Thank you, just had a 13yr relationship go south and was looking at sail boat living to keep my head above water so to speak I love the water and fishing it seems like a sure thing
Paid $800 for my 1974 CAT22, and have put in maybe a couple of grand bringing her back to life. I’m having so much fun with this boat, the process, and honing my sailing!
I bought a 17' "pocket yacht" for $350. I spent about an additional $1000 restoring it. Couldn't be happier for a measly $1300 boat! Me and the kid love our weekend camping trips in it.
Adventures In Paradise if you don’t mind me asking, what size anchor did you upgrade to? Specifically, how heavy did you go? I am getting a 20 foot boat in a few weeks and am exploring the multiple upgrades that I am going to have to make. Thanks again!
@@Nathanburby went from 17lbs to 22lbs. The 22 held in four high wind thunderstorms where sailflow sent me alerts for wind over 40mph. The 17lb anchor would drag a little once and a while. And you're welcome, thanks for watching!
Awesome video! Thank you so much breaking this down as cleanly as you did I am sure it wasn't easy to count out all of your past payments like that for us.
Love the series of videos. One thing you forgot to mention is if you trailer the boat you have to demast it after every outing, and restep the mast every time you go out. For that reason alone many keep the trailerables wet. I also think that when buying a small boat in the water many will not have them gone over by a professional so you need to have someone show you how to look for blisters or soft spots. I never trust that sails are new, I always assume all sails and running rigging needs to be replaced. And as you have said alot, small boats are not fast but sailing is the ultimate way to boat. It does not get any better than a fast broad reach in good winds. Great channel, keep up the posts
Great overview, many of those items can be reduced in cost with the right shopping around, I work in industrial equipment sales and have access to discount on stainless hardware companies that sell specific marine fittings, cleats, pulleys etc.. and you would be amazed at the crazy margins these companies charge for basic stuff, pays to shop around and ask for discount.
Thanks for posting up your costing video. Great inspiration. I have a small fiberglass fishing boat currently and have started to look for a trailer sailer yacht, and watching videos like this shows that with a bit of effort, you don't have to spend a fortune to get out there on the water.
Thank you for your interesting, informative and entertaining video which meticulously detailed your total costs and the work required to get the boat into a good, seaworthy condition. The image of the rudder with the abundant marine life infestation foretold the condition on he hull. Your transformation of the boat was quite remarkable and she looks fantastic. Subscribed.
There’s a lot of good advice in your video. I’m interested to by small sailboat and your video are inspiring. I’m from Canada near Montreal and Catalina 22 footers are often available and it seems a good choice for a first boat. Thanks for all the great videos
Bought a Precision 18 for $350 - it was advertised for $2500. A foot of water inside, tons of mold, trailer needed lights and tires. I was going to walk away until the owner asked what I would realistically pay and I told her I would think twice about talking it if she gave it to me. (True!) The upsides: it came with two sets of sails and cushions that were stored inside, a 2011 Yamaha four stroke motor, many extra's. Took me two days to get the trailer back to road worthiness for a 2 hour drive back home. Spent over $2200 and untold hours getting her to perfect condition (two years later, teak extra's and buffing she's purdy slick sight)
Great video. Thanks for all the info. Bought Catalina 30 last month for close to 8K. I am 1/2 way through repairs and in for $5k so far. Needed to replace heat exchanger, bilge pump, engine parts. Other costs include mechanical parts, cleaning supplies, dinghy, outboard and lines. At least, sails are in great condition. 🥴
Nice! I looked at a Cat 30 today. Looks like an awesome boat! Did you get it surveyed/professionally inspected before you bought it? Great buying price!
Thanks for the info. I have been sucked into sailing again over the past couple years. Did some sailing with my family when I was younger and living at home. Now I would like my own boat for my family. Something small and trailerable, but big enough for sleeping and cooking for overnight trips. The C22 seems to fit the bill. Not sure where I would keep it, or if I could even get the boat backed up our steepish driveway. Toying around with the idea at any rate. I like your videos.
Thanks for the great educational video, and a huge thanks for not ruining it with crappy background music while you're talking. I don't know why some people are compelled to add annoying background music throughout the video.
G'Day I just but a catalina 25 and just now looking at what it needs in terms of fixing. Some of the items you mentioned are on my list, good to have the cost listed. Cheers
Was given a Cat 22 a month ago by a new friend. This is very helpful in showing me what to expect to get it reliable after a 3 year 'break' with the previous owner.
Just found your videos and subscribed!! We purchased our first sailboat a couple weeks ago. We didn’t know how to sail, in fact we never even stepped foot on a sailboat until we bought this one. But always we had the dream to learn and hopefully retire on one someday. We bought a 24ft Neptune that was in great condition and ready to sail for $4500 and still dealing with title transfer and marina slip rental transfer so the cost keeps adding up (slow process with covid-19) Thanks for posting these videos and we look forward to watching all of them!!
Adventures In Paradise we actually just starting to learn how to do videos. We currently have a couple videos I posted on my channel a few weeks ago with our other boat. Soon I will have a couple more videos to post and they will include our sailboat.
Marine connection Liquidators in Ft. Pierce. They have so much at about 1/2 of West Marine prices. Amazing store for marine equipment, parts and accessories.
1980 Pearson 23 Cat, paid $1500, was in great shape with a trailer and fresh bottom paint, my most expensive part is the slip fee of $335 a month, need to move it to a cheaper lake 🙃 . No major investment other than cleaning supplies and my solar add on.
In Dec.2023 I bought a 30` Hunter from a sailor in New Port Richey Fl. for 2k with 3 good sails, rigging and solar power with a running 2QM20 yanmar that needed a raw water pump rebuilt . He needed the boat out of the slip for a new boat so bargaining was easy. Me my Brother and sister in-law motored and sailed the boat from NPR to Port Saint Lucie Fl. across the Okeechobee Waterway 6 days with no issues. Couldn`t be happier.
I got my C-22 about a month ago for $2,800 on ebay. I keep mine in the Great Salt Lake, and my slip fees are significantly less than yours, mine are $126 per month in the summer which includes water. Fortunately mine is in really good shape, only things I have added are wax about $25, registration $380, and a solar power controller for $17. But... I think new sheets and halyards may be in the future...
bought a mcgregor 25 in march for 3,500 and spent 1,500 more getting her perfect!!now i have just bought a hunter 41 and that is more than i care to mention here lol
Yeah...but your McGregor is 5x the boat his is...You can't put a 30hp outboard on his and go water skiing, it's not self righting, not trailerable, not water ballast..Your best is practically unsinkable! ...and it's one of my favorites!!
1965 Columbia 26 and 1993 mercury 9.9 outboard in a well for $1900. Needed cleaning to sail. Needs lots of work to be proud. Love learning to sail. Your clip wrangling the headsail is me. I pay $1200/year for the slip. She is on the Mississippi River.
Had a 1990 Catalina Capri 26, which was a solid, dependable, manageable boat, that was in great shape at 15 years old. Over the course of 8 years, we upgraded electronics and electrical, rigging & lines, and sails. When we had to sell her, we did well -- getting back 70% of what we paid for her originally, not counting the upgrades. When we looked at what we shelled out for those 8 great seasons on the water, it wasn't bad at all. When we were looking for a boat, there was a lot of push from brokers to get something bigger "so we wouldn't grow out of it quickly," but we knew what we wanted as a couple. Finding an solid older Catalina, especially the 22, 25 or 27 should be doable for most prospective sailors if they take their time and learn what needs elbow grease vs. what needs $$.
Great video, I bought a 1976 C22 about 10yrs ago, in a bit better shape than yours for 2K. Upgrade costs were certainly comparable to yours. All said and done probably about $4800-$5000. Worth it to me... like you said; the availability of parts, data and information on the Catalinas is a huge game changer with older ⛵️ 😎
I picked up a McGregor 25 also. I have about $1700.00 into it. paid $500. Most expensive part was new rigging and sandblasting the keel. Its going to be a great little boat when its done. I think you will love yours
@@AdventuresInParadise That's my plan, too. But I just moved to Mallorca, and I'm about to start my first sailing lessons at the national sailing school so at least I'm on the right track. Everyone I ever met has told me that buying a boat is buying yourself an endless money pit but, thanks to your and other videos, I realise that it doesn't have to be like that - and that you don't have to be a millionaire to enjoy sailing. Thanks again.
Hello AIP - I bought my 1970 C-22 (hull #284) for $356.00 on E-bay through a charity auction - a real risk for sure. However, it turned out to be an awesome deal. Keel is in really good shape, rudder is good shape, keel winch and cable are in usable shape (new cable and new winch provided in sale), Rigging is in excellent shape (I bent one turnbuckle end learning how to raise the mast but there were two extra TB in the box of stuff), Sails are in OK shape (main needs replaced), hull is solid below the split line (no leaks or soft spots), leaked through the deck in spots (all fixed now). There are other problems above the split line but nothing that won't allow me to sail this year and fix her in the winter. Two areas of wood in the deck that are going bad need to be cut out and replaced. Bought a new mast step/Bolt $30, Fiberglass epoxy/cloth $20, Outboard 15hp Johnson $400, Polyurethane $16, Topping lift $20, Trailer winch and Strap $70, CG safety flares $30, new trailer tires $320, screws/nuts/bolts/hasp - $100. So I guess I have about $1400 in it right now. Deck repairs will be about another $100 in epoxy, glass, wood, sand paper and then paint... No electronics yet??
I bought my C22 for $500, but it was in way worse condition. I'm one of those idiots that likes a challenge. It's easier to list what is original on the boat since that since that is a much shorter list, everything else is new. Add to that a blister repair job, full restoration of the keel, painting the entire boat, etc. New sails, new outboard, new rigging, new hardware, etc... I spent about $7K on parts and supplies, that doesn't include my labor.
Hey Luke. Did you do any deck work? I have a soft spot on my 1974 C22 and wondering if I should tackle from the top or under and thru the liner. I'm leaning towards top. Thx
@@tahoetimm9662 I only had one rotten spot around the electrical thru deck fitting for the mast wiring, it was about 4 x 4 inches. Repairing deck rot is always easier from the top on a Catalina (any model). The catch 22 is that you're going to tear up the non-skid pattern on the gelcoat which really can't be duplicated in a repair. If you fix extensive deck rot just plan on re-doing all the nonskid with Kiwi Grip, you only need one gallon to do the entire boat and its a really great deck surface. It also has the added bonus of hiding imperfection if your new fiberglass top surface isn't automotive grade bodywork level.
I owned 9757 and brought her back. It was in much better starting condition that yours was, and admittedly I also went through Catalina direct for a lot of my repairs. Looking back I realize that I paid CD a hefty commission for what they supply you with. Gerhauer is the cheapest option for replacement running rigging but is quality. For the same price you can find higher quality brands like lewmar and harken. Better halyards can be bought for much less. For me it was a joy to refit my boat and that’s how it should be looked at, like you said a hobby.
I'm just starting to consider a sailboat, somewhat to sail, mostly to live on. The 22 might be a tad small, but I think I might be able to get by on a 25. You're videos are very informative and I'm sure I'll look like a total clown when I get started sailing. Keep 'em coming!
For that size I would definitely opt out for a Cirrus 22 from Westerly if you like separate cabins, standing headroom, separate heads, with a proper little galley, sink and a inboard engine.
@@obiwanfisher537 the issue is finding them. Cat 22s are *everywhere*. Even the 25s and 27s are pretty common if you want something a bit bigger still on the cheap.
We’re in the same boat (pun intended ) that’s about what I have in my 84 minus the propane outboard I bought . I think it’s a good value for the dollar even though they always need something but hey what hobby doesn’t !
wauuu what a video. I just retire was looking for a 36 to 42 footer monohull i have no experience in the water other than my bathtub and rubber duckie, my budget was like 20k but after watching a few of your videos I think I have decided to look for a cheap boat give it love while I learn to enjoy it see if is what I want to do then after a year and go from there! thank you very much for the help
@@AdventuresInParadise o my friend decided to follow your advice a catalina 22 like you said easy to learn parts everywhere my budget was high but i think you are very correct ,better learn small. i been watching all the videos but never 1 down to earth ! thank you so much for replying god bless
Thanks for the very informative video my friend. I envy you for the price you find it . Unfortunately at the other way of the ocean here in Greece the same exact boat has a price tag of more than 7000 euros (almost 8000 dollars) .. We don't have so expensive moorings but every thing else wow... you are on the cheap side of the world. Take care of yourself and your boat my friend.
Great video. I’m a woman with a 23ft pocket cruiser but agree with you on the problem of sailor wives (or husbands) not appreciating the costs. But I find it’s the project costs that are part of the buzz - I can’t wait to spend the next $50 on my boat!
We bought our 1974 C22 at my daughters school fundraiser (it was donated) for $450. Not only was she complete, but had 3 sets of sails. A lot of elbow grease to get her pretty and a few simple repairs, mostly tightening things and some rewiring, all done by us. I always thought I would want a big boat, but 22 is a good size for single hand sailing and for trailering. Thans for the great videos!
Valiant 40 Purchase 20k Insurance (2 years) 2k Slip (2 years) 7k Upgrades repairs 40k (Engine seals, batteries, sealing water tanks, port holes, man holes, new sheets, new windlass, etc etc etc) 20' boats are exponentially cheaper, but we are also looking to go offshore.. so their is that.
It was about 20 years old when our "original" roller-furled genny blew out while on the water. Tough to cough up for a brand new 130 genoa, but dang the improvement in the sailing was worth the pain to the pocket.
I just got my 1982 Catalina 22, sail number 11353, about 3 weeks ago... I actually traded a $800 guitar and a $200 amplifier for it that I was no longer using ( I have many many more) . Complete with 2 older main sails in fair condition, one rather nice jib, and no motor. I'm sure it will need all new running rigging, and possibly new standing rigging also. I will make brand new seat cushions with new foam with my industrial sewing machines. I don't have to do everything at once, one step at a time while enjoying sailing ... I will certainly do the most important items first, keel cable and pin, etc. including some trailer work too. I do expect to have at least $4,500 all in all. 😎⛵
I bought a C22 for $2,000 in about the same shape. You didn't mention the trailer but ours came with one. Your figures are in line with what we did although bottom paint was additional. We kept the boat 1/2 year on a mooring, which was about $1500 plus a state-required inspection and lease of about $500/year. The other 1/2 year in a slip, for about what you paid. I like working on boats so I can't remember any jobs we had to pay for. Good video and mercifully short!
During the 90s, my father maintained (and fixed) several older sailboats. One of his philosophies about sailing was that it's for people without a fixed timetable!
That's def. true... I'll bet a lot of people buy sailboats without realizing that you can't get anywhere for a vacation with only a week to spare... you really need more time. Or... it has to be just about the journey and not getting anywhere.
1970 $500 westerly cirrus 22. New dynema running rigging $300 small boat so i buy cut ends on the sale rack. Solar panel $50. mppt $110. New through hulls $30. Marine head discarded for a composting head. Through hull re-used for a urinel $20. D8 tractor battery savlvaged $back pain. (100 lbs) cooking $20 camping stove suspended with chain to a 3 point( holds it tight) gimbal so $25. $105 diesel heater (chinese) $200 to install it and not die a horrible death. Force air heat not too bad. Led bulbs to replace $100? Ish. Propane hot water on demand water heater for hot showers $60 a $100 to get the yanmar 1 gm10 running solid. Bottom paint and blister repair $250. By far my most expensive thing so far has been moorage
This boat i can circumnavigate with. just need too install the roller coaster bars. That said i met a couple with a baby in cancun they sailed a catalina 27 from seattle. Not the best boats but they float. The rest is the guy in charge
I’m so excited, this is my main goal right now. I plan on living in a sail boat full time, paying a slip, and working as an electrician to afford it. These boats are getting cheap! Time to make the jump
I bough a 19 ft to learn to sail, I don't have the intention to spend much on it because my aim is to get a bigger boat soon I fill confident on sailing, and like you I shop around because every boat I seen looked like a chickencoops. One thing I want to re rig on this boat is to be able to control all sails from the cockpit so I will invest on hardware for it. Thanks for your post
Keep in mind that on a larger, heavier boat it's not bad going to the mast to raise the main... on the 22 it was too little space to walk and rocked too badly but it's pretty nice on the larger boat. Your new boat will likely already have the jib on a furler
We’re about the same my Catalina 22 cost me $5500 but has 4 sets of sails, three of which are good, the one that isn’t will be a backyard sun shade. Outside of the purchase price I probably have a $1,000 into it. You are right the bigger the boat the more the costs add up. I’m lucky to be in Texas where slip fees are affordable. Not focusing on the cost, I will say that I love the way the Catalina sails. When the wind is right it always puts a smile on my face. It is comfortable enough without the big headaches of a larger boat. I prefer it to sailing a sunfish, which is fun to sail but really beats up your body. If I were to do it again I would have bought the 17’ trailerable $1,200 wooden snipe I passed on, restored it sailed it on my local lake and probably be out $3,000 total. So far this has been a great learning boat but I have had my troubles with it as well. The magic of a small boat is to not have to deal with systems, that is where the costs and the headaches start. My goal for this Catalina is to learn to sail it well, then find the kitchen slide out and use it as a dedicated camper.
We have the same goal except I wonder if the kitchen slide out is not needed. A gas stove is fine and then you save the much needed space inside. Plus, with small gas burner, you can cook in the cockpit too, or on a little island you're parked next to.
Adventures In Paradise I saw a slideout at my club, it needs restoration, but it has the drawers and water tank that make it a good option. But you are right a small gas stove is fine, I use it to sail on a local lake and don’t trailer it.
Had the "official " slide out gally. Did not like the sink drain discharge location that would gain water when heeled - never did leak. But took that out and added a catch tank for the grey water. Used it one time to make the kids hot chocolate. Best thing about is it did help with the resale price of 5k. (New sails, outboard, copper bottom job, new keel pin/bearings & the list goes on.)
Great information. I agree that the cost to restore your yacht, However I would double the cost, to get somewhere near the restore/rebuilt boat. In my country(NZ) the cost of parts and equipment would be 50% more. What you end up with is a yacht like yours, having spend $4250 is now Worth ? $3000-$4000
Hey man, great video. I just picked up a ‘79 Catalina 22. Do you by chance have a video of rigging the boat and stepping the mast? That would be insanely helpful. Thanks!
I want to re-rig the boat but I don't have a video of that yet. I have not stepped the mast and that's on my list also, adding a mast light and windvane and then replacing the standing rigging.
Sounds about right. Ive got and had a few trailer sailers and if looking at a boat now I divide the price between sails and rigging, hull and interior, engine, and Trailer. Any one of these could be a complete deal breaker if the cost of replacement repair is nearly as much as the boat is worth. I have had more trouble with trailers than the rest combined, but that's because I don't have a workshop and serious tools for fixing these things.
Agreed. On our four year old power boat, the trailer had issues from the sale water... it doesn't matter than I rinse it with salt away when we're done boating, it sits there in the parking lot all day after being submerged ... I just spent like $800 fixing it up with a new axle, brakes, all new nuts and bolts/rims...all this boating stuff can get expensive. It's annually that I have to replace the jack/wheel and the winch strap.
No sailors wife’s are allowed to watch lmfao. So true, my wife will let me buy a boat one day but if she really knew the cost, I would be getting a model boat.
Great video. Very informative. I recently purchased a 76 Catalina 27’ completely restored and upgraded with new everything for $5K. Heavy duty chain plates, new sails, new battery with solar charger, new Ritchie compass, new composting toilet, new upgraded rigging, new VHF radio, new bottom paint plus a boatload of maintenance and cleaning supplies, Johnson 8HP outboard, brand new rail mount gas grill, and a bunch more. It included the slip fee for another month and haul out, pressure wash and winter storage which would have been $1K so I basically got it for $4K. I love it! Now I just gotta learn how to sail. It’s currently in Connecticut, but I’d like to snowbird it to Florida next fall.
1969 Neptune 16 = $600. New antifouling bottom paint =$400. New full standing rigging + running rigging + deck mast step plate = $1700. New companion way door =$125. New traveler block, New outhaul block, New jib block = $200 New trolling motor, deep cycle battery, dock lines, anchor, anchor chain + anchor line = $760 New tires and wheels for the trailer = $150.... Total $3935 for a "cheap" craigslist sailboat.
Oh yea, title and registration... invasive species permit, New ball for my hitch to match the trailer, 12 volt switch and interior lighting, bilge pump, fish finder, cushions. And of course, more.
I restored a 76 Catalina 22 it was a blast I paid 1,900 put about 3,000 in her it is a beautiful boat now. I love sailing her on the rivers in Washington
Thank you for your videos. I am a single guy looking for a 20-25 footer to primarily live aboard and perhaps some coastal sailing down the road. Is it wise to hire a boat inspector? I would hate to buy a junk and have it sink while I am sleeping. That would be a bad night for sure.
I don't know that getting a survey will be worth it for a simple bargain boat, but it's always better to get one if you can afford it. Try watching some survey videos and do one yourself it's a simple boat. I can't see how you'd be living in anything less than 25'.
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Thank you, just had a 13yr relationship go south and was looking at sail boat living to keep my head above water so to speak I love the water and fishing it seems like a sure thing
I’m getting out of 22 year and tomorrow I’m looking at a 25 foot sailboat.. I understand
Lol I sold the ring I was going to give to my ex, and now I get to spend that money on a boat
@@theflyingfanatic3684 it’s ok, the boat will require less maintenance
@@echoesandether go for it, I'm doing the same. You won't look back,good luck
Good luck!
Paid $800 for my 1974 CAT22, and have put in maybe a couple of grand bringing her back to life. I’m having so much fun with this boat, the process, and honing my sailing!
Nice to hear! I am looking forward to refit my "Bandholm 24". I will start in Juny 2021 and hope, i will have fun, like you. Good Sailing!
@@TokiBruchpilot04Good luck and thanks for watching!
I bought a 17' "pocket yacht" for $350.
I spent about an additional $1000 restoring it. Couldn't be happier for a measly $1300 boat! Me and the kid love our weekend camping trips in it.
Brilliant!
How cool.. my dad worked at this boat factory back in the 80’s, he was happy to see one again. ✨☺️
That’s awesome. He did a public service 😊
Just getting into the world of sailing and your videos are incredibly helpful. Thank you so much. Please keep up the great work!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Adventures In Paradise if you don’t mind me asking, what size anchor did you upgrade to? Specifically, how heavy did you go? I am getting a 20 foot boat in a few weeks and am exploring the multiple upgrades that I am going to have to make. Thanks again!
@@Nathanburby went from 17lbs to 22lbs. The 22 held in four high wind thunderstorms where sailflow sent me alerts for wind over 40mph. The 17lb anchor would drag a little once and a while. And you're welcome, thanks for watching!
Awesome video! Thank you so much breaking this down as cleanly as you did I am sure it wasn't easy to count out all of your past payments like that for us.
thats a good effort .. way cheaper than I thought it would be.
Love the series of videos. One thing you forgot to mention is if you trailer the boat you have to demast it after every outing, and restep the mast every time you go out. For that reason alone many keep the trailerables wet.
I also think that when buying a small boat in the water many will not have them gone over by a professional so you need to have someone show you how to look for blisters or soft spots.
I never trust that sails are new, I always assume all sails and running rigging needs to be replaced.
And as you have said alot, small boats are not fast but sailing is the ultimate way to boat. It does not get any better than a fast broad reach in good winds.
Great channel, keep up the posts
Good point, thanks for adding that.
So in love with the Catalina 22. Couldn't thank you more for such awesome info fun videos ⛵
Great overview, many of those items can be reduced in cost with the right shopping around, I work in industrial equipment sales and have access to discount on stainless hardware companies that sell specific marine fittings, cleats, pulleys etc.. and you would be amazed at the crazy margins these companies charge for basic stuff, pays to shop around and ask for discount.
Another great video for a person looking to get in the game. Very well made and helpful.
Thanks for posting up your costing video. Great inspiration. I have a small fiberglass fishing boat currently and have started to look for a trailer sailer yacht, and watching videos like this shows that with a bit of effort, you don't have to spend a fortune to get out there on the water.
Thank you for your interesting, informative and entertaining video which meticulously detailed your total costs and the work required to get the boat into a good, seaworthy condition.
The image of the rudder with the abundant marine life infestation foretold the condition on he hull.
Your transformation of the boat was quite remarkable and she looks fantastic. Subscribed.
There’s a lot of good advice in your video. I’m interested to by small sailboat and your video are inspiring. I’m from Canada near Montreal and Catalina 22 footers are often available and it seems a good choice for a first boat. Thanks for all the great videos
Good luck and let me know what happens!
Bought a Precision 18 for $350 - it was advertised for $2500. A foot of water inside, tons of mold, trailer needed lights and tires. I was going to walk away until the owner asked what I would realistically pay and I told her I would think twice about talking it if she gave it to me. (True!) The upsides: it came with two sets of sails and cushions that were stored inside, a 2011 Yamaha four stroke motor, many extra's. Took me two days to get the trailer back to road worthiness for a 2 hour drive back home. Spent over $2200 and untold hours getting her to perfect condition (two years later, teak extra's and buffing she's purdy slick sight)
Great video. Thanks for all the info. Bought Catalina 30 last month for close to 8K. I am 1/2 way through repairs and in for $5k so far. Needed to replace heat exchanger, bilge pump, engine parts. Other costs include mechanical parts, cleaning supplies, dinghy, outboard and lines. At least, sails are in great condition. 🥴
Nice! I looked at a Cat 30 today. Looks like an awesome boat! Did you get it surveyed/professionally inspected before you bought it? Great buying price!
Thanks for the info. I have been sucked into sailing again over the past couple years. Did some sailing with my family when I was younger and living at home. Now I would like my own boat for my family. Something small and trailerable, but big enough for sleeping and cooking for overnight trips. The C22 seems to fit the bill. Not sure where I would keep it, or if I could even get the boat backed up our steepish driveway. Toying around with the idea at any rate. I like your videos.
Great point about checking part availability prior to buying your boat. Nice breakdown and I felt it was very fair assessment. Thanks!
Thanks for the great educational video, and a huge thanks for not ruining it with crappy background music while you're talking. I don't know why some people are compelled to add annoying background music throughout the video.
Thanks! Music can move a video along while helping set the mood and tone of the video. But you're right, not always a good thing!
Perfect tutorial straight to the point I love it thank you
Great intro to cot of learning to sail.Thanks for your taking the time to make and post this info.
great video! thanks for sharing your experience. I am also looking to get into sailing and buy my first sailboat. please keep making videos...
G'Day I just but a catalina 25 and just now looking at what it needs in terms of fixing. Some of the items you mentioned are on my list, good to have the cost listed. Cheers
Was given a Cat 22 a month ago by a new friend. This is very helpful in showing me what to expect to get it reliable after a 3 year 'break' with the previous owner.
I bought my 78 Catalina for $1500 with trailer. A few leaky windows but ready to sail. I owned it for two weeks before hurricane Katrina took her. 😢
Just found your videos and subscribed!! We purchased our first sailboat a couple weeks ago. We didn’t know how to sail, in fact we never even stepped foot on a sailboat until we bought this one. But always we had the dream to learn and hopefully retire on one someday. We bought a 24ft Neptune that was in great condition and ready to sail for $4500 and still dealing with title transfer and marina slip rental transfer so the cost keeps adding up (slow process with covid-19) Thanks for posting these videos and we look forward to watching all of them!!
Wow, thanks! Hopefully you can make a video or two so we can see!
Adventures In Paradise we actually just starting to learn how to do videos. We currently have a couple videos I posted on my channel a few weeks ago with our other boat. Soon I will have a couple more videos to post and they will include our sailboat.
Marine connection Liquidators in Ft. Pierce. They have so much at about 1/2 of West Marine prices. Amazing store for marine equipment, parts and accessories.
Thanks, very helpful, getting ready to purchase one hopefully and this will help to be aware of some things that may be needed, appreciate it.
1980 Pearson 23 Cat, paid $1500, was in great shape with a trailer and fresh bottom paint, my most expensive part is the slip fee of $335 a month, need to move it to a cheaper lake 🙃 . No major investment other than cleaning supplies and my solar add on.
In Dec.2023 I bought a 30` Hunter from a sailor in New Port Richey Fl. for 2k with 3 good sails, rigging and solar power with a running 2QM20 yanmar that needed a raw water pump rebuilt . He needed the boat out of the slip for a new boat so bargaining was easy. Me my Brother and sister in-law motored and sailed the boat from NPR to Port Saint Lucie Fl. across the Okeechobee Waterway 6 days with no issues. Couldn`t be happier.
I got my C-22 about a month ago for $2,800 on ebay. I keep mine in the Great Salt Lake, and my slip fees are significantly less than yours, mine are $126 per month in the summer which includes water. Fortunately mine is in really good shape, only things I have added are wax about $25, registration $380, and a solar power controller for $17. But... I think new sheets and halyards may be in the future...
Good job! You came out fine!
1980 Neptune 16:
Boat/trailer/good sails $700
Standing rigging $150
Keep pivot pin, shims and lock bolt $150 (labor, had done)
Keel winch cable $100 (labor, had done)
Running rigging $75
I built a custom hatch $40
New portlights $25
New 2.5 Suzuki $80
Hinges $15
Compass $80
Anchor/rode $75
Misc odds/ends
Total = $1M
Yeah this seems about average for the misc odds and ends.
Does the number after the model/make represent the amount of feet?
Kweku - not always, but often.
@@Verradonairun oh ok
bought a mcgregor 25 in march for 3,500 and spent 1,500 more getting her perfect!!now i have just bought a hunter 41 and that is more than i care to mention here lol
I just got a Macgregor 25 myself. paid $500 I have about 1000 in her. Love this boat.
Mark Rooster sweet they are great little boats and fast to boot.
I have a Hunter 376
Yeah...but your McGregor is 5x the boat his is...You can't put a 30hp outboard on his and go water skiing, it's not self righting, not trailerable, not water ballast..Your best is practically unsinkable! ...and it's one of my favorites!!
Man you kicked ass on the DIY.
1965 Columbia 26 and 1993 mercury 9.9 outboard in a well for $1900. Needed cleaning to sail. Needs lots of work to be proud. Love learning to sail. Your clip wrangling the headsail is me. I pay $1200/year for the slip. She is on the Mississippi River.
Had a 1990 Catalina Capri 26, which was a solid, dependable, manageable boat, that was in great shape at 15 years old. Over the course of 8 years, we upgraded electronics and electrical, rigging & lines, and sails. When we had to sell her, we did well -- getting back 70% of what we paid for her originally, not counting the upgrades. When we looked at what we shelled out for those 8 great seasons on the water, it wasn't bad at all. When we were looking for a boat, there was a lot of push from brokers to get something bigger "so we wouldn't grow out of it quickly," but we knew what we wanted as a couple. Finding an solid older Catalina, especially the 22, 25 or 27 should be doable for most prospective sailors if they take their time and learn what needs elbow grease vs. what needs $$.
Great video, I bought a 1976 C22 about 10yrs ago, in a bit better shape than yours for 2K. Upgrade costs were certainly comparable to yours. All said and done probably about $4800-$5000. Worth it to me... like you said; the availability of parts, data and information on the Catalinas is a huge game changer with older ⛵️ 😎
Bought a C-22 three years ago and love it. Best additions: Solar panel and auto pilot. Cheers from the Tennessee River.
Yea, I need to get auto pilot. I hope to get one this fall.
Didn't get one yet. I have a tiller tamer I'm going to play with first.
Great video! Just picked up a McGregor 25 foot. Doesn't need much, I'm starting on it next week. Pretty excited @
I picked up a McGregor 25 also. I have about $1700.00 into it. paid $500. Most expensive part was new rigging and sandblasting the keel. Its going to be a great little boat when its done. I think you will love yours
I love these sailboat, look to acquire one soon
i want one too...the weekends would be so fun
Nice thanks for the actual numbers.
Love your content always, Thanks What is your opinion on the Pearson Alberg 35?
Very informative, thanks for the video!
Excellent info. I bet the cost would be double if you had paid someone to do all that work(?)
Closer to tripled, most jobs are materials x 2 for labor. 1k in parts, 2k for labor.
Tripple at least marine labor is out rageous.
Great video...very informative!!!
Really interesting information. Thanks for sharing. Enjoying your channel immensely - though im not a sailor and dont have a boat (yet!).
Thanks for watching.. that's all we used to do, watch it and learn things for about a year until we bought a sailboat.
@@AdventuresInParadise That's my plan, too. But I just moved to Mallorca, and I'm about to start my first sailing lessons at the national sailing school so at least I'm on the right track. Everyone I ever met has told me that buying a boat is buying yourself an endless money pit but, thanks to your and other videos, I realise that it doesn't have to be like that - and that you don't have to be a millionaire to enjoy sailing. Thanks again.
It helps if you can do some work yourself. Hiring other people would be expensive. @@scrumpymanjack
Hello AIP - I bought my 1970 C-22 (hull #284) for $356.00 on E-bay through a charity auction - a real risk for sure. However, it turned out to be an awesome deal. Keel is in really good shape, rudder is good shape, keel winch and cable are in usable shape (new cable and new winch provided in sale), Rigging is in excellent shape (I bent one turnbuckle end learning how to raise the mast but there were two extra TB in the box of stuff), Sails are in OK shape (main needs replaced), hull is solid below the split line (no leaks or soft spots), leaked through the deck in spots (all fixed now). There are other problems above the split line but nothing that won't allow me to sail this year and fix her in the winter. Two areas of wood in the deck that are going bad need to be cut out and replaced. Bought a new mast step/Bolt $30, Fiberglass epoxy/cloth $20, Outboard 15hp Johnson $400, Polyurethane $16, Topping lift $20, Trailer winch and Strap $70, CG safety flares $30, new trailer tires $320, screws/nuts/bolts/hasp - $100. So I guess I have about $1400 in it right now. Deck repairs will be about another $100 in epoxy, glass, wood, sand paper and then paint... No electronics yet??
WOW! Yea, I watched those auctions and saw some really good boats going to nothing sometimes... that's great!
I bought my C22 for $500, but it was in way worse condition. I'm one of those idiots that likes a challenge. It's easier to list what is original on the boat since that since that is a much shorter list, everything else is new. Add to that a blister repair job, full restoration of the keel, painting the entire boat, etc. New sails, new outboard, new rigging, new hardware, etc... I spent about $7K on parts and supplies, that doesn't include my labor.
Hey Luke. Did you do any deck work? I have a soft spot on my 1974 C22 and wondering if I should tackle from the top or under and thru the liner. I'm leaning towards top. Thx
@@tahoetimm9662 I only had one rotten spot around the electrical thru deck fitting for the mast wiring, it was about 4 x 4 inches. Repairing deck rot is always easier from the top on a Catalina (any model). The catch 22 is that you're going to tear up the non-skid pattern on the gelcoat which really can't be duplicated in a repair. If you fix extensive deck rot just plan on re-doing all the nonskid with Kiwi Grip, you only need one gallon to do the entire boat and its a really great deck surface. It also has the added bonus of hiding imperfection if your new fiberglass top surface isn't automotive grade bodywork level.
You are such a bad ass. Glad I found the channel.
I love this model boat and looking on buying one before year end and after i learn how to sail
This sailor is a wife, her husband is not allowed to watch!
Great video thanks for the heads up 🤙
Thanks for your video I found it very interesting
this is awesome! thanks for making this.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
wow, you got a great deal. Great video
I owned 9757 and brought her back. It was in much better starting condition that yours was, and admittedly I also went through Catalina direct for a lot of my repairs. Looking back I realize that I paid CD a hefty commission for what they supply you with. Gerhauer is the cheapest option for replacement running rigging but is quality. For the same price you can find higher quality brands like lewmar and harken. Better halyards can be bought for much less. For me it was a joy to refit my boat and that’s how it should be looked at, like you said a hobby.
I'm just starting to consider a sailboat, somewhat to sail, mostly to live on. The 22 might be a tad small, but I think I might be able to get by on a 25. You're videos are very informative and I'm sure I'll look like a total clown when I get started sailing. Keep 'em coming!
22 will be too small.. like living in a car... thanks!
Going to look at a Catalina 22 this Thursday. They are good little boats
Let me know what happens!
For that size I would definitely opt out for a Cirrus 22 from Westerly if you like separate cabins, standing headroom, separate heads, with a proper little galley, sink and a inboard engine.
@@obiwanfisher537 the issue is finding them. Cat 22s are *everywhere*. Even the 25s and 27s are pretty common if you want something a bit bigger still on the cheap.
@@DFX2KX The cirrus is the best selling boat from Westerly. I dont think theyrehard to come by. They even were exported to the us in big numbers.
I was half expecting a comment from your wife on here 🤣
Great video,keep it up,!
Super cool. Informative.
We’re in the same boat (pun intended ) that’s about what I have in my 84 minus the propane outboard I bought . I think it’s a good value for the dollar even though they always need something but hey what hobby doesn’t !
wauuu what a video. I just retire was looking for a 36 to 42 footer monohull i have no experience in the water other than my bathtub and rubber duckie, my budget was like 20k but after watching a few of your videos I think I have decided to look for a cheap boat give it love while I learn to enjoy it see if is what I want to do then after a year and go from there! thank you very much for the help
Thanks for letting me know. You might then find out what you want in a boat.
@@AdventuresInParadise o my friend decided to follow your advice a catalina 22 like you said easy to learn parts everywhere my budget was high but i think you are very correct ,better learn small. i been watching all the videos but never 1 down to earth ! thank you so much for replying god bless
Excelente video!!
Thanks for the very informative video my friend. I envy you for the price you find it . Unfortunately at the other way of the ocean here in Greece the same exact boat has a price tag of more than 7000 euros (almost 8000 dollars) .. We don't have so expensive moorings but every thing else wow... you are on the cheap side of the world. Take care of yourself and your boat my friend.
Great comment!, very interesting! There are parts of the USA where sailboats cost much more, but here in Florida there are many. Thank you.
Great video. I’m a woman with a 23ft pocket cruiser but agree with you on the problem of sailor wives (or husbands) not appreciating the costs. But I find it’s the project costs that are part of the buzz - I can’t wait to spend the next $50 on my boat!
Thanks! Happy Sailing!
What a steal!! Thanks, helpful good info.
Super helpful. Thank you.
We bought our 1974 C22 at my daughters school fundraiser (it was donated) for $450. Not only was she complete, but had 3 sets of sails. A lot of elbow grease to get her pretty and a few simple repairs, mostly tightening things and some rewiring, all done by us. I always thought I would want a big boat, but 22 is a good size for single hand sailing and for trailering. Thans for the great videos!
Valiant 40
Purchase 20k
Insurance (2 years) 2k
Slip (2 years) 7k
Upgrades repairs 40k
(Engine seals, batteries, sealing water tanks, port holes, man holes, new sheets, new windlass, etc etc etc)
20' boats are exponentially cheaper, but we are also looking to go offshore.. so their is that.
Thanks for the video.
Great video. I am looking for my first boat and wanted a realistic overview of the cost.
Looks great! Notice how the sails are the most expensive part. That's why mine look like shit and I will continue to run them until they are rags.
I'm going to run the jib out. They are expensive.
It was about 20 years old when our "original" roller-furled genny blew out while on the water. Tough to cough up for a brand new 130 genoa, but dang the improvement in the sailing was worth the pain to the pocket.
I just got my 1982 Catalina 22, sail number 11353, about 3 weeks ago... I actually traded a $800 guitar and a $200 amplifier for it that I was no longer using ( I have many many more) . Complete with 2 older main sails in fair condition, one rather nice jib, and no motor. I'm sure it will need all new running rigging, and possibly new standing rigging also. I will make brand new seat cushions with new foam with my industrial sewing machines. I don't have to do everything at once, one step at a time while enjoying sailing ... I will certainly do the most important items first, keel cable and pin, etc. including some trailer work too. I do expect to have at least $4,500 all in all. 😎⛵
Thank you so much for this!
I've redone 3 sailboats so far. Very gratifyingand fun!
Boss, you did good damn good, nice boat I don't know about 22 foot but still a nice boat
I bought a C22 for $2,000 in about the same shape. You didn't mention the trailer but ours came with one. Your figures are in line with what we did although bottom paint was additional. We kept the boat 1/2 year on a mooring, which was about $1500 plus a state-required inspection and lease of about $500/year. The other 1/2 year in a slip, for about what you paid. I like working on boats so I can't remember any jobs we had to pay for. Good video and mercifully short!
Thanks! I didn't want a boat with a trailer since I'd keep it in the water so specifically looked for one without a trailer.
Bought a wrecked Macwester 28 £500 cost 1k t0 move it to my yard about half done spent £1500 so far in 4 months. Great video nice hobby.
During the 90s, my father maintained (and fixed) several older sailboats. One of his philosophies about sailing was that it's for people without a fixed timetable!
That's def. true... I'll bet a lot of people buy sailboats without realizing that you can't get anywhere for a vacation with only a week to spare... you really need more time. Or... it has to be just about the journey and not getting anywhere.
1970 $500 westerly cirrus 22. New dynema running rigging $300 small boat so i buy cut ends on the sale rack. Solar panel $50. mppt $110. New through hulls $30. Marine head discarded for a composting head. Through hull re-used for a urinel $20. D8 tractor battery savlvaged $back pain. (100 lbs) cooking $20 camping stove suspended with chain to a 3 point( holds it tight) gimbal so $25. $105 diesel heater (chinese) $200 to install it and not die a horrible death. Force air heat not too bad. Led bulbs to replace $100? Ish. Propane hot water on demand water heater for hot showers $60 a $100 to get the yanmar 1 gm10 running solid. Bottom paint and blister repair $250. By far my most expensive thing so far has been moorage
This boat i can circumnavigate with. just need too install the roller coaster bars. That said i met a couple with a baby in cancun they sailed a catalina 27 from seattle. Not the best boats but they float. The rest is the guy in charge
I’m so excited, this is my main goal right now. I plan on living in a sail boat full time, paying a slip, and working as an electrician to afford it. These boats are getting cheap! Time to make the jump
I bough a 19 ft to learn to sail, I don't have the intention to spend much on it because my aim is to get a bigger boat soon I fill confident on sailing, and like you I shop around because every boat I seen looked like a chickencoops. One thing I want to re rig on this boat is to be able to control all sails from the cockpit so I will invest on hardware for it. Thanks for your post
Keep in mind that on a larger, heavier boat it's not bad going to the mast to raise the main... on the 22 it was too little space to walk and rocked too badly but it's pretty nice on the larger boat. Your new boat will likely already have the jib on a furler
Great information, do you know if the Macgregor 26 has a surplus of Parts? I am interested in buying a Boat as well. Thank you for your help
Well, they're still in business making boats so you should be okay!
We’re about the same my Catalina 22 cost me $5500 but has 4 sets of sails, three of which are good, the one that isn’t will be a backyard sun shade. Outside of the purchase price I probably have a $1,000 into it. You are right the bigger the boat the more the costs add up. I’m lucky to be in Texas where slip fees are affordable. Not focusing on the cost, I will say that I love the way the Catalina sails. When the wind is right it always puts a smile on my face. It is comfortable enough without the big headaches of a larger boat. I prefer it to sailing a sunfish, which is fun to sail but really beats up your body. If I were to do it again I would have bought the 17’ trailerable $1,200 wooden snipe I passed on, restored it sailed it on my local lake and probably be out $3,000 total. So far this has been a great learning boat but I have had my troubles with it as well. The magic of a small boat is to not have to deal with systems, that is where the costs and the headaches start. My goal for this Catalina is to learn to sail it well, then find the kitchen slide out and use it as a dedicated camper.
We have the same goal except I wonder if the kitchen slide out is not needed. A gas stove is fine and then you save the much needed space inside. Plus, with small gas burner, you can cook in the cockpit too, or on a little island you're parked next to.
Adventures In Paradise I saw a slideout at my club, it needs restoration, but it has the drawers and water tank that make it a good option. But you are right a small gas stove is fine, I use it to sail on a local lake and don’t trailer it.
Had the "official " slide out gally. Did not like the sink drain discharge location that would gain water when heeled - never did leak. But took that out and added a catch tank for the grey water. Used it one time to make the kids hot chocolate. Best thing about is it did help with the resale price of 5k. (New sails, outboard, copper bottom job, new keel pin/bearings & the list goes on.)
Great information. I agree that the cost to restore your yacht, However I would double the cost, to get somewhere near the restore/rebuilt boat.
In my country(NZ) the cost of parts and equipment would be 50% more. What you end up with is a yacht like yours, having spend $4250 is now Worth ? $3000-$4000
Thank you.
Hey man, great video. I just picked up a ‘79 Catalina 22. Do you by chance have a video of rigging the boat and stepping the mast? That would be insanely helpful.
Thanks!
I want to re-rig the boat but I don't have a video of that yet. I have not stepped the mast and that's on my list also, adding a mast light and windvane and then replacing the standing rigging.
Hey Brandon. Are you trailering and stepping the mast?
Sounds about right. Ive got and had a few trailer sailers and if looking at a boat now I divide the price between sails and rigging, hull and interior, engine, and Trailer. Any one of these could be a complete deal breaker if the cost of replacement repair is nearly as much as the boat is worth. I have had more trouble with trailers than the rest combined, but that's because I don't have a workshop and serious tools for fixing these things.
Agreed. On our four year old power boat, the trailer had issues from the sale water... it doesn't matter than I rinse it with salt away when we're done boating, it sits there in the parking lot all day after being submerged ... I just spent like $800 fixing it up with a new axle, brakes, all new nuts and bolts/rims...all this boating stuff can get expensive. It's annually that I have to replace the jack/wheel and the winch strap.
Thank you,Sir🇨🇦
it truly helped me understand
Great info
No sailors wife’s are allowed to watch lmfao. So true, my wife will let me buy a boat one day but if she really knew the cost, I would be getting a model boat.
LOL... Susy bought me a model sailboat boat as a joke when I wanted a sailboat. It's the little wooden boat in some of my videos.
Great video. Very informative. I recently purchased a 76 Catalina 27’ completely restored and upgraded with new everything for $5K. Heavy duty chain plates, new sails, new battery with solar charger, new Ritchie compass, new composting toilet, new upgraded rigging, new VHF radio, new bottom paint plus a boatload of maintenance and cleaning supplies, Johnson 8HP outboard, brand new rail mount gas grill, and a bunch more. It included the slip fee for another month and haul out, pressure wash and winter storage which would have been $1K so I basically got it for $4K. I love it! Now I just gotta learn how to sail. It’s currently in Connecticut, but I’d like to snowbird it to Florida next fall.
1969 Neptune 16 = $600. New antifouling bottom paint =$400. New full standing rigging + running rigging + deck mast step plate = $1700. New companion way door =$125. New traveler block, New outhaul block, New jib block = $200 New trolling motor, deep cycle battery, dock lines, anchor, anchor chain + anchor line = $760 New tires and wheels for the trailer = $150.... Total $3935 for a "cheap" craigslist sailboat.
Oh yea, title and registration... invasive species permit, New ball for my hitch to match the trailer, 12 volt switch and interior lighting, bilge pump, fish finder, cushions. And of course, more.
But the wind is free!
That's what they told me when I bought my first hang glider...
I restored a 76 Catalina 22 it was a blast I paid 1,900 put about 3,000 in her it is a beautiful boat now. I love sailing her on the rivers in Washington
Is that Coquina Key in St Pete Florida? Looks exactly like the houses across the road from me
Yes, that's where we bought Knot Enough From.
Thank you for your videos. I am a single guy looking for a 20-25 footer to primarily live aboard and perhaps some coastal sailing down the road. Is it wise to hire a boat inspector? I would hate to buy a junk and have it sink while I am sleeping. That would be a bad night for sure.
I don't know that getting a survey will be worth it for a simple bargain boat, but it's always better to get one if you can afford it. Try watching some survey videos and do one yourself it's a simple boat. I can't see how you'd be living in anything less than 25'.
Can you sail that one down to Puerto Rico or central America, or is it too small for that? Thanks for the info, nice video.
Well, you could sail it anywhere, but it's not the right boat for open ocean sailing. Thanks for the comment.