The comments on the additional cost for the Prestige package were flat out stupid & inaccurate. The upgraded Prestige trim provides THE BEST Heads Up Display on the market, electronic predictive adaptive suspension and active noise control, an upgraded Lexicon sound system in addition to the heated steering wheel and heated rear seats, a larger digital instrument cluster with 3D capability (I love this feature), upgraded leather interior and headliner. To suggest that Genesis was charging $6k for a heated steering wheel and outboard rear seating was an unnecessary inaccuracy in this otherwise excellent review. I've owned my GV70EV for just over 2 months and am thrilled with what this EV delivers. And, FWIW, I'm getting about 245 miles of real world range, despite constantly requiring AC in South Carolina and making use of a "heavy foot" with some regularity.
With 6 months with the GV60, range is not a problem and fast changing is easy enough in Connecticut. If you want bold colors, the GV60 is your choice over the GV70. I have Mauna Red and for the really bold San Paulo Lime.
Curious that the Cadillac Lyriq wasn’t mentioned. I drove a demo over the wkend. Absolutely impressed with the quality, functionality/usability and value.
The one i drove in dallas had misaligned body panels and bubbling in the paint of the front passenger door right where the door meets B-pillar. A/C never cooled enough on a 91 degree day.
Off topic comment: we need more tire tests, in particular tire tests in relation to EV range. CR is one of the very few sources for rolling resistance tests in the USA, and rolling resistance is directly related to EV range, so my hope is that CR can link these two topics. Note that there are tradeoffs to tire efficiency (range), the most important one being wet grip, which is a safety issue (a CR specialty).
The CR E GV70 was ordered with $575 black paint, and I sent this question in before, but maybe some CR editor will read it here and answer. Does paying extra for the special paint color in any way suggest that you are going to get a higher quality of paint and or application of said paint?
I love when people forget to charge, then blame the cars range for it. If you forgot to fill up the evening before in an ICE vehicle and you're in a hurry in the morning, you have no one to blame for the situation other than you. That doesn't change with an ev.
Great videos as always. Genesis is another great electrified but to me is as attractive and obtainable as a Rolls Royce. Cars have gotten way too expensive and the reason that they are is that people keep buying them, overextending their finances, depleting savings that should be going towards retirement. Even with the so-called 7500 dollar tax refund, the ones most likely to benefit are the wealthy one percenters. My question to you is: When does it make sense to replace a car? I have a six year old Subaru Forester that has not a scratch on it, has been sitting in a garage for all this time with only 30,000 miles on it. Does it make sense to sell this car and trade it in on an electric, all this in the face of an industry that is going electric?
That's totally up to you. If you like it and not having problems with it you could drive it for a long time. Like you said, lots of folks buy new cars because they're either bored or are trying to keep up with the Joneses. So they take on a monthly payment that could be going towards a retirement account instead. My previous car, I kept for 15 years. My current one I've had for 5 years, it only has 55K miles and will probably keep it for a long time. I do love not having a car payment. Just because a state says that they'll stop selling new ICE vehicles doesn't mean such vehicles will completely go away. You can still buy used ICE vehicles. They're not going away anytime soon.
Excellent review on the Genesis GV70 Electric! Question on the regeneration - I also like the paddles to increase regeneration to slow the car going down steep hills etc - how much capacity do you actually get back into the battery using the regeneration in that way? Do you get some good range back? Appreciate your thoughts.
The ability to charge one EV from another is an adapter (from what I've seen) and the Kia and Hyundai products come with the adapter. I read it's slow though, like from a 110 outlet.
It is very interesting to hear the problem with Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady tires. I have 3 friends with 2 Honda Pilots and 1 Honda Civic running them and being in IT field not driving often they don't have this problem as far as I know (we are close friends and discuss any issues with cars). If possible love to hear more about the problem after an inspection. I also wonder if the vehicle is an EV as they are heavy compared to regular cars and if that's the reason for flat spots?
Guess I'm just an old curmudgeon but who has $60,000 sitting around gathering dust? That's ALOT of money! Yeah, the price falls by the value of a trade but the fact is for most of us, a new car in this price range means financing and financing is even more expensive. Buy used--and thank you CR for doing used car reviews too (at least in your paper magazine).
I’m rather shocked to hear you say that flat spotting is not common on modern tires after they sit for a few days. It most certainly is because I have experienced it on at least three cars in recent years. It goes away after driving 5 miles or so but it’s definitely an issue and it’s irritating. One car had Pirelli P zero tires that did this, and I currently have a Audi A5 with Continental tires that are very bad about doing it. I even noticed it on my new Hyundai ioniq5 that has Michelin tires, but not as severe as on the other cars. Unbelievable that you’re spreading misinformation acting like this is a non-existent problem on new tires! It’s also quite commonly mentioned in reviews on various tire dealer websites.
I have this car. I wanted a comfortable commuter car, nice styling, exclusivity, speed, practicality, versatility. It's very pleasant. I can charge at work and at home. So far, so good. For longer trips, I have other cars.
Wow, CR is now testing cars only available in 23 states. That is a very limited market, particular if they are only the warm weather states which may be what it is with the limited range less than 250 miles and costing $67,000. No thanks. I will be buying Toyotas after 2030 with these high priced electric cars as Toyota against the rest of the industry announced yesterday in a board vote they will continue to make gas engines until 2050 with a mix of cars including EV, unlike everyone else who says by 2030 EV only. Toyota has the right approach not the others.
And this is why I’d never buy an electric car. With a gas car, there’s no such thing as range anxiety. I can use my radio…my heat/ac…and travel 4-500 miles, before needing to make a 5 minute fuel stop. With an electric car, I need at least a half-hour to charge, and they can only go a couple of hundred miles (or less), before needing to charge. Thanks, but no thanks.
I am glad you said "at least." It could be a half hour, if you can find a charger, if it is in working order, and if there is not a waiting line or someone just parked in front of it. I like the idea of electric vehicles, but the technology we need is not here yet.
Most EV owner charge their car overnight at home, waking up with full charge. No need to charge during the day. No range anxiety at all for me. Range anxiety might be for people who have lots of long road trips. Well how many times do people have such a long trip per year? I use my EV for commute which makes most sense, as that takes one of major times to spend in car, which can turn much more money wasted in ICE cars otherwise. I also have an ICE car that I can use for long trips.
Because you drive 500 miles everyday???? With my tesla I have 400 miles of range and in a road trip I stop for 10/12 minutes every 250 miles (just the time it takes to go to the bathroom), but since I don’t roadtrip everyday, I plug it at night just like my phone and I’m ready for anything in the morning. Sorry but not having to go to the gas station is great and I save a lot of time every week. I’ll never go back to gas.
The comments on the additional cost for the Prestige package were flat out stupid & inaccurate. The upgraded Prestige trim provides THE BEST Heads Up Display on the market, electronic predictive adaptive suspension and active noise control, an upgraded Lexicon sound system in addition to the heated steering wheel and heated rear seats, a larger digital instrument cluster with 3D capability (I love this feature), upgraded leather interior and headliner. To suggest that Genesis was charging $6k for a heated steering wheel and outboard rear seating was an unnecessary inaccuracy in this otherwise excellent review. I've owned my GV70EV for just over 2 months and am thrilled with what this EV delivers. And, FWIW, I'm getting about 245 miles of real world range, despite constantly requiring AC in South Carolina and making use of a "heavy foot" with some regularity.
With 6 months with the GV60, range is not a problem and fast changing is easy enough in Connecticut. If you want bold colors, the GV60 is your choice over the GV70. I have Mauna Red and for the really bold San Paulo Lime.
Yeah, I don’t think another 50 miles would have even made a difference to a tester who wants to drive it all weekend and never plug it in.
Curious that the Cadillac Lyriq wasn’t mentioned. I drove a demo over the wkend. Absolutely impressed with the quality, functionality/usability and value.
GM, new technology and quality in the same sentence?
Lyriq is inferior to GV70e
The one i drove in dallas had misaligned body panels and bubbling in the paint of the front passenger door right where the door meets B-pillar. A/C never cooled enough on a 91 degree day.
@@Jgjginkg244based on what?
@@Guene6spdthe demo I drove had none of these issues but good to know. Could be ore production issues.
Off topic comment: we need more tire tests, in particular tire tests in relation to EV range. CR is one of the very few sources for rolling resistance tests in the USA, and rolling resistance is directly related to EV range, so my hope is that CR can link these two topics. Note that there are tradeoffs to tire efficiency (range), the most important one being wet grip, which is a safety issue (a CR specialty).
I can see the thought bubbles hovering above Ryan’s head. 😂
The CR E GV70 was ordered with $575 black paint, and I sent this question in before, but maybe some CR editor will read it here and answer. Does paying extra for the special paint color in any way suggest that you are going to get a higher quality of paint and or application of said paint?
Definitely not. It's just a way of getting extra money from you.
Send them an email, that's a good question, even though I suspect the answer is no and the extra money is just for looks.
I love when people forget to charge, then blame the cars range for it. If you forgot to fill up the evening before in an ICE vehicle and you're in a hurry in the morning, you have no one to blame for the situation other than you. That doesn't change with an ev.
It should come with a cleaning kit for the white interior.
Wet wipes work pretty well.
Is it possible the flat spot issue is actually happening from tire pressure? Wondering if the pressure is too low?
Great videos as always. Genesis is another great electrified but to me is as attractive and obtainable as a Rolls Royce. Cars have gotten way too expensive and the reason that they are is that people keep buying them, overextending their finances, depleting savings that should be going towards retirement. Even with the so-called 7500 dollar tax refund, the ones most likely to benefit are the wealthy one percenters.
My question to you is: When does it make sense to replace a car? I have a six year old Subaru Forester that has not a scratch on it, has been sitting in a garage for all this time with only 30,000 miles on it. Does it make sense to sell this car and trade it in on an electric, all this in the face of an industry that is going electric?
Wait until solid state batteries
A concern worth investigating is whether ICE cars will start dropping in value. Where I live in California, EVs are taking over fast.
That's totally up to you. If you like it and not having problems with it you could drive it for a long time. Like you said, lots of folks buy new cars because they're either bored or are trying to keep up with the Joneses. So they take on a monthly payment that could be going towards a retirement account instead. My previous car, I kept for 15 years. My current one I've had for 5 years, it only has 55K miles and will probably keep it for a long time. I do love not having a car payment. Just because a state says that they'll stop selling new ICE vehicles doesn't mean such vehicles will completely go away. You can still buy used ICE vehicles. They're not going away anytime soon.
Sell a paid-for, pristine, low mileage car just because 2% of the fleet is electric?
Are you serious?
Are you rich? If so, go ahead. If not, then it's nonsensical to replace a low-mileage car like that.
Regarding the audience question, I'm surprised they didn't recommend checking, and properly adjusting, the tire pressure. Maybe I missed that.
Excellent review on the Genesis GV70 Electric! Question on the regeneration - I also like the paddles to increase regeneration to slow the car going down steep hills etc - how much capacity do you actually get back into the battery using the regeneration in that way? Do you get some good range back? Appreciate your thoughts.
Haven't they tried charging 150kw with that car?
It is take 24minutes.
What a shame.
The ability to charge one EV from another is an adapter (from what I've seen) and the Kia and Hyundai products come with the adapter. I read it's slow though, like from a 110 outlet.
It is very interesting to hear the problem with Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady tires. I have 3 friends with 2 Honda Pilots and 1 Honda Civic running them and being in IT field not driving often they don't have this problem as far as I know (we are close friends and discuss any issues with cars). If possible love to hear more about the problem after an inspection. I also wonder if the vehicle is an EV as they are heavy compared to regular cars and if that's the reason for flat spots?
ANOTHER NICE CAMEO GABE!
The guy in the light blue shirt says umm way too much.
Blame the shirt
Great show, great team, boring expensive EV cars.
Guess I'm just an old curmudgeon but who has $60,000 sitting around gathering dust? That's ALOT of money! Yeah, the price falls by the value of a trade but the fact is for most of us, a new car in this price range means financing and financing is even more expensive. Buy used--and thank you CR for doing used car reviews too (at least in your paper magazine).
Definitely get the $45 first aid kit with the white seats. If they were red seats, then you could forego the first aid kit and nobody would know.
I’m rather shocked to hear you say that flat spotting is not common on modern tires after they sit for a few days. It most certainly is because I have experienced it on at least three cars in recent years. It goes away after driving 5 miles or so but it’s definitely an issue and it’s irritating. One car had Pirelli P zero tires that did this, and I currently have a Audi A5 with Continental tires that are very bad about doing it. I even noticed it on my new Hyundai ioniq5 that has Michelin tires, but not as severe as on the other cars. Unbelievable that you’re spreading misinformation acting like this is a non-existent problem on new tires! It’s also quite commonly mentioned in reviews on various tire dealer websites.
Value? Really! With a 239-mile EPA range, nope.
Good combination of personnel and a good balanced conversation.
A pink shirt with candy red pants? Sweet Jesus Jon, Ryan is wearing his cleanest t-shirt. Read the room - you're in Connecticut, not South Beach.
You know, umm, umm 😂
I have this car. I wanted a comfortable commuter car, nice styling, exclusivity, speed, practicality, versatility. It's very pleasant. I can charge at work and at home. So far, so good. For longer trips, I have other cars.
But Genesis cars and suvs are crap according to CR, correct, at least in terms of reliability? So, why bother?
Wow, CR is now testing cars only available in 23 states. That is a very limited market, particular if they are only the warm weather states which may be what it is with the limited range less than 250 miles and costing $67,000. No thanks. I will be buying Toyotas after 2030 with these high priced electric cars as Toyota against the rest of the industry announced yesterday in a board vote they will continue to make gas engines until 2050 with a mix of cars including EV, unlike everyone else who says by 2030 EV only. Toyota has the right approach not the others.
Yeah, more cars that nobody can afford and nobody wants.
And this is why I’d never buy an electric car. With a gas car, there’s no such thing as range anxiety. I can use my radio…my heat/ac…and travel 4-500 miles, before needing to make a 5 minute fuel stop.
With an electric car, I need at least a half-hour to charge, and they can only go a couple of hundred miles (or less), before needing to charge.
Thanks, but no thanks.
I am glad you said "at least." It could be a half hour, if you can find a charger, if it is in working order, and if there is not a waiting line or someone just parked in front of it. I like the idea of electric vehicles, but the technology we need is not here yet.
Most EV owner charge their car overnight at home, waking up with full charge. No need to charge during the day. No range anxiety at all for me. Range anxiety might be for people who have lots of long road trips. Well how many times do people have such a long trip per year? I use my EV for commute which makes most sense, as that takes one of major times to spend in car, which can turn much more money wasted in ICE cars otherwise. I also have an ICE car that I can use for long trips.
Because you drive 500 miles everyday???? With my tesla I have 400 miles of range and in a road trip I stop for 10/12 minutes every 250 miles (just the time it takes to go to the bathroom), but since I don’t roadtrip everyday, I plug it at night just like my phone and I’m ready for anything in the morning. Sorry but not having to go to the gas station is great and I save a lot of time every week. I’ll never go back to gas.