I do not think it is an Asgard computer core. 1) That is not what the Asgard database power core looks like. 2) That is an Asgard console, which has been shown in engineering of a 304 and Asgard ships. 3) It was never mentioned the Phoenix had an Asgard power core. Sure, it had upgrades but if it did had the power core or a ZPM or something equal, it what have had no trouble with those 2 wraith ships as the power requirements would have maxed out the full potential of the Asgard technology e.g. Asgard hyperdrive full potential reached with ZPM, 4 days to travel to Atlantis in Pegasus galaxy, compared to Earth naquadah reactors, 18 days travel. It is also not mentioned if 304s are powered with mark 1s or mark 2s or both naquadah generators before SG-1 episode Unending.
@@johndoeenemy still to this day, Stargate is the most science grounded TV show, even though they had to take liberties for the sake of the show. But the sheer involvement of the US air force and NASA should tell everything already.
SciFi (now SyFy) cancelled all its shows long before their time (Except Stargate; shoulda ended that one with Season 8, but that wasn't as SciFi Show until Season 9 anyway, or they would have cancelled it after Season 3, or whatever would have been the worst possible time.) At least Battlestar Galactica knew it was going to end before it ended, unlike SGA, Farscape, Warehouse 13, Dark Matter, and many others.
Moral of the story, if you’re going to be a threat, don’t be predictable. Winning is beating the odds, so don’t get greedy if you do. Expect to revert to the mean if you don’t stop while ahead.
Shame Asgard shields weren't more up to snuff, you'd think given their conflicts they would be. I imagine Lantean shields and weapons were as powerful as they were because of their prolonged war with the Wraith. Asgard cores and beam weapons, Lantean shields and missile weapons (drones) with 2 ZPM's and the size of a Beliskner-Class ship and you'd be looking at one uber earth vessel.
The Stargate series, all of them, or any of them if you will, was the best T.V. series to ever run, I miss seeing the cast of these shows, the movies made after they ended were great also; but, like all good things they all came to an end..........so very sad indeed!
This is a good example of how the Lantians lost to the Wraith. Ships are better in every way but in the end if the Wraith manage to force an engagement with sufficient forces they win.
@@ge2719yeah. The trick with having this kind of massive fire superiority is never engage for longer than you have to. Pop in, cripple the hive hyperdrives, destroy what you can and leave. Jump in a million klicks five minutes later and keep stacking the deck. You're faster and vastly more powerful. Only keep your main guns, shields, hyperdrives and power systems online. If your systems take a hammering disengage for a whole.
It really pisses me off how technology in Stargate seems to work depending on the script. One episode Tau'ri ships get into battle with 12 hive ships or destroys several Ori ships, the other it gets beaten by two hives or few ha'taks.
That was 3-4 years prior. Wraith weaponary has changed and Michael has knowledge of Earth and Ancient technology and could of improved the Hive's weapons. Their weapons were also entirely proportionate to their energy. Remember the ZPM hive's artillery was insanely powerful that completely disabled the Daedalus, the Apollo and the Sun Tzu with one salvo each.
No it doesn't. And the 304 beam weapons were down when the Lucian alliance attacked. The Hammond was on a secret mission before going to icarus. They planned on making the repairs on route and when they got there.
This episode always bothered me as it was well established that wraith hives had no defence against the advanced asguard weapons and in a few shots the wraith where gone, so even if the Phoenix was pulled into an ambush of 3 ships it was just 6 shots away from a total wipe and the Dedalus class was well known for its ability to tank hive sip fire
If made today Carter would've survived, insulted Rodney for taking so long, defeated Michael in five minutes, murdered thousands of innocent civilians in the process but got a medal for gallantry when she got back to earth and be made general in charge of Star Gate Command.
@@100dampf no I’m saying as soon as she noticed those 2 hives were in orbit and they started firing she should’ve jumped, the 304’s shields are more than a match for only 2 hives even without a ZPM. They definitely had enough time to escape but you know, plot
@@100dampf i mean ammo without a gun is useless, you still need the ship to protect these people jumping to hyperdrive to evade fire and then back in for an attack pass would've been smarter
@@Dzejk86alternatively they could have just you know, killed the hive infront of them by firing at it. They already showed that Asgard beams can kill a hive in seconds, but it takes multiple hives minutes to knock out the sheilds on a human battle cruiser. Also "were boxed in" it's space so unless its litterally a box, nope. Your smaller and faster than the hives, your sheilds are stronger than anything short of atlantis itself, and if you fly close to one of them the others can't fire on you without hitting it and it can't bring all its weapons to bear on you at that range. You can even start throwing nukes at that range, they then need to change target to those or risk destruction (your sheilds however can shrug off a nuke, even goauld ha'tak can do that, wraith hulls can't however). Basically when your ships that much stronger, your drives operational, and your not an idiot, you can't lose this fight. Had they brought 20 hives and hit you the moment you emerged, then maybe they win, maybe.
What bothers me is how the Phoenix jumps in, destroys a hive ship with ease, but then chickens out on the second one. The Daedalus, even with less advanced tech, was able to withstand twelve hives for a few minutes, but that one taking a few potshots at the Phoenix was supposed to be an issue?
I think one thing you have to recall on the Phoenix in that timeline. The IOA gave it to Atlantis only half done. The ship frame was completed, but most of the systems were still offline. It took the crews weeks to get it working. Also the other ships if they got damaged would go back to Earth for a full repair and upgrade that would last months. So if the Daedalus was getting repaired then the Apollo would do the supply run to Atlantis. In this alt timeline the Phoenix stayed in Pegasus and was repaired as best they could at Atlantis. Plus Phoenix was doing weekly attack runs against Hive ships even if it was not fully repaired. And the IOA was not worrying about the rest of Pegasus by then. All they cared about was the city. If they could have moved the city back to the Milky Way and left everyone in Pegasus behind they would have done so. I am thinking the IOA would let Carter and co fight as best they could, but if something happened to Phoenix then they would not do anymore to fight Michael or his forces. And its shown later on in the future that the city was abandoned later on. My guess would be Michael took over the rest of the galaxy and some time later lead an assault on the milky way galaxy. Remember what old Mckay told General Lorne "You know what is happening here." Meaning something was going on after the Ori were gone.
I loved both SG-1 and Atlantis. I heard that Joe Flanigan tried to buy the rights to the show but the company went into bankruptcy or something and that was that. SGU was such a disappointment. Every episode was just listening to them argue about who was in charge and who was porking who. Every now and then they mentioned space or showed an alien for a second but then right back into the soap opera dialogue.
I love Stargate, but i have one question about this, Carter crashed the ship into the wraith ship, but i saw an Asgard beam after she crashed, is that from Sheppard and Caldwells ship.
Much as I loved this show growing up... eh.. .how do you get 'boxed' in when in 3D space? And, why do the good guys so often take a beating first before firing back? Asking for a friend.
In this case it look like by "boxed" in maybe over lapping field of fire by many hive ships. I know three ships doesn't seems enough to "box" in. One they were on top of the Phoenix and closing in. With the planet under the Phoenix and hive on top in a triangle like formation/ encirclement. Two there's way more hive ships than on screen. As for this case why they didn't get the first shot. It was a trap. Don't know why didn't return fire automatically thou. In lore. Maybe rule of engagement? In reality story reasons the enemy had to disable/ win over the Phoenix somehow.
In this case/ timeline Michael ,the smart and cunning wraith, probably upgraded the hive ship weapons somehow. And set up the field where all the main guns on the hives could hit them. Even thou at the start the first hive was bow point at.
2:38 is just a proof why tauri were mostly loosing space battles. Really, just 2/3 missiles per ship? In Star Carrier book series each ship is launching at least 12 fighter (still now enough according to me) and each is shooting over a dozen of ai-controlled nukes. If tauri ships would at least shoot 50 nukes per enemy vessel, we would be unstoppable :P
There are at least 16 VLS tubes on a BC-304. They could shoot more than that. The question remains why they didn't. Supply issues? Limited CGI budget? Who knows.
The Phoenix managed to land a missile strike on two of three hives. Carter rammed the undamaged hive, and the resulting blast overwhelmed the other two hives which had taken damage.
Я наверное не видел этого эпизода,хотя казалось что смотрел всё.Жалко что закрыли сериал .Можно сказать в кульминации.Так и не узнаем мы,куда летит судьба
Spoilers: Yea but then they would also not find the cure which they eventually perfected, cure that removed wraith need to feed on humans(without side effects), putting an end to the Wraith war.
I wish they had built some actual warships. The daedalus designs were good, but way too small once they met the Ori and Wraith. Build something of comparable size with good armor and weapons, which would be completely reasonable for humans to do, and they would have a chance. A true battleship class warship would have been amazing even if we just saw it coming out of the shipyard at the end of the series. Use all the technologies they have access to
The Tau’ri had access to a lot of technology, but their resources were very limited. Power generation and transmission were also a problem. They could barely power the ships they had, a large class was out of the question. Still, after the Asgard upgrades those boats were extremely tough. Few ships in the Milky Way could survive if they end up on the wrong end of one. In a 1v1 confrontation, a Ha’tak for example is no match for a Daedalus class ship.
The axiom of combat duty: 90% Boredom. 11% Terror. (Yes, that works out to 101%. That's combat.) This extends to capital ships of a fleet. Ninety percent of the time they're standing there for show. A battleship is a lot of resources deposited into one hull when you could devote the supplies and personelle to a squadron of cruisers instead.
@BogeyTheBear true, although they never built up any sort of a fleet, and they needed larger vessels since they were traveling long distances, especially once they got the zpm hyperdrive and were flying to Atlantis. Ideally they would have a carrier group with the Daedalus class or larger as a carrier and then multiple support ships. They had power generation problems on the first ship(x301?) But even before the Azgard gave them technology, they were building very powerful naquida(sp?) reactors, and they wouldn't have had to shrink them nearly as much on a capital ship. Honestly it should have been a true capital ship plus Daedalus class ships as escorts by the end. They did not build up industry nearly as much as they should have, even if they had to keep it top secret. They had 5 other countries helping.
I always wondered why Atlantis hadn't been visited again by humans, were we/earth wiped out? Always found it quite eerie that Atlantis had sat there unoccupied for thousands? of years and no one had returned.
One thing that always pissed me off is that despite fast evasive movement from a small ship the energy weapons seem to home in on the ship and hit everytime. They are supposed to be energy based cannons which obviously have no course correction abilities so how the fuck are they moving after firing in order to hit the target. Nonsense.
They were triangulated with three hostiles well extended in their respective engagement envelopes. You're in their sights: Running only means you die tired.
@@BogeyTheBear Not if you could literally jump into hyperspace and drop back out at a tactically better position ( or just run away), there is in fact NO way to "box" in a ship in space with 3 opposing ships. Space is 3 dimensional, it would take at the very least 6 ships to box in an opposing ship.
That's why you enter a system 1/4 light Year out and check out the situation. Did you know it's 2 light years to Ort cloud at the edge our solar system? Space is big, but in sci-fi stories they make everything seem small and close by.
The music here is terrible. No drama, no emotion. If this were Star Trek Voyager this would have been an epic moment. The sets and effect were on par with this - the music and integrity/effort of the performances is what elevates something in quality and makes it unmissable. Disappointing flat ending for Major Carter here.
I've always wondered to whom are they shouting at... Evasive manuvers, return fire, raise shield.... Ect ect. Since the entire ship operation is seemingly run from those 2 console every single time 😂
Humans in SG1 and Atlantis got to the point that they were so OP, until plot reasons required them not to be, so they nerfed them in the most ridiculous ways. How the f does the Phoenix get dropped on like with all its advanced tech by only 3 ships?!? Daedalus went up against like 12 and survived? And if didn't even have the beam weapons lol They could have jumped. They could have beamed nukes on to the hives or right next to the hive ships if prevented to beam them inside. Just lazy writing for shock value
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Ahhhhhh the famous last words of the hero
“Go! I’ll be right behind you”
One of the best if not the best episode of SGA
Love how on Carter's ship, the Asgard core is kept on the bridge.
I do not think it is an Asgard computer core. 1) That is not what the Asgard database power core looks like. 2) That is an Asgard console, which has been shown in engineering of a 304 and Asgard ships. 3) It was never mentioned the Phoenix had an Asgard power core. Sure, it had upgrades but if it did had the power core or a ZPM or something equal, it what have had no trouble with those 2 wraith ships as the power requirements would have maxed out the full potential of the Asgard technology e.g. Asgard hyperdrive full potential reached with ZPM, 4 days to travel to Atlantis in Pegasus galaxy, compared to Earth naquadah reactors, 18 days travel. It is also not mentioned if 304s are powered with mark 1s or mark 2s or both naquadah generators before SG-1 episode Unending.
@@johndoeenemy still to this day, Stargate is the most science grounded TV show, even though they had to take liberties for the sake of the show. But the sheer involvement of the US air force and NASA should tell everything already.
@@johndoeenemy well I can't argue with someone being cynical, and probably nihilistic.
@BaWaH33 it was mostly sci-fi, but it included some of fantasy and religious metaphysics too. Ascent beings, good ones vs evil ones.
😂😂😂😂@@KaptifLaDistillerie
I mean Star Trek and Star Wars are classics, but Stargate takes the crown when it comes to sci-fi with a well-crafted, creative storyline.
It does, afraid so.
Nope startrek TNG ds9 voyager enterprise, Babylon5 still are some of the best sci fi to be written
I so miss Friday Night Scifi channel. Stargate, Stargate Atlantis, Battle Star Galactica, Farscape...
SciFi (now SyFy) cancelled all its shows long before their time (Except Stargate; shoulda ended that one with Season 8, but that wasn't as SciFi Show until Season 9 anyway, or they would have cancelled it after Season 3, or whatever would have been the worst possible time.) At least Battlestar Galactica knew it was going to end before it ended, unlike SGA, Farscape, Warehouse 13, Dark Matter, and many others.
@@Karthos1000 I think what really killed them was the decision to go with 'shit friday movie' instead of pumping real money into real shows..
Farscape streams its seasons on youtube for free so if you want to watch all 4 seasons plus the miniseries, go for it.
so say we all.
Those were the good times bruddah 🤝
One of the best side story.... this last scene was magnificent
Moral of the story, if you’re going to be a threat, don’t be predictable. Winning is beating the odds, so don’t get greedy if you do. Expect to revert to the mean if you don’t stop while ahead.
It's a game. You win until you don't
It's war. Tactical success buys you only a day. Then the enemy tries to solve their problem-- _you._
moral of the story - don't fly without plot shields. Every time a BC-304 turns off it's plot shield it gets blown up.
The art of war is indeed deception.
I miss this kind of show.
1:10 the power of the Asgard beam weapons .. soooo good
Shame Asgard shields weren't more up to snuff, you'd think given their conflicts they would be. I imagine Lantean shields and weapons were as powerful as they were because of their prolonged war with the Wraith.
Asgard cores and beam weapons, Lantean shields and missile weapons (drones) with 2 ZPM's and the size of a Beliskner-Class ship and you'd be looking at one uber earth vessel.
If they only had a few O'Neill class ships... The Asgard must have had a few left over.
It's a reverse-engineered version of the Ori beam weapon. It's going to cut through targets like a hot knife through smooth butter.
@@develynseether4426shield tech in Stargate seems limited by the power supply mostly. A ZPM powered shield is nearly impenetrable.
The Stargate series, all of them, or any of them if you will, was the best T.V. series to ever run, I miss seeing the cast of these shows, the movies made after they ended were great also; but, like all good things they all came to an end..........so very sad indeed!
Blake 7 had better effects tho🙂
I would have loved an SGA film tho, to late now
I cried. Not ashamed.
always love a good time travel or alternate reality them but this one is particularly good
This is a good example of how the Lantians lost to the Wraith. Ships are better in every way but in the end if the Wraith manage to force an engagement with sufficient forces they win.
also helps the wraith when the ship just doesn't fire at anything with its massive powerful main gun. or try to run at faster than light speed...
@@ge2719yeah.
The trick with having this kind of massive fire superiority is never engage for longer than you have to.
Pop in, cripple the hive hyperdrives, destroy what you can and leave. Jump in a million klicks five minutes later and keep stacking the deck.
You're faster and vastly more powerful. Only keep your main guns, shields, hyperdrives and power systems online. If your systems take a hammering disengage for a whole.
It really pisses me off how technology in Stargate seems to work depending on the script. One episode Tau'ri ships get into battle with 12 hive ships or destroys several Ori ships, the other it gets beaten by two hives or few ha'taks.
It happened so often it became really frustrating.
That was 3-4 years prior. Wraith weaponary has changed and Michael has knowledge of Earth and Ancient technology and could of improved the Hive's weapons. Their weapons were also entirely proportionate to their energy. Remember the ZPM hive's artillery was insanely powerful that completely disabled the Daedalus, the Apollo and the Sun Tzu with one salvo each.
everyones still talking about stargate..one of the best series ever
No it doesn't. And the 304 beam weapons were down when the Lucian alliance attacked. The Hammond was on a secret mission before going to icarus. They planned on making the repairs on route and when they got there.
Say all you want about StarGate Tech levels, I'll only have one response. . .
Star Trek Shield Systems. WTF.
This episode always bothered me as it was well established that wraith hives had no defence against the advanced asguard weapons and in a few shots the wraith where gone, so even if the Phoenix was pulled into an ambush of 3 ships it was just 6 shots away from a total wipe and the Dedalus class was well known for its ability to tank hive sip fire
If you're going to go - THATS the way to do it..
Love you Sam
If made today Carter would've survived, insulted Rodney for taking so long, defeated Michael in five minutes, murdered thousands of innocent civilians in the process but got a medal for gallantry when she got back to earth and be made general in charge of Star Gate Command.
"You get yourself to safety, I'll be right behind you"
Oldest lie of mankind
"A captain should always go down with their ship" - Khan Star Trek Into Darkness
Miss this show so much
still want this soundtrack
Any luck finding it?
The music @1:44 would have been great intro theme for a battle ship based star gate show
Always found it funny how the Hive Ships suddenly got homing energy weapons lol
What a Kirk move.
I know it was because of plot but I never understood why Sam just didn’t jump them back into hyperspace, it’s been done on many occasions before
Because the Hyperdrive was about to explode
@@100dampf no I’m saying as soon as she noticed those 2 hives were in orbit and they started firing she should’ve jumped, the 304’s shields are more than a match for only 2 hives even without a ZPM. They definitely had enough time to escape but you know, plot
@@cmj0929 and leave the humans on the planet to die? Doesn't sound like sam
@@100dampf i mean ammo without a gun is useless, you still need the ship to protect these people
jumping to hyperdrive to evade fire and then back in for an attack pass would've been smarter
@@Dzejk86alternatively they could have just you know, killed the hive infront of them by firing at it. They already showed that Asgard beams can kill a hive in seconds, but it takes multiple hives minutes to knock out the sheilds on a human battle cruiser.
Also "were boxed in" it's space so unless its litterally a box, nope. Your smaller and faster than the hives, your sheilds are stronger than anything short of atlantis itself, and if you fly close to one of them the others can't fire on you without hitting it and it can't bring all its weapons to bear on you at that range. You can even start throwing nukes at that range, they then need to change target to those or risk destruction (your sheilds however can shrug off a nuke, even goauld ha'tak can do that, wraith hulls can't however).
Basically when your ships that much stronger, your drives operational, and your not an idiot, you can't lose this fight. Had they brought 20 hives and hit you the moment you emerged, then maybe they win, maybe.
Don't mess with the Tappinator.
I miss Stargate 😭😭😭
What bothers me is how the Phoenix jumps in, destroys a hive ship with ease, but then chickens out on the second one. The Daedalus, even with less advanced tech, was able to withstand twelve hives for a few minutes, but that one taking a few potshots at the Phoenix was supposed to be an issue?
Because, it was a prototype.
Didn’t the Daedalus use a ZPM for that fight?
It was around 9 or 10 hive ships with escort of 3 cruisers for each because Daedalus was able to destroy some of them. Yet tomato tomato more or less.
I think one thing you have to recall on the Phoenix in that timeline. The IOA gave it to Atlantis only half done. The ship frame was completed, but most of the systems were still offline. It took the crews weeks to get it working. Also the other ships if they got damaged would go back to Earth for a full repair and upgrade that would last months. So if the Daedalus was getting repaired then the Apollo would do the supply run to Atlantis. In this alt timeline the Phoenix stayed in Pegasus and was repaired as best they could at Atlantis. Plus Phoenix was doing weekly attack runs against Hive ships even if it was not fully repaired. And the IOA was not worrying about the rest of Pegasus by then. All they cared about was the city. If they could have moved the city back to the Milky Way and left everyone in Pegasus behind they would have done so. I am thinking the IOA would let Carter and co fight as best they could, but if something happened to Phoenix then they would not do anymore to fight Michael or his forces. And its shown later on in the future that the city was abandoned later on. My guess would be Michael took over the rest of the galaxy and some time later lead an assault on the milky way galaxy. Remember what old Mckay told General Lorne "You know what is happening here." Meaning something was going on after the Ori were gone.
@thomashoniball7728 yeah, you’re right. The ZPM was left at Atlantis.
Long live the Pheonix❤
"... And we burried another empty casket."
Stargate Atlantis
I loved both SG-1 and Atlantis. I heard that Joe Flanigan tried to buy the rights to the show but the company went into bankruptcy or something and that was that. SGU was such a disappointment. Every episode was just listening to them argue about who was in charge and who was porking who. Every now and then they mentioned space or showed an alien for a second but then right back into the soap opera dialogue.
How the hell are they boxed in???
Samantha "I have the mass" Carter
"you blow up one sun and everyone expects you to walk on water"
Bada** way to go. Take out 3 hive ships.
think im going to have to watch SGA again
Top tier episode honestly. S4 EP20 - The Last Man
It really took years from "Go suck a lemon" to "thanks... for everything :)" 😁
The captain go down with the ship
I love Stargate, but i have one question about this, Carter crashed the ship into the wraith ship, but i saw an Asgard beam after she crashed, is that from Sheppard and Caldwells ship.
Strange how Colonel Sheppard Disappearing Screwed over 2 Galaxies
It’s insane how this show got better each season and still got canceled. Smh. Hopefully Amazon brings back the lore
Daddy likes SG1 n Stargate Atlantis.
Fortunately, this ends on a good note :)
Much as I loved this show growing up... eh.. .how do you get 'boxed' in when in 3D space? And, why do the good guys so often take a beating first before firing back?
Asking for a friend.
In this case it look like by "boxed" in maybe over lapping field of fire by many hive ships. I know three ships doesn't seems enough to "box" in.
One they were on top of the Phoenix and closing in. With the planet under the Phoenix and hive on top in a triangle like formation/ encirclement.
Two there's way more hive ships than on screen.
As for this case why they didn't get the first shot. It was a trap.
Don't know why didn't return fire automatically thou. In lore. Maybe rule of engagement? In reality story reasons the enemy had to disable/ win over the Phoenix somehow.
Um grande seriado, fantástico e pouco conhecido
she gave away the high ground - should have ported into geo orbit and scanned
if they had asgaurd weapons that can withstand ori blasts how could a few hives break the shields?
In this case/ timeline Michael ,the smart and cunning wraith, probably upgraded the hive ship weapons somehow. And set up the field where all the main guns on the hives could hit them. Even thou at the start the first hive was bow point at.
Carter is awsome and so good looking
Отличный сериал
2:38 is just a proof why tauri were mostly loosing space battles. Really, just 2/3 missiles per ship? In Star Carrier book series each ship is launching at least 12 fighter (still now enough according to me) and each is shooting over a dozen of ai-controlled nukes. If tauri ships would at least shoot 50 nukes per enemy vessel, we would be unstoppable :P
There are at least 16 VLS tubes on a BC-304. They could shoot more than that. The question remains why they didn't.
Supply issues?
Limited CGI budget?
Who knows.
@@Myuutsuu85why only 16 cells too a Burke class destroyer has 96 mk41 cells
The Phoenix managed to land a missile strike on two of three hives. Carter rammed the undamaged hive, and the resulting blast overwhelmed the other two hives which had taken damage.
A couple hundred wraith for 1 human. That's not such a bad deal.
Я наверное не видел этого эпизода,хотя казалось что смотрел всё.Жалко что закрыли сериал .Можно сказать в кульминации.Так и не узнаем мы,куда летит судьба
This was from an alternate timeline when Shepard was accidentally teleported 48, 000 yrs into the future
So she is still alive ?
Yes, that’s right.
all this couold have been prevented if micheal was left as a wraith
Spoilers:
Yea but then they would also not find the cure which they eventually perfected, cure that removed wraith need to feed on humans(without side effects), putting an end to the Wraith war.
Where are we? I don't remember this episode?
@dougadams9419 I checked and i never watched this particular episode🤔
You know what, I think this is only the second...or maybe third time Carter has died in the entire franchise. Not bad.
I wish they had built some actual warships. The daedalus designs were good, but way too small once they met the Ori and Wraith. Build something of comparable size with good armor and weapons, which would be completely reasonable for humans to do, and they would have a chance. A true battleship class warship would have been amazing even if we just saw it coming out of the shipyard at the end of the series. Use all the technologies they have access to
The Tau’ri had access to a lot of technology, but their resources were very limited. Power generation and transmission were also a problem. They could barely power the ships they had, a large class was out of the question.
Still, after the Asgard upgrades those boats were extremely tough. Few ships in the Milky Way could survive if they end up on the wrong end of one. In a 1v1 confrontation, a Ha’tak for example is no match for a Daedalus class ship.
The axiom of combat duty: 90% Boredom. 11% Terror. (Yes, that works out to 101%. That's combat.)
This extends to capital ships of a fleet. Ninety percent of the time they're standing there for show. A battleship is a lot of resources deposited into one hull when you could devote the supplies and personelle to a squadron of cruisers instead.
@BogeyTheBear true, although they never built up any sort of a fleet, and they needed larger vessels since they were traveling long distances, especially once they got the zpm hyperdrive and were flying to Atlantis. Ideally they would have a carrier group with the Daedalus class or larger as a carrier and then multiple support ships.
They had power generation problems on the first ship(x301?) But even before the Azgard gave them technology, they were building very powerful naquida(sp?) reactors, and they wouldn't have had to shrink them nearly as much on a capital ship. Honestly it should have been a true capital ship plus Daedalus class ships as escorts by the end. They did not build up industry nearly as much as they should have, even if they had to keep it top secret. They had 5 other countries helping.
I always wondered why Atlantis hadn't been visited again by humans, were we/earth wiped out?
Always found it quite eerie that Atlantis had sat there unoccupied for thousands? of years and no one had returned.
Carter never died This was in an alternate universe if I remember correctly and it had no relevance on the main story
The alarm @2:23 is like here we go again.
Why do they use consoles full of explodium like star trek LOL. Sammatha Carter the GOAT
One thing that always pissed me off is that despite fast evasive movement from a small ship the energy weapons seem to home in on the ship and hit everytime. They are supposed to be energy based cannons which obviously have no course correction abilities so how the fuck are they moving after firing in order to hit the target. Nonsense.
L'un des meilleurs épisodes. L'ascension de Mickaël aurait dû servir de ligne scénaristique pour toute la saison 5.
What language is that? Wraith?
i have no idea why the ship didnt go into hyoperspace lool
They were boxed in. Typical Trek style bull, like when two Romulan warbirds somehow did the same to the Enterprise.
If Carter died in this timeline then Stargate continum and the ark of truth would have happened completely different
you can't box someone in space, but ok, heroic death...
They were triangulated with three hostiles well extended in their respective engagement envelopes.
You're in their sights: Running only means you die tired.
@@BogeyTheBear Not if you could literally jump into hyperspace and drop back out at a tactically better position ( or just run away), there is in fact NO way to "box" in a ship in space with 3 opposing ships. Space is 3 dimensional, it would take at the very least 6 ships to box in an opposing ship.
Why weren’t they shooting back immediately???
They were literally ambushed the moment they dropped out of hyperspace, likely with minimal shields raised and weapons offline.
Goodbye carter
😱😭😭😭😭😭
I think we will take STG to the next galaxy.
*why does McKay look like an Oompa Loompa following the yellow brick road to the Emerald city?*
That's why you enter a system 1/4 light Year out and check out the situation. Did you know it's 2 light years to Ort cloud at the edge our solar system? Space is big, but in sci-fi stories they make everything seem small and close by.
Unless you have FTL sensors, that give you informations 1/4 of a year out of date. Space *is* big, and distance and time are closely connected.
What is a BO
Bridge officer, I guess
@@ThaFuzzwood bridge officer??
@@0rg4niizx3 Yeah at this point I expect you to google things.
Watching this now it seems really cringe. 😂😂😂
She wasted a ship by bad judgement and hubris. She qas a bad captain
The music here is terrible. No drama, no emotion. If this were Star Trek Voyager this would have been an epic moment. The sets and effect were on par with this - the music and integrity/effort of the performances is what elevates something in quality and makes it unmissable. Disappointing flat ending for Major Carter here.
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I've always wondered to whom are they shouting at... Evasive manuvers, return fire, raise shield.... Ect ect.
Since the entire ship operation is seemingly run from those 2 console every single time 😂
Carter death was a big mistake and disappointment
She new she was on a suicide mission if she meant the thanks she would have given Rodney a roll in the sack
All Samantha Carter first space taran.
Dammit, more of casualties for Earth, even they doesn't be aware of it, aside a bunch of people. 🇺🇳
NO! not SAm!
Stargate is so budy
That is the worst makeup dude.
Humans in SG1 and Atlantis got to the point that they were so OP, until plot reasons required them not to be, so they nerfed them in the most ridiculous ways. How the f does the Phoenix get dropped on like with all its advanced tech by only 3 ships?!? Daedalus went up against like 12 and survived? And if didn't even have the beam weapons lol
They could have jumped.
They could have beamed nukes on to the hives or right next to the hive ships if prevented to beam them inside.
Just lazy writing for shock value
Why she didnt jump to hyperspace immediately is i guess just a writers ploy
I think we will take STG to the next galaxy.