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SONY A7IV VS SONY A7SIII - ISO Test - The Truth about filming in Low Light
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I test and discuss real world lowlight capabilities of the Sony a7IV and Sony a7SIII.
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thoughts on this low light action?
Dude the footage on the a7iv looks much cleaner on your own comparison. A7siii is muddy
I also own both and the IV is alot cleaner and usable at almost all iso levels except 12800 which i rarely use. With the S3 its either 640 or 12800, IV can handle everything in between.
What about when you use 4k60 crop?
A7siii apply massive noise reduction at 12800..A7IV is much more detailed and noise is still not do bad. If you apply noise reduction in post on A7Iv you get better image. Other thing is that A7Siii is not usable at lower ISOs in Slog is sooo grainy. So in more commonly used ISO is A7IV better as well.
Finally, someone does an actual honest appropriate test
I agree 1000%!! I have both, and the a74 can’t even touch my a7s3 in low light. I would even go as far as saying its almost 2 steps behind especially when it comes to slo3 noise in the shadows.
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Totally agree. I finally own the A7IV to B cam for my A7SIII. The photo capabilities are top notch. Sony nailed it when they made 12,800 the second native for lowlight. It makes 💯 sense especially for slog3 shooters. Sometimes I gotta use a ND filter inside interior location during night time if I’m shooting at 2.8 if not I gotta crank the F stop
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"Ip you to be, awar winning!" Then we must listen to Vu and then see what Phuc thinks. I wonder what they think about the Sony A7V. I had better go back and review that video.
about time! good man, just watching now
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Great video fam! I just did a talking head video and turned my ISO up to 12800 and it made a world of difference. I was shooting 640 iso and i was way too dark and lost my dynamic range.
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Great content as always. We have 2 fx3's. Would you consider this camera a good "3rd camera" for just slog3 24p tripod setup for far away ceremony? Or would you recommend something older/used/cheaper but no slog3 support? Thanks for the great videos!
Def good 3rd cam
I saw zero difference, which means the couple who got married won't notice a difference either. If you're shooting for TH-cam or for a wedding, not one single person is going to say "WTF, this guy ripped us off, he used an A7IV and not an A7SIII, I want a refund!" The A7SIII is .00000001% better. The thing I don't understand is why all these creators who own 40 A7SIII's and FX3's went out and bought the A7IV which is clearly a cheaper camera expecting it to be just as good as the more expensive camera. We already know the A7SIII is technically better for video and the A7RIV is better for photo. The A7IV was not meant to replace either one of them. But it does do about 95% of what each of those do. So for 90% of creators who don't shoot movies for tv or film, this won't make a difference.
In usage it's massive.
just ordered the a7iv. i'm mostly a photographer though, but getting more into video, and my a7iii didn't cut it anymore for video. but this gets me 90% the video of a a7siii and 30% more stills camera than my old 7iii. for me it's worth it saving the +1000$ for me while getting a good enough videocamera and a even better stills camera. but i do love your videos though! thanks for putting them out here :)
But i'm still gonna be a rebel and shoot most my stuff in 1080p :P even though the a7iv is softer than the a7siii in 1080p.
Try APSC mode in 1080p. In the alive. It’s better than a7siii. It does a 1 to 1 readout.
Have you tried the A7IV at 12800ISO for comparison? I just saw an ISO test where they went through all the ISO ranges in Slog3 for both cameras. Supposedly A7IV was less grainy through out all ISO except for 12800 and even at that point it was very usable. I haven't seen anyone else try this test, I was wondering if you have?
a7IV has different native ISO than a7siii. Native second iso for a7IV is 3200 and a7siii is 12800
Great video! Can you make a video talking about exposing slog3 in run and gun situations like weddings etc?
I couldn't agree with you more about shooting everything in slow motion. I shoot everything at 4K 120p. Unless it's just a talking head, then I shoot that at 4K 60p. I for one, like the look of 60p so I try to only slow my 120p footage down to 50%. If I could shoot 4K at 240p that would be even better. Can't wait until Sony cameras are able to do that
Wow
Vu daddy - the a7iv at 3200 seemed to have more DR and brighter ?
😮 One - the ultimate - question: Has the A7siii/fx3/zv-e1 natively a 48Mp-sensor, which is pixel binned to 12Mp?
hello vu, please make a video about overheating compare to a7siii please.., so many ppl complain about it, thanks !!
A7IV is fine with high temp turned on
Good video. My a7iv comes in today. Seems like it will compliment my a7siii well.
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I don't think you need to overexpose by 2 stops on slog 3 anymore. sony has a much cleaner noise floor now.
U have to expose +1.7 2.0. don't ask how ink know 👀
Correct, thats in the past, there is literally no point overexposing slog3 anymore, atleast, not a must.
Vu, mind to compare the 4k picture quality from both the a7s3 and a7iv? The color science as well! I'm still hesitating on which one I should get for my daily social media use...
Already did
nice video !
what camera case are You using for the A7IV ??
Tilta half cage
@@nVuFilms THANKS !!!
Hey vu does using an apsc lens affect the a7iv low light performance?
hello greetings from Bangladesh.
After using a few minutes my a7iv becomes warm. Is it my problem or everyone's? I read the instruction guide they written "it is normal camera can be warm ". I getting scared.
It is vai, chill
For hybrid Sony fans, the A7 IV is it. Period. Unless of course you have stupid money to spend on the A1.
I'm with you bro!!
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Please review the rolling shutter in 4k and 1080p in 24 ,60 and 120 fps..cant find this review in any other channel
Full Frame 4k bad rolling shutter in a7iv. Crop ok. 1080p ok.
1:15 but it is well established/demonstrable that slog3 isnt suited to lowlight at all…
Yeah looking to get the same setup. Just got my a74 for my b cam for my 7s3 and waiting till the used prices lower down on to pick up another s3
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4:55 you've mentioned this twice now, could you follow this up with an explanation as to why? I'm new and am curious why 24p would be so bad outside of this situation, or why you'd be messing up if you did it?
If you are shooting run and gun and you need to capture a moment and you shoot 24p and barely got it .. that shot may not be useable because you only got 2 seconds of it. If you shoot 60p you can apply slow motion and capture 5 seconds of it for the edit
Ahh, I understand - so the a7siii wins because there's 4k 60p with no crop?@@nVuFilms
@@geodude4real yea
@@nVuFilms dude thats big brain whoa
Do you have an a7s iii cage on the a7iv? Does it fit? I'm looking for a cage for my a7iv
Half cage
completely agreed ..
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Hello, loved your videos …I am new in photography and I want to make short cinematic videos , vlogs and also want to take some great pictures…I want the camera which is good in both still pictures and videography …which one do you suggest if budget is between 3000-5500rs …can you recommend 2-3 options …I have shortlisted Sony A7 III / Sony A7 IV/ Sony A7R III / SONY A7S III
A7siii if you have the money
@@nVuFilms thanks for my for your valuable advice…which lens do you suggest for best videography and still photography both ? I don’t want to spend more than 1000-2000usd on lens
@@travelneed3406 Tamron 28-75
@@nVuFilms thanks so much you’re the best
I shoot over 100 weddings a year and I’m still using three A7III. The bengladeshi children who edit the videos don’t understand LUTs so I shoot in 1080p60 - creative style : neutral -3/+3/-3
For dark and dirty receptions, I have no hesitation going to ISO 25,600. At least for the insignificant random dancing footage. I blast my lights for formalities and usually manage to stay under ISO 320 for those. When you see the shots flash before you in a finished edit, you can barely perceive the quality difference from low to high ISO.
If you’re at a loss for more trash content to make, chumps like me would really appreciate a split screen comparison capturing 1080p non LOG footage captured in 1/3 stop increments from ISO 100 up to ISO 25,600 or beyond.
Tempted to get three A7IV but they won’t put more money in my pocket. Perhaps when there’s a B&H edu discount on them so I can stack student discounts with corporate tax exemption. Hopefully the stars will align and that will happen around April before the 2022 wedding madness begins.
I think the SIII is overkill if you don’t make use of 4K, plus the variable shutter speed of the A7IV is invaluable for weddings.
If you make this comparison, I’ll do that thing you like and finish you to completion.
ahahahahaha great Man!!!!The true reality
100 weddings a year?! jfc man...
@@jordanlaine7412 2021 was rough with all the rescheduling. Nearly every Thursday - Sunday
@@dredoesstuffdds5029 Damn! Job security though!
@@dredoesstuffdds5029 how much you charge per wedding? That is a beastly amount of weddings.
no se que modo usas pero yo tengo los dos y la a74 tiene mas detalle en poca luz es el nuevo rey
Please dont say “have to overexpose by 1.7/2.0+ stops”, that aint needed anymore with these newer cameras. Expose correctly to have the best highlight roll off and shadow detail.
Ok lol. Don't then. I been there done that
A7Siii is always king!
Sure is
Agreed! I never shoot in 24 fps / too slow and choppy for scenes with movement or lots of panning. I pretty much always use 60fps and EDIT in 60fps. Crisper, sharper video due to more frames and less mushy motion blur which drives me crazy! Never use Slog 3 as I use s-cinetone. Beauty!!!
S-cinetone sucks compared to slog3
You are damn right sir! I myself had to struggle through that. Which is the reason why I don't use s-log at all. I purchased the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 thinking that that's all the lens I will ever need, after all the a7IV is a full-frame right, h*** no! Many youtubers are really trying to fool people about this with the attempt of making Sony sell more a7IVs... Bottom line is, with the APS-C crop at f2.8 4k 60, even my iPhone 13 pro max performed better than this $3,500 setup, and I regret every penny I spent on that!
Love the Useless information, keep it coming. Have a good new year. Yes, I noticed you cut off your "lighten up".
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Lighten up 🤦🏻♂️
That unexpected moment where the camera $1k cheaper have worse performance
I shoot in 4k 60 , in klow light ??? what kind of expert advice is that ?? higher fps, kames harder in low light. Reason to shoot in 60 , is slo-mo . and by the way. almost all Pro filmakersas has hot about tee same ISO as the a7 IV, not 12800, that is mostloy useless .
If I understood wtf your just typed, I may respond
I have zero respect for shooters who think everything must be shot in slow motion or otherwise they think they are “messing up”. This is a complete nonsense.
Have a nice life
First comes one bad idea: to shoot everything possible in slow motion. Then this idea does not get revised when you have to shoot in low light. Then as a result the concept comes that normal range of ISO’s is 3200-10000 ISO… Seriously, first you come up with one stupid thing, then another, then adjust what “normal/practical/real world” is based on that. You are in some dark place, confused and lost.
The only one lost is you my friend
@@nVuFilms 3200-10000 ISO range is extremely high. This is way above “normal” range. Only the unrealistic expectations have made it a norm for many. But that’s ok as that’s what makes the manufacturers develop more and more sensitive cameras. It’s actually always the amateurs who propel the technology development, not only in camera industry. And while pros would rather not do silly things as shooting in almost complete darkness in 60fps or 120fps, they eventually benefit from the amateurs-propelled advancements in technology. Hard to believe but autofocus is one of such advancements which we can thank the amateurs for, they were simply not able to grasp the concept and technique of manual focusing, and like yourself would do lots of extremely silly things only making it harder on themselves, therefore the manufacturers had to come up with idiot proof technology - autofocus.
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@@nVuFilms You are so sensitive, dual range sensitive. 😂 😂 😂
@@deepseadiver8191 right
Bottomline, A7SIII is better for video.
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I agree 1000%!! I have both, and the a74 can’t even touch my a7s3 in low light. I would even go as far as saying its almost 2 steps behind especially when it comes to slo3 noise in the shadows.
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