Saving Your Saves With Clubs in Debt
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2022
- YO WATTUP IT’S ZEALAND BACK WITH ANOTHER SAVE YOUR SAVES YO. I figured I needed to use a nice, old-school TH-camr intro for once. It felt right. This month we got hit with a bunch of different people struggling financially in Football Manager, they had taken on massive debt to get to the level they reached, but how do you get comfortable and not have a meltdown? A lot of things, I should probably make more guides on money in FM.
This will have to do instead. Winning certainly helps though, and usually not winning and financial struggles go hand-in-hand. This means this Save Your Saves is all about the same stuff as the past ones too, it is full of tactics guides, scouting guides, training guides, transfer guides, wonderkid guides, all the good stuff. That is a lot of guides. I think at least one of them is a tutorial, but who can be sure.
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That second tactic is wild, focus through the middle when the only player there is a BWM, look for overlap with a full back on support behind a winger on attack
Considering they are a player since CM4 maybe its a tactic that was broken in an older version of FM
It works most of the games. For example i continued before this video and got to January with the same formation. There is 3rd striker that was injured maybe when I send this who looks amazing it just was further down in the picking order. I get a lot of goals from the 2 mezzallas and the wingers but not nearly as many from the striker. The problem is I end hitting a bad run of form in the league. Had 4 losses in a row. Then I'm back and so on.
@@iulian-mariustordea8359 mid season fatigue might be causing that too. Or check the analysis tab and see if you are particularly weak against certain formations. From what I have seen if the AI finds out that you're weak against a certain tactic, they basically adopt it en masse against you
I normally have set up a tactic with very few team instructions, the few instructions i give is to set a general playstyle i want my team to play. A lot of the instructions i use during gameplay and i really think focus play shouldn´t be ticked from the beginning but is a good tool if you need to break a team. I don´t understand why people need to over complicate stuff like this. Even in real life football i am an advocate for this approach because i think a team is easy to shut down if they aren´t flexible enough in their setup. I hate managers that just have a Plan A and never change stuff even if the opponents figured everything out
Yes it was a broken tactic in past fms. Workings through the middle while having wingers or wide oriented minded players exploited one of the match engine's "bugs"(don't know if it's an actual bug ) and during highlights basically there will always be a mega overload either in the middle or on the wings. In this case with the IW on the right he wanted the overload on the left wing and the central overload with mezzalas and fb on support on the far right offensive line.
With that Chester save I would honestly just say sell Iyoha, you can definitely get a far better striker as a championship club
Just like to add to the first one.
If the release clause is set in contract 2mil and he's wanted, if u don't have budget for new contract without release clause offer him out to the teams that want him for 1.9 mil with a 50% sell on clause. I had a player on a free in fm20 PSG were interested so knew he would leave.
So sold him for 2.1 mil+ 50% 100k under release clause long story short 7 years later he was sold for 130 mil. 65 for me for a free transfer who only played 7 times. He was a wonderkid. The 50% Sell on clause is a must. I missed out on 20 mil for Arezo as I just allowed him to leave for his release clause.
You will lose talented youngster at the beginning of these saves but it's a Marathon not a sprint.
Counter point, the players I sell basically flop all the time in their next club getting released consistently instead of being sold for good money. Idk wtf is going on but I have started not to care about the sell on clause because of that experience
@@miraclemaker1418 I usually only do it for my best players who I know will succeed. There's also the cash in early option may not get a huge return but still something.
@@chrisfmjesusmountsteven6146 Think it's really only the 10-15 year one club saves where this pays off.
As a Union Berlin Legend all I’m gonna say is MATIAS AREZO, sold him to Bayern for 62 million at 20, bought him back at 23 for 21 mil, went on to score 198 bundesliga goals in 223 games became a legendary striker won us the League 3 times the champions league twice and 5 DFB Pokal.
@@TD14AH Nice. I thought about getting him back but there were bigger fish interested so he preferred those options.
“Union is secure” from having played them in FM19 I know for a fact that they are secure because of investments from their board and not from their gate receipts.
Belgium is definitely a league with big wage expenditures relative to actual club incomes, unless you are getting regular Champions League money you will struggle for cash in Belgium
This makes me want to start a save in Belgium. I like the idea of having to generate income based on being a sort of feeder club. Get players in cheap and sell.
@@James-de2hp I had a Tess Sport save in FM21 (the team that's closest to me on that level) and had a blast.
@@James-de2hp I have an fm20 save as Genk, focused on U18 recruitment and development from the academy. The Belgium league has a final playoff round among the top teams that halves the point totals, so it makes it a LOT harder to coast through the final games off a large point gap in the league. Rules are really forgiving and citizenship is relatively quick. Definitely recommend any Belgium start!
@@williamcross210 funnily enough I managed to get the affiliation with Brighton reversed since I was getting CL football and Brighton got relegated to the championship. Though the best season I had in that save was my first season as USG, had a completely invincible season winning the pro league B(fm2019 remember) and the Belgian cup. A truly invincible season.
Damn I just managed to win the Champions League in 2025 with USG, slapped Manchester United 2-0 in the final(even with my star striker missing a pen lol), meanwhile I lost the Belgian cup final just 2 weeks before that CL final lmao
@@brother282 The same rules apply for the amateur league, which is cruel, since there is one (!) promotion spot.
once i bought a young player and made him the top goal scorer in the league but still wasnt able to sell him. He didnt have great attributes but i mean how somebody wouldnt want to buy the top goal scorer of the league while being a youngsta too.
it was the turkish league if anybody wondering
This makes me remember the one time I poached a japanese wonderkid, dude had killer attributes, season after season scored 25+ goals, always was between the top 3 goal scorers, but no club made offers to him and the Japanese National Team never called him. Like, my guess for the former is that he had such a meteoric rise to glory that he went from nobody to too expensive for any club to afford in a extremely short amount of time, which... Alright I guess, but the latter still bugs me to this day. Like, c'mon Japan, you have this 18 year old beast of an attacking midfielder being amongst the top 3 goal scorers in the French League and you call the aging Shinji Kagawa over him?
Fm doesn't care about stats and goald from my time playing. My striker won the European golden boot because he was a 7ft freak but as his attributes weren't good he never got a holland cap
@@jayfragamez2090 sounds like one of my strikers scoring 50 goals in all competitions and not winning the ballon d'or
From what I understand, teams need time to scout your player so you won't receive offers immediately
@@natsudama4604 This happens IRL quite regularly though. The Balon D’or is NOT a goalscoring award.
One thing that helped me getting healthy financially in a lower league that doesn‘t pay out much money without selling everyone, is friendlies. I sceduled friendlies every week it was possible. Obviously i would only choose to play matches which would make me some cash. And like that i managed to make around half a million Euros in one season. I only played the U19‘s and players i had on trial in those games. And that was completely fine. I still got decent player developement and it did some young players a solid. Also it was Good for getting players to learn new positions. Just a win win way to make some money in this game.
the trialists get a whole new meaning.... interesting! I always use the pre-season to get income and wreck good teams, because of a dude who´s salary demands are 10x my budget.
This is what we call a pro gamer move
Quick! Don't let Liege's board sell your facilities to keep afloat! If there is one thing that I'm scarred from in FM 22 playing in Belgium it's that.
In FM can your club get liquidated like without you doing anything stupid the board get the club in administration and fire you at the end of the season +selling most of your players
Thank you for making these videos, i have learned so much about the mechanics of the game and how to change to best suit my team's situations from watching these SYS videos
Brilliant sys as always! Would like to ask if you had any insight on the differences with the touch version on switch as well as tips, as I’m unable to afford a laptop or pc atm so only have the game on switch - but keep up the great content!
I love how you changed it up a bit to have a more focused video so someone can come click on it for advice when they are struggling with their save
u r nice at this game i like u and enjoy your videos, you look like a very good hearted person too hope u live a good life much love
My favourite series of all the FM content out there, as always, this was great!
i must say as someone who didnt really get your content at first (im usually into the big careers builds). The editing and charisma is aswesome and youre quickly becoming one of my favourites to watch
I interviewed for a job at French club in National League, that was in terrible shape financially. I was offered a $0 wage budget! Unfortunately I asked for an increased budget and, because of that, didn’t get the job. I would have loved to see how the club copesd with a zero wage budget, so pretty bummed I didn’t get to find out.
These are always fun. Great video. Always tempted to slip one of my own saves in here for a laugh… yeah just a laugh… 👀
Class content as usual Z!
For the first save, I'd probably sell Bollen for around £4-5m with a 50% next sale gain clause. That'll bring in around £15-20m in a year or two when one of the big boys realises he's a gem after either Dortmund or Sevilla have signed him
That is so important, most people are angry because they cant get much money from a sale (reputation etc) but if you have a gem, bring in a sell on clause. I had to sell an absolute wonderkid for 15 mil, at Olympique he was worth 80 mil instantly, they sold him on for over 100 mil and i got a big share of it.
Lollujo is currently rocking a target forward with 5 jumping reach in his Tour de France Series so 9 should be fine xD
Tips for keeping finances decent-
Get loanees for 0 wages or low % of their wages, these are better as rotation players though, you want your core ideally to be contracted players who have some room for improvement
Don't give big appearance fees or bench fees, instead swap them with performance bonuses such as goals, assists, clean sheets
Use sell on fee percentages when negotiating for players that you probably wont ever sell, EG. if you get someone whos 29+ for 1 or 2 season, they can be given 50% sell on fee in their contract, this will get their wages down
Dont have coaches or scouts etc that earn too much money
Pre-season, try and play away games against the teams who will give you the biggest fee
Get rid of deadwood, fast. Even if it means offering them out for 0. get them off your wages, failing that loan them out and try and recoup some of the wages
Release most of your youth intake... controversial BUT most of your intake is usually terrible, just keep the best ones and release the rest, if you're paying 20 youths 150pw in english lower leagues, this is 3k per week you're spending on a bunch of players that will never do anything, you could use that 3k to get a few first team players..
And for me most important, DO NOT HAVE A LARGE SQUAD. this wastes wages, increases training work loads and increases the chance you will have unhappy players because well, the more players you have, the more players will not be getting game time...
A zealand video in the first 2 min 😃
Today is my day.
Briljant! I was looking forward to learn a thing about finances! 😎
Ah, this is the first FM I haven’t played in 18 years because my laptop broke and watching your vids make me want to scratch that itch haha
I played 3 upfront in a save and it worked really well! It was a 3-4-3 mainly dictated by the players I found…even my LM and RM were converted strikers! Consistently got over 100+ goals from my forwards so the rest of the team only had to defend reasonably well for me to win
I can't even use 2 strikers in my save because i concede many goals with it
I lost the champions league semi finals by trying to innovate and use 2 strikers at home and got scored 2 goals in 30 minutes 🥲
Maybe my other players are trash, who knows
Haha! Gegenpress with 3 forwards works!! 2 pressing forwards with an advanced in the middle! My team was ridiculously tall aswell, it wasn’t planned, but my smallest player in the team was 6 foot 1…so I never conceded from set pieces, and obviously scored a few!!
If your team is overpowered ofcourse a 3 striker tac works. Not so much if you are like a sub top team.
Is that a 343 flat?
@@miraclemaker1418 yes
This video could not have come at a more perfect time
love these kind of videos
On the RCF Liège save, that's mostly down to SI games not putting any effort into the Belgian League/Nation (for a couple of years now). The whole financial situation is non-existent (certainly feels like they haven't bothered checking anything up) and it gets even worse going one or two leagues lower.
Not that Belgium should be an easy league... but the financial situation is played out worse than it should. Probably exacerbated by to the poor income from attendance and rather slow/unrealistic attendance growth/drop.
In all honesty you're better of playing most other leagues or tweak the league to be a bit more closer to realism.
I also have a liege save and the finances are horrific. In my experience you either need to cheese away friendly matches with big clubs during the season, or get into Europe
By offense you meant attack right? :P Just messing with you - love this series or type of video very interesting.
I live and breathe for these videos
Zealand calling 17 year olds studs never ceases to crease my abdomen😂🤣😂🤣
I enjoy these videos
That intro song is a classic
You should be allowed to change the tactic and play a match in these! put your money where your advice is
The timing...
My current save I'm 3rd season in the 1st league and still 0 transfer budget and ever expanding debt.
I wonder how you would get on with the Gibraltar challenge? I think that would be a REAL test of your skills!
i was wonder if the league improves does the prize money start distributing in different league positions?
It's not impossible to make a 3 striker formation work, I've managed a league and UCL using one and a couple of league cups in the few seasons I used it before changing. I did have 2 world class strikers and a good 17 year old up top and a solid defence with good depth to make up for the lack of bodies further back which is something a second division team can normally say
3 striker formations can absolutely work. False 9 and a DLF flanking an AF is fine. Especially if you tell the wide forwards to mark the fullbacks. But not the kind of 3 forward system he was running. That tactic was a FM18 exploit tactic. It got crushed years ago.
Im still on fm16 but what i do if a club is in debt is sign high value free agents/pre contracts and keep them out the team from summer to winter window. They get pissy due to lack of football and sell for value/slightly under it in January. Profit every year.
How do you have the average positions showing whilst in game?
Up until the "freedom units" joke, this is (again) the best intro ever!!!!
Great video as always. How do we submit our saves?
join his discord.
Join the Discord, subscribe on Twitch
I wonder if Zealand will do SYS live again
what i do in my fm is I sign all them high potential wonderkids, loan em for a couple season then sell them for a sizeable profit
I generally need to send my save in in national league north £1m in debt but had 4 back to back 1st’s and a play off final win last season
target man+ poacher works wonders for me. but they of course have to be good at that role. your target man must be able to jump...
0:31 The Liege was pretty good
Been playing as Red Star FC myself, and I’ve been asking for a senior affiliate from day 1. The board always says “ok sounds great” and then comes back saying they couldn’t find anyone.
I read the 1 star 17 year old as a player with 1 star abillty and didn’t know how the hell he’s worth €17m
Dat target man ^^
"For 10k??? That's business" 😂😂😂
So I'm in English 5th division and I've asked for senior affiliate about 5 times and get denied. The owners are saying they want to be independent. Any way around it?
Takeovers, or change clubs
That first guy is literally Everton the year we got and sold Rooney 😭
Think Kev may need to watch this video in about two weeks
Being in debt is really scary.. until the chairman pulls out a million dollar loan out of nowhere
How can i get a senior affiliate? I have requested multiple times throughout my save, and every time, the board comes back saying they couldn't find anyone suitable
Your club reputation isn’t high enough for any senior clubs to want you as an affiliate
@@SimersFM thanks mate. I am only 'National' reputation in the Welsh league. Was hoping that England would count and I could get an affiliate from the Championship, or even Scotland.
I will ask for an affiliate when I manage to get to 2 and a half. Should be soon as I regularly in Europe now, albeit Conference league and 1 run into the Europa league round of 16
Always use next sale clauses
I want to see Zealand save a save in administration!!!
is there a way to expand fans? is there a hidden potential limit for attending fans to the matches. I cant even fill in CL games which is crazy and unrealistic
Similar to Manchester city irl
Winning and time, the more you win the attendance numbers will slowly climb
shout out to red star gang, one of my favourite FM21 saves. we overhauled PSG and you can too!
Z we need more SYS!!!!
Is there any way you can increase attendence at your home matches?
play attractive football
How do I submit my save?
Yo Z, do the contract thing again … all my players want ridiculous wages
Doing well with clubs from smaler leagues is broken. There are is max value your players can have. So as someone how enjoy playing Norway. The whole league get vacuumed for players and the board okays sales way below actually worth
Can you please make a soccer manager 22 video for please
I have a question. What does it mean when your transfer revenue is increased to 90%? Is it a good thing or bad
It means when you sell players, you get 90% of the transfer fee returned into the transfer budget
Can I send my FM21 save?
Hello you sholud make a vidoe with oldmanphil😁
I wish I knew what ended up happening in these saves.
Does anyone know how to change the color on his tactics page @1:30 cant find any info on it on any skin sites. without having to install a full skin.
The color coding is from his skin.
@@SimersFM Thanks 👍
My club were almost 3 million euros in debt and being in the third division in Denmark… now I got a war chest of 215 million euros.
bro ffs i didnt know you could lock options in contract negotiations
i took my team from the Croatian 3rd league to winning the champions league 3 times in a row, and I still wasn't able to get more than 10 million for my star players, ruined my save as I just was unwilling to sell anyone for what was a 10th of their actual value
Maybe because either your club or league fame it's still low?
@@pauloa.7609 yeah, it was the league reputation, my team was ranked 1st in the world for multiple seasons
You should be able to negotiate up if the player is legit good. The value is partly determined by league but you should easily be able to negotiate offers up. Your doing something wrong
@@SimersFM nope, I had literally the best team in the world, and could not get more than 10 mil, when I sold him to a prem team he was instantly valued at 95 mil, and he wasn't even one of my best players, the league reputation was just too low
@@arw8719 your not doing something right man. I have played in Ukraine and Austria and easily can sell good players for $60 $80 $100 million
Hahah people have probably done this before, but pronouncing Lusitânia Lourosa goes like this:
Loosey-Tanya Low-Raw-Zuh
Why i am concede goals when i have the lead in 44+ minute before half brake and 90+ minute? is something i can do? or is the game like this? pls help boys anyone
No the game isn’t like that. Play more defensive and drop your backline back a little.
@@Eagles2020 thanks for trying to help but it happen again in 5 matches 2 times
Actually pretty much aced the pronunciation of Liège. Disclaimer: I'm Flemish, so I know French but my ear isn't as attuned as my native-speaking countrymen.
I love me some champions league money 💰
Disappointed there was no Loans this time around.
Somebody help me,send me tactics to help my team have a better defense,i play in xbox
Im trying ti get rid of ROnaldo as 450/week is a joke but the only way I can seem to is by tricking the AI to take him in exchange. Its not reralistic enough to me. More like a hack. Especially as they cant really afford the wages and dont really want him.
No way, my most recent save is on Liege too. That's so sick
Wait I thought this was clubs in debt
Ilove red star fc lmao
Save you saves without "Loans" .... sure fire sign of the impending apocalypse
Has anybody else found it really hard to get senior affiliates?
My games boil down to an infinite surplus value: Buy players for free or for less than 10 million and sell them for 40 to make money ....
I'm here for the loan song
You actually pronounced Liège pretty well
Yes, I was about to say the same
is that a knockoff Iceland shirt?
llloaaaaaans (didnt watch 1 minute).
Getting 2 easy goals from Lugano - its obvious the defence sucks.
I HAVE THAT KIT 😂😂
can you help me
-So this year we are fighting for promotion in second league
- Dude we have been playing it for the last three years
Don’t worry about finances. The AI is programmed to always unfortunately bail you out. Wether that is from cash injections, takeover’s or inflated, random and illogical offers for average players.
I have been on the same position financially many times over the years and it’s always the same. On my current save I’ve just received a bizarre £7m bid from AC Milan for a very average 18yo that doesn’t even make the starting 11 in the youth team.
A SYS without the Loans song? I feel cheated.
EARLYYYY
Its 5 am and I can't sleep
wow early for once
God damn the screen moving like that makes me nauseous.