the last trains to run on that line where class 60's hauling tank trains, gypsum trains also used to run along the line between Newark and staunton/gypsum works. These trains where hauled from the gypsum works to newark sidings a shunter. The shunter at Newark also used to collect trains from Newark sugar factory to Newark sidings where class 31's or 37's would collect the trains. part of the line has been turned into a cycling track and run to cotham bridge. www.philt.org.uk/BR/Shunter/i-wgDJKfd
I use to travel daily between Grantham & Newark going to and from work in the 70's. The line on the left at Newark joined the the Nottingham-Grantham line at Bottesford west of the village. When going home in the early evening I only ever saw Oil trains coming from the line, there were no passenger trains on it.
Brilliant, my old stomping ground while I grew up, loved the route through Selby, now the A19 Road North of Selby at Barlby, often think of my travels down that section of track in those days, when I drive the car on that section of road. In another Rail video, I've seen many years ago, the short tunnel before Retford, the narrator said the drivers in steam days use to change at that point on express trains for Kings Cross - Newcastle services.
Indeed, they were built with a slight slant to allow for a tilting mechanism to be installed. Alas, no tilting mechanism ever was installed in the end.
JDB158 I noticed you hadn't commented much recently. Glad to see you back. And thanks! :) Have you seen the previous two videos, both on routes in Scotland? :)
Hello Pete. I too am originally from Lincoln. I am hoping that someday a Lincoln area route scenario can be produced. Lincoln to Sheffield, Cleethorpes, Sleaford, Doncaster and Nottingham etc. However in response to what you were asking. On the left was a line approaching Newark Northgate Station. This came from the Grantham to Nottingham line at Bottesford. This line was closed in 1988. Hope this helps.
David Reid I would love to be able to drive to Lincoln in Train Simulator, so I hope that a route through Lincoln will be made. Thanks for the information, I wondered what that line was as I don't ever remember seeing it there. My first time on Newark station was probably going on holiday in 1990 when I was 3 lol xD
Peter, an absolutely first rate video, especially with your comments and personal tidbits. For me, it was a more interesting driver's experience than the 380 to North Berwick which seemed like look down a tube at the track with not much to do. Most of the modern corridor electric units are somewhat like that. Many thanks, Roger Crick
Looking forward to the Deltic railtour between Finsbury Park (Greater London) and Newcastle and return in early May and it will be passing this section of the route.
Excellent simulation, I love the Deltics especially when they ruled the ecml during the early seventies and the class 47-400s sometimes deputising for them. I model based on the ecml, however one could spend hundreds of pounds or even thousands and never get the realism of driving a train like this sim. Is the scenery based on generic scenery prodeced by the sim or is it actual terrain like some flight sims also how muvh of an invested in software To say create a fully working timetable (with all traffic slow & fast lines) with trains preceeding you and behind you like on the real system. Can the whole ecml be created from Kings X to Edinburgh for instance. I used to have the orig microsoft train sim was pretty basic no representstion of real track but vould download lots of locos and coaches etc but if I recall was only limited to the Settle Carisle line for the UK. Cheers
Wish I could get hold of this uniquely time set route, sadly it seems that Creative Rail has somewhat gone under, as the link provided no longer functions correctly.
The last time I passed through Doncaster by rail the coach that I was in was evacuated because there was a small fire in a waste bin in the end vestibule. The fire was extinguished by the time we pulled in to Doncaster but the carriage filled with smoke. Interestingly there were a couple of passengers who were reluctant to move.
You would be surprised how often that happens. I used to be a fire warden at a company in Scotland and the alarm sounded one afternoon due to a defective sensor. No-one in the building evacuated: one of the building's tenants had a team leader who rang their management team (in an adjacent building) and was told to keep working as it was "either a drill or a fault."
Luke Langlais That's a good question. The simple answer is that half the steam locos don't have a speedometer, and most of those that do require you to look outside to be able to see.. but they you can't see the speedometer. I can't drive without the HUD if I can't see how fast I'm going. I have considered doing a video in the Black 5 at some point, as I can actually see from the cab and there is a speedometer there too. But then the other issue is balancing steam generation and usage so as to not lose too much pressure. That's very difficult without the HUD I find.
It's just occurred to me, between the recent-ish RSC London-Peterborough route, this Peterborough-York route, the stock York-Newcastle route, and JustTrains' Newcastle-Edinburgh route, it's now possible for one to drive the entire East Coast Main Line. I wonder what that would be like for an epic journey. Might have to try it sometime.
HuntergreedGaming Thanks! That's a good question, there's plenty on the way I just don't know which order I will make them in. There may be another video before the Q&A yet :)
tractortomification Haha thanks! :) I run this through my PC, unfortunately Train Simulator isn't currently available on Xbox, though I hear that in the future a new generation of Train Simulators may be multi platform. So yes, this is all done on my PC :)
hi there.i wonder if you could help.some years ago I copied a deltic vhs tape called "all the way"to Betamax tape but long since gone.i have looked all over for the vhs tape of this or dvd but can't find it anywhere.it is a deltic carbide from I think kings cross to Scotland. one day I must save and have a deltic driving experience.thank you.
It's the AWS visual representation. If the last signal was green , then the display is all black. If the last signal was yellow or red , then the display is the black \yellow "flower" display
Crusher UK2013 Thanks! :) Unfortunately not, you can only upload scenarios for routes and trains which you can buy on Steam. As this route isn't available on Steam I won't be able to.
PTGRail Is there not a work around? Are we tied to the Steam monolith for all that Train simulator can provide for our entertainment. How about approaching Creative Rail? They may add it to their web site as free download section. As a result of this video I purchased the route. If it was pointed out the service you provided they surely would be interested attracting further purchases if a proper scenario was available too.
+LEVELCROSSING225 If you've bought it, then I believe you get a download link on the Creative Rail website? It's been a while so I'm not certain. If you contact them, they can definitely help you :)
lee the terminator Indeed some are preserved, but they were taken out of service before their time. I think by the mid 80s they were all out of service after just 20 years, having been replaced by the HSTs. A couple of years ago they brought one back in to service, hired from its private owner by GBRF for use on freight in Scotland! It's also been used on some ECS moves.
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No, I found that a very dull and uninspiring route/scenario although the scenery was great. This route/scenario would be much better suited to one of your Q&A videos, as so little happens in the driver's cab, the stops are few and the land is as flat as a tack.
Hurrah it's the deltic video I'm all giddy. It has been greatly anticipated and did not dissapoint well worth the wait thanks a gain PTGRail!!!
TheBarnem13 haha awesome! I'm glad you enjoyed this video :)
The train line which joins the east coast line just before Newark Northgate is an old Victorian line which leads to Bottesford, leicestershire
+Danny Palmer Thanks for the info :)
the last trains to run on that line where class 60's hauling tank trains, gypsum trains also used to run along the line between Newark and staunton/gypsum works. These trains where hauled from the gypsum works to newark sidings a shunter. The shunter at Newark also used to collect trains from Newark sugar factory to Newark sidings where class 31's or 37's would collect the trains. part of the line has been turned into a cycling track and run to cotham bridge. www.philt.org.uk/BR/Shunter/i-wgDJKfd
bluetrack rail That's very interesting, I use that cycle track every day on the way to college 😊
I use to travel daily between Grantham & Newark going to and from work in the 70's. The line on the left at Newark joined the the Nottingham-Grantham line at Bottesford west of the village. When going home in the early evening I only ever saw Oil trains coming from the line, there were no passenger trains on it.
+Sophie Jones Thanks for the info! I remember travelling on this route as a young kid in the early 1990s and I think that line was gone by then.
Brilliant, my old stomping ground while I grew up, loved the route through Selby, now the A19 Road North of Selby at Barlby, often think of my travels down that section of track in those days, when I drive the car on that section of road. In another Rail video, I've seen many years ago, the short tunnel before Retford, the narrator said the drivers in steam days use to change at that point on express trains for Kings Cross - Newcastle services.
You'll notice that the sides of Mk4 coaches, which were designed for use with the Class 91 are tapered to facilitate tilting.
Indeed, they were built with a slight slant to allow for a tilting mechanism to be installed. Alas, no tilting mechanism ever was installed in the end.
A very entertaining video; well worth the wait.
Silver Turtle Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! :)
I have been away for a little while, but I'm glad to say, I'm back!!! Great video as usual!
JDB158 I noticed you hadn't commented much recently. Glad to see you back. And thanks! :) Have you seen the previous two videos, both on routes in Scotland? :)
PTGRail I have, but haven't watched them yet, there in my watch later playlist!
Hello Pete. I too am originally from Lincoln. I am hoping that someday a Lincoln area route scenario can be produced. Lincoln to Sheffield, Cleethorpes, Sleaford, Doncaster and Nottingham etc. However in response to what you were asking. On the left was a line approaching Newark Northgate Station. This came from the Grantham to Nottingham line at Bottesford. This line was closed in 1988. Hope this helps.
David Reid I would love to be able to drive to Lincoln in Train Simulator, so I hope that a route through Lincoln will be made. Thanks for the information, I wondered what that line was as I don't ever remember seeing it there. My first time on Newark station was probably going on holiday in 1990 when I was 3 lol xD
If you have TS12 then go right ahead and choose whatever loco you want to drive
PTGRail there is most of the ECML in TS12 and the Doncaster - Peterborough corridor that goes through Lincoln
ploopy523 Its on T:ANE too! I never learned where Kings Cross is, and I always forget.
Peter, an absolutely first rate video, especially with your comments and personal tidbits. For me, it was a more interesting driver's experience than the 380 to North Berwick which seemed like look down a tube at the track with not much to do. Most of the modern corridor electric units are somewhat like that. Many thanks, Roger Crick
You mentioned a small tunnel on the approach inton Retford. This is called Askham Tunnel. Named after a nearby village.
David Reid Ahhh I should have remembered it! I knew I would know the name when I saw it again lol :p I just couldn't remember at the time. Thanks :)
Your welcome Pete.
Looking forward to the Deltic railtour between Finsbury Park (Greater London) and Newcastle and return in early May and it will be passing this section of the route.
Excellent simulation, I love the Deltics especially when they ruled the ecml during the early seventies and the class 47-400s sometimes deputising for them. I model based on the ecml, however one could spend hundreds of pounds or even thousands and never get the realism of driving a train like this sim. Is the scenery based on generic scenery prodeced by the sim or is it actual terrain like some flight sims also how muvh of an invested in software
To say create a fully working timetable (with all traffic slow & fast lines) with trains preceeding you and behind you like on the real system. Can the whole ecml be created from Kings X to Edinburgh for instance. I used to have the orig microsoft train sim was pretty basic no representstion of real track but vould download lots of locos and coaches etc but if I recall was only limited to the Settle Carisle line for the UK.
Cheers
Another great video :)
Moleman978 Thanks, Moleman! :)
Wish I could get hold of this uniquely time set route, sadly it seems that Creative Rail has somewhat gone under, as the link provided no longer functions correctly.
another interesting video pete
it must have been scary when you got trapped at that level crossing
The last time I passed through Doncaster by rail the coach that I was in was evacuated because there was a small fire in a waste bin in the end vestibule. The fire was extinguished by the time we pulled in to Doncaster but the carriage filled with smoke. Interestingly there were a couple of passengers who were reluctant to move.
You would be surprised how often that happens. I used to be a fire warden at a company in Scotland and the alarm sounded one afternoon due to a defective sensor. No-one in the building evacuated: one of the building's tenants had a team leader who rang their management team (in an adjacent building) and was told to keep working as it was "either a drill or a fault."
cool video really helped me do it in the HST.
Good video I discovered! I have to ask, what does the occasional Bell Ring mean? I and not familiar with British Trains.
excellent video! i was wondering why you never do any steam loco videos.
Luke Langlais That's a good question. The simple answer is that half the steam locos don't have a speedometer, and most of those that do require you to look outside to be able to see.. but they you can't see the speedometer. I can't drive without the HUD if I can't see how fast I'm going. I have considered doing a video in the Black 5 at some point, as I can actually see from the cab and there is a speedometer there too. But then the other issue is balancing steam generation and usage so as to not lose too much pressure. That's very difficult without the HUD I find.
PTGRail i see, thank you for the reply!
Newark Northwest is only used with east coast and east Midlands
It's just occurred to me, between the recent-ish RSC London-Peterborough route, this Peterborough-York route, the stock York-Newcastle route, and JustTrains' Newcastle-Edinburgh route, it's now possible for one to drive the entire East Coast Main Line. I wonder what that would be like for an epic journey. Might have to try it sometime.
If you do it, please record it and put it on TH-cam. Driving a class 91. :)
sirrliv Haha yes, we do indeed have the full East Coast Main Line in four seperate sections. 393 miles and it takes around 4.5 hours :)
siobhan28483 Once I have covered the Newcastle to Edinburgh section then I will have covered the whole ECML in different trains :)
you could do the flying Scotsman from london to Edinburgh
Kirkinstein This would be really neat with all these routes combined with portals.
And where are all the trains at York, empy platforms!
Great video again! What videos can we expect to see after the Q&A?
HuntergreedGaming Thanks! That's a good question, there's plenty on the way I just don't know which order I will make them in. There may be another video before the Q&A yet :)
I might get this route.
Is there a modern day version of this too? I think this route is awesome though
Our tame, Train Sim driving instructor :D
brilliant enjoyed that. do you run these programmes through a computer or xbox or something excuse my ignorance
tractortomification Haha thanks! :) I run this through my PC, unfortunately Train Simulator isn't currently available on Xbox, though I hear that in the future a new generation of Train Simulators may be multi platform. So yes, this is all done on my PC :)
hi there.i wonder if you could help.some years ago I copied a deltic vhs tape called "all the way"to Betamax tape but long since gone.i have looked all over for the vhs tape of this or dvd but can't find it anywhere.it is a deltic carbide from I think kings cross to Scotland. one day I must save and have a deltic driving experience.thank you.
pls tell me whats the green box withe black disc on on the cab pls ?
It's the AWS visual representation.
If the last signal was green , then the display is all black.
If the last signal was yellow or red , then the display is the black \yellow "flower" display
Is the modern route separate from this one would I need to have this one to run the Modern version? and is both versions worth the money?
I live in grantham not quite the same but not far wrong tho I would give that station 7/10
Do a video on Marsdonshire (Just Trains fictional) in a Class 153
GonzYeahGonzo I have considered doing something on that route, but it may be a while as there's quite a few other videos to make first :)
All these loco's want to make me play Transport Tycoon on my UK and Ireland game.
Good.............we don't want you to go up the North Jack.......you work for us.............think again Jack...............I will..........
Great video. Can you upload the scenario to Steam Workshop, pls?
Crusher UK2013 Thanks! :) Unfortunately not, you can only upload scenarios for routes and trains which you can buy on Steam. As this route isn't available on Steam I won't be able to.
PTGRail Is there not a work around? Are we tied to the Steam monolith for all that Train simulator can provide for our entertainment. How about approaching Creative Rail? They may add it to their web site as free download section. As a result of this video I purchased the route. If it was pointed out the service you provided they surely would be interested attracting further purchases if a proper scenario was available too.
Wow Celtic only weighed 90 tonnes?
I think they were more like 106 tons
How did you download this route. Ive bought it, but no download links or files have appeared on my computer
+LEVELCROSSING225 If you've bought it, then I believe you get a download link on the Creative Rail website? It's been a while so I'm not certain. If you contact them, they can definitely help you :)
there was nothing like getting hauled by the real thing, bashing 31s, 37s 40s etc. Given the option stuff this and take me back to the 70s and 80s
Absolutely!! This was the golden age for our generation :-)
+PTGRail I didn't get this route because it isn't modern does this bother you?
Eventful Evening It doesn't bother me if you don't get routes because they are set in the past. Why would it? :)
+PTGRail I prefer modern day routes like ones set after 2007
May i ask do the train still run or is it scrapped
There are still some preserved units running on heratige railways
Thx u gonz :)
lee the terminator Indeed some are preserved, but they were taken out of service before their time. I think by the mid 80s they were all out of service after just 20 years, having been replaced by the HSTs. A couple of years ago they brought one back in to service, hired from its private owner by GBRF for use on freight in Scotland! It's also been used on some ECS moves.
PTGRail That'll be Royal Scots Grey which is based on the East Lancs Railway, it was the only remaining mainline certified Deltic at one point.
How much is this route
AcTv TeMPeR I believe it's a workshop creation
+ploopy523 Nope , Its £39.99
Where was that route from just trains?
+Tim O'Grady This route is from Creative Rail :)
+PTGRail thxs :)
Id this route only available as a down load, or can it be obtained on CD?
I'm not sure, you would have to contact Creative Rail to ask them :)
OK thanks.
Ok maybe not at that price
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No, I found that a very dull and uninspiring route/scenario although the scenery was great. This route/scenario would be much better suited to one of your Q&A videos, as so little happens in the driver's cab, the stops are few and the land is as flat as a tack.
You need to get a proper mic, this one sounds like crap
captainspongebob123 I agree with you. Unfortunately finances aren't the best at the minute but I plan on buying one as soon as I can afford it. :)
captainspongebob123 Indeed, I have just purchased a new mic today, so the sound quality should be far better in future commentaries :)