes me feel old.
I can't deny that I loved these movies when I was younger. I read the first book before the series blew up and I was right along with everyone in the craze.
I find it funny that Bella was mad about Jacob nicknaming her daughter "Nessy", meanwhile if her baby was born a boy, she said was going to name him EJ or "Edward Jacob". Renesmee dodged a massive bullet being born a girl because otherwise, as a boy, he'd forever be associated with his mom's stupid teenage love triangle.
Bella is clearly delusional.
Can we take moment to appreciate this channel and that intro and all the people that work on it it's always a blast to come her and just talk about movies and stuff love you guys