If you go 0.25x on the speed at 23:55, you can see the APS aiming at the incoming arty shell, but Phly moved out of the way, or, the APS was too slow to counter that, ngl that is amazing!
You might have missed a couple of features of the British jaguar. It has thermal vision in the targeting view and it can auto laser targets similar to a helicopter.
Day 1: Phly please play the Japanese tiny Tim rocket AKA tiny Huan rocket. With over pressure and its pen is insane at 5.3-6.3 ( it has also been 5 years since you played it)
For whatever reason the NERA in the Challengers is modelled to be worse at stopping kinetic rounds than Rubber, or Rubber and Air layers. Add to that that the Gun mantlet is completely void of internal armour for whatever reason. And supposedly there is a solid titanium block behind the driver's hatch so it shouldnt be anywhere near the level of weakpoint that it is ingame. Also the Jaguar's laser designatior can lock onto moving vehicles, you dont need to manually lead targets.
Arcording to the leak Chally turret schematic incident, the gun manlet is just 200mm of armour, while that double the current armour, it not gonna change much
@@Aes880 It actually would, since it would deprive a lot of the spall its "sideways" into the turret. Spall can go through over 30mm in WT (for some reason)
At 21:00 ... Between the disappearing shots, the guy that was only shooting his machine guns despite having a fully functional tank, the other guy that ran into him, and the 3rd guy that didn't back up properly; that exchange felt a lot like how War thunder games pop up in my dreams sometimes.
Love those combo videos and would be happy to see more of them. Also I'm not sure if you're aware of it but the TIALD targeting pod on the Jag GR1A got thermals :-)
hearing the old 'everybody' intro/outro gets me in my feels. reminds me of when everything felt a little easier. thanks for always being so positive and making these videos, phly.
@lil_diabetes i love the looks of chally TES Because it actually looks like it's actually been through war unlike leo 2 that looks like it's factory new. Though i respect ur opinion though. That slick design is also pretty nice
Armour on the challenger is a bit of a touchy subject with warthunder since the serving Brit soldier (tanker) sent them the armour specs which are still restricted, and warthunder stepped away big time due to the trouble it caused or rather could of caused them.
@@captainbean3114 From armour composition effects, to Titanium Driver blocks missing, Turret rotation, Optics and many more where leaked from classified info, so to avoid politics as ananab said, They avoided changing anything.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 Also the fact that gaijin made the first stage ammo only 4 rounds when there is a huge rack of projectiles at the back of the turret and a bin full of propellent under the turret ring behind the loader. according to gaijin, they are only there for decoration... the turret rotation speed is only correct with an aced crew, untill then you have to put up with it being slower
As a British main, I always and I mean always defend and sit held behind hills and whatnot. It’s fun to just absorb shells that can’t go through you when behind something. Challenger is a one tap god also, that 580mm pen is something else for sure and all just goes so well together.
Day 175: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
The black Knight is what happens when bae systems ask tankies what toys they want throwing on a tank... andninsee that gijin still hasn't fixed the lower plate and added the correct armour
the hull is 70mm because every damn time they go into action a combined Chobham/ERA package is fitted to the lower hull! Also to the sides. Gaijin refuses to give the Challies the armour they have in battle.
Combo idea: Fast Food Delivery. You've been drafted by the almighty War Dash to delivery hot and ready ordinance to the enemy position, and on the double! Take out the T114 and the XA-38 Grizzly to get the job done quickly, efficently, and with a healthy side of *Long... Range... Yeet...*!
I’ve been a fan since I discovered you about 2 years ago you’ve influenced my gameplay and I definitely wanted to say thank you for making me a better warthunder player I would definitely love to see more of these combo videos
2:21 yeah i think that's why our hulls are usually so weak against incoming rounds. Because our tanks are in dugout emplacements that protect the hull behind all that dirt
Nope. Challenger waas designed to the same tactics as anyone. NO tank would eat an APFSDS there. Leopard and Abrams won't either. So why bother with extra weight?
@@Retrosicotte So throw the protection on the turret but not the hull? That doesn't make sense, they intend to fight with the hull protected. Why else would you protect the upper half and not the lower half? Why design the upper half to "eat" APFSDS and not the bottom half. If a proven design can stop APFSDS, why omit it if it's about protection? I just think the answer is hull protected and hull down tactics. I mean I'm not an expert, it just doesn't make a lot of sense that weight is the issue in this case to me but I'm open to any information you have.
@@Retrosicotte not really... Challenger are designed slightly different from other mbts, uk made the tank be also a infantry tank (thats why they still use rifled guns for besh. Cos it's very effective against buildings and infantry)
The laser pod on the jaguar has thermals as well which makes it super easy to find and track enemies, also you can lock the laser so you don’t have to do much ;)
Combo video AND the 'Everybody' outro? My nostalgia meter just exploded. Not gonna lie. Combo vids (and even lineup vids) are about 10 time better than single vehicle vids, IMO. So, HELL YEAH!!! I'd love to see more combo videos.
It's here! Thank you :D. In terms of video ideas I would love to see vids that highlight at least one vehicle that perhaps doesn't quite perform to meta or is harder to use and you just do the normal video style but explain in parts how you can try improve your success with it by trying xyz
A lot of people have probably answered this but the relatively week hull of the challenger compared to other tanks and its own turret is due to doctrine. During the cold war it was almost always Britains plan to have its tanks sitting in pre-planned hull down positions where they would only really get shot at in the hull. Not a great idea but at least an idea with some reason.
@@ridox0072 That is insanely cool idea just imagine using French premium panther in sim. Combined with the fact that at 5.3 & 5.7 Germany mains are blind af.
It's well known the Challenger 2s are modelled incorrectly in game. Even the L27A1 round is modelled incorrectly as it's capable of at least 620mm of pen at 2km.
That is 620mm of pen at 2km 60° LoS. The LoS formula is what NATO uses to translate 60° pen to 0° pen. It's really simple. LoS = L/cos(@). Put in our known values, and you get 620 * cos(60) = 310 (actual penetration). Looking at L27A1 in game, it is 311mm @ 2000m, 60°, therefore, it is accurate.
Recently really enjoyed playing war thunder top tier purely because I can take my M1A2 Abrams and blow up the Russian c**ts with Z or V plastered on the front. Brings a slight tear to my eye every time
Man, i love combo videos, and of course, all of your videos are fantastic and you have a lot of skill, wich always reminds me how much i suck at war thunder.
On the British tank doctrine, it was basically let Russia bash against the rest of Europe first while slowly moving backwards between hull down positions with known ranges and hope they run out of tanks before Calais.
A tear came to my eye when I heard the words "combo video". It was like seeing an old friend! I would love to see more combos again!!
I came for this comment.
I really miss the old combo video concept!
DUDE MINE TOO😭❤️
can we get phly using the S 24s on the IL 28sh
Same
*HELICOPTER MISSILE GETS SHOT DOWN*
APS: I'LL f*^"KIN DO IT AGAIN!
Ayyy odd
Heyyyy! Odd, can you give me advice to get subs?
@@itsystryke depends, subway has some subs, world of warships will have subs in whenever the fck they decide to f up the game even more
the facts, and then heli players just rage…
Lol
If you go 0.25x on the speed at 23:55, you can see the APS aiming at the incoming arty shell, but Phly moved out of the way, or, the APS was too slow to counter that, ngl that is amazing!
Wrong that was for the atgm
@@pioneerridgeexpress4961 nah, ATGM came a couple of seconds later
O boże dwóch kowali 😱😱😱
You might have missed a couple of features of the British jaguar. It has thermal vision in the targeting view and it can auto laser targets similar to a helicopter.
Day 1: Phly please play the Japanese tiny Tim rocket AKA tiny Huan rocket. With over pressure and its pen is insane at 5.3-6.3 ( it has also been 5 years since you played it)
Beatifull idea
Which rockets and what planes has them? I just wanna know because im not really sure which you are talking about
What about uncle tom the british version of it?
@@Squisbabvs Type 3/5 Rocket-bombs, I believe.
21:05 helping Orc... looks like you are part of them..
For whatever reason the NERA in the Challengers is modelled to be worse at stopping kinetic rounds than Rubber, or Rubber and Air layers. Add to that that the Gun mantlet is completely void of internal armour for whatever reason. And supposedly there is a solid titanium block behind the driver's hatch so it shouldnt be anywhere near the level of weakpoint that it is ingame.
Also the Jaguar's laser designatior can lock onto moving vehicles, you dont need to manually lead targets.
Arcording to the leak Chally turret schematic incident, the gun manlet is just 200mm of armour, while that double the current armour, it not gonna change much
not to mention the jags laser pod has thermals, which he never uses
@@Aes880 you seen the leak?
@@Aes880 It actually would, since it would deprive a lot of the spall its "sideways" into the turret. Spall can go through over 30mm in WT (for some reason)
It's gaijin.... We know they are delusional
At 21:00 ... Between the disappearing shots, the guy that was only shooting his machine guns despite having a fully functional tank, the other guy that ran into him, and the 3rd guy that didn't back up properly; that exchange felt a lot like how War thunder games pop up in my dreams sometimes.
Love those combo videos and would be happy to see more of them.
Also I'm not sure if you're aware of it but the TIALD targeting pod on the Jag GR1A got thermals :-)
That and that it can auto track like helis
hearing the old 'everybody' intro/outro gets me in my feels. reminds me of when everything felt a little easier. thanks for always being so positive and making these videos, phly.
Feels like 2016 again
The black knight is definitely the coolest looking tank
@lil_diabetes i love the looks of chally TES Because it actually looks like it's actually been through war unlike leo 2 that looks like it's factory new. Though i respect ur opinion though. That slick design is also pretty nice
Armour on the challenger is a bit of a touchy subject with warthunder since the serving Brit soldier (tanker) sent them the armour specs which are still restricted, and warthunder stepped away big time due to the trouble it caused or rather could of caused them.
I thought it was related to turret rotation speeds?
@@captainbean3114 It was that amongst other things... But mainly the mantlet protection.
They should buff it anyway. I don't think that would make any problems for them if they do it as with other modern MBTs (so pretty much guessing).
@@captainbean3114 From armour composition effects, to Titanium Driver blocks missing, Turret rotation, Optics and many more where leaked from classified info, so to avoid politics as ananab said, They avoided changing anything.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 Also the fact that gaijin made the first stage ammo only 4 rounds when there is a huge rack of projectiles at the back of the turret and a bin full of propellent under the turret ring behind the loader. according to gaijin, they are only there for decoration... the turret rotation speed is only correct with an aced crew, untill then you have to put up with it being slower
9:05, that tunnel vision 🤣
Attempt 294:
Play the forgotten Mig-9 and show everyone the power of the original 37MM/23MM Vodka launcher Jet.
never stop mate^^
I absolutely hate the Mig 9, but yes phly, play it please
As a British main, I always and I mean always defend and sit held behind hills and whatnot. It’s fun to just absorb shells that can’t go through you when behind something. Challenger is a one tap god also, that 580mm pen is something else for sure and all just goes so well together.
Day 175: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
I really want this happen!
I saw you in day 83
Sawyer Bates! Sawyer Bates! Sawyer Bates 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I was wainting for an combo video again, keep em coming!
Definitely do more combos. You should do the M1 Abrams in tandem with the F4C.
This was like an old Phly video. Back to why I subscribed, combo explosion madness.
FINALLY A COMBO VID IVE BEEN WAITING FOR ABOUT 3 YRS!!!!!!!!!
The black Knight is what happens when bae systems ask tankies what toys they want throwing on a tank... andninsee that gijin still hasn't fixed the lower plate and added the correct armour
Yes! I miss a good old fashioned combo
*phasioned
in these parts
the hull is 70mm because every damn time they go into action a combined Chobham/ERA package is fitted to the lower hull! Also to the sides. Gaijin refuses to give the Challies the armour they have in battle.
Never unsubbed, but only just got back into these videos! I forgot how much I love them!
dude i love the combo vids man im fairly new to your fan club sorry btw but def a fan of the combo ones
"Why do you play the jaguars in ground rb?"
Phly: "it's easy, and it does a lot of damage."
happy souls reference??
Yessir
Combo idea:
Fast Food Delivery. You've been drafted by the almighty War Dash to delivery hot and ready ordinance to the enemy position, and on the double! Take out the T114 and the XA-38 Grizzly to get the job done quickly, efficently, and with a healthy side of *Long... Range... Yeet...*!
Team America's "Maaaaaatt Daaaaamon" made my day ... ahhhhh ... old days ... sniff :)
I’ve been a fan since I discovered you about 2 years ago you’ve influenced my gameplay and I definitely wanted to say thank you for making me a better warthunder player I would definitely love to see more of these combo videos
2:21 yeah i think that's why our hulls are usually so weak against incoming rounds. Because our tanks are in dugout emplacements that protect the hull behind all that dirt
Nope. Challenger waas designed to the same tactics as anyone. NO tank would eat an APFSDS there. Leopard and Abrams won't either. So why bother with extra weight?
@@Retrosicotte So throw the protection on the turret but not the hull? That doesn't make sense, they intend to fight with the hull protected. Why else would you protect the upper half and not the lower half? Why design the upper half to "eat" APFSDS and not the bottom half. If a proven design can stop APFSDS, why omit it if it's about protection? I just think the answer is hull protected and hull down tactics. I mean I'm not an expert, it just doesn't make a lot of sense that weight is the issue in this case to me but I'm open to any information you have.
@@Retrosicotte not really... Challenger are designed slightly different from other mbts, uk made the tank be also a infantry tank (thats why they still use rifled guns for besh. Cos it's very effective against buildings and infantry)
Thanks for the video fly, I feel like people really underestimate the British in War Thunder, looking forward to more videos about them!
Yes! I miss the combo videos :')
watching your videos since i was 17 im 23 now still enjoy them glad to see a return even if just a one off thing. reminds me of the good ole day
I really love your combo videos, please bring them back
'Dumb bombs but with a computer' takes too much effort to say. I petition we refer to them as GED Bombs
I remember the Sherman Firefly & Firefly V combo video back in 2016
Seeing the Z on tanks in game really irritates me
And even worse: why would you help that fascist with repairs!?
@@iKlempi right….y bring that into a fun game
Black Knight 🥵 Black Jaguar 😎 Black Phly 😏 :Don't take it offensively please.
Hell ya brother a combo vid.....finally!
COMBO VIDEO YES.
These videos are fantastic, and it's awesome to see one, reminds me of constant combo videos way back when!
Missed these combo videos
Ancient subscribers you say? I was subbed to you before ground combat was even in the game, before jets existed in game even!
would love to see more combo videos really ads to that gameplay goal and what you can bring out with the top tier stuff
I like how you can take out a multi million dollar main battle tank from the front with a panzerfaust from world war two.
The laser pod on the jaguar has thermals as well which makes it super easy to find and track enemies, also you can lock the laser so you don’t have to do much ;)
7:42 You just encountered a *very rare* Leopard 2PL Player that might actually have a brain and not take all 42 Rounds
Combo video AND the 'Everybody' outro? My nostalgia meter just exploded.
Not gonna lie. Combo vids (and even lineup vids) are about 10 time better than single vehicle vids, IMO. So, HELL YEAH!!! I'd love to see more combo videos.
Gets in the Jaguar; proceeds to do things no Jaguar pilot would ever even think about doing, and none of the things that they actually did.
At 18:55 you missed him, the turret moved slightly. The tank was at the bottom and on the right.
It's here! Thank you :D. In terms of video ideas I would love to see vids that highlight at least one vehicle that perhaps doesn't quite perform to meta or is harder to use and you just do the normal video style but explain in parts how you can try improve your success with it by trying xyz
A lot of people have probably answered this but the relatively week hull of the challenger compared to other tanks and its own turret is due to doctrine. During the cold war it was almost always Britains plan to have its tanks sitting in pre-planned hull down positions where they would only really get shot at in the hull. Not a great idea but at least an idea with some reason.
Attempt 137: Loving the Unloved: Play the lovechild of a Spitfire and a Mustang. The beautiful MB5.
I love the combo videos! Would also like to see something with the KV-85, couldnt find a video from you on it
Need more combo videos. YES PLS.
Yes bring the combo videos back 🔥
Keep the combos flowing! 👍
the APS (andi missile system) is an israeli hi-tec system
The black knight would be Batman’s tank if he was British
More combos i love them and its why i subbed nearly 6 or 7 years ago
COMBOS LLEETTTSSS GOOOOOO
The hardkill aps 😫 Man, really cant wait for the Leopard 2a7a1 coming in like 3 years lmao
Got to say, the chally 2 has got to be one of the nicest looking mbts of the modern age
Day 46: Play with any captured tank (E.g. Panther in Russian tech tree or Sherman in Japanese tree) and play as an impostor in the enemy team
U mean in sim right?
@@ridox0072 That is insanely cool idea just imagine using French premium panther in sim. Combined with the fact that at 5.3 & 5.7 Germany mains are blind af.
@@chomaaa yeah i never said it wasnt its been done before but you need to do it in sim
We always do that with italian M18 and Pershing 😄
Jpn never had a captured sherman though. US gave sherman and m24 to JPN after the war is over
Yes! more Combos! I would love to see the strv 103 revisited with the new 7.7 swedish heli, its so much fun to play.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING BACK COMBO VIDOES PHLY WE LOVE YOU
i actually don’t remember combo vids until i had a look and was like ooooh riiight yes good vids they were…
I absolutely want combo videos and I will watch them all as long as you are willing to make them
COMBO VIDEO!
More combo videos please!
more combo videos! Idea, best combo per BR starting at Rank 2 or 3
"combo video" Now that's a name I have not heard in a long time
Don't call me ancient like that lmao
Title reminded me on that one time War Thunder Twitter tweeted "Ready to get Blacked... ?"
a combo video.? no way this is exactly what ive been waiting for.?
It's well known the Challenger 2s are modelled incorrectly in game. Even the L27A1 round is modelled incorrectly as it's capable of at least 620mm of pen at 2km.
U might need to get some evidence for that and give it to gaijin.
Ps this is a joke.
That is 620mm of pen at 2km 60° LoS. The LoS formula is what NATO uses to translate 60° pen to 0° pen. It's really simple. LoS = L/cos(@). Put in our known values, and you get 620 * cos(60) = 310 (actual penetration). Looking at L27A1 in game, it is 311mm @ 2000m, 60°, therefore, it is accurate.
People seem to forget this
@@Huski3s Rubbish, Challenger 2 can pen more than 564mm. Trust me on that. The sooner they model the entire tank correctly the better!
@@WNxDavid990 Source?
From the shadows it strikes. None shall see it. The Black Knight, it is the reaper.
8:55 yea that feeling when you think you got 4 of the enemy but you got 2 kills :((
Hell must’ve froze over! Thanks for the combo vid!
Dat 336: play sherman at high br and pretend to be a destroyed sherman
COMBOOOO almost made me cry i miss it
Remember where you were when Phly introduced the return of combo videos
I love a combo video. You got me into aircraft. Before I was just ground RB only.
Ah the combo vids, the nostalgia, ive missed this
I saw this coming, best combo ever
i refuse to believe a 120mm tank shell would absolutely destroy that chopper no matter where you hit it
"Suffocation, no breathing"
"This is my last resort"
Started watching you since 2016? When i started playing WT. Thought i was subscribed, i was not. But now i am. Love you phly
4:48 So that's how tanks are made? 😳
Yes, more combos please my good sir
Combos atleast twice a week would be lovely
Recently really enjoyed playing war thunder top tier purely because I can take my M1A2 Abrams and blow up the Russian c**ts with Z or V plastered on the front. Brings a slight tear to my eye every time
Lovely combo video, glad to see full 4 minutes of CAS gameplay for once
Combo videos very cool, especially for someone who is learning the nuance of ground RB!
Man, i love combo videos, and of course, all of your videos are fantastic and you have a lot of skill, wich always reminds me how much i suck at war thunder.
Great work phly love the videos man puts a smile on my face🔥🔥
On the British tank doctrine, it was basically let Russia bash against the rest of Europe first while slowly moving backwards between hull down positions with known ranges and hope they run out of tanks before Calais.
I would like to see more combo videos.
I feel even older now when I realise I’ve been watching you since before combo videos were possible lol
always down for combo vids
PLEASE MORE COMBO VIDEOS!!!