I find it hilarious that the film starts with "Every nation on Earth immediately put aside their differences to send their soldiers and civilians to certain death in an unwinnable war against aliens," but then the film ends with "what? The nations of the world couldn't possibly work together to fight an impending alien threat."
its dumb but they explained it a bit because everyone was onboard for a while with the future people giving them weekly intel. Then when the time link was broken because we lost they fell into chaos because at that point everyone knows it's all over, just a matter of time. That would make sense in that moment. Sure eventually the world would nut up and militarize even harder but on that day or two right after news broke it would be madness for a bit. As for not investigating a lead for the guy that brought back the key to humanity, that one was hard to believe. Someone would start barking up that tree somewhere in the coalition, especially since at that time that would be the only shred of intel that breeds hope.
I think that's a plausible analysis because humanity would 100% band together against a immediate extinction level threat against humanity, but once you say hey we've found thier exact location and we have the advantage. Now there's time to monopolize the creatures, do unorthodox experimenting on the creatures, secretly do this and that with the creatures. Governments are not to be trusted with type of information.
@@coldchillin8382 Because when it comes to saving Earth, a bunch of angry kids is more capable than the governments and their militarys. Totally In line with movie logic.
The way I remember it, they don't have much time with the time bridge they created. They move in time at the same pace. Basically once they landed the time kept going forward in both present and future. Meaning they still were on borrowed time until the aliens destroy the time machine. Now, why didn't they send researchers, samples and data to give earth 30 years to get ready is a good question.
why don't they sacrifice the future for a new future? That's like getting a second chance, if fail, go back again to another past, and create new future again, infinite 30 years.
That was one of my biggest problems with it. Ok you are developing your toxin in some shitty bunker...why the f*** dont you send it to the past with thousands fully functional research centers and all the still living experts. If a friggin science teacher can do it, then the biggest and brightest geniuses of the world would solve the problem in minutes. Nope...let us hide our plan until the very last second, even knowing for some time that there is no hope anymore in winning the war...because of "reasons".
Ketothev, this was my understanding as well. It was like two boats on the same river headed towards a waterfall. Even though one boat is miles behind the other, they're still moving down the river at the same pace, and the goal was to bring people from the rear boat to the fore boat to help steer it away from the waterfall.
"Colonel, we're gonna start the bombing." "These bombs are gonna drop in 6 minutes and there's nothing I can do about it." Uhhh, tell that guy to delay them. Why do you need to bomb the city at that exact time? "There's 12 of them." *Grabs 15* "Got em!"
@@ISavant An F22 is an odd pick for AGS. A squad of A-10s could've made a few passes with their main guns to keep casualties to a minimum, in addition to a larger payload of bombs to wipe out a larger number of aliens.
Btw, Pratt taking command after dropping in with a bunch of noobs with him having military experience is common, literally what many vets would do these days. Also, the randos with no experience pointing their weapons up and at people randomly is totally believable. Just giving you some of my experience from Afghanistan.
You fought giant non humanoid aliens that rip apart humans in Afghanistan and weren't shocked in any kind of of way...tell me more about that bullshit you dream of.
@@JoshTyrReece He's comparing the fact that inexperienced people forced to fight often make mistakes like pointing weapons at people randomly...not the fact that they fought aliens you dense expired burger
@Dariusz Kanak What? Take the Vorcha and contort them a bit so that they walk on all fours, then give them the spike-shooting tentacles from the necromorph babies and boom, you got the aliens from this movie. I didn't design the monsters, I'm just describing what they look like.
@@redleather420 Me and my sister watched it yesterday and was blown away at how incredibly stupid it all was. They claim that it's hard to kill the monsters at first, just to show us how they quite literally kill them super easy, they say that the scientists of the future didn't find their origin even tho any scientist worth their salt would be able to figure out what they themselves figured out, Chris goes on and on about how he won't leave hes daughter and wants to save her but that doesn't make any god damn sense, it's the most stupid moment in the movie since she won't even exist since that timeline does not exist at all, it was just a source of cringe every time he said he wouldn't leave her and he would save her yada yada crap plothole, there are a lot more that made this a garbage movie but those were the biggest irks for me and my sister, usually with these kind of movies you just turn of your brain and enjoy it, but they ACTUALLY gave such dumb explanations for everything that we just couldn't brush it off as you usually do with dumb action like the Rambo movies, not like you gonna critique Rambo movies based on the science it has if any, and that's the point: Tomorrow War TRIES to explain the plot, but ends up creating plotholes that are incredibly stupid.
@@redleather420 yeah, it’s a good movie. One of those that is entertaining but your not supposed to think too deeply about the time contradictions. It’s a sci fi action flick and I liked the father son, father daughter relationship. And surprisingly, a black dude survived by the end. Some people seem to be expecting some deep movie which must make sense with no plot holes. It’s quite clear what the movie is, and it succeeds at what it attempts to do.
This was something he used to do quite a lot during reviews a while back, "dumb writing", "stupid" etc. It's back! 😂 Don't get me wrong, I like Alex, I like all of them and enjoy the content, but that shits tired lol.. I'll just assume it's his way of dancing around spoilers
One of my favorite parts is how they kept talking about the alien's spaceship's this and the alien's spaceship that... Then when they finally find it there's this big reveal that they were just cargo and some other species was piloting the spacecraft!! Really!? That comes as a shock?! Do those aliens look like they're capable of building and piloting an interstellar spacecraft?!
White Spikes doesnt look as they would use even hammer or umbrella, they are just animals. I dont like alien spaceship stuff. Movie could end in 96 minutes and ending would be glorious - future is lost, present is save stuff. Alien hunting was well made, but i prefer "hell strange milion years old specie from below earth, respinsible for extinction events etc". They should make ending with more lairs, and information about many more ancient underground species, this would be cool.
Omg. everyone in this part of the comments attention deficit. The aliens they fight arent the same aliens that piloted the ship. Theres a brief scene where you see one hanging and its basically built like a human. They speculated that the aliens were carrying cargo to probably colonize or who knows what, but since there werent reports of any more aliens they concluded that probably earth wasnt their destination. But the monsters we see are probably creations.
@@gn019202492000 Thats acutaly an interesting question, that the film didn't awnser. How intelligent are these creatures? The female was able to "scent" the daugther and follow her later in the battle. The males had some kind of military hierachy (the one who was standing on the car and barking at the rest (and no one was shooting him)). But on the other hand, most of the time the behaved like animals and not realy smart ones. I would love to know more about that, especially if they are some kind of bio-weapon.
@@zidahya It did seem very plot dependent. The first out focus spotting of them, the creatures took out that squad with precision and stealth(almost thought it was like some psychic attack). The later seem to be stealthfully creeping up on Pratt's squad. But after that, they are just mindless monsters. Only using their projectile attack occasionally(We know they can rapidly fire it, as seen by the rows of them on the lab walls). The queen, red female, is sentient to know she had a toxin injected into her arm and self amputated it, but didn't know to just bite the rope that was binding her.
@goldfishprime does that not come down to risk assessment. The cable at the time wasn’t a huge threat but the toxin attacking the dna was lethal. Also the queen has an immediate response to seeing the toxin being identified and alerts the males to attack. The aliens show a lot of intelligence, flanking, taking cover, playing dead, tail movements to distract etc.
Yes, but it’s doubtful that a WHOLE ROOM of Americans would be watching it at a party. Plus, the future soldiers come in to whatever country the game Was being played in and start speaking in English? What? No one in the future is left who speaks Spanish? Yeah, convince me of that.
I know hundreds of ppl who only watch the world series nba finals the stanley cup and superbowl who dont give a shit about sports or the rules who ALSO watch the world cup so idk what they are talking about americans do watch soccer.
@@kimberlyrobinson3992 Is was the world championship in Qatar, which honestly I find rather difficult to use in a movie with all the real world scandals about it.
As a free-to-watch for prime members at least, I thought the movie was entertaining enough and worked as a no brainer popcorn flick, but it also is another example of how movies from the 80s were better than what we get these days when I compare this to Aliens.
I like 90's movies better but both 80's and 90's movies can become iconic and memorable while movies in the past 10 to 15 years or so are just crap. All we have now are remakes, plot holes action movies and marvel movies
While I did personally enjoy this movie, it was mainly because I was laughing at how illogical much of it was. I enjoy a good monkie brain movie, but I remember movies that respect the audience, the setting, and follow some basic logic.
@@aligmal5031 I mean, they had to, there were like 12 of them alive because everybody else fucking died falling 200 ft up or hit a building on the way down to the rift
Yea I don't understand what these guys don't get.. they clearly stated that ok you're in the R team. And the black guy was R team too and the one behind them.. and they sent the R team in one location. They're all the R together there. And main hero has military experience so he took control. It's basic thing.. not hard to understand
You guys really weren’t paying attention. They explained how time travel works in this movie. It’s not like a TARDIS where they can go anywhere in time. You make a bridge from one point to the destination time. Time doesn’t stand still, so once that bridge is established, that bridge is moving forward in time. Everything is happening in real time. Edit 7/3/21 - I was high as hell when I watched this, so I was focused on, EVERY, minuscule detail lol.
It's always "plotholes" when they just didn't hear or understand something 😂 It's all subjective anyway man! If you enjoyed it, that's all that matters
@@nx1379 agreed man! I enjoy the content, even the live streams they do.. But it does get a little frustrating when a film drums a concept into the audiences head, and they still somehow miss it and go on to label it a plothole 😂
The future soldiers, should have gave them Rubber band handle- grenade belts, so when the aliens inevitable devour them. The aliens digestive juices would dissolve the rubber band and explode the belts.
@@tzviru from the moment in the world cup to the moment chris pratt goes to the future, 11 months have passed, a new grenade is totally possible. The bad thing here is that everyone in charge is completely stupid, instead of jumping tanks they jump people
yeah, their bad or rather unsuitable gear really was a plothole. I mean the movie even shows that normal assault rifles basically do nothing against the aliens unless the untrained militia guys somehow manage to hit a specific weakpoint but in other scenes the movie shows that 50 cal rifles are very effective and rip the aliens apart no matter where they hit them. Makes you wonder why they didn't send everyone with high caliber rifles in the first place. Realistically those aliens shouldn't even have gotten anywhere near as far as they did since they are unable to fly and some advanced gunships from 20 years in the future with drone support could take all the time they need to shoot them from a safe distance.
My first thought when i saw the trailer for this movie was: why are they sending people from the past to fight in the future? Why not just go to the past say "aliens are going to invade on X day you have until then to prep tech and train soldiers. Also here's everything we know about the aliens" that would have actually been smart
@SP That's kind of how I would re-write the whole time travel thing. This would be a different timeline scenario where they can travel to the past, but the timelines split and whatever happens in the past won't change their future. So the time travelers will come back in time and say... "Guys, listen, in 30 years an alien force will invade Earth. We're loosing the war and need troops. In exchange for you giving us an army, we will give you everything we know about the aliens so that you can better prepare and maybe prevent the invasion."
@SP Exactly. And since the future people can travel through time, why can't they just abandon their timeline and live in the past and help them destroy the aliens with all their knowledge? They're not that many people so the old timeline have room for them.
The lack of training reminded me of a scene from Futurama where they go to war with those bouncing balls. Before they're deployed Nixon goes "This is the moment we've been training for all afternoon!" and then Zapp goes "The best strategy is the element of surprise.... SURPRISE!" and then just dumps the soldiers onto the planet. That's literally how they trained their soldiers in this movie
I thought that him seeing his daughter die was the cause of the loop that would make him leave his family because of how traumatized he was. Cause him leaving in the original timeline seemed outta right field so it would’ve been crazy for it to be one of those time travel loop things but I guess it was just because he couldn’t get a job.
The time travel is a little tricky. Maybe the fact that his daughter revealed his future changed the timeline. In other words, there exists a timeline where our hero returned, failed, and basically gave up on life. But after his daughter revealed his future, he redeemed himself, forgave his father, etc. and started on a better timeline. He basically was given a "second chance."
@@ce1474 that wouldn't make sense. Because of the mere fact the future people came back in time. See they try to say this is a single time line universe. But if that was the case, Chris pratt and crew already stopped the war, thus having no reason to send people back in time. The time travel in this movie makes zero sense.
@@MilkT0ast Yeah, the only way it'd make sense to me is if there are at least two separate timelines. This is why the people from the future are able to still exist when they are basically changing time.
Yeah him leaving his family was because of him not getting the job and getting depressed about his life - I think the idea was that in her past no future humans had arrived, etc, etc. But yeah, time travel never makes sense in movies, as you would end up in an endless loop.
Um this movie was the definition of stupid. I’ll admit entertaining But Very stupid and corny/trope heavy. I find myself agreeing with Alex a lot. The man just wants a story to follow the rules they set up. Why create the dialogue/exposition to not follow it. I think that’s what divides the truly brilliant stories from the good ones.
Makes wanna ask him what he has written lately. He puts me off so bad is hard to watch Joe's reviews any more. I think he is rubbing of on main Joe. Other joe still has a mind of his own.
It's clear that they didn't pay attention at all. They were scheduled for a week of training, but when the creatures attacked the research facility they needed to be scrambled ASAP into the portal, basically moving up their teleport drop by a week. I went into this film with below expectations, but I was pleasantly surprised by how entertaining it was.
Weird maybe it was you that didn't pay attention? When they arrived first is the part that shows the cook outfit. Not after the emergency alert that had them scramble. Remember this is the past that has plenty of resources to equip them to fight a future war for humanity's surivial. They could have been issued proper gear at that time, as some were some were, not really sure why you'd defend a stupid plot point just because you like the rest of the film, especially when I like it too. Also I like how you use one example to prove we didn't pay attention at all but ignore the 17 other points we brought up. Maybe you didn't pay attention to our entire video and therefore are being hypocritical? In summary you were wrong. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
That doesn’t explain why they decided to send through barely trained civilians with guns into a war zone. Most of them didn’t even have uniforms. What that should have had at the ‘past’ time-gate was ready trained and assembled elite rapid response teams comprised of Special Forces. We know not all of them were killed in the first wave. If for some reason these guys are all dead, then you have conscripted civilians who use to be soldiers waiting to be deployed for just such an emergency. I loved this film, but sending untrained civies who don’t even know how to load their guns just makes them liabilities to those assets you already have in the field.
You can not say that they had plenty of time because they were in the past. That is not how time travel works in this film, which they explain. Time keeps flowing. Thursday in the past is still Thursday in the future, but exactly 28 years later. If they wait an extra day in the past, an extra day passes in the future. The longer they take in the past, the longer it takes them to arrive in the future. I think they didn't get uniforms though because they were out of resources. The future has no resources left and the past has sent so many millions of people into the war that there just aren't any more uniforms to give out. Plus the military knows those people are going to die so why bother wasting resources on them beyond the bare essentials like a rifle and a side arm. Even their guns were crappy. Assuming all the good weapons got sent in early and they have whatever is still left.
@@filmonewaldeabsebhat Pretty sure it was tens of millions in the US alone though. They said thousands, but im certain that was an error in script writing. As in the plot they made it very clear pretty much everyone knew someone that has been drafted. Statistically that would only make sense with like 20-30 million drafts for the US, so thats around the number it was prob meant to be. Just as an additional verification they also said all military personal (from past) was already used up, thats hundrets of thousands of people for the US alone. And in the movie they say the civilian drafting has much higher numbers then the military personal was before that, so according to that alone it has to be *at least* a couple million in civilians (from the US alone).
Time is theoretical, we don't even know if it exists. Time is an invention that tells us how long the earth rotates around the sun. Yet the crew talks like it is supposed to function this way or that way. Does it branch, does it reset, does it not matter, does it matter, does it flow? No one knows but their hubris is annoying after ten minutes.
I see the no uniform part as simply being what is the point. It's not like the camouflage even works on the aliens. Also it's an immediate indicator that these are civilian soldiers so the full on soldiers can make decisions based on perceived skill.
We can calculate it. It’s 1000 people every 7 days and it’s been 2 years since the first event. So it’s only 1000 x 104 weeks. They have only sent 104000 troops from the worldwide draft. With a 20% survival rate. It’s peanuts really.
1. they explain they were supposed to have a week to train but didnt even have a day. 2. they explain the queen not being able to be tranqd, they said " shes feeling it but not going down" and they explain how much she needed chris pratt was surprised at the amount in a day and then she clarifies its for an hour not a day. 3. chris was chosen because his COMMAND experience. 4. the queen is shown to have intelligence. 5. they explained they did go to where the attacks started but there wasnt a ship there. 6. in all honesty it didnt feel like they were trying to win the war, she makes a comment that they are living on borrowed time. the past soldiers are meant to buy time. 7. they give the vials to the people from the future. (which you realized later)
the problem isn’t that they dont explain these points, its that they contradict them soon after they make them. For example, they say they’re giving them a week to train (for whatever reason), they dont get it because they need help to get these vital assets. Then they introduce this idea that the transfer was messed up and dropped them in the wrong place (because whatever), and introduces their mission that makes or breaks the war, but IMMEDIATELY introduce an airstrike to blow all that vital information away. Forester is introduced as being in command, so then who ordered that airstrike that she cant stop? Why would that airstrike take priority over the war-ending resources? Even how they drafted people, and why people go back and forth are only implied explanations, and are contradicted soon after they explain them.
@@MrOnetedify that’s really the worst of it. It’s frustratingly inconsistent, but looks great most of the time. It’s a rare time where I feel like character development was their problem. They had great character ideas, and ruined them with inconsistent situations to push the characters forward.
My biggest gripe with this film is the lack of any explanation of not using nuclear weapons on places not inhabited anymore. Also, how do you lose against an enemy with no air superiority?
Using nuclear weapons kills the planet for decades and causing a nuclear winter at that level. And everyone would just die of cancer so no that doesn’t make sense. And the creatures are also air borne and are legions and caught them by surprise . Technical superiority will not guarantee a victory in wars . They caught them off guard with large numbers and had air water and land abilities . That would give anyone a head start
So Chris Pratt stabs the queen with her own spike and it easily penetrates her armor. My question was why haven't the future soldiers either gathered up the billions of spikes stuck into everything around the planet and crafted them into bullets OR studied a spike and fabricate synthetic material exactly like it which is again made into bullets?
@@benlunch7618 no, during the hivebuster scene when they are trying to capture her, he drops down from the helicopter to save Miri and during the fight he picks up one of her spikes and stabs her in the side in order to get the queen off of Miri. It went right through the armor no problem.
@@benlunch7618 yea the design was really cool. Reminded me of the creatures from A Quiet Place but they are actually more lethal and harder to hide from.
@@benlunch7618 okay, so Chris made the queen shoot herself with a spike, in her side, which is armored, so my logic and question is still valid. The creatures spikes can penetrate their own armor, so the humans should have been harvesting them and making bullets out of them
I get what they boys are talking about when it comes to just going back to the past and even if he's daughter dies in the future as long as you save her in the past she'll be fine but as a father of 2 boys seeing your kids die before your eyes is the worst thing life can throw at you a parent
Bruh my little bro passed in the hands of our ma and I can still see the pain in her 11 years later. The death of a child is literally the end of a world for a parent. I hope if I’m blessed that I never witness that.
“This setup is so unrealistic” WW2 Soviet Union: “Hey conscript, the front line is that way, find a weapon when you get there. Try not to die. Good luck comrade!”
I know, I was expecting at least a single 40mm But nope, they all used m4s, with 7 inch barrels with an acog...why? Oh and lol they had reflexes on a 45° cant...but not a single person used it. And the stock and forgrip...disgusting.
Most Americans are oblivious to other things more popular in the world outside of their country. Because patriotism, the whole America is best mentality fuck the rest of the world
The thing that bugs me is that nothing changed in the present. They destroyed the threat, yet people still knew about the war. The same war that supposedly was prevented from happening. Never mind that they couldn't have known to do anything about it had the war not happened. The war had to happen in order for it to not happen. The whole scenario is impossible.
They did explain at Mach 5 90% of the military was gone, the worm holes move in parallel so one day in the future is one day in the past and they got thrown in fast to save the lab before what they called sabbath But it was explained super fast
They clearly didn’t take any notes. It’s more like they watched it then decided to do a review. This was the last straw…. So many better reviews that actually paid attention to the flick.
@@GetAlong2GetAlong bruh you are just trying to defend a terrible movie. They touched damn near every plot hole in this movie. Just because they didnt like the movie as much as you did doesnt mean their review is bad.
There were plenty of bad character decisions and cliché plot points, but the logic of the film holds up for the most part. If you think of it as two parallel universes that are trading personnel and resources, there isn’t necessarily a paradox. The only piece that doesn’t work is that the young soldiers that got trapped in the past now will exist in the same universe as themselves as babies. The explanation of the wormholes as evenly spaced rafts on a river was spot on. And even little things make sense, like why Pratt was put in charge right away when he first answered the comm. It was his daughter on the other end, so she already knew about his military experience and leadership qualities. Again, there was plenty of silliness in this film, but I think it was pretty logically consistent for the most part.
They really need to stop watching stuff together. I don’t know if they distract each other and talk through the movie but routinely I watch their reviews and they completely miss a plot point or explanation and then focus on it through the whole review as if it’s a plot hole. The three of them just form an echo chamber and repeat each others’ opinions and it’s irritating to watch. Why have 3 people to say the same thing?
That is not true. AJ tends to be more positive on movies and give leeway, Alex tends to be more negative and critical on movies, OJ tends to be more balanced and have the casual point of view. If you watched more than one review you would see this is the reason they have 3 people and why this review channel works.
@@BilionaireBoysSwag These guys are just wannabe critics. They hardly understand anything and are just really dumb. Alex is the dumbest of all thinking being harsh for no reason is being a good critic lol.
None of this is True. Amazing. What disgusts me is how'd you'd act like this over this film and we both ultimately liked. Ignoring it has stupid moments because you think we missed something that was explained (but still stupid). If it's explained it can't be stupid right? And yeah we totally always have the same opinions on every film we watch. Just admit you wanted me to come out here and be like 10/10 film. No plot holes, no stupid moments, like ingoring the most important mission for humanity to go back for untrained bearded dude ment for cannon fodder while jets drop Bombs directly on us cuz uhm he's kind?, perfect film.
I thought that they were going to go back in time and try to mass produce the solution and accidentally create the aliens in like a failed lab experiment creating the time loop.
That was basically implied by the end when they found the space ship. They were thinking about contacting the UN and other nations to handle it, but they were afraid of exactly that: them doing nothing or using the aliens as weapons, thus creating the future they were trying to stop
One thing I really liked was when the queen was hit with the first dose of toxin she bit her limb off to stop it. I hadn’t seen something like that before.
I actually thought the twist was the future humans were just using past people who were destined to die as food for the aliens to appease them and it's not about fighting them
When I saw the trailer, I was imagine the future alien were as smart as the alien in the edge of tomorrow that they gave human time travel tech so they can kill the grandfather of human to kill human faster
Alex doesn't understand the way they handled time in the movie. One week in the future is the same as one week in the past. They both move forward at the same rate. That's why they rushed the Civies into the future with limited/no preparation or time to gear up fully, because their facility that held the McGuffin was under attack. Preventing the attack in the past also does nothing to prevent it in the future timeline. That is why they are all prepared to die to make sure it gets back to the past, because they know they are fucked and they want to at least save the other timeline. They knew they couldn't mass produce enough toxin to save the last 500,000 people in time.
That is understandable what you are saying and i agree with you that the Multi-Universe theory would be better fit for this movie , but the paradox thing was mentioned in the movie by Dan and the Talkative guy as a theory. Basically Dan noticed that all the people being recruited where a certain age and all the Soldiers from the Future where very young, they theorized that they did that cause of a paradox( cant meet yourself or something like that), even thought the movie established a different timeline eventually.
@@MrOnetedify Yeah but the script writer put the theory in for a reason. Just like everything else they put at the start of the movie was there for a reason, from the volcano kid, to the dad having a plane, to the daughter reading a science book, etc.
the moment they opened a tether in the past during the World cup they would have altered the future..If they planned on dying off in the future anyway they should have sent back Intel to preserved life, instead they brought people from the past to be slaughtered.
@@Booneface Over a year passes between the tether opening and Dan going to the future. At first they had a chance to save their world, that's why they sent people to the future. Towards the end they realised they didn't have a chance to, so they defaulted to plan B - getting everything they can back to the past to save the other timeline and sending people to the future to safeguard their research facilities and make sure it gets there.
Its funny how people say "They BOTH move forward" Its only the future one which needs explaining" Off course the one in the present have to move or the Chris Pratt 1 hours later wouldnt be able to use it :D All they need to say is that regardless WHEN in time you are at the start it always jumps you the exact same time forwards.
Yeah, those guns seemed to have a super high rate of fire too... so they probably would have emptied the magazine in like 2 seconds. Most people don't seem to understand, our firearms are regulated by being humane to each other. If we're fighting alien monsters, we're gonna start using hollow point and air burst, to maim and dismember the many limbed creatures.
@@goldfishprime seriously they should have ran out of ammo at at most 30 rounds shot but they just kept firing someone who has never witnessed a guns functionallity made this movie
"YES!!" "I hate it when that happens!" I was fine with the movie up until then - had "suspension of disbelief" for time travel, was enjoying the movie, but then the aliens appear - everyone has magazines with a nearly infinite supply of ammo! This happens a LOT in movies and TV, but this was just laughable. (At least they didn't have the pistols make a metallic sound when they are raised, which ALWAYS happens on TV shows. Once again - "I hate it when that happens!"). AND ANOTHER THING with regards to guns and ammo. The soldiers that come back to 2022 KNOW that the aliens are only vulnerable in their throats and abdomens (and that they put their bullet resistant heads and bodies down to protect themselves). So why didn't they have the people armed with armor piercing bullets, and bullets of higher caliber instead of the mostly ineffective .223 or 5.56 that the people were issued? The were some other things that didn't make sense, but, overall - I really enjoyed the movie. I especially thought the accompanying orchestral music and overall sound effects were terrific. If you didn't watch it using quality headphones or speakers - you really missed out.
Plus the fireworks muzzle flash with all the sparks was super distracting. Also it had the trope of drawing a pistol after the 10,000 round mag runs out... Cos looks cool. If the main arm didn't work on the alien, WTF is a poxy side arm going to do?!
The staircase scene was the best part of this movie, they knew how to build tension, even though it was a generic ambush it still was able to make you fear for what’s next
Damn y'all missed so much, but I'll only say they explained the timeline is like a river and your on two boats attached to eachother by rope. You can only go back and forth. 🤦
It's not the only occasion where something they see as stupid or plotholey, is just something they missed or didn't understand lol.. I've seen the same patterns in multiple films/TV, unfortunately!
They really need to stop watching stuff together. I don’t know if they distract each other and talk through the movie but routinely I watch their reviews and they completely miss a plot point or explanation and then focus on it through the whole review as if it’s a plot hole. The three of them just form an echo chamber and repeat each others’ opinions and it’s irritating to watch. Why have 3 people to say the same thing?
These three are idiots. Some times they get some things right and some times they get some things wrong. Don't take them seriously please, on anything. Been watching for 8 years merely for the entertainment.
Joe, you’ve been great letting everyone talk. But I feel like you just need a small reminder of that :) OJ seemed like he had to talk over you at points to communicate what he would’ve been thinking about stuff at certain times. It’s not the biggest issue or happens too often, but as a fan I felt like leaving a comment just because I enjoy hearing the 3 of you talk and explain points of view. :) no hate
There was a reason it was soccer , they wanted the whole world to listen to what they were saying. It was the world cup finals( they even explained why it was taking place in the winter as normally wc takes place in the summer. It was because it was too hot in the host country. A nod to the climate change story line as well.
Well not really cuz of climate change, it's because in 2022 when the movie is set, the World Cup is going to be hosted by the country Qatar. Way too hot in summer so they moved it to Winter
Is not stupid that they weren't trained because they were supposed to deploy in 7 days so they were going to get trained but they had to do a emergency deployment , and they told them to go in a crouch stand because when you reach the future it was going to be a 5 to 10 foot drop to the ground
The plan was to train them for a week and send them. They ran out of time because the facility was under attack. The war was basically over and they were at the end of their rope. It's the same reason they weren't 100% equipped.
What's your point. Still a bad concept and wasn't well implemented, also I didn't see the point of having them warp to the wrong destination. It would have been fine to have them warp on the beach and just see a swarm of them, and then make it to the lab.
@@gravityfallscanada they weren’t going to get warped above skyscrapers. That happened because it messed up and put them that high. No one knows where they would’ve been warped. Also no it wouldn’t of been better if they warped and instantly saw the aliens.. They did a good job at showing the aliens when they were in the stairwell. It made them fighting the aliens even better since it was in a tighter area.
@@ramby4436 So you think it's a good way to write the story to make the main character just by chance land in the pool while he could have just fallen to his death in the first act and the movie would have been over? Wow, pathetic... 🤦🏼♂️
@@gravityfallscanada he wasn’t going to fall to his death. It’s a trick of the camera if you actually pay attention. It’s to make it seem like he was but never actually was. This isn’t the first movie to do something like this. Also why would they kill the actual main character off instantly?
@@ramby4436 That's what I'm complaining about you idiot. He only survived by chance... *That's bad story writing!* Don't get me wrong the movie was an entertaining watch, but that's about it, it's a one and done movie.
@@AngryJoeShow going through all the comments you replied too... Is that how you treat your fans? Like shit because of their opinions you don't like?? How you got so many subs is beyond me I find it disrespectful that you treat people this way. Every comment you're defensive and insulting the fans including swearing which tells me you're very sensitive... Just stop.
One plot hole I noticed. When they were getting ready to time jump, they said that recruits were really old probably bc they had to be dead in the future and not run into their future self. But the population of the future of only 500,000 so it felt like they could’ve recruited pretty much anybody
Also, how did they have that data? They literally had details on how people die. There's a database of that that remains running even after the aliens get the party started?
28:00 It was explained at the beginning that after a week of service, no matter where you are, you were going to be sent back to the past. Going to the chopper was just to put Chris Pratt out of danger in the air. But they were paying attention...
They missed one of the most stupid things about this movie: None of the world even ask what the enemy is while they're sending all these people to their death. At one point the future people say that they don't want to give information on the enemy as it would scare people to want to go fight.... 🤦♂️
Yea that part was dumb, any government would ask for proof and what not, also later in the movie thats the whole reason they dont want to send ppl to the glacier place because they needed proof
This movie is just a hodge-podge of Contagion, Alien, Starship Troopers, Edge of Tommorrow. It’s such a mess of a story, has decent action though. Also the World Cup is held during the summer, so whatever winter tournament they are watching is not a World Cup
You're 100% correct each scene is just different random scenes pulled from diffrent films to sell idea of movie . Which is we can have big issues but science can fix them so go to college and get a stem degree ... Which in itself isn't a horrible idea if this wasn't a garbage piece of propaganda that had no real plot and more plot holes than then any film I've seen in last decade .... would of stopped watching if wasn't with people and we weren't laughing 🤣
@@tomfullerful it's so much more than that it's everything . Literally every different scene has something trying to push that. Every one . This is literally the worst movie I've seen in 10 plus years. And again it's not that I'm against people getting stem degrees or think that's a bad idea it's the execution and the way it's done this is literally propaganda and I'm going to say that even if it is propaganda for something I believe. Which makes me sad because this movie and the budget they gave it actually had the potential to be good if the writer had the ability or drive to write better than most children... Sorry there are people that could have written a better script than this in one day
@@SMUGLORD it’s valid tho, it keeps the review in check with all the movie biases. Joe obviously enjoyed the film and Alex had to enlighten him with the all the things that made the film bad.
@@d.akasun oh yeah cause black widow was horrible but alex gave it a higher review when in all truth this movie was better but since it's not a marvel movie they didnt kiss its ass.
You can like something and still criticize it. I love "thirteen Ghosts", but I am able to see the flaws in it...and still keep liking it. Only Fanboys arent able to do that and immediately develop a "bite reflex" to everyone who dares to "attack their precious".
@@JoshTyrReece You can't criticize something that you don't fully understand. It is very obvious that they went into the movie without paying much attention to the details and information, thus making illogical conclusions. If you want to do a proper review, you must watch the movie at least twice to get the whole picture of it. Much of the 'plot holes' they mentioned were actually explained in detail in the movie, or they misinterpreted it, got it the wrong way. They rushed the review, and that is something they have been doing recently. At this point they favour quantity over quality, which is a shame.
@@JesoTV ikr I just came from watching it and literally one of the dumbest complaints they have about the clothes is answered in the scene. Like did we watch the same movie lol
The one thing that bothered me the most is the fact that J.K. Simmons knew the Whitespikes would go apeshit when they smell blood. It's literally how they kill the last one. And NOBODY gave him that information.
Haha I thought the exact same thing! They never had a scene explaining that to him. Just have to think they talked about it on the long plane ride to Russia. lol
This was the one thing I instantly thought of. Probably biggest plothole out of all the other things if you don't include plot holes just for the sake of progression.
@@uglymusubi507 that is kinda what I decided to be my headcanon. The moment he took the knife and started cutting his hand I was pretty much screaming at my screen: "How the heck did you know that!?" Just a short scene with Dan and his dad talking would have been enough, but, nope. He just knows.
@@lenfarag1999 I don't think you get it... if someone told you what was going to happen soon, would you continue keep doing what you're doing? If someone told you that you would be winning 50 million dollars from a lottery ticket you bought, are you still going to continue going to work doing whatever it is you're doing for the next few days?
@@0PTIC5 Ok, so by that logic, would it had been wise for him to gear up with weapons, run out on the street, and take on 100 white spikes head on, as if what she told him was some sort of get out of jail card? Knowing you survive doesn't grant you some sort of invincibility where anything you do will always lead to that eventuality. The eventuality arises ONLY because he will do what he would have done not knowing the future.
Also, that creates another question: How did she know he would make it through? Did she have knowledge of what would happen after he teleported back? If so, how?
@@lenfarag1999 He could’ve done whatever he wanted. Wether it be stealth or guns blazing. He doesn’t know what he did in the future because she never told him and that could be because she didn’t want to tell him or he never told her. “The eventuality arises ONLY because he will do what he would have done not knowing the future.” Thats the previous timeline. Him, now (in the future), is an alternate one that has more knowledge because of what his daughter told him, but that future they’re in didn’t change because they’re trying to change the future, not the past.
They don’t have to be in military garb because they are fighting Aliens so the differentiation of wearing military clothing is not important because it’s like shirts vs skins
Ok, but they should at least tell them to wearing clothes for running around. Charles was making fun of a dude with a chef's hat! They weren't giving people enough ammo or anything
@@Excalibur01 they weren't meant to help win the war. That future version of Earth was doomed, and the soldiers were there to stall until a vaccine could be made.
They said that they were supposed to leave a week later then they did ! And because of the way the time travel works they had to leave right on the spot
Yeah I think they’re missing the reason of why they were still dressed like civilians. They weren’t supposed to be leaving right then so they were still in their regular clothes. The script definitely had issues though but they missed that part as well as the squads part.
@@Ragemonster64 *Yeah I think they’re missing the reason of why they were still dressed like civilians. They weren’t supposed to be leaving right then so they were still in their regular clothes.* No man, sorry. One of the first thing that happens when you join the military is that you're issued uniforms. Notice that they showed them giving them helmets and other equipment but no uniforms. Come on.
@@Jaslath this isn’t normal enlistment though and it’s likely they hadn’t been given to them yet since they were supposed to head to training. They didn’t even leave with their helmets due to the emergency they left right away. I think they’re spot on with how ridiculous them showing up on a field and suddenly having random citizens comfortable with shooting guns and following in formation is but I still don’t see a problem with them leaving not in uniform. It seems more likely than dan not crushing that vial when he landed on top of it after traveling back in time.
@@Jaslath and they missed the explanation that the conscripts only got enough gear to get by. That's why the tech guy was confused about the chef being ok to go basically in his work uniform.
@@tehevilengineer7939 *That's why the tech guy was confused about the chef being ok to go basically in his work uniform.* If Dan's drafting was the norm that means that chef was given 24 hours to get his affairs in order and......he decides to come back in his chef uniform and hat. Someone make it make sense. Please.
Honestly, this was actually a pretty fun movie, despite the plot conveniences. Clearly the script could have used a few extra drafts of editing, but they did a decent job with the flawed premise. I really don't know if they'd have much to work with in a sequel, but the story was well contained.
There was an interesting story to tell, but wow, did they mess up the set up. I don't understand what the emergency deployment was about. So Pratt and friends got deployment ahead of schedule for some reason, what was their mission going to be? The command seemed caught off guard Miami was overrun and about to be bombed. Why were they bombing it again? Just seemed like handwave dialogue. "I can't call it off." Well, okay... bomb the city because... Everyone there is dead... why are you bombing it? Pretty sure the planet is infested already, what's one more city? Just so happened there was also a malfunction that dropped the people 2000 feet in the sky instead?
@@goldfishprime The emergency deployment’s only purpose was to kill off most of the people so Chris Pratt’s character could take command sooner. Everything you mentioned was just really bad writing, including this. It would have been much easier to understand if Pratt’s unit had landed safely and then gotten overwhelmed and the team commander was shown being killed, leading to Pratt taking command, but unfortunately the director (or higher) just wanted to jump right into the action without decent writing leading the scene.
@Bignuke87 Ahh yes, because it makes so much more sense to send in a bunch of untested random people and then bomb the people carrying the oh-so-important ampoules, instead of sending a highly trained team of people to accomplish this “extremely important” mission. Nice job in showing me that I didn’t pay attention at all in this movie.
Why didn’t they make the time machine go back to like the 90’s, so they would have at least 50 years to prepare or why didn’t they send scientists to collect samples in the first place and go back? Very entertaining movie, but the time travel logic and character decisions really sour the movie for the most part
its not hard to imagine that all the young instructors sent back in time that in an event if their stuck in the past, they'd have to kill them self before their birth day
They never did explain what this "paradox" effect would be, aside from there just being two versions of oneself walking around. Time Cop had a funny explanation for what happens.
Or just find your parents 10 months before your birthday and just be like "Hey guys can you hold off for a couple months so the universe doesn't explode and I don't have to kill myself?"
@bmhiscd1 That's the idea. The movie glosses over exactly how time travel functions, but it seems to be branching alternate realities, with the caveat that you cannot exist twice at the same time. Doesn't really make sense, but that's what the movie gives you. So, if you were stuck in the past, it would make the most sense to prevent your own upcoming birth in this reality.
this film was truly stupid. It made me want to rewatch edge of tomorrow. the calibre of the actors and the script is soo different, albeit edge of tomorrow had a manga to rely on.
Justification to some of the plot points they seem to have missed: 1. About the clothes, the comic relief guy points it out about him not being able to keep his cargo shorts but his graphic tee is fine while the future lady is talking, and he comments about missing what she said since we can't hear her while he is talking. 2. Training, time skips forward a bit after the whole recruitment pitch that shows some gun training. The civilian recruits could have potentially received some training during this. 3. Time paradox, time travel in this movie was never fully explained. It appeared they were only pulling people that died before the invasion to avoid any risk. But the end of the future section shows there are most likely 2 separate timelines. 4. The one thing that was explained about time travel is that due to the way the system works. Time moves forward at the same pace in the future as it does in the past. Hence we they don't send people to the start of the invasion. 5. The alien they fight away from the ship was the queen. The whole reason they had to go through the process of working on the toxin is because they had a toxin before that worked on all of the soldier aliens, but not the queen. Hence why they wanted to use it on her at the end to make sure she died. J.K. Simmons even comments "we should go after it before it lays an egg or something". 6. Blowing the ship, while blowing it up would most likely kill most of the aliens they run the risk of some surviving. So they went in to kill them with the toxin. My issue with this is why didn't they inject the queen, that was bigger and in the center of the room, first.
Aircraft need fuel. They can't hover over the battlefield forever. Looks like with such a sudden and massive alien outbreak, aircraft logistics could be disrupted. Plus the aliens could overwhelm the ground defenses of airbases. They overwhelmed the ground defenses of the lab base in the end.
I just love the staircase scene when there running and shooting and Charlie just keeps saying over and over again "S**T". I was dying of laughter so much because that would be me LUL.
It's hard for me to call this movie "stupid" when it seems somewhat self aware of the outrageousness of the situation and plot conveniences, hence the comic relief throughout.
Right, movie rule #1: If you crack a joke about your lazy, stupid script it makes it all okay. Many movies and videogames use this and I'm terryfied that anyone still fall for that. ;D *twinklesmiley, because if I add a smiley you can't be offended, right?*
@@zidahya Whether it's okay or not is up to the viewer. I am just saying that if someone does something they know is stupid for the sake of being stupid, it doesn't necessarily make them stupid or the work they create stupid. Some could say they are trying to be clever, funny, satirical. If it's something you can't appreciate, then it's not for you, and that's fine, but calling anything you don't agree with stupid without considering the intention, is just shortsighted. My interpretation is, this was supposed to be a fun campy movie not to be taken too seriously or even worth scrutinizing. I mean there's time travel... You know, something NOT real. (As far we know haha) You could absolutely take this movie apart on realism if you wanted, but you'd be wasting your time.
@N BD Consistency could fall under realism as well as believability and so on. I think you missed the point of the movie if you thought that wasn't intended. They were desperate so they started scraping the bottom of the barrel for anyone and everyone. They even mentioned that it wasn't about winning, it was about buying time. You think if they came from the future and was like.. "Oh we are just using you guys to buy time, you're completely expendable and we aren't going to actually win this war" that it would be good to convince anyone to go? They even say that if they showed them what the creatures looked like that it would be impossible to get anyone to go, so you know it's not above them to hide the truth for their own needs. As for what they were wearing, that was completely intended, and it was meant to be humorous and meant to depict desperation, which is why they even pointed it out in the movie. The script isn't dumb, it just wasn't a movie for you and that's fine. If you really want to point out something dumb, you could ask why they didn't do more to alter the future rather than fight a war in the future. But then we wouldn't have the movie they intended to make.
💯 % its toxic, I love the show and seen no less than 30 + full episodes, but the constant "one-upmanship" and talking over the little dude is not cool. Let him get his say! its a gentleman thing to do
They did get sorted into squads. Please watch the movie. Also Pratt's character was chosen not because he answered first but because he answered first and had prior experience + his daughter was the commander for them (not known at the time but surely you can work that out now).
I hate when they miss little details like that and then complain about those situations when they clearly would of gotten them if they paid attention, they do this a lot especially on good movies
Lol there were hundreds of people and they got sorted in D force or R force and nothing further was said. Were there unit leaders? Was chef guy the squad CO? There was zero structure until Pratt just assumed command and people followed him. You can't just plop down a hundred randos and expect them to work together without putting a chain of command in place.
@@tonyj9743 did you think perhaps that would’ve happened over the week they were supposed to train maybe? Also perhaps one may have been chosen but died when most of the squads died maybe.
@@tonyj9743 im guessing the bigger force was suppose to basically be bait or a distraction while the smaller force was made up of the guy with the claw around his neck(who was also their leader im pretty sure) and that was the actual squad that was suppose to retrieve or extract the whatever they went to gwt
“Stronger then a god damn elephant” I’m pretty sure that quote tickled me because I’m trying to picture an elephant dehydrating into one of those “cattle”.
Projectile weapons have been virtually unchanged for hundreds of years. An assault rifle works on the same basic concept as a Wild West remington from the 1800s....just faster
Time travel is just broken in any time time travel, it's like this, the future timeline, why would the people really care about sending people back in time when there own timeline is doomed and everyone dies, there basicly 2 different realitys and not the same, whenever time travelled is made it just creates another reality
My biggest thing is that they magically invented time travel within those 30 years, surely if technology was that advanced they could have developed a way to easily kills these aliens
@N BD the fact that harry potter did time travel better than this shit movie doesn't actually say anything about anyone other than the writers of the tomorrow war.
For the life of me, I just can't understand why the past is willing to physically go into the future to fight this war. Lets say your future self popped in your living room and says he needs your help to fight 50 guys with samurai swords because at some point in the future, your gonna take a trip to Japan, piss off the Yakuza, and end up with a price on your head. Would you say yes and go, or simply utilize the knowledge you now have and decide to never set foot in Japan and resolve this issue before it ever occurs?
Of why the future didn't just send all of their people back to the past to prepare for the invasion? Sending people to the future is actually the stupidest thing you could have done.
They would fight because if they win they will have access to a second universe. Do you not realize the sheer value a second earth is worth? Especially a earth that's mostly empty of other humans? The amount of utility of having a second universe is literally incalculable.
@@DwolfFW Okay, the greed of the govt aspect I could almost understand, except that on that second earth 99% of the population has been wiped out and the planet is covered with aliens, rendering all resources unobtainable.
@@tonyj9743 You're not making sense. Yes, the resources are useless with the aliens there. That's why you have a incentive to fight them to obtain those resources. Also with 99% of the human population gone that means that you will have access to a vast amount of resources and damaged infrastructure with no competition from pervious occupants. The prospect of just having double the space is enough to make it worth it.
Drove me nuts, why the F if they brought enough C4 to destroy the whole ship did they even bother with the green goop? All of them could have survived.
The reason this worked for me is because of horizon zero dawn. It reminded me of that operation where they would just send civilians to hold off the threat to give them time to create the solution. In here they were just creating time to create the way to kill the monsters. The daughter even said it at the end how they had no chance, they were just trying to save the past.
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I find it hilarious that the film starts with "Every nation on Earth immediately put aside their differences to send their soldiers and civilians to certain death in an unwinnable war against aliens," but then the film ends with "what? The nations of the world couldn't possibly work together to fight an impending alien threat."
its dumb but they explained it a bit because everyone was onboard for a while with the future people giving them weekly intel. Then when the time link was broken because we lost they fell into chaos because at that point everyone knows it's all over, just a matter of time. That would make sense in that moment. Sure eventually the world would nut up and militarize even harder but on that day or two right after news broke it would be madness for a bit. As for not investigating a lead for the guy that brought back the key to humanity, that one was hard to believe. Someone would start barking up that tree somewhere in the coalition, especially since at that time that would be the only shred of intel that breeds hope.
I think that's a plausible analysis because humanity would 100% band together against a immediate extinction level threat against humanity, but once you say hey we've found thier exact location and we have the advantage. Now there's time to monopolize the creatures, do unorthodox experimenting on the creatures, secretly do this and that with the creatures. Governments are not to be trusted with type of information.
@@AverageGamerXP yea they should have gone to social media with the info
@@coldchillin8382 Because when it comes to saving Earth, a bunch of angry kids is more capable than the governments and their militarys.
Totally In line with movie logic.
The point was it would take too long and also they tried and were shot down. It’s a realistic stance.
I am glad they were able to narrow it down to "north Russia" would have been a nightmare to find in a big country.
lmao true true
Dude. Just snow mobile around for a few hours & when the compass goes haywire that's where the spaceship is. What's the fucking problem?
Lol 😂
@@alwaysdisputin9930 North Russia is huge swath of territory that’s the problem
@@williamerazo3921 Yeah but the volcano guy.
The way I remember it, they don't have much time with the time bridge they created. They move in time at the same pace. Basically once they landed the time kept going forward in both present and future. Meaning they still were on borrowed time until the aliens destroy the time machine.
Now, why didn't they send researchers, samples and data to give earth 30 years to get ready is a good question.
why don't they sacrifice the future for a new future? That's like getting a second chance, if fail, go back again to another past, and create new future again, infinite 30 years.
That was one of my biggest problems with it. Ok you are developing your toxin in some shitty bunker...why the f*** dont you send it to the past with thousands fully functional research centers and all the still living experts. If a friggin science teacher can do it, then the biggest and brightest geniuses of the world would solve the problem in minutes. Nope...let us hide our plan until the very last second, even knowing for some time that there is no hope anymore in winning the war...because of "reasons".
They had just captured the queen alien in the future to get the necessary samples to send it back.
@@pcbatl bunch of somali poachers wont have taken that long to capture the queen
Ketothev, this was my understanding as well. It was like two boats on the same river headed towards a waterfall. Even though one boat is miles behind the other, they're still moving down the river at the same pace, and the goal was to bring people from the rear boat to the fore boat to help steer it away from the waterfall.
They really did do three movies in one lmaoo
@Cruzn2Space what are you talking about 😂😂 seems like your the annoying one complaining for anything
@@musicbooksexplained Congrats
This just reminds me of Hancock where they could have made more than one movie from it.
"Colonel, we're gonna start the bombing."
"These bombs are gonna drop in 6 minutes and there's nothing I can do about it."
Uhhh, tell that guy to delay them. Why do you need to bomb the city at that exact time?
"There's 12 of them."
*Grabs 15* "Got em!"
"We're 800m out, we'll be there in 30 seconds"
Mate you're in an F fucking 22. You passed us 4 minutes ago.
@@ISavant An F22 is an odd pick for AGS. A squad of A-10s could've made a few passes with their main guns to keep casualties to a minimum, in addition to a larger payload of bombs to wipe out a larger number of aliens.
@@psbox362 careful nobody is allowed to point out how fucking dumb the people who made this movie were
Have you seen other Amazon offerings as of late? My subscription expires in a few days, will not be giving them any more money for other reasons too.
@@ISavant From school , 60 mph is 1 mile per minute. If I recall, a mile is 1760 yards so they are roughly going 60 mph. Ok.
Btw, Pratt taking command after dropping in with a bunch of noobs with him having military experience is common, literally what many vets would do these days. Also, the randos with no experience pointing their weapons up and at people randomly is totally believable. Just giving you some of my experience from Afghanistan.
Also the fact that the daughter was the leader and knows who he is lol
You fought giant non humanoid aliens that rip apart humans in Afghanistan and weren't shocked in any kind of of way...tell me more about that bullshit you dream of.
@@JoshTyrReece He's comparing the fact that inexperienced people forced to fight often make mistakes like pointing weapons at people randomly...not the fact that they fought aliens you dense expired burger
Facts, the reason why Sargents are allow to knock the hell out of you in field if your not point "down range" lol
@@Mukatutu 😂 damn!
The aliens looked terrifying. I was surprised by how much they looked like a cockroach from hell.
looks a bit inspired by starcraft, esp hydralisk with their ability to shoot spikes.
Also they were inspired from Mass Effect Rachni specie's.
@@3dfreak2000 Dead Space
They look like Vorcha from Mass Effect crossed with the baby necromorphs in Dead Space.
@Dariusz Kanak What? Take the Vorcha and contort them a bit so that they walk on all fours, then give them the spike-shooting tentacles from the necromorph babies and boom, you got the aliens from this movie.
I didn't design the monsters, I'm just describing what they look like.
Take a shot every time Alex says “stupid”
Liver.exe has expired.
i loved this movie, its genuinely a fun film and alex is again overly harsh for no reason. 8/10 easy
@@redleather420 Me and my sister watched it yesterday and was blown away at how incredibly stupid it all was. They claim that it's hard to kill the monsters at first, just to show us how they quite literally kill them super easy, they say that the scientists of the future didn't find their origin even tho any scientist worth their salt would be able to figure out what they themselves figured out, Chris goes on and on about how he won't leave hes daughter and wants to save her but that doesn't make any god damn sense, it's the most stupid moment in the movie since she won't even exist since that timeline does not exist at all, it was just a source of cringe every time he said he wouldn't leave her and he would save her yada yada crap plothole, there are a lot more that made this a garbage movie but those were the biggest irks for me and my sister, usually with these kind of movies you just turn of your brain and enjoy it, but they ACTUALLY gave such dumb explanations for everything that we just couldn't brush it off as you usually do with dumb action like the Rambo movies, not like you gonna critique Rambo movies based on the science it has if any, and that's the point: Tomorrow War TRIES to explain the plot, but ends up creating plotholes that are incredibly stupid.
@@redleather420 yeah, it’s a good movie. One of those that is entertaining but your not supposed to think too deeply about the time contradictions. It’s a sci fi action flick and I liked the father son, father daughter relationship. And surprisingly, a black dude survived by the end.
Some people seem to be expecting some deep movie which must make sense with no plot holes. It’s quite clear what the movie is, and it succeeds at what it attempts to do.
This was something he used to do quite a lot during reviews a while back, "dumb writing", "stupid" etc.
It's back! 😂
Don't get me wrong, I like Alex, I like all of them and enjoy the content, but that shits tired lol..
I'll just assume it's his way of dancing around spoilers
This movie still has less plot holes than rise of skywalker, haha.
True dat.
Thats a very very sad truth.
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I hope that Joe would review grand tactician the civil war(1861-1865).
Nailed it.
One of my favorite parts is how they kept talking about the alien's spaceship's this and the alien's spaceship that... Then when they finally find it there's this big reveal that they were just cargo and some other species was piloting the spacecraft!! Really!? That comes as a shock?! Do those aliens look like they're capable of building and piloting an interstellar spacecraft?!
Agreed. I believe these were nods to ALIEN and ALIENS (i.e. discovering the Space Jockey, and "How could they cut the power? They're *animals*!").
The best part was the time machine glitching and half the recruits falling to their deaths after they're teleported to the future.
White Spikes doesnt look as they would use even hammer or umbrella, they are just animals. I dont like alien spaceship stuff. Movie could end in 96 minutes and ending would be glorious - future is lost, present is save stuff. Alien hunting was well made, but i prefer "hell strange milion years old specie from below earth, respinsible for extinction events etc". They should make ending with more lairs, and information about many more ancient underground species, this would be cool.
Omg. everyone in this part of the comments attention deficit. The aliens they fight arent the same aliens that piloted the ship. Theres a brief scene where you see one hanging and its basically built like a human. They speculated that the aliens were carrying cargo to probably colonize or who knows what, but since there werent reports of any more aliens they concluded that probably earth wasnt their destination.
But the monsters we see are probably creations.
@@Havibox21 dude.. maybe you should read the comments again ;)
One thing I loved at the staircase scene is how when the creatures took sufficient damage they would swap out with a fresh one
Yup plus I loved the way they shielded themselves then lashed out right after the shooting stopped
It really shows some very intelligent (or vivid) creatures, not some another mindless alien. Feel real to me like they really exist.
@@gn019202492000 Thats acutaly an interesting question, that the film didn't awnser. How intelligent are these creatures? The female was able to "scent" the daugther and follow her later in the battle. The males had some kind of military hierachy (the one who was standing on the car and barking at the rest (and no one was shooting him)). But on the other hand, most of the time the behaved like animals and not realy smart ones. I would love to know more about that, especially if they are some kind of bio-weapon.
@@zidahya It did seem very plot dependent. The first out focus spotting of them, the creatures took out that squad with precision and stealth(almost thought it was like some psychic attack). The later seem to be stealthfully creeping up on Pratt's squad. But after that, they are just mindless monsters. Only using their projectile attack occasionally(We know they can rapidly fire it, as seen by the rows of them on the lab walls). The queen, red female, is sentient to know she had a toxin injected into her arm and self amputated it, but didn't know to just bite the rope that was binding her.
@goldfishprime does that not come down to risk assessment. The cable at the time wasn’t a huge threat but the toxin attacking the dna was lethal. Also the queen has an immediate response to seeing the toxin being identified and alerts the males to attack. The aliens show a lot of intelligence, flanking, taking cover, playing dead, tail movements to distract etc.
"Who likes soccer?"... about 4 billion people.
Yes, but it’s doubtful that a WHOLE ROOM of Americans would be watching it at a party. Plus, the future soldiers come in to whatever country the game
Was being played in and start speaking in English? What? No one in the future is left who speaks Spanish? Yeah, convince me of that.
I know hundreds of ppl who only watch the world series nba finals the stanley cup and superbowl who dont give a shit about sports or the rules who ALSO watch the world cup so idk what they are talking about americans do watch soccer.
@@kimberlyrobinson3992 Is was the world championship in Qatar, which honestly I find rather difficult to use in a movie with all the real world scandals about it.
@@AmirChemE "Americans know how to play soccer, they just don't know how to watch. "
North Americans dont. South Americans however absolutely do.
Theres a reason why World Cup is as big of an event or even bigger than the Olympics.
Even the UEFA Champions League is watched around the world.
As a free-to-watch for prime members at least, I thought the movie was entertaining enough and worked as a no brainer popcorn flick, but it also is another example of how movies from the 80s were better than what we get these days when I compare this to Aliens.
@@morphingtime2000 Exactly, when these movies are free I have no issue watching ads before and after the film.
I like 90's movies better but both 80's and 90's movies can become iconic and memorable while movies in the past 10 to 15 years or so are just crap. All we have now are remakes, plot holes action movies and marvel movies
@@epicwolf truth.. we basically have holes with plots... as an "intellectual" movie watcher it just fries my brain...
Don't forget The Thing
While I did personally enjoy this movie, it was mainly because I was laughing at how illogical much of it was.
I enjoy a good monkie brain movie, but I remember movies that respect the audience, the setting, and follow some basic logic.
My favorite part was when they did the whole "I know a guy" thing literally _four times in a row_ at the start of the third act.
For the record, they were put into squads. They gave them squads marks displayed on the wrist gear.
yet they stayed as one squad instead of 2 XD
@@aligmal5031 I mean, they had to, there were like 12 of them alive because everybody else fucking died falling 200 ft up or hit a building on the way down to the rift
I knew it, there _is_ some plot around these holes!
Yea I don't understand what these guys don't get.. they clearly stated that ok you're in the R team. And the black guy was R team too and the one behind them.. and they sent the R team in one location. They're all the R together there. And main hero has military experience so he took control. It's basic thing.. not hard to understand
You guys really weren’t paying attention. They explained how time travel works in this movie. It’s not like a TARDIS where they can go anywhere in time. You make a bridge from one point to the destination time. Time doesn’t stand still, so once that bridge is established, that bridge is moving forward in time. Everything is happening in real time.
Edit 7/3/21 - I was high as hell when I watched this, so I was focused on, EVERY, minuscule detail lol.
It's always "plotholes" when they just didn't hear or understand something 😂
It's all subjective anyway man! If you enjoyed it, that's all that matters
Yeah I think these guy's are constantly on their phones and miss a bunch of plot points and then deem everything stupid and doesn't make any dam sense
Lol yeah these guys are awesome but they miss and dont get SO MUCH in the movies they review🤣
@@nx1379 agreed man! I enjoy the content, even the live streams they do..
But it does get a little frustrating when a film drums a concept into the audiences head, and they still somehow miss it and go on to label it a plothole 😂
Yeah, the two points were moving forward themselves.
The future soldiers, should have gave them Rubber band handle- grenade belts, so when the aliens inevitable devour them. The aliens digestive juices would dissolve the rubber band and explode the belts.
Now there's some serious endgame tactics.
i don't think they had time and resources to design and manufacture new types of gear, they didn't even gave them body armor
@@tzviru from the moment in the world cup to the moment chris pratt goes to the future, 11 months have passed, a new grenade is totally possible. The bad thing here is that everyone in charge is completely stupid, instead of jumping tanks they jump people
Except you would have to go through the ethics board of committee to not get it listed as inhumane.
yeah, their bad or rather unsuitable gear really was a plothole. I mean the movie even shows that normal assault rifles basically do nothing against the aliens unless the untrained militia guys somehow manage to hit a specific weakpoint but in other scenes the movie shows that 50 cal rifles are very effective and rip the aliens apart no matter where they hit them. Makes you wonder why they didn't send everyone with high caliber rifles in the first place.
Realistically those aliens shouldn't even have gotten anywhere near as far as they did since they are unable to fly and some advanced gunships from 20 years in the future with drone support could take all the time they need to shoot them from a safe distance.
Just finished watching this literally seconds ago, actually really enjoyed it, 10 times better than Fast Nine
I liked it as well. Not the best or worst but entertaining for what it was. Better than that Army of the Dead movie on Netflix.
Agree
@@warpy33 agree. 😂
Same...thought it waa good
Ditto.
My first thought when i saw the trailer for this movie was: why are they sending people from the past to fight in the future? Why not just go to the past say "aliens are going to invade on X day you have until then to prep tech and train soldiers. Also here's everything we know about the aliens" that would have actually been smart
because the idiots who wrote this movie don't understand exactly what the point of time travel in a story is.
@SP That's kind of how I would re-write the whole time travel thing. This would be a different timeline scenario where they can travel to the past, but the timelines split and whatever happens in the past won't change their future.
So the time travelers will come back in time and say... "Guys, listen, in 30 years an alien force will invade Earth. We're loosing the war and need troops. In exchange for you giving us an army, we will give you everything we know about the aliens so that you can better prepare and maybe prevent the invasion."
@@blanktom6049 the mcu time travel logic messed with people so k.i.s.s.
@@caliginousmoira8565 then you shouldn't put time travel in your movie.
@SP Exactly. And since the future people can travel through time, why can't they just abandon their timeline and live in the past and help them destroy the aliens with all their knowledge? They're not that many people so the old timeline have room for them.
The lack of training reminded me of a scene from Futurama where they go to war with those bouncing balls. Before they're deployed Nixon goes "This is the moment we've been training for all afternoon!" and then Zapp goes "The best strategy is the element of surprise.... SURPRISE!" and then just dumps the soldiers onto the planet. That's literally how they trained their soldiers in this movie
These actually a scene that explains the way their type of time travel works, and also why there's "no time" when they're rushed into the future
I thought that him seeing his daughter die was the cause of the loop that would make him leave his family because of how traumatized he was. Cause him leaving in the original timeline seemed outta right field so it would’ve been crazy for it to be one of those time travel loop things but I guess it was just because he couldn’t get a job.
I thought the same.
The time travel is a little tricky. Maybe the fact that his daughter revealed his future changed the timeline. In other words, there exists a timeline where our hero returned, failed, and basically gave up on life. But after his daughter revealed his future, he redeemed himself, forgave his father, etc. and started on a better timeline. He basically was given a "second chance."
@@ce1474 that wouldn't make sense. Because of the mere fact the future people came back in time.
See they try to say this is a single time line universe. But if that was the case, Chris pratt and crew already stopped the war, thus having no reason to send people back in time.
The time travel in this movie makes zero sense.
@@MilkT0ast Yeah, the only way it'd make sense to me is if there are at least two separate timelines. This is why the people from the future are able to still exist when they are basically changing time.
Yeah him leaving his family was because of him not getting the job and getting depressed about his life - I think the idea was that in her past no future humans had arrived, etc, etc. But yeah, time travel never makes sense in movies, as you would end up in an endless loop.
maybe because those main characters stand next to each other, that's why they landed on the same pool?
To be fair Chris Pratt's character almost hit the side of said pool🤷
@@projectrain2254 he did a double jump at the last second
Surface tension ain't a thing in the future guess.
Any movie exists:
Alex: “This is terrible writing”
It's cause Hollywood never really recovered after the writers guild strike 😂.
Um this movie was the definition of stupid. I’ll admit entertaining But Very stupid and corny/trope heavy.
I find myself agreeing with Alex a lot. The man just wants a story to follow the rules they set up. Why create the dialogue/exposition to not follow it. I think that’s what divides the truly brilliant stories from the good ones.
Yea I really try hard to enjoy movies and fill in the plot holes with “what if’s”, but the writing nowadays is just so garbage it’s tough.
"Stop using braine, just CONSOOM"
Makes wanna ask him what he has written lately. He puts me off so bad is hard to watch Joe's reviews any more. I think he is rubbing of on main Joe. Other joe still has a mind of his own.
There were actually 15 vials instead of 12 in the Extraction scene, 3 rows of 5
I thought the same thing when I saw it!
It's clear that they didn't pay attention at all. They were scheduled for a week of training, but when the creatures attacked the research facility they needed to be scrambled ASAP into the portal, basically moving up their teleport drop by a week. I went into this film with below expectations, but I was pleasantly surprised by how entertaining it was.
Yes exactly 💯
and they were divided into squads
It was also why they were dressed as they were.
Weird maybe it was you that didn't pay attention?
When they arrived first is the part that shows the cook outfit. Not after the emergency alert that had them scramble. Remember this is the past that has plenty of resources to equip them to fight a future war for humanity's surivial. They could have been issued proper gear at that time, as some were some were, not really sure why you'd defend a stupid plot point just because you like the rest of the film, especially when I like it too.
Also I like how you use one example to prove we didn't pay attention at all but ignore the 17 other points we brought up. Maybe you didn't pay attention to our entire video and therefore are being hypocritical? In summary you were wrong. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
That doesn’t explain why they decided to send through barely trained civilians with guns into a war zone. Most of them didn’t even have uniforms. What that should have had at the ‘past’ time-gate was ready trained and assembled elite rapid response teams comprised of Special Forces. We know not all of them were killed in the first wave. If for some reason these guys are all dead, then you have conscripted civilians who use to be soldiers waiting to be deployed for just such an emergency. I loved this film, but sending untrained civies who don’t even know how to load their guns just makes them liabilities to those assets you already have in the field.
A super dumb Starship Troopers/ Edge of Tomorrow with fun action? *Count me in!*
Yeah, so much stupid happens you almost feel offended XD
There is literally no way to avoid a paradox in time travel movies, every last one of them have this issue
Interstellar has the biggest one that everyone seems to ignore
Maybe there was a scriptdocter but he got slapped in the face everytime he sugested something
@Aaron Foltz ha
The base should have definitely been protected with the solution that worked on the males.
true, but they were running short of resources. So that could be an explanation
Running out of everything. 3 years to wipe out humanity
The mines and helicopters would have been enough if the female wasn't summoning a massive army to the base.
@@Tnecks except they had the resources of the entire world of 2022 at their disposal.
You can not say that they had plenty of time because they were in the past. That is not how time travel works in this film, which they explain. Time keeps flowing. Thursday in the past is still Thursday in the future, but exactly 28 years later. If they wait an extra day in the past, an extra day passes in the future. The longer they take in the past, the longer it takes them to arrive in the future. I think they didn't get uniforms though because they were out of resources. The future has no resources left and the past has sent so many millions of people into the war that there just aren't any more uniforms to give out. Plus the military knows those people are going to die so why bother wasting resources on them beyond the bare essentials like a rifle and a side arm. Even their guns were crappy. Assuming all the good weapons got sent in early and they have whatever is still left.
Except in the movie they say they've sent thousands, not millions.
@@filmonewaldeabsebhat Pretty sure it was tens of millions in the US alone though.
They said thousands, but im certain that was an error in script writing.
As in the plot they made it very clear pretty much everyone knew someone that has been drafted.
Statistically that would only make sense with like 20-30 million drafts for the US, so thats around the number it was prob meant to be.
Just as an additional verification they also said all military personal (from past) was already used up, thats hundrets of thousands of people for the US alone.
And in the movie they say the civilian drafting has much higher numbers then the military personal was before that, so according to that alone it has to be *at least* a couple million in civilians (from the US alone).
Time is theoretical, we don't even know if it exists. Time is an invention that tells us how long the earth rotates around the sun. Yet the crew talks like it is supposed to function this way or that way. Does it branch, does it reset, does it not matter, does it matter, does it flow? No one knows but their hubris is annoying after ten minutes.
I see the no uniform part as simply being what is the point. It's not like the camouflage even works on the aliens. Also it's an immediate indicator that these are civilian soldiers so the full on soldiers can make decisions based on perceived skill.
We can calculate it. It’s 1000 people every 7 days and it’s been 2 years since the first event. So it’s only 1000 x 104 weeks. They have only sent 104000 troops from the worldwide draft. With a 20% survival rate. It’s peanuts really.
With the way they train, equip, and recruit their conscripts, it's no wonder the survival rate is less than 30%
I doubt Navy Seals would fare better. They couldn't even defeat kids in Yemen!
1. they explain they were supposed to have a week to train but didnt even have a day. 2. they explain the queen not being able to be tranqd, they said " shes feeling it but not going down" and they explain how much she needed chris pratt was surprised at the amount in a day and then she clarifies its for an hour not a day. 3. chris was chosen because his COMMAND experience. 4. the queen is shown to have intelligence. 5. they explained they did go to where the attacks started but there wasnt a ship there. 6. in all honesty it didnt feel like they were trying to win the war, she makes a comment that they are living on borrowed time. the past soldiers are meant to buy time. 7. they give the vials to the people from the future. (which you realized later)
the problem isn’t that they dont explain these points, its that they contradict them soon after they make them. For example, they say they’re giving them a week to train (for whatever reason), they dont get it because they need help to get these vital assets. Then they introduce this idea that the transfer was messed up and dropped them in the wrong place (because whatever), and introduces their mission that makes or breaks the war, but IMMEDIATELY introduce an airstrike to blow all that vital information away. Forester is introduced as being in command, so then who ordered that airstrike that she cant stop? Why would that airstrike take priority over the war-ending resources? Even how they drafted people, and why people go back and forth are only implied explanations, and are contradicted soon after they explain them.
He was chosen because he's her father
Very well put. That's some great explanations to those who don't get it like AJ and Co.
@@rui5421 True, the contradictions are what made this movie a 7/10, could of been a 9/10 ez.
@@MrOnetedify that’s really the worst of it. It’s frustratingly inconsistent, but looks great most of the time. It’s a rare time where I feel like character development was their problem. They had great character ideas, and ruined them with inconsistent situations to push the characters forward.
The first reveal of the alien looked so dope
This movie was great at creating tension
@@swampThaang There was literally 0 tension the entire film.
I was waiting for it to start barking
It had me shaking
Yeah it was good, this whole movie is really good people are just Sheeple and wanna hard cuz they were told to be political reviews
My biggest gripe with this film is the lack of any explanation of not using nuclear weapons on places not inhabited anymore. Also, how do you lose against an enemy with no air superiority?
Using nuclear weapons kills the planet for decades and causing a nuclear winter at that level. And everyone would just die of cancer so no that doesn’t make sense.
And the creatures are also air borne and are legions and caught them by surprise . Technical superiority will not guarantee a victory in wars .
They caught them off guard with large numbers and had air water and land abilities . That would give anyone a head start
So Chris Pratt stabs the queen with her own spike and it easily penetrates her armor. My question was why haven't the future soldiers either gathered up the billions of spikes stuck into everything around the planet and crafted them into bullets OR studied a spike and fabricate synthetic material exactly like it which is again made into bullets?
A shutout to American industrial sector 😂 its literally like hey, we got vaccine, how fast can we mass produce it?
No it didnt penetrate her armor. He used it at places where she didnt have armor.
@@benlunch7618 no, during the hivebuster scene when they are trying to capture her, he drops down from the helicopter to save Miri and during the fight he picks up one of her spikes and stabs her in the side in order to get the queen off of Miri. It went right through the armor no problem.
@@benlunch7618 yea the design was really cool. Reminded me of the creatures from A Quiet Place but they are actually more lethal and harder to hide from.
@@benlunch7618 okay, so Chris made the queen shoot herself with a spike, in her side, which is armored, so my logic and question is still valid. The creatures spikes can penetrate their own armor, so the humans should have been harvesting them and making bullets out of them
I get what they boys are talking about when it comes to just going back to the past and even if he's daughter dies in the future as long as you save her in the past she'll be fine but as a father of 2 boys seeing your kids die before your eyes is the worst thing life can throw at you a parent
As a parent of a teenager daughter who died last year, I can confirm, it feels like nobody should ever smile again.
@@WIDGI I’m so sorry for your loss, hope you’ve found some comfort and joy since then and that even more is coming your way:)
@@titusshaver6983 thank you. No joy yet but I have found comfort in the knowledge that her suffering has ended.
Bruh my little bro passed in the hands of our ma and I can still see the pain in her 11 years later. The death of a child is literally the end of a world for a parent. I hope if I’m blessed that I never witness that.
@@WIDGI so sorry to hear that
“This setup is so unrealistic”
WW2 Soviet Union: “Hey conscript, the front line is that way, find a weapon when you get there. Try not to die. Good luck comrade!”
Unrealistic....time travel , aliens and football match played on christmas day !!..
@@tinkabeast3491 the most unrealistic part is upperclass American white people watching soccer in cookie cutter suburbia.
@@BilionaireBoysSwag i was with you up until " soccer "...it will and always has been Football :)
@@tinkabeast3491 futbol
@@tinkabeast3491 Thank you. The only true football is the one you kick the ball with your foot!!
Half expected Dom to appear in a muscle car and give a ted talk about family, in the end 😅
Just Finished watching, 1 more question on top of all : Are grenades, Bazooka, AP and explosive rounds prohibited in future ? :)
Dude exactly no heavy weapons anywhere. artillery, 30 ml cannons, armor piercing rounds nothing.
Right! 30 years in the future and they send them with p90's. Have fun against badass aliens guys! Here's your pea shooters!
Running out of ammo idiots. Ever tried evacuating ALL of Eurasia's people and ammo in UNDER A FUCKING YEAR!
OUT OF EVERYTHING!!!
I know, I was expecting at least a single 40mm
But nope, they all used m4s, with 7 inch barrels with an acog...why? Oh and lol they had reflexes on a 45° cant...but not a single person used it.
And the stock and forgrip...disgusting.
@@MilkT0ast
They already used up all their expensive gear
Who watches soccer? Around the world probably way more people than those that watch American Football.
Most Americans are oblivious to other things more popular in the world outside of their country.
Because patriotism, the whole America is best mentality fuck the rest of the world
@@jhamer18 There are some hardcore Americans that think USA number 1. Yes, clearly USA is number 1 in some areas, but not in ares they would like.
The thing that bugs me is that nothing changed in the present. They destroyed the threat, yet people still knew about the war. The same war that supposedly was prevented from happening. Never mind that they couldn't have known to do anything about it had the war not happened. The war had to happen in order for it to not happen. The whole scenario is impossible.
Just another timey wimey loopty poopty paradox 😵💫🥴
WTF are u talking about?They killed the alliens a week after they were recruited.
@I - Rout She doesn't because it didn't happen in her timeline.
They did explain at Mach 5
90% of the military was gone, the worm holes move in parallel so one day in the future is one day in the past and they got thrown in fast to save the lab before what they called sabbath
But it was explained super fast
They clearly didn’t take any notes. It’s more like they watched it then decided to do a review. This was the last straw…. So many better reviews that actually paid attention to the flick.
@@GetAlong2GetAlong bruh you are just trying to defend a terrible movie. They touched damn near every plot hole in this movie. Just because they didnt like the movie as much as you did doesnt mean their review is bad.
@@GetAlong2GetAlong stupid plot armor to gloss over idiotic plot points doesn't mean the movie made sense. it means the writers are dumb.
There were plenty of bad character decisions and cliché plot points, but the logic of the film holds up for the most part. If you think of it as two parallel universes that are trading personnel and resources, there isn’t necessarily a paradox. The only piece that doesn’t work is that the young soldiers that got trapped in the past now will exist in the same universe as themselves as babies. The explanation of the wormholes as evenly spaced rafts on a river was spot on. And even little things make sense, like why Pratt was put in charge right away when he first answered the comm. It was his daughter on the other end, so she already knew about his military experience and leadership qualities. Again, there was plenty of silliness in this film, but I think it was pretty logically consistent for the most part.
Pratt’s priorities were out of whack in this film, though.
Loved the extreme saw blade kill at the end since Army of Dead teased us and never delivered.
I feel like they should have just ended the movie when the kid gives him the welcome home sign.
They really need to stop watching stuff together. I don’t know if they distract each other and talk through the movie but routinely I watch their reviews and they completely miss a plot point or explanation and then focus on it through the whole review as if it’s a plot hole.
The three of them just form an echo chamber and repeat each others’ opinions and it’s irritating to watch. Why have 3 people to say the same thing?
Joe cant even let Alex or OJ finish what they're saying during a review, you think he's gonna keep his mouth closed during a movie?
That is not true. AJ tends to be more positive on movies and give leeway, Alex tends to be more negative and critical on movies, OJ tends to be more balanced and have the casual point of view. If you watched more than one review you would see this is the reason they have 3 people and why this review channel works.
B I’ve been watching Angry Joe since about 2009. Found him through Channel Awesome.
@@BilionaireBoysSwag These guys are just wannabe critics. They hardly understand anything and are just really dumb. Alex is the dumbest of all thinking being harsh for no reason is being a good critic lol.
None of this is True. Amazing. What disgusts me is how'd you'd act like this over this film and we both ultimately liked. Ignoring it has stupid moments because you think we missed something that was explained (but still stupid). If it's explained it can't be stupid right? And yeah we totally always have the same opinions on every film we watch. Just admit you wanted me to come out here and be like 10/10 film. No plot holes, no stupid moments, like ingoring the most important mission for humanity to go back for untrained bearded dude ment for cannon fodder while jets drop Bombs directly on us cuz uhm he's kind?, perfect film.
I thought that they were going to go back in time and try to mass produce the solution and accidentally create the aliens in like a failed lab experiment creating the time loop.
but its not a time loop
That was basically implied by the end when they found the space ship. They were thinking about contacting the UN and other nations to handle it, but they were afraid of exactly that: them doing nothing or using the aliens as weapons, thus creating the future they were trying to stop
@@SY-qg6qn yup, i can see you're someone who can see 2 to 3 steps ahead good sir
Thats what I thought...not a time loop..but paradox
It turns out the real weapons were the friends we made along the way.
One thing I really liked was when the queen was hit with the first dose of toxin she bit her limb off to stop it. I hadn’t seen something like that before.
Despite the sheer ridiculousness of this movie, it was still fun to watch.
I actually thought the twist was the future humans were just using past people who were destined to die as food for the aliens to appease them and it's not about fighting them
That's matrix level badness. There are so much more efficient things to do. Like... grow potatoes. or eat bugs. lol
@@andrethegiant6969 I mean, do these alien monsters look like vegetarians?
When I saw the trailer, I was imagine the future alien were as smart as the alien in the edge of tomorrow that they gave human time travel tech so they can kill the grandfather of human to kill human faster
That would have made more sense plot wise.
I hoped for some kind of twist, because it felt so stupid and unlogical to me what they were doing...but nope...that was really happening. 🙄
Alex doesn't understand the way they handled time in the movie. One week in the future is the same as one week in the past. They both move forward at the same rate. That's why they rushed the Civies into the future with limited/no preparation or time to gear up fully, because their facility that held the McGuffin was under attack. Preventing the attack in the past also does nothing to prevent it in the future timeline. That is why they are all prepared to die to make sure it gets back to the past, because they know they are fucked and they want to at least save the other timeline. They knew they couldn't mass produce enough toxin to save the last 500,000 people in time.
That is understandable what you are saying and i agree with you that the Multi-Universe theory would be better fit for this movie , but the paradox thing was mentioned in the movie by Dan and the Talkative guy as a theory. Basically Dan noticed that all the people being recruited where a certain age and all the Soldiers from the Future where very young, they theorized that they did that cause of a paradox( cant meet yourself or something like that), even thought the movie established a different timeline eventually.
@@MrOnetedify Yeah but the script writer put the theory in for a reason. Just like everything else they put at the start of the movie was there for a reason, from the volcano kid, to the dad having a plane, to the daughter reading a science book, etc.
the moment they opened a tether in the past during the World cup they would have altered the future..If they planned on dying off in the future anyway they should have sent back Intel to preserved life, instead they brought people from the past to be slaughtered.
@@Booneface Over a year passes between the tether opening and Dan going to the future. At first they had a chance to save their world, that's why they sent people to the future. Towards the end they realised they didn't have a chance to, so they defaulted to plan B - getting everything they can back to the past to save the other timeline and sending people to the future to safeguard their research facilities and make sure it gets there.
Its funny how people say "They BOTH move forward" Its only the future one which needs explaining" Off course the one in the present have to move or the Chris Pratt 1 hours later wouldnt be able to use it :D All they need to say is that regardless WHEN in time you are at the start it always jumps you the exact same time forwards.
If I had to guess, I'd say someone ( AJ) was talking during key moments which is why you all seemed to miss so much.
The best week of this channel was the week he was on vacation.
@@DF-qe6jk lol ouch
@@Kurohisaki Truth hurts
@@DF-qe6jk nah. That’s just harsh. There’s always haters but most like him and enjoy the content.
Probably drunk as well
Anybody else notice how every one had infinite ammo no one reloaded once pissed me off
My question was, if you need 10000 rounds to kill one alien, where's the machine gunner????
Yeah, those guns seemed to have a super high rate of fire too... so they probably would have emptied the magazine in like 2 seconds.
Most people don't seem to understand, our firearms are regulated by being humane to each other. If we're fighting alien monsters, we're gonna start using hollow point and air burst, to maim and dismember the many limbed creatures.
@@goldfishprime seriously they should have ran out of ammo at at most 30 rounds shot but they just kept firing someone who has never witnessed a guns functionallity made this movie
"YES!!" "I hate it when that happens!" I was fine with the movie up until then - had "suspension of disbelief" for time travel, was enjoying the movie, but then the aliens appear - everyone has magazines with a nearly infinite supply of ammo!
This happens a LOT in movies and TV, but this was just laughable. (At least they didn't have the pistols make a metallic sound when they are raised, which ALWAYS happens on TV shows. Once again - "I hate it when that happens!").
AND ANOTHER THING with regards to guns and ammo. The soldiers that come back to 2022 KNOW that the aliens are only vulnerable in their throats and abdomens (and that they put their bullet resistant heads and bodies down to protect themselves). So why didn't they have the people armed with armor piercing bullets, and bullets of higher caliber instead of the mostly ineffective .223 or 5.56 that the people were issued?
The were some other things that didn't make sense, but, overall - I really enjoyed the movie. I especially thought the accompanying orchestral music and overall sound effects were terrific. If you didn't watch it using quality headphones or speakers - you really missed out.
Plus the fireworks muzzle flash with all the sparks was super distracting. Also it had the trope of drawing a pistol after the 10,000 round mag runs out... Cos looks cool. If the main arm didn't work on the alien, WTF is a poxy side arm going to do?!
The staircase scene was the best part of this movie, they knew how to build tension, even though it was a generic ambush it still was able to make you fear for what’s next
Damn y'all missed so much, but I'll only say they explained the timeline is like a river and your on two boats attached to eachother by rope. You can only go back and forth. 🤦
Yes the boys really missed alot on this one 😂
It's not the only occasion where something they see as stupid or plotholey, is just something they missed or didn't understand lol..
I've seen the same patterns in multiple films/TV, unfortunately!
They really need to stop watching stuff together. I don’t know if they distract each other and talk through the movie but routinely I watch their reviews and they completely miss a plot point or explanation and then focus on it through the whole review as if it’s a plot hole.
The three of them just form an echo chamber and repeat each others’ opinions and it’s irritating to watch. Why have 3 people to say the same thing?
@@efloWlivE I think Aj watched this one with his gf, but I think what you said still applies lol if they synced their watch times 😅
These three are idiots. Some times they get some things right and some times they get some things wrong. Don't take them seriously please, on anything. Been watching for 8 years merely for the entertainment.
Joe, you’ve been great letting everyone talk. But I feel like you just need a small reminder of that :) OJ seemed like he had to talk over you at points to communicate what he would’ve been thinking about stuff at certain times. It’s not the biggest issue or happens too often, but as a fan I felt like leaving a comment just because I enjoy hearing the 3 of you talk and explain points of view. :) no hate
@@runnergo1398 lol bruh he could just have a cold or didn’t sleep enough happens to me all the time.
@@pwnzorofretards yehh or maybe a Cold Cocaine xDD hehe just kidding
I pointed this out on other videos and he's been deleting comments about this.......
I know right, I've been around addicts and he talks like he's grinding his teeth. This is a famous coke flag.
@@SOLIDESsnake1 about him being coked out or talking over ppl? Lol i deff believe he deletes comments he doesnt like or that make him look bad
I thought the movie was going to end right when he gets sent back to the past, then we got another 1/3 of movie lmao
My eye is still twitching when they said “12 ampules,” and he proceeds to grab “15.”
he def grabbed the wrong batch XD
There was a reason it was soccer , they wanted the whole world to listen to what they were saying. It was the world cup finals( they even explained why it was taking place in the winter as normally wc takes place in the summer. It was because it was too hot in the host country. A nod to the climate change story line as well.
Well not really cuz of climate change, it's because in 2022 when the movie is set, the World Cup is going to be hosted by the country Qatar. Way too hot in summer so they moved it to Winter
Is not stupid that they weren't trained because they were supposed to deploy in 7 days so they were going to get trained but they had to do a emergency deployment , and they told them to go in a crouch stand because when you reach the future it was going to be a 5 to 10 foot drop to the ground
The plan was to train them for a week and send them. They ran out of time because the facility was under attack. The war was basically over and they were at the end of their rope. It's the same reason they weren't 100% equipped.
What's your point. Still a bad concept and wasn't well implemented, also I didn't see the point of having them warp to the wrong destination. It would have been fine to have them warp on the beach and just see a swarm of them, and then make it to the lab.
@@gravityfallscanada they weren’t going to get warped above skyscrapers. That happened because it messed up and put them that high. No one knows where they would’ve been warped. Also no it wouldn’t of been better if they warped and instantly saw the aliens..
They did a good job at showing the aliens when they were in the stairwell. It made them fighting the aliens even better since it was in a tighter area.
@@ramby4436
So you think it's a good way to write the story to make the main character just by chance land in the pool while he could have just fallen to his death in the first act and the movie would have been over?
Wow, pathetic... 🤦🏼♂️
@@gravityfallscanada he wasn’t going to fall to his death. It’s a trick of the camera if you actually pay attention. It’s to make it seem like he was but never actually was. This isn’t the first movie to do something like this. Also why would they kill the actual main character off instantly?
@@ramby4436
That's what I'm complaining about you idiot. He only survived by chance... *That's bad story writing!*
Don't get me wrong the movie was an entertaining watch, but that's about it, it's a one and done movie.
Naw, this ain't it. Yall missed way toooooo much to be sitting here trying to critique a movie you hardly paid attention obviously.
Hahahaha
@@AngryJoeShow going through all the comments you replied too... Is that how you treat your fans?
Like shit because of their opinions you don't like??
How you got so many subs is beyond me I find it disrespectful that you treat people this way. Every comment you're defensive and insulting the fans including swearing which tells me you're very sensitive... Just stop.
One plot hole I noticed. When they were getting ready to time jump, they said that recruits were really old probably bc they had to be dead in the future and not run into their future self. But the population of the future of only 500,000 so it felt like they could’ve recruited pretty much anybody
Also, how did they have that data? They literally had details on how people die. There's a database of that that remains running even after the aliens get the party started?
@@joinapalm4048 Bureaucracy is alien proof.
28:00 It was explained at the beginning that after a week of service, no matter where you are, you were going to be sent back to the past. Going to the chopper was just to put Chris Pratt out of danger in the air. But they were paying attention...
They missed one of the most stupid things about this movie: None of the world even ask what the enemy is while they're sending all these people to their death. At one point the future people say that they don't want to give information on the enemy as it would scare people to want to go fight.... 🤦♂️
Yea that part was dumb, any government would ask for proof and what not, also later in the movie thats the whole reason they dont want to send ppl to the glacier place because they needed proof
@@ssgssbeet4133 Obviously the government knew, but not civilians sent off.
This movie is just a hodge-podge of Contagion, Alien, Starship Troopers, Edge of Tommorrow. It’s such a mess of a story, has decent action though.
Also the World Cup is held during the summer, so whatever winter tournament they are watching is not a World Cup
You're 100% correct each scene is just different random scenes pulled from diffrent films to sell idea of movie . Which is we can have big issues but science can fix them so go to college and get a stem degree ... Which in itself isn't a horrible idea if this wasn't a garbage piece of propaganda that had no real plot and more plot holes than then any film I've seen in last decade .... would of stopped watching if wasn't with people and we weren't laughing 🤣
@@nonebusiness2023 true!! almost every main character in the film introduces themselves by saying their name and what degree they have lol
@@tomfullerful it's so much more than that it's everything . Literally every different scene has something trying to push that. Every one . This is literally the worst movie I've seen in 10 plus years. And again it's not that I'm against people getting stem degrees or think that's a bad idea it's the execution and the way it's done this is literally propaganda and I'm going to say that even if it is propaganda for something I believe. Which makes me sad because this movie and the budget they gave it actually had the potential to be good if the writer had the ability or drive to write better than most children... Sorry there are people that could have written a better script than this in one day
For the love of god let Alex finish one sentence just once
Hell no all alex spits out is negative shit the dude just dribbles poop out his mouth... hes a hater clearly everyone knows this .
@@SMUGLORD it’s valid tho, it keeps the review in check with all the movie biases. Joe obviously enjoyed the film and Alex had to enlighten him with the all the things that made the film bad.
@@d.akasun oh yeah cause black widow was horrible but alex gave it a higher review when in all truth this movie was better but since it's not a marvel movie they didnt kiss its ass.
Never question time travel logic in movies. It never makes sense.
BttF would like a few words.
Interstellar says hi
Looper did ok
Icing on the cake if space marines showed up to fight the aliens.
Space Marines from warhammer would mop the floor with these aliens. The only problem is their numbers, but then again they can just glass the planet.
So I guess between the time they shot the non spoilers review and this, they watched a separate movie.
You can like something and still criticize it.
I love "thirteen Ghosts", but I am able to see the flaws in it...and still keep liking it.
Only Fanboys arent able to do that and immediately develop a "bite reflex" to everyone who dares to "attack their precious".
@@JoshTyrReece You can't criticize something that you don't fully understand.
It is very obvious that they went into the movie without paying much attention to the details and information, thus making illogical conclusions. If you want to do a proper review, you must watch the movie at least twice to get the whole picture of it. Much of the 'plot holes' they mentioned were actually explained in detail in the movie, or they misinterpreted it, got it the wrong way.
They rushed the review, and that is something they have been doing recently. At this point they favour quantity over quality, which is a shame.
@@JoshTyrReece liking something without discernment is exactly what Fanboying, do you think 13 ghosts is a good movie?
@@JesoTV ikr I just came from watching it and literally one of the dumbest complaints they have about the clothes is answered in the scene. Like did we watch the same movie lol
@@stephenmiller2544 well it’s a good bad movie imo
The one thing that bothered me the most is the fact that J.K. Simmons knew the Whitespikes would go apeshit when they smell blood. It's literally how they kill the last one.
And NOBODY gave him that information.
Haha I thought the exact same thing! They never had a scene explaining that to him. Just have to think they talked about it on the long plane ride to Russia. lol
This was the one thing I instantly thought of. Probably biggest plothole out of all the other things if you don't include plot holes just for the sake of progression.
@@uglymusubi507 that is kinda what I decided to be my headcanon. The moment he took the knife and started cutting his hand I was pretty much screaming at my screen: "How the heck did you know that!?"
Just a short scene with Dan and his dad talking would have been enough, but, nope. He just knows.
When Muri told him that he ends up making it back in time, what was stopping him from being a one-man army?
Because he made it back by not being a one man army.
@@lenfarag1999 I don't think you get it... if someone told you what was going to happen soon, would you continue keep doing what you're doing?
If someone told you that you would be winning 50 million dollars from a lottery ticket you bought, are you still going to continue going to work doing whatever it is you're doing for the next few days?
@@0PTIC5 Ok, so by that logic, would it had been wise for him to gear up with weapons, run out on the street, and take on 100 white spikes head on, as if what she told him was some sort of get out of jail card?
Knowing you survive doesn't grant you some sort of invincibility where anything you do will always lead to that eventuality. The eventuality arises ONLY because he will do what he would have done not knowing the future.
Also, that creates another question: How did she know he would make it through? Did she have knowledge of what would happen after he teleported back? If so, how?
@@lenfarag1999 He could’ve done whatever he wanted. Wether it be stealth or guns blazing. He doesn’t know what he did in the future because she never told him and that could be because she didn’t want to tell him or he never told her.
“The eventuality arises ONLY because he will do what he would have done not knowing the future.”
Thats the previous timeline. Him, now (in the future), is an alternate one that has more knowledge because of what his daughter told him, but that future they’re in didn’t change because they’re trying to change the future, not the past.
Joe: Who likes soccer?
Me: Every country in the world except United States.
14:44 WOW dude Patriot reference. That was an epic Cornwallis guy lmao nice!
They don’t have to be in military garb because they are fighting Aliens so the differentiation of wearing military clothing is not important because it’s like shirts vs skins
Ok, but they should at least tell them to wearing clothes for running around. Charles was making fun of a dude with a chef's hat! They weren't giving people enough ammo or anything
@@Excalibur01 lol remember this movie is still stupid that was just another attempt at saying fuck it no marching no training no clothing just go
@@andrejonesDreVinciWRKs It really felt like all the draftees were incredibly under equipped to fight anyone.
@@Excalibur01 they weren't meant to help win the war. That future version of Earth was doomed, and the soldiers were there to stall until a vaccine could be made.
@@fzwwa14y163vcfgteku Which the poorly explained
They said that they were supposed to leave a week later then they did ! And because of the way the time travel works they had to leave right on the spot
Yeah I think they’re missing the reason of why they were still dressed like civilians. They weren’t supposed to be leaving right then so they were still in their regular clothes. The script definitely had issues though but they missed that part as well as the squads part.
@@Ragemonster64
*Yeah I think they’re missing the reason of why they were still dressed like civilians. They weren’t supposed to be leaving right then so they were still in their regular clothes.*
No man, sorry. One of the first thing that happens when you join the military is that you're issued uniforms. Notice that they showed them giving them helmets and other equipment but no uniforms. Come on.
@@Jaslath this isn’t normal enlistment though and it’s likely they hadn’t been given to them yet since they were supposed to head to training. They didn’t even leave with their helmets due to the emergency they left right away. I think they’re spot on with how ridiculous them showing up on a field and suddenly having random citizens comfortable with shooting guns and following in formation is but I still don’t see a problem with them leaving not in uniform. It seems more likely than dan not crushing that vial when he landed on top of it after traveling back in time.
@@Jaslath and they missed the explanation that the conscripts only got enough gear to get by. That's why the tech guy was confused about the chef being ok to go basically in his work uniform.
@@tehevilengineer7939
*That's why the tech guy was confused about the chef being ok to go basically in his work uniform.*
If Dan's drafting was the norm that means that chef was given 24 hours to get his affairs in order and......he decides to come back in his chef uniform and hat. Someone make it make sense. Please.
Honestly, this was actually a pretty fun movie, despite the plot conveniences. Clearly the script could have used a few extra drafts of editing, but they did a decent job with the flawed premise. I really don't know if they'd have much to work with in a sequel, but the story was well contained.
There was an interesting story to tell, but wow, did they mess up the set up. I don't understand what the emergency deployment was about. So Pratt and friends got deployment ahead of schedule for some reason, what was their mission going to be? The command seemed caught off guard Miami was overrun and about to be bombed. Why were they bombing it again? Just seemed like handwave dialogue. "I can't call it off." Well, okay... bomb the city because... Everyone there is dead... why are you bombing it? Pretty sure the planet is infested already, what's one more city? Just so happened there was also a malfunction that dropped the people 2000 feet in the sky instead?
@@goldfishprime The emergency deployment’s only purpose was to kill off most of the people so Chris Pratt’s character could take command sooner. Everything you mentioned was just really bad writing, including this. It would have been much easier to understand if Pratt’s unit had landed safely and then gotten overwhelmed and the team commander was shown being killed, leading to Pratt taking command, but unfortunately the director (or higher) just wanted to jump right into the action without decent writing leading the scene.
@Bignuke87 Ahh yes, because it makes so much more sense to send in a bunch of untested random people and then bomb the people carrying the oh-so-important ampoules, instead of sending a highly trained team of people to accomplish this “extremely important” mission.
Nice job in showing me that I didn’t pay attention at all in this movie.
It was dumb as fuck....but yeah, it was fun.
Still, it's no Starship Troopers
@Bignuke87 So why were they going to bomb the city? You think they would send more people to get it, not first timers.
there were 2 squads, R squad n D squad i think. but none of the squad leaders survived i think cuz of the mishap
Why didn’t they make the time machine go back to like the 90’s, so they would have at least 50 years to prepare or why didn’t they send scientists to collect samples in the first place and go back? Very entertaining movie, but the time travel logic and character decisions really sour the movie for the most part
Because then the movie wouldn't happen silly goose.
They didn’t know the aliens were already on Earth, they thought the aliens arrive at a certain point. It makes sense.
@@mrnicktoyou ohhhh yeeeeaaaaaah continuity saved.
its not hard to imagine that all the young instructors sent back in time that in an event if their stuck in the past, they'd have to kill them self before their birth day
Pretty sure they died in the explosion in the alien ship
They never did explain what this "paradox" effect would be, aside from there just being two versions of oneself walking around. Time Cop had a funny explanation for what happens.
Or just find your parents 10 months before your birthday and just be like "Hey guys can you hold off for a couple months so the universe doesn't explode and I don't have to kill myself?"
@@justincostley527 no, there were still some at the draft compound…
@bmhiscd1 That's the idea. The movie glosses over exactly how time travel functions, but it seems to be branching alternate realities, with the caveat that you cannot exist twice at the same time. Doesn't really make sense, but that's what the movie gives you. So, if you were stuck in the past, it would make the most sense to prevent your own upcoming birth in this reality.
joe, they died the young at the end, only survive the old ones
this film was truly stupid. It made me want to rewatch edge of tomorrow. the calibre of the actors and the script is soo different, albeit edge of tomorrow had a manga to rely on.
Justification to some of the plot points they seem to have missed:
1. About the clothes, the comic relief guy points it out about him not being able to keep his cargo shorts but his graphic tee is fine while the future lady is talking, and he comments about missing what she said since we can't hear her while he is talking.
2. Training, time skips forward a bit after the whole recruitment pitch that shows some gun training. The civilian recruits could have potentially received some training during this.
3. Time paradox, time travel in this movie was never fully explained. It appeared they were only pulling people that died before the invasion to avoid any risk. But the end of the future section shows there are most likely 2 separate timelines.
4. The one thing that was explained about time travel is that due to the way the system works. Time moves forward at the same pace in the future as it does in the past. Hence we they don't send people to the start of the invasion.
5. The alien they fight away from the ship was the queen. The whole reason they had to go through the process of working on the toxin is because they had a toxin before that worked on all of the soldier aliens, but not the queen. Hence why they wanted to use it on her at the end to make sure she died. J.K. Simmons even comments "we should go after it before it lays an egg or something".
6. Blowing the ship, while blowing it up would most likely kill most of the aliens they run the risk of some surviving. So they went in to kill them with the toxin. My issue with this is why didn't they inject the queen, that was bigger and in the center of the room, first.
The fact the aliens had ZERO air capabilities seems like they would get destroyed by the worlds air superiority
Aircraft need fuel. They can't hover over the battlefield forever. Looks like with such a sudden and massive alien outbreak, aircraft logistics could be disrupted. Plus the aliens could overwhelm the ground defenses of airbases. They overwhelmed the ground defenses of the lab base in the end.
@@user-uy1rg8td1v Except they used the airforce throughout the entire movie.
I just love the staircase scene when there running and shooting and Charlie just keeps saying over and over again "S**T". I was dying of laughter so much because that would be me LUL.
Finished it earlier and was waiting for the boys to discuss.
I was shocked how good it was.
Screen Rants pitch meeting for this movie is hilarious
It's hard for me to call this movie "stupid" when it seems somewhat self aware of the outrageousness of the situation and plot conveniences, hence the comic relief throughout.
Right, movie rule #1: If you crack a joke about your lazy, stupid script it makes it all okay. Many movies and videogames use this and I'm terryfied that anyone still fall for that. ;D *twinklesmiley, because if I add a smiley you can't be offended, right?*
@@zidahya Whether it's okay or not is up to the viewer. I am just saying that if someone does something they know is stupid for the sake of being stupid, it doesn't necessarily make them stupid or the work they create stupid. Some could say they are trying to be clever, funny, satirical. If it's something you can't appreciate, then it's not for you, and that's fine, but calling anything you don't agree with stupid without considering the intention, is just shortsighted. My interpretation is, this was supposed to be a fun campy movie not to be taken too seriously or even worth scrutinizing. I mean there's time travel... You know, something NOT real. (As far we know haha) You could absolutely take this movie apart on realism if you wanted, but you'd be wasting your time.
@N BD the more you think about this movie, the stupider it gets. Could've cut 2hrs from the runtime and had the same ending.
@N BD Consistency could fall under realism as well as believability and so on. I think you missed the point of the movie if you thought that wasn't intended. They were desperate so they started scraping the bottom of the barrel for anyone and everyone. They even mentioned that it wasn't about winning, it was about buying time. You think if they came from the future and was like.. "Oh we are just using you guys to buy time, you're completely expendable and we aren't going to actually win this war" that it would be good to convince anyone to go? They even say that if they showed them what the creatures looked like that it would be impossible to get anyone to go, so you know it's not above them to hide the truth for their own needs. As for what they were wearing, that was completely intended, and it was meant to be humorous and meant to depict desperation, which is why they even pointed it out in the movie. The script isn't dumb, it just wasn't a movie for you and that's fine. If you really want to point out something dumb, you could ask why they didn't do more to alter the future rather than fight a war in the future. But then we wouldn't have the movie they intended to make.
Please Angry Joe just let the other Joe speak without being interrupted.
💯 % its toxic, I love the show and seen no less than 30 + full episodes, but the constant "one-upmanship" and talking over the little dude is not cool. Let him get his say! its a gentleman thing to do
They did get sorted into squads. Please watch the movie.
Also Pratt's character was chosen not because he answered first but because he answered first and had prior experience + his daughter was the commander for them (not known at the time but surely you can work that out now).
I hate when they miss little details like that and then complain about those situations when they clearly would of gotten them if they paid attention, they do this a lot especially on good movies
Lol there were hundreds of people and they got sorted in D force or R force and nothing further was said. Were there unit leaders? Was chef guy the squad CO? There was zero structure until Pratt just assumed command and people followed him. You can't just plop down a hundred randos and expect them to work together without putting a chain of command in place.
@@tonyj9743 did you think perhaps that would’ve happened over the week they were supposed to train maybe?
Also perhaps one may have been chosen but died when most of the squads died maybe.
@@tonyj9743 im guessing the bigger force was suppose to basically be bait or a distraction while the smaller force was made up of the guy with the claw around his neck(who was also their leader im pretty sure) and that was the actual squad that was suppose to retrieve or extract the whatever they went to gwt
@@tonyj9743 pratt assumed command because of his prior experience as said by his daughter over his earpiece which is audible to all squad members.
If Chris Pratt cried it would have been an extra point
I thought he did.
he did...
Crisp rats don't cry
I mean bawling crying not teary eyes.
“Stronger then a god damn elephant” I’m pretty sure that quote tickled me because I’m trying to picture an elephant dehydrating into one of those “cattle”.
Wish they would have gone a bit further with some future tech weapons and power armors.
Projectile weapons have been virtually unchanged for hundreds of years. An assault rifle works on the same basic concept as a Wild West remington from the 1800s....just faster
Time travel is just broken in any time time travel, it's like this, the future timeline, why would the people really care about sending people back in time when there own timeline is doomed and everyone dies, there basicly 2 different realitys and not the same, whenever time travelled is made it just creates another reality
My biggest thing is that they magically invented time travel within those 30 years, surely if technology was that advanced they could have developed a way to easily kills these aliens
Not true at all watch Harry Potter
@@Ronaldihldo The aliens aren't even fireproof. Home Alone could set up better defenses than that fortress wall they had at the research center...
@N BD the fact that harry potter did time travel better than this shit movie doesn't actually say anything about anyone other than the writers of the tomorrow war.
I donno what everyone is talking about. This is a descent movie. I liked it.
It is. It's just stupid.
no, the descent was a descent movie. this wasn't even decent.
actually The Core was a descent movie too. And The Abyss.
@N BD you raise a good point. Unlike literally anybody in The tomorrow War
this chinese guy and his son arent wrong, this is in fact a descent movie, a descent into script stupidness
For the life of me, I just can't understand why the past is willing to physically go into the future to fight this war.
Lets say your future self popped in your living room and says he needs your help to fight 50 guys with samurai swords because at some point in the future, your gonna take a trip to Japan, piss off the Yakuza, and end up with a price on your head.
Would you say yes and go, or simply utilize the knowledge you now have and decide to never set foot in Japan and resolve this issue before it ever occurs?
Of why the future didn't just send all of their people back to the past to prepare for the invasion? Sending people to the future is actually the stupidest thing you could have done.
They would fight because if they win they will have access to a second universe. Do you not realize the sheer value a second earth is worth? Especially a earth that's mostly empty of other humans? The amount of utility of having a second universe is literally incalculable.
@@DwolfFW Okay, the greed of the govt aspect I could almost understand, except that on that second earth 99% of the population has been wiped out and the planet is covered with aliens, rendering all resources unobtainable.
@@Clockwork0nions Agreed!
@@tonyj9743 You're not making sense. Yes, the resources are useless with the aliens there. That's why you have a incentive to fight them to obtain those resources. Also with 99% of the human population gone that means that you will have access to a vast amount of resources and damaged infrastructure with no competition from pervious occupants. The prospect of just having double the space is enough to make it worth it.
Drove me nuts, why the F if they brought enough C4 to destroy the whole ship did they even bother with the green goop? All of them could have survived.
The reason this worked for me is because of horizon zero dawn. It reminded me of that operation where they would just send civilians to hold off the threat to give them time to create the solution. In here they were just creating time to create the way to kill the monsters. The daughter even said it at the end how they had no chance, they were just trying to save the past.
Hope many people saw this comment, because it’s true, they explain it. They are just sending cannon fodder