Matchless G80CS Trials Bike Built by Dick Mann! | A Bike and a Beer Episode 10

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  • @angelsone-five7912
    @angelsone-five7912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Beautiful bike.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One of my favorites for sure.

  • @JillandKevin
    @JillandKevin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Back in the mid '80's, I heard someone was putting on a vintage MX at the Marin County Motorcycle Association riding area in Marshall, CA (near me).
    I hadn't ridden since '74 when I broke a couple of ribs in a crash at Carnegie several year before, but decided to dust off my old '74 Pursang (now vintage!) and go racing again!
    Imagine my amazement when I got there and THE GREAT Bugsy Mann was there, and instrumental in putting on the show! not only that, but really friendly and helpful!!!
    I took a 3rd, and paid for it the next two weeks!!
    That was the start of CVRG (California Vintage Racing Group), which sort of evolved into AHRMA.
    I decided I was too old for MX, and amazingly, Buggsy and others started putting together vintage Trials competitions. I had secretly wanted to ride trials for many years, so decided to give it a try.
    A buddy had gotten a B44 trialer from Dick (who lived in Richmond, CA then), and I tried it. FUN!!!
    Thru the next few years, we all became friends, with Dick right there with the rest of us, riding, laying out sections, camping at two day events, hanging out around the campfires.
    His sweet wife Kay was always there too, helping out, and, yes, even competing!
    Dick and Kay were ALWAYS so wonderful to everyone from the worst to the best riders!!
    I had kids, and drifted away from the trials, but will always cherish the time with my trials friends, and especially Dick and Kay!
    I DID build a B25 Trials Bike, and got the best compliment ever when a spectator asked "Did Dick Mann build that bike?"

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great Stories! Thanks for sharing and watching the video!

    • @JillandKevin
      @JillandKevin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wheelhousegarage Thanks for the great videos!! Loved the TRIBSA one as well. Brought back some great memories!

    • @JillandKevin
      @JillandKevin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wheelhousegarage I've watched and loved most of your videos!
      I've ridden many trails in areas that look a lot like where you ride (Sierras?), and have ridden or owned many of the models you've shown.
      Thanks so much for bringing back memories!!
      My wife and I are now in our 70's, and are full time musicians now (Jill & Kevin), and don't have much room for bikes, as we headed out on full time our in or travel trailer a few years back. (since have settled it Port Townsend WA). I'm hoping to find a reasonably priced Sherpa T or similar, just to keep in some kind of shape, but not yet.

    • @richardortiz8704
      @richardortiz8704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let me hear the f****** engine not the f****** rock music not right now😢😮

    • @JillandKevin
      @JillandKevin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardortiz8704 huh?? Don't have a clue what you said.

  • @truthseeker2587
    @truthseeker2587 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been addicted to this channel.

  • @piironengarage8030
    @piironengarage8030 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's a really nice matchless!

  • @robertjames6640
    @robertjames6640 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I spent a weekend scrambling with Dick Mann: he rode a Matchless to victory over riders much, much younger than him.
    I sold my 500 Matchless Matisse, a bike I had a lot of scrambles fun with. Trials were never my bag but I used an early rear suspension Royal Enfield 350 in a few trials and found it to be a very good
    BTW, Dick Mann is one of life’s gentlemen and a total ace in any discipline. A great mechanic as well. motorcycle.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great stories! Thanks for sharing Robert!

    • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp
      @DennisMerwood-xk8wp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Metisse

    • @JillandKevin
      @JillandKevin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I, too rode some with Dick & Kay, in the first Vintage MX, and later, in many Vintage Trials. Both Dick and his wife Kay were wonderful people, as you said!

  • @savage22bolt32
    @savage22bolt32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Back when the bikes were heavy, the suspension travel was nil, and I could actually get thru a section without dabbing!
    Only a minute in & already sent this to my high school buds, class of '72!

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love the enthusiasm and appreciate your continued support!!!

    • @savage22bolt32
      @savage22bolt32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wheelhousegarage out if around one hundred channels I watch, Wheelhouse Garage & ITCHYBOOTS are my top 2 favorites!

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@savage22bolt32 I'm honored!!

  • @misterjones7929
    @misterjones7929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing classic bike - I can feel the torque just watching the video. This bike would climb up the side of a house with the right tyres ;-) !

  • @damonmedina3063
    @damonmedina3063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A work of art.

  • @robertodebeers2551
    @robertodebeers2551 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had and rode the AJS equivelent, the G18CS, for several years. Often hard to start, but a thrill to ride. Nothing sounds like them down low.

  • @michaelegan6092
    @michaelegan6092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    While you are generally correct, there are a few things to correct. A G80CS had a bore and stroke of 82.5 by 93 but this is post 1956 motor of 86 by 85.5. The difference is incredible. I have a late model G80CS and am amazed at what Mr Mann did to get this motor so docile. The factory riders in the 60's all prefered the 350 but with the advent of modern trials tyres, and the way they have changed the actual trials, this could be the way to go. Good stuff!.

    • @allenwenzel7272
      @allenwenzel7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a "short-stroke" Matchless engine. I was told it has Trials cams, though I have not confirmed. Modern Radial Trials tires have revolutionized what's possible on an old bike, with traction that even the Factory riders couldn't have dreamed of in the early 1960's! But it did change the Sections too, and probably not for the better, for the average rider.

  • @roddoggity
    @roddoggity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Babe reference was next level ❤

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha! I knew someone would catch that!

    • @richardortiz8704
      @richardortiz8704 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take the music off I'm not watching this video take that music

  • @pippiperade4030
    @pippiperade4030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My last bike was a '67 G80CS - I'd been looking for one in the UK in vain but in the late '90s my work took me frequently to Seattle. I spotted a basket case advertised for sale by Buzz Walneck in Illinois.. I phoned him and asked him if it was complete.. He replied - yes, 99%. Then did the engine turn over? Yes. Finally - could gears be selected? Yes. Buzz sent me photos - and my resistance evaporated. Long story short - I took the plunge against my better judgement and bought it.
    When it arrived in the UK, I realised it needed more skill to rebuild it than I possessed - but I knew an old Matchless enthusiast who took it on and he did an amazing job on it.
    It had a short stroke motor with a scrambles bottom end, a scrambles cam, a Lucas comp mag, knock off wheels, a left side oil tank (rarer than hens' teeth), Western bars (v comfortable), folding footrests, a Norton oil pump, the engine and comp gearbox had matching numbers, it came with an 11.5:1 piston (run on alcohol?), 2 gallon steel tank, high level exhaust & extended front forks. All the quickly detachable (q/d) parts were as new - the headlight, the rear light, silencer (muffler), chain guard, and the speedo (that showed only 603 miles on the clock).
    My friend fitted new main bearings, a new big end, an 8.5:1 piston (to make it more suitable for road use), rewound the magneto, overhauled the gearbox, powder coated the frame and fitted 21" front and 19" rear wheels with s/s guards and Hagon shocks. He fitted 12v electrics via a new alternator and an AO Power Box.
    When I finally got to ride it - what a machine it was.. Following the first serious kick, it usually boomed into life and settled down quickly to a slow even tick-over. The clutch action was light (to me) and gear selection was fool-proof. Finding neutral was simply done. The engine smoothed out once the heavy flywheels were spinning and the faster the bike was ridden, the smoother it got. It sat comfortably at 60-65mph with snarling power instantly available beyond that. I had it up to 80mph for the odd brief period but wind pressure with those high bars made life uncomfortable at that speed. Cruising at 60mph was far more preferable and sustainable. The exhaust note was a constant source of pleasure to me but some bystanders might have felt that its healthy crackle to be excessive by today’s standards.
    I subsequently went on to change one or two more things from the original spec: a friend offered me a new 40mm Dell'Orto carb* at a price I couldn't refuse; and a 21 tooth engine sprocket (vice 19 as per the original).
    * Probably too much carburettor for the bike.
    Finally, I changed the colour of the tank to candy apple red and dispensed with the flimsy plastic tank badges in favour of the flying ^M^.
    I sold it prior to our move to France and not a day has gone by that I didn't regret selling it. It was a delight to ride.. I used to find myself in the garage in my PJs at 6.30am with a coffee just looking at it.
    Here it is:
    th-cam.com/video/aVwO4bQ4s2g/w-d-xo.html
    Happy days!

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a story! Thanks for sharing and good job resurrecting another one of these gems👍👍

  • @blacksquirrel4008
    @blacksquirrel4008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You never disappoint. Last Saturday at this exact moment I was watching Vintage Trials at the Barber Museum Festival. There were a few Matchless and AJS models competing as well as Greeves, and Cotton and some I’d never seen before.

  • @retromechanicalengineer
    @retromechanicalengineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You had me at 'built by Dick Mann'. Thanks for sharing this great machine. Keep drinking those Sam Smith's beers! I used to live near Tadcaster.
    Best wishes, Dean.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your kind words and for watching the video! Bottoms up!

    • @davidwilliamson9162
      @davidwilliamson9162 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Enjoy both your TH-cam shows guys ,fancy having a go myself

  • @colvinator1611
    @colvinator1611 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I saw Dick racing for the USA team versus GB along with John Long, Dale Singleton and I think Bubba Schobbert also. Great competitors and personalities.

  • @dansrc
    @dansrc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great beer and bike combo!

  • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp
    @DennisMerwood-xk8wp ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two Matchless G3c's. The 350cc version used by the Brits. The factory riders never used the G80 in Trials.
    My 13-year-old daughter rides them - and blows people minds!
    I blow their minds by starting it with my hand! No kidding!

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  ปีที่แล้ว

      I still have not ridden a 350 but I would love to!

  • @OMGitsmercer
    @OMGitsmercer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @jeffferguson899
    @jeffferguson899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stunning bike

  • @TheStevemcqueen68
    @TheStevemcqueen68 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Bike, thank you for posting,

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's my pleasure! Thanks for being here!

  • @garybaker6333
    @garybaker6333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dick used to come to Grass Valley to ride trials with a friend in the early 2000s

  • @airspro5666
    @airspro5666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice 👍

  • @mikelyon5595
    @mikelyon5595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too cool!

  • @allenwenzel7272
    @allenwenzel7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kimmy, great job filming!

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's becoming quite the videographer! She say's "Thanks Allen!"

    • @allenwenzel7272
      @allenwenzel7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wheelhousegarage Kimmy is the "Rock"! She has to be, putting up with you! LOL

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allenwenzel7272 No doubt!😆

  • @sheikh_javed_yasin
    @sheikh_javed_yasin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bring in some enfields... 😊 Absolutely love your vdos.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like them! I will work on getting an RE in the lineup!

  • @captainbob406
    @captainbob406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another minor correction... The retard timing lever is primarily there as an aid to starting a cold engine. Those big singles can kick back pretty hard when that lever is fully advanced. You retard the spark to start it. Once running, you advance to full and that is how you would normally ride it. You are correct in saying it is an advantage when riding trials whereas, it does slow the big thumper down when fully retarded. However, its primary function is for starting a cold engine. Great video! Cool story about Dick Mann. That is also a very awesome bike and one, any collector would dearly love to own.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! Indeed, primary function is starting.

  • @evanblock5546
    @evanblock5546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beauty.
    Also, I got to be the 500th subscriber 🤘

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You just made my day! Thanks to you and everyone else for supporting this new channel! I am very appreciative!!

  • @davidwilliamson9162
    @davidwilliamson9162 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous bike….gorgeous beer see if you can get hold ov a STINGO beer from Sam smiths though I wouldn’t recommend riding after it 👍 loving the show

  • @vorhese
    @vorhese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes me wish I wasn't so uncoordinated. :D

  • @pauldeane9849
    @pauldeane9849 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the bulldog clip - this was to hold your score card, to be given to the observer to mark...with a zero of course. Retarding the ignition took the thump out of the power impulse, just keeping the flywheels turning, it's all about the flywheel in trials...or it used to be anyway. Love you can start these things without thinking, shows you know them and how they work.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you've got some trials experience! Thanks for watching!

  • @richardrichard5409
    @richardrichard5409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pulling air valve lever back takes choke off😎

  • @andrewbull3537
    @andrewbull3537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's beautiful cos it's British !!. A 500 matchless not exceptionally fast but cool as f*ck !
    When english bikes ruled the highways and byways of the world ....a time sadly gone 😞.....the new triumphs,b.s.a ,Norton have nothing on the old bikes .
    Take care on the road mate 👍
    Peace out ✌️

  • @garyives1218
    @garyives1218 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:53 How unusual was it to road race without a front fender back then?

  • @arniet1
    @arniet1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want a Matchless G80cs scram (but with lights). It's just as well you don't present 10 classics a day, otherwise you might get a bit tipsy and fall over in a classic manner 😂

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      G80CS scrambler is on my list too!!

  • @guilhermemarques5446
    @guilhermemarques5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great bike! What is the weight of this bike?

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great question! Wish I had a proper scale to weigh it, but I don't unfortunately.

    • @allenwenzel7272
      @allenwenzel7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As the owner of this bike, I think it's in the 285 Lbs range (give or take), or that's what I remember it was when I weighed it many years ago. It's actually pretty light, for a Heavyweight Pre-Unit Trials bike. It's a great bike for the AHRMA Premier Heavyweight Trials class.

  • @ulrichfriehe3459
    @ulrichfriehe3459 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful bike...

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing machine! Special thanks to my buddy Allen.

  • @robertodebeers2551
    @robertodebeers2551 ปีที่แล้ว

    Odd that the tank is painted blue. When Matchless and its sister company AJS were both being built, Matchless machines were pained red and AJS, blue.

    • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp
      @DennisMerwood-xk8wp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All the trials bikes were black. With pinstriping and the flying "M".

    • @robertodebeers2551
      @robertodebeers2551 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, that's right. @@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

  • @gingermongoose3325
    @gingermongoose3325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember Sammy Miller bringing this to the UK in the 1970's (I got his autograph) - he was full of himself, however - the Montessas, Ossas & Bultacos easily beat him.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to deny the capability of a Spanish two-stroke trials bike, but man these old thumpers sure do have soul!

    • @gingermongoose3325
      @gingermongoose3325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wheelhousegarage Agreed, my Dads two best mates were Colin Dommett & Eric Chamberlain - the sidecar champions, we were also close to the Lampards.

    • @allenwenzel7272
      @allenwenzel7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sammy was off the Ariel and onto Bultaco Sherpa's in 1965-66.

  • @nobby91010
    @nobby91010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Made by and manufactured in Plumstead, London England built by English men and women in England

  • @dereksmith5019
    @dereksmith5019 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing it weighs just over 300 pounds ?

  • @gerry343
    @gerry343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I much prefer the old classic trials competitions. Modern day seems too much like circus tricks to me.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha! Interesting perspective! Thanks for watching.

  • @robertodebeers2551
    @robertodebeers2551 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's about an 80-tooth sprocket?

  • @NicholasMarkovich
    @NicholasMarkovich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please upload without music

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like what the music adds, but I know you want to hear the bike too. Go to minute 12:00 to hear the bike start and run without music. Thanks for watching!

  • @matthewbeesley5850
    @matthewbeesley5850 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:22 to 1:22 no need for the annoying music. That fantastic motorcycle's engine and exhaust is all the sound we need. Instead we needed to wait another eleven minutes to 12:04 to finally hear that motor roar to life.

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sticking it out through the whole video! Check out the newer stuff. I try to let as much of the engine sound sing as possible.👍

  • @billmago7991
    @billmago7991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once the muzac started I left

    • @wheelhousegarage
      @wheelhousegarage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching up until then - try some of my later videos- I generally use less music now👍

  • @charlesross1682
    @charlesross1682 ปีที่แล้ว

    This bike has staining between cylinder and head like head gasket leaking

  • @redtobertshateshandles
    @redtobertshateshandles ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have enjoyed the sound of the bike. Dangedy,dang,dand,de,dang. Not so much.

  • @demonmonsterdave
    @demonmonsterdave 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beer is drunk from a glass. You're disrespecting the machinery by being uncouth.