Hey up Jeff, thanks for your positive feedback much appreciated, they are worth the money, for the protection and the comfort, what do you ride and where in the country are you at ?
@@SIMONB1 I live in Texas so having safe yet cool and comfortable pants are a must. I've had many bikes throughout the years. Just got back into casual riding with an RE Interceptor 650. Nice bike for the money. Stay safe sir!
Hey up Vincent, you won't be disappointed, they are John does best selling product, thanks for watching and dropping a comment much appreciated, ride safe Simon B 😎
Simon you are costing me a fortune. I got the warm and safe base layer last year. Absolutely fantastic bit of kit. Couple of months ago I bought the Klim jacket. This is great as well so comfortable just like chucking on your casual jacket to go down the pub. Now it seems we will be looking at some new pants. 🙈🏍🏍
Hey up Andrew, you can't take it with you 😲, it may be a little expensive but it's really quality gear and will last , I've spent loads of money on crap gear, it's nice now to get something that feels and wears nice and this stuff does, get it bought 😎, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Hey up , it's a wonder you got a pair, seem to be sold out everywhere, new batch coming soon, they are there best sellers and that's why they are a great pair of pants, enjoy yours, thanks for dropping a comment, ride safe Simon B 😎
Hey up Graham, had mine on this morning, really comfortable and twinned with the marakesh jacket, just sublime, thanks for watching and dropping a comment, much appreciated, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Probably going to get some of these this summer, my issue with my current gear is I'm at an alright temperature when barreling along but if I'm stuck in traffic or just walking about off the bike I end up soaked through with sweat!
Hey up geshmaal, they are a great motorcycle pant, they don't flow as much air as a pair of Rokker jeans, but flow more than a textile and leather, it's the future 😲, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Came here for the jeans review, had to watch twice because I was distracted by the gorgeous spitfire. Wish they were available in the States. I bought the John Doe Taylor jeans which are great. I got a 32/32 which is my usual size and you're dead right, a 30 waist would have probably been a better idea. I'll be getting some of these Defenders following your stellar review, but probably in a 30/30. Now let me delve into some more of your videos. Keep up the good work
Hey up Richarama, woke up to this comment and made my day 😁, thanks for your positive comments, yes the sizing is in the large side, I'm sure you could get a CCM spitfire shipped over there 😎, ride safe, Simon B 👍
My KLIM Marrakesh is my favorite jacket so if you say these pants are the bomb I'm ordering them. And thanks about the sizing. I'll order a size smaller. Great info mate! Thank you.
Hey up Mark, reading comments below, it looks like John doe have sorted out the sizes, so buying a size down may not be correct now 🤔, you'll love them, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Well crap. I had ordered a pair already. Hope they fit. BTW I own the KLIM Marrakesh pants and highly recommend them mate. I also have the new Alpinestars Halo Drystar. Brilliant design and flows a lot of air too. Not as comfy as the KLIM Marrakesh, but as a second jacket those two are all I need....until the next lass catches my fancy of course. LOL
Hey up Mark, looked at the Marrakesh pants, but I own two pairs of riding jeans ☹️, so three would be a bit much ,Ive just got my gear to a minimum 😁 but will still be looking at them 😉, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Hey up David, thanks for your honesty, but they are the most comfortable motorcycle pants I've ever worn, and it's all about being comfortable 😎, Simon B 👍
Hi Simon - really enjoying your collection of videos on the CCM 👍 - joining the CCM owners club in about 5 months 😁 - just put a deposit on a spitfire 6..keep up the good work 👍
Hey up Neil, thanks for the comment much appreciated, bet you can't wait for the delivery, hopefully it will be better weather then 😎, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Thank you Simon... Ordered mine and now just waiting for them to be delivered.... Can't wait.... My leather ones are far too uncomfortable m, sticky,p smelly and hot!!
Hello! Thanks for your great video review… will definitely get me pair. As I’m in the US.. I’ll most likely order online without trying on first.. I’m 6 ft 195 lbs and wear 34/32 on jeans ..are they try to size? What would you recommend ?? Best!!
Hey up, the sizing used to be on the large side when I got mine some years ago, I believe that the sizing is about correct nowadays, but check with the reviews on where you might buy them from 😉, thanks for watching, ride safe Simon B 😎
I’ve ordered a pair of these, they look great and, as you say, have a triple rating. But, I don’t know if you’ve seen Bennett’s review and Hood jeans, both have done extensive research on single layer vs lined and both say lined are much safer. The triple A is a bit misleading. 👍
Hey up Jeremy, nice pair of motorcycle pants, yes I've seen the Bennett's test, they didn't test any of John doe, yes the lined are safer 😁but you might as well wear your textile pants or leather and not bother buying the lined pants as there are no benefits😁, hope you like them, I do, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 I was just trying to point out the safety claims of being triple A, which don't seem to be quite what they are claiming. The Hood jeans tests are maybe more informative. I received a pair of John Doe today, ordered a 32" waist as I'm a 34" but they're too tight, I've read the sizing is a bit hit and miss.
Hey up Jeremy, I've edited my reply it wasn't meant as a rant 😁, they tested roker jeans with the claim of AAA and they didn't fair much 🤔, having lined jeans is a bit like washing your feet with your socks on, bit pointless, I have single layer to keep cooler in summer, yes the sizes are a bit rubbish, mine are a 32 and could still go down a half size 😲
@@SIMONB1 I'm not trying to be funny or anything, a lot of the time I wear Levi's, and have just re-ordered a pair of John Doe. It's like everything out there in the world, claims that sometimes don't stack up. Hope these next ones fit! 🤞👍
I think some people's comments miss the point and they don't understand about the safety. Abrasion resistance is all well and good but most of the time the problems happen on the road when you hit solid things at speed. You can wear the most expensive airbag suit going and a £2000 helmet but often you will be hurt by impact. For me being comfortable in your bike clothing is important because all your concentration goes in to your riding. There are always advantages an disadvantages with all types of bike gear, but these trousers do look good for warmer rides
Hey up Chris, can't disagree there, same in the winter regarding electric heated clothing, it's all about being comfortable and safe, but to get both it comes with a price that others would rather not pay, each to their own, have you got a pair of these ?
@@SIMONB1 I haven't got a pair yet but there now high on my list, most of my riding I done in a halvarssons wien drop liner jacket and the laminated wish pant, but as good as these are above 22c they are too warm so I'm coming round to the idea of the marakesh jacket and these trousers for really warm days
@@chrisgibbs1615 the best combination either the John doe or the rokertech jeans and the marakesh, brill , get them bought, can't take it with you 😜, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Just come across your channel and spent a few hours watching you vids, some great reviews and maintenance….. 👍🏻😎 anyway back to the pants, guessing as we’re all getting older stretchy pants are the ones 🤫 reminds me of a Simpsons episode with his stretchy pants lol…. Keep up the great channel, all the best Steve
Hey up Steve, thanks for the kind words and glad you enjoyed the vids, is it called middle aged spread, or is stretchy is more comfortable 🤔, what do you ride ? , Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Bit the same as your collection, GSA, RD350, WR450, Beta 300 and the list goes on….. ride all disciplines tbh, yes middle age haha definitely
Nice presentation and I´ve had my eyes on these trousers for a while but will the legs fit over a pair of long boots? I never wear short boots, only my Side Adventure. Thanks in advance
Hey up karstenlund8956, now there's a question, I think I tried them on with my datona roadstars and the went over eventually, but cannot guarantee, they will always fit inside 🤭,give you an excuse to buy a short pair of boots 😁, thanks for taking the time to drop a comment, much appreciated, ride safe Simon B 👍
Thanks for the review Simon, we're thinking along the same lines I think, have the Klim Marrakesh jacket with base layers, a brilliant system and covers all seasons. Now I need a pair of these, look so comfortable, new materials being used in products nowadays are absolute game changers for biking, might just be an age thing for though, needing more comfort. do they cover a short boot ok?
Hey up Danny, they are great with a short boot, you can even get a pair of Dayton roadstars under them, must be an age thing wanting to be comfortable 🤭, ride safe Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1im young so i suppose i cant speak on the matter but my opinion is that you always want whats comfortable but when your younger you dont notice the lack of comfort as much or need it.
Hey up Wushuplayer, I found them to be a little long, I think they are sized to take in account ride up, so going for your normal length they should be fine, as mine were, hope that helps, thanks for dropping a comment, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Not yet, this is my first motorcycle season. Tried some jacket and jeans in shop but it was not comfy at all so I was looking on youtube and found you :) This jeans and the Marrakesh feels like casual clothes, very happy with it.
Hi Simon, great review. Hope you don't mind me asking, I'm after pair off summer riding trousers.If you had to choose between the John Doe cargo trousers and the the Rokkertech jeans,wich one would you choose if you could only have one?
Hey up Curno bullen, that's a difficult question to answer, just have both as I do 😉, both have features that the other hasn't, the jon doe are comfier but the rokker flows more air, so yes but both 🫣, sorry I can't make the choice hope that helps 😲, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Great review Simon. Saw your video and ordered mine online today! Can't wait for them to arrive. I think about changing level 1 protectors up to level 2. I also bought the new Hoodie V2. Also AAA in Security and so comfy. Love it already.
Hey up ivensdon2594, that's great news,you won't be disappointed with the pants, I had mine on last weekend, they are a joy to wear, thanks for watching and dropping a comment, ride safe Simon B 😎
Have a look www.urbanrider.co.uk/john-doe-xtm-hoodie-v2-black.html?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-5y1BhC-ARIsAAM_oKkGdeU7p-_OScC_jKuVJTveg9qWg2nJ6tZDTeugZhajIG5dT223KncaAotaEALw_wcB
Hi, thanks for greate review. The size chart of JD is a little mess for me. I'm wearing jeans W34 (same as you are) with waist of about 100cm. As per JD chart it stands for W34. At the same time W32 (or even W31) is comfortable for you? How come?
Hey up lazasakh, thanks for the positive comment, every manufacturer makes their products different, most euro clothing seems to be a size larger, snickers work wear I buy a size down, fjalraven same again size down, hope this helps, Simon B 👍
Great review. Wish I had seen this before ordering the past week. John Doe has two conflicting size charts on their website and the retailer said order as normal. I fear they will be entirely too large as indicated by your experience.
The problem with all cargo style trousers is that in the event of an accident, they will ride up and the armour will not protect you if a loose fit. They’ll have limited impact resistance and wont provide anything like the abrasion resistance of a proper pair of leather trousers. Many textile trousers are similar if at all baggy. There’s very few well designed non leather trousers on the market so bikers are sold short on many makes irrespective of cost. These look ok but how they’d protect in a spill is the acid test. I’ve noticed a worrying trend towards what is stylish or comfortable at the expense of their primary goal of protection. Abrasion testing can be deceiving. Do they actually test them fir resistance against riding up? That’s more a fit issue so logically they ought to be snug or they’ll be about as much use as a chocolate teapot albeit better than denims.
@@SIMONB1 Not if they're a loose fit Simon, as I'm a veteran of several accidents over 35 years and know all too well what the end result might be...been there, don't ever want to experience that aftermath again ;-) In fairness, they look a comfortable and well made trouser but I'd need convincing of their ability to protect in a spill before being tempted but thanks for the informative review. It might have come across as a bit of a rant but there's a serious point to be made 👍
Hey up Oktawiusz Dojlida, Jon doe must of got their sizes correct now on a different batch, as I take a 34inch Jean and the jon doe pants are 32 with a bit of room and stretch, all I can think is they have sorted out the sizes, thanks for dropping a comment, much appreciated, where in the world are you riding and what do you ride , Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 I'm in eastern Poland riding a pretty funny 125cc Suzuki RV. I found your channel because I'm looking for summer motorcycle trousers in cargo version. I want a single layer jeans and there is not much choice among civilian pants with pockets and sensible protection. I wonder how it is breathable in warm weather. The summers in Poland can be quite hot.
Because of the single layer , you do get air flow through the weave, the rokker single layer jeans flow more air through the weave, but it's better than wearing textile when it's hot, ride safe , Simon B 👍
Great video Simon I will have to put these on my Christmas list. I like the idea of wearing them all the year round but wondered how waterproof they are? Or do you have a recommendation for some waterproof over trousers to go with them?
Hey up Richard, the pants are shower proof apparently, you need a pair of Scott waterproofs- www.motolegends.com/trousers/scott-ergo-pro-dp-rain-pant-black.html they do a jacket that matches, best waterproofs money can buy, ride safe Simon B 👍
The fibre is treated for high surface tension so water will bead off. It‘s not a coating, you regenerate its „waterproofing“ with heat (i.e. a tumble dryer or a hair dryer). Works great for light rain, but nothing beats a proper rain onesie
Hey up Lorenzo, they are a bit expensive, but you get what you pay for, an investment fover a few years, works out cheaper than cheap stuff 😉, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Hey up alexutlang, that's not good at all, when I wear mine, I still think I could of gone down another size 🤔,with them being stretchy they still don't fit?, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Nice pants but pricey and at a max size of 38 they don't go big enough for virtually all the bikers I know, including me. A shame really as I liked the way the legs were thinner than most and stretchy, For some reason trouser manufacturers seem to think that if you have a bit of a podge then you also have legs like tree trunks , I hope they add some larger sized versions soon.
Hey up Mick, that's a shame as they are a great pair of trousers, get a email to them to ask if the sizing is going up , you never know 🤔, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Cheers Simon, the weather is lovely after a very harsh long and snowy winter. Today its around 27c during the day and it wont get dark until about August :)
Hey up, they have a bit of air flow, a rokker jean would flow more air, suppose they will be better than textile pants 🤔, I've worn them up to 27 degrees C no issues, they are comfortable tho, ride safe, Simon B 👍
A yup lad. Been through the extended process of choosing some motorcycle strides and finally plumped for a pair of these, direct from John Doe in Germany as I can’t seem to source a pair in UK right now. I’m bricking it hoping I’ve got the sizing right though. I went with my usual Jean size. Went Olive but thinking should have gone black
Hey up Dash Gordon, they will be fine 🤭, and you'll love them , they are a great pair of motorcycle trousers, , thanks for watching and taking the time to drop a comment, much appreciated, ride safe, Simon B 👍
SIMON B Hey Simon, just a question on size, I’m a very sexy 31 waist but you mention that they are much bigger than you would normally wear, is it worth me dropping to 30 or will that make me squeal?
Just got my defenders and I have to say that I totally disagree with the review. The pants are not stretchy at all, these are my first AAA single-layer pants, so maybe compared to other similar products they are stretchy and comfy, but they are way more stiffer than most AA two-layer jeans. And don't believe the sizing in the video, they are smaller the usual. I wear a 33 waist size on a rare occasion(with some brands) 34, so when I heard that they are larger I ordered a size 32 and they are narrow for me, maybe if they were STRECHY then there wouldn't be an issue. Maybe they are more protective, but I'm overall disappointed in the pants because when you read the reviews, a lot of people say they are the most comfy pair of pants they have. If this is comfy then my previous 2 pairs of jeans must have been made by GOD himself. Again - maybe because my previous jeans were two-layer and AA-rated. The knee protectors that are shipped with the pants are small, they barely cover maybe 70-80% of the knee. One positive is that the fabric is nice to the skin's touch, nicer than my previous jeans.
Hey up supersergej1992, supposed we are all entitled to an opinion 🤔, I find it hard to believe these aren't stretchy anymore 🤔, this video was made over 2 years ago and some people lately have said they are more true to size, but when I bought mine they weren't 😉, I would wash them first, as with snickers work pants I wash them before wearing them, I can't remember them being stiff when I purchased mine, i would say with all that negativity I'd be sending them back for a refund, instead of venting your frustration on my TH-cam channel 😁, i have no idea if they have changed manufacturer or even material supplier 🤔, give @johndoe a email and see what they have to say, mine are still the comfiest pair of jeans i own, there is one positive there so not too bad, thanks for venting, ride safe Simon B 😎
60 times stronger than leather means absolutely nothing when it comes to actual crash protection, it's the abrasion resistance which counts. Most of these items would be lucky to hit over 2.5 seconds in an abrasion test. Leather is still better no matter how all these companies try to spin it. Hell Bennets even proved this back last year with the abrasion tests. I'm sure you mean well and they are as comfy as you say but don't believe all the hyperbole these people come out with especially with regards to safety.
Hey up mattgb, you picking on me 😉, things are moving on as said, some textiles are better than leather, and soon will be better 😲, I like to be comfortable nowadays and safe, these new materials make that happen, it's the individuals choice, as in this country the law states you only have to wear a helmet 😲, ride safe, Simon B 👍
1:29 I wish people would stop repeating this ridiculous nonsense. No, they are nowhere near leather durability. Also, those D3Os, although comfy, are only CE1. In other news, RokkerTech are some of the poorer slide-performers even among motorcycle jeans, which any owner can attest after a slide. Watch Bennetts BikeSocial jeans test for more.
Hey up impact0r, they are as durable to leather, prob not GP racers leather 🤔, as the Bennetts review, jeans with armour together will give you stated slide time, then it's down to who you believe 🤔, thanks for watching the video and dropping a comment, guess you won't be buying a pair 😉, ride safe Simon B 👍
Who still wearing leather or textile in summer ?, These are a great alternative and so comfy 👍😎
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@@MotoManiac666 I'm lost dude, what u saying
@@SIMONB1 read that wrong. ma bad G
Really appreciate you Simon! Thanks to you I now own a pair of these fantastic John Dow cargo pants. I agree, best bike pants I've ever owned. 😃
Hey up Jeff, thanks for your positive feedback much appreciated, they are worth the money, for the protection and the comfort, what do you ride and where in the country are you at ?
@@SIMONB1 I live in Texas so having safe yet cool and comfortable pants are a must. I've had many bikes throughout the years. Just got back into casual riding with an RE Interceptor 650. Nice bike for the money. Stay safe sir!
Love the no messing review. I am now on the hunt for a pair.
Hey up Vincent, you won't be disappointed, they are John does best selling product, thanks for watching and dropping a comment much appreciated, ride safe Simon B 😎
Simon you are costing me a fortune. I got the warm and safe base layer last year. Absolutely fantastic bit of kit. Couple of months ago I bought the Klim jacket. This is great as well so comfortable just like chucking on your casual jacket to go down the pub. Now it seems we will be looking at some new pants. 🙈🏍🏍
Hey up Andrew, you can't take it with you 😲, it may be a little expensive but it's really quality gear and will last , I've spent loads of money on crap gear, it's nice now to get something that feels and wears nice and this stuff does, get it bought 😎, ride safe, Simon B 👍
I actually bought a pair of these after watching your video. Have to admit they're mint!! Really comfy. Cheers bud.
Hey up , it's a wonder you got a pair, seem to be sold out everywhere, new batch coming soon, they are there best sellers and that's why they are a great pair of pants, enjoy yours, thanks for dropping a comment, ride safe Simon B 😎
Just bought them, hoping for on & off super comfort. Will use for warmish weather dry riding
Hey up Graham, had mine on this morning, really comfortable and twinned with the marakesh jacket, just sublime, thanks for watching and dropping a comment, much appreciated, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Thank you, my good sir.
No worries, glad to be of help , ride safe Simon B 😎
Probably going to get some of these this summer, my issue with my current gear is I'm at an alright temperature when barreling along but if I'm stuck in traffic or just walking about off the bike I end up soaked through with sweat!
Hey up geshmaal, they are a great motorcycle pant, they don't flow as much air as a pair of Rokker jeans, but flow more than a textile and leather, it's the future 😲, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Thanks you so much for the review good sir! Been eyeing them out myself for a while now
Hey up bark industry, glad to of be of help, they are a nice bit if kit, just remember to buy the size down 👍, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Came here for the jeans review, had to watch twice because I was distracted by the gorgeous spitfire. Wish they were available in the States.
I bought the John Doe Taylor jeans which are great. I got a 32/32 which is my usual size and you're dead right, a 30 waist would have probably been a better idea. I'll be getting some of these Defenders following your stellar review, but probably in a 30/30.
Now let me delve into some more of your videos. Keep up the good work
Hey up Richarama, woke up to this comment and made my day 😁, thanks for your positive comments, yes the sizing is in the large side, I'm sure you could get a CCM spitfire shipped over there 😎, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Cheers lad. Good luck YouTubing. You got a good thing going
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Thanks for the sub, ride safe, Simon B 👍
My KLIM Marrakesh is my favorite jacket so if you say these pants are the bomb I'm ordering them. And thanks about the sizing. I'll order a size smaller. Great info mate! Thank you.
Hey up Mark, reading comments below, it looks like John doe have sorted out the sizes, so buying a size down may not be correct now 🤔, you'll love them, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Well crap. I had ordered a pair already. Hope they fit. BTW I own the KLIM Marrakesh pants and highly recommend them mate. I also have the new Alpinestars Halo Drystar. Brilliant design and flows a lot of air too. Not as comfy as the KLIM Marrakesh, but as a second jacket those two are all I need....until the next lass catches my fancy of course. LOL
Hey up Mark, looked at the Marrakesh pants, but I own two pairs of riding jeans ☹️, so three would be a bit much ,Ive just got my gear to a minimum 😁 but will still be looking at them 😉, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Mate, based on your positive review I'm going to buy a pair.
Hey up wolf Mann, when you get them you'll have to tell me what you think of them 👍, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Hey up wolf Mann, when you get them you'll have to tell me what you think of them 👍, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Simon, I'll be honest, I started off watching this thinking "what a load of Horlicks!!" but by the end I saw you your point, nice one.
Hey up David, thanks for your honesty, but they are the most comfortable motorcycle pants I've ever worn, and it's all about being comfortable 😎, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Fair play brother
Hi Simon - really enjoying your collection of videos on the CCM 👍 - joining the CCM owners club in about 5 months 😁 - just put a deposit on a spitfire 6..keep up the good work 👍
Hey up Neil, thanks for the comment much appreciated, bet you can't wait for the delivery, hopefully it will be better weather then 😎, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Thank you Simon... Ordered mine and now just waiting for them to be delivered.... Can't wait.... My leather ones are far too uncomfortable m, sticky,p smelly and hot!!
Hey up Chris, you won't be disappointed, compared to leather, these will be game changing, feed back when you get them, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Great video, more than enough info to make a choice…or not!! Tks!!😊
Hey up Michael, have you found a better product, please share 😁
Hello! Thanks for your great video review… will definitely get me pair. As I’m in the US.. I’ll most likely order online without trying on first.. I’m 6 ft 195 lbs and wear 34/32 on jeans ..are they try to size? What would you recommend ?? Best!!
Hey up, the sizing used to be on the large side when I got mine some years ago, I believe that the sizing is about correct nowadays, but check with the reviews on where you might buy them from 😉, thanks for watching, ride safe Simon B 😎
I’ve ordered a pair of these, they look great and, as you say, have a triple rating. But, I don’t know if you’ve seen Bennett’s review and Hood jeans, both have done extensive research on single layer vs lined and both say lined are much safer. The triple A is a bit misleading. 👍
Hey up Jeremy, nice pair of motorcycle pants, yes I've seen the Bennett's test, they didn't test any of John doe, yes the lined are safer 😁but you might as well wear your textile pants or leather and not bother buying the lined pants as there are no benefits😁, hope you like them, I do, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 I was just trying to point out the safety claims of being triple A, which don't seem to be quite what they are claiming. The Hood jeans tests are maybe more informative. I received a pair of John Doe today, ordered a 32" waist as I'm a 34" but they're too tight, I've read the sizing is a bit hit and miss.
Hey up Jeremy, I've edited my reply it wasn't meant as a rant 😁, they tested roker jeans with the claim of AAA and they didn't fair much 🤔, having lined jeans is a bit like washing your feet with your socks on, bit pointless, I have single layer to keep cooler in summer, yes the sizes are a bit rubbish, mine are a 32 and could still go down a half size 😲
@@SIMONB1 I'm not trying to be funny or anything, a lot of the time I wear Levi's, and have just re-ordered a pair of John Doe. It's like everything out there in the world, claims that sometimes don't stack up. Hope these next ones fit! 🤞👍
Definitely going to pick up a pair!
Hey up Johnny, top pair of pants, you won't regret it 😁, ride safe, Simon B 👍
I think some people's comments miss the point and they don't understand about the safety. Abrasion resistance is all well and good but most of the time the problems happen on the road when you hit solid things at speed. You can wear the most expensive airbag suit going and a £2000 helmet but often you will be hurt by impact. For me being comfortable in your bike clothing is important because all your concentration goes in to your riding. There are always advantages an disadvantages with all types of bike gear, but these trousers do look good for warmer rides
Hey up Chris, can't disagree there, same in the winter regarding electric heated clothing, it's all about being comfortable and safe, but to get both it comes with a price that others would rather not pay, each to their own, have you got a pair of these ?
@@SIMONB1 I haven't got a pair yet but there now high on my list, most of my riding I done in a halvarssons wien drop liner jacket and the laminated wish pant, but as good as these are above 22c they are too warm so I'm coming round to the idea of the marakesh jacket and these trousers for really warm days
@@chrisgibbs1615 the best combination either the John doe or the rokertech jeans and the marakesh, brill , get them bought, can't take it with you 😜, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Just come across your channel and spent a few hours watching you vids, some great reviews and maintenance….. 👍🏻😎 anyway back to the pants, guessing as we’re all getting older stretchy pants are the ones 🤫 reminds me of a Simpsons episode with his stretchy pants lol…. Keep up the great channel, all the best Steve
Hey up Steve, thanks for the kind words and glad you enjoyed the vids, is it called middle aged spread, or is stretchy is more comfortable 🤔, what do you ride ? , Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Bit the same as your collection, GSA, RD350, WR450, Beta 300 and the list goes on….. ride all disciplines tbh, yes middle age haha definitely
My garage is getting a bit full, nearly to a round figure of 10 😁, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Nice presentation and I´ve had my eyes on these trousers for a while but will the legs fit over a pair of long boots? I never wear short boots, only my Side Adventure. Thanks in advance
Hey up karstenlund8956, now there's a question, I think I tried them on with my datona roadstars and the went over eventually, but cannot guarantee, they will always fit inside 🤭,give you an excuse to buy a short pair of boots 😁, thanks for taking the time to drop a comment, much appreciated, ride safe Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Thanks mate. I will give it a shot as they look the part👍 Keep the black stuff down
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Hey up Bnjmn, Yes they aren't bad, do you have a pair?
you sold me , great review
Hey up George, don't think you'll regret it 😁, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Thanks for the review Simon, we're thinking along the same lines I think, have the Klim Marrakesh jacket with base layers, a brilliant system and covers all seasons. Now I need a pair of these, look so comfortable, new materials being used in products nowadays are absolute game changers for biking, might just be an age thing for though, needing more comfort. do they cover a short boot ok?
Hey up Danny, they are great with a short boot, you can even get a pair of Dayton roadstars under them, must be an age thing wanting to be comfortable 🤭, ride safe Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1im young so i suppose i cant speak on the matter but my opinion is that you always want whats comfortable but when your younger you dont notice the lack of comfort as much or need it.
Thanks for the great review. Do you know if the regular length trousers take into account the riding position, so you do get 'jack ups'!?
Hey up Wushuplayer, I found them to be a little long, I think they are sized to take in account ride up, so going for your normal length they should be fine, as mine were, hope that helps, thanks for dropping a comment, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Just bought them with Klim Marrakesh, thanks Simon.
Hey up Parmezanides, have you ride in them yet ?
@@SIMONB1 Not yet, this is my first motorcycle season. Tried some jacket and jeans in shop but it was not comfy at all so I was looking on youtube and found you :) This jeans and the Marrakesh feels like casual clothes, very happy with it.
Hi Simon, great review. Hope you don't mind me asking, I'm after pair off summer riding trousers.If you had to choose between the John Doe cargo trousers and the the Rokkertech jeans,wich one would you choose if you could only have one?
Hey up Curno bullen, that's a difficult question to answer, just have both as I do 😉, both have features that the other hasn't, the jon doe are comfier but the rokker flows more air, so yes but both 🫣, sorry I can't make the choice hope that helps 😲, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 No worries, thank you
Great review Simon. Saw your video and ordered mine online today! Can't wait for them to arrive. I think about changing level 1 protectors up to level 2. I also bought the new Hoodie V2. Also AAA in Security and so comfy. Love it already.
Hey up ivensdon2594, that's great news,you won't be disappointed with the pants, I had mine on last weekend, they are a joy to wear, thanks for watching and dropping a comment, ride safe Simon B 😎
What is this hoodie v2
@ThePresidentofMars it's a great bit of protective clothing, AA rated I believe, do fancy one myself 😁
@@SIMONB1 is that its full name is or their a brand name attached?
Have a look www.urbanrider.co.uk/john-doe-xtm-hoodie-v2-black.html?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-5y1BhC-ARIsAAM_oKkGdeU7p-_OScC_jKuVJTveg9qWg2nJ6tZDTeugZhajIG5dT223KncaAotaEALw_wcB
had a crash two years back at 100 kmph was wearing john doe stroker the outer layer tore but the Kevlar save me not a scratch body armour works
Hey up, glad you're ok after that fall , great pants tho, thanks for sharing, ride safe, Simon B 😎
Hi, thanks for greate review.
The size chart of JD is a little mess for me. I'm wearing jeans W34 (same as you are) with waist of about 100cm. As per JD chart it stands for W34.
At the same time W32 (or even W31) is comfortable for you? How come?
Hey up lazasakh, thanks for the positive comment, every manufacturer makes their products different, most euro clothing seems to be a size larger, snickers work wear I buy a size down, fjalraven same again size down, hope this helps, Simon B 👍
Great review. Wish I had seen this before ordering the past week. John Doe has two conflicting size charts on their website and the retailer said order as normal. I fear they will be entirely too large as indicated by your experience.
Hey up nick, not to worry, soon return them for the correct size, where did you order from ?
The problem with all cargo style trousers is that in the event of an accident, they will ride up and the armour will not protect you if a loose fit. They’ll have limited impact resistance and wont provide anything like the abrasion resistance of a proper pair of leather trousers. Many textile trousers are similar if at all baggy. There’s very few well designed non leather trousers on the market so bikers are sold short on many makes irrespective of cost. These look ok but how they’d protect in a spill is the acid test. I’ve noticed a worrying trend towards what is stylish or comfortable at the expense of their primary goal of protection. Abrasion testing can be deceiving. Do they actually test them fir resistance against riding up? That’s more a fit issue so logically they ought to be snug or they’ll be about as much use as a chocolate teapot albeit better than denims.
Hey up Paul, guess you won't be buying a pair then 😉, thanks for you input, or was it a rant 😁, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 Not if they're a loose fit Simon, as I'm a veteran of several accidents over 35 years and know all too well what the end result might be...been there, don't ever want to experience that aftermath again ;-) In fairness, they look a comfortable and well made trouser but I'd need convincing of their ability to protect in a spill before being tempted but thanks for the informative review. It might have come across as a bit of a rant but there's a serious point to be made 👍
Thanks for the review.
Hey up PK Lee, no problems, you getting a pair ?
Good review. I ordered a size 32 (normally I am 33). I step into the pants, but feel a slight pressure on the waist. I'll try with order 33 though.
Hey up Oktawiusz Dojlida, Jon doe must of got their sizes correct now on a different batch, as I take a 34inch Jean and the jon doe pants are 32 with a bit of room and stretch, all I can think is they have sorted out the sizes, thanks for dropping a comment, much appreciated, where in the world are you riding and what do you ride , Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 I'm in eastern Poland riding a pretty funny 125cc Suzuki RV. I found your channel because I'm looking for summer motorcycle trousers in cargo version. I want a single layer jeans and there is not much choice among civilian pants with pockets and sensible protection. I wonder how it is breathable in warm weather. The summers in Poland can be quite hot.
Because of the single layer , you do get air flow through the weave, the rokker single layer jeans flow more air through the weave, but it's better than wearing textile when it's hot, ride safe , Simon B 👍
Great video Simon I will have to put these on my Christmas list. I like the idea of wearing them all the year round but wondered how waterproof they are? Or do you have a recommendation for some waterproof over trousers to go with them?
Hey up Richard, the pants are shower proof apparently, you need a pair of Scott waterproofs- www.motolegends.com/trousers/scott-ergo-pro-dp-rain-pant-black.html they do a jacket that matches, best waterproofs money can buy, ride safe Simon B 👍
The fibre is treated for high surface tension so water will bead off. It‘s not a coating, you regenerate its „waterproofing“ with heat (i.e. a tumble dryer or a hair dryer). Works great for light rain, but nothing beats a proper rain onesie
THEY LOOK SPORTY!!!
I WISH I COULD HAVE A GOOD
BUDGET TO BUY THEM!!!
Hey up Lorenzo, they are a bit expensive, but you get what you pay for, an investment fover a few years, works out cheaper than cheap stuff 😉, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Thanks Simon 👍🏻
Hey up Scott, do you have a par or are you thinking of getting a pair ?
@@SIMONB1 I’m thinking of buying a pair and using your link😁. Leathers are just to hot to wear.
Subbed and good honest review
Thanks for dropping the positive comment, much appreciated, ride safe Simon B 👍
ordered mine recently based on this review. my regular pants are 32W so ordered 30. unfortunately the latest model runs true to it's size😢.
Hey up alexutlang, that's not good at all, when I wear mine, I still think I could of gone down another size 🤔,with them being stretchy they still don't fit?, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 it's very tight. Maybe it's good motivation to loose some weight 😂. Quality is very good though.
@@alexutlang just return them and get another size? dont see the problem here?
@@fd3s64 shipping it back is too costly for me. I'll just try to lose some weight as im 8kg over my ideal weight anyway 😅
@@alexutlang ahaa Ok, I understand! Diet is key and good luck!
Nice pants but pricey and at a max size of 38 they don't go big enough for virtually all the bikers I know, including me. A shame really as I liked the way the legs were thinner than most and stretchy, For some reason trouser manufacturers seem to think that if you have a bit of a podge then you also have legs like tree trunks , I hope they add some larger sized versions soon.
Hey up Mick, that's a shame as they are a great pair of trousers, get a email to them to ask if the sizing is going up , you never know 🤔, ride safe, Simon B 👍
great review !!! many thanks
Hey up si in Finland, thanks for watching and dropping a comment, what's the weather like out there at the moment ?
@@SIMONB1 Cheers Simon, the weather is lovely after a very harsh long and snowy winter. Today its around 27c during the day and it wont get dark until about August :)
@@Si_in_Finland sounds good, hopefully will be paying another visit next year to Lusto, for a few days, but it will be in winter so no riding 😁
@@SIMONB1 lovely part of the country :)
Excellent video, Simon. Are these hot to wear in hot weather, please? The stretchiness makes these attractive. Nick J
Hey up, they have a bit of air flow, a rokker jean would flow more air, suppose they will be better than textile pants 🤔, I've worn them up to 27 degrees C no issues, they are comfortable tho, ride safe, Simon B 👍
A yup lad. Been through the extended process of choosing some motorcycle strides and finally plumped for a pair of these, direct from John Doe in Germany as I can’t seem to source a pair in UK right now. I’m bricking it hoping I’ve got the sizing right though. I went with my usual Jean size. Went Olive but thinking should have gone black
Hey up Dash Gordon, they will be fine 🤭, and you'll love them , they are a great pair of motorcycle trousers, , thanks for watching and taking the time to drop a comment, much appreciated, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Nice review! Do these have a gusset at the crotch?
Hey up Chris, yes they do have a gusset, makes them a nice fit and comfy, thanks for dropping a comment, ride safe, Simon B 👍
@@SIMONB1 thanks for the reply! Gonna have to try a pair but 1 number down from my usual. Super helpful!
@@cblais19 had mine on today, they are a great pant 👍
Thanks
Hey up Farm Ind, glad I could help, ride safe, Simon B 👍
SIMON B Hey Simon, just a question on size, I’m a very sexy 31 waist but you mention that they are much bigger than you would normally wear, is it worth me dropping to 30 or will that make me squeal?
I went size down and fit great 👍
SIMON B did so and thanks again.
Hey up farm ind, you rate them then 👍, ride safe Simon B 👍
Anyone worn these in 35~40C weather?
Hey up nick, I've had them on in 30 degrees, that sort of temperature, they will be better that a pair of textiles 🤔
Just got my defenders and I have to say that I totally disagree with the review. The pants are not stretchy at all, these are my first AAA single-layer pants, so maybe compared to other similar products they are stretchy and comfy, but they are way more stiffer than most AA two-layer jeans. And don't believe the sizing in the video, they are smaller the usual. I wear a 33 waist size on a rare occasion(with some brands) 34, so when I heard that they are larger I ordered a size 32 and they are narrow for me, maybe if they were STRECHY then there wouldn't be an issue. Maybe they are more protective, but I'm overall disappointed in the pants because when you read the reviews, a lot of people say they are the most comfy pair of pants they have. If this is comfy then my previous 2 pairs of jeans must have been made by GOD himself. Again - maybe because my previous jeans were two-layer and AA-rated. The knee protectors that are shipped with the pants are small, they barely cover maybe 70-80% of the knee.
One positive is that the fabric is nice to the skin's touch, nicer than my previous jeans.
Hey up supersergej1992, supposed we are all entitled to an opinion 🤔, I find it hard to believe these aren't stretchy anymore 🤔, this video was made over 2 years ago and some people lately have said they are more true to size, but when I bought mine they weren't 😉, I would wash them first, as with snickers work pants I wash them before wearing them, I can't remember them being stiff when I purchased mine, i would say with all that negativity I'd be sending them back for a refund, instead of venting your frustration on my TH-cam channel 😁, i have no idea if they have changed manufacturer or even material supplier 🤔, give @johndoe a email and see what they have to say, mine are still the comfiest pair of jeans i own, there is one positive there so not too bad, thanks for venting, ride safe Simon B 😎
If they are 60 times stronger than leather why don't TT riders wear them?
Hey up James , great question, as I'm not a TT rider I can't answer that question, have you got a pair ?
60 times stronger than leather means absolutely nothing when it comes to actual crash protection, it's the abrasion resistance which counts. Most of these items would be lucky to hit over 2.5 seconds in an abrasion test. Leather is still better no matter how all these companies try to spin it. Hell Bennets even proved this back last year with the abrasion tests.
I'm sure you mean well and they are as comfy as you say but don't believe all the hyperbole these people come out with especially with regards to safety.
Hey up mattgb, you picking on me 😉, things are moving on as said, some textiles are better than leather, and soon will be better 😲, I like to be comfortable nowadays and safe, these new materials make that happen, it's the individuals choice, as in this country the law states you only have to wear a helmet 😲, ride safe, Simon B 👍
Looking for brand ambassador/affiliate Oppenhoorty
Hey up Wendy, your looking for brand ambassador, or are wanting ?
@@SIMONB1 email request from John doe
I have no email as yet, but can be contacted simonbvlogger@gmail.com
@UCFTlv1DlNR2GPtkK4jqcfJQ get that someone to mail me 👍 that would be great, thanks
1:29 I wish people would stop repeating this ridiculous nonsense. No, they are nowhere near leather durability. Also, those D3Os, although comfy, are only CE1.
In other news, RokkerTech are some of the poorer slide-performers even among motorcycle jeans, which any owner can attest after a slide.
Watch Bennetts BikeSocial jeans test for more.
Hey up impact0r, they are as durable to leather, prob not GP racers leather 🤔, as the Bennetts review, jeans with armour together will give you stated slide time, then it's down to who you believe 🤔, thanks for watching the video and dropping a comment, guess you won't be buying a pair 😉, ride safe Simon B 👍