The High Renaissance - Palestrina Versus Lassus

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  • @TalesGomesG
    @TalesGomesG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I named my first daughter Giovanna after Palestrina. To me, the greatest of his time.
    Great video!

  • @lloydbowers8997
    @lloydbowers8997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When we sang Palestrina's Aeterna Christi munera, I knew I was hooked. When we sang Lassus's In monte Oliveti, I got hooked a second time. Reverent, worshipful music works on me like a drug, like endorphins.

  • @Tatlone
    @Tatlone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I LOVE that you give so much time to the music. Not only are we able to hear it in excerpt but the visuals add to the appreciation. Also, if you had been my professor in college perhaps the knowledge I did gain would not have left me as quickly.

    • @KeepitClassical
      @KeepitClassical  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I know when I was first getting into classical music that having a visual aid really helped me understand it better (even if I was still learning to read music). I wish I could take more time with each of the pieces!

  • @farahmohammed1963
    @farahmohammed1963 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wowwowow!! Fabulous video!! Thank you!!🌺

  • @RoyJNg
    @RoyJNg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for posting, I've always used Palestrina and Lassus in our church music because it adds the depth of the prayers and the liturgy itself.

    • @lloydbowers8997
      @lloydbowers8997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please tell me where your church is.

  • @zoilam.b.8287
    @zoilam.b.8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So useful for our music students, I'll use it in my courses ! Thanks a million!

  • @jhummelgaard9310
    @jhummelgaard9310 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Learnt a lot!!

  • @robertomonroy694
    @robertomonroy694 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome work.

  • @crow-kl9dm
    @crow-kl9dm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    could you do a video on just intonation and how playing classical works in their historic tunings changes the sound of the music? I once met someone who had a historically tuned piano, and when they played a piece by Palestrina it completely changed my perception of his works, and I'd love to learn more about it!

  • @danawinsor1380
    @danawinsor1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If any two composers are equals in greatness, it would be Lassus and Palestrina. For me, Palestrina's music is among the most transcendent ever written. How much of does one attribute to talent and how much to inspiration? On one hand, music is a form of "design," in that one must learn the techniques of composition, which during the 16th century were incredibly strict and exacting. On the other hand, some music has a quality of the sublime that can't be analyzed. My list of the greatest composers of ecclesiastical music of this era would include Tallis, Victoria, and Clemens non Papa in addition to Palestrina and Lassus.

  • @zxbn4566
    @zxbn4566 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I see what you are doing with the books on the shelf behind you ...

  • @odradekdp8453
    @odradekdp8453 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:50 Petrarch is NOT the author of Le Lagrime di San Pietro. The poems were written by Luigi Tansillo (1510-1568). Lassus set to music 20 Madrigali spirituali, not 21; the last one being a motet

  • @michellelambert8749
    @michellelambert8749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love Palestrina.

  • @WallisGoodman
    @WallisGoodman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video/these videos! I am a teacher of the history of art, and I'm wondering if you could help me with a simple exercise. In the world of art history, the art of the late 1500's and then 1600s, during the Counter-Reformation Baroque, we note that Catholic art changed in ways that made it more dramatic, in order to make the Catholic faith a more "energizing" thing. I thought that the Church had also sought to make the music of that time "more energizing" and dramatic. Might you be able to point me to two "quick" excerpts that might clearly show the "before and after" of these changes?

  • @maniak1768
    @maniak1768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God, you can't imagine the sigh of relief when you denounced that silly myth of Palestrina saving counterpunctal music. It's still so widely believed, unfortunately. Palestrina's music is amazing enough without lazy pseudo-historical sensationalism. Well-done video overall!

    • @herrickinman9303
      @herrickinman9303 ปีที่แล้ว

      _Contrapuntal_ music. Not "contrapunctal music."

    • @maniak1768
      @maniak1768 ปีที่แล้ว

      @herrickinman9303 Oh look, the orthography police sees everything. My own mother tongue uses a k-sound in this adjective, as the Latin ethymology indicates. Please forgive a non-native speaker his ignorance of the fact that your language has made its very own creative twist on the Latin word, being translated into French, made into an adjective and then being translated once more into English.

    • @herrickinman9303
      @herrickinman9303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maniak1768 Now that you know the correct spelling is _contrapuntal,_ you're little less ignorant.

  • @toretenore
    @toretenore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cool video, thank you! One thought: Homophonic I would call Polyhonic but homorhythmical...

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think I know why Renaissance music died out.
    It needed more cowbell.

  • @joaquinpercusses
    @joaquinpercusses 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    John Peter Lewis LOLOLOL I can't wait to use it in the wild.

  • @NehemiahMatara
    @NehemiahMatara 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks
    What about Henry purcell

    • @billguyan1913
      @billguyan1913 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Purcell is terrific, but he's a different type of composer whose music is generally much lighter in character. and also from a later period.

  • @billguyan1913
    @billguyan1913 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's Pierluigi for me.

  • @polyglot8
    @polyglot8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:30 One pronounces the "s" in the word (town) "Mons" (but not in the word - racing city - "Le Mans"). Confusing, I know - don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. BTW, De Lassus also likely spoke Flemish.

  • @herrickinman9303
    @herrickinman9303 ปีที่แล้ว

    _Missae_ is the plural of _missa._
    "Missae papae marcelli" means "masses of Pope Marcellus." Surely, you meant "MIssa Papae Marcelli."

  • @jefflokanata
    @jefflokanata 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the subtitle cc are amusing . in 4:13 , "anus day" 😅

  • @sueco_r
    @sueco_r ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly, I can't enjoy Renaissance music as much as I enjoy Baroque music, it's just too much for me, it's like a really fancy glass of wine that I can't enjoy because it's way more fancy to what I'm used to. I hope that the more I listen to it, the more I open myself to it, it's quality is undenyalbe, God Bless you.

    • @riverstun
      @riverstun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love Bach, but he loved Palestrina. Suggest if you havent, that you listen to Missa Papae Marcelli. This work, Drains all stress from me from the very first notes. There are some other gems out there, Spem in Alium, Miserere, Parci Mihi.that are immediately accessible also.

  • @isaiasramosgarcia3457
    @isaiasramosgarcia3457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i prefer Victoria, supose because i am spanish, but the abulensis has always moved me more

  • @nahim2261
    @nahim2261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:37

    • @TalesGomesG
      @TalesGomesG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Papae Marcelli is a masterpiece

  • @bifeldman
    @bifeldman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lots of good insights. The gratuitous attempts at cutesy wit generally miss and undermine your presentation.

  • @medievalmusiclover
    @medievalmusiclover ปีที่แล้ว

    Palestrina is the best.

  • @hamletsmill258
    @hamletsmill258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    De Kerle wasn't Dutch, and what's with all the cut edits?

    • @KeepitClassical
      @KeepitClassical  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Allen Atlas describes him as a "Netherlander" on page 581 🤷🏼‍♂️ Probably could have been more careful with my description of him.

    • @mmneander1316
      @mmneander1316 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not Dutch in the modern sense of the term "Dutch". He is from the Low Countries (in the historical sense of the term "Low Countries").

  • @Benjamin-bq7tc
    @Benjamin-bq7tc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are mispronouncing "epochs." If you're going to make videos, make sure you are literate.