You are right on the Crowley’s Ridge chert. (It’s pronounced with a long ‘o’ : kro- le-s. FYI ! I’m from that area) I agree with most of your identifying and you are definitely more knowledgeable about the materials! Great collection! I enjoyed watching.👍
" Speaking of Clovis" you just had to go and break them out didn't you! LoL, can't say as I blame you, I'd show them off too. That's a nice collection. It warms my heart to see those artifacts rescued instead of being lost to history. Happy hunting!
Thank you for the Paleo display and description. I have found a lot of Daltons in AR and MO. most of them being short in length, the long ones not showing up very often. Do you think the reason for Dalton lengths is that they reworked them so much due to damage and the availability of the matrial. They were particular about materials and would travel/trade over great distances to get them. Keep up your good work!
@@johnwagemann8578 my opinion on the size of artifacts is bc the abundance of materials. The places with more chert available have larger artifacts. The places with less poor quality stone have smaller points. That's why so many large items get found in texas and Missouri and Arkansas. And etc.
Nice I've found San Ps in the same layers as Daltons. Found 2 cached together in their first finished stage never used with no wear that had been stacked on top of each other with an orange flat rock on top I guess left for someone else who never retrieved them under an overhang 20 years ago. Found over 2 doaen daltons in that same layer within feet of them with a lot of used up San Ps as well. 5 feet deep. I'd wager Dalton people were making San Ps and vise versa
Sure the dalton and the Allen were sharpened down but that adds to the mystery you know if you havent used chemicals like on the points they can do blood residue and tell you what was killed .thhe McAfee clovis cache here in Colorado had camel and a few other critters blood on them!
@folsomblues2874 I have no idea how to go about testing them but I have read of it being done on several paleo finds myself I think it would be kind of cool to know but probably not cool enough to pay the cost .your collection is awesome I had several paleo finds in a collection that was taken all found surface no river finds here in Colorado a folsom a small yuma a stunning cody knife and pieces of several scottsbluffs and agate basin points once even finding a fire pit in the wall of a freshly carved off gully it was almost dark and I pulled a broken Plainview from the charcoal unfortunately this site was a long way from home I told myself I was going to go back but I never made it.i figure if I can find a clovis it would be a great day I've been hunting over forty years without even finding a piece of one .anyways once agian your collection is stunning and I greatly appreciate being able to see it thank you!
Nice collection. I'm just happy to see that you are handling those over the soft grass with your shakes😂 How many have you actually dropped and broke out of curiosity
Only 1!!!. And i was examining it over a leather topped table. Only dropped it from like 2 feet high and it broke. A killer birdpoint made from flattop chalcedony. Still heartbroken over it.
In regard to San Patrice points. The MO. and KAN. archaeologists while excavating the Big Eddy site near Stockton, MO. found San Patrice and Dalton points associated around a camp fire indicating similar ages for the two. I cannot remember the details you would want to hear. The documentation for this is very accurate.
@StirlingWorden yeah and then when you find multiple different variations of them you learn what they look like. I guess you don't know clovis can have about 50 different variations
@ I collect Clovis for the state of Florida and have my finds reviewed by many doctorates I’m a river diver and find mostly archic pieces I work for a state agency and only person licensed to dive in a river for the surprisenly most finds are in shallow water along the lime stone banks many finds found under graves in the hills above the river all no touch
Haven’t seen many museum pieces here on the internet I have some displayed in Florida state museum again I’m not a artifact hunter but a state employee doing his job Clovis is a short broad point fluted on both sides almost to the tip I’m not saying there aren’t variants but Clovis is quite a well made point and hard to find in contrast to archic points which are numerous thank you
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Nice artifact display
You are right on the Crowley’s Ridge chert. (It’s pronounced with a long ‘o’ : kro- le-s. FYI ! I’m from that area)
I agree with most of your identifying and you are definitely more knowledgeable about the materials!
Great collection! I enjoyed watching.👍
Nice collection man 👍👍👍
What a fantastic collection. I appreciate the explanation you offered on some of them. Happy rock hunting!
" Speaking of Clovis" you just had to go and break them out didn't you! LoL, can't say as I blame you, I'd show them off too. That's a nice collection. It warms my heart to see those artifacts rescued instead of being lost to history. Happy hunting!
Thank you for the Paleo display and description. I have found a lot of Daltons in AR and MO. most of them being short in length, the long ones not showing up very often. Do you think the reason for Dalton lengths is that they reworked them so much due to damage and the availability of the matrial. They were particular about materials and would travel/trade over great distances to get them. Keep up your good work!
@@johnwagemann8578 my opinion on the size of artifacts is bc the abundance of materials. The places with more chert available have larger artifacts. The places with less poor quality stone have smaller points. That's why so many large items get found in texas and Missouri and Arkansas. And etc.
Paleo beauties, thanks for sharing em😎😎😎
I used to find some really old points near Tamaha in Haskell County, but nothing like yours!
Awesome collection
Damn you have some nice old points! Very nice
Nice I've found San Ps in the same layers as Daltons. Found 2 cached together in their first finished stage never used with no wear that had been stacked on top of each other with an orange flat rock on top I guess left for someone else who never retrieved them under an overhang 20 years ago. Found over 2 doaen daltons in that same layer within feet of them with a lot of used up San Ps as well. 5 feet deep. I'd wager Dalton people were making San Ps and vise versa
@darkkingastos4369 so badass man. I'd love to see them
The Clovis from north Florida are fluted almost to the tip on both sides dern near perfect
Nice artifacts, many of miles in hunting them. Don’t you just love it👍🏻
I'm glad you shared some great saves
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Look up the drake cache from eastern Colorado agate basin most texas albeit material
The lobed base on the gray one could be a wheeler
Sure the dalton and the Allen were sharpened down but that adds to the mystery you know if you havent used chemicals like on the points they can do blood residue and tell you what was killed .thhe McAfee clovis cache here in Colorado had camel and a few other critters blood on them!
@@danielcline7413 haven't used chemicals. Haven't even washed most
@folsomblues2874 I have no idea how to go about testing them but I have read of it being done on several paleo finds myself I think it would be kind of cool to know but probably not cool enough to pay the cost .your collection is awesome I had several paleo finds in a collection that was taken all found surface no river finds here in Colorado a folsom a small yuma a stunning cody knife and pieces of several scottsbluffs and agate basin points once even finding a fire pit in the wall of a freshly carved off gully it was almost dark and I pulled a broken Plainview from the charcoal unfortunately this site was a long way from home I told myself I was going to go back but I never made it.i figure if I can find a clovis it would be a great day I've been hunting over forty years without even finding a piece of one .anyways once agian your collection is stunning and I greatly appreciate being able to see it thank you!
You gonna be at the show in Tulsa? We have some tables set up!
@@pointsnpoles4640 nope.
Nice collection. I'm just happy to see that you are handling those over the soft grass with your shakes😂
How many have you actually dropped and broke out of curiosity
Only 1!!!. And i was examining it over a leather topped table. Only dropped it from like 2 feet high and it broke. A killer birdpoint made from flattop chalcedony. Still heartbroken over it.
Folesoms are very distinct
In regard to San Patrice points. The MO. and KAN. archaeologists while excavating the Big Eddy site near Stockton, MO. found San Patrice and Dalton points associated around a camp fire indicating similar ages for the two. I cannot remember the details you would want to hear. The documentation for this is very accurate.
@johnwagemann8578 yep I'm familiar. Also in texas. They've found folsom san patrice hybrids.
Clovis is not waisted in any way and about 2and half inches long with fluting on both sides almost to the tip
No Folsom either
Folesom came before Clovis
@StirlingWorden no they didn't. Folsom came after clovis. . Clovis is 13,500. Folsom is 12,800
SORRY I DROULED ON YOUR DRILL.🤤
Ive donated points to the university of Florida for display in there museum
Dalton is earlie archaic none are fluted
@StirlingWorden wrong again lol. Many dalton are fluted. Cmon man . I've lost all faith you 😆
Everything looks earlie archaic none look paleo
U should know your flints or cherts
U find a real Clovis ull know it
@StirlingWorden yeah and then when you find multiple different variations of them you learn what they look like. I guess you don't know clovis can have about 50 different variations
@ I collect Clovis for the state of Florida and have my finds reviewed by many doctorates I’m a river diver and find mostly archic pieces I work for a state agency and only person licensed to dive in a river for the surprisenly most finds are in shallow water along the lime stone banks many finds found under graves in the hills above the river all no touch
Haven’t seen many museum pieces here on the internet I have some displayed in Florida state museum again I’m not a artifact hunter but a state employee doing his job Clovis is a short broad point fluted on both sides almost to the tip I’m not saying there aren’t variants but Clovis is quite a well made point and hard to find in contrast to archic points which are numerous thank you
Your Allen looks old
No Folsom either
The Clovis and Folsom in OK. Are later than the western types, the latest one Garrett found is a Barnes Covis. Crack out the books guys.