True. Also really believe powder/jinx did get emotional genuinely. The slight smile she gave was one of thanks for the last game and knowing he still saw her in there somewhere, but she still wanted to be jinx and the grenade was like a goodbye and thanks for the last game we will have together
It definitely is one of the best. But when it comes to the choreo of the fight, the First Sevika vs Vi is my fave. But this packs the most emotion to me
@@стопчтоэтожеамогус it's subjective. A lot in this show is cool but this is a perfect combo of badass and stylistic. Very unique, which for me as well, made it the coolest scene in the show.
The "I used to have a crush on you...until you started talking to the gun." quote of Ekko in LoL just started to make a lot of damn sense after Arcane.
Fun fact: the amount of time between Ekko clicking the stopwatch and rushing at her in real life, and him leaping into the air and beating her, is 4 seconds, which is the exact length of time he can travel back in time with his ultimate in the video game, so its like he used his ultimate to beat her.
I love it when shows are able to at least accurately depict the characters abilities and skills like in game. The fact that this scene is drawn that way helps to further the immerse viewers in the story.
@@matrixiekitty2127 yeah ikr 😭 It's always reminding me of Jhin when I hear four now... He's stuck in my brain. 💀 When somebody says four, my mind = JHIN
@@visjules how does that make sense? This is not how Ekko's powers work. None of this here makes sense. They had perfect opportunity to make something cool, and they fucked it up hard. _"Oh they suddenly turn young and kids because he has time power or something so ye and they than turn back"_ that's not how anything of that works...
Ekko remembering their routine when they use to play as kids and utilizing it to plot his advance on Jinx is a really solid way to hint at his future ability to time travel.
The way jinx scoffs when she watches him pull out the pocket watch was great too imo. It was like she was thinking "really that old thing? I'll play along like we used to." Makes this entire scene more heart wrenching for me.
Ekko's ability to think ahead of time is what gives him the worthiness to wield the z-drive. The fact that he made use of his past together with Jinx to get him to the upperhand in scoring a decent shot at taking her down marks his intellect way beyond. In that split second he decided to whip out his stopwatch, it's like he also whipped out his z-drive but in this case, more realistically and only having one attempt unlike his many tries with the z-drive. I fucking love this scene to the core. Everything from the music, the scenes, the gut-wrenching aftermath. Gah. What a masterpiece
@@quazar4773 Exactly right, I think people are seriously overexaggerating the difference between her child and adult self to be two different characters when in reality its just her pre and post a seriously traumatic and life altering event. The show does contrast the two in a more dramatic way but I think it's meant to be purely symbolic, no one would be the same if they went through the guilt and shock that Powder did. Ekko and Vi are different from when they were kids too but people make Jinx out to be as if a different person who took over Powders body not Powder with a different name and 7 years of life experience behind her.
It’s scenes like this that confirms my opinion that movies and shows, especially fantasy, should remain animated. The artistic freedom to create scenes like this that aren’t bound to “realism” of live-action, the variety and the ability to tell a story within the story without saying a word is just PERFECTION.
Realism is better for many things, but not for fantasy or figure of style depicted as visually as in Arcane. This kind of art is better animated depending on what you want to show. But yeah, money could easily be a problem
EDIT 2: please read my edit before replying to this comment saying “omg you’re right that’s so cool” or “omg you’re wrong that’s so dumb” EDIT: There have been a few replies to this pointing out that I misinterpreted the S1E4 scene with Ekko's stopwatch. Indeed, Ekko explicitly says they have five minutes and starts the stopwatch at the beginning of the scene, which makes it clear he was just checking the time and had probably not used any time-travel abilities in the fight. With this in mind, I think my interpretation is MUCH, MUCH weaker. Although the S1E4 scene was not at the heart of my argument, I think my interpretation of the bridge scene only works if the S1E4 scene was otherwise unexplained. Thus, I want to make it clear that I don't think there's a strong argument anymore that Ekko has his powers in S1. ORIGINAL COMMENT: So I think there's a really compelling argument that Ekko does actually have his powers in the show. The first hint is in S1E4 at 10:04. When Ekko's pink-haired companion gets fatally shot by Jinx, he rushes to the girl's aid and, stooped over her body, he desperately looks at his pocket watch. You can see the watch slowly filling red, which is the device charging back up (his cooldown timer). Ekko realizes that because he already used it during this battle, he doesn't have the opportunity to save his friend, so he flies into a fit of rage and charges Jinx. During the battle on the bridge, notice that there are brief moments where the animation flashes away from young Ekko and shows older Ekko dodging bullets. Then, at the end, young Ekko throws the watch on the ground after getting shot, but then it rewinds to the beginning of the present day fight. Present day Ekko actually got shot square in the chest, just like when he was a kid playing the game with Powder. The difference is that in the present day, instead of throwing the watch down in defeat, he uses it to rewind time and tries again. The scene is stylized the way it is for multiple reasons: it increases the emotional weight of the scene, calls attention to the history between Ekko and Powder, and looks straight up badass. But it serves another purpose: to apply some level of ambiguity. Riot's animators know there will be plenty of people watching who don't know a thing about LoL, so they won't already know that time travel is even possible in this world. By keeping the whole thing slightly ambiguous, they can have Ekko use his power in a way which is noticeable for people "in the know," but which also saves the surprise for people who otherwise would never pick up on it. I anticipate S2 will show Ekko using his powers more explicitly as some big, cool knowledge bomb, but I'm pretty sure he's had it for a while by the time we get to S1E4
My favorite part about this scene is the fact that it illustrates a key truth about both their characters. Jinx’s trauma meant she never really grew up. Ekko’s trauma meant he was forced to grow up. She immediately reverted back to what she did then. He learned from it.
tbh one thing that i simultaneously love and get terrified by is the fact that jinx and ekko (in this scene) are at most the same age as i am and they're both about to risk their lives because of all the shit and trauma they've been through
The ekko jinx relationship might be my favourite. Two two best friends that grew up without their family with severe trauma, now finding themselves on opposite sides.
@@zari024 i think the look that she gave him right before she pulled out the grenade was a hint that she felt that way too when they were kids. And then she started talking to the gun
@@razvan8292 There's this idea that she's not actually talking to her gun. She's talking to her younger self. She named her gun Pow Pow... The same name Vi called her
Yeah after 3 years I can't get over Jinx's "suicide attempt". She literally wanted to blow herself up at the end. Also the song is such a banger I listen to it on a daily basis
@@satesate1286 I figured that was the case when he told vi that jinx belongs to silco. The fact that he put powder on his mural implies that she was dead to him. Or at least, he tried to convince himself that powder was dead to him
I like how the writers did not pretend Jinx could hold her own in a physical fight against Ekko once he got up close. She's not Vi, after all. And I love how the whole scene is not for its own sake, but also expresses how much the people involved have changed and how they feel about being forced to fight each other. Not only it's amazing to look at, but also develops the characters and moves the plot forward. Amazing.
@@rhone3659 Well, it infers that Jinx is slightly behind Vi's combat ability when she was a teenager (about 15 or 16). The question would then be if you think current Ekko could take on past Vi in hand to hand and win. I think Ekko would have a better chance of accomplishing that than Jinx would. Despite being faster and stronger than she used to be, Jinx is still primarily a distance fighter and Ekko is mid/close range
@@rhone3659 Like A. Johnson said, her points in that boxing machine were STILL behind Vi's old score when they were younger. While it is true that she has grown to a point where she can now hold herself in a fight, compared to regular fighters like Vi, who was toughen up by living in a harsh environment inside a prison, and Ekko, who is enormously accustomed to close ranged combat and tactics due to the fulfillment of being the leader of the Firelights, Jinx would have a tough time if they were to square up one-on-one. Jinx's obvious strong points rise when it comes to building gadgets and weapons hence she can wield anything at her disposal and would win anytime. But put her on against someone like Ekko who is not only now a phenomenal fighter, but also lived his whole life fighting to raise the Firelights, Jinx's chances of success would shrink down the moment he's in batting distance with her.
Well the writers did definitely mistake that jayce is an expert fighter, bro did not had any real fight until the robot scene but kicked the robots ass like its nothing
One thing that i learned recently is that when rendering Jinx, the creators actually render her differently depending on whether she is Jinx or Powder. It's very subtle, but when she I Jinx her features are sharper, more edged, when Powder comes up her features are rounder, literally softer. In this fight it's Jinx who bantered, who pulled the trigger and fired on Echo. But its Powder who was on the ground and made Echo falter. It's also Powder who pulls the pin and blows herself up.
Two things is that true and where can I find where the creators talk about the show? And wow that just cuts deep within the show that Jinx and Powder were on a constant struggle with each other
They talked about this in the video series "Bridging the Rift" if i am not wrong, they created a special rig just for her and with a single switch they change her face between Powder-Jinx depending on the scene.
Ekko is one of the only, if not the only character who knows Powder and Jinx. The whole season the conflict is between Vi's Powder and Silco's Jinx, but Ekko knew her before, and knew her change. Ekko has been on both Jinx's old and new life. There's so much weight between these two, and this fight somehow resumed so well, and while it feels like closure, I can't help but wish I could see more of them
@@FeedingFrenzy91 I don't think they have dated, just him having a crush when they were younger is confirmed by the lore and such I'm willing to bet it was somewhat mutual tho that's just me being a shipper
@@FeedingFrenzy91 They never did, an example of that fact is Ekko has a voice line in the game that says: "Yeah I liked her...until she started talking to her guns." Which states the fact they never dated.
I love how you hear a ‘ting’ before the explosion, subtly showing us that Ekko did hit the grenade away, which explains how he got away and how Jinx didn’t just immediately die and was instead fatally injured.
The song choice is just brilliant. Jinx called Ekko the boy savior and was confident in her ability to beat him since the flashes of them being kids was a game they played and she wins the match. There’s a section of the song that goes “everything I know I am you should go and save yourself, thought you had my number, congratulations, played yourself.” The song literally says what Ekko is thinking.
Actually they wrote most (if not all) of the songs to the scenes and not the other way around, so I'm pretty sure the "song choice" is not brilliant in its choice but in its creation. :)
She could technically beat him though. In the flashback, she shoots 4 times and the fourth lands on his chest, making her the winner. In reality, she shot 3 times and had an opportunity to similarly shoot him in the chest in the moment when he jumped, lifting up his weapon, but she didn't, or rather couldn't. We all know Jinx has excellent reflexes and speed, and yet she still didn't do it, same as Ekko could not keep harming her when he looked her in the eyes
Ekko is the one person from Jinx’s past that doesn’t trigger something bad in Jinx’s mind (there’s none of the visuals that usually accompany another character when Jinx meets them)
She doesn’t have traumatic guilt attached to him. There were those who were (unintentionally) slain by her, and one who disowned her when they were both real raw from the above. Even if they’ve outright been enemies for years now, he hasn’t weighed on her head like an anvil.
0:28 that laugh, was like a “how did we get to this?” or a “ahh… old times huh..” i swear the voice actors and animators are really making a masterpiece here
exactly im suprised no one talks about that part. easily the highlight for me! it's so well directed even with the tonal shift from scene to scene. it had me from hyped to tense so fast without even realizing it.
That's also why when he stops, it hits so hard, and I love it. The run up, hearts are pounding, they are in the moment. They are reliving their childhoods in their own way. And then he starts hitting her. And now we realize there was never anything bright about that moment. We remember the brief glance of Ekko's snarling face. We didn't really see two people reliving their childhoods, we saw a traumatized woman briefly re-experience a moment of happiness, and a man remembering her habits so he can put her down. Its brutality. In the last seconds, Ekko realizes that too, that this is almost going too far, he never wanted *this*. He wanted her to stop, he wanted this to end, he didn't want this to keep going. And he has to stop and ask himself if he wants to really pummel someone he used to love to death. Its just unfortunate that Jinx never wanted to live.
Realizing in retrospect that the reason he starts the timer is actually to time his dodges because he has memorized the intervals when Powder used to shoot. He's keeping track of that time so he can dodge properly. Powder never changed the intervals at which she shot. She's still stuck in the past. Ekko kept moving forward, so he is able to deal with her. She relapses back to her past. He can't afford to.
Another detail that reinforces the idea that ekko is one of the few characters focused on the *now* not the past or the future. Even the foreshadowing of a time power his one is focused about getting another chance at what is happening now and his name is also ekko/echo aka a sound coming back to you *now*.
@@willg1088 hextech is different from magical powers, Piltover/Zaun is basically the one place in Runeterra where there's barely any mages, and hextech/chemtech reign
That moment of them both chuckling and immediately knowing what each other was thinking was amazing. Even more amazing that the writers put in a whole story of their past in just a few short moments
In 2 minutes, they showed: 1) Ekko and Jinx had a heartfelt and fun game they used to play together 2) Both Ekko and Jinx remember this game so much so that without words, Ekko was able to tell Jinx they will compete in that game. Furthermore, they both adhered to the rules of the game throughout the confrontation, as Jinx was in a position to evade and attack from another angle but did not. 3) Ekko has incredible memory, being able to remember a strategy Jinx used years ago and counter it years later 4) Jinx's facial expression after she loses seems to allude to the fact that she regrets fighting with Ekko Masterclass in writing, animation and music. 110/10 Add more to the comments if I missed any
5) 1:31 to 1:49 Ekko won the fight while losing initially when they were kids. This could show a contrast between Ekko and Jinx. Ekko learned from the past and changed while Jinx did the same thing twice like she was expecting the same result. It might of been a subtle way of showing that Jinx is stuck in the past. She changed a lot but, refuses to accept that the people around her have changed as well and part of her wants things to go back to the way they used to be. 6) Also I’m not sure Jinx’s expression after she lost was regrets fighting ekko. I interpreted it more as her manipulating him so he would stop attacking long enough to pull the pin on the grenade without him noticing. 7) There’s also the crow and firelights in the background that could symbolize their personalities. Ekko being hope and life while Jinx is represented with an omen for death and bad luck like her name suggests. There could be some predestination going on or it just a way to show off their motifs. I feel like this scene packed a lot and could have been read in so many ways, but correct me if i’m wrong.
Yeah, this is so cool. If this had been an anime, this sequence would have spanned two episodes and included four flashbacks and three inner monologues
@@kyoutasan3506 what does 2d vs 3d have to do with anything? I was implying that mainstream anime has a big problem with overexposition. Another classic fight scene that was 3 minutes long in a cartoon and would have lasted half a season in an anime was the fight between Samurai Jack and the Shinobi. It's not a bad thing to like anime, obviously. Personally, however, I dislike most action-oriented anime series because of their excessive reliance on exposition. It's like they've never heard the expression "show, don't tell"
@@kyoutasan3506 Yep, it is completely different: that was my whole point. In my original comment I never said that this trait makes anime BAD. It's just a trait I personally dislike, but anyone can like whatever they want.
I really like how, once Ekko does close the gap, he overpowers Jinx easily. Really keeps up the continuity that her skills don't lie in hand-to-hand combat
I mean, it shows in her arms. She's not Vi, she's still a teen (i think?) and her hands are pretty slim. Good enough to carry weapons and hitting people with them, but not with your fists.
One thing I love about this scene is how it subconsciously makes you more worried for Ekko once the flashback ends. Pay attention to how young Ekko reacts to losing. He’s visibly upset, that’s clear. However, the level of upset he is at-shown through his aggressive throwing of the pocket watch-is a very big reaction to what would be the first time they play, even if they were replaying for the first time that day. This is a play through many times attempted, and it’s clear that Ekko kept _losing._ Meanwhile, Powder seems so assured. Even at the start, it’s like she’s almost taunting him. At she end, she’s reacting like she _knew_ she would win. Ekko’s frustration with losing and Powder’s self-assurance in winning subconsciously sets into you that Ekko could quite possibly fail this time, except now it isn’t a game anymore. Paintballs aren’t being shot onto a makeshift chestplate. There are bullets being fired and blood threatened to spill. If Ekko couldn’t ever win against Powder when it was just a children’s game, what’s say of his chances now when he’s up against Jinx, who’s more ruthless than Powder? Of course, he _does_ win. They’ve both grown and honed their respective abilities. There’s been plenty of time for the winning favor to be tipped to either side, but even then you’re still seeded with that worry. What if Jinx wins?
It's also a storytelling element. Powder (and Vi) are stuck living in the past. They are trying to reach out to something that doesn't exist any more. Trying to find their past selves. Refusing to accept that peopel change. Whether that be Vi refusing the accept that Powder is now Jinx, or Jinx refusing the accept that Vi didn't mean to abandon her or how upset she is over Vi moving on (with Caitlyn, at least in Jinx's mind). Ekko on the other hand, lives in the present. He expresses throughout the show many times that he is not worried about the past or the future so much, but doing what needs to be done now. But... he shows he has learned from the past and uses that to influence the future. Thats what the symbolism of the wall scene is. "This is everyone we lost" yet also accepting she is Jinx now because she chooses to be. Something Vi wont accept. And thats what the flashback is about here. Ekko using what he learned from the past to win this time. Jinx repeating the past because shes fixated on it.
I didn't get that at all. It was HIS music playing. He taunted her into a predetermined series of moments and she played her part. The scene never once told me that he wasn't in control. The past scenes do show his struggling but he isn't now. This is the culmination of his hard work and brilliant mind. It was like the last step in the hero's journey. Cherry tap the villain and claim the reward.
This scene had no right going this hard. I got actual chills the first time I saw it. Shit, I still feel the goosebumps everytime I watch it. From the "boy savior" line, to the symbolism of the firefly and the raven in the background, to the facial expressions, to the hinting of Ekko's future ability, to the choreography and animation, and to the hesitation at the end. It's pure gold. Edit: Yet again, watching this scene because season 2 hype. It hits harder knowing the subtle backstory references from the game. "I used to have a crush. Then you started talking to the gun."
@@duyplaystation you can literally see it rewinding. İf it were only a memory why did it cut between the kid and adult versions instead of just the kid versions?
I love the subtle story telling of their childhood and adult clothing. As a child ekko wore basically shorts and a tank top but as an young adult he wears lots of layers, gloves and heavy work boots, whereas Jinx/Powder as a child worse 2 shirts and a pair of jeans, but as an adult has a really skimpy shirt and really tight thin pants, it parallels they own mental and emotional state. As a child ekko was so carefree and welcoming, he would talk your ear off and tell you everything, he had no walls to keep you out, but grown up, after all the betrayal and pain, hes got much stronger walls, is still kind and welcoming, but not so naive to tell you whatever is on his mind. Jinx is the opposite, as a child she was so timid and scared and shy, only showing her real self to those closest to her. She had really big insecurities and walls to work around, but grown up, she doesnt care anymore, she threw her walls away cause she doesnt care what the world thinks anymore, she stands out on purpose and adopts the name jinxs as almost an an anti-wall, a "Look at me and how open i am! Go ahead and try to get close i dare you!" A way of pushing people away while appearing not to hide anything, when in reality, the only one shes hiding from is herself.
@@ohmywht1437 Yea, thats why i said young adults, I figure theyre somewhere between the 16-19 year range, so not fully adults but since theyve been so much they probably are more mentally adult than what most people their age would be.
One thing that this fight does exceptionally well, but is present throughout all of Arcane, is just how raw a lot of the combat is, Ekko hitting and punching Jinx down to the ground has a lot of weight to it, the blood scratches and bruises feel real, and every hit looks like it hurts.
Yeah. Ekko only hit her 3 times, and they weren't really focused on, but she already looked like she'd need medical attention, and was bleeding pretty heavily.
This may sound bad, but I love how bloodied and hurt Jinx got from getting hit in the face by Ekko. It cheapens fights when something so severe doesn't even hurt the other person, and showing that clear injury adds weight and a level of scrappiness to this fight. There is gravity to what Ekko is doing, as well as the attempted murder-suicide by Jinx in response.
I just now noticed that when Ekko stops and looks at Jinx, beaten and bloodied, her eyes are grey like they were when she was younger, before she turned into Jinx. Subtle yet so very effective. Arcane is truly a masterpiece.
Also, the blood between the front teeth makes it seem she has a gap in them, like how a lot of children have teeth that still need to fill in. It was the blood on the teeth that made it feel like she was a kid to me more than anything.
@@mark_vs___ … o….k??? The Jinx persona’s eyes, up to the point where she gets shimmered up, are always a more vibrant blue whereas Powder’s eyes were always more of a grey color. The scene where Ekko is beating on Jinx is the exception because it is trying to tell us that, for just a moment, Powder was back.
This is absolute mastery. As soon as Jinx sees the clock she knows that Ekko is proposing to "play one last time" AND SHE ACCEPTS. It is not a stroke of one-sided nostalgia, but in that brief moment they are children again and having fun. I have seen that many people compare this scene to Kakashi vs Obito, but in that case both as children and as adults they fight with weapons and assassination techniques. In my opinion this scene has much more weight because of what it means the innocence of childish play, which both relive.
Masterpiece of a scene here but the context of the Kakashi vs Obito fight is so different, I would have to disagree with the comparison, they are unique in their own way
This scene has to be one of the best storytelling scenes in all of entertainment. They could have spent 20 minutes of dialogue getting their relationship across and it wouldnt give half as much information as this scene. Absolute masterclass in storytelling.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the fact that we go from an overly colorised beautiful scene with loud music blasting to an overly realistic, dull, brutal animation with absolute SILENCE besides the noises of the fight, it is very uncommon for there to be no music or ambient sound in movies and here it fits so perfect and not many notice this great direction choice
There is so much attention to detail here. The look of disbelief on Jinx's face when Ekko brought out the watch (as if to say "really? to play the game we played as kids now?"), the light behind Ekko's back and the darkness behind Jinx's back, the sadness on Ekko's face as he hesitated, and Jinx's resignated smile before setting off the grenade. Beautiful.
Yes! It's really the tiny attention to details that help make not only the animation but the series in general so phenomenal. There are so many shots in the series where if they were never there, no one would ever miss them or notice something was wrong. But their painstaking inclusion (every minute facial expression and every subtle movement) makes the characters feel real (and in turn bumps up every scene and the overall story). One prime example is when Silco is standing over a beaten up Vander in the warehouse, and as he's kneeling down he very subtly slicks/brushes his hair back with a hand. Like, that took time to animate. lol. And it's such an insignificant payoff individually, but details like that add up to make you forget you're watching drawn characters. Allegedly they used zero motion capture in the series, but I have a very hard time believing that if I'm being honest. Although it did allegedly take them 6 years to animate, so maybe it's true. I just hope they don't rush season 2. I'd be willing to wait another 6 years for something of season 1's caliber.
Also, there's a part - namely the slow motion part - where Jinx has her sights on Ekko perfectly but she doesn't shoot. I don't see anyone else talking about that but I assume it has to mean something too.
I'm really praying we get a flashback or something in season 2 about them, either from when they were kids or during the time Vi was in prison and Ekko probably trying to get Powder to come with him and join his team. They have this one scene together and it was enough to establish their relationship as one of the most interesting, I hope we get more
I want to understand why people like jinx... She's just an asshole who never apologized for killing her entire family and just went on for more madness... Trauma is the lamest excise ever... Even here she shows absolutely no remorse of being an absolute P.O.S
@@prabhmeetsinghk1351 She wasn’t an ‘asshole,’ she was a small 11 year old girl traumatised beyond relief; she wanted to help, she was a good girl at heart and had good intentions but made mistakes- she didn’t WANT to kill her family, she felt awful for it. Mylo and Claggor literally HAUNT her in the show, the extreme trauma for what she did created Jinx. Did we watch the same show?
"I used to have a crush, before you started talking to the gun" -League Ekko. This scene packs so much of their friendship that we didn't see into 2 minutes, and builds on both their characters so well, one of the best scenes in the show.
After jinx laugh ekko also say "Man, i miss you so much" in a very sad tone. I love how well they did to tell the fit the whole story in a 2 minute fight, but there s so much more to their relationship, i hope we see more
i used to laugh about the idea and hints of ekko having a crush on jinx before arcane because clearly it doesn't seem right with only league context but after arcane, ekko and powder would've actually been a nice pair
@@Mr.freedom12-u4q I mean they would've been the best pair, but because of what she's been through, she's changed and I don't think they'll have a chance to be together again, for now....
The writers revealed recently that there was going to be a flashback scene to how Ekko tried to save Powder when they were younger, after Vi was imprisoned, and that said failed attempt (because she's Jinx now, she doesn't *want* to be saved) would be why he tells Vi that Powder is gone, has Powder on the memorial wall, and believes there's only Jinx left. I bring it up because with that context, Jinx's mocking line about, "the boy savior" makes sense: she's mocking his attempt at saving her from Silco, and his wince when she says it is because the sting comes from the reminder that he only failed because his childhood best friend was gone, and was happy right where she was. The context makes the whole scene that much more painful.
I bet that by "save Powder" Ekko actually intended to remove Silco from the equation and probably she was already too attached to him to support the former intentions, what leaded to an array of misadventures between the two of them (you know, a recurring theme in the series X-) ).
Woaw I thought it was just aluding to how he is trying to rescue every person in Piltover and he felt bad that despite all these lifes hes saved he couldnt save his childhood friend
Soooo, maybe they deleted the scene to actually not let that "boy saviour" quote to just be linked to that event and instead a mock to everything ekko does to help people... Just maybe
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f it alludes to all of that.. that's who he is.. he saves people places.. dreams.. after being completely helpless to stop his family's death/separation as a pup he dedicated his entire waking days to saving any/everyone he possibly could.. its why he HATES wasting time It's why he saved all the orphans &the addicts that would come with.. why he saved the great oak tree.. &why he tried to save jinx.. someone he sees as his one true failure.. even though none of it was his fault
See, this is probably the best fight scene in this show. And the show has dope ass fight scenes. If they animated this like the Vi vs Sevika fight, no one would have complained. It still would have been a banger. Instead, they chose to use this fight as an opportunity to tell the story of the combatants' pasts, as well as their futures. Ekko gains the ability to time travel sometime after Arcane. The scene rewinding foreshadows that. More importantly than the foreshadowing though, is the flashback. Powder and Ekko have known each other for years. Ekko even had a crush on Powder when they were kids (based on ingame quotes). The paintball flashback scene shows just how close they were. And it all culminates in Ekko doing a sick ass corkscrew and beating the everloving shit out of Jinx, until he sees that Powder might still be in there. Fucking incredible.
Enjoy what's been given to you by a company that is loving you more than any company will love their customers. Appreciate it while you can and stop complaining about what you could'nt obtain more. As a Smash Bros player I find you very ungratefull, the PASSION is sweating from every pore of this show.
@@Ravnesss I assume you mean the second fight, the first Vi vs Sevika was fantastic and narratively purposeful. Not on the level of this scene but still good. The second Vi vs Sevika has basically evaporated from my memory already.
This fight makes me want to bawl my eyes out every time. The sharp cut back to the present, and the fight being over within 6 seconds of it… It doesn’t give my brain time to forget that really, they’re still just kids.
I love how the animation goes back and forth between Ekko as a child dodging Powder's paintballs to adult Ekko dodging Jinx's bullets. Fortiche really outdid themselves with this sequence.
those last ten seconds were so chock full of genuine emotion on both their parts it kills me. like, i don't believe the wide-eyed shock to fear to softness we see in jinx's eyes is a tactic, i think in her own messed up way it was a "I'm glad it's you" because to her it meant she gets to die alongside a friend
Characters shockingly don't lie a ton in this show. At times hold back info, but the characters are surprisingly pretty straight forward and honest with their emotions. I guess when EVERYONE has experienced some high tier trauma, you start to get a lot more honest and blunt people
i saw absolute sadness, resignation, a “put me out of my misery, “save me/help me.” i saw the true cost and aftermath of violence. the show is an instant timeless classic and masterpiece.
Wait can someone please tell me where is this in the episodes I swear I don’t remember seeing this scene and also the scene where singed was talking to viktor towards the end?
My two cents: Ekko knows he can't beat Jinx at this distance, so his best bet is to close the gap. However, Jinx still has all manners of unpredictable weaponry, like the bombs, used to stop him or keep the gap between them far. So Ekko gambled on how much of the old Powder is still in Jinx, using the clock and the old game they played as kids, where Jinx would see if she was quicker on the draw than Ekko's forward charge. Jinx, fortunately for Ekko, reciprocated by reloading her gun and holstering it, signaling that the game is on. This time, Ekko got the timing right.
But it also proves Ekko's greates fear to be true. Despite how much he denied it, Poweder IS still in there. His expression when when he stops beating her perfectly fits that realization.
Ekko tricked her in "playing to be Powder again" knowing she couldn't have told the difference. She respected the times of the shots that allowed her to win when they were little, not realising that Ekko grew up, and, with the same number of steps, he was already on her.
bha it's the principle of the game ??? You didn't understand it??? it's about Ekko who has a weapon to strike close and Jinx/Powder a shooting weapon to strike from a distance.
The artists changing Ekko's hairstyle from a mohawk to dreads/braids really flows with this setting and character of his. I actually think it suits him better than his original hairstyle.
His original hairstyle gave me hawk vibes from cobra Kai. I'm glad they change the hairstyle but they were about to me him have a mow hawk until they didn't like the design so they change it to locks
I cant express how perfect this fight scene is, it perfectly describes how both characters act and feel. One thing that caught my attention first watch was how Ekko used the timer to piss off Jinx but instead it just makes her laugh, it perfectly shows how unpredictable she is, another thing is that Ekko remembers that fight when they were kids, and Ekko adapts to the mistakes he made. The clock breaking and all of the details about an hourglass on Ekko's character is also an ohmage to his lore in League where he has the ability to manipulate the space time continuum. Brilliant show, story, art, VA, and soundtrack. 10/10
On ekko cinematic trailer, you can see that if he get hit and reverse back time his injury didn't reversed and only the time but in this show, he got hit by jinx and he reversed uninjured?
@@白キロ their both reliving the past, it’s try to show that trauma has stunted jinx’s mental growth “, while also forcing Ekko to grow up, which is shown we learned from their games when to dodge, while jinx is still playing the same way as before.
Imagine the storyline if instead of backing away from the bomb he grabs it and hugs it to his chest in a final attempt to save jinx. yes dying in the process. Jinx/Powder already being warped watches as yet another friend dies infront of her.
If you notice, in every scene Jinx used Powder voice and face to trick other into her traps she always flashed that "gotcha!" killer smiles and laugh. But here, she didn't. That face at the end was not the face of a killer but rather a face of a contented suicidal person. This is the only time where Powder briefly took control, she saw in Ekko eyes and she was disgusted by what she had became, the monster that every one called Jinx and fear; the monster that not even her sister and her only childhood friend (and quite possibly someone she has feeling for) could recognize and hated. In that moment, Powder hate Jinx with all her guts and she decided to end it all by pulling the pins. At least in Ekko eye, she died as Powder not Jinx. Tragically, Powder did die but Jinx survived.
I dont think she necessarily hated who she became but she definitely was tired of all the issues,betrayals lies and death around. For a second there she was definitely happy to just be able to be as a kid again and have a friend.She was happy to go relivinng her happiest days with a "friend".
You guys need to read between the lines. Jinx found hope after learning that Vi is alive, that they can be sisters again. She tried to kill herself after the hope was crushed. Jinx and Powder are the same person. People change, that's what Jinx has accepted at the end of a season. She was forged by trauma and hardship, she can't go back to being just an innocent kid. Jinx also accepted that she and Vi just can't have the same relationship as they had before, because they both changed so much. Vi was the one wanting to fight the Piltover, remember? So Jinx now takes revenge on Piltover alone because she is a monster they made.
They aren't seperate people. Everyone changes, Jinx just so happens to have changed her name with the massive changes. Jinx is Powder, just all grown up and with lots of hardship. I don't think she's suicidal, that's very not in character. She knows Ekko and Co has her cornered, so if she's going out, why not take them down with her.
A lot of people missed something important at the end of this scene. Jinx willingness to die as powder when surrounded by her friends. She wasn't just trying to kill ekko with that grenade. It was a suicide attempt to free her of her guilt, her alter ego jinx and the visions of milo/chubby kid (sorry I forgot his name). That face at the end is a suicidal powder not a vicious jinx.
@@Gladiva19 Not really out of character when she's that unhinged, she has a death wish for accidentally killing mylo, clogger and vander, I can't blame her for that.
I see that many people don't realize this, but when Ekko hesitates you can see that Jinx's eye color briefly changes to grey, which she had when she was still Powder (in act 2-3 she has blue/pink eyes). The visual storytelling in this series is just immaculate.
When the music kicked in, i was unexpectedly pumped up for what was likely to be an emotional fight scene. Didnt expect them to cut it at the end when the actual fight took place, and it made it hit even harder. The music was symbolic of their past bond, and the silence was symbolic of the state of that bond now (But seriously the beat went criminally hard for no reason)
The firefly is a symbol in Japanese culture that represents both hopes for the future and all the departed souls. The raven, on the other hand, is associated with loss and unending grief, but also, in Native American culture, represents deep insight, enlightenment, and knowledge of the unknown and arcane (literally, no pun intended). Ekko is driven to be a Boy Saviour by the losses of the past. While facing those same losses, Jinx cannot get over her grief, and it has driven her to darkness and insanity. And both of them are shown as both skilled fighters and brilliant inventors. So they both possess very similar initial conditions, and I imagine, in their youth, they had a LOT of things in common. But what is nuanced here is that, like with the monkey bomb, Jinx is pulling the trigger, causing this to happen. Ekko is just playing, having fun with a friend. He was innocent, still is to some extend. Ekko understood loss but built something on top of it. Jinx faced loss as well and proceeded to destroy everything around her due to it. Ekko builds, Jinx destroys (jinxes things up). Ekko winning here (beyond his obvious ability to keep trying again and again due to Rewind Time) is perhaps an expression of the writer's hope that those who build triumph, in the end, over those who endlessly destroy. What hurts is that Ekko obviously liked Jinx a lot when he was a kid. "I had a crush until you started talking to the gun." And so, as he is who he is, he hesitated at the end there. It's so...sad :( That they managed to convey all of this without saying a word, on top of the music and the animation, shows just how much care was put into this show. Literally cannot wait for Season 2!
I might be looking at this real deep as an Ekko main. But from the moment the song started being the beginning of the fight till the end when Jinx blows up her bomb is 110 seconds. Which is the base cooldown to Ekkos Ultimate
He should have just murdered the bitch(not sexist, i would say the same thing if ekko was in jinx's place). Alot of fucking problems would be solved with Jinx's death.
Man, I keep coming back to this scene. With the music, it's an energetic battle of two badasses. But when it's quiet, it's a tragedy of two friends trying to kill each other.
I love the way that this show never wasted a single second of screen time, there were never any filler transitions or pointless monologues, they took the minimum time needed to convey the importance of the scene and made every second of the show an experience. I belive the sheer amount of time and attention put into this show will make it a pop icon for years to come.
Lets talk about that scene where imagine dragons appear. Thats the only scene they added as extra and a filler (also with purpose to the show but nor the story)
@@antonhallergren588 yeah, but ID being there was unnecesaary. Im not saying it was bad, but that bit of them appearing was unnecesary. It could have been anyone or only just scenes of vi.
@@ImsexyNiknowit1 probably was one of the "demands" from ID for them to do the theme song for the show and since the two parties have a long history of working together (and ID was known fans of LOL) they themselves would definitely want to be included as cameos in the show and Riot would be extremely willing to let them cameo.
@@ImsexyNiknowit1 Actually, the fun part of that is that their appearance have a purpose. It happen a lot throughout the story, with either the jukebox, someone singing or appearance of place. ID is simply a music transition so the song wouldn't be out of place in Vi about to confront Survika
The idea of Ekko using the ticking of the watch to time his moves perfectly to Jinx's shooting pattern as she uses the same as Powder is not only brilliant, but also tragic as it proves the one thing Ekko was afraid of: Powder really still is in there.
@@vynneve no... He is literally just remembering Poweder's shooting pattern. Grown up Ekko does not fail, kid Ekko loses vs. Powder. There is no time reversal in Arcane yet. They are just beginning to apply Hextech! Arcane does not follow League's lore.
@@vynnevethis is wrong. He doesn’t have that ability yet. The vignette is an homage to how his schtick works in LoL, but he’s likely to acquire it given he’s working with Heimerdinger now.
This scene is actually one of the most breathtaking moments in Western animation to date. Only one thing can match it: The Leap of Faith from Into the Spiderverse.
The look on ekko's eyes... "I would die for you". The look on jinx's "then die with me". A master piece, words that find the way without the need to be pronounced.
I think that's what made this show so great, the writers decided to show, not tell. They told a whole narrative with a two minute fight scene and there's so much left for the viewer to take in and think about.
As a 3D Modeler and Animator. This is by far the best thing I have seen in a long ass time. The modeling team did an amazing job on the designs, and the animation department deserves a raise for the 2D-3D coordination. 11/10
@@MarioFan-qe9ic It's 3d with lots of 2d paintings, effects, backgrounds and even the 3d models are basically canvases for handpainted materials it's very good and hard to make
How fucking awesome that first season of animated tv series that was. Most epic drama, most tearjerking moments, most quite familiar yet unpredictable characters and their moves. A bloody masterpiece.
Love how the writers gave Ekko a tactical mind. He plays out the fight in his head in both the present and the past, knows how Powder fought in the past, understands what Jinx is capable of in the present and what he needs to do to get an advantage. Ekko then knows he has a narrow wind and puts everything he can in a 10 SECOND WINDOW and closes that gap!! That is genius level strategy!
It's also a brilliant precursor to Ekko's powers. His ultimate rewinds time so he can relive a moment and do things differently, and here he is doing just that, without any special equipment at all. Even before he acquires any special technology, this is just how he works.
There is one frame at around 0:28 where Jinx looks genuinly happy. Also the progression of facial expressions from surprised to happy to melancholic is staggering. This scene is outstanding.
I've read it as her going from disbelief to bemusement he's challenging her to their game again, then resigning herself to them having to go at it again and trying to shut herself off from the emotions.
I can’t take credit for this, but believe it needs to be shared. The way Jinx looks at Ekko as he raises his fist while she releases the grenade is a look of acceptance. Acceptance that she is willing to say goodbye to this world with the one person who never wronged her as a child and was truly just a lost friend. Loved this series and this scene!
I think it's the opposite, she's using her "fragility" to make Ekko flinch, and it works, just look at the sour smile she gives him right after, like she's saying "You're still a softie". She does the same in episode 9 against Cait, she makes herself look small like a harmless rabbit.
As someone else said, she wanted to die as Powder together with Ekko. And she pretty much did. Since afterwards Singed did his thing and I imagine that's just about when she completely snapped and turned into Jinx, with no trace of Powder left in her whatsoever
This is masterclass of story telling, choreography and animation design all captured in a 2 minutes fight. Arcane is the best animation series I've ever seen in my life.
Im late but for those who were confused why Jinx didn’t take that much damage from the explosion, it is because of Ekko batting up the grenade for a split second, you can hear the “Thunk” sound at 2:17, its hard to find the plot holes here….
Actually that sound is the bomb going off, not Ekko smacking the bomb away. There's another scene where Jinx is talking to herself while setting off her bombs in frustration. You can hear the same sound just before the explosion. If anything it sounds more like a timer just before the explosion
@@batalorian7997 I rewatched as soon i saw your comment and i can confirm its not, at first i thought i heard it but its a matter of fact that Jinx kicked it making that sound and soon after that she threw a belt full of those bombs it didn’t made the same “thunk” sound as we hear in 2:17, i think it is really most likely to be ekko batting it up with his metal pipe
And another one is with the bombs present in the tent where Caitlyn saw the fire, the bomb did not made the same sound, only the sound that is made from the grenade’s jaw closing and the high pitch ticking sound the bomb made before exploding.
@@nashnashnash8205 yeah i saw i that same scene too and was also going to recommend it to you. That tink sound is always right before the explosion. In the other scene Jinx kicked it right when it made the sound. Her boot hitting the bomb wouldn't have made that sound. Then we get the scene in the fire, again the jaws are the on the bombs make that sound just before it explodes. And on the bridge, the there are jaws on the bomb making that loud tink sound just before it explodes. The only time it doesn't make that tink sound is when Jinx locked the bomb's jaw on the belt and threw it away If Ekko did hit the bomb with his bat or whatever (metallic) object, it wouldn't have made the same sound when Jinx kicked it with her boot.
this may be one of the single best clips of animation ever put on a screen. without any context, this scene would still tell a story without so much as a word spoken. absolutely insane
@@bigsteez13 guy and girl played game when smol, guy and girl grow up and now fighting, girl and boy have nostalgia game but more dangerous, guy beats girl but then rethinks, girl booms bomb
@@bigsteez13 two characters, after growing up, are fighting and showing major parallels to when they played together as children. They both come to a realization of how messed up the situation is and briefly revert to their childlike mentality. The girl then releases a suicide bomb (likely to kill the person she’s become) There’s even more to the symbolism and visual story assuming you’d have context from arcane and league of legends, but you can understand what I said by watching it with no context and basic comprehension ;)
@@mystikrugburn8292 Could be. But their childhood memories are shown. So it estabilishes a link in its own. Along with the superb micro expressions, its a scene that makes sense in itself. 2 people with a deeply linked past ending up on 2 different sides. No need for narration, no need for further explanation or even dialog. Facial expressions and scenes with the characters back when they were young dictate it alone.
1:48 - 2:09 had me the most emotional when viewing this scene. Watching Ekko knock Jinx down and then having her pinned down as he beats her face while she tries to push him off really had me shaking. I couldn't believe how brutal this fight was with just the sound effects alone. And then Ekko stopping as he was about to land another hit only to see Jinx's frightened expression and he realizes what he was doing made me want to cry. Honestly this is one of the best emotional scenes in Arcane and it truly deserves all the praise it has gotten.
Most people instinctually do not want to exert violence on someone that shows clear signs of submission, even if they are in a fit of rage. Even if it would be smart/rational to knock her out completely or even kill her, every fibre in his being says no when he sees her look at 1:59. The fact that she probably was his childhood sweetheart just adds on the level of emotion in this scene.
Everyone’s talking about ekko hesitated to kill jinx’s but miss the part where jinx hesitated to pull the trigger while ekko was up in the air, she had a clean shot.
I never thought about it like that. I always thought that Ekko was just a bit faster and she couldn't get the shot off. Not thinking about the fact that she might've just not taken it...
@@FickleNFun yeah but we also seen her actually dodge fast attacks like that up close, she could’ve easily moved out his way or something but she really did hesitate cause atp she was still fighting with herself
this scene is the perfect example of how to reward long time fans by showcasing and foreshadowing Ekko's "ability" without actually spoiling anything to newer audience.
this is one of the most legendary scenes from Arcane. I loved the stop watch swing at the start and the silence before the amazing fight scene. btw FUN FACT: Arcane took six whole years too make the first season. shows how much time effort patience and alot of money into this. amazing work.
I love how Ekko starting the stopwatch is his invitation to the fight and jinx accepts thinking she already won since she would always in their childhood game! Such an amazing scene! That's also what kept Ekko from being able to stop Jinx because he put his mind back to when they were friends.
I just realized how much pain there was in jinx's voice when she said " look who it is , the boy saviour " I think she felt betrayed by the fact that he gave up on her " If the boy saviour thought she was beyond saving then it's probably true right " was probably one of her many trains of thought.
There are so freaking many things that could mean it's not even funny. The one thing you can be sure of is that it meant something, and it meant a lot. The emotion that came through with that simple line was insane.
@@xCoatlicuexI think what OP is trying to say is that he gave up too early. With all the hurt she got, Powder was hiding behind Jinx and that’s all what Ekko saw. It wasn’t until that moment after Ekko gave her the beat down that he saw that Powder wasn’t dead yet and if he maybe continued to fight for her, maybe he could have saved her. There’s a lot to take from the scene tbh. I don’t even think that Jinx was giving it her all to kill him. Felt like the entire time she was goading him to kill her and to give her peace
@@John-to6sl Ahh, I didn't even recognize that moment of redemption. So his growth arc was the ability to question his certainty in his projection of a monster onto her. Don't get me wrong, she certainly acts like a monster, but with this soft core of humanity underneath, Jinx is an emotional wall built to defend Powder. And when the wall crumbles, Ekko sees the humanity he refused to acknowledge before. So that look of surprise on his face to recognize his friend, it not only turns into empathy, but guilt and regret. I knew there was a reason I kept coming back to this scene, every time I do that, there's something I need to learn. I'll watch a scene like, 30 times and still be fascinated with it until I find the underlying meaning. I mean, it's also a visually stunning scene, but the emotional weight, and the juxtaposition of joyous nostalgia and brutal reality just hits a spot I don't thing I've ever felt before.
When you think about it, Powder knew what she was becoming. She knew Jinx was taking over and it was something she couldn't fight without losing: that's what she was telling Vi in episode 6 and what Silco tells her in episode 9 (something along the lines of "it won't be long before she realizes you're not that girl anymore"). It's what makes the scene where she lights up the flare so powerful (because that was Powder KNOWING that if Vi reached her she had to face the past events and how badly those affected her) and what makes her final words to Vi in episode 9 so heartbreaking. She knows that if she wants that relationship with her sister again, Vi needs to accept her as Jinx, and the only person who genuinely loved Jinx was Silco. But here we see Ekko, who spent years fighting against Jinx, probably trying to get Powder back at first and lost friends in the process, who Powder knows for a fact gave up on her at some point, giving Powder one more chance. Maybe it was because he spent some time with Vi, but the way he smirks at her sounded like a "You remember how to play this game?". And she was so surprised that he'd do that, cause she knows Ekko was looking for Powder in that moment. And she shows him she's in there. So when Ekko wins and looks down at her she sees he face and understands Vi was right, Powder is still in there. Ekko likely got to see Jinx's maniacal face during fights and most have gotten used to that, who knows how long it's been since he saw Powder. And the moment she looks at him he immediately realizes that he wasn't ready to kill his childhood friend, despite everything she had become. But after spending years waiting for Vi, clinging to her voice to survive and having her for just a second before seeing her leaving again for some other girl enforcer is just too much to take for Powder. She knew the grenade was going to kill her, with chances being Ekko would have survived instead because he was on top of her and he could have still ran if he was fast enough (which he did). It seemed to me she was attempting to kill herself more than she was trying to defeat Ekko here, and she was smiling softly at someone who, no, didn't love Jinx, but ACKNOWLEDGED who she had become and STILL saw someone who was worth sparing. It felt like a silent "I'm sorry". It's such a tender, sweet, devastating moment... and like many people say, this is where Powder dies. And THAT'S when what Ekko told Vi becomes actually true: Powder is gone, all there's left is Jinx.
I would just want to add that Ekko didn't run. If you pay attention at the end, just before the explosion there is a THUMP. Ekko batted the grenade in the air, saving both of them.
How to tell backstory, character growth, character motivation and put easter egg in 2 minute scene without using single line of dialogue. Pure masterpiece.
And this is how arcane doesn't insult its audience, it just showed us what jinx and ekko's relationship and their childhood in just 2 minutes, it's crazy.
Well, you can also do the same thing in 10-15 minutes of screen time or even over the span of multiple episodes without insulting the audience either. It's all in the writing. Just because you give more time towards showcasing a relationship doesn't mean that you aren't doing just as masterful job as somebody who can do the same in 2 minutes. It's just two different types of story telling. Although i loved Arcane there where instances where some character motivations or moments didn't hit as much because the shorter time we've gotten with them. This one wasn't the case
The fact that ekko actually liked her in a "more than friends" kind of way adds so much more depth to this in that Ekko had to be the one to face her like this. It's honestly so sad because Jinx probably never knew he did, So this to her was far less meaningful than it was to Ekko.
@yellowrain2062 Ekko has voice lines in the game where he references that he used to like/love Jinx in the past but whether that's canon in the show isn't confirmed
2:05 This moment, dear good. Ekko, with his eyes, clearly goes the realization that the girl he's hurting is the Powder he knew, underneath the crazed exterior of Jinx. You can clearly see the words in his mind through his eyes. "Powder? ... Is that you?... It can't be..." And then the scene changes to focus on Jinx, her expression clearly conveys defeat, and even embarrassment: "Yep... It's me..." Such a beautifully sad exchange that needed no words. Arcane is incredible
Honestly the whole damn show excelled in the show dont tell EVERYONE has theories and clues they want to say in the comment for every 2 minute clip lol amazing show 10/10
the writers never thought of the audience to be "stupid". as in they didn't need to give an exposition beforehand showing that ekko and jinx were close as kids.. they show it masterfully incorporating it in the present tense which automatically gives us the idea that these 2 used to play together. because not once during the series other than this moment we see jinx and ekko interacting closely but this gives it all as though we have known they used to be friends all along
I actually just watched a few videos by this guy Shnee last night and it's amazing how they actually did include little scenes of them hanging out as kids, like Ekko and Powder riding some spherical contraption past some enforcers while Ekko is flipping them off, or Ekko trying to show off his boxing moves to Jynx and then falling down clumsily.
The music video for Enemy shows more of these moments but I agree, this is masterful visual storytelling. A 2 minute scene with no words spoken shows us how close they were, how Ekko is a tactical mastermind (timing his dodges), how Jinx is stuck in her traumatic past while Ekko used his trauma to create a better present, how both of them still care for eachother and it even incorporates Ekkos rewind powers without actually giving them to him - "show, don't tell" at its finest.
I always liked Ekko's story, his character, his abilities, his themes, basically everything. This made me loved him even more. Goddamn! This is so good
I can't believe how well written Ekko is in an already incredible show. From his growing up, his fighting, his community, everything about him... It's like he had his own story completely absent of the one we're seeing. Like there's a 'show' where Vi and Jinx are side characters in Ekkos story just like Ekko is a side character in Vi and Jinx's
At the end of act 1 everyone who Ekko was shown to care about is either dead or no longer in his life. I think a great scene for season 2 could be a rematch between Ekko and Jinx where Ekko tells Jinx that when she decided to go with Silco, she was the one who actively abandoned him. It would be a powerful scene because Jinx sees herself as being abandoned by Vi, but she probably doesn't realize that she did the same to Ekko and that he likely has trauma similar to her own because of it.
@@simonn611 i know lore. Somthing can happen but i can see him focusing in acctual war not in Jinx. I just hope for some small interaction plus Vi- Ekko fight would be also epic, plus Victor vs Jace. Depend how far they want to go. I think in s2 will be more Ekko and Vic plus Orianna, Warwick. Silco is dead so maybe Corina will made aperance also. I wish Renta but Corina is more possible imo. Also i think that Noxus will make bigger aperance in s2. Noxus 100 % will want to make some bigger influence in 2 cities. Sory for my English.
not gonna bc .... after silco death powder was gone. actually for season its only jinx there is nomore powder. And Jinx in the Lore dont give a shit . she is just after cait and vi and destrustion
What I love about the ending is that Jinx didn't throw the gernade on the ground to kill Ekko, she threw it because for that brief moment she saw what she had become and wanted to end her life, she knew Ekko would get out alive but she didn't want too, because for that one moment Powder was there and Powder hated all the things Jinx had done, so Powder didn't think she desevered to live. The thing is, Jinx had fought for so long to get rid of Powder that she actually conviced herself and Ekko, that Powder was dead. For me, it was clear that Ekko was in denial, and would say or do anything to convince himself that Powder was really gone forever, so that is would be easier for him to kill her, but for that one moment Ekko saw Powder again and wasnt ready to kill Powder. So when she threw the gernade on the ground it wasn't a cliche of, "If I go down, You go down with me." It was more of a, " I know you will make it out alive but I don't want too, So if this is it for me, I want the last face you see of me to be Powder."
They're not separate people really though. She pretends she's a different person so she doesn't have to own up to her mistakes. She had a moment here though where she couldn't deny who she was, and the despair of hurting so many people accidentally and on purpose made her suicidal. Then when she comes back after being experimented on, she decides to live on as a terrible person because she doesn't think she can be a good one (or rather she thinks if she accidentally hurts people again Vi will abandon her again, so she gives up instead of trying).
I quite like how they show the exact moment he used to fail as a kid and contrasts it with the new maneuver he learned as an adult that helped him win. Instead of doing some kind of silly training montage or monologue about how he got stronger, they showed that he has been training his acrobatics using their play fights as references. Big Ekko do the flip.
In my opinion this scene is when Powder truly dies. Because when she looks at Ekko she is ready to let go, ready to give it up and stop trying and actually find some moment of redemption in her death. But Silco saved her, and damned her, his intent was good, but he destroyed Powder and made Jinx into the monster she became. In the end, Ekko may be the only one that can still find some part of her left, but he probably wont look for it anymore.
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He was ready to kill Jinx, he wasn’t ready to kill Powder…
I came here to watch action not for a comment to break my heart
Damn it
Thats deep
True. Also really believe powder/jinx did get emotional genuinely. The slight smile she gave was one of thanks for the last game and knowing he still saw her in there somewhere, but she still wanted to be jinx and the grenade was like a goodbye and thanks for the last game we will have together
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Honestly the coolest scene in the whole show
It definitely is one of the best. But when it comes to the choreo of the fight, the First Sevika vs Vi is my fave. But this packs the most emotion to me
lol imagine how bad is show if this is coolest scene
@@стопчтоэтожеамогус it's subjective. A lot in this show is cool but this is a perfect combo of badass and stylistic. Very unique, which for me as well, made it the coolest scene in the show.
@@стопчтоэтожеамогус I think this comes down to how bad is your taste.
@@Trisander cry
The "I used to have a crush on you...until you started talking to the gun." quote of Ekko in LoL just started to make a lot of damn sense after Arcane.
You play LoL? lol.
@@ragingshibe yeah um...thats where the characters are from? its a video game bro
@@christianjeanbaptiste9441 lol.
@@christianjeanbaptiste9441 lol
@@christianjeanbaptiste9441lol.
Fun fact: the amount of time between Ekko clicking the stopwatch and rushing at her in real life, and him leaping into the air and beating her, is 4 seconds, which is the exact length of time he can travel back in time with his ultimate in the video game, so its like he used his ultimate to beat her.
I love it when shows are able to at least accurately depict the characters abilities and skills like in game.
The fact that this scene is drawn that way helps to further the immerse viewers in the story.
It's always the number four
Duuude that attention to detail is why this show is so good!!
@@matrixiekitty2127 yeah ikr 😭 It's always reminding me of Jhin when I hear four now... He's stuck in my brain. 💀 When somebody says four, my mind = JHIN
That is a fun fact!
The writers: "We don't have time to tell the rich history of these two character"
The artists and writers: "Gonna need about 2 minutes"
the ‘show don’t tell’ principle at its finest
Makes sense, this is Ekko we’re talking about
off topic but THIS 1:48 was amazing
@@visjules how does that make sense? This is not how Ekko's powers work. None of this here makes sense. They had perfect opportunity to make something cool, and they fucked it up hard. _"Oh they suddenly turn young and kids because he has time power or something so ye and they than turn back"_ that's not how anything of that works...
@@WwZa7 Yeah I think you perhaps didn't understand what happened in this scene.
Ekko remembering their routine when they use to play as kids and utilizing it to plot his advance on Jinx is a really solid way to hint at his future ability to time travel.
The way jinx scoffs when she watches him pull out the pocket watch was great too imo. It was like she was thinking "really that old thing? I'll play along like we used to." Makes this entire scene more heart wrenching for me.
Ekko's ability to think ahead of time is what gives him the worthiness to wield the z-drive. The fact that he made use of his past together with Jinx to get him to the upperhand in scoring a decent shot at taking her down marks his intellect way beyond. In that split second he decided to whip out his stopwatch, it's like he also whipped out his z-drive but in this case, more realistically and only having one attempt unlike his many tries with the z-drive. I fucking love this scene to the core. Everything from the music, the scenes, the gut-wrenching aftermath. Gah. What a masterpiece
@@ThatChester Also, his intellect geniunely surprised Heimdenger which has seen countless brilliant students over his life time, that speaks a lot.
EKKO DEMOLISHED JINX FINALLY SEEING HER GETTING BEAT UP SO SATISFYING
@@vivixio2737 no, watch "Seconds", his short, you dont understand his power
The fact that Jinx remembered this as the game they played as kids just showed how not gone and yet gone she is.
Powder is jinx. It's impossible to go back to how you were just like us, we change every year and going back to the way we were is impossible.
@@quazar4773 Exactly right, I think people are seriously overexaggerating the difference between her child and adult self to be two different characters when in reality its just her pre and post a seriously traumatic and life altering event. The show does contrast the two in a more dramatic way but I think it's meant to be purely symbolic, no one would be the same if they went through the guilt and shock that Powder did. Ekko and Vi are different from when they were kids too but people make Jinx out to be as if a different person who took over Powders body not Powder with a different name and 7 years of life experience behind her.
@@fionn2220 Exactly, understanding this honestly makes everything more tragic and relatable.
this scene is in Ekko's mind, not Jinx's
@@lunarul yeah but Jinx recognizes Ekko's stopwatch at the beginning of the scene which means she remembers the game they used to play
It’s scenes like this that confirms my opinion that movies and shows, especially fantasy, should remain animated. The artistic freedom to create scenes like this that aren’t bound to “realism” of live-action, the variety and the ability to tell a story within the story without saying a word is just PERFECTION.
I think animation is more expensive though, since they have to build everything from scratch.
Realism is better for many things, but not for fantasy or figure of style depicted as visually as in Arcane.
This kind of art is better animated depending on what you want to show. But yeah, money could easily be a problem
This is why I don't watch live action anymore
Gatekeeping mediums. That’s crazy
@@Im.Smaher You're joking right? Because he's not gatekeeping anything lol that's not even what gatekeeping means
I love how they incorporate Ekko's time rewind powers without actually giving him those powers.
Its a hextech device actually,not powers at all
@@ronaldbenitez7714 Hextech means: Magic through technology. So it is powers at will.
EDIT 2: please read my edit before replying to this comment saying “omg you’re right that’s so cool” or “omg you’re wrong that’s so dumb”
EDIT: There have been a few replies to this pointing out that I misinterpreted the S1E4 scene with Ekko's stopwatch. Indeed, Ekko explicitly says they have five minutes and starts the stopwatch at the beginning of the scene, which makes it clear he was just checking the time and had probably not used any time-travel abilities in the fight. With this in mind, I think my interpretation is MUCH, MUCH weaker. Although the S1E4 scene was not at the heart of my argument, I think my interpretation of the bridge scene only works if the S1E4 scene was otherwise unexplained. Thus, I want to make it clear that I don't think there's a strong argument anymore that Ekko has his powers in S1.
ORIGINAL COMMENT:
So I think there's a really compelling argument that Ekko does actually have his powers in the show. The first hint is in S1E4 at 10:04. When Ekko's pink-haired companion gets fatally shot by Jinx, he rushes to the girl's aid and, stooped over her body, he desperately looks at his pocket watch. You can see the watch slowly filling red, which is the device charging back up (his cooldown timer). Ekko realizes that because he already used it during this battle, he doesn't have the opportunity to save his friend, so he flies into a fit of rage and charges Jinx.
During the battle on the bridge, notice that there are brief moments where the animation flashes away from young Ekko and shows older Ekko dodging bullets. Then, at the end, young Ekko throws the watch on the ground after getting shot, but then it rewinds to the beginning of the present day fight. Present day Ekko actually got shot square in the chest, just like when he was a kid playing the game with Powder. The difference is that in the present day, instead of throwing the watch down in defeat, he uses it to rewind time and tries again.
The scene is stylized the way it is for multiple reasons: it increases the emotional weight of the scene, calls attention to the history between Ekko and Powder, and looks straight up badass. But it serves another purpose: to apply some level of ambiguity. Riot's animators know there will be plenty of people watching who don't know a thing about LoL, so they won't already know that time travel is even possible in this world. By keeping the whole thing slightly ambiguous, they can have Ekko use his power in a way which is noticeable for people "in the know," but which also saves the surprise for people who otherwise would never pick up on it.
I anticipate S2 will show Ekko using his powers more explicitly as some big, cool knowledge bomb, but I'm pretty sure he's had it for a while by the time we get to S1E4
@@HoneyBadgerLikesYou problem with that is, even when rewinding time he still has the injuries. so that theory is a bit murky.
@@MrMCDERPINGTON that drawback only happens when his Z-drive breaks
My favorite part about this scene is the fact that it illustrates a key truth about both their characters. Jinx’s trauma meant she never really grew up. Ekko’s trauma meant he was forced to grow up. She immediately reverted back to what she did then. He learned from it.
Brilliant observation 👏🏽
oh shit it's even more tragic
tbh one thing that i simultaneously love and get terrified by is the fact that jinx and ekko (in this scene) are at most the same age as i am and they're both about to risk their lives because of all the shit and trauma they've been through
but in a way, jinx was forced to grow up too
Noice.
The ekko jinx relationship might be my favourite. Two two best friends that grew up without their family with severe trauma, now finding themselves on opposite sides.
Ekko had a crush on jinx until she get crazy
@@zari024 until she started to talk with her gun*
Ekko had his mother and father. They just were never home. There's a short story on Universe about his Name Day.
@@zari024 i think the look that she gave him right before she pulled out the grenade was a hint that she felt that way too when they were kids. And then she started talking to the gun
@@razvan8292 There's this idea that she's not actually talking to her gun. She's talking to her younger self. She named her gun Pow Pow... The same name Vi called her
two years later and this scene still has me in a chokehold.
Literally I watch this specific scene everyday
Best fight scene ever
@@AgonHexaI always tought so, till sevika vs smeech
Yeah after 3 years I can't get over Jinx's "suicide attempt". She literally wanted to blow herself up at the end.
Also the song is such a banger I listen to it on a daily basis
@@AgonHexa2nd best, the best is all of DBS Broly haha
Mfs really told an episode's worth of story in like 2 minutes. Absolute mastery.
It's absolutely crazy
if you need an entire episode to tell that little story then you are terrible at this.
@@twichytail Pretty cringe response tbh. Work on your social skills a bit
@@twichytail kinda cringe bro
@@twichytail bro u cringe af
When Jinx calls Ekko the boy savior it makes me think Ekko has tried to save her from Silco before, which just adds even more heartbreak.
damn I didn't think about it like that. so thats why he's so sure about Vi not being able to save Jinx because he tried it in the past.
@@satesate1286 I figured that was the case when he told vi that jinx belongs to silco. The fact that he put powder on his mural implies that she was dead to him. Or at least, he tried to convince himself that powder was dead to him
yeah. he probly tried for years and some one said its confirmed ekko had a crush on powder acording to the lore. so he would have tried hes out most
It's actually confirmed by the creators that Ekko tried to save her but that scene was scrapped.
Yes. And the fact that he saves other people too - folks who have been addicted to Shimmer or who grew up broken.
I like how the writers did not pretend Jinx could hold her own in a physical fight against Ekko once he got up close. She's not Vi, after all. And I love how the whole scene is not for its own sake, but also expresses how much the people involved have changed and how they feel about being forced to fight each other. Not only it's amazing to look at, but also develops the characters and moves the plot forward. Amazing.
@@rhone3659 Well, it infers that Jinx is slightly behind Vi's combat ability when she was a teenager (about 15 or 16). The question would then be if you think current Ekko could take on past Vi in hand to hand and win. I think Ekko would have a better chance of accomplishing that than Jinx would. Despite being faster and stronger than she used to be, Jinx is still primarily a distance fighter and Ekko is mid/close range
@@rhone3659 Like A. Johnson said, her points in that boxing machine were STILL behind Vi's old score when they were younger. While it is true that she has grown to a point where she can now hold herself in a fight, compared to regular fighters like Vi, who was toughen up by living in a harsh environment inside a prison, and Ekko, who is enormously accustomed to close ranged combat and tactics due to the fulfillment of being the leader of the Firelights, Jinx would have a tough time if they were to square up one-on-one. Jinx's obvious strong points rise when it comes to building gadgets and weapons hence she can wield anything at her disposal and would win anytime. But put her on against someone like Ekko who is not only now a phenomenal fighter, but also lived his whole life fighting to raise the Firelights, Jinx's chances of success would shrink down the moment he's in batting distance with her.
Well the writers did definitely mistake that jayce is an expert fighter, bro did not had any real fight until the robot scene but kicked the robots ass like its nothing
@@rhone3659 well to be true if you look closely jinx was mainly using her legs to kick against that thing
@@rhone3659 uhhh Jinx didnt even beat kid Vi's record. so no
One thing that i learned recently is that when rendering Jinx, the creators actually render her differently depending on whether she is Jinx or Powder. It's very subtle, but when she I Jinx her features are sharper, more edged, when Powder comes up her features are rounder, literally softer. In this fight it's Jinx who bantered, who pulled the trigger and fired on Echo. But its Powder who was on the ground and made Echo falter. It's also Powder who pulls the pin and blows herself up.
Two things is that true and where can I find where the creators talk about the show? And wow that just cuts deep within the show that Jinx and Powder were on a constant struggle with each other
@@matthewcastro2230 watch Arcane Bridging the rift, it’s on League on Legends youtube channel.
They talked about this in the video series "Bridging the Rift" if i am not wrong, they created a special rig just for her and with a single switch they change her face between Powder-Jinx depending on the scene.
Ekko is one of the only, if not the only character who knows Powder and Jinx.
The whole season the conflict is between Vi's Powder and Silco's Jinx, but Ekko knew her before, and knew her change. Ekko has been on both Jinx's old and new life.
There's so much weight between these two, and this fight somehow resumed so well, and while it feels like closure, I can't help but wish I could see more of them
Did they date or did he just like her is the question. It's semi unclear.
God bless you.
@@FeedingFrenzy91 I don't think they have dated, just him having a crush when they were younger is confirmed by the lore and such
I'm willing to bet it was somewhat mutual tho that's just me being a shipper
@@delicate1917 Based on their reactions it definitely seems mutual (Both kind of seem like I don't want to but I have to do this).
God bless you.
@@FeedingFrenzy91 They never did, an example of that fact is Ekko has a voice line in the game that says: "Yeah I liked her...until she started talking to her guns." Which states the fact they never dated.
@@minty1059 Cool, just wonder how Ekko and taliyah met though.
God bless you.
I love how you hear a ‘ting’ before the explosion, subtly showing us that Ekko did hit the grenade away, which explains how he got away and how Jinx didn’t just immediately die and was instead fatally injured.
Didn’t notice this! Thanks for pointing it out, so subtle!
Woah that's so cool!😲
He wasn’t fatally injured, he only sprained his ankle
@@SM-be5dh the fatally injured part was for Jinx, not Ekko
@@rimurutempest4945 ohhh
Such a realistic adaptation of the game. The ADC even stood in melee with an assassin.
And got rekt as soon as the assassin got close, sounds about right to me
Lol they did make it realistic 😂
The ADC cried too !
You're right, the assassin even closed the gap with infinite dashes while the ADC had no peel.
Then the adc flamed the jg for not ganking and /all x9 jg
@0:23 Mewing in front of Jinx is crazy work
lmaooo i tought i was the only one who noticed
he had to rizz her up before beating her
MEWING
@ 0:36 hah!
SO MANY OF THE GUYS IN THIS SHOW HAVE CRAZY MEWING STREAKS 😭
The song choice is just brilliant. Jinx called Ekko the boy savior and was confident in her ability to beat him since the flashes of them being kids was a game they played and she wins the match. There’s a section of the song that goes “everything I know I am you should go and save yourself, thought you had my number, congratulations, played yourself.” The song literally says what Ekko is thinking.
Actually they wrote most (if not all) of the songs to the scenes and not the other way around, so I'm pretty sure the "song choice" is not brilliant in its choice but in its creation. :)
@@koljarb5497 good info to know
Denzel curry op
She could technically beat him though. In the flashback, she shoots 4 times and the fourth lands on his chest, making her the winner. In reality, she shot 3 times and had an opportunity to similarly shoot him in the chest in the moment when he jumped, lifting up his weapon, but she didn't, or rather couldn't. We all know Jinx has excellent reflexes and speed, and yet she still didn't do it, same as Ekko could not keep harming her when he looked her in the eyes
@@moonbyulswife3990 I think he actually dodged the fourth shot, as he has foreseen that it would hit him
Ekko is the one person from Jinx’s past that doesn’t trigger something bad in Jinx’s mind (there’s none of the visuals that usually accompany another character when Jinx meets them)
Buen detalle. 👌
He doesn’t trigger something bad because he’s never stopped existing and ⏱💣
Great to know, i didn't need to be happy today 😭
She doesn’t have traumatic guilt attached to him. There were those who were (unintentionally) slain by her, and one who disowned her when they were both real raw from the above. Even if they’ve outright been enemies for years now, he hasn’t weighed on her head like an anvil.
Question: What do the crow & the insect represent in the background?
0:28 that laugh, was like a “how did we get to this?” or a “ahh… old times huh..” i swear the voice actors and animators are really making a masterpiece here
0:28
@@lilcamela7787 ty. These OG comments always gets the time stamp wrong
@@poof9327 Yeah sorry about that
@@kumaira_arts edit it lol
@@badradish2116 Done, but I prefer 0:29 because that is the PART of the chuckle or laugh I refer too. Not the full thing. Ya get me?
Ekko's scene being exactly 4 seconds just like his in game ultimate is Amazing
OMGGG
Wow. What a nice touch that I never noticed
The attention to detail via this gamer is great! Thank you, I didn't even notice
Nice
No fucking way, I'm done. I can't take another revelation of this magnitute. I'll actually go crazy.
The beat down he unleashed on Jinx and her violent struggle felt so real. Without the music, it got ominous so quick.
exactly im suprised no one talks about that part. easily the highlight for me! it's so well directed even with the tonal shift from scene to scene. it had me from hyped to tense so fast without even realizing it.
@@ilay_ux yea when the music cut and they were on the ground my heart sunk so fast, I thought they actually gonna kill each other
That's also why when he stops, it hits so hard, and I love it. The run up, hearts are pounding, they are in the moment. They are reliving their childhoods in their own way. And then he starts hitting her. And now we realize there was never anything bright about that moment. We remember the brief glance of Ekko's snarling face. We didn't really see two people reliving their childhoods, we saw a traumatized woman briefly re-experience a moment of happiness, and a man remembering her habits so he can put her down. Its brutality. In the last seconds, Ekko realizes that too, that this is almost going too far, he never wanted *this*. He wanted her to stop, he wanted this to end, he didn't want this to keep going. And he has to stop and ask himself if he wants to really pummel someone he used to love to death.
Its just unfortunate that Jinx never wanted to live.
@@scolkereybelPerfectly put.
@@scolkereybel damn that beautiful written man !
"It's not enough to give people what they need to survive, we need to give people what they need to live" - Ekko
Mahatma Gandhi
@@aadarshroy7303 - Michael Gary Scott
-Wayne Gretzky
That line reminded me of something i was told by my aunt, "its not enough to just not do bad, we should be doing good to"
- Sun Tzu
Realizing in retrospect that the reason he starts the timer is actually to time his dodges because he has memorized the intervals when Powder used to shoot. He's keeping track of that time so he can dodge properly. Powder never changed the intervals at which she shot. She's still stuck in the past. Ekko kept moving forward, so he is able to deal with her. She relapses back to her past. He can't afford to.
Oh shit. thats neat
yeah, weird af
even when he has all those time powers later, he still values the present heavily.
Another detail that reinforces the idea that ekko is one of the few characters focused on the *now* not the past or the future. Even the foreshadowing of a time power his one is focused about getting another chance at what is happening now and his name is also ekko/echo aka a sound coming back to you *now*.
@@pushupguy4696 That's why he uses them so well. He knows the value of time at every moment.
He’s mastered time
Best fight scene in Arcane. Love how they introduce Ekkos time manipulation, using a flashback to narrate a foreshadow. Genius.
Bruh next time all characters got magic powers lol
@@willg1088 hextech is different from magical powers, Piltover/Zaun is basically the one place in Runeterra where there's barely any mages, and hextech/chemtech reign
@@willg1088 Not all characters have magical abilities. Arcane even states that you are either born with it or not.
That moment of them both chuckling and immediately knowing what each other was thinking was amazing. Even more amazing that the writers put in a whole story of their past in just a few short moments
Don't forget the rewind!
"You can't just make a story in less than 3 minutes!"
Arcane writers: "You dare challenge me, mortal?"
It wasn't the writers- they didn't plan on the throwback. It was the animators who did it.
I just can't get over how tragic it is to have them as childhood friends back then trying to murder each other now.
@@manuwick3174 lol no it was the storyboarders
In 2 minutes, they showed:
1) Ekko and Jinx had a heartfelt and fun game they used to play together
2) Both Ekko and Jinx remember this game so much so that without words, Ekko was able to tell Jinx they will compete in that game. Furthermore, they both adhered to the rules of the game throughout the confrontation, as Jinx was in a position to evade and attack from another angle but did not.
3) Ekko has incredible memory, being able to remember a strategy Jinx used years ago and counter it years later
4) Jinx's facial expression after she loses seems to allude to the fact that she regrets fighting with Ekko
Masterclass in writing, animation and music.
110/10
Add more to the comments if I missed any
5) 1:31 to 1:49 Ekko won the fight while losing initially when they were kids. This could show a contrast between Ekko and Jinx. Ekko learned from the past and changed while Jinx did the same thing twice like she was expecting the same result. It might of been a subtle way of showing that Jinx is stuck in the past. She changed a lot but, refuses to accept that the people around her have changed as well and part of her wants things to go back to the way they used to be.
6) Also I’m not sure Jinx’s expression after she lost was regrets fighting ekko. I interpreted it more as her manipulating him so he would stop attacking long enough to pull the pin on the grenade without him noticing.
7) There’s also the crow and firelights in the background that could symbolize their personalities. Ekko being hope and life while Jinx is represented with an omen for death and bad luck like her name suggests. There could be some predestination going on or it just a way to show off their motifs.
I feel like this scene packed a lot and could have been read in so many ways, but correct me if i’m wrong.
Yeah, this is so cool. If this had been an anime, this sequence would have spanned two episodes and included four flashbacks and three inner monologues
@@kyoutasan3506 what does 2d vs 3d have to do with anything? I was implying that mainstream anime has a big problem with overexposition.
Another classic fight scene that was 3 minutes long in a cartoon and would have lasted half a season in an anime was the fight between Samurai Jack and the Shinobi.
It's not a bad thing to like anime, obviously. Personally, however, I dislike most action-oriented anime series because of their excessive reliance on exposition. It's like they've never heard the expression "show, don't tell"
@@kyoutasan3506 Yep, it is completely different: that was my whole point. In my original comment I never said that this trait makes anime BAD. It's just a trait I personally dislike, but anyone can like whatever they want.
@@ammonal244 what anime you been watching?
I really like how, once Ekko does close the gap, he overpowers Jinx easily. Really keeps up the continuity that her skills don't lie in hand-to-hand combat
I mean, it shows in her arms. She's not Vi, she's still a teen (i think?) and her hands are pretty slim. Good enough to carry weapons and hitting people with them, but not with your fists.
@@dumdum8538 Yeah I think she's 15.
@Hedera She's at least 17, according to one the writers of the show. They don't specify, though, but she is in that range.
@@raymax_1071 I heard she was 19. She’s gotta be around 17-19 I believe
Now they do. She’s basically a super soldier now.
One thing I love about this scene is how it subconsciously makes you more worried for Ekko once the flashback ends. Pay attention to how young Ekko reacts to losing. He’s visibly upset, that’s clear. However, the level of upset he is at-shown through his aggressive throwing of the pocket watch-is a very big reaction to what would be the first time they play, even if they were replaying for the first time that day. This is a play through many times attempted, and it’s clear that Ekko kept _losing._ Meanwhile, Powder seems so assured. Even at the start, it’s like she’s almost taunting him. At she end, she’s reacting like she _knew_ she would win.
Ekko’s frustration with losing and Powder’s self-assurance in winning subconsciously sets into you that Ekko could quite possibly fail this time, except now it isn’t a game anymore. Paintballs aren’t being shot onto a makeshift chestplate. There are bullets being fired and blood threatened to spill. If Ekko couldn’t ever win against Powder when it was just a children’s game, what’s say of his chances now when he’s up against Jinx, who’s more ruthless than Powder?
Of course, he _does_ win. They’ve both grown and honed their respective abilities. There’s been plenty of time for the winning favor to be tipped to either side, but even then you’re still seeded with that worry. What if Jinx wins?
Also that watch timer was an excellent nod to Ekko’s in game ability without actually having magical ability the game character has
She could kill him in that last moment he jumps to her , for her was a game thanks to the child mind and for him was a real problem to deal .
It's also a storytelling element. Powder (and Vi) are stuck living in the past. They are trying to reach out to something that doesn't exist any more. Trying to find their past selves. Refusing to accept that peopel change. Whether that be Vi refusing the accept that Powder is now Jinx, or Jinx refusing the accept that Vi didn't mean to abandon her or how upset she is over Vi moving on (with Caitlyn, at least in Jinx's mind).
Ekko on the other hand, lives in the present. He expresses throughout the show many times that he is not worried about the past or the future so much, but doing what needs to be done now. But... he shows he has learned from the past and uses that to influence the future. Thats what the symbolism of the wall scene is. "This is everyone we lost" yet also accepting she is Jinx now because she chooses to be. Something Vi wont accept.
And thats what the flashback is about here. Ekko using what he learned from the past to win this time. Jinx repeating the past because shes fixated on it.
I didn't get that at all. It was HIS music playing. He taunted her into a predetermined series of moments and she played her part. The scene never once told me that he wasn't in control. The past scenes do show his struggling but he isn't now. This is the culmination of his hard work and brilliant mind.
It was like the last step in the hero's journey. Cherry tap the villain and claim the reward.
@@spikevalencia6296 Actually Jinx had fired her 4th bullet but Ekko had batted it away. She was out of Ammo
The fact that the young Ekko's scene here was based on the animator's son just make this scene even more magical.
Not really modeled after but it was based on his child they used his movement for reference
@@smithwill9006 That's the word I was looking for yes! "based on" thanks! :D
@@victoriacaedo1626 thats the word you used in the original comment
@@ksonnyythey probably edited it afterwards
@@smithwill9006 this actually make a lot of sense the movements actually seemed like a child's they didnt over sell it
This scene had no right going this hard. I got actual chills the first time I saw it. Shit, I still feel the goosebumps everytime I watch it. From the "boy savior" line, to the symbolism of the firefly and the raven in the background, to the facial expressions, to the hinting of Ekko's future ability, to the choreography and animation, and to the hesitation at the end. It's pure gold.
Edit: Yet again, watching this scene because season 2 hype. It hits harder knowing the subtle backstory references from the game. "I used to have a crush. Then you started talking to the gun."
That raven is swain fr.
THE SHIVERS I GOT
İts not hinting at the ability. This is him using the ability to see how the fight would go so he would know what not to do.
@@thescruffinator8830 no he rmb how jinx used to beat him as kid and he changes his approach to beat her
@@duyplaystation you can literally see it rewinding. İf it were only a memory why did it cut between the kid and adult versions instead of just the kid versions?
I love the subtle story telling of their childhood and adult clothing. As a child ekko wore basically shorts and a tank top but as an young adult he wears lots of layers, gloves and heavy work boots, whereas Jinx/Powder as a child worse 2 shirts and a pair of jeans, but as an adult has a really skimpy shirt and really tight thin pants, it parallels they own mental and emotional state. As a child ekko was so carefree and welcoming, he would talk your ear off and tell you everything, he had no walls to keep you out, but grown up, after all the betrayal and pain, hes got much stronger walls, is still kind and welcoming, but not so naive to tell you whatever is on his mind. Jinx is the opposite, as a child she was so timid and scared and shy, only showing her real self to those closest to her. She had really big insecurities and walls to work around, but grown up, she doesnt care anymore, she threw her walls away cause she doesnt care what the world thinks anymore, she stands out on purpose and adopts the name jinxs as almost an an anti-wall, a "Look at me and how open i am! Go ahead and try to get close i dare you!" A way of pushing people away while appearing not to hide anything, when in reality, the only one shes hiding from is herself.
Idk why but i see them more as teens and vi and others are the adults or am i wrong??
@@ohmywht1437 Yea, thats why i said young adults, I figure theyre somewhere between the 16-19 year range, so not fully adults but since theyve been so much they probably are more mentally adult than what most people their age would be.
Very nicely put! 👌
Not only is the analysis scarey good, it’s got 666 likes. You are satan 😳
You are just making shit up it's not that deep lmao
One thing that this fight does exceptionally well, but is present throughout all of Arcane, is just how raw a lot of the combat is, Ekko hitting and punching Jinx down to the ground has a lot of weight to it, the blood scratches and bruises feel real, and every hit looks like it hurts.
Yeah. Ekko only hit her 3 times, and they weren't really focused on, but she already looked like she'd need medical attention, and was bleeding pretty heavily.
And not only that, but just the silence when the fighting starts. So cold.
This may sound bad, but I love how bloodied and hurt Jinx got from getting hit in the face by Ekko. It cheapens fights when something so severe doesn't even hurt the other person, and showing that clear injury adds weight and a level of scrappiness to this fight. There is gravity to what Ekko is doing, as well as the attempted murder-suicide by Jinx in response.
You are DISRESPECTFUL
@@JaevhonDouglas what
@@ilikefood1 I'm talking About this Person's comment
@@JaevhonDouglas i know, how is it disrespectful
@@ilikefood1 This person Loved how Jinx was Beaten bruise And bloody
I just now noticed that when Ekko stops and looks at Jinx, beaten and bloodied, her eyes are grey like they were when she was younger, before she turned into Jinx. Subtle yet so very effective. Arcane is truly a masterpiece.
@Ramen I'm not talking about the pink tho ^^"
Also, the blood between the front teeth makes it seem she has a gap in them, like how a lot of children have teeth that still need to fill in. It was the blood on the teeth that made it feel like she was a kid to me more than anything.
@Ramen Jinx's eyes are always blue. Powder's are grey.
@@damobeck1 after this scene they turn pink. After shimmer procedures
@@mark_vs___ … o….k??? The Jinx persona’s eyes, up to the point where she gets shimmered up, are always a more vibrant blue whereas Powder’s eyes were always more of a grey color. The scene where Ekko is beating on Jinx is the exception because it is trying to tell us that, for just a moment, Powder was back.
This is absolute mastery. As soon as Jinx sees the clock she knows that Ekko is proposing to "play one last time" AND SHE ACCEPTS. It is not a stroke of one-sided nostalgia, but in that brief moment they are children again and having fun.
I have seen that many people compare this scene to Kakashi vs Obito, but in that case both as children and as adults they fight with weapons and assassination techniques.
In my opinion this scene has much more weight because of what it means the innocence of childish play, which both relive.
Who?
More than Obito vs Kakashi B R U H but it's your opinion so I respect
Masterpiece of a scene here but the context of the Kakashi vs Obito fight is so different, I would have to disagree with the comparison, they are unique in their own way
@@Posei77 Yeah and I really love this fight but Obito and Kakashi IS on another verse for me this fight has so much meaning
Your not seriously saying this scene tops Kakashi vs Obito? Chill a bit m8 nice animated scene still
This scene has to be one of the best storytelling scenes in all of entertainment. They could have spent 20 minutes of dialogue getting their relationship across and it wouldnt give half as much information as this scene. Absolute masterclass in storytelling.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the fact that we go from an overly colorised beautiful scene with loud music blasting to an overly realistic, dull, brutal animation with absolute SILENCE besides the noises of the fight, it is very uncommon for there to be no music or ambient sound in movies and here it fits so perfect and not many notice this great direction choice
If you want another movie with a brutal fight scene that's hardly Hollywooded like this one isn't, watch They Live, great 80s alien movie.
Squid game
Removing music from a fight scene and only playing sfx will always make it 100x more brutal
Is my boy ekko still alive
I remember how jarring it was to watch this scene go the way you described it. It felt sad to see how they went from childhood friends to this
There is so much attention to detail here. The look of disbelief on Jinx's face when Ekko brought out the watch (as if to say "really? to play the game we played as kids now?"), the light behind Ekko's back and the darkness behind Jinx's back, the sadness on Ekko's face as he hesitated, and Jinx's resignated smile before setting off the grenade. Beautiful.
The look on his face and hers when it seems like Powder might still be in there, and then she sets off the grenade. So. Good.
Yes! It's really the tiny attention to details that help make not only the animation but the series in general so phenomenal. There are so many shots in the series where if they were never there, no one would ever miss them or notice something was wrong. But their painstaking inclusion (every minute facial expression and every subtle movement) makes the characters feel real (and in turn bumps up every scene and the overall story). One prime example is when Silco is standing over a beaten up Vander in the warehouse, and as he's kneeling down he very subtly slicks/brushes his hair back with a hand. Like, that took time to animate. lol. And it's such an insignificant payoff individually, but details like that add up to make you forget you're watching drawn characters. Allegedly they used zero motion capture in the series, but I have a very hard time believing that if I'm being honest. Although it did allegedly take them 6 years to animate, so maybe it's true. I just hope they don't rush season 2. I'd be willing to wait another 6 years for something of season 1's caliber.
Also, there's a part - namely the slow motion part - where Jinx has her sights on Ekko perfectly but she doesn't shoot. I don't see anyone else talking about that but I assume it has to mean something too.
I'm really praying we get a flashback or something in season 2 about them, either from when they were kids or during the time Vi was in prison and Ekko probably trying to get Powder to come with him and join his team. They have this one scene together and it was enough to establish their relationship as one of the most interesting, I hope we get more
@@a_confused_spoon Do check out the music clip of Enemy (the theme song), it has some extra Ekko and Powder content
Seeing Jynx turn into a young Powder always breaks my heart. It's such a gut wrenching reminder that these were, and still are in many ways, kids.
I want to understand why people like jinx...
She's just an asshole who never apologized for killing her entire family and just went on for more madness...
Trauma is the lamest excise ever...
Even here she shows absolutely no remorse of being an absolute P.O.S
This world, and the toxicity contained within, cause a lot of people to grow up a lot faster than anyone should want them to.
balls are throbbing ngl
Jinx*
@@prabhmeetsinghk1351
She wasn’t an ‘asshole,’ she was a small 11 year old girl traumatised beyond relief; she wanted to help, she was a good girl at heart and had good intentions but made mistakes- she didn’t WANT to kill her family, she felt awful for it. Mylo and Claggor literally HAUNT her in the show, the extreme trauma for what she did created Jinx.
Did we watch the same show?
I hope everybody who worked on this scene is proud of themselves. Writers, artists, musicians, everybody. It's a god damn work of art
"I used to have a crush, before you started talking to the gun" -League Ekko.
This scene packs so much of their friendship that we didn't see into 2 minutes, and builds on both their characters so well, one of the best scenes in the show.
After jinx laugh ekko also say "Man, i miss you so much" in a very sad tone. I love how well they did to tell the fit the whole story in a 2 minute fight, but there s so much more to their relationship, i hope we see more
i used to laugh about the idea and hints of ekko having a crush on jinx before arcane because clearly it doesn't seem right with only league context but after arcane, ekko and powder would've actually been a nice pair
@@wolfyblueno, that would be the worst couple in the league
"I almost fell in love with you", slightly misinterpreted
@@Mr.freedom12-u4q I mean they would've been the best pair, but because of what she's been through, she's changed and I don't think they'll have a chance to be together again, for now....
The writers revealed recently that there was going to be a flashback scene to how Ekko tried to save Powder when they were younger, after Vi was imprisoned, and that said failed attempt (because she's Jinx now, she doesn't *want* to be saved) would be why he tells Vi that Powder is gone, has Powder on the memorial wall, and believes there's only Jinx left. I bring it up because with that context, Jinx's mocking line about, "the boy savior" makes sense: she's mocking his attempt at saving her from Silco, and his wince when she says it is because the sting comes from the reminder that he only failed because his childhood best friend was gone, and was happy right where she was. The context makes the whole scene that much more painful.
I bet that by "save Powder" Ekko actually intended to remove Silco from the equation and probably she was already too attached to him to support the former intentions, what leaded to an array of misadventures between the two of them (you know, a recurring theme in the series X-) ).
Woaw
I thought it was just aluding to how he is trying to rescue every person in Piltover and he felt bad that despite all these lifes hes saved he couldnt save his childhood friend
Soooo, maybe they deleted the scene to actually not let that "boy saviour" quote to just be linked to that event and instead a mock to everything ekko does to help people... Just maybe
The scene still works perfectly without it. Of course that does make it all the more tragic.
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f it alludes to all of that.. that's who he is.. he saves people places.. dreams.. after being completely helpless to stop his family's death/separation as a pup he dedicated his entire waking days to saving any/everyone he possibly could.. its why he HATES wasting time
It's why he saved all the orphans &the addicts that would come with.. why he saved the great oak tree.. &why he tried to save jinx.. someone he sees as his one true failure.. even though none of it was his fault
See, this is probably the best fight scene in this show. And the show has dope ass fight scenes.
If they animated this like the Vi vs Sevika fight, no one would have complained. It still would have been a banger. Instead, they chose to use this fight as an opportunity to tell the story of the combatants' pasts, as well as their futures.
Ekko gains the ability to time travel sometime after Arcane. The scene rewinding foreshadows that. More importantly than the foreshadowing though, is the flashback. Powder and Ekko have known each other for years. Ekko even had a crush on Powder when they were kids (based on ingame quotes). The paintball flashback scene shows just how close they were.
And it all culminates in Ekko doing a sick ass corkscrew and beating the everloving shit out of Jinx, until he sees that Powder might still be in there.
Fucking incredible.
Even if Vi vs Sevika was animated like this, it was still a waste of time scene.
Enjoy what's been given to you by a company that is loving you more than any company will love their customers. Appreciate it while you can and stop complaining about what you could'nt obtain more. As a Smash Bros player I find you very ungratefull, the PASSION is sweating from every pore of this show.
@@sherius48 Sure, doesn't change that that fight was unnecessary and stupid.
@@Ravnesss I assume you mean the second fight, the first Vi vs Sevika was fantastic and narratively purposeful. Not on the level of this scene but still good.
The second Vi vs Sevika has basically evaporated from my memory already.
Consider fact actors want 250 mln dollars for movie, the Animation will. Be future
This fight makes me want to bawl my eyes out every time. The sharp cut back to the present, and the fight being over within 6 seconds of it… It doesn’t give my brain time to forget that really, they’re still just kids.
This is srsly one of the best fight sequences in the series. Start it from Ekko's classic smug smirk all the way down to the background music
The music and the Tik tok of the clock, give me a gosebumps!
And the way Jinx went "ha" was so cute
@@ManOfPillowDoom jinx upped her cuteness and goth appeal on this one. Ekko's stances is also extremely badass with the lighting
@@Sabaelos yeah lol
I love how the animation goes back and forth between Ekko as a child dodging Powder's paintballs to adult Ekko dodging Jinx's bullets. Fortiche really outdid themselves with this sequence.
those last ten seconds were so chock full of genuine emotion on both their parts it kills me. like, i don't believe the wide-eyed shock to fear to softness we see in jinx's eyes is a tactic, i think in her own messed up way it was a "I'm glad it's you" because to her it meant she gets to die alongside a friend
Esp since her eyes go back to grey, no way it wasn’t genuine
If you're right, then she makes her suicide attempt once she's realized that he was not gonna do it.
definitely agree. this is one of the only times in the show she actually seemed ok with how things could end.
Characters shockingly don't lie a ton in this show. At times hold back info, but the characters are surprisingly pretty straight forward and honest with their emotions. I guess when EVERYONE has experienced some high tier trauma, you start to get a lot more honest and blunt people
i saw absolute sadness, resignation, a “put me out of my misery, “save me/help me.” i saw the true cost and aftermath of violence. the show is an instant timeless classic and masterpiece.
one of my fav parts of the entire series
Heyy love your videos, if only Pokémon had this level of cutscene quality lols
literally 10 episodes
@@somethingidk-rm7lb so lmao? It was 40minute episodes
Wait can someone please tell me where is this in the episodes I swear I don’t remember seeing this scene and also the scene where singed was talking to viktor towards the end?
@@patrickpatrick1024 im not sure prob ep 9
The best fight of the whole show imo. Watched it like 10 times now. That chuckle and turning into kids, just amazing.
My two cents: Ekko knows he can't beat Jinx at this distance, so his best bet is to close the gap. However, Jinx still has all manners of unpredictable weaponry, like the bombs, used to stop him or keep the gap between them far. So Ekko gambled on how much of the old Powder is still in Jinx, using the clock and the old game they played as kids, where Jinx would see if she was quicker on the draw than Ekko's forward charge. Jinx, fortunately for Ekko, reciprocated by reloading her gun and holstering it, signaling that the game is on. This time, Ekko got the timing right.
But it also proves Ekko's greates fear to be true. Despite how much he denied it, Poweder IS still in there.
His expression when when he stops beating her perfectly fits that realization.
Plays just like in game
Ekko tricked her in "playing to be Powder again" knowing she couldn't have told the difference. She respected the times of the shots that allowed her to win when they were little, not realising that Ekko grew up, and, with the same number of steps, he was already on her.
bha it's the principle of the game ??? You didn't understand it??? it's about Ekko who has a weapon to strike close and Jinx/Powder a shooting weapon to strike from a distance.
Idk, if Ekko thought that methodically he wouldn't have hesitated killing Jinx.
The artists changing Ekko's hairstyle from a mohawk to dreads/braids really flows with this setting and character of his. I actually think it suits him better than his original hairstyle.
Me to the Mohawk was a weird look for his hairstyle
Almost if not all of the design changes are better than the originals
@@bitbot9834one of the only series I’ve ever seen where every change was an improvement from the source material
His original hairstyle gave me hawk vibes from cobra Kai. I'm glad they change the hairstyle but they were about to me him have a mow hawk until they didn't like the design so they change it to locks
I mean make
If you weren't a fan of Ekko before, you are now.
been a fan since his apperance. #teamekko
@@uno9915 been a fan ever since darkk mane released the cazoo cover of his theme
Just add POV in front of your comment , then it's tooo accurate!
LOL
Been a fan since season 7 of league
I cant express how perfect this fight scene is, it perfectly describes how both characters act and feel. One thing that caught my attention first watch was how Ekko used the timer to piss off Jinx but instead it just makes her laugh, it perfectly shows how unpredictable she is, another thing is that Ekko remembers that fight when they were kids, and Ekko adapts to the mistakes he made. The clock breaking and all of the details about an hourglass on Ekko's character is also an ohmage to his lore in League where he has the ability to manipulate the space time continuum. Brilliant show, story, art, VA, and soundtrack. 10/10
2:08 You can literally see how he went from rage to sadness.. in split of seconds. This scene is wonderful, 11/10.
On ekko cinematic trailer, you can see that if he get hit and reverse back time
his injury didn't reversed and only the time
but in this show, he got hit by jinx and he reversed uninjured?
@@白キロ it was a flashback, ekko don't have time powers (yet)
@@白キロ clearly someone did not pay attention. It was just a flashback from their past twhich shows he grew up and learned from his past mistakes
@@白キロ their both reliving the past, it’s try to show that trauma has stunted jinx’s mental growth “, while also forcing Ekko to grow up, which is shown we learned from their games when to dodge, while jinx is still playing the same way as before.
Imagine the storyline if instead of backing away from the bomb he grabs it and hugs it to his chest in a final attempt to save jinx. yes dying in the process. Jinx/Powder already being warped watches as yet another friend dies infront of her.
If you notice, in every scene Jinx used Powder voice and face to trick other into her traps she always flashed that "gotcha!" killer smiles and laugh.
But here, she didn't. That face at the end was not the face of a killer but rather a face of a contented suicidal person. This is the only time where Powder briefly took control, she saw in Ekko eyes and she was disgusted by what she had became, the monster that every one called Jinx and fear; the monster that not even her sister and her only childhood friend (and quite possibly someone she has feeling for) could recognize and hated. In that moment, Powder hate Jinx with all her guts and she decided to end it all by pulling the pins. At least in Ekko eye, she died as Powder not Jinx.
Tragically, Powder did die but Jinx survived.
I dont think she necessarily hated who she became but she definitely was tired of all the issues,betrayals lies and death around.
For a second there she was definitely happy to just be able to be as a kid again and have a friend.She was happy to go relivinng her happiest days with a "friend".
You guys need to read between the lines. Jinx found hope after learning that Vi is alive, that they can be sisters again. She tried to kill herself after the hope was crushed.
Jinx and Powder are the same person. People change, that's what Jinx has accepted at the end of a season. She was forged by trauma and hardship, she can't go back to being just an innocent kid. Jinx also accepted that she and Vi just can't have the same relationship as they had before, because they both changed so much. Vi was the one wanting to fight the Piltover, remember? So Jinx now takes revenge on Piltover alone because she is a monster they made.
They aren't seperate people. Everyone changes, Jinx just so happens to have changed her name with the massive changes. Jinx is Powder, just all grown up and with lots of hardship. I don't think she's suicidal, that's very not in character. She knows Ekko and Co has her cornered, so if she's going out, why not take them down with her.
A lot of people missed something important at the end of this scene. Jinx willingness to die as powder when surrounded by her friends. She wasn't just trying to kill ekko with that grenade. It was a suicide attempt to free her of her guilt, her alter ego jinx and the visions of milo/chubby kid (sorry I forgot his name). That face at the end is a suicidal powder not a vicious jinx.
@@Gladiva19 Not really out of character when she's that unhinged, she has a death wish for accidentally killing mylo, clogger and vander, I can't blame her for that.
I see that many people don't realize this, but when Ekko hesitates you can see that Jinx's eye color briefly changes to grey, which she had when she was still Powder (in act 2-3 she has blue/pink eyes). The visual storytelling in this series is just immaculate.
Omg you're right. Look at 0:36 and then 2:02
IMMACULATE.
Amazing detail
When the music kicked in, i was unexpectedly pumped up for what was likely to be an emotional fight scene. Didnt expect them to cut it at the end when the actual fight took place, and it made it hit even harder. The music was symbolic of their past bond, and the silence was symbolic of the state of that bond now
(But seriously the beat went criminally hard for no reason)
The firefly is a symbol in Japanese culture that represents both hopes for the future and all the departed souls. The raven, on the other hand, is associated with loss and unending grief, but also, in Native American culture, represents deep insight, enlightenment, and knowledge of the unknown and arcane (literally, no pun intended). Ekko is driven to be a Boy Saviour by the losses of the past. While facing those same losses, Jinx cannot get over her grief, and it has driven her to darkness and insanity. And both of them are shown as both skilled fighters and brilliant inventors. So they both possess very similar initial conditions, and I imagine, in their youth, they had a LOT of things in common. But what is nuanced here is that, like with the monkey bomb, Jinx is pulling the trigger, causing this to happen. Ekko is just playing, having fun with a friend. He was innocent, still is to some extend. Ekko understood loss but built something on top of it. Jinx faced loss as well and proceeded to destroy everything around her due to it. Ekko builds, Jinx destroys (jinxes things up). Ekko winning here (beyond his obvious ability to keep trying again and again due to Rewind Time) is perhaps an expression of the writer's hope that those who build triumph, in the end, over those who endlessly destroy. What hurts is that Ekko obviously liked Jinx a lot when he was a kid. "I had a crush until you started talking to the gun." And so, as he is who he is, he hesitated at the end there. It's so...sad :(
That they managed to convey all of this without saying a word, on top of the music and the animation, shows just how much care was put into this show. Literally cannot wait for Season 2!
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everyone needs to read this. amazing
Ekko doesn't have the Z-Drive in this point of the plot
Ekko can't rewind time yet, it was a nod to his abilities tho.
All correct, just that the clock is just a foreshadowing and nod to the people who know LoL lore as he doesn't have time rewind yet
I might be looking at this real deep as an Ekko main. But from the moment the song started being the beginning of the fight till the end when Jinx blows up her bomb is 110 seconds. Which is the base cooldown to Ekkos Ultimate
that’s so cool, there’s no way that’s a coincidence. great catch
You blew my mind!
It's RIOT. There's never a coincidence with them ;)
Holy shit!
That could be how he escaped.. Since we never really got an explanation for that
Am I the only one who teared up when he hesitated 😢
well
the scene was constructed to do it to people..
...so.
He should have just murdered the bitch(not sexist, i would say the same thing if ekko was in jinx's place).
Alot of fucking problems would be solved with Jinx's death.
@@interruptingcow2418 like the joker
@@interruptingcow2418 yeah but this show’s better with Jinx
nope, i cried manly tears fam
Man, I keep coming back to this scene. With the music, it's an energetic battle of two badasses. But when it's quiet, it's a tragedy of two friends trying to kill each other.
I love the way that this show never wasted a single second of screen time, there were never any filler transitions or pointless monologues, they took the minimum time needed to convey the importance of the scene and made every second of the show an experience. I belive the sheer amount of time and attention put into this show will make it a pop icon for years to come.
Lets talk about that scene where imagine dragons appear. Thats the only scene they added as extra and a filler (also with purpose to the show but nor the story)
@@ImsexyNiknowit1 well dude it added to the return on Vi back to the undercity. That was really the point of the whole walking montage with the music.
@@antonhallergren588 yeah, but ID being there was unnecesaary. Im not saying it was bad, but that bit of them appearing was unnecesary. It could have been anyone or only just scenes of vi.
@@ImsexyNiknowit1 probably was one of the "demands" from ID for them to do the theme song for the show and since the two parties have a long history of working together (and ID was known fans of LOL) they themselves would definitely want to be included as cameos in the show and Riot would be extremely willing to let them cameo.
@@ImsexyNiknowit1 Actually, the fun part of that is that their appearance have a purpose. It happen a lot throughout the story, with either the jukebox, someone singing or appearance of place. ID is simply a music transition so the song wouldn't be out of place in Vi about to confront Survika
The idea of Ekko using the ticking of the watch to time his moves perfectly to Jinx's shooting pattern as she uses the same as Powder is not only brilliant, but also tragic as it proves the one thing Ekko was afraid of: Powder really still is in there.
lol
Umm, he's seeing the future....not just timing moves lmao. That's why the time scene at first he fails, but can rewind time and then gets it right.
@@vynneve no... He is literally just remembering Poweder's shooting pattern. Grown up Ekko does not fail, kid Ekko loses vs. Powder.
There is no time reversal in Arcane yet. They are just beginning to apply Hextech! Arcane does not follow League's lore.
Ahhh observation haki
@@vynnevethis is wrong. He doesn’t have that ability yet. The vignette is an homage to how his schtick works in LoL, but he’s likely to acquire it given he’s working with Heimerdinger now.
Ekko to Jinx in LoL : "I had a crush once, until you started talking to the gun."
Suddenly, this is makes the quote all the more heartbreaking.
@@Godzillakingofkaiju1 in legend of runeterra ekko says:"I miss you so much"
And let's not forget how Fiddlesticks says "Jinx! All your fault! All your fault!"
HOMEGIRL JUST WANTED TO HELP
@@maryhales4595 doesn’t matter what the intentions were, it’s still her fault
@@theamazingwebhead6453 yup
This scene gives me chills me every time. Might be the best one of the entire show, and that’s saying something
This scene is actually one of the most breathtaking moments in Western animation to date. Only one thing can match it: The Leap of Faith from Into the Spiderverse.
how do i know that i dont mess it up again?
@@AndereundIch _You don't._
Right. It's a leap of faith.
God, that movie is a masterpiece.
Don’t forget Ahsoka vs Maul from season 7 of The Clone Wars!
and The Last Agni Kai, which has such cool parallels to this character arc-wise
The look on ekko's eyes... "I would die for you". The look on jinx's "then die with me". A master piece, words that find the way without the need to be pronounced.
soy reddit
I think Ekko like powder but there is jinx
I think that's what made this show so great, the writers decided to show, not tell. They told a whole narrative with a two minute fight scene and there's so much left for the viewer to take in and think about.
@@SoyDrinker hahahahahahaaaaa
@@SoyDrinker Destiny is that you?
As a 3D Modeler and Animator. This is by far the best thing I have seen in a long ass time. The modeling team did an amazing job on the designs, and the animation department deserves a raise for the 2D-3D coordination. 11/10
Don’t forget the editing and sound design, This sequence is a master class for animation and film and it gives me chills everyone I watch it.
hol'up the entire series of Arcane is 3d?!
bruh I thought it was a cool looking 2d series XD
@@MarioFan-qe9ic It's 3d with lots of 2d paintings, effects, backgrounds and even the 3d models are basically canvases for handpainted materials it's very good and hard to make
@@oguzkaan2153 ooh ok. Its similar to how the spiderman into the spider verse was madr
More than anything it's the lighting and shading that steal the show
How fucking awesome that first season of animated tv series that was. Most epic drama, most tearjerking moments, most quite familiar yet unpredictable characters and their moves. A bloody masterpiece.
Love how the writers gave Ekko a tactical mind. He plays out the fight in his head in both the present and the past, knows how Powder fought in the past, understands what Jinx is capable of in the present and what he needs to do to get an advantage. Ekko then knows he has a narrow wind and puts everything he can in a 10 SECOND WINDOW and closes that gap!! That is genius level strategy!
It's also a brilliant precursor to Ekko's powers. His ultimate rewinds time so he can relive a moment and do things differently, and here he is doing just that, without any special equipment at all. Even before he acquires any special technology, this is just how he works.
There is one frame at around 0:28 where Jinx looks genuinly happy. Also the progression of facial expressions from surprised to happy to melancholic is staggering. This scene is outstanding.
I've read it as her going from disbelief to bemusement he's challenging her to their game again, then resigning herself to them having to go at it again and trying to shut herself off from the emotions.
I can’t take credit for this, but believe it needs to be shared. The way Jinx looks at Ekko as he raises his fist while she releases the grenade is a look of acceptance. Acceptance that she is willing to say goodbye to this world with the one person who never wronged her as a child and was truly just a lost friend. Loved this series and this scene!
I think it's the opposite, she's using her "fragility" to make Ekko flinch, and it works, just look at the sour smile she gives him right after, like she's saying "You're still a softie".
She does the same in episode 9 against Cait, she makes herself look small like a harmless rabbit.
@@night1952
Where did you see a "sour smile" ? The only smile I saw here was one of acceptance
As someone else said, she wanted to die as Powder together with Ekko. And she pretty much did. Since afterwards Singed did his thing and I imagine that's just about when she completely snapped and turned into Jinx, with no trace of Powder left in her whatsoever
This is masterclass of story telling, choreography and animation design all captured in a 2 minutes fight. Arcane is the best animation series I've ever seen in my life.
Im late but for those who were confused why Jinx didn’t take that much damage from the explosion, it is because of Ekko batting up the grenade for a split second, you can hear the “Thunk” sound at 2:17, its hard to find the plot holes here….
Nice catch
Actually that sound is the bomb going off, not Ekko smacking the bomb away. There's another scene where Jinx is talking to herself while setting off her bombs in frustration. You can hear the same sound just before the explosion.
If anything it sounds more like a timer just before the explosion
@@batalorian7997 I rewatched as soon i saw your comment and i can confirm its not, at first i thought i heard it but its a matter of fact that Jinx kicked it making that sound and soon after that she threw a belt full of those bombs it didn’t made the same “thunk” sound as we hear in 2:17, i think it is really most likely to be ekko batting it up with his metal pipe
And another one is with the bombs present in the tent where Caitlyn saw the fire, the bomb did not made the same sound, only the sound that is made from the grenade’s jaw closing and the high pitch ticking sound the bomb made before exploding.
@@nashnashnash8205 yeah i saw i that same scene too and was also going to recommend it to you. That tink sound is always right before the explosion. In the other scene Jinx kicked it right when it made the sound. Her boot hitting the bomb wouldn't have made that sound. Then we get the scene in the fire, again the jaws are the on the bombs make that sound just before it explodes. And on the bridge, the there are jaws on the bomb making that loud tink sound just before it explodes. The only time it doesn't make that tink sound is when Jinx locked the bomb's jaw on the belt and threw it away
If Ekko did hit the bomb with his bat or whatever (metallic) object, it wouldn't have made the same sound when Jinx kicked it with her boot.
this may be one of the single best clips of animation ever put on a screen. without any context, this scene would still tell a story without so much as a word spoken. absolutely insane
so whats the story? guy hit girl then go boom?
So whats the story being told here exactly? im dying to know and can't wait to hear what you say. ill be waiting so hard.
@@bigsteez13 guy and girl played game when smol, guy and girl grow up and now fighting, girl and boy have nostalgia game but more dangerous, guy beats girl but then rethinks, girl booms bomb
@@bigsteez13 two characters, after growing up, are fighting and showing major parallels to when they played together as children. They both come to a realization of how messed up the situation is and briefly revert to their childlike mentality. The girl then releases a suicide bomb (likely to kill the person she’s become)
There’s even more to the symbolism and visual story assuming you’d have context from arcane and league of legends, but you can understand what I said by watching it with no context and basic comprehension ;)
@@mystikrugburn8292 Could be. But their childhood memories are shown. So it estabilishes a link in its own. Along with the superb micro expressions, its a scene that makes sense in itself. 2 people with a deeply linked past ending up on 2 different sides. No need for narration, no need for further explanation or even dialog. Facial expressions and scenes with the characters back when they were young dictate it alone.
1:48 - 2:09 had me the most emotional when viewing this scene. Watching Ekko knock Jinx down and then having her pinned down as he beats her face while she tries to push him off really had me shaking. I couldn't believe how brutal this fight was with just the sound effects alone. And then Ekko stopping as he was about to land another hit only to see Jinx's frightened expression and he realizes what he was doing made me want to cry. Honestly this is one of the best emotional scenes in Arcane and it truly deserves all the praise it has gotten.
Most people instinctually do not want to exert violence on someone that shows clear signs of submission, even if they are in a fit of rage.
Even if it would be smart/rational to knock her out completely or even kill her, every fibre in his being says no when he sees her look at 1:59.
The fact that she probably was his childhood sweetheart just adds on the level of emotion in this scene.
@@plainlake in lol when in different teams one of their talks is about him having a crush on her back in the day
I feel like jinx could have shot him When he jumped and was point blank infront of her but she decided not to
@@kashthegreatman612 she raised her gun to do that but he knocked it away
@@kashthegreatman612 brutha just timed, read, and plotted everything she was gonna do. As soon as he got close enough, it was over
That explosion was huge. I think Ekko kicked the grenade away and that seems to be the reason why Jinx was able to survive at all.
Everyone’s talking about ekko hesitated to kill jinx’s but miss the part where jinx hesitated to pull the trigger while ekko was up in the air, she had a clean shot.
I was searching for that comment that someone already caught that which was so obvious
I never thought about it like that. I always thought that Ekko was just a bit faster and she couldn't get the shot off. Not thinking about the fact that she might've just not taken it...
I'm pretty sure jinx is left handed and he jump on the right side so she won't get a clean shot and plus that was slow mo
Nah she was too slow, shocking I know
Like jinx would ever hesitate 😂
@@FickleNFun yeah but we also seen her actually dodge fast attacks like that up close, she could’ve easily moved out his way or something but she really did hesitate cause atp she was still fighting with herself
this scene is the perfect example of how to reward long time fans by showcasing and foreshadowing Ekko's "ability" without actually spoiling anything to newer audience.
this is one of the most legendary scenes from Arcane. I loved the stop watch swing at the start and the silence before the amazing fight scene. btw FUN FACT: Arcane took six whole years too make the first season. shows how much time effort patience and alot of money into this. amazing work.
Really 6 years?
6 years Really?
@@GengUpinIpin yea
6 years?!?! No wonder it's so good! This season was planned down to the last detail, lol. I hope they take all the time they need for S2.
Well most of that time was spent on the styling and effects pipeline moreso than story.
I love how Ekko starting the stopwatch is his invitation to the fight and jinx accepts thinking she already won since she would always in their childhood game! Such an amazing scene! That's also what kept Ekko from being able to stop Jinx because he put his mind back to when they were friends.
I just realized how much pain there was in jinx's voice when she said " look who it is , the boy saviour " I think she felt betrayed by the fact that he gave up on her " If the boy saviour thought she was beyond saving then it's probably true right " was probably one of her many trains of thought.
There are so freaking many things that could mean it's not even funny. The one thing you can be sure of is that it meant something, and it meant a lot. The emotion that came through with that simple line was insane.
The creators said HE TRIED, he attemped to reach Powder and she rejected him.
@@xCoatlicuexI think what OP is trying to say is that he gave up too early. With all the hurt she got, Powder was hiding behind Jinx and that’s all what Ekko saw.
It wasn’t until that moment after Ekko gave her the beat down that he saw that Powder wasn’t dead yet and if he maybe continued to fight for her, maybe he could have saved her.
There’s a lot to take from the scene tbh.
I don’t even think that Jinx was giving it her all to kill him. Felt like the entire time she was goading him to kill her and to give her peace
@@John-to6sl Ahh, I didn't even recognize that moment of redemption. So his growth arc was the ability to question his certainty in his projection of a monster onto her. Don't get me wrong, she certainly acts like a monster, but with this soft core of humanity underneath, Jinx is an emotional wall built to defend Powder. And when the wall crumbles, Ekko sees the humanity he refused to acknowledge before. So that look of surprise on his face to recognize his friend, it not only turns into empathy, but guilt and regret.
I knew there was a reason I kept coming back to this scene, every time I do that, there's something I need to learn. I'll watch a scene like, 30 times and still be fascinated with it until I find the underlying meaning. I mean, it's also a visually stunning scene, but the emotional weight, and the juxtaposition of joyous nostalgia and brutal reality just hits a spot I don't thing I've ever felt before.
kock and balls
When you think about it, Powder knew what she was becoming. She knew Jinx was taking over and it was something she couldn't fight without losing: that's what she was telling Vi in episode 6 and what Silco tells her in episode 9 (something along the lines of "it won't be long before she realizes you're not that girl anymore"). It's what makes the scene where she lights up the flare so powerful (because that was Powder KNOWING that if Vi reached her she had to face the past events and how badly those affected her) and what makes her final words to Vi in episode 9 so heartbreaking. She knows that if she wants that relationship with her sister again, Vi needs to accept her as Jinx, and the only person who genuinely loved Jinx was Silco.
But here we see Ekko, who spent years fighting against Jinx, probably trying to get Powder back at first and lost friends in the process, who Powder knows for a fact gave up on her at some point, giving Powder one more chance. Maybe it was because he spent some time with Vi, but the way he smirks at her sounded like a "You remember how to play this game?". And she was so surprised that he'd do that, cause she knows Ekko was looking for Powder in that moment. And she shows him she's in there.
So when Ekko wins and looks down at her she sees he face and understands Vi was right, Powder is still in there. Ekko likely got to see Jinx's maniacal face during fights and most have gotten used to that, who knows how long it's been since he saw Powder. And the moment she looks at him he immediately realizes that he wasn't ready to kill his childhood friend, despite everything she had become.
But after spending years waiting for Vi, clinging to her voice to survive and having her for just a second before seeing her leaving again for some other girl enforcer is just too much to take for Powder. She knew the grenade was going to kill her, with chances being Ekko would have survived instead because he was on top of her and he could have still ran if he was fast enough (which he did). It seemed to me she was attempting to kill herself more than she was trying to defeat Ekko here, and she was smiling softly at someone who, no, didn't love Jinx, but ACKNOWLEDGED who she had become and STILL saw someone who was worth sparing.
It felt like a silent "I'm sorry". It's such a tender, sweet, devastating moment... and like many people say, this is where Powder dies.
And THAT'S when what Ekko told Vi becomes actually true: Powder is gone, all there's left is Jinx.
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Very beautiful
I need to save this ASAP best comment
This was beautiful yet so sad
I would just want to add that Ekko didn't run. If you pay attention at the end, just before the explosion there is a THUMP. Ekko batted the grenade in the air, saving both of them.
How to tell backstory, character growth, character motivation and put easter egg in 2 minute scene without using single line of dialogue. Pure masterpiece.
Man i can’t wait to see more jinx and ekko scenes in season 2 their dynamic is insane
Is it me or I can't stop rewatching this scene because of the great animation mixed with amazing music?
This is my 5th or 6th time randomly thinking about this fight and looking up the video on youtube to watch it again. No exaggeration.
I keep come back time and time.
And this is how arcane doesn't insult its audience, it just showed us what jinx and ekko's relationship and their childhood in just 2 minutes, it's crazy.
Well, you can also do the same thing in 10-15 minutes of screen time or even over the span of multiple episodes without insulting the audience either. It's all in the writing. Just because you give more time towards showcasing a relationship doesn't mean that you aren't doing just as masterful job as somebody who can do the same in 2 minutes. It's just two different types of story telling.
Although i loved Arcane there where instances where some character motivations or moments didn't hit as much because the shorter time we've gotten with them. This one wasn't the case
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The fact that ekko actually liked her in a "more than friends" kind of way adds so much more depth to this in that Ekko had to be the one to face her like this. It's honestly so sad because Jinx probably never knew he did, So this to her was far less meaningful than it was to Ekko.
wait, ekko liked powder like that? Where was that stated? Is that a league canon thing?
@yellowrain2062 Ekko has voice lines in the game where he references that he used to like/love Jinx in the past but whether that's canon in the show isn't confirmed
@@VindexSolis oh wow that's cool, I had no idea. So does ekko only say those lines when he gets near jinx in the game?
@@yellowrain2062 Yeah, the line is basically "I had a crush, until you started talking to the gun"
@@arminarlert5203 damnn. I heard jinx doesn't have any lines like that for him though 😔
2:05
This moment, dear good.
Ekko, with his eyes, clearly goes the realization that the girl he's hurting is the Powder he knew, underneath the crazed exterior of Jinx. You can clearly see the words in his mind through his eyes.
"Powder? ... Is that you?... It can't be..."
And then the scene changes to focus on Jinx, her expression clearly conveys defeat, and even embarrassment:
"Yep... It's me..."
Such a beautifully sad exchange that needed no words. Arcane is incredible
Bro You just have 2 likes?! Dude you're a poet
I think this is one of the best examples of "show, don't tell" ever. The amount of story they tell here without even one word is amazing
Honestly the whole damn show excelled in the show dont tell EVERYONE has theories and clues they want to say in the comment for every 2 minute clip lol amazing show 10/10
the writers never thought of the audience to be "stupid". as in they didn't need to give an exposition beforehand showing that ekko and jinx were close as kids.. they show it masterfully incorporating it in the present tense which automatically gives us the idea that these 2 used to play together. because not once during the series other than this moment we see jinx and ekko interacting closely but this gives it all as though we have known they used to be friends all along
I actually just watched a few videos by this guy Shnee last night and it's amazing how they actually did include little scenes of them hanging out as kids, like Ekko and Powder riding some spherical contraption past some enforcers while Ekko is flipping them off, or Ekko trying to show off his boxing moves to Jynx and then falling down clumsily.
@@gsgaming6976 that's in the Enemy Music Video that Riot made! It's really good and shows a lot of Ekko and Powder interacting as kids
The music video for Enemy shows more of these moments but I agree, this is masterful visual storytelling. A 2 minute scene with no words spoken shows us how close they were, how Ekko is a tactical mastermind (timing his dodges), how Jinx is stuck in her traumatic past while Ekko used his trauma to create a better present, how both of them still care for eachother and it even incorporates Ekkos rewind powers without actually giving them to him - "show, don't tell" at its finest.
I always liked Ekko's story, his character, his abilities, his themes, basically everything. This made me loved him even more. Goddamn! This is so good
I can't believe how well written Ekko is in an already incredible show. From his growing up, his fighting, his community, everything about him... It's like he had his own story completely absent of the one we're seeing. Like there's a 'show' where Vi and Jinx are side characters in Ekkos story just like Ekko is a side character in Vi and Jinx's
At the end of act 1 everyone who Ekko was shown to care about is either dead or no longer in his life. I think a great scene for season 2 could be a rematch between Ekko and Jinx where Ekko tells Jinx that when she decided to go with Silco, she was the one who actively abandoned him. It would be a powerful scene because Jinx sees herself as being abandoned by Vi, but she probably doesn't realize that she did the same to Ekko and that he likely has trauma similar to her own because of it.
Not happening imo. You dont fight with your explosive expert when war is comming. Hope for Ekko-Vi fight tho.
@@Vry9 Well the show is foreshadowing Ekko getting some sort of time travel capabilities, so I'd say that evens things out.
@@simonn611 i know lore. Somthing can happen but i can see him focusing in acctual war not in Jinx. I just hope for some small interaction plus Vi- Ekko fight would be also epic, plus Victor vs Jace. Depend how far they want to go. I think in s2 will be more Ekko and Vic plus Orianna, Warwick. Silco is dead so maybe Corina will made aperance also. I wish Renta but Corina is more possible imo. Also i think that Noxus will make bigger aperance in s2. Noxus 100 % will want to make some bigger influence in 2 cities. Sory for my English.
not gonna bc .... after silco death powder was gone. actually for season its only jinx there is nomore powder. And Jinx in the Lore dont give a shit . she is just after cait and vi and destrustion
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What I love about the ending is that Jinx didn't throw the gernade on the ground to kill Ekko, she threw it because for that brief moment she saw what she had become and wanted to end her life, she knew Ekko would get out alive but she didn't want too, because for that one moment Powder was there and Powder hated all the things Jinx had done, so Powder didn't think she desevered to live. The thing is, Jinx had fought for so long to get rid of Powder that she actually conviced herself and Ekko, that Powder was dead. For me, it was clear that Ekko was in denial, and would say or do anything to convince himself that Powder was really gone forever, so that is would be easier for him to kill her, but for that one moment Ekko saw Powder again and wasnt ready to kill Powder. So when she threw the gernade on the ground it wasn't a cliche of, "If I go down, You go down with me." It was more of a, " I know you will make it out alive but I don't want too, So if this is it for me, I want the last face you see of me to be Powder."
I don't see it as Power thinking she doesn't deserve to live so much as Power being way more scared of being Jinx than of being dead.
They're not separate people really though. She pretends she's a different person so she doesn't have to own up to her mistakes. She had a moment here though where she couldn't deny who she was, and the despair of hurting so many people accidentally and on purpose made her suicidal. Then when she comes back after being experimented on, she decides to live on as a terrible person because she doesn't think she can be a good one (or rather she thinks if she accidentally hurts people again Vi will abandon her again, so she gives up instead of trying).
With her finger after she pulls the grenade she pushes it ever so slightly away from ekko
I quite like how they show the exact moment he used to fail as a kid and contrasts it with the new maneuver he learned as an adult that helped him win. Instead of doing some kind of silly training montage or monologue about how he got stronger, they showed that he has been training his acrobatics using their play fights as references. Big Ekko do the flip.
In my opinion this scene is when Powder truly dies.
Because when she looks at Ekko she is ready to let go, ready to give it up and stop trying and actually find some moment of redemption in her death.
But Silco saved her, and damned her, his intent was good, but he destroyed Powder and made Jinx into the monster she became.
In the end, Ekko may be the only one that can still find some part of her left, but he probably wont look for it anymore.