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It's so funny you think cops can say fighting words and get in trouble like they are CIVIES... COP CUCKS ARE SO FUNNY
My final rights! I'm fixing to get BLM up in here to show all Y'all
You should rethink that B for Sims. He could've got that guy killed by his actions
Then what's the point if you own property and you have no say what's the point in following the law if you have no legal Authority on your own property what's the point in following any law
"...he failed to invoke his right to remain silent..." Quite possibly the understatement of the year on this one. 😂
First reply!!!!
Someone is going to try to talk about how i had time to say that welp i beat u to it bud
@@rockstargemini4678 i was first but mine got deleted. Nube
You know when your laws fail if they don't prevent events and you know that as a country you fail if idiots like Mr. Justice even have a remote right to address it's fighters, who have the legal obligation to see what happens and have all the rights to extinguish a fire if they find it to be necessary.
The aggressive vocal behaviour would in every other country in the world be the reason to arrest such person.
It's distracting from a pretty complicated job as extinguish fires, and since he clearly did not want to reason and deliberately obstructing any de-escalation trick, he should be kept responsible for waisting time of EMS.
Sure.... The regular nitwits here will argue amendments and court cases from 1949, but the reality is that the entire system of justice is failing in the US, for decades!!!!
Freedom of speech, freedom, privacy etc are not words in a dictionary or law...
These are norms and values. Once youwant to use these these words you must realise that anyof them comes with responsibility.
Ignoring this means a lack of respect.
And hey 🙄 we all know about respect in the US.
De-escalation is communication.
Communication is a 2 way system.
Mr. Justice appears to be on a one way road....
Very sad... Especially the insult towards fire fighters. Can't wait to see Mr. Justice somehow desperately needing assistance, where a property owner refuses them right of way so they have to go on a 10 minute detour...
See if his mouth can stop then for 5 minutes.
Disgusting behaviour a a double F for Mr. Justice for not willing to cooperate straight from the beginning with a service ready to rescue 24/7.
They are not security staff or police officers who regularly commit crimes.
Haven't heard of a country yet where the population can behave in a disgusting mannerlike this without being removed from the premises.
Another amazing video of a country failing in nearly every aspect of life you can imagine....
Unbelievable! 😒
💀💀💀
Never in the history of calamity has the phase "calm down" ever calmed down the situation.
Yeah, I find if you're wanting to remind someone to check themselves, a good, "Woah, come on now." or, "Really?" with an appropriately confused look gets most people who aren't _already_ flipping out to not flip out.
"Calm down" is like, at best a trigger to test _if_ they're going to flip out more than a good way to remind someone to check it...
@@ashkebora7262 I like to use "Alright, go easy, go easy." Usually let's them know you realize they are upset but you also need them to bring it down a notch or 2.
If you follow it up with an explanation of what you are trying to do or an overview of the situation for clarification, it tends to reassure that they are being heard so they don't find it necessary to flip out or yell and brings everyone to a equal level. Just in my experience
Please edit comment and add “relax”. Damn that word just adds fire - absolutely nuclear mushroom cloud rage.
🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣
That’s why you say “summer Donna” or “simmer dean”
"I'm gonna tell you once to calm down."
"I'm gonna tell you once to calm down."
"Let it go - I got this" - Now available on iTunes.
Overall I’m giving the officer a pass on this one. Not only did he tell the truth of the encounter to his supervisor and not try to downplay his involvement in the escalation but he owned up to his handling of the situation and apologised.
@@westbrick1118 only because of the video
@@westbrick1118 He knew it was all recorded and went into damage limitation mode. The fact he lost his shit so easily and then made childish, thuggish remarks like any time makes him unfit for purpose. He knew that a member of the public had a recording that could severely damage his career, So how can you say he owned up to his handling of the situation or think that his apology was sincere?
black love rejected
I think this is the 2nd time I have seen a video out of the hundreds I have seen where the officer accepts responsibility and apologizes. I am glad that he admitted he lost his cool. That is the actions of a man.
@piotrekjerzynski3435 when you are able to write English properly and with proper spelling , I won't try to decipher what you wrote.You're almost there 😂Keep trying!
Geeeeeze... lots of hot tempers and nasty egos coming to head
I think this man is fucking absolutely insane. Granted, do what you got to do to get free payday I guess.
Policing is a stressful job. A minor loss of composure is to be expected (though still wrong.) I respect how the officer manned up and told the truth. It feels so rare these days for anyone, law enforcement or civilian, to just own up to their words and actions. That was the amazing aspect of this video to me:
Cop tells truth.
He should get extra credit for that
Welcome to Takoma Park Maryland. I may have been born there, but I'm suuuuper glad I don't live there
@@brianprinty112 Right! I accept people make mistakes, especially during heated encounters, so I tend more towards judging people on how they address the mistake. Owning up, acknowledging the mistake and apologising puts that cop high on my list for respect. As you say, it's rare, the prevailing zeitgeist is obfuscate, distract and divert..... hence the current collapse of western society.
@@smilebehappy6102 It is ridiculous to use the whole dept for this, and that's probably why the officer is saying it's all good. But if the fire dept was called they are legally obligated to respond. I think if the fire captain would have explained this, it would have diffused the situation. Of course, any time he tried to talk the officer started swinging his dick before 3 words were out, so hey. Guess things are tame enough in Maryland that public servants gotta go looking for drama to stay entertained.
Prof. Audit must've gotten laid before handing out these grades lol, I was bracing for the triple F
I think it's a good idea to save the Fs for when people get hurt. In the end, this all boiled down to a few guys yelling at eachother. The Bs were higher than I expected though lol
Well, I mean the guy does own his private property.
@@AdmiralKnight for when people get hurt? So giving a cop a passing grade for what to me seemed like wanting to fight a civilian is the exact opposite of the type of emotional control ANY cop should have in this job. It's exactly these type of cops who can't control their emotions who end up policing with their ego and trampling on people's rights. But according to you, I guess disregarding rights is passable so long as the cop doesn't "hurt" the person...
@@darktheories1758 But he didn't trample on his rights. He shouted at him for a while then apologized and left. Lets put it this way. Say the officer decided to arrest him, and maybe rough him up a bit. That's an obvious F right? But that would be MUCH worse than what happened in this video, and I don't think it makes sense to grade them as being the same. As I said though, I think the B was too high.
The grades were actually pretty reasonable, they were just yelling at each other. Nothing that bad.
This is one of the best police officers I’ve seen on this channel. Not because he was perfect, but because when he lost his temper he didn’t try and arrest or assault someone under cover of his job, he simply got angry and had an argument with them man to man, albeit with some threats. Like a normal human being and not an egotistical police officer. And then to immediately apologise and confess his actions to a superior in front of the person he’d just had an issue with. I hope he went away and had some proper time to calm down
The problem with the cops threats is what happens when someone takes his threats serious? I don't let people just threaten me especially when they got a gun
@Occam’s Razor lose* your moms loose….
@Occam’s Razor in this case the cop was right, and also the fire fighter, the was non-sense and aggressive, and provocations for NO REASON
Horrible police officer for sure! OP is swallowing a boot apparently. this is definitely not how police should ever handle themselves. This guy is a loose cannon and it's not hard to think of what he'd be like off cameras and away from any witnesses.
The "anytime" thing was bad, but I do think he's an honest guy because he did simply walk away
Mr. Justice went crazy. Something that was totally avoidable.
We didn't see what happen before the camera was turned on.
@@faervas1234 dude is like that in so many of his videos, so I'm gonna take a swing here and say that the context before filming is irrelevant.
Standing up for your rights is crazy!??? Damn that boot must taste good to you people!
If he had just changed his tone the situation would have been much more peaceful.
@@mattglasgow4383 so constitutional rights are only allowed if your tone is agreeable!?? SMH. It would have been a peaceful situation if the firefighter and police were willing to follow the law and constitution. The guy trying to protect his rights was definitely in the right here. You must be one of those boot swallowers
"Imma show you how to do it with a pen!" Best slogan I've heard all year!
Jesus Christ is God
Well it's not really a slogan but we get what you meant.
That’s what I was thinking…Well said.
@Brendan McMahon
Jesus Christ is The everlasting Father
@Brendan McMahon Neither are real or anything. What is either of your points.
I'm the training Captain at my FD. I preach to the crews about respecting people's Constitutional rights!
All of our officers are pretty level headed, and we haven't had any issues, but I think I may show this video at the next training. If nothing else, simply to reinforce the standard we have in place.
My dad was Capt at our station for 40yrs & there was def a better way to have handled this. Living in rural MD, there are places here that ppl legal have burns much larger. Idk if there is a city ordnance against a contained fire in a commercial area, but even then he still could have handled this much better. I will say though Mr. Justice for "knowing his rights" doesn't obviously know them all of he has to escalate so quickly to them legally doing their job.
I agree. The captain and his offsider were acting like jerks. I know the type.
We all have egos and we all screw up, ain’t nobody perfect, is what it is
The captian could have tried to deescalate but this guy is full of shit and looking for trouble
@@Hohmies86
Totally agree. However, the bar is set much higher for those who have not only been trained in this verbal judo crap, but are also PAID to handle their ego.
My man lost his temper wayyyy too quick. This is a public servant who is paid quite well to protect and serve by means of justice and this is honestly intolerable in my own opinion.
Thankfully he did calm down but woah. I feel like this is how some people get shot lol
Entire class gets F.
Leave the Fs for serious violations, not for just being assholes
Completely disagree. Their actions could have easily led to a physical altercation.
@@__-vo7iq this isn’t random people in a parking lot these are public servants.. they need to de escalate not escalate
@@Als_Attic989 public servants acting and threatening like thugs. Not fit for duty.
@@LabMatt This wasn't being an asshole. This was abuse of authority. F is warranted, because this was just a half a step from a F-. Like LionsBe Tryin, the cop ESCALATED the situation. It was only during the process of his boss getting involved did he start to change his demeanor.
And by the way D for the second cop on the scene for not trying to deescalate the situation.
Dang, I hope Mr. Justice never has a fire on his property
... and all his paperwork/licenses are in order!
I hope he has a fire and they don't help him. Fuck that dude, being hostile for no god damn reason.
Yessir!
I absolutely hope he does, and I hope the fire department takes their good ol time.
@@iananderson8363 it burns to the ground if they do or don’t get in a hurry…. Stop acting like they are Johnny on the spot.
“ I’m gonna take your ass to court”
- “are you threatening me?” 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
No, I'm not. But your donkey should be worried.
@@migueldelmazo5244 ba dum tsk
No I'm threatening your ass
There is no way around it. Mr. Justice is a jackass. Mr. Justice is confrontational. Mr. Justice at every point walks right up to the line of physical assault while stopping just short.
Dude got a B+? He was acting a fool the whole time.
He was protected to do so by the fact that it’s private property. He grades them based on their conduct of business and knowledge; not necessarily particularly “how” it was carried out. Yes it is a factor in a lot of if not all cases, but that alone doesn’t determine the ultimate grading.
@@panghor He also factors in the demeanor and behavior of the individuals, primarily because the behavior can escalate or deescalate a situation. He just is a lot harsher on the police when they behave like this as opposed to the citizens. I get all the legal implications, but shouting at the police until it gets to the point of wanting to fist fight isn't the way to go about it. His channel, he can do what he wants, I really do love his content, but I would have been harsher on him because his behavior made the whole situation worse than it needed to be. C+ IMO, still, we are all free to disagree and like I said I love the content.
@@TenThumbsProductions because the Police are suppose to be held to a higher standard than civilians
He should get a F+ then for being a annoying fool
I'd give him an A. There was no uncontained fire. They should have immediately left when they discovered there was no fire to contain.
Mr. Justice is kind of person who is oblivious to what it means when everyone they interact with turns into an asshole.
That means they were assholes from the beginning and not the professionals they are paid to be
Exactly! He will always wonder why everybody is against him and why it will get worse and worse.
There's the US Law, but beside that, there's other Universal Laws, which Mr Justice doesn't seem to have knowledge of.
Mr. Justice was very antagonistic this entire encounter. A lesson on how not to handle the situation.
ikr... Honestly, I can't believe he got a B+ after that... if he had a bad police officer instead of Mr. Sims, he possibly could've been shot (illegally). Yes, he has the right to swear etc. at the officer, but he really escalated and should've had a C+ or similar grade...
@@jffrysith4365 I concur.
Not making any excuses for the officer however that could have been worse.
im sure this comment wasn't racially motivated in any way, shape or form ;D
@@carsonapplebaum2266 Nope. I encourage everyone to act like an adult when dealing with the police. If you feel you've been wronged or mishandled get the footage, file a complaint, and get em in the courts. That is how you effect change.
Yelling on the street accomplishes nothing except getting views on social media.
Ya got it?
@@brianschlicher59 You and I can be objectively rational and agree in theory that your description is the most mature, socially responsible way to handle things. However, the world doesn't follow a specific etiquette just because you say it should, if you want it to follow a more reasoned and respectful course, you should embody that attitude yourself instead of using a condescending tone.
"Ya go it?"
I kept waiting for “Mr. Justice” to say “King Kong ain’t got shit on me!” 😂
He did have some damn good one liners!
SHOE PROGRAM
lol good one!😆
@Kilo Byte you'll be playing basketball in Pelican Bay when I'm finished with u.
Why??
This guy really caused his own problems. Lol even the officer was like whoa. What am I doing?
He called them all?
@@wildboar7473 is not very relevant who called them, the fact that there was a fire in the area grants the firefighters the authority to investigate and extinguish the fire, it doesn't matter if the owner doesn't want them there, he should know that
@@omi6816 ....so if a irrelevent "Caller" says a fire in your yard, They can come extinguish your campfire and hang around investigating, been a while but recall some mattering the Owner wanted them out.
@@wildboar7473 This scenario is weird, if the campfire is prominent enough that can be easily detected from the outside, it should probably be scaled down, however what can happend is that if the firefighter detects the fire, you explain is a campfire, the firefighter can either go in, but he likely will ask (he has the authority to not ask and just force his way in) to go in to verify that the minimun safety requirements are met, after he verifies that, he'll call dispatch to ignore any further calls about that campfire. On this video what escalated the situation is that the owner of the land is a complete jerk
The all powerful all authoritative *CALL!* that allows all; cops demanding ID with dozens of questions, if not Detainment and Arrest (/Beatings, search etc). "not very relevant who called them (angry 5 year old next doors), the fact that there was a fire ... authority to extinguish the fire," ....
Open Fire Regulations in the U.S.A. (by State)
Even in California !!! As of October 27, 2023 fires allowed in provided fire rings only. No collecting of wood, leaves or other material to burn is allowed. You must bring your own wood to burn.
Common Backyard Fire Pit Laws and Regulations. Most cities and towns allow small recreational fires.
- imagine, got a not relevant Caller and Firemen show up and extinguishing your yard fire pit despite Legal. 😂
The fact the the officer told him to stop, back up, anytime, etc, then Turns around and told his superior the truth and took responsibility say a lot. He didn’t threaten with arrest and try to abuse his power. Unprofessional yes, but that’s about it. It’s the cops that abuse their power and can potentially ruin your life that I fear more.
Cops don't generally start out abusing their power, it happens gradually. So this was probably the genesis of a bad cop. As for him admitting his bad behavior, he knew he was being recorded. I wonder what would've happened if he wasn't being recorded.
Nope edge only told the truth because the guy filming has made people leave the force, raised many federal complaints and is actually white sucessful in his actions. He alludes to it in this video with talkk g about taking it a certain court and "make you the next guy to retire" statements
He was a real one
Confessing to what's on camera isn't admirable, it's damage control. He didn't threaten Mr. Justice with arrest, but you can be sure if Mr. Justice started throwing he would end up in jail, or shot. Respectfully, you're an idiot if you're not fearful of a cop trying to provoke you into a fight while on duty surrounded by other officers.
Weak minded, way more scary than a physically weak officer
How do you justify Mr Justice getting a B+??
He is the one escalating the entire situation. When the others DID try to talk reasonably, he wouldn't shut up and listen.
Not to mention he started the situation to begin with 😂
Because it is his roperty and the people inside it refused to leave?????? hat d you do if you have three morons inside your house refusing to leave¿¿¿¿
I perceived it differently. The firefighters had no intention to explain themselves.
Why are they there to put out a small contained fire with no chance at causing a bigger fire? How did they know to come there? It is contained and the ground it wet it seems. They are either there to harass him, possibly for past encounters, or at the very least are wasting resources, maybe to keep their funding high in the next budget.
@@YURAKAPTIV The fire was against a chain link fence with fallen leaves on either side. Even leaves that seem damp can catch fire very easily, and once a few start to burn, you'd be amazed how fast it can spread. Had even an ember got to the other side of the fence, "Mr. Justice" would have needed to run all around the fence, by which time it could easily be out of control.
Where I live burning leaves requires a permit and you need to have a hose at the ready to extinguish the flames. I don't see any hose in this video and "Mr. Justice" doesn't strike me as the type to get a permit to burn.
_"Make me leave!"_
Now THOSE...are fighting words
Yeah they're very tough with a badge, gun and their friends ready to jump in.
It wasn’t the right phrase at all… however, Mr. Justice didn’t make the phone call, it was the firefighters. If I’m not mistaken, Mr. Justice was not in his right to make any of them leave until their business was complete. The firefighters were in their right to enter the property, and when met with resistance, called the police. Ironic.
@@FatAlbert1020 That isn't entirely factual. We don't know if the fire Mr. Justice set was lawful or not. So that's up in the air. The fire fighters came and put out the fire. Mr. Justice was pissed about that. The fire fighters had to stay to make sure the fire didn't flair up again, so calling the police is understandable. The officer understandbly is frustrated with Mr. Justice and the fire fighters because of all the back and forth. But once all of this is completed the officer should've just left the property without saying a damn thing. Challenging someone to a fight you know most people won't accept because you're a cop is a punk move.
EXACTLY! The last person to say that to me, ended up leaving my house... tumbling down stairs...
@@Lord_Bibulous the commentator said the fire was a legal contained fire.
Mr. Justice deserves a "F-"
Those unable to control their emotions and actions that follow will be subject to an incredible injustice
Well said
I mean he couldnt control his emotions but he definitely controlled his actions.
He threatened him, yes. But considering hes a cop, a threat is literally the least bad thing he coulda done. Such as lying to take him to jail, even if charges get dropped.
Though I'll always appreciate a cop that says "I'll give you the fair one, I dont need this gun and vest". Know homie from the streets.
@@Xeno455 If you can't control your own emotions how can you defend anything with an absolute truth? My right as a citizen and tax payer and lawful individual are not to be ignored. A good officer sees a situation and walks before apologies after the fact. Real talk.
Imagine almost burning a forest down and when the fire chief comes to investigate you give him a big fat middle finger and start yelling at him instead of giving him 5 minutes to do his literal job to make sure your dumbass isn't setting the entire forest right behind you ablaze and letting everyone be on their way.
@@Figgy20000 almost burning down a forest 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡
I think Mr. justice grade is a little bit too high. Officer Sims was trying to get the firefighters side of the story and Mr. Justice kept on interrupting over and over being very loud and rude. The officer initially tried to get him to calm down but Mr. justice kept going off. Mr. justice kept on escalating the situation just as much, if not more than Officer Sims was. I would say C- at best.
Lastly, why do you want to give fire fighters such a hard time? They are they are there to help, not to arrest or violate your civil rights as Mr. justice claimed
A hard time because they clearly didn't listen, the man told then that things were under control from the beginning, that should have been enough
Fire fighters in that area have been violating private property laws and causing destruction under fire laws for years. Breaking gates and even taking peons air conditioners out and entering homes, where there was no fire. This fire was in a fire pit.
As for Mr Justice, he was on his property, now with a broken gate, that will cost thousands to fix, and he was upset. His tone doesn't matter , he is a citizen that was angry, it's the job of the officer to CALM the situation, dealing with upset, angry, or crisis situations are their jobs. He didn't break a law, he was rude.
I absolutely agree with this. No way does Mr Justice deserve a B+.
If anyone enters my property I would be very pissed off if they refuse to leave. Whatever you say about the firefighters but they were asked politely at first and then they refused to leave the property, they know the fire was perfectly legal and even then, they extinguish it when it was already extinguished, so... The officer should have listened the owner of the property first. I have more authority on my property than a firefighter, what was the interest of the firefighters to stay on the property? That is called TRESPASSING, and it is a felony.
Who called the firefighter ? That caller was noisy busybody
A situation like this never crossed my mind honestly. Who tf sees someone like a fire fighter or EMS and screams at them to get off private property while fulfilling their duty? Some people can't be helped
....uh...because i too would be pretty pissed if i started a controlled fire and some tard came to my property unlawfully. (as said in the video)
the fact how he told him to be "Captain!" Retard just shows, thats the type of guy that wants to exert authority, not do the work he is supposed to do
You're right. The firefighters should've seen that a SMALL CONTROLLED fire that IS BEING WATCHED in a barrel on a rainy day on asphalt with no flammable materials within 60ft SHOULD'VE realized they are being dumb...
shouldve just gotten off his property
@@jamesseeker1538 is 100% their call though, if someone called them because at some point the fire seemed out of control, is now their call to go in, investigate and determine, the dude there should be completely aware and even if he claims is under control, he has 0 authority to do that at that point, so instead of being a jerk, he should have let them do their work in peace.
Right!
definitely Mr. Justice deserved a C at least. the dude was just looking for trouble from the very start. Some battles are worth fighting, but this guy just wanted a confrontation.
True. I agree with you although, it seems this isn't his first go-around with this kind of thing.
Without further context it's hard to say how much they harass him and how frequent he is burdened to file complaints.
He should have remained calm but there has to be an understanding that at some point enough is enough.
He, potentially, has every expectation to be angry. He also should understand that it won't drive his goal of them leaving him alone forward very well.
he didn't call the fire dept.
Who knows what he was doing with that little fire, but imagine you about to start cooking something and then they just come and put it out without a care in the world. I'd be heated too, then the cop trying to get the last word on my property telling me to gtfo. Nah you gtfo, could've been handled waaay better, but I get why he stayed hostile lol
@@Zadesniper who cooks something in a parking lot in rainy weather?
@@borrow4654 Good point. But the fire then would also be contained and that would favor Mr Justice.
Mr Justice should have a B solid at highest. He constantly had an aggressive attitude, refused to listen to reason or explanations from either of the men, and was just an ass throughout
maybe and F with that condescending attitude
Id say C at highest
Being on your own private property affords you certain asshole privileges.....
Mr. Justice deserves an A. He held his ground firmly and never came to blows, even after being invited to..
@@Rukkus333 yea but he needed to stfu followed to cop all the way to his car
The property owner may be in the right but he was unnecessarily being a huge asshole about it. I wonder if he was intentionally trying to get a pay day of this...
Being an asshole is not against the law, but trespassing is, lol. And he's not supposed to be trained to carry such interactions, but officers are.
They couldn’t even explain their right to be there because of the resident yelling and screaming at them, and not listening.
This is nothing that forces you to use nice words. If you have thin skin and get triggered easily, you should not be in public service.
@@wolfenstien13 agreed- but the legality of his actions doesn't mean he's not an asshole!
@@wolfenstien13 Common courtesy for a fellow human being? For God’s sake.
Damn Officer Sims v. Mr. Justice is a true boxing match I want to see.
Seriously!!!
I got all my money on Sims... I don't want to watch a old feller get a savage beat down but if it's going to happen I may as well bank roll off of it... hell id even tip the old feller a percentage out of nothing more than feeling dirty for watching him get rocked. lol
I will never call a man who tries to bully another man Mr. He neither earned that title and his temper tantrum in any other situation woukd have gotten him his ass beat.
Sure the fireman and cop were out of line but this child justice was goading them for what? Did he want a lawsuit?
@@wowihaveachannel4862 what lawsuit you are talking about?
We citizens can curse them and it's not against any law, if they don't like it they should not be in these jobs...
Bottom line: they are serving me!!!
I got Sims. Dude looks like an absolute unit
What a great example of turning everybody against you by being so aggressive. Mr justice has an attitude problem.
For real, this. Even if you disagree with the cop or fire captain...how does he think other human beings are going to respond to or handle someone screaming at them. When the cop is saying he'll handle it and let him handle it...just stop and let him. If it still doesn't go the way you want call up the court and make a complaint...but seriously I can't imagine a scenario where he starts flipping out and screaming at the cops and they say "OK, you right you right" and just walk away. That doesn't happen.
Totally agree! Sounds like he was trying to instigate an argument for content. Ridiculous!
@@kristinzazeski5725 It's very American to want people 'off your property', to push your rights over the cliff of reason.
You missed the whole point of this video it’s to make sure those paid trained professionals are just that Professional
Circumstances aside, that cop actually seemed like a nice guy. We're all human.
A C A B
His Hood side came out 😂. He gotta be careful to not do that while on duty though
@@adaircastillo4241 haha Yeah I saw that! I'm glad it didn't escalate beyond a heated conversation.
Yeah with some people even ones highly trained in scene management, you can only descalate so much until that fuse is lit. Mr. Justice just kept pushing its like he was trying to make something happen. Officer Sims fuse got lit but he knew to walk away thats commendable
@@randallcraft4071 Well said
Saying that you're going to sue somebody is not a threat
"I'mma show you how to do it with a pen"
-Mr. Justice
Probably the best thing he said the whole encounter.
@manny022 you must have an entirely different feeling about your own property than he did
@manny022 Masybe he has a problem with people refusing to leave his property. Jeez......
@@ponderoustomes9005 Firemen had a responsibility to investigate the fire. It is customary to wait a while before leaving an extinguished fire to ensure it doesn't flare up again. Auditor lied claiming he extinguished the fire when it was still smoking, and the auditor broke the law by not attending a fire that was still smoking. The auditor's "feeling" about his property doesn't override the firemen's responsibility.
@@1SCme Agreed
Mr. Justice has major anger issues. What a miserable human being.
I know, he REALLY pissed me off
Well if I was grilling outside my property and the fire dept showed up to check it out only to see I'm grilling a t bone steak and refuse to leave after they see its contained then damn right I'll be mad. Instead of arguing with this guy they could be attending to other serious calls.
Meh... they fucked up his bbq
@@Miguel323527 you don't get to decide what's a serious call. You're not qualified to decide when something is ko longer a danger. If you were you wouldn't have a situation you couldn't control.
And the law says you don't get to decide anything.
@@johnserino6 I suggest you read that again. It's not about me knowing what's under control. Once they see its contained (such as in the video) , then it's time to leave and get onto more serious calls. Hopefully your house never catches fire because if you get a fire dept like these clowns it might burn down for them acting this carelessly and prolonging their stay..
"LEt it go, Let it go" well I guess that cops like frozen
More like rambo
Lol
Definition if "Let it go":
"A dog walking away with its tail between the legs knowing it was beaten, but walked away before it got worse."
Sims seems like a cool officer, imo. He acted truly human and had a sense of honor. He respected Mr.Jackass’ request for a supervisor and actually was honest that he got heated. I’m impressed he didn’t just draw his gun and start arresting him.
WTF, his job is de-escalate the situation and he literally do the opposite. not because he didn't act like human garbage means he is good at his job.
@@Controversia101employ robots if you dont want police officers to have emotions aswell. As long as he appologized and stood up to his actions i dont see a problem with him. The Owner was clearly antagonizing him aswell as soon as he entered the scene
16:16 The property owner got a "B+"?? I think that's way too generous for a hothead like that.
17:06 "He may have benefited from invoking his right to silence more effectively." I don't think he invoked that right at all.
This channel is terrified to give a black person a low grade
Why do you have to remain calm and speak softly to trespassers? Yh it may be a more pleasant thing to do but if you come onto my house uninvited you think im going to speak softly to you?
I think the reviewer is purposely highly critical of the authority figure, and private citizens get a handicap when it comes to attitude, and ignorance of laws and ordinances. It's more a review on authority doing their job... then citizens awareness.
That guy absolutely was out of control. While he may have been exercising his rights he was still an asshole, and definitely marked himself with all law enforcement.
He wasn't an asshole, he was justifiedly angry. First for firefighters making a mountain out of a molehill and then for not even indicating a desire to explain the situation. They were basically tempting him to sue them.
Being an asshole is not a crime…
@@DocumentTheDownfall true, but it's hardly praiseworthy, is it?
What would you have done differently when the government destroyed your property to gain access to your property, failed to leave when you told things were under control, ordered others to violate your liberties, then called the police on you because they don't like how your are behaving on YOUR property, and when the cops show up, don't speak with you first, but the people who broke into your property to get their side first. I suppose he could have offered them tea, but alas, they put out the fire to make it.
@@Dowlphin In the case of fires a mole hill can quickly become a mountain. The dude wouldnt even let the firefighter explain the situation from their perspective. Sure he didnt break the law but neither did the fire fighters. Should the captain have stayed more calm? Yes. But the property owner was being a massive douchebag from the start and antagonized the situation. Everyone in this case ended up being an asshole.
@10:21 - "Ima show you how I do it with a pen." Man I want a followup on this.
ALL TALK!
All I need is a pencil - John Wick
I want to see a follow up also. 👍👍🇺🇸
Sadly we prob wont.
He will prolly go the private administrative route. You won't hear about it.
Even if he's upset, Mr. Justice is just escalating constantly. Definitely not a B+. Damn.
I'll bet the neighbors have some stories about this guy.
@@AreaCode757 - Not ALL credibility.
@@jpaxonreyes You're all babies. If the dude is preventing the officer from doing his job he should have detained him on the spot to be able to talk with the fire fights and assess what was going on.
@@AreaCode757 Nah, out of these Audit sites and videos , he seem to be the most honest. He doesn't put his emotions to the assessments. ive seen vids were cops were total A-holes, but they was in their legal rights, and got a fair grade. not an automatic F like others would've. I like logic over emotions.
@@AreaCode757 Nobody is perfect, man. He seems to be very fair. Just really wasn't expecting the B+ is all.
Mr. Justice, in my opinion, gets a C at best. HE'S the one who escalated it.
Somewhat, on HIS property he wanted the refusing "peaceful" Firemen to leave, the cop could of asked them to move to the outside. He did not invite either, wonder how you would react on a quiet guy walking inside of your house, no escalation?
He gets an F. He’s a miserable human piece of trash. He’s an angry dude. Talking down to people who risk their lives for us.
Mr J did not allow the police officer to even get started on his job before he tore into him. The firemen were obligated to investigate and extinguish the fire. I give Mr J a D-
Everyone gets an F, can anyone act like an adult.
Jeeez these this country has gone to shit
@Akbar Shabazz-Jenkins Exactly!!!!!!!!
If someone asks you to leave and you are already leaving just keep doing it don't get into an argument about it.
Yea but that’s a tough pill to swallow as a man. That’s what people don’t understand. If the dude wasn’t a cop, he prob would have laid him out. That’s what happens 99% of the time ANYWHERE when there isn’t a person bound by a job.
@@ITRIEDEL Yeah I get it. I understand the emotional reaction but that just means anyone can get you in to a fight by telling you to do what you are already doing.
@@ITRIEDEL We call those ego battles, if you can't control your ego not only are you going to get yourself in trouble, but you can hardly call yourself a man.
I had a guy tell me to get the f*ck off his property; I said "ok!" and turned & started walking towards the street. Then he yelled at me, "where are you going, you can't leave, I'm calling the police to have you arrested for trespassing! Now get the f*ck off my property! You can't leave, I'm calling the police!" (N.B. I was not, in fact, trespassing.) I turned around, but continued walking backwards, and said "I can't get the f*ck off your property AND stay while you call the police, so which is it going to be? Do you want me to wait for the police, or do you want me to get the f*ck off your property?" He wanted me to stay so I stopped where I was. Eventually he calmed down and realized it was a case of mistaken identity - he thought I was this other guy, who *would* have been trespassing just by being there. All's well that ends well, and he waved off the police before they arrived.
@@ITRIEDEL no that's what happens when people have egos... it has nothing to do with being a man... egos have gotten people killed. Just walk away it doesn't make you less of a man. It actually makes you more of a man cause you are smart enough to live another day and do more things to provide for your family or community...
Honestly this could have ended way worse all parties have excessive egos and completely escalated things when it was no reason…Everybody gets a big giant F
except the victim that owns the property that calmly stated his rights to the criminals, you can’t assign a grade to a victim
I think it was mainly the property owners fault I mean look at the common denominator. He pissed off three people who was most likely just trying to help
Big fat F
@@terellchapman8737 the common denominator is three untrained officials that don’t know any deescalation tactics, respect for citizens or the law 🤷♂️
That guy was a massive jerk to the firemen and cop.
Being calm and respectful can go a long way Mr. Justice. Fight in the courtroom not the streets. That's where you win your battles. I had a neighbor call a fire to our house. We were burning brush and cut tree limbs. The firefighters walked up saw we had a hose on standby bucket of dirt and in the open. They said why were we called and promptly left.
Exactly!
Dude could have been a little more restrained ..he escalated everything about this encounter
Only _A LITTLE?!?!_ 😂😂😂
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 true 🤣
@Gghhj Jjjj Right
@Gghhj Jjjj FD got called out to the fire they HAVE to respond because you know it’s there fucking job lmao
@@vexs4883 don't bother with replying to them. Their account was made 1 month ago and looks like their cat picked out their name.
You need to cover more of Long Island Audit, the guy is killing, getting assaulted, arrested, phones stolen by the cops and all sorts of stuff and he's the least antagonistic of the auditing community. Also, he seems like he is following through legally.
That's what happens when you are calm, cool, and collected. Authority pushes.
@@lmhitchcock6945 it really makes them crazy. He never escalates and the cops lose their rag.
He's the man.
Being the best frauditor is like being the least stinky pile of dog crap.
@@Ron898 got em
idk the "property owner" gets the F in my book what a character jeeeesh lmfao
You read my mind. Dude needs anger management classes.
I would give him a Z if it meant anything
Exactly! It’s just the firefighters lmao damn 😭😭
Anybody wanna take a bet that if the fire had spread out-of-control, Mr. "Justice" would be suing the FD, the city, the county, the state, congress, the president, the UN, the caveman who discovered fire, and God? (And did anybody notice the Jiffy Lube right there? Nothing flammable in there, I'm sure. What could possibly go wrong?🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥)
The property owner is the property owner. The fire was out before the firemen got there. Problem solved, get the F on outa here. What we saw was a gigantic Ego wearing a fireman's uniform.
As you said, the statue stated fire must be attended. It wasn't. No one was attending that fire when the fire fighters approached it The fire captain did nothing wrong. Fire captain Miller gets an A. I usually agree with you but your way wrong in this one.
Mr. Justice gets an F. The firemen did there job in a legal manner and should not have to put up with abuse from this moron.
Wrong. The beginning of the video goes: “Mr Justice had been supervising a fire, and when the fire department got there, he notified them it had been extinguished and asked them to leave the property.” Not only was that said in the first 1 minute of the video, there was clearly no active fire to corroborate that claim. Work on your comprehensive skills.
@@Sffker Unfortunately since the general public has NO EXPERIENCE fighting actual fires they are unable to make the determination that the fire is out. Nobody on youtube does either. It is the Fire Dept responsibility. When you go to work, how often do you allow a lay person to make determinations about your job? If you do and something ends up happening whos fault do you think it will be?
How long have you worked for that fire department under that captain
One time a neighbor called the cops on me, for having a bonfire in the backyard. I had a couple pieces of old rotten plywood I wanted to get rid of, so they smoked up for a minute, but it died down. The cop pulled up along the street, looked over the fence. I waved and he left.
lol really?
I bet you’re white
@@dondeal3561 different areas different regulations.
From what was read, this is illegal, and the fact it smoked when they sprayed it proved it wasn't extinguished.
Sorry, but I'm making room for a ton of evacuated people. I also have fire fighting family. I don't like idiots with matches.
“You’re a pee-pee doo-doo head!”
“No you’re a pee-pee doo-doo head!”
“I’m gonna tell that you called me a pee-pee doo-doo head!”
“I don’t care because you are a pee-pee doo-doo head!”
That’s what I heard.
When you pull the p word, there's no going back
@@Throbzzz YOU A DOO DOO FART 👌
@@alexrekzu4079 That's absolutely uncalled for.
I heard monkey ass when a white man said it 2 a black man it’s racist 😳
😂😂😂 so true
B+ for extremely escalating the situation, being hostile the whole time and screaming all over the place…sorry, but sometimes your rating is just bs.
Also giving C- for the firefigther for "remaining longer than necessary", just from watching the video. I guess he's an expert in fire safety now.
I’ve been watching these videos for a long time and have never seen a rating that I wholeheartedly disagreed with until this one. It’s obviously subjective, and I’m all for individual rights taking center stage, but this property owner’s conduct was completely inappropriate from the very beginning, and the firefighters stayed amazingly calm given the circumstances.
This Rating is complete Bullshit.
The filming person is such a big troll and from my point should be no higher than a D
Yeah. This is the first video I will skip 😅
This guy is looking for a payday though techniques smh
Honestly you should just stop grading. At this point, you’re too generous to all these crazy dudes.
No, any officer that is willing to apologize no matter what the grievence is to be congratulated. It is a very rare thing indeed.
@@velocibadgery I think the commentor is saying mr justice is the crazy dude.... not the cop
@@noblel6244 Mr justice wasnt crazy, he's just angry. People were trespassing on private property.
@@juniorrivera8557
P.S. He needs some meds or some shit, or else he is going to die from a freaking heart attack!
@@juniorrivera8557
Idk why this had difficulties posting, but I wrote a comment before the “P.S.” comment that said the guy with the camera is *completely and utterly* unhinged.
Methinks Mr Justice got a light grade for being the submitter, either that or the bit where he reconsiles with the officer offers a better closing point. From what we saw I reckon that's a C+ tops
So much respect for the officer for calming down and giving an honest record of events.
Bullshit. He only did it because his boss showed up. He showed he'll do whatever the hell he wants if nobody is looking. 0 integrity.
@@Cowabungas My, my aren't we aggressive... 11 months later...
He was on videos
I can see why some make the argument that he only calmed down because he was on camera. But I've seen so many of these. I don't get the impression that the bad ones care they're on camera. I think I saw a man lose his cool a little bit, admit to himself that he lost his cool, then be a man about admitting that he lost his cool. He also did not attempt to make an arrest, even when he was hot.
@@socallyopward7607 he's right though
There's something very wrong with this mr justice!
When I've been in the position of the fire captain, I've usually told the residents that open burns are illegal and must be extinguished. Now, if they had some hot dogs or marshmallows, it would be a cooking fire, which is allowed. The response is usually, "hot dogs, you say? I'll be right back." They return with a package of hot dogs and we all go home and everybody's happy. Of course, most of the home owners that I've dealt with don't have the ego issues of Mr. Justice.
Excellent add.
Lmao WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Maryland allows recreational fires as long as they meet a certain criteria and from the laws I read and ATA read his fire was well inside of the law. So, if you made this statement that would have been a lie and a misinterpretation of that law.
@@HoopLife313 Burning garbage in a carpark gutter.. (adjacent to a public wooded area). yeah, totally looking 'recreational'. The old ATA reads a great deal he wants into these videos. Doesn't mean it's factual.
@@HoopLife313 These laws are local and vary greatly. I was also talking about residential "cooking fires" in a back yard.
"Dissolved the credibility" is a key statement! In so many of these cases/situations that is exactly what happens. So many times the correct demeanor and some professionalism would keep these situations from escalating into unlawful acts!
To whom are you referring because the police and the firefighters are the professionals
I love that the fireman thinks 'threatening' to take him to court is an actual threat to his person
I'd give C all around. Everyone acted over emotional
Oh yea?! Get yo punkass comment off my phone screen. You'll be next in line for Greenvale! All the way! All the WAY!
@@afweadfawe8968 loves!
C? Seems high.
In my opinion, Mr. Justice deserves a "J", for Jackass. Could have simply stated that he didnt want the FD's services, and then RESPECTFULLY objected when they exercised their investigative authority. Throwing F bombs at firefighters is a bad idea, even if theyre kinda being pricks. And he REALLY didnt need to start shit with the cop.
f bombs are language, simply put.
Freedom of speech
How many times should he of told them to leave his property?
@@DigitalPadawan exactly. If you’re a conservative you got to be for freedom of speech 100% of the time.
@@maljones1398 Unless its insulting to a Police Officer of course. Then you deserved to get Roughed Up.
Mr Justice needs to get ahold of his emotions
Pretty sure the dude is just fishing for lawsuit cash.
@@mobilegameplaywalkthroughs990 he was funny asf tho
@@goatboi8823 For sure. It's hilarious watching people with no filter completely lose their shit. :)
@@mobilegameplaywalkthroughs990 Agreed.
In some states those firefighters wouldn't have made it to the fire on a private property. They could've been shot.
It's easy to defend the rights of someone you like. Some of you folks need to get a grip and realize it's just as important to do the same for people you don't.
It's also important to realise the guy was a zealot and behaved hysterically. He wasn't really put upon and it only interferred with his life at all because he blew a trivial event out of all proportion.
@@MissBlennerhassett876 sad when people say the obvious trampling of our rights is trivial
@@chadgamer6942 Sad when people are melodramatic and have no sense of proportion.
@@MissBlennerhassett876 your just saying words with no explanation. how am I being melodramatic? How does proportion matter? Is it cause your rights aren't being trampled just this guys so you don't care?
@@chadgamer6942 No, it's that "rights being trampled on" is an unqualified term you would likely use on just about every video on this channel. And I'm saying there's a difference between being illegally detained and pepper-sprayed over a traffic violation, say, and screaming yourself hoarse over a fireman quelling a small blaze in a car park. One is actually traumatic and the other is more or less inconsequential and not worth screaming at the top of your lungs about. The man in this video worked himself up into a frenzy and it was completely irrational.
"Mr. Justice" is all talk and a loud mouth- he was just as condescending as anyone else there
Reaction to the firejerks.
Also, many people value their privacy highly and just want their little space of quiet to themselves, and not the smell of firefigher testosterone pissing on their BBQ serenity.
His anger underlines his need for distance from that.
NO, LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU, LOUDMOUTH, AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT !
@@BengiAndSnuggles Well said!
Dowlphwin Don’t start fires and the fire department doesn’t show up.
My god you people lack such self awareness.
Troll somewhere else
@@koberyan2880 But like audit the audit said, one is allowed to start fire in a controlled manner. So why should one not do it? Just because some firefighters have huge egos and want to show who the boss is? Definitely not happening
More like C- for the property owner acting like a total fool!!!
I was literally cracking up during the whole video, it just kept getting more ridiculous each minute 😂
Same 🤣🤣🤣
I work in EMS and this captain was way out of line. Fire captains and their unions’ are pretty insulated and I wouldn’t be surprised if he had no punishment. Mr. Justice knew the rules but he was very unnecessarily hostile.
well .... no he doesnt
agree to it or ot, the firef. dude had the right, it was even his duty, to enter and check
while you could easily argue he remain longer then needed,it was clearly state with the according law that he doesnt need or have to comply with the owner in that matter
@@namonamo494 Mr. Justice deserves no higher grade than a C. The B+ was waaaay to generous.
Also, the right to remain silent applies to being questioned. You have the right not to answer questions or give self incriminating statements.
Mr. Justice was ordering the firefighters off of his property before they had had the chance to inspect the fire. Had he escorted them to the burn site, explained what he was doing, and that he kept a watchful eye on the fire to make sure it remained contained, I doubt any problems would've arisen from this interaction. The fire chief could have given some advice on how to best conduct a controlled open fire, and made Mr. Justice aware of possible risks and dangers.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 yeah he seemed like he was treating them like they are the police.
Mr Justice was well within his right.
He wanted them off HIS property and they disrespected his asking them to leave, PERIOD!!
That cop even had tactical pens in his vest.
Im looking like those pens look real different they look like they hurt!😂
Those are blood pens
Hats off to Officer Sims for admitting to fault. I understand that tempers were high, but ultimately cooler heads prevailed.
NEVER MENTION YOU'RE TALKING SOMEONE TO COURT, EVER
Officer Sims should get an A for keepin it real. Hats off to him.
Literally
No. He escalated the situation and was a shit cop. He should be fired. Shit stains like ofc Sims get cops killed when they go off in more tense situations than something as benign as this encounter.
B for failing to control his own emotions while armed. I'm very proud of him to owning up to it though and trying to make it right.
@@NDcompetitiveshooter big difference between a cop who is walking away saying nonsense compared to a cop refusing to leave. Sims refused to leave at first then walked away and was instigated repeatedly by the citizen. He should’ve handled it better but definitely did way better then most lying cops who look to arrest black men for any reason.
@@crispy9175 they both escalated the situation but he wasn’t a shit cop because he confessed and was honest. He owned it like a man!
Mr. Justice gets an F. I can't understand why he deserves a B+
The youtuber is bias towards Black people
Mr. Justice was within his rights and the fire Captain was purposefully antagonizing him. Rights don't depend on politeness.
@@charlesgerety1403 Your family shows bias towards inbreeding.
@@icemachine79 He intentionally escalated the situation.
@@nate5353 First of all, you have absolutely no way of knowing his intentions. But it is very telling that you'd make that assumption about Mr. Justice. Second, it was the fire Captain who needlessly escalated the situation by not listening to Mr. Justice and refusing to leave.
The only question is WHY you felt it necessary to go after Mr. Justice and misconstrue the situation. Is it because you don't like him for... _some_ reason?
“get off my property”
“ill leave when i want”
“oh yeah, what’s your name?”
-walks away quickly-
Honestly have they would've not yelled at each other, this would've been easily handled properly because I can tell it was getting really heated.
well, good thing they had the fire department present to extingish that heated environment /s
Ya and who brought it to that level? Who's going to just willingly put up with being screamed at, and cussed out.
No pun intended
@@smilebehappy6102 no... have you not ever seen a fire spread quick and get so out of hand a small forest burns down? I have...my neighbors had a tiny grill going and a few embers got caught in the wind and caught the entire patch of dry trees in between our houses on fire. It was a massive fore within a matter of minutes. The fire department had no clue what was actually going on when they received the call, better to check it out before it gets too late.
@@EpicAMV911 I can't tell who you are talking about but the firefighter doesn't have to put up with it and can leave so he isn't exposed to it anymore. No?
All parties are at fault. Aside of all the legal aspects to who was right or wrong, at the end it was just a big d..k competition between misbehaving adults.
I feel as if the man recording was justified. He should be able to tell the firemen to leave his property, maybe the fireman could've comprised (To see the fire then leave). I've never seen a cop act like that either 😂 this video is a roller coaster
All parties are definitely acting like children, but it's important to keep in mind that one party here compelled the other to do something, and didn't respect the other party's rights to the use of their property. Just because someone isn't level-headed doesn't mean that bad behavior should be swept under the rug as everyone being "at fault".
Everyone was certainly "at fault" for the arguing, but I'm more concerned with how this man is being treated by the public servants, who should be trained in how to deal with people who aren't keeping calm. Public servants at least have a responsibility to de-escalate, and avoid the d**k waving, but a citizen doesn't have that same responsibility, because they don't hold any extra privileges or employment towards keeping the peace.
@@weeveferrelaine6973
"I'll take ya ass to court!"
"Are you threatening me??"
*Cop pulls up*
*Starts actually threatening the guy*
You don't really get the point of this channel do you? LAW, not EMOTIONS.
@@cantaloupecoke57 Well he said for them to leave first, wouldn’t let them speak at all, and then we already know that the firemen have to at least investigate claims of a fire, and then when he went to leave the guy I told him ‘not to fucking go anywhere”???
You need to stop being so biased on the auditors grading. his response was just as bad, if not worse than the fire chiefs.
The legal system is bias, that's what's he is rating on
I probably wouldn't call him an auditor but I'd be pretty upset if I had a fire going on my property ON A RAINY DAY just to have the fun police show up and ruin it for no other reason than because they can. Cop should have showed up, looked at the situation for 2 seconds and then told the firemen to buzz off and stop wasting his time with stupid calls.
It’s less about the auditor’s attitude, and more about whether he was within his legal bounds to do what he was doing or requesting. He’s not operating in a professional capacity as a public servant, like the others are.
This guy wasn't trying to audit but rather defend his property in legal ways against a clearly unreasonable action and behavior by the fireman
Public officials are held to a higher standard as they should be. An average person being upset that their rights are violated is completely understandable
Sitting right next to a lifelong Maryland firefighter. Once the fire department got there the scene was theirs until released by the OIC. People forget that part of the job is making sure the fire is completely out and won't reignite. They can even have landowners removed from private property if needed to fight the fire or to hold the scene for an arson investigator. They can even order police officers removed from a scene if necessary. The FD was under no obligation to leave when asked.
I might be losing my touch or my mind but at the beginning and especially at the end officer sims turned out to be a nice guy and honest cop. Officer sims seemed like a good cop when he was saying "I've got this, I've got this". I would have given him the chance to prove his worth as a police officer. Just my take on this interaction between citizenry and police.
I agree. Dude should have given the officer a chance to handle the situation. If it was not being handled in a proper manner, then call for a supervisor. Don't jump on the cop for trying to calm things down.
Agreed 👍
@@coreymunroe8073 I agree and I'm very hard on cops unless they are doing their job properly, professionally, and within the law.
"I'm not talking to you, you're a defendant!" LOL! I loved that.
Although the fighting words may be legal, surely that type of behaviour falls far below police conduct standards.
I'd like to know how on a wet rainy day the fire got started .I'm thinking it was deliberately started to bait the fireman to the property to start a altercation hoping to suit
Mr justice just looking for a payday, by the sounds of him he probably makes a career out of it.
OK racist
@@icemachine79
@@dellguru5908 OK racist #2
Evidence.
Well, you look for a payday every day don’t you?
Mr Justice gets a grade of D+. He intentionally escalated the entire incident. He was belligerent and provocative throughout. Makes me wonder if his intent was to stand up for his rights or to bait officials in pursuit of a civil suit.
Your grade on mr justice is flatly absurd. C- at absolute best. Officer Simms is a phenomenal public servant and should serve as an example to policing in America
Goes to show how low the bar is for police if Sims' actions here are having him touted as a phenomenal public servant. He was out of line the second he said I'm going to tell you once and got in his face and started yelling, that's escalating behavior. He was out of line when he said I'll leave when I want to leave, that's ego driven, antagonizing, retaliatory behavior. Not to mention devoid of respect for the property owner's wishes. He was WAY out of line when he deliberately tried to provoke a physical confrontation by saying "make me leave". After that he continued to try to provoke a fight with Mr. Justice by saying "any time any time...". Sims calming down and becoming professional afterward, in front of his superior, and confessing to his behavior, which he knows is on camera anyway, doesn't excuse him of escalating and trying to start a fight with a citizen while in the course of his duties. Police are going to encounter rude and obnoxious people during the course of their duties, they need to remain calm and not escalate the situation. And under no circumstances should they deliberately try to provoke a fight, that makes them a danger to the public.
@@gr33dyglutton Wow! Dude you need to man up. If you think that was hostile, you should probably thank the stars you had such a soft life. Sure glad you’re not working in a position where a man would be required. You just go on keep holding that feminist party down. The world needs soft men too
@@pepperjack6749 I expect professionalism out of police officers so I need to man up? 🤣What do you think would happen if the property owner "manned up" and started swinging on the cop? Do you think all his armed cop buddies would have just watched? Beaten at best, maybe even shot and killed, certainly arrested and thrown in jail for years. The citizen is at a severe disadvantage, it's like an adult trying to pick a fight with a child; manly, right? Police are supposed to protect and serve citizens, deescalate, not goad them into dangerous situations. The cop even acknowledged he was wrong.... Go on and believe this is the way cops should behave, the world needs stupid people too.
Those nice firemen just saved that concrete slab from iminant destruction. Our hero’s.
The fire fighters have a duty to put that fire out.
So by your logic the fire fighters have a duty to go anywhere and put out any bonfires or campfires that are under control and then just hang around on private property because they can.
@@theschiznit8777 Nope only fires that have the potential to spread such as the fire in this video any uncontained fire can be extinguished by the firefighters.
Actually from the verbatim read of Maryland law (ATA read during this video) makes your statement invalid and false. The firefighters had right to enter and investigate and then leave once they noticed it was a small contained fire under Maryland law.
@@HashknightGaming But it is contained!
A new de-escalation tactic is to invade someone's personal space while screaming at them to calm down and let it go.
Police officers are still human. This guy was being an asshole. The officer was nice when he walked in but this guy was trying to find every way to escalate the situation.
@@nacon3396 No one needs to be nice on their property. All they needed to do is leave.
its his property he doesnt need toi be nice, others are tresspassing
@@nacon3396 Wrong, it's the police officer's responsibility to DE-escalate, not get closer to the man and raise his voice, then imply that he'd like to fight him.
Being a cop probably fucking sucks. You have to deal with people like this all day sometimes. But if you're unable to de-escalate these encounters or control your emotions then get a new job. I'm not allowed to snap at people and scream at them in my job because I'd get fired. The taxpayers shell out money to educate police on how to deal with assholes. If they police don't utilize those tactics than the money was wasted.
@@nacon3396 human or not, it was inhuman mr justice was just expressing himself. Reasonable, no. As an officer he has no exception to get only kind words.
But the officer was reasonable and tried to calm it down..
Bro leave the firemen alone, they not doing you no harm
Is nobody gonna acknowledge his camera quality and the horizontal filming?
Fantastic
No he was too busy being an asshole unnecessarily
@@myguychris7739 Not illegal to be an asshole though.
@@robertnicholls9917 yeah but you don't get props, congratulations, recognition, or respect. Fuck that guy. He knew his rights but fuck him
@@myguychris7739 unnecessarily? He told them to leave and they refused
Using logic is beautiful isn't it? Seriously lol - spends $1200 on a new phone - Records horizontally. Ey, your loss lol. idiot.
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“It will be back ON in a few minutes” So firefighters had to stay there to make sure it is not going to.
C+ He remained within his rights but needlessly escilated the situation with vulgarities and "promises".
Oh no bad words let's find a rock to hide under!!!!!
Other commenters said he should be given disorderly, what idiots
A+ for Officer Sims.
This guy caused all this.
Once fire department arrives it is their scene according to NEIMS and ICS
yes, but the issue is they did not inform him on anything, they just went there and he even informed them that the fire is ok and you saw it was small...
If he dont pay for it he dont own shidddt
@@botzogg896 doesn't matter, they got a call of a fire and acted
Simply arriving means nothing they still have to meet the guidelines to need to enter the property against the owners wishes.
EXACTLY
The way the firefighter would say ''no'' was so juvenile LMAO
Lacking self-control, he shot himself in the foot and ruined his whole stance. When calling out morons, you can't be one too.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Sometimes it takes stooping to thier level for them to finally see how they're acting.
Mr justice should watch his video and look at how stupid he sounds
Mr Justice elevated the scenario, he also is testing people with big ego and this is not how you should handle anything...you can't depend on anyone to deescalate a scene but you can control yourself. Mr. Justice should get a C- for this. Even if its his rights his behavior is hostile and threating to everyone involved.
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I usually respect your grades but giving that guy a B+… dude called the police to help and then immediately kicked them out when he was trying to be civil at first
That dude was a complete ass.
Mr Justice didnt call the police. The fireman called the police.
He didn’t even ask for the cops lol, he just wanted them off his property
He didn’t call them. The firefighters did.
Ask for the supervisor! Repeatedly.