That kind of did end the friendship.You never see them being as close as they were in the beginning. In the rare instance they are together we see Carmela try to reach out or reconnect, Charmaine subtly rebuffs her attempts.
The fact Carmela was still graceful and sweet to livia in the early seasons despite all the shit she put her though always made me give her more slack. Imagine being 19 and your mother in law on your wedding day calls you plain and her son is going to get tired of you??
@@MrBmick79 does it make what she said any more appropriate to say to a young girl on her wedding day? Livia said that because she’s a narcissist and can’t stand to see people happy. The day and moment wasn’t about her so she had to ruin it and make herself what she remembered about her wedding day. Not being happy
@@slydEvil35right but she was also probably trying to save Carmela from her own fate. Just like Carmela was trying to save Janice from the same fate while she was trying on dresses to marry Richie. But Janice is a totally different beast. She’s the real gangster.
Her hypocrisy makes her more human, relatable. I think we are all hypocrites in one way or another, and her hypocrisy makes people mad because maybe they see aspects of themselves in her hypocrisy.
I disliked carmela for all the reasons you listed in the beginning. In the episode where tony gets pulled over by the cop, she's like "makes me sick, you'd think they'd be out arresting drug dealers" yeah, real criminals like dealers, not like the boss of a crime family 🙄
I am gonna be honest. Edie Falco's performance in 'Whitecaps' is some of the best I have ever seen, I would argue she outperformed everyone including James Gandolfini just in that episode alone, and that's truly saying something.
Tony’s dialogue really gave Carmela the assist to express more anger, distress, frustration & utter disbelief that he doesn’t care or simply he just doesn’t give a fudge about what she’s says or how she feels especially considering this has been going on forever. She’s talking about the years of laying next to him in bed knowing where he’s been what he was doing & just having to stomach it & he brings up the bird feeder & of course stealing 40gs from your spouse is a big deal no matter what but he says it like we’re even making it as if that’s what caused him to start having his side chicks. It’s one thing if he cheated maybe once or twice but damn near their entire marriage. Plus the fact they argued throughout the entire house, it kinda felt as though Edie was an actual friend to Carmela & she’s been waiting curse Tony out for Carmela, I’ll give Tony this had that been Christopher or Richie the second Carmela opens her mouth to finally get that off her chest it would have turned into a domestic violence.
I also really love her "you're my guy" scene in one of the coma episodes, really heart wrenching scene and it bothers me that I can't find it on youtube like others, masterclass in acting and underappreciated in my opinion.
People dislikes mob wives because they don´t own up to the fact they are also criminals. A mobster knows he is a criminal and acts accordingly, but the wives look to the other side and just enjoy the shiny things the husband got them with all that hard earn blood money.
There is a level of denial in mobsters too. Both with the outward portrayal as businessmen/ family men, and the euphemisms they use to hide the violence in their acts. He was "taken care of" (brutally murdered), they were "persuaded" (threatened to be thrown off a bridge). Bobby didn't even have to kill anyone until he was in his 40's, and most of the dirty work was taken care of by soldiers or 3rd party hit men. A boss may order hits, but rarely was he seeing any of the unsavory side of things unless he wanted to (like Tony and the Bevilaqua kid)
@@nicksinger1698 sure, but that's to keep their family bs between them ("you are only as good as your last envelope"). I mean in regards to actual justice, they know it's not unfair to go to jail (jail or bullet Tony used to say), bur the wives do seem surprise to the idea they could be prosecuted.
@@nicksinger1698 because they know they are guilty and want to cut a deal, not because they were surprise their job happens to be ilegal all of a sudden. That's some pretty thick skull you have there.
She definitely was very hypocritical and I love how no matter how mad she was once he bought something for her everything was fine again but she still wanted more like when she got the brand new Porsche her first thought was I still wish u called the guy at the building department. But she was also a perfect wife for a mobster, she had his back and always defended her family against anyone outside the family and when the indictments were coming down she helped him clear out all the guns and money like she’s done it a million times before so she was a true ride or die wife
Eeeeeeeexcept once the gumar’s call to the house landed on her kids (a witness! Can’t have that!) THAT took some time, failed attempts at a decent divorce settlement, her own tryst, AND a plot of land for a spec house to buy her off!
So thankful you shared this insightful commentary on Carmela’s character, I’ve always thought she was so much more complex than the community ever gave her credit for. 💗 thanks Kino!
Carmella helped me latched onto the show early on, as a woman her insight to the show is NECESSARY, Carm is what she is, and that's human like the rest of them. Sopranos just does characters right!
Agreed - she’s also who Tony lets his guard down with the most (ironically, about everything except their marriage). She makes the same kind of choices (few hard/brave, most not) based on how she was raised and who she is and what she thinks she needs and what there is and what she manages to do with it all, just like all of us - what understandably colors our view of that is how, unlike the characters born into it, she made that one MAJOR choice to do it all within (and off of) a very reprehensible world (tho perhaps not as clearly at the time as we might think - he was no mob boss in the 70s)
Carmella is upset about Tony’s infidelity, because it directly affects her, but she never bothered to think about the possibility that he committed murder, despite the psychiatrist’s warning. I wonder what would have been her reaction if Tony went to trial for murder. Would her worldview collapse? Would she gaslight everyone else and claim it’s a false accusation?😊
I’ve never settled on whether or not she would have flipped with the feds if Tony was for sure going down…probably, after a long fight against it if visible destitution was assured, but under the guise of “doing it for the kids”
Well... it's obvious why. What did his wife do to him really ? Just some passive aggressive BS but it was obvious she loved him completely - especially compared to how much love he got from his mother . What did he do? All that cheating comes to mind.... 😂 plus he was pretty narcissistic to boot. If he left her for one of his side pieces it wouldn't take long for them to do the passive aggressive stuff like Carmela as he starts cheats on them. Plus they might even cheat back - something Carmela would never be caught doing . Nah, leaving Carmela would be stupid but leaving him would be a non-brainer , especially if she would have succeeded in getting 1/2 of everything. Luxury life without his constant bullshit would be great... and she'd probably even hook him with a few times at her leisure
Carmela sought absolution from her sins, but refused to give up her life as a sinner. She was was haunted by her feelings of guilt, for enjoying the spoils of crime. Like Christopher's story, Carmella was an addict, to the lavish life. After her breakup with Seigneur Jughead, she sought guidance from the African priest, then went to Melfi for a session, then went to Dr. Krakower, the Jewish therapist for advice. Each time, she just simply went back to Tony. That was her failing. Carmela struggled with a conflicting need for redemption and the comforts provided by her marriage to Tony. Despite seeking help, she finds herself unable to break away from her life messed up by her mobbed up husband. Her story is another slice of the show's exploration of morality, guilt.
Carmella ws the the definition of a trophy wife. She was a great cook, she was always well put together,you never saw her looking bummy and she swallowed on Tony's birthday. She was a dream wife.
Yes, to me The Sopranos is entirely about how difficult it is for people to change. So many characters are given chances to redeem themselves by taking the harder path and most don’t. For Carmela it came down to her meeting with the older therapist that Dr. Melfi referred her to. He was the only one who ever gave Carmela the unvarnished truth, even using the word “Mafia” to her. He told her that her only redemption would be to take her kids and leave with nothing from Tony, especially his blood money. This becomes significant later when she can’t find a divorce lawyer to take her case and so she gives up and takes Tony back. She still had one option: an uncontested divorce in which she won’t need a lawyer to fight for money and a settlement from Tony. She could leave, take nothing from him, and start over. It would be incredibly hard. She’d probably have to work an entry level job somewhere, maybe even move back in with the parents. But she would be free of Tony’s financial control and would finally set an honorable example for her children. Of course in the end she can’t do it, and so makes a deal with the Devil to stay with Tony in exchange for money. Fascinating character.
Meadow - "Finn got there early one morning and saw him (Vito) going down on a security guard." Carmella - "OH MY GAWWWD!" One of the best reactions in the entire series. Died laughing when I first saw that.
I loved her totally deflated “Marco” call after her big show of fighting back the “bastards” and “idiots” who threw her in the pool. That’s Carmella’s entire arc right there.
That's the way to be, when you're a suburban housewife living in a mini-mansion, full of new Roche Bobois furniture, walking around in $500 dollar heels, and act like Buddha wouldn't meet you in your house.
Could you imagine what would have happened if one of Tony's past affairs came back into the picture with Tony's illegitimate child? I would have loved to see how Carmela would have reacted to seeing a child of one of Tony's past flings, how it would have made her feel and how he would have treated the love child and their mother.
If Carmela has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Carmela has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Carmela has only one fan then that is me. If Carmela has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Carmela, then I am against the world. Great video as always
This is a very interesting take on Carmela. Many fans think that Carmela is too annoying, needy, and weak. Truth is, she is more complicated than a lot of people think. Carmela also has her moments where we think lowly of her, such as making snide remarks at AJ and at one point calling him an animal.
AJ deserved those remarks 100%. If he was born in a family in any other culture except a Western one, his parents would have been far more harsh towards him.
Male fans mostly. I love Carmella and Janice. All the characters are well written, but I love it when female characters are written realistically and not some fantasy.
@@lavinder11You don't have to be a guy to hate Janice. She is an absolute piece of crap without any redeeming qualities. She is even a murderer ffs. And no, it wasn't self defense. It was a vengeful murder. I'm not saying Richie didn't deserve it, but that doesn't excuse her in the slightest.
It is interesting that in both the Sopranos and Breaking Bad, that the wife characters seem to be more criticized. I mean, I personally think both husband and wife have their flaws, pretty obviously, but it is funny that people equate selling meth to being unsupportive during a birthday, or murdering people to being materialistic when they talk about liking a character. For me, it's that Carmella and Skyler were just SO CLOSE to being the decent people they want to be (or try and convince people they are), and failing due to their decisions, where Walter (in the later seasons) and Tony (pretty much from the get go) are already lost causes.
It's this but also unfortunately just misogyny. Women are very often judged more harshly than men, held to higher moral expectations, especially since our first female interactions (usually) after birth is our mothers, its shocking for Mum's to be potentially flawed, triggers insecurity and trauma.
You know that the wife in breaking bad chose deliberately to take part in the money laundering, and that the wife in the sopranos denounced divorce for fear of not having money, right?
Ya, but Carmela's family was related to Dicky Moltesanti. She went to high school with Artie, Tony and who knows what other "connected" kid. They knew at a very young age, what their families were involved in.
@@stuffwithsoph8264 I'm confused. Is it misogany (hatred of women), or high expectations due to holding our mothers up on a pedestal? You made both arguments
@@martino.2450 Yep. But laundering money isn't the same as arranging 9 inmates in prison to be killed at the same time. And not divorcing a criminal is not the same as killing and intimidating witnesses to your crimes. That was my entire point.
Sorry to be a pedant, this is a great video. But you said the title of the Andrea Bocelli song translates in English to "Time to Say Goodbye". That's not true. Yes, "Time to Say Goodbye" is the title of the English language version of the song. But the Italian title actually translates to "I will leave with you." Kind of the opposite sentiment!
Charmaine was ultimately the closest thing this show had to a winner. She never once relented and her refusal to get mobbed up even indirectly. Carmella ends up a widow, Tony's brain splattered all out on the table right in front of her... The piano finally dropped on. Meadow gave up her ambitions to do anything moral to become a lawyer for mobsters and other white collar criminals. Time I
She was absolutely just as bad as tony she lied like him,treated people like him, threatened people like him, got jealous like him and if any of the guys were ballsy enough to advance on her she would’ve accepted it in a heartbeat. Don’t kid yourself if she was a man she would’ve been worse than tony
@@Shungago123 It's mostly because she didn't murder her own family members with her own two hands (among many other crimes Tony committed) but I guess you are saying that is a negligible aspect of Tony's character? Personally, I don't think she deserves even close to equal blame for those crimes, even if she does deserve some for being complicit. I doubt she would have remained complicit if she had known what Tony did to Adriana and Chris.
@@fresca4008 that makes sense, however I believe she would’ve stayed complicit she knew what happened with Richie Aprile and to some degree pussy. If tony spun her some well layered lie about Adriana or Chris was gonna rat them out she would’ve agreed with tony killing them
>takes care of the house >has multiple maids Yeah, she's a pampered queen who knows EXACTLY how her husband makes his money. Brilliantly acted by Edie Falco.
I think you can also highlight her against Phil’s wife Patty as a significant foil. Patty can be seen as Carmela without the conflict, like how Phil is seen as Tony without the sympathy. Patty is someone who has embraced the hollowness of her lifestyle and the willful ignorance of being a mob wife. Her main defining scenes are her vocally espousing her Catholic faith, primarily to belittle others, and not-so-subtly pushing Phil to kill Vito, her sister’s husband and caretaker, for being a homosexual. When it comes down to it, I think Patty and Carmine both ultimately wash their hands of being mob wives. However, Carmella is stuck in a self-inflicted hell by her own guilt. Patty IS the hell who’s convinced herself of her own righteousness, and the ultimate endpoint of not just Carmela’s character arc, but Meadow’s as well.
The idea of being mad at her for being a hypocrite when every single character in the show is shown to be a hypocrite really shows that some people just didn't understand the show.
@@poogmaster1 every person ever is/was a hypocrite in this show (and real life), its about being able to recognize it and work on yourself. Carmela was well aware, she is on a guilt trip and coping from season one and that whole thing with the priest. But when she got the chance to redeem herself by leaving Tony and starting over with nothing she refused and decided luxurious lifestyle is worth more than modest life without being involved in crime
It's amazing how much the women in these shows are hated for character flaws that may cause problems in their families and may get on tbe audience's nerves, yet the men characters are straight up murderers and theives who get married knowing that their wives had better accept their other women. The men are still considered heroic or likeable.
1. Thank you for pointing out Skyler White. I must be one of the few people that actually sympathize with her. 2. Carmela's relationship with the priest was very sensual with a lot of pent up and unresolved sexual tension. The way it was portrayed was spectacular (at least to me) It would be nice to see more portrayals like that. Very subtle yet also not so subtle.
I think the women in the bad protagonist are very reflective of those men. Relationships are symbiotic, obviously needing common medium to combine the different persons. In this case I see Carmela as much a criminal mastermind as her husband. She got the nost money out of a mob boss as anyone else can claim. She never had to commit a crime. And she is protected by law from Tony's criminal schemes. She had all the dinners and vacations and cars and houses and never risked her own neck too much. That's a solid criminal in my book.
It's funny Carmela doesn't see herself as a feminist. She is the personification of white western feminism. Lives in luxury she didn't have to work for, complains about the evil of the system she both thrives and is complicit in and can quickly play the victim. She is an exceptional character and Falco's performance matches Gandolfini's which is no mean feat.
This is a great bite sized analysis of the complexity of the human nature portrayed through story telling. You‘ve come a long way since soprano’s logs. This one was especially good
Carmela evolves from a character used to critique rich, spoiled housewives into a true friend, a selfless mother and someone who is desperately starved for true love and understanding. Remember the scene when Tony and Carmela are going through a divorce and Meadow asks her: "How could you eat sh*t from him for all those years"? Carmela stays silent, but is literally looking at her child, the reason she did it. Based on Carmela's relationship with Furio, you could tell the things she misses the most are communication and romance. I think she wouldn't care about not living in a mansion or driving fancy cars if she had those. She knew the luxurious life was temporary, superficial, and meaningless anyhow - especially given what happened to Rosalie after Jackie Sr. died. Was she a hypocrite sometimes? Yes, but in a much more benign and relatable way than Tony. One of the best characters on the show for sure.
I always upvote people who point this hypocrisy in the fandom out. More people need to be saying it. Not only was Carmela no worse than Tony, but she wasn't even close. And yet, she like so many TV wives, from Skyler White to Peggy Hill, people do these mental gymnastics to try and prove they aren't hypocrites for hating the wives/moms more than obvious villains.
People don't really get it, but being a big badass criminal is an inherent virtue. A powerful, dangerous, leader of men, risk taking guy is viewed favorably by everyone. Just because you append thief and murderer to that doesn't remove the status, not unconsciously. The mob wives on the other hand just come across as hangers-on, parasites that don't even have the decency of getting their own hands dirty. That said, I never saw carmella as annoying, but skyler is just played 100% bitch mode (and breaking bad is 99% power fantasy 1% character drama so her reasonable objections become more like calls to turn off the TV in context)
Great essay, well done and thank you, some keen observations in there. Edie as Carmella is probably my favourite portrayal by ANY actor in a tv show….her competition is Alison Janney as CJ.
@@bookbm wasn't she responsible for paralyzing her ex lover? And didn't she reap the benefits while WW was committing crimes and knew about it and enabled it until s*** hit the fan?? WTFYM she did NOTHING wrong?
She was one of the only people who got some serious dunks on Tony. My favorite one is the S2 episode where Tony went to the hospital because his ex-side girlfriend tried to do Sudoku. At the end of the episode she starts listing off all this stuff Tony has to start doing because she's going on vacation, and if she can't, well... she's gonna . Herself It was a great takedown lol
It's a bad thing is if Tony were to leave the mob a hit will mainly be put on to him and is a family basically cuz Tony because he knows too much they would have to move somewhere else
I was waiting on this one 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Carm was something else… the psych wanted to help sweet sweet AJ 😢 he never had a chance 😢 imagine him with Tony gone 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Dang! Almost at 95k! I remember when you were reviewing each episode of Sopranos, before Saints of Newark came out. Jeez how time flies! 😭 But anyway, almost 100k. It’s long over due. 💪🏽🎉
I could understand why people hated Skyler on Breaking Bad. But I never really hated Carmela, and don't particularly understand why she would be hated. I thought a lot of her negative attributes were just a mix of complacency, stress from being a mob wife (and mother), and culture (the Italians are a very conservative bunch both in the show and reality) Or maybe I just think Edie Falco is smoking hot (especially in the moments where she is wearing little to no makeup) Regardless of coomery; Edie Falco did a great job as Carmela.
I think the difference is that Skyler tended to be a hindrance to what Walt was trying to do. Carm voiced her crisis of conscience often enough to be a bit of a killjoy, but like the one therapist told her, carm was ultimately Tony's accomplice. We're rooting for our sociopathic criminal leading man in both shows. Skylar was often an annoyance to Walt. But it's hard to hate Carmella when she's the one keeping Tony together and all she asks for is some respect and her cut.
I wonder if Carmela's joy over Tony's luxurious gifts represented a physical token of his love for her. You can't see or touch someone's love, but you sure can see and feel a giant diamond ring, a sports car, and a fur coat. Maybe it gave her a temporary security.
I gotta say, even though she complains alot i never thought of her as annoying. Whenever she complains, its a legit criticism on Tony. She never got to the lengths of Janice or Livia
Characters like this are why The Sopranos was so revolutionary at the time. Movies and TV shows used to be black and white with clear heroes and villains, but then came Sopranos, a show whose main cast is practically all scumbag sociopaths and narcissists.
There always something new to find with your content I never connected the line with sal's wife about the "hey I'm home" with the ending scene of that episode
Great scenes with her but the most impactful to me is still season 3 with Carmela and Dr. Krakower. “You’re not listening to me, you must trust your first instinct, take only your children, what’s left of them, and leave him.” I wonder when the last scene of that series clears and Tony’s had his brains blown out by the mobster in the Members Only jacket right in front of AJ and her sitting at the table across from Tony with Meadow walking in the front door just in time to see it all, how many times those thoughts went through Carmela’s head again.
Carmela is certainly a complex and sympathetic character but she’s no innocent. She is absolutely complicit in Tony’s crimes because of the lifestyle it affords her. In the end that’s why she doesn’t leave. I don’t think think she’s a gold digger, (I really hate that term) but I do think she’s very aware about money and power influence her options and she’s more than willing to look the other way when it suits her)
you never have to say 'in my opinion'. First off we know its your opinion. Secondly, this is always said from a place of fear that someone will disagree and confront you. The cure for 'in my opinion syndrome' is to grow a pair and say what you want without being afraid
I've noticed that the only people who do any actual work on the show always get beat up or shafted in some way, except Vic Musto. Artie - Vesuvio fire, gets ripped off by Jean-Phillippe Vito's contractor cousin - Mustang Sal golf clubs him Horse trainer - Ralph burns the stables down Davey Scatino - bust out Hotel owners - mob become silent partners Jack Barone - clipped Epileptic waiter - Chris' brick + Paulie's .45 Truck driver - scathed and jacked Dr. Melfi - the stairwell, hiding in case of Junior's crew finding out Gloria - herself Valentina - herself + fire
You marry a mob boss and everyone suddenly assumes you’re mob wifed up, its a stereotype and its offensive!
You sit there and act like butter wouldn’t melt in your mouth
@@kevinoday3716 I actually walk around the house in 500 dollar shoes
And BITCH.and fiddle with the Air conditioner and BITCH
Yeah but, do you slip your lady a wafer???
Meadow scene comes to mind!
The bird feedah, whatever happened there...
Intel this and Coca Cola that..
@@iambored9872but oh wait there’s nothing!
You sound demented.
DUH BURD FEEDAH
WHATEVER HAPPENED?
That hand thing she does to Charmaine. Is so belittling. I would have ended our friendship after that night.
That kind of did end the friendship.You never see them being as close as they were in the beginning. In the rare instance they are together we see Carmela try to reach out or reconnect, Charmaine subtly rebuffs her attempts.
she did...
Lol wasn't that before Charmaine told Carmella that she slept with Tony in high school?
@@marqueswilliams345 it was
@@joeviv lol that's probably why Carmella did that grimy shit
The fact Carmela was still graceful and sweet to livia in the early seasons despite all the shit she put her though always made me give her more slack. Imagine being 19 and your mother in law on your wedding day calls you plain and her son is going to get tired of you??
was she wrong, tho?
@@MrBmick79 does it make what she said any more appropriate to say to a young girl on her wedding day? Livia said that because she’s a narcissist and can’t stand to see people happy. The day and moment wasn’t about her so she had to ruin it and make herself what she remembered about her wedding day. Not being happy
@@slydEvil35 you ain't wrong....
Frankly I think Olivia was trying to save her from her own fate.
@@slydEvil35right but she was also probably trying to save Carmela from her own fate. Just like Carmela was trying to save Janice from the same fate while she was trying on dresses to marry Richie.
But Janice is a totally different beast. She’s the real gangster.
Her hypocrisy makes her more human, relatable. I think we are all hypocrites in one way or another, and her hypocrisy makes people mad because maybe they see aspects of themselves in her hypocrisy.
The hypocrisy is important to her character but it’s annoying to the audience. She benefits from Tony’s ways but is always nagging him.
@@SJ-ni6iy right, so as stated in my comment, maybe what you are annoyed at is how she reflects aspects of yourself in her hypocrisy.
@@Flumpadorus The nagging is what got on my nerves, everyone knew she wasn’t going anywhere and was all talk, no action.
In one scene Meadow. Tells her father we're all hypocrites sometimes
Carmella was probably the most complex characters in the show
She was perfectly comfortable pulling the Mob Card when she needed to!
cod? COD?
Yeah duh, she’s a mob wife
All she did was ask for a "letter of recommendation"!😂
@@_ii_i And walk around that house in her diamonds and her $500 shoes like butta wouldn’t melt in her mouth.
The episode when she threatened Jeannine twin sister to write a recommendation letter for Meadow to Georgetown was classic Carmella
When she called Meadow, Fielder. I cracked up
@@D2attemp Me too
She was the real gangster
@skibbitybopmdada She knew how to use her power also
What, she brought a rigott pie with a transcript, was all.
My sympathy goes out to Marie Spatafore. Imagine laying with a man for 15 years only to find out he's been playing for the pink team.
Vito’s love for pool cues… whateva happend there?
@@dannyvalencia5224 very allegorical. The sacred and the propane.
As the catcher, not pitchin'.
Marie???? You insensitive fuck, What about Paulie? He got stabbed in da heart?
I think Marie knew, and she and Vito had an arrangement.
Carmela got back at Tony through her hairstyles.
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Long hair Carmela ❤❤
I disliked carmela for all the reasons you listed in the beginning. In the episode where tony gets pulled over by the cop, she's like "makes me sick, you'd think they'd be out arresting drug dealers" yeah, real criminals like dealers, not like the boss of a crime family 🙄
Junior and Mansion Lamps worked with the Nutley Walmart to distribute blow.
I hated her when she defended Tony because Bobby punched him. As if Tony wasn't being a jerk first
I am gonna be honest. Edie Falco's performance in 'Whitecaps' is some of the best I have ever seen, I would argue she outperformed everyone including James Gandolfini just in that episode alone, and that's truly saying something.
well said
Tony’s dialogue really gave Carmela the assist to express more anger, distress, frustration & utter disbelief that he doesn’t care or simply he just doesn’t give a fudge about what she’s says or how she feels especially considering this has been going on forever. She’s talking about the years of laying next to him in bed knowing where he’s been what he was doing & just having to stomach it & he brings up the bird feeder & of course stealing 40gs from your spouse is a big deal no matter what but he says it like we’re even making it as if that’s what caused him to start having his side chicks. It’s one thing if he cheated maybe once or twice but damn near their entire marriage. Plus the fact they argued throughout the entire house, it kinda felt as though Edie was an actual friend to Carmela & she’s been waiting curse Tony out for Carmela, I’ll give Tony this had that been Christopher or Richie the second Carmela opens her mouth to finally get that off her chest it would have turned into a domestic violence.
Her acting and those lines. The writing was spot on.
@@Rahim.ali80Domeshtic violensh? Conshidaa it shuishide!
I also really love her "you're my guy" scene in one of the coma episodes, really heart wrenching scene and it bothers me that I can't find it on youtube like others, masterclass in acting and underappreciated in my opinion.
When i thought i was out.. Pure Kino pulls me back in
Luc Abrazzi sleeps with the fishes. With 3 in the head and one in the table.
Change my meat to Black Forest.
People dislikes mob wives because they don´t own up to the fact they are also criminals. A mobster knows he is a criminal and acts accordingly, but the wives look to the other side and just enjoy the shiny things the husband got them with all that hard earn blood money.
There is a level of denial in mobsters too. Both with the outward portrayal as businessmen/ family men, and the euphemisms they use to hide the violence in their acts. He was "taken care of" (brutally murdered), they were "persuaded" (threatened to be thrown off a bridge). Bobby didn't even have to kill anyone until he was in his 40's, and most of the dirty work was taken care of by soldiers or 3rd party hit men. A boss may order hits, but rarely was he seeing any of the unsavory side of things unless he wanted to (like Tony and the Bevilaqua kid)
@@nicksinger1698 sure, but that's to keep their family bs between them ("you are only as good as your last envelope"). I mean in regards to actual justice, they know it's not unfair to go to jail (jail or bullet Tony used to say), bur the wives do seem surprise to the idea they could be prosecuted.
@@OrangeGeemer and half of them flip throughout the series
@@nicksinger1698 because they know they are guilty and want to cut a deal, not because they were surprise their job happens to be ilegal all of a sudden. That's some pretty thick skull you have there.
A mobster knows he's a criminal? Then why do they say, "He's a good earner" when they describe a fellow mobster?
“Mob Wife!?” You never admit the existence of our thing!
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Love or hate her, she's got some of the best scenes like the spousal fights and the therapy session with the honest therapist
lol not really
@@SwissMarksmanmid take and no counter argument L
She definitely was very hypocritical and I love how no matter how mad she was once he bought something for her everything was fine again but she still wanted more like when she got the brand new Porsche her first thought was I still wish u called the guy at the building department. But she was also a perfect wife for a mobster, she had his back and always defended her family against anyone outside the family and when the indictments were coming down she helped him clear out all the guns and money like she’s done it a million times before so she was a true ride or die wife
Eeeeeeeexcept once the gumar’s call to the house landed on her kids (a witness! Can’t have that!) THAT took some time, failed attempts at a decent divorce settlement, her own tryst, AND a plot of land for a spec house to buy her off!
I lost all sympathy for Carmela when she strong-armed the Cusamano sisters into writing Meadow a reference letter for Columbia.
I never had sympathy for her.
Was it actually sympathy, or was it plausible deniability that was lost?
I mean…it worked tho. Who wouldn’t do a little strong-arming for their child’s future?
@@Naturefan354me neither.
So thankful you shared this insightful commentary on Carmela’s character, I’ve always thought she was so much more complex than the community ever gave her credit for. 💗 thanks Kino!
It's disgusting, the way he simps for these low class women.
That scene with Carmela and her therapist is one of the best on the show
@@notyours4941 It's disgusting, the way he simps for these low class w0men.
@@GaSapienza It hits the audience over the head with the message that Tony is not our hero
Her secret's out. Why is she crying anyway?
Her sausage twirling gavone husband brought shame to the family.
Carmella helped me latched onto the show early on, as a woman her insight to the show is NECESSARY, Carm is what she is, and that's human like the rest of them. Sopranos just does characters right!
Daniel Chicallella from Whippany, now there's a mob wife.
Agreed - she’s also who Tony lets his guard down with the most (ironically, about everything except their marriage). She makes the same kind of choices (few hard/brave, most not) based on how she was raised and who she is and what she thinks she needs and what there is and what she manages to do with it all, just like all of us - what understandably colors our view of that is how, unlike the characters born into it, she made that one MAJOR choice to do it all within (and off of) a very reprehensible world (tho perhaps not as clearly at the time as we might think - he was no mob boss in the 70s)
Carmella is upset about Tony’s infidelity, because it directly affects her, but she never bothered to think about the possibility that he committed murder, despite the psychiatrist’s warning. I wonder what would have been her reaction if Tony went to trial for murder. Would her worldview collapse? Would she gaslight everyone else and claim it’s a false accusation?😊
I’ve never settled on whether or not she would have flipped with the feds if Tony was for sure going down…probably, after a long fight against it if visible destitution was assured, but under the guise of “doing it for the kids”
Never cared for Falco nothing attractive about her
She basically enabled him throughout the show. And she was not very nice to AJ
She wasn't offended that he was cheating. She hated that he was so blatant about it and would sleep with women she knew.
Dr. Melfì told him he would never leave his wife, but his wife would leave him.
And she was right, and he knew it.
Just wow.
Well... it's obvious why. What did his wife do to him really ? Just some passive aggressive BS but it was obvious she loved him completely - especially compared to how much love he got from his mother . What did he do? All that cheating comes to mind.... 😂 plus he was pretty narcissistic to boot. If he left her for one of his side pieces it wouldn't take long for them to do the passive aggressive stuff like Carmela as he starts cheats on them. Plus they might even cheat back - something Carmela would never be caught doing . Nah, leaving Carmela would be stupid but leaving him would be a non-brainer , especially if she would have succeeded in getting 1/2 of everything. Luxury life without his constant bullshit would be great... and she'd probably even hook him with a few times at her leisure
Could, not would.
Christopher didn't want to be poor like the family at the gas station. He just wanted to have kids.
By the time she's 28, she'll be in the 7th grade. But who tf cares, by then she'll be working at the Bing.
Carmela sought absolution from her sins, but refused to give up her life as a sinner. She was was haunted by her feelings of guilt, for enjoying the spoils of crime. Like Christopher's story, Carmella was an addict, to the lavish life.
After her breakup with Seigneur Jughead, she sought guidance from the African priest, then went to Melfi for a session, then went to Dr. Krakower, the Jewish therapist for advice. Each time, she just simply went back to Tony. That was her failing.
Carmela struggled with a conflicting need for redemption and the comforts provided by her marriage to Tony. Despite seeking help, she finds herself unable to break away from her life messed up by her mobbed up husband.
Her story is another slice of the show's exploration of morality, guilt.
Carmella ws the the definition of a trophy wife. She was a great cook, she was always well put together,you never saw her looking bummy and she swallowed on Tony's birthday. She was a dream wife.
Swallowed on Tony Birthday..... took me out 😂😂😂😂😂 broo good one
A dream wife swallows whenever you ask her to, and on your birthday brings a friend to help her.
@@Edis12121 Tony had to survive getting shot for that
@@qchang09 What about the thousand other 🐖🐖🐖 he stuck his 🍆 in??? If not for that he might have gotten more it often.
“If you woulda been born after those feminists, you woulda been the real gangster.”
I can see Meadow being the boss, even if it still had to be behind the scenes.
@@TooLoozea WOMAN Boss?
@@JoeSmith-cf5zs In America, you don't have?
Yes, to me The Sopranos is entirely about how difficult it is for people to change. So many characters are given chances to redeem themselves by taking the harder path and most don’t. For Carmela it came down to her meeting with the older therapist that Dr. Melfi referred her to. He was the only one who ever gave Carmela the unvarnished truth, even using the word “Mafia” to her. He told her that her only redemption would be to take her kids and leave with nothing from Tony, especially his blood money.
This becomes significant later when she can’t find a divorce lawyer to take her case and so she gives up and takes Tony back. She still had one option: an uncontested divorce in which she won’t need a lawyer to fight for money and a settlement from Tony. She could leave, take nothing from him, and start over.
It would be incredibly hard. She’d probably have to work an entry level job somewhere, maybe even move back in with the parents. But she would be free of Tony’s financial control and would finally set an honorable example for her children.
Of course in the end she can’t do it, and so makes a deal with the Devil to stay with Tony in exchange for money.
Fascinating character.
Would Tony have let her 'start over'?
Meadow - "Finn got there early one morning and saw him (Vito) going down on a security guard."
Carmella - "OH MY GAWWWD!"
One of the best reactions in the entire series. Died laughing when I first saw that.
I loved her totally deflated “Marco” call after her big show of fighting back the “bastards” and “idiots” who threw her in the pool. That’s Carmella’s entire arc right there.
Carmella never had the makings of a varsity stock investor
And that spec house she built was going to fall and crush a newborn baby ANY DAY
I'd take my cut, but wait; there's nothing left.
Gotta have those Enron type connections
@@qchang09 And that's why she couldn't sleep
Imagine.
Getting a facelift and one week later … you’re in a shinebox.
This guy,More creative than Spielberg!
Nostradamus ova here
Carmella's mask slipped when she strong armed ginny cuzamanos sister for meadows letter for university, she learnt from the best, great character.
Oh yeah, Fielder, right?
I haven't watched the series since it aired on HBO, but didn't she use Tony's connections to strong arm an inspector for her spec house also?
Dr Krakower called Carmella out on her BS.
How's that working out for her?
everyone else called out Adriana on her IBS
The jew shrink, whatever happened there.
@@invisibot6 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED THERE. That psychiatrist harshed Carmella's vibes without any provocation whatsoever!
“I can fix her” Furio 😂
They are all sociopaths, and none of them know anything about love or character.
That’s not necessarily how a sociopath is.
@beaugrif Jeez, stop crying.
That's the way to be, when you're a suburban housewife living in a mini-mansion, full of new Roche Bobois furniture, walking around in $500 dollar heels, and act like Buddha wouldn't meet you in your house.
Woah Dr Melfi ova here
@@robertlee4172Goesh down real shmoove like buttah in da mouf
Saying mobsters cheating on their wives is cliche, is like saying mobsters hurting people is cliche. It’s built into what they do.
Finally finished this show like 2 days ago, thanks for all the awesome sopranos content
For the first time ?
@@playboideeandre7526 yeah man
@@daforbe you super late lol
@@playboideeandre7526 better late than never
@@daforbe true
Could you imagine what would have happened if one of Tony's past affairs came back into the picture with Tony's illegitimate child? I would have loved to see how Carmela would have reacted to seeing a child of one of Tony's past flings, how it would have made her feel and how he would have treated the love child and their mother.
I could imagine it as a Catelyn Stark and Jon Snow situation
She would have had pure hatred
If Carmela has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Carmela has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Carmela has only one fan then that is me. If Carmela has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Carmela, then I am against the world.
Great video as always
This is a very interesting take on Carmela. Many fans think that Carmela is too annoying, needy, and weak. Truth is, she is more complicated than a lot of people think.
Carmela also has her moments where we think lowly of her, such as making snide remarks at AJ and at one point calling him an animal.
AJ deserved those remarks 100%. If he was born in a family in any other culture except a Western one, his parents would have been far more harsh towards him.
Male fans mostly. I love Carmella and Janice. All the characters are well written, but I love it when female characters are written realistically and not some fantasy.
@@lavinder11You don't have to be a guy to hate Janice. She is an absolute piece of crap without any redeeming qualities. She is even a murderer ffs. And no, it wasn't self defense. It was a vengeful murder. I'm not saying Richie didn't deserve it, but that doesn't excuse her in the slightest.
Her homophobic tirade at Meadow's dinner is the other Carmella low point that comes to mind.
It is interesting that in both the Sopranos and Breaking Bad, that the wife characters seem to be more criticized. I mean, I personally think both husband and wife have their flaws, pretty obviously, but it is funny that people equate selling meth to being unsupportive during a birthday, or murdering people to being materialistic when they talk about liking a character. For me, it's that Carmella and Skyler were just SO CLOSE to being the decent people they want to be (or try and convince people they are), and failing due to their decisions, where Walter (in the later seasons) and Tony (pretty much from the get go) are already lost causes.
It's this but also unfortunately just misogyny. Women are very often judged more harshly than men, held to higher moral expectations, especially since our first female interactions (usually) after birth is our mothers, its shocking for Mum's to be potentially flawed, triggers insecurity and trauma.
You know that the wife in breaking bad chose deliberately to take part in the money laundering, and that the wife in the sopranos denounced divorce for fear of not having money, right?
Ya, but Carmela's family was related to Dicky Moltesanti. She went to high school with Artie, Tony and who knows what other "connected" kid. They knew at a very young age, what their families were involved in.
@@stuffwithsoph8264 I'm confused. Is it misogany (hatred of women), or high expectations due to holding our mothers up on a pedestal? You made both arguments
@@martino.2450 Yep. But laundering money isn't the same as arranging 9 inmates in prison to be killed at the same time. And not divorcing a criminal is not the same as killing and intimidating witnesses to your crimes. That was my entire point.
Sorry to be a pedant, this is a great video. But you said the title of the Andrea Bocelli song translates in English to "Time to Say Goodbye".
That's not true. Yes, "Time to Say Goodbye" is the title of the English language version of the song. But the Italian title actually translates to "I will leave with you." Kind of the opposite sentiment!
Charmaine was ultimately the closest thing this show had to a winner. She never once relented and her refusal to get mobbed up even indirectly. Carmella ends up a widow, Tony's brain splattered all out on the table right in front of her... The piano finally dropped on. Meadow gave up her ambitions to do anything moral to become a lawyer for mobsters and other white collar criminals.
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She worries about financial security in the future but spends money like it grows on trees
Of course her lifestyle is reprehensible but I'm sick of seeing people say she was just as bad as Tony. Yeah right lol
Her father in law was a saint.
She was absolutely just as bad as tony she lied like him,treated people like him, threatened people like him, got jealous like him and if any of the guys were ballsy enough to advance on her she would’ve accepted it in a heartbeat. Don’t kid yourself if she was a man she would’ve been worse than tony
@@Shungago123 It's mostly because she didn't murder her own family members with her own two hands (among many other crimes Tony committed) but I guess you are saying that is a negligible aspect of Tony's character? Personally, I don't think she deserves even close to equal blame for those crimes, even if she does deserve some for being complicit. I doubt she would have remained complicit if she had known what Tony did to Adriana and Chris.
@@fresca4008 that makes sense, however I believe she would’ve stayed complicit she knew what happened with Richie Aprile and to some degree pussy. If tony spun her some well layered lie about Adriana or Chris was gonna rat them out she would’ve agreed with tony killing them
Ya that's only a point that dummies make cuz they think it sounds smart. She's quite literally nowhere near as bad as Tony and the other mobsters.
>takes care of the house
>has multiple maids
Yeah, she's a pampered queen who knows EXACTLY how her husband makes his money.
Brilliantly acted by Edie Falco.
Great vid! I hope you do a Meadow, Adriana, or Christopher video next!
Or a video of the Aprile Family curse!
Outa respect for Jacky Jr.'s fawtha
Ya I actually searched for that Aprile Family Curse video after seeing that thumbnail and was so upset I couldn't watch it!
she looks like what madonna would look like if she aged gracefully
She never was a Madonna Madonna was a beautiful sexy Italian girl!!!!!!
I think you can also highlight her against Phil’s wife Patty as a significant foil. Patty can be seen as Carmela without the conflict, like how Phil is seen as Tony without the sympathy.
Patty is someone who has embraced the hollowness of her lifestyle and the willful ignorance of being a mob wife. Her main defining scenes are her vocally espousing her Catholic faith, primarily to belittle others, and not-so-subtly pushing Phil to kill Vito, her sister’s husband and caretaker, for being a homosexual.
When it comes down to it, I think Patty and Carmine both ultimately wash their hands of being mob wives. However, Carmella is stuck in a self-inflicted hell by her own guilt. Patty IS the hell who’s convinced herself of her own righteousness, and the ultimate endpoint of not just Carmela’s character arc, but Meadow’s as well.
The idea of being mad at her for being a hypocrite when every single character in the show is shown to be a hypocrite really shows that some people just didn't understand the show.
Right here. They are all part of the same hypocrisy. And it does extend to their families.
Paulie and Uncle Jr. Are the only non hypocrites (or at least their hypocrisy is relatively minor) it's why they both never got married
@@poogmaster1 every person ever is/was a hypocrite in this show (and real life), its about being able to recognize it and work on yourself. Carmela was well aware, she is on a guilt trip and coping from season one and that whole thing with the priest. But when she got the chance to redeem herself by leaving Tony and starting over with nothing she refused and decided luxurious lifestyle is worth more than modest life without being involved in crime
It's amazing how much the women in these shows are hated for character flaws that may cause problems in their families and may get on tbe audience's nerves, yet the men characters are straight up murderers and theives who get married knowing that their wives had better accept their other women. The men are still considered heroic or likeable.
"You know, Quasimodo predicted all this..."
He plays for Nickelback on drums.
The episode where Karen dies you really get to see the hierarchy of Carmela’s relationship with her friends
I love the Carmella character. She choose comfort and luxury against her own better judgement and paid the price.
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1. Thank you for pointing out Skyler White. I must be one of the few people that actually sympathize with her.
2. Carmela's relationship with the priest was very sensual with a lot of pent up and unresolved sexual tension. The way it was portrayed was spectacular (at least to me) It would be nice to see more portrayals like that. Very subtle yet also not so subtle.
I never understood the hatred towards Skyler. Walt was destroying their lives, and lied constantly
There is love there
It fades and gets mixed up over time
But the money sure helps.
I love how you people deconstruct a TV show like it's Milton.
I love how you people deconstruct a book like it's Chase
What do you mean by “you people”?
I think the women in the bad protagonist are very reflective of those men. Relationships are symbiotic, obviously needing common medium to combine the different persons. In this case I see Carmela as much a criminal mastermind as her husband. She got the nost money out of a mob boss as anyone else can claim. She never had to commit a crime. And she is protected by law from Tony's criminal schemes. She had all the dinners and vacations and cars and houses and never risked her own neck too much. That's a solid criminal in my book.
It's funny Carmela doesn't see herself as a feminist. She is the personification of white western feminism. Lives in luxury she didn't have to work for, complains about the evil of the system she both thrives and is complicit in and can quickly play the victim. She is an exceptional character and Falco's performance matches Gandolfini's which is no mean feat.
incel
Better than being the personification of brown southern/eastern anything.
@@Musso8771 Based
This is a great bite sized analysis of the complexity of the human nature portrayed through story telling. You‘ve come a long way since soprano’s logs. This one was especially good
So she goes for the bad boy, wants benefits without responsibility and loves to spend money. That's not complex, it's typical. Charmaine is complex.
Carmela evolves from a character used to critique rich, spoiled housewives into a true friend, a selfless mother and someone who is desperately starved for true love and understanding. Remember the scene when Tony and Carmela are going through a divorce and Meadow asks her: "How could you eat sh*t from him for all those years"? Carmela stays silent, but is literally looking at her child, the reason she did it. Based on Carmela's relationship with Furio, you could tell the things she misses the most are communication and romance. I think she wouldn't care about not living in a mansion or driving fancy cars if she had those. She knew the luxurious life was temporary, superficial, and meaningless anyhow - especially given what happened to Rosalie after Jackie Sr. died. Was she a hypocrite sometimes? Yes, but in a much more benign and relatable way than Tony. One of the best characters on the show for sure.
I always upvote people who point this hypocrisy in the fandom out. More people need to be saying it. Not only was Carmela no worse than Tony, but she wasn't even close. And yet, she like so many TV wives, from Skyler White to Peggy Hill, people do these mental gymnastics to try and prove they aren't hypocrites for hating the wives/moms more than obvious villains.
People don't really get it, but being a big badass criminal is an inherent virtue. A powerful, dangerous, leader of men, risk taking guy is viewed favorably by everyone. Just because you append thief and murderer to that doesn't remove the status, not unconsciously. The mob wives on the other hand just come across as hangers-on, parasites that don't even have the decency of getting their own hands dirty. That said, I never saw carmella as annoying, but skyler is just played 100% bitch mode (and breaking bad is 99% power fantasy 1% character drama so her reasonable objections become more like calls to turn off the TV in context)
The judgmental nature, elitism and hypocrisy are the qualities that make Carmella a relatable character.
Babe wake up! Pure Kino dropped a new sopranos video!
Ugh
Like you’re sleeping with someone 😂
Carmela could have slowly funneled out money somewhere secret then when she wanted to divorce she'd have a big money package to live on.
Dude, you’re amazing at this! Keep the videos coming.
Carmella gets hotter with every rewatch
Little Carmine had it better than Tony ever did, much more powerful father, more riches, less work, genuine loving family and won at the end.
Great essay, well done and thank you, some keen observations in there.
Edie as Carmella is probably my favourite portrayal by ANY actor in a tv show….her competition is Alison Janney as CJ.
It is baffling that people hate Skyler more than Carmela lol.
Skyler did nothing wrong
@@bookbm wasn't she responsible for paralyzing her ex lover? And didn't she reap the benefits while WW was committing crimes and knew about it and enabled it until s*** hit the fan?? WTFYM she did NOTHING wrong?
She was one of the only people who got some serious dunks on Tony. My favorite one is the S2 episode where Tony went to the hospital because his ex-side girlfriend tried to do Sudoku. At the end of the episode she starts listing off all this stuff Tony has to start doing because she's going on vacation, and if she can't, well... she's gonna . Herself
It was a great takedown lol
Just grabbed some gabbagool to watch this one =)
Gabbagool? Over here 👈
7:30, when you put it that way, it makes me feel really bad for her. She is still a piece of work.
It's a bad thing is if Tony were to leave the mob a hit will mainly be put on to him and is a family basically cuz Tony because he knows too much they would have to move somewhere else
This is a brilliant and really informative analysis! Thanks for doing it.
A She was a gold digger,in B She took Forty grand from the bird feeduuuuuuuuuuuh.
Pure kino, ma man
.. I'm liking what I'm seeing here, diving in now
Great video, though at 11:30, I would say that Rose from "90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days" is the most complex and fascinating woman on television.
Carm is the most tragic figure of all. Ultimately To weak to do the right thing
I was waiting on this one 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Carm was something else… the psych wanted to help sweet sweet AJ 😢 he never had a chance 😢 imagine him with Tony gone 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Asshole Robert Frost!
Great video, man. Your Sopranos vids are always 10/10.
Dang! Almost at 95k! I remember when you were reviewing each episode of Sopranos, before Saints of Newark came out. Jeez how time flies! 😭
But anyway, almost 100k. It’s long over due. 💪🏽🎉
I could understand why people hated Skyler on Breaking Bad. But I never really hated Carmela, and don't particularly understand why she would be hated. I thought a lot of her negative attributes were just a mix of complacency, stress from being a mob wife (and mother), and culture (the Italians are a very conservative bunch both in the show and reality)
Or maybe I just think Edie Falco is smoking hot (especially in the moments where she is wearing little to no makeup) Regardless of coomery; Edie Falco did a great job as Carmela.
You have that exactly backwards. There was zero reason to hate Skyler. Carmela was reprehensible.
I think the difference is that Skyler tended to be a hindrance to what Walt was trying to do. Carm voiced her crisis of conscience often enough to be a bit of a killjoy, but like the one therapist told her, carm was ultimately Tony's accomplice. We're rooting for our sociopathic criminal leading man in both shows. Skylar was often an annoyance to Walt. But it's hard to hate Carmella when she's the one keeping Tony together and all she asks for is some respect and her cut.
I wonder if Carmela's joy over Tony's luxurious gifts represented a physical token of his love for her. You can't see or touch someone's love, but you sure can see and feel a giant diamond ring, a sports car, and a fur coat. Maybe it gave her a temporary security.
I gotta say, even though she complains alot i never thought of her as annoying. Whenever she complains, its a legit criticism on Tony. She never got to the lengths of Janice or Livia
Always like Carmela’s character. I like her more since incels hate her and glorify Tony.
Characters like this are why The Sopranos was so revolutionary at the time. Movies and TV shows used to be black and white with clear heroes and villains, but then came Sopranos, a show whose main cast is practically all scumbag sociopaths and narcissists.
There always something new to find with your content
I never connected the line with sal's wife about the "hey I'm home" with the ending scene of that episode
Great scenes with her but the most impactful to me is still season 3 with Carmela and Dr. Krakower. “You’re not listening to me, you must trust your first instinct, take only your children, what’s left of them, and leave him.” I wonder when the last scene of that series clears and Tony’s had his brains blown out by the mobster in the Members Only jacket right in front of AJ and her sitting at the table across from Tony with Meadow walking in the front door just in time to see it all, how many times those thoughts went through Carmela’s head again.
Pretty sure the whole family was taken out, for spite.
I don’t know. She did steal at least half a million dollars from the boyd feeduh!
Bird feeder, you sound demented.
Carmela is certainly a complex and sympathetic character but she’s no innocent. She is absolutely complicit in Tony’s crimes because of the lifestyle it affords her. In the end that’s why she doesn’t leave. I don’t think think she’s a gold digger, (I really hate that term) but I do think she’s very aware about money and power influence her options and she’s more than willing to look the other way when it suits her)
you never have to say 'in my opinion'. First off we know its your opinion. Secondly, this is always said from a place of fear that someone will disagree and confront you. The cure for 'in my opinion syndrome' is to grow a pair and say what you want without being afraid
Someone watched the new Sopranos documentary, I see?
I wanna watch it too bro
I watched it and I am so glad I did. Part 1 is good and what you'd expect from a "retrospective", but Part 2 is the real eye opener.
They should have mentioned directors more, they must have had some influence in specific episodes they directed.
u need to make a video on rosalie aprielle, she is the most matured amongst all mob wives
And her fall from grace as Mafia royalty once Jackie died that fall was evident at Jackie Jr funeral
Great essay - nuanced and insightful!
*_No woman alive could go from a "4" to an "8" quicker than Carm ..._*
Carmella wouldn't have acted that way to Tony. Not even a little bit. Her allowance would have been cut down...... and what would she have said?
I think theres a couple lines showing that Carmela's family is a mob family, though her father is indeed a civilian.
Yep, Chris was her cousin
Hence the goomars. They don't whine and complain. Less problems.
All of them whined and complained, Irina, Gloria, Valentina etc did you watch the show?
@@_ii_i Get a different goomar. Problem fixed.
I've noticed that the only people who do any actual work on the show always get beat up or shafted in some way, except Vic Musto.
Artie - Vesuvio fire, gets ripped off by Jean-Phillippe
Vito's contractor cousin - Mustang Sal golf clubs him
Horse trainer - Ralph burns the stables down
Davey Scatino - bust out
Hotel owners - mob become silent partners
Jack Barone - clipped
Epileptic waiter - Chris' brick + Paulie's .45
Truck driver - scathed and jacked
Dr. Melfi - the stairwell, hiding in case of Junior's crew finding out
Gloria - herself
Valentina - herself + fire
@@_ii_i oh yeah I called him Barone instead of Massarone