YAMATO Vs BISMARCK: DUELO DE ACORAZADOS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2023
- Vamos a enfrentar en nuestros clásicos versus a dos buques de guerra míticos por su poder y dimensiones. El japonés Yamato contra el alemán Bismarck. ¿Quién vencería
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El sistema de puntería del bismark era mucho más avanzado, el yamato a máxima distancia con el sistema de colores raro que pudiese corregir tiro, el sistema de puntería del bismark era bastante bueno en 2 tanda hundió al hms hood
Esta claro que el bismarck era un peligro para todos los acorazados de su época
Gracias por comentar!!
Si estamos de acuerdo pero su sistema de defensa antiaéreo estaría pensado para aviones de la época no para biplanos volaban más lentos y muy bajo y no siquiera en su máxima depresión conseguían derribarlos y... Uno de ellos,como he comentado consiguió alcanzarle en el timón cosa que decidió su suerte. FELIZ NAVIDAD
Que época tan apasionante de combates navales!
Feliz Navidad!
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En realidad el golpe que decidió el hundimiento del Bismark fueron cazas de la primera guerra mundial a los cuales las baterías antiaéreas no podían disparar por ir demasiado bajo y también su baja velocidad y uno de los torpedos dió con uno de los timones impidiendo su movilidad decidiendo su suerte
Gracias por tu aportación y comentar!!
Igual a Yamato lo undio también unos aviones
Hundir al Hood, es gran mérito, otro era como un gran gordinflon que come gaviotas y espanta muñecos. Yamato sin ningún mérito sólo mataba gaviotas...
Si eso cañones te pillaran por medio mientras cazaba las gaviotas ojo!!! Y si hundir el hood no fue poca cosa...
Gracias por comentar!
They seem to be under the mistaken impression that the Bismarck is equal to the Yamato because it was lucky enough to have a good record against poorly equipped opponents. Bismarck has the same specifications (except for accuracy of fire and speed) as other Japanese battleships except Yamato, but it is overestimated. To begin with, the Yamato was designed for battles against the massive U.S. Navy in the vast Pacific Ocean, and has super heavy armor and one of the world's largest guns, and the Bismarck's guns cannot penetrate the Yamato's armor even at close range. Incidentally, Yamato's armor can withstand even Yamato's own shells. However, Yamato can easily penetrate Bismarck's armor and deliver a fatal blow to Bismarck. Normally speaking, Bismarck cannot win against Yamato. Those who think that Bismarck is of the same rank as Yamato are children without knowledge and people who overestimate it just because it is a German weapon. There are those who claim that the Yamato was easily sunk, but the crew of the Yamato at that time were new recruits with no real combat experience at all, so their damage control and anti-aircraft combat skills were overwhelmingly lacking. On top of that, it took two hours to sink after losing its combat capability due to being bombarded with machine gunfire, torpedoes, and bombs from 300 American planes forever. Essentially, it is battleships such as the Iowa that should be compared to the Yamato. Yamato and Bismarck are both great battleships, but the difference in performance is too drastic to compare them.
+ Bismarck, after the first hit, most of the systems broke down, as well as the Admiral Hipper class cruisers, it was full of extremely sensitive equipment that failed during each trip to sea,
summary
The Yamatos displaced almost half again as much as the Bismarcks, had far thicker armor protection, far superior firepower, a radar- assisted fire control system at least as good as Bismarcks, a superior main battery range, and a shell dispersion rate which was approximately the same, and an immunity zone against the 15" gun greatly exceeding that of Bismarck's immunity zone vs. the 18.1" gun. The only area in which the Bismarcks were superior to the Yamatos was maximum speed- which the Germans would have best used to disengage and sail away.
The difference between these two classes of ships is that of night and day- literally.
Le habeis puesto al Yamato 4 torres de artillería triple en la vista aerea cuando solo llevaba tres ,por lo demas muy entretenida la comparativa.
Tenía 3 y en la vista aérea es así. Lo revisamos por si ha habidos un error
Gracias por comentar!!
Es verdad que el Yamato era mas grande y su pontencia de fuego mejor, pero si vemos en la historia los japoneses teniendo la mejor marina completa del mundo, muchas veces desaprovecharon la gran ventaja que tenian sus maquinas de guerra y eso fue el gran error de sus comandantes. La historia nos muestra que no es el ejercito mas grande y mejor equipado quien gana si no el que es mejor dirigido. Siempre me a gustado leer la historia del Yamato, pero en un enfrentamiento entre los dos acorazados me da mucho a pensar que el Yamato hubiese ganado
Esta claro que ambos eran máquinas capaces de destruir a cualquier adversario.
Gracias por comentar!!
De echo el Yamato ocupaba municion que perdia potencia de fuego muy rápido y bien si el Yamato tiene mas coraza mas brindaje pero eso le daba una deventaja era mas lento y hay que recordar que Japón no tiene metales tan duros ni tan resistentes por lo que el iowa y Bismarck asta tenian mejor brindaje que el Yamato por haci decirlo tenian un super metal y en cambio el metal japonés no es tan duro por lo que en brindaje ganaria el Bismarck. Y aparte unos de los motivos por los que cuales no ocupaban mucho el Yamato era por que no tenia casi defensas anti aerias ya que fue construído antes de que Japón entre en la segunda guerra mundial otro motivo era por que el Yamato no demostraba ninguna supermacia ni ventaja a Japón asta el oiwa lo podria undir y para los aviones americanos seria un blanco facil , grande y muy pero que Muy lento por lo que es comprensible que los japoneses no ocuparan tanto al Yamato
Lo siento pero no, la clase Bismarck tenía peor maniobrabilidad al tener timones dobles paralelos. El Yamato tenía mejor capacidad de giro, otra es el radio. El Yamato usaba mayor radio.
Una cosa que hizo que el Bismarck se muriese es que los bien babosos de la tripulación de Bismarck no apagaron la radio cosa que revelo la ubicación del Bismarck, y de echo la mayoría de los barcos japoneses de la segunda guerra mundial ocupaban timones de madera y el Yamato era muy pero que Muy lento lo que eso lo hacia presa facil para los aviones y de echo era muy poco manipbrabre el Yamato, aparte de echo la radio del Yamato era arcaica cosa que le daba una devestaja enorme
Made in Japan, como los coches actuales, bien equipados. 😂
Tope de gama!
Desde mi punto de vista debio ganar Bismarck pero con un 60% de posibilidades de ganar el Yamato tenia mas desventajas que ventajas pero buen video bro
Muchas gracias!
Siempre es un poco subjetivo estos versus. Tenemos un par más si te ha gustado este por el canal
They seem to be under the mistaken impression that the Bismarck is equal to the Yamato because it was lucky enough to have a good record against poorly equipped opponents. Bismarck has the same specifications (except for accuracy of fire and speed) as other Japanese battleships except Yamato, but it is overestimated. To begin with, the Yamato was designed for battles against the massive U.S. Navy in the vast Pacific Ocean, and has super heavy armor and one of the world's largest guns, and the Bismarck's guns cannot penetrate the Yamato's armor even at close range. Incidentally, Yamato's armor can withstand even Yamato's own shells. However, Yamato can easily penetrate Bismarck's armor and deliver a fatal blow to Bismarck. Normally speaking, Bismarck cannot win against Yamato. Those who think that Bismarck is of the same rank as Yamato are children without knowledge and people who overestimate it just because it is a German weapon. There are those who claim that the Yamato was easily sunk, but the crew of the Yamato at that time were new recruits with no real combat experience at all, so their damage control and anti-aircraft combat skills were overwhelmingly lacking. On top of that, it took two hours to sink after losing its combat capability due to being bombarded with machine gunfire, torpedoes, and bombs from 300 American planes forever. Essentially, it is battleships such as the Iowa that should be compared to the Yamato. Yamato and Bismarck are both great battleships, but the difference in performance is too drastic to compare them.
+ Bismarck, after the first hit, most of the systems broke down, as well as the Admiral Hipper class cruisers, it was full of extremely sensitive equipment that failed during each trip to sea,
summary
The Yamatos displaced almost half again as much as the Bismarcks, had far thicker armor protection, far superior firepower, a radar- assisted fire control system at least as good as Bismarcks, a superior main battery range, and a shell dispersion rate which was approximately the same, and an immunity zone against the 15" gun greatly exceeding that of Bismarck's immunity zone vs. the 18.1" gun. The only area in which the Bismarcks were superior to the Yamatos was maximum speed- which the Germans would have best used to disengage and sail away.
The difference between these two classes of ships is that of night and day- literally.
@@user-tu1hh5jj1u And as I see that you, my dear, lack reading comprehension, I literally say from my point of view, that is, it is my opinion and no one can change something that I see that I did not understand.
Literally the Yamato had more disadvantages than advantages and the fact that it is a German ship does not mean that it has favoritism, in fact it is quite the opposite. I am aware that Germany is not good with ships, in fact it is one of the worst in that aspect and I also remind you of something and It is that since Germany lost the First World War and according to the Treaty of Versailles, Germany could not equip itself and in fact it was not until Hitler assumed power that Germany finally had efficient battleships, so the crew of the Bismarck did not have as much experience like that of the Yamato since even Japan could make battleships therefore they were already familiar with these except Germany due to its restrictions, even in another comment I already commented on the errors of the Bismarck since its crew had not dealt with modern battleships at that time, but the yamato already had experience with battleships
@@user-tu1hh5jj1u The way you spoke about the United States makes me think you're a Yankee. You say that the Bismarck was lucky to face "weak" opponents. That makes me laugh. I literally think you're forgetting that the Bismarck sank one of the biggest ships. important actions of the United Kingdom in the Second World War and I see that you forget that in those times The Royal Navy of the United Kingdom was the most powerful fleet at that time, it was the most powerful maritime force at that time, something that I see that you omit and still The Bismarck destroyed one of the most important with a shot, I think it was the Walas, but the Bismarck destroyed it with a shot, literally breaking it in half with a shot, something that I see that you omit, but how would you say "The Bismarck was lucky to face to weak and unarmed opponents 🤓👆" don't make me laugh he literally destroyed one of the flagships of the royal navy and as I said at that time the Royal navy was the strongest maritime force in the world second to that of the United States and still The Bismarck sank it with a shot, breaking it in half, so much so was the impression that the United Kingdom quickly gave the order to destroy the Bismarck, which, curiously, the Royal Navy set as an objective and prioritized the destruction of the Bismarck, so in the following days the Royal Navy spent its time hunting the Bismarck, so tell me why, if the Yamato is so strong, why did the United States not put it as a priority? In fact, they didn't even label it as a threat
@@user-tu1hh5jj1u Well, let me tell you some of the disadvantages of the Yamato?
Firstly, its radio was archaic, which gave it a profound advantage.
Two, the Yamato, like all Japanese ships at that time, still used the wheel to make turns and what do you think? This gave the ship a disadvantage since it made its turns slower and clumsier, which made it difficult to dodge projectiles.
Third, it did not have anti-aircraft defenses nor strong anti-torpedo capabilities, and that was what led to its destruction.
Fourth, you talked about the Yamato having bigger cannons, right? Well, what do you think, that contradicted its ammunition since the Yamato's ammunition lost firepower very quickly.
Fifth, even the Japanese knew that the Yamato had more disadvantages than advantages, which is why they avoided using it so much in combat.
six, the Yamato's service is weak, you will tell me "but the Yamato had more service, it had m-more than double that of the Bismarck🤓👆" that shows me that you don't know much about the history of Japan, since you should know that the metals of Japan are not as hard or resistant as the European ones, as you can see, for example, the katanas needed to be made 12 times the doubles, that is, they had to reinforce them 12 times 12 layers of metal since the Japanese metal is not as strong as The European and the Bismarck were very well reinforced with European metal, while the Yamato was given more than twice as much metal as the Bismarck, since if they put the same amount as the Bismarck, a destroyer would literally have a good shot and a torpedo would penetrate its armor and goodbye Yamato, and even so the Bismarck still had better metal and therefore better service
seven talking about toast, what do you think? The Yamato, having so much performance, made it slow, an easy prey for planes or torpedoes, since if you think about such a weak and still slow metal, the Yamato was literally an easy target for the planes, adding to its lack of air defenses. For the American planes it was like a piece of scrap metal, slow and big enough to make a few bombs and torpedoes and goodbye. Yamato literally was the Yamato, in reality, that's why the Japanese avoided occupying it.
They seem to be under the mistaken impression that the Bismarck is equal to the Yamato because it was lucky enough to have a good record against poorly equipped opponents. Bismarck has the same specifications (except for accuracy of fire and speed) as other Japanese battleships except Yamato, but it is overestimated. To begin with, the Yamato was designed for battles against the massive U.S. Navy in the vast Pacific Ocean, and has super heavy armor and one of the world's largest guns, and the Bismarck's guns cannot penetrate the Yamato's armor even at close range. Incidentally, Yamato's armor can withstand even Yamato's own shells. However, Yamato can easily penetrate Bismarck's armor and deliver a fatal blow to Bismarck. Normally speaking, Bismarck cannot win against Yamato. Those who think that Bismarck is of the same rank as Yamato are children without knowledge and people who overestimate it just because it is a German weapon. There are those who claim that the Yamato was easily sunk, but the crew of the Yamato at that time were new recruits with no real combat experience at all, so their damage control and anti-aircraft combat skills were overwhelmingly lacking. On top of that, it took two hours to sink after losing its combat capability due to being bombarded with machine gunfire, torpedoes, and bombs from 300 American planes forever. Essentially, it is battleships such as the Iowa that should be compared to the Yamato. Yamato and Bismarck are both great battleships, but the difference in performance is too drastic to compare them.
+ Bismarck, after the first hit, most of the systems broke down, as well as the Admiral Hipper class cruisers, it was full of extremely sensitive equipment that failed during each trip to sea,
summary
The Yamatos displaced almost half again as much as the Bismarcks, had far thicker armor protection, far superior firepower, a radar- assisted fire control system at least as good as Bismarcks, a superior main battery range, and a shell dispersion rate which was approximately the same, and an immunity zone against the 15" gun greatly exceeding that of Bismarck's immunity zone vs. the 18.1" gun. The only area in which the Bismarcks were superior to the Yamatos was maximum speed- which the Germans would have best used to disengage and sail away.
The difference between these two classes of ships is that of night and day- literally.
Teniendo en cuenta la calidad del acero japonés usado en el yamao equípale a un 290 británico o alemán , la puntería de los artilleros japoneses era muy buena de noche pero de día era decente pero inferior a inglesa y alemanes al no tener radar su puntería efectiva fue de asta 15 km el acorazado alemán scharnhorst acertó a un portaaviones británico y lo hundió a 26 km con el radar , el 129mm 25 mm 13 mm japonés no tenia nada que hacer contra los aviones modernos porque aun siendo muchas bocas de fuego no era eficaz como indica el índice de derribos que hizo el yamato u otros buques japoneses a lo largo de la guerra sin embargo el 150 mm 40 mm 20 mm alemanes junto al radar antiaéreo lo hacia eficaz como demuestran los derribos efectuados por buques alemanes
Gracias por toda la información extra! Pero dinos...Yamato o Bismarck? Quien ganaría en tu opinión?
De nuevo gracias por el comentario!
@@chyd2021 bismarck sin duda
Tomamos nota. Haremos futuros versus entre otros acorazados (nos parecen unos buques fascinantes) y apreciamos los puntos de vista e información nuevos👍👍
@@chyd2021 El sistema de control de tiro del Yamato y Bismarck eran ambos muy avanzados.
El sistema de control de tiro del Yamato era conocido como el sistema de control de tiro Tipo 94. Este sistema utilizaba un telémetro óptico para medir la distancia al objetivo y un ordenador mecánico para calcular la trayectoria del proyectil. El sistema también tenía un dispositivo de corrección de viento y un dispositivo de corrección de movimiento del barco para mejorar la precisión del disparo.
Por otro lado, el Bismarck utilizaba el sistema de control de tiro FuMO 23. Este sistema utilizaba un radar para medir la distancia al objetivo y un ordenador mecánico para calcular la trayectoria del proyectil. El sistema también tenía un dispositivo de corrección de viento y un dispositivo de corrección de movimiento del barco para mejorar la precisión del disparo.
En resumen, ambos sistemas de control de tiro eran muy avanzados para su época y permitían a los acorazados disparar con gran precisión. Sin embargo, el sistema de control de tiro del Yamato utilizaba un telémetro óptico en lugar de un radar, lo que lo hacía más vulnerable a las interferencias y a las condiciones climáticas adversas.
Resumiendo, creo que dependiendo de las condiciones climáticas en un probable enfrentamiento entre ambos colosos, la moneda podría caer de uno u otro lado, imponiéndose probablemente la superioridad del sistema de control de tiro alemán en caso de clima adverso, pero en una buena condición climática, la ventaja sería para el acorazado japonés. Es solo mi modesta opinión.
Una probable confrontación entre un clase Iowa y un clase Yamato, también sería digna de estudio.
En fin, solo dejo mi opinión.
@cisco4382 Esa es uestra siguiente comparativa...clase Iowa vs yamato. Nos leíste el pensamiento ✌️
HOY NO SE COMERIAN NADA DE NADA
Son barcos dechace casi un siglo, han sido superados tecnológicamente. Pero siguen siendo importantes
Gracias por el comentario!
modernizados?? cuidado con un acorazado modernizado
@@aitorfernandez8484 Cierto...seria como un tanque flotante!
Los marinos japoneses valian hongos en todos los combates perdieron y él que ganaron solo fue por sorpresa sin enfrentar a nadie
Es cierto que en los conflictos de la 2a guerra mundial tuvieron muchos fracasos pero no se convitieron en potencia imperial en el pacífico sin su armada
@@chyd2021 si pero siempre combatiendo contra enemigos muy inferiores