Frostmourne was actually the exactly the same as the one from the Lich King until the release of Whizbang, when they "buffed" it to the one we have right now.
@@FlareIsGone Yeah it’s so bad, honestly here’s a good rework 5 mana, 8 attack, 4 durability Can only attack minions, when you attack and kill a minion summon a copy to your side. Now it mind controls at the cost of player health. But it’s a minion only weapon. It should be broken it’s FROSTMOURN!
7 mana 7/3 Frostmourne. Ignores divine shield, reborn and deathrattles. Deathrattle: Summon every minion killed by this weapon. Also deal up to 21 damage hopefully if there's no taunts by turn 9.
@@peshomighty5051 I think it should be returned to its original attack and cost but still get those buffs, it makes more sense since death knight is meant to be the class where each game is a boss fight and you are the bad guy
Hireek is such a strange card. Why'd they print it? They gave warlock how many handbuff cards in/before rumble? How many have been printed since? All the handbuff cards warlock has access to are terrible neutral cards that were okay at best in standard. The class cards that were out when Hireek came out were: Spirit of the Bat, They gave warlock two class handbuff cards that effect Hireek since rumble. There are 2 neutral handbuff cards from/before rumble. There are seven that have come out since (if you include Saloon Brewmaster). Being a warlock main before DK came out was a real time, that's for sure.
I remember playing malacrest a lot back in Rastikan’s Rumble. I REALLY tried to make it work. 9 times out of 10 I didn’t even remember what my opening hand was by that point in the game. I didn’t have a pc back then for a deck tracker.
For the memes, I’ll need to make a deck with Hir’eek that combos with the new Warlock legendary so it copies the Deathrattle to summon an 8/8 with taunt to fill your board.
@@Talandarcrazymage Very unlikely to happen, you still burn the top card of your deck, still requires at least a 9 mana investment, and isn't even that good of a payoff.
@@alonkob2127 burning one card is not that bad as it seems, i do not know what type of decks you play but i play warrior and druid and i use freya and yes i could burn a guff but it is more likely to burn something that is not that vital
@@Talandarcrazymage Burning a card in your deck is straight up a disadvantage. You are paying 9 mana for a card that, before doing anything else, puts you in a disadvantage. And there is no mini in the game that is remotely worth paying 9 mana and Burning a card just for a chance to get. Compare this to the mistcaller - it's 3 mana less, doesn't actively harm you, and can benefit you more consistently. giving +1/+1 to your hand and deck for 6 mana is very, VERY far from good, but it's also infinitely better than paying 9 mana to burn a card in your deck and maybe have a very low unlikely chance of getting a mini card that would literally be less useful than buffing your whole hand and deck. Botface is straight up a downgrade on that.
hack the system could geniouinely gain a buff by changing into a questline: 1st step would require 1 attack, 2nd and 3rd would 2, same amount of attacks but this time your getting rewards. like:1st step: get 0 mana copy of upgrade! (spell:your weapon gains +1/+1 or if you dont have weapon, equip 1/3 weapon) 2nd reward: your hero power costs 0, which would benefit other hero cards if they run them or even just armor up for 0 mana +2 armor or +4 if its odd deck 3rd reward: get 0 mana 1 durability location which has: transform your hero power into anraphet's core and gain 5-10? or possibly instead summons 8/8 can't attack taunt elusive minion. using location to avoid it being countered by stuffs and i highly doubt they are gonna add location counters that work on players turn who plays the location and ones that do exist require location to exist on board on the enemy turn, but also this allows other warrior decks potentially run this quest for 0 mana hero power and isn't forced hero power change, and those that do want the questlines hero power gains protection for doing so.
13:50 I remember playing HS on and off a bunch of times, but the biggest breaking point which got me to just quit full stop and just watch people play instead was during KFT when everyone got a free DK for doing the mini adventure's intro and I got Thrall Deathseer. The last time I played a bunch at that point was a little in KnC and a bunch during Old Gods, so I had absolutely nothing for Evolve Shaman honestly if I got any other DK, even the Warrior one, I would've been happier since I generally like Warrior way more than Shaman so getting to use the new card type even if it was bad with a class I liked playing would be more fun than forcing myself to play a class I didn't like with a centerpiece card that I didn't have any of the support for.
the thing about Aviana is that i could see why the devs would make this: sometimes you make a card that looks like dogshit but somehow players figure a way to make it work. at least it's a somewhat cool effect, and the devs just thought that maybe someone somewhere would find a way to abuse this. like *Nozdormu* giving your opponent the 10 mana before you do. Rhonin on the other hand, what WERE they thinking. it's not cool, there's obviously no build-around, it's a fucking DEATHRATTLE, it's an 8 mana 7/7 do nothing... no one in the dev team could possibly have thought this would be viable right? it's not even like it's a strong deathrattle, or like mage can abuse this by copying deathrattles or use this effect really well, no, it's just "get 3 shitty spells"
@@peanuteater9640 I have heard how unfun it is. And even then just the manacheating to 0 on its own for any spell sounds awful and I apologise for my stupid suggestion
*Rant incoming* The sheer disrespect the dev team gave to Frostmourne drives me up a wall. The fact that the Legendary weapon of The Lich King is worse than basically *every other weapon* Death Knight has access to is insane to me. The "buff" is also a complete joke. Sure, getting it down to 6 mana is good, but putting it at 4 Attack basically means that the card can no longer effectively do the one thing its designed to: *Swing at big minions to steal them* Literally ALL they had to do was give it a "Your hero is *Immune* while attacking" and that would have made the card at least 15% better. They wouldn't have even needed to reduce the cost. As then you wouldn't have to worry about putting yourself in OTK range unless you're playing Triple Blood. Instead they killed what little playability the card had and left it at that.
Clutchmother Zavas has to be my favorite "bad" card, had me running stuff like lakkari felhound and howlfiend trying to get it to like 30/30 just for it to die to random removal
In the defense of Aviana: You can Alarm-o-Bot her and then you get the benefit before the opponent, which is obviously broken and I'm surprised this hasn't been nerfed.
Cera'thine was actually surprisingly competent as one of the meme 'transform your deck' cards. Nowhere near meta playable, but for the sorts of players who enjoy Renounce Darkness-style decks, she's among the best. Especially in the context of Year of the Gryphon which gave super-casual players very little (not to mention needing to work around the questline meta), she was a successful card design. Lilian isn't too hard to defend in context either. Back then value generation often meant weak spells (e.g. 1 damage Razorpetals) that you'd love to replace with something more substantial. She was also among the early, pre-Witchwood thief rogue cards which were still working out what to do with that archetype, so we can forgive her for not holding up to modern standards. As much as it pains me to say, the worst rogue legendary was definitely the pre-buff Anub'arak. I loved using it against TGT control warriors, but it was unplayable against everything else. And what was rogue ever meant to do with a super-slow 9-drop?
For priest, I would have to say Temporus. Even in the BEST case, dropping him usually costs you the game, Giving your opponent 2 turns, at no cost to them, is unrecoverable
Okay, but… hear me out: If you play sheriff Battlebrim to open the badlands jail, then imprison aviana, you can get her effect without it being destroyed by your opponent!
I just stumbled upon your channel through the complaints department one (which I also just found out about) and you crack me up, man. Keep up the good work! Oh, if the giveaway thing is still a thing, my favorite HS card ever would have to be Spectral Cutlass.
Duskfallen Aviana is my favorite, “Minion that has no use but is detrimental for whoever gets it.” Card. I wish she was better, for the symmetric effect, the stats are almost worth it, maybe an extra stat in either one, but the effects the main problem, I would personally change it to “On both players turn, the first minion and spell costs (0)”. So even if you can’t play another minion for free, so still get SOMETHING by playing her.
Hex Lord Malacrass actually saw play on Big Spell Mage, both in ladder and in championships, it wasn't amazing, but it was decent agaisn't control, specially considering that Odd Warrior was absurdly popular back in the time, so value was key.
blood herald had use. in duels. due in there you had option for hero power that absolutely was amazing for any infuse cards except the golem: 2 mana hero power for demon hunter: choose an enemy minion. summon 2 1/1 illidari with rush to attack it. suddenly blood herald isn't that weak anymore. cause it kept gaining +2/+2 each time you used your hero power.
Hot take but I actually like the old burgle mechanic. Narrowing the pool to your opponent's class helps a lot with R.N.G, and gets you a better idea of limitations and synergies to watch out for. It does suck in the mirror, but I'm glad we have the occasional change-up in modern burgle effects to something similar (cards opponent played) with cards like Mixtape, Plagiarize, and Vanessa.
I can kinda see what they were going for with aviana, the idea being that you'd get more value from it due to your cards on average costing more. The fuck up was that they didn't guarantee that you'd benefit at all.
I love your unhinged rant on Hir'eek the Bat lmao I didn't unpack Hir'eek but I got the card who dupes itself when it's discarded. Wtf was Warlock in that expansion?
I felt that Hir'eek rant in the depths of my soul, because that was the "free legendary" I got from Rastakhan's Rumble :(. Also as a Priest main, I'm surprised seeing Volazj, it's definetly not a good card, but I can think of a few worse stinkers like Lady in White (worse Mistcaller unless you make your deck 100% based around it), and Temporus (Literally a 7 mana concede button, would argue it's worse than Duskfallen Aviana).
Aviana could easily gain simple buff: either its 2nd card played, which would mean that druids can play card after aviana for free or: on your (most likely druid) turn, the first card played costs (0), both of these chances would allow the player who played it gain the benefit of aviana, on first one enemy also benefits from it but on 2nd example only player benefits from it. or if they want to keep the effect the same, i dunno give it elusive or stealth for 1 turn so it has significantly bigger chance to survive to your turn.
I wonder if Frostmourne would be fine as a direct Truesilver Champion reference, i.e. a 4 mana 4/2. Ya know, paladin/death knights being two sides of the same coin and all that.
Garbage picks for mage. Both Rhonin and Malacrass were fun value based cards, very slow but not necessarily that much of a problem at the time they were released. That is to say, theu were a million times better than Anomalus and Flame Leviathan.
What if Hi'reek was: 1 mana 1/1 "*Battlecry:* Summon copies of this minion equals to its attack." So it has the "Sinergy" with handbuff but it's not an awful thing?
"At least he becomes the new lich king" yeahh and then he gets in one fight with sylvannas and loses the helm of domination. Shadowlands was reaaaly fun...
I actually put Rhonin in a Yogg deck when Old Gods released just for the 3 extra spells for Yogg. Also, with Mistcaller? Why play Mistcaller at 6 when you can play Lorthe’mar on 7 for waaaay more upside.
There is technically a way to make aviana work, if you play Aviana and you make her dormant with Maiev Shadowsong, you can benefit from her effect in 2 turns. Still bad considering the effort but, it's... something?
sorry for making bunch of comments but i dont wanna make a novel so each card i comment about gets own comment but: hi'reek the bat, was expecting that. easily few things that could buff it: give it taunt, so its 8 mana 1/1 taunt and fills your board and most likely makes you survive 1 turn if your oppnoent doesn't have board attack. hir'eek the bat should receive player choosing keyword for it and that keyword is saved on memory so if player receives it, it uses that keyword and if it being beast doesn't work, then change it to mech. this would allow hi'reek to become actually interesting card and amazing niche card. one player might use it as 8 mana 7 minions 1/1 rush which would be neat for one deck while other could use taunt, other stealth, one poisonous. like all of these would work: divine shield,freeze,lifesteal,poisonous,reborn,rush,stealth,taunt,tradeable,windfury,magnetic,elusive and magnetic would be probably too massive of a buff for blizzard cause imagine leaving that innocent 4/4 mech to board on their 7 mana. then its suddenly 7 5/5's.
on my brother's account he got Hack the System and i tried to make it work its entire time in standart, with the weapons and cards that increased durability (one of em could also give lackeys so hey more value), dont remember how it went tho
Funny enough. I craft Bolvar, and find end let hack the system in my collection. Bolvar in odd pally with broom kill big taunt minions, I can draw I'm early with the spell that draws 2 minions from 1 attack and start to buff him with my dudes that died. And hack the system is fun to run, also Martianboo made a playable deck some months ago...Is too boring play only overpower decks and cards
Maluco, eu tenho a metade dessas cartas na minha coleção. Detalhe minha primeira lendária, foi o termaplug, o 9 manas 9/7 que invoca um gnomo leproso pra cada inimigo morto.
I think they just didnt want to majorly change frostmourne. A few years back, maindecking frostmourne wouldve been amazing - back when the game was more about value. I don't think they can just change numbers on frostmourne to make it viable. Kinda sad, because its friggin frostmourne. Its still a great discover atm if you run into value vs value matchups, but that so rare these days. Rissa is kinda interesting. She doesnt sound all that terrible... but again, its a value card. In rogue/DH to boot, those two do not care at all about value, they either wanna kill you or do obscene shit. Duskfallen Aviana is an anti-aggro card and it is amazing at that /s Slate seems like... fine, isnt he? I mean, yeah, Acidmaw(post buff) is just better. But Acidmaw is outright amazing. Being worse than amazing is not terrible? But honestly, Im surprised that there arent any absolute dogshit legendaries in hunter. Ronin and Malacrass are amazing compared to Duskfallen Aviana. I wonder what Bolar Fordragon would look like if he'd be released today.. he'd probably have like rush+divine shield or something.
NO U DID NOT PUT BOLVAR ON THIS LIST. THAT'S IT I'M CANCELING MY MEMEBERSHIP.
The day Bolvar unsubbed from Flare is the day the devil cried
You know a card is bad when you have to hope your opponent gentleman's for you to make use of Aviana...
Frostmourne was actually the exactly the same as the one from the Lich King until the release of Whizbang, when they "buffed" it to the one we have right now.
the card is so awful I straight up thought it was always like that holy fuck
@@FlareIsGonethey cut 1 mana and 1 attack. Really should be reworked. It could be so cool but no it just bad
@@FlareIsGone Yeah it’s so bad, honestly here’s a good rework
5 mana, 8 attack, 4 durability
Can only attack minions, when you attack and kill a minion summon a copy to your side.
Now it mind controls at the cost of player health. But it’s a minion only weapon. It should be broken it’s FROSTMOURN!
@ethanrussow9262 So like reska but in a weapon, I like it
I love how angry you get at some of these
His mic can't handle the power though
I would to if I unpacked all of these as my legendary for sets
Honestly I can understand it
They should change Frostmourne to Immune While Attacking - Minions killed with this are summoned to your board.
7 mana 7/3 Frostmourne.
Ignores divine shield, reborn and deathrattles.
Deathrattle: Summon every minion killed by this weapon.
Also deal up to 21 damage hopefully if there's no taunts by turn 9.
@@peshomighty5051 I think it should be returned to its original attack and cost but still get those buffs, it makes more sense since death knight is meant to be the class where each game is a boss fight and you are the bad guy
Temporus was so bad that Flare forgot his existence
Ironic.
Justice for BOLVAR! The person. Not the card or WoW character.
Hireek is such a strange card. Why'd they print it? They gave warlock how many handbuff cards in/before rumble? How many have been printed since? All the handbuff cards warlock has access to are terrible neutral cards that were okay at best in standard. The class cards that were out when Hireek came out were: Spirit of the Bat,
They gave warlock two class handbuff cards that effect Hireek since rumble. There are 2 neutral handbuff cards from/before rumble. There are seven that have come out since (if you include Saloon Brewmaster).
Being a warlock main before DK came out was a real time, that's for sure.
I remember playing malacrest a lot back in Rastikan’s Rumble. I REALLY tried to make it work. 9 times out of 10 I didn’t even remember what my opening hand was by that point in the game. I didn’t have a pc back then for a deck tracker.
The mic peaking adds so much to this video, it’s so perfect
Ok there is 1 single ass good thing about hi reek existing: it was great when you got it with Bandersmosh
For the memes, I’ll need to make a deck with Hir’eek that combos with the new Warlock legendary so it copies the Deathrattle to summon an 8/8 with taunt to fill your board.
Honorable mention to Botface. Pay 9 mana to either do nothing or burn your next card, your opponent gets to choose.
Botfave is not that bad because you can get any mini and there are slme really good ones like blockderwock
@@Talandarcrazymage Very unlikely to happen, you still burn the top card of your deck, still requires at least a 9 mana investment, and isn't even that good of a payoff.
@@alonkob2127 burning one card is not that bad as it seems, i do not know what type of decks you play but i play warrior and druid and i use freya and yes i could burn a guff but it is more likely to burn something that is not that vital
@@Talandarcrazymage Burning a card in your deck is straight up a disadvantage. You are paying 9 mana for a card that, before doing anything else, puts you in a disadvantage. And there is no mini in the game that is remotely worth paying 9 mana and Burning a card just for a chance to get. Compare this to the mistcaller - it's 3 mana less, doesn't actively harm you, and can benefit you more consistently. giving +1/+1 to your hand and deck for 6 mana is very, VERY far from good, but it's also infinitely better than paying 9 mana to burn a card in your deck and maybe have a very low unlikely chance of getting a mini card that would literally be less useful than buffing your whole hand and deck. Botface is straight up a downgrade on that.
hack the system could geniouinely gain a buff by changing into a questline: 1st step would require 1 attack, 2nd and 3rd would 2, same amount of attacks but this time your getting rewards. like:1st step: get 0 mana copy of upgrade! (spell:your weapon gains +1/+1 or if you dont have weapon, equip 1/3 weapon) 2nd reward: your hero power costs 0, which would benefit other hero cards if they run them or even just armor up for 0 mana +2 armor or +4 if its odd deck 3rd reward: get 0 mana 1 durability location which has: transform your hero power into anraphet's core and gain 5-10? or possibly instead summons 8/8 can't attack taunt elusive minion. using location to avoid it being countered by stuffs and i highly doubt they are gonna add location counters that work on players turn who plays the location and ones that do exist require location to exist on board on the enemy turn, but also this allows other warrior decks potentially run this quest for 0 mana hero power and isn't forced hero power change, and those that do want the questlines hero power gains protection for doing so.
13:50 I remember playing HS on and off a bunch of times, but the biggest breaking point which got me to just quit full stop and just watch people play instead was during KFT when everyone got a free DK for doing the mini adventure's intro and I got Thrall Deathseer. The last time I played a bunch at that point was a little in KnC and a bunch during Old Gods, so I had absolutely nothing for Evolve Shaman honestly if I got any other DK, even the Warrior one, I would've been happier since I generally like Warrior way more than Shaman so getting to use the new card type even if it was bad with a class I liked playing would be more fun than forcing myself to play a class I didn't like with a centerpiece card that I didn't have any of the support for.
I remember that Rhonin and Malacrass saw some play back then.
Being a f2p player before the tavern pass hurt so bad
the thing about Aviana is that i could see why the devs would make this: sometimes you make a card that looks like dogshit but somehow players figure a way to make it work. at least it's a somewhat cool effect, and the devs just thought that maybe someone somewhere would find a way to abuse this. like *Nozdormu* giving your opponent the 10 mana before you do.
Rhonin on the other hand, what WERE they thinking. it's not cool, there's obviously no build-around, it's a fucking DEATHRATTLE, it's an 8 mana 7/7 do nothing... no one in the dev team could possibly have thought this would be viable right? it's not even like it's a strong deathrattle, or like mage can abuse this by copying deathrattles or use this effect really well, no, it's just "get 3 shitty spells"
It was Nozdormu who gave both players 10 mana, no Anachronos, but yes.
I feel like Aviana should make the first spell each turn cost 0
@@KraylebStudios Do you remember a card call ultimate infestation?
@@peanuteater9640 I have heard how unfun it is. And even then just the manacheating to 0 on its own for any spell sounds awful and I apologise for my stupid suggestion
*Rant incoming*
The sheer disrespect the dev team gave to Frostmourne drives me up a wall. The fact that the Legendary weapon of The Lich King is worse than basically *every other weapon* Death Knight has access to is insane to me.
The "buff" is also a complete joke. Sure, getting it down to 6 mana is good, but putting it at 4 Attack basically means that the card can no longer effectively do the one thing its designed to: *Swing at big minions to steal them*
Literally ALL they had to do was give it a "Your hero is *Immune* while attacking" and that would have made the card at least 15% better. They wouldn't have even needed to reduce the cost. As then you wouldn't have to worry about putting yourself in OTK range unless you're playing Triple Blood.
Instead they killed what little playability the card had and left it at that.
All of my friends stopped playing during Rastakhans rumble for good reason tbh
Hireek should be a 5 mana demon beast, it would be a viable option if there was a warlock handbuff demon deck
Frostmourne combos with Darkmarrow's double deathrattle trigger I don't see how it's bad when cards like corpscicle exist
Because it's 6 mana 4/3 weapon and you rarely have enough attack to kill something you actually want to resurrect.
Clutchmother Zavas has to be my favorite "bad" card, had me running stuff like lakkari felhound and howlfiend trying to get it to like 30/30 just for it to die to random removal
To fix Avianna, change it to the first card after this card is played cost 0
In the defense of Aviana: You can Alarm-o-Bot her and then you get the benefit before the opponent, which is obviously broken and I'm surprised this hasn't been nerfed.
Because it isn't. Alarm-o-bot will most of the time be targeted and it's a 3 mana do nothing still.
Also carnivorous cube/ravenous kraken
@@Replosioned The comment was meant sarcastic.
@Chelrack I mean it sounded serious lol.
I can hear your blood pressure rising as the video goes along lmao
I loved this, we need a pt.2, we need to see the neutrals
Just make hireek a 3/2 for the imp stat line, still never sees play but it’s at least not the worst card in the game
I feel like at least Lillian saw some experimentation when it came out, Cera'thine Fleetrunner has been nowhere to be seen since release.
Cera'thine was actually surprisingly competent as one of the meme 'transform your deck' cards. Nowhere near meta playable, but for the sorts of players who enjoy Renounce Darkness-style decks, she's among the best. Especially in the context of Year of the Gryphon which gave super-casual players very little (not to mention needing to work around the questline meta), she was a successful card design.
Lilian isn't too hard to defend in context either. Back then value generation often meant weak spells (e.g. 1 damage Razorpetals) that you'd love to replace with something more substantial. She was also among the early, pre-Witchwood thief rogue cards which were still working out what to do with that archetype, so we can forgive her for not holding up to modern standards.
As much as it pains me to say, the worst rogue legendary was definitely the pre-buff Anub'arak. I loved using it against TGT control warriors, but it was unplayable against everything else. And what was rogue ever meant to do with a super-slow 9-drop?
@@AngryShuckie Oh pre buff Anub'arak was HORRID
whats even funnier for slate is that two years later his effect became a 1 mana spell with urchin spines (? I think that's the name).
For priest, I would have to say Temporus.
Even in the BEST case, dropping him usually costs you the game,
Giving your opponent 2 turns, at no cost to them, is unrecoverable
Okay, but… hear me out:
If you play sheriff Battlebrim to open the badlands jail, then imprison aviana, you can get her effect without it being destroyed by your opponent!
holy fuck
I just stumbled upon your channel through the complaints department one (which I also just found out about) and you crack me up, man. Keep up the good work! Oh, if the giveaway thing is still a thing, my favorite HS card ever would have to be Spectral Cutlass.
I remember playing rhonin in a mirrange tempo (lol) mage deck. Was it really 8 years ago. Depressing.
this guy was LOSING IT by the time he got to hack the system 😭😭
Duskfallen Aviana is my favorite, “Minion that has no use but is detrimental for whoever gets it.” Card. I wish she was better, for the symmetric effect, the stats are almost worth it, maybe an extra stat in either one, but the effects the main problem, I would personally change it to “On both players turn, the first minion and spell costs (0)”. So even if you can’t play another minion for free, so still get SOMETHING by playing her.
Hir'eek can now multiply the Deathrattle of 'Ourobos, World Serpent" 😂😂😂
Beware the anger of a calm man, expecially if you are a bad legendary card
Ah Brode's old bad legendary cards design philosophy.
Hex Lord Malacrass actually saw play on Big Spell Mage, both in ladder and in championships, it wasn't amazing, but it was decent agaisn't control, specially considering that Odd Warrior was absurdly popular back in the time, so value was key.
4:44 u should do this voice more often i burst out laughing
and mage could be chromie, malacrass saw niche play in uldum reno mage
It's gotta be Anomalus. That card was comically bad.
Yeah, choosing two legendaries which saw niche play instead of Analus which wasn't played anywhere was a weird choice
blood herald had use. in duels. due in there you had option for hero power that absolutely was amazing for any infuse cards except the golem: 2 mana hero power for demon hunter: choose an enemy minion. summon 2 1/1 illidari with rush to attack it. suddenly blood herald isn't that weak anymore. cause it kept gaining +2/+2 each time you used your hero power.
fun fact hir'eek was my free legendary from rastakhans when they did the free loa thing.
Hot take but I actually like the old burgle mechanic. Narrowing the pool to your opponent's class helps a lot with R.N.G, and gets you a better idea of limitations and synergies to watch out for. It does suck in the mirror, but I'm glad we have the occasional change-up in modern burgle effects to something similar (cards opponent played) with cards like Mixtape, Plagiarize, and Vanessa.
I love that you get so angry at the end at your mic start peaking
Profesor Slate saw a little tiny bit of play in Stormwind QL Hunter., but yeah, Hunter doesnt have actively bad cards.
I can kinda see what they were going for with aviana, the idea being that you'd get more value from it due to your cards on average costing more. The fuck up was that they didn't guarantee that you'd benefit at all.
I love your unhinged rant on Hir'eek the Bat lmao
I didn't unpack Hir'eek but I got the card who dupes itself when it's discarded. Wtf was Warlock in that expansion?
I felt that Hir'eek rant in the depths of my soul, because that was the "free legendary" I got from Rastakhan's Rumble :(.
Also as a Priest main, I'm surprised seeing Volazj, it's definetly not a good card, but I can think of a few worse stinkers like Lady in White (worse Mistcaller unless you make your deck 100% based around it), and Temporus (Literally a 7 mana concede button, would argue it's worse than Duskfallen Aviana).
Give frostmourne the legendary card immune while attacking?
Aviana could easily gain simple buff: either its 2nd card played, which would mean that druids can play card after aviana for free or: on your (most likely druid) turn, the first card played costs (0), both of these chances would allow the player who played it gain the benefit of aviana, on first one enemy also benefits from it but on 2nd example only player benefits from it. or if they want to keep the effect the same, i dunno give it elusive or stealth for 1 turn so it has significantly bigger chance to survive to your turn.
I think Lilian’s art was censored by adding meat on the bones, similar to the forsaken models in Chinese wow
9:10 Tbf this guy came out in like 2008 and wow was suppose to run on a potato.
I wonder if Frostmourne would be fine as a direct Truesilver Champion reference, i.e. a 4 mana 4/2. Ya know, paladin/death knights being two sides of the same coin and all that.
I feel you man I’ve opened over half of these it feels terrible
Garbage picks for mage. Both Rhonin and Malacrass were fun value based cards, very slow but not necessarily that much of a problem at the time they were released. That is to say, theu were a million times better than Anomalus and Flame Leviathan.
What if Hi'reek was: 1 mana 1/1 "*Battlecry:* Summon copies of this minion equals to its attack." So it has the "Sinergy" with handbuff but it's not an awful thing?
"At least he becomes the new lich king" yeahh and then he gets in one fight with sylvannas and loses the helm of domination. Shadowlands was reaaaly fun...
I feel like Hi'reek should have a Deathrattle to deal damage to all enemies for each Hi'reek thats died that game
I actually put Rhonin in a Yogg deck when Old Gods released just for the 3 extra spells for Yogg. Also, with Mistcaller? Why play Mistcaller at 6 when you can play Lorthe’mar on 7 for waaaay more upside.
Or just wish upon the star ;)
There is technically a way to make aviana work, if you play Aviana and you make her dormant with Maiev Shadowsong, you can benefit from her effect in 2 turns. Still bad considering the effort but, it's... something?
sorry for making bunch of comments but i dont wanna make a novel so each card i comment about gets own comment but: hi'reek the bat, was expecting that. easily few things that could buff it: give it taunt, so its 8 mana 1/1 taunt and fills your board and most likely makes you survive 1 turn if your oppnoent doesn't have board attack. hir'eek the bat should receive player choosing keyword for it and that keyword is saved on memory so if player receives it, it uses that keyword and if it being beast doesn't work, then change it to mech. this would allow hi'reek to become actually interesting card and amazing niche card. one player might use it as 8 mana 7 minions 1/1 rush which would be neat for one deck while other could use taunt, other stealth, one poisonous. like all of these would work: divine shield,freeze,lifesteal,poisonous,reborn,rush,stealth,taunt,tradeable,windfury,magnetic,elusive and magnetic would be probably too massive of a buff for blizzard cause imagine leaving that innocent 4/4 mech to board on their 7 mana. then its suddenly 7 5/5's.
I don't have acid maw somehow but I really like slate it's been really helpful in my hunter quest deck all about damaging spells.
Rhonin was mostly just used as an Antonidas combo enabler, still bad but at least it has a use for the class.
Ever tried Hex Lord Malacrass in Reno mage back in the day with brann leyline manipulator? Combined with cost reduced kazakus potions.
I think frost mourn should have higher attack and immune while attaching so you could swing at big minions
The paladin nozdormu feels like duskfallen avianna with like 4 extra cycles of iteration.
on my brother's account he got Hack the System and i tried to make it work its entire time in standart, with the weapons and cards that increased durability (one of em could also give lackeys so hey more value), dont remember how it went tho
I'd argue these cards are incredibly powerful, seeing how they practically drove you to insanity 😭 That makes them better than C'Thun
I could write a thesis on how to make c'thun a good card
@@FlareIsGone "How to fix the C'Thun Archetype" I'd be interested in seeing how you'd change all of the C'Thun cards to make them better lol
Always loved the overload quest for shaman. Reward was super fun
Hex Lord used to be a reno mage card... It was usable there. But Rhonin, I can't disagree there
Considering how many times he clipped the mic he suffered for this video
I really really want Bolvar to be brought to standard with big buffs.
2:45 dude, just take a breath xD slowly, relax...
How about a list of the cards from each class that piss you off the most
now do a powerpoint on the best common card in each class
Another day of Glazing Shadow Reaper Anduin because he's my favorite card
Hir'eek 💀💀💀
13:40 flare irl lore
I also unpacked hreek the bat so you are not alone
Frostmurne just need inmune while attacking
Oh Frostmourne. How the mighty have fallen. Unlike the best card in the game, obsidian statue, which is my favorite card!
i went and disenchanted my bolvar because of this, thanks!
Hack the system got less than 20 seconds to show for it. Truly terrible
This was actually hilarious
Funny enough. I craft Bolvar, and find end let hack the system in my collection. Bolvar in odd pally with broom kill big taunt minions, I can draw I'm early with the spell that draws 2 minions from 1 attack and start to buff him with my dudes that died. And hack the system is fun to run, also Martianboo made a playable deck some months ago...Is too boring play only overpower decks and cards
My favorite card is vilespine slayer, an actually good card
I'm thinking Aviana could be better with just one change. Dormant for 1 turn.
Maluco, eu tenho a metade dessas cartas na minha coleção. Detalhe minha primeira lendária, foi o termaplug, o 9 manas 9/7 que invoca um gnomo leproso pra cada inimigo morto.
frostmourne was pretty decent in arena for a bit
I think they just didnt want to majorly change frostmourne.
A few years back, maindecking frostmourne wouldve been amazing - back when the game was more about value.
I don't think they can just change numbers on frostmourne to make it viable. Kinda sad, because its friggin frostmourne.
Its still a great discover atm if you run into value vs value matchups, but that so rare these days.
Rissa is kinda interesting. She doesnt sound all that terrible... but again, its a value card. In rogue/DH to boot, those two do not care at all about value, they either wanna kill you or do obscene shit.
Duskfallen Aviana is an anti-aggro card and it is amazing at that /s
Slate seems like... fine, isnt he? I mean, yeah, Acidmaw(post buff) is just better. But Acidmaw is outright amazing. Being worse than amazing is not terrible? But honestly, Im surprised that there arent any absolute dogshit legendaries in hunter.
Ronin and Malacrass are amazing compared to Duskfallen Aviana.
I wonder what Bolar Fordragon would look like if he'd be released today.. he'd probably have like rush+divine shield or something.
My favorite card is probably The Leviathan, love me some fair midrange paladin
Oh and there is Urchin spines
Yay thanks for the free membership, I was wondering how I got that yesterday
targeted bullying against bolvar : (
Lilian was playable in Burgle Rogue for yrs. The deck wasn't good though.
Come now Malacrass wasn't that bad...
When he was in standard. Nowadays he could cost like 3 mana and I doubt they'd be played.
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Also fav colassal is zhilag, cool ass big demon
You forgot the crappy neutrals. I was expecting Hemet Nesingwary, but I was waiting on your ra-ahem-opinion.
Duskfallen Aviana is the best bait for dirty rat 😝