The High Renaissance - Palestrina Versus Lassus

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  • We finish talking about the Counter Reformation and how polyphony was saved from being banned in churches.
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    Introduction (0:00)
    Aftermath of the Council of Trent (0:55)
    An Introduction to Palestrina (2:26)
    Palestrina's Legacy (3:30)
    Pope Marcellus Mass (4:11)
    How Palestrina got away with writing polyphony (6:51)
    An Introduction to Lassus (7:54)
    Spiritual Madrigals (9:05)
    Lagrime di San Pietro (10:23)
    Closing Thoughts (12:42)
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  • @jhummelgaard9310
    @jhummelgaard9310 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! Learnt a lot!!

  • @farahmohammed1963
    @farahmohammed1963 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wowwowow!! Fabulous video!! Thank you!!🌺

  • @TalesGomesG
    @TalesGomesG ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I named my first daughter Giovanna after Palestrina. To me, the greatest of his time.
    Great video!

  • @Tatlone
    @Tatlone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I LOVE that you give so much time to the music. Not only are we able to hear it in excerpt but the visuals add to the appreciation. Also, if you had been my professor in college perhaps the knowledge I did gain would not have left me as quickly.

    • @KeepitClassical
      @KeepitClassical  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I know when I was first getting into classical music that having a visual aid really helped me understand it better (even if I was still learning to read music). I wish I could take more time with each of the pieces!

  • @lloydbowers8997
    @lloydbowers8997 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When we sang Palestrina's Aeterna Christi munera, I knew I was hooked. When we sang Lassus's In monte Oliveti, I got hooked a second time. Reverent, worshipful music works on me like a drug, like endorphins.

  • @zoilam.b.8287
    @zoilam.b.8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So useful for our music students, I'll use it in my courses ! Thanks a million!

  • @RoyJNg
    @RoyJNg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for posting, I've always used Palestrina and Lassus in our church music because it adds the depth of the prayers and the liturgy itself.

    • @lloydbowers8997
      @lloydbowers8997 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please tell me where your church is.

  • @robertomonroy694
    @robertomonroy694 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome work.

  • @crow-kl9dm
    @crow-kl9dm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could you do a video on just intonation and how playing classical works in their historic tunings changes the sound of the music? I once met someone who had a historically tuned piano, and when they played a piece by Palestrina it completely changed my perception of his works, and I'd love to learn more about it!

  • @danawinsor1380
    @danawinsor1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If any two composers are equals in greatness, it would be Lassus and Palestrina. For me, Palestrina's music is among the most transcendent ever written. How much of does one attribute to talent and how much to inspiration? On one hand, music is a form of "design," in that one must learn the techniques of composition, which during the 16th century were incredibly strict and exacting. On the other hand, some music has a quality of the sublime that can't be analyzed. My list of the greatest composers of ecclesiastical music of this era would include Tallis, Victoria, and Clemens non Papa in addition to Palestrina and Lassus.

  • @michellelambert8749
    @michellelambert8749 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love Palestrina.

  • @WallisGoodman
    @WallisGoodman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video/these videos! I am a teacher of the history of art, and I'm wondering if you could help me with a simple exercise. In the world of art history, the art of the late 1500's and then 1600s, during the Counter-Reformation Baroque, we note that Catholic art changed in ways that made it more dramatic, in order to make the Catholic faith a more "energizing" thing. I thought that the Church had also sought to make the music of that time "more energizing" and dramatic. Might you be able to point me to two "quick" excerpts that might clearly show the "before and after" of these changes?

  • @isaiasramosgarcia3457
    @isaiasramosgarcia3457 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i prefer Victoria, supose because i am spanish, but the abulensis has always moved me more

  • @odradekdp8453
    @odradekdp8453 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:50 Petrarch is NOT the author of Le Lagrime di San Pietro. The poems were written by Luigi Tansillo (1510-1568). Lassus set to music 20 Madrigali spirituali, not 21; the last one being a motet

  • @maniak1768
    @maniak1768 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God, you can't imagine the sigh of relief when you denounced that silly myth of Palestrina saving counterpunctal music. It's still so widely believed, unfortunately. Palestrina's music is amazing enough without lazy pseudo-historical sensationalism. Well-done video overall!

    • @herrickinman9303
      @herrickinman9303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      _Contrapuntal_ music. Not "contrapunctal music."

    • @maniak1768
      @maniak1768 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @herrickinman9303 Oh look, the orthography police sees everything. My own mother tongue uses a k-sound in this adjective, as the Latin ethymology indicates. Please forgive a non-native speaker his ignorance of the fact that your language has made its very own creative twist on the Latin word, being translated into French, made into an adjective and then being translated once more into English.

    • @herrickinman9303
      @herrickinman9303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@maniak1768 Now that you know the correct spelling is _contrapuntal,_ you're little less ignorant.

  • @polyglot8
    @polyglot8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:30 One pronounces the "s" in the word (town) "Mons" (but not in the word - racing city - "Le Mans"). Confusing, I know - don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. BTW, De Lassus also likely spoke Flemish.

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think I know why Renaissance music died out.
    It needed more cowbell.

  • @nahim2261
    @nahim2261 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:37

    • @TalesGomesG
      @TalesGomesG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Papae Marcelli is a masterpiece

  • @herrickinman9303
    @herrickinman9303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    _Missae_ is the plural of _missa._
    "Missae papae marcelli" means "masses of Pope Marcellus." Surely, you meant "MIssa Papae Marcelli."

  • @jefflokanata
    @jefflokanata ปีที่แล้ว

    the subtitle cc are amusing . in 4:13 , "anus day" 😅

  • @sueco_r
    @sueco_r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly, I can't enjoy Renaissance music as much as I enjoy Baroque music, it's just too much for me, it's like a really fancy glass of wine that I can't enjoy because it's way more fancy to what I'm used to. I hope that the more I listen to it, the more I open myself to it, it's quality is undenyalbe, God Bless you.

    • @riverstun
      @riverstun วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love Bach, but he loved Palestrina. Suggest if you havent, that you listen to Missa Papae Marcelli. This work, Drains all stress from me from the very first notes. There are some other gems out there, Spem in Alium, Miserere, Parci Mihi.that are immediately accessible also.

  • @bifeldman
    @bifeldman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lots of good insights. The gratuitous attempts at cutesy wit generally miss and undermine your presentation.

  • @hamletsmill258
    @hamletsmill258 ปีที่แล้ว

    De Kerle wasn't Dutch, and what's with all the cut edits?

    • @KeepitClassical
      @KeepitClassical  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Allen Atlas describes him as a "Netherlander" on page 581 🤷🏼‍♂️ Probably could have been more careful with my description of him.

    • @mmneander1316
      @mmneander1316 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not Dutch in the modern sense of the term "Dutch". He is from the Low Countries (in the historical sense of the term "Low Countries").

  • @medievalmusiclover
    @medievalmusiclover 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Palestrina is the best.