I own my A3 Etron now for 3 weeks, not only did I miss there is a special 'B mode' I also didn't now I can drive the car as manual. I learned alot today thanks 😂😂
Actually this mode is an unknown bug. So you are lucky to have found this video after Only 3 weeks of ownership. It took me 1 year to discover it by myself 😂
@@funcarreviews yeah but the funniest part is that I didn't even knew I can tilt the shifter to the right for manual mode 😂 I thought my car couldn't do manual since I have no flappy pedals on my steering wheel.
Very interesting. I know Audi chose the gliding off throttle in D to maximize range for open road, but regen in city conditions is probably easier to do than constantly be on the brake. I may try this on my 2016.
Hello, Exactly. BUT this is the only car known to me not to have a be B mode. Even the GTE of same year has it and those share the same engine. Dynamic regen has been introduced later on the latest A3 and Q5 e-tron (see my videos on that) dynamically depending on whhat the camera sees (car in front braking) and if not mistaken on the GPS system in certain cases (ex : roundabout). But i am not that in love with this system. This bug just exist on the original A3-etron. Not the facelift.
@@funcarreviews Well I tried it on my 2016 (pre facelift). Yes it does appear to go into the secret "B" mode which gives heavy regen when you lift off the throttle and will stay in EV mode. However unlike your car, where normally you see "D1" or "M1" depending on drive mode, the hidden "B" mode is BLANK on my car. No gear position display either. Very interesting indeed.
@@Trades46 Thanks for your feedback :) Strange that it is blank though. But keep in mind this bug only works in EV mode, and S EV should appear (but blank in your case). It has no effect in other drive modes :)
Quote from the user manual, "If the brakes are applied early and evenly, the electric motor will break the vehicle. By doing this, a large amount of kinetic energy is recovered and may be stored as electric energy in the high-voltage battery." The car is always regenerating when you brake in a normal way. The only difference with the bug is that you don't have to use the brake pedal in EV mode then. So the brake pedal is B mode in essential.
Hello , Indeed, the Whole point of the bug is to not have to break manually especially during city driving. it also gives a better reaction time for breaking.
@@funcarreviews bonjour, en faisant la manipulation le « S » ne s’affiche pas sur le compteur et même en roulant c’est pareil. Pourtant en descendant le levier en « S » la voiture a plus de couple,mais ça ne s’affiche pas…une solution peut-être ? Merci beaucoup
Thanks a lot! I've been really missing this mode (Calls "One pedal driving" in Germany) 😉 What is that clamp thing with the S-Logo between your 2 middle ventilation openings? A mount for a mobile phone?
Aha great you found it. What did you type on TH-cam to find it ? Just curious. Yes it is a magnetic car mount that goes between. I made a little lousy video about it 😂
Hello, Indeed it does not work for the 2017 facelift. Only the 2015 original. It was discovered after the video was published and I updated the description 😅
Salut voisin! J'ai regardé plusieurs de tes vidéos bien sympathiques d'ailleurs, mais je n'ai pas trouvé la version française de celle ci.. aurait tu un lien ? Et merci pour tes vidéos 👍
Hello, Malheureusement non. Je n'ai pas encore traduit cette vidéo ;) mais a dispo en cas de question. Et merci pour le commentaire. Content qu'elles soient appréciées :)
My sister has the 2017 facelift model and we'd found this doesn't work sadly. She uses D mode and then the left paddle to regen when needed and it's as close as it can be to this. The car suggests to shift up but I presume this is all fine to use regularly in EV mode, not stressing the EV powertrain like it would an ICE?
Hello, yes unfortunately it does not work on the facelift. I am not a specialist but people have asked me your question which is really interesting and that is what I would say as there is still a notion of gears on this car : - I would say that the EV engine might « rotate » faster thus getting worn faster - if you accelerate more and more, still in EV, the car will upshift automatically for it s safety (when in high rev). In my case the operation seems brutal on my car if I do that. The shifting is not as smooth, so it might impact the durability of the gear system too - the down/up shifting thresholds seems to not be the same between EV and ICE so if suddenly the car engages the ICE for whatever reason, it might start in a high rev situation on a lower gear, which will worn the ICE (especially if cold). In your sister’s case, as she stays in D with the lever, and then uses the paddles, it will go back in D after a certain time or situation (complete stop) so the risk for her car is small in general, but the risk still exists (if she is on low battery for example and she is still in temporary M with the paddle, the ICE will automatically engage itself). What I worry about is people saying : just use the M with the lever and let the car do it s thing. For the reasons I explained, this would be a no no for me and greater chance of the risk happening than for you sister.
By the way, I have contacted Audi for the bug and found it interesting but did not want to confirm or not if it was really a bug. But as it s not on the facelift and they were in a hurry to get the original A3 e-tron out, it makes me think that it is a bug.
Hi there, I just bought one of these myself and am finding it has a very small but noticeable 'jolt' on the auto gear change when running on electric mode but not at all when using the engine. I'm curious if yours does the same? I'm struggling to get answers on this (even from the main dealer). Many thanks, Toby
Hello Toby, I have commented that on my video at a certain point : th-cam.com/video/7O1x46S3x9A/w-d-xo.html In EV mode with the D engaged, i sometimes had some harsher gear changes than with the ICE. Not often but it did happen. On this car, you can hear the gear changing, with a little "Knock" sometimes when going from 1st to 2nd. I usually hear and feel less when going faster. But it is totally bearable and rare enough for me not to worry over it (and i m a big worrier so...) The "worst" that i have in my car, is in battery hold mode with manual gear changes. There you can really feel and hear the Klonk / jolt. It s like there are no friction and it just abruptly passes the gear (it's worse during fast acceleration). Do you have the same behavior ? Anyway there are some things to test in your case if you are curious : 1) is it always like this ? (ex : less jolt with more EV driving) 2) Is it like this at every gear changes ? always the same gears ? randomly ? 3) If you drive in Hybrid hold, your engine and transmission will get hotter. Go back to EV, do you notice the same ? Better ? Worse ? 4) Is happening when driving "environmental friendly" (with slow acceleration) ? also when you drive in a sportier way ? 5) Do you feel the same / better / worse by passing the gears manually in EV mode ? My dealership told me it's because the car has a lot of torque with the EV engine, which doesn't really make sense because in sport mode you don't have the problem. And why when i drive in a sporty way with the ICE, it only happens in manual, never when in auto gear ? My guess is (and that's only my guess) : The car is electronically configured in a different way when you are in EV than when you have the engine on. The car can go sooner on higher gears. Also i guess that on the opposite of a fuel engine, you can't stall, so they can engage the gear in a different way (and sooner)
Hello, En général cela permet de freiner le véhicule avec un frein moteur afin de permettre la conduite en 1 pédale et par la même occasion de récupérer de l énergie sans avoir besoin de freiner avec les freins « physique » et aussi d économiser sur les freins. C est une fonction qu on trouve souvent sur des modèles hybrides 🤗
Hello, I have a question. I have a Audi A3 etron 2015. When I fill up the car it’s say you can drive 410 km with it ( gas and electric full ). Is this normal? Can I reset this back to 650km?
Hello, I do not think that is possible. Range is adjusted automatically depending on your driving style. After I fill gas and electricity, I can have around 600 or 700 km displayed range. 410 is quite low. What is your fuel consumption ?
well, okay, you now gain the one pedal driving, but what you lose is the coasting without any engines you would have in D. Isn't that a major downside? You're always either acellerating or recharging.
Hello, This is more of a drivers choice (and road condition). Sometimes I prefer coasting, some other times, one pedal driving. The more important thing is the bug discovery and the choice you now have that exists usually in other similar cars 😊.
@@funcarreviews Yes, that's interesting, I'm not sure if it's a bug though or if engineers just wanted you to not have the option ;) Why do you think they removed it with the facelift? :(
@@jemand8462 hello again. Indeed it is a bug. The way Audi answered me, it is not a wanted feature. And for the facelift, all the owners have confirmed me that it is not working. All originals stated it is working :)
@@funcarreviews thanks for clarifying. One last question: Can you actually see how much you are recharging while braking? Is it 100% if you let go of the throttle completely? And is this the same amount you can achieve in "normal" mode by tapping the brake pedal? (I'm asking all this because I'm about to buy one of these beauties ;)
Hello, There are no precise indications (kw) while recuperating energy. You ll just have the needle going into the charge zone. The intensity will depend on your speed and if you fully release the gas pedal or not 😁. It will just not be the case if battery is full (for safety reasons). It needs to lose a couple of % first. From what I remember, releasing the gas pedal with this bug, you ll be sure to maximize your charge possibility and saving your mechanical brakes. If you are not in bug mode and you brake, you’ll have greater « risks » of braking with the mechanical breaks after a certains threshold that you might not always feel. Don’t know If I am clear Aha. I have kept this car for 4 years before changing for the newer model a year ago. So my memory is not the best. That s why I have tried to document most of the things on my videos for potential interested folks 😊😁
@@funcarreviews i do notice some regen when in S mode though…better than nothing. I got this more for the overall driving experience more than phev (already have an ev and weekend nd2 anyway) love this audi phev version of the gti 😃
Regen B mode should be possible, at least, all the time the car is using the EV motor independently of the driving mode (M D S). It seems that Audi has separated the S mode and EV and what you discovered is a workaround (not a regen B mode). Can you use the S mode along with the Hybrid Auto? I guess not Does the user manual indicate the M mode? Does it mean the car does not shift gears in the M mode?
Well actually it really is a bug and really a Regen B mode / (take the GTE as an exemple witch as a B mode For EV and that behaves like I explained, if you had the opportunity to drive it). Without this bug, Regen mode is only possible going down a hill or to use the S mode which will trigger the ICE. S EV (this bug) is the only way to have a 1 pedal driving style with Regen while on Fully EV. And this is only possible with the first gen A3 etron.
@@m.bouanane4455 Well it's a bit complicated to answer. Battery can be charged a bit while driving in any mode, depending on how you drive it and how the car decides to handle it. Regen will always happen WHEN you press on the brake pedal. Regen WITHOUT pressing the brake pedal will happen : 1) in any mode if you are downhilling. 2) in M Mode at any time 3) in D hybrid charge mode at any time 4) in S hybrid hold mode at any time 5) in S EV mode at any time On flat surfaces, regen WITHOUT pressing the brake pedal will not happen : 1) In D EV mode 2) In D Hybrid auto mode 3) In D Hybrid hold mode Hope it's a bit clearer despite the long answer ;)
Hello Dani, In summer : EV : 35-40 KM In winter : EV : 25-30 With heating, around 20-25 (i m usually not using the heating, unless extremely cold) In General : Hybrid Hold : around 600 KM and between 5.5-6 L / 100 KM
When the gear shift is in D, just push it down one more time. It will bring it to S, put the car in Hybrid hold and turn on the fuel engine when driving
I am kinda of frustrated with this car, I have 2017 model e-tron, I really could not figure it out "what is the best driving mode on highway/motorways for long distance journeys?" To me personally, it seems D-mode with regen. but unfortunately, it is possible only with a work around - transmission in d-mode and than from driving mode, switch to dynamic mode, however, i am not sure about fuel economy in this mode. I mean switching to "dynamic driving mode" might suck more fuel up I guess? You showed in one of ur videos about the real time fuel consumption? I tried today but it seems not plausible or not showing what I wanted! Do I have to change some kinda of settings? Pure electric mode is just a "selling slogan" when you drive on highway in this car! Battery hold mode is the most "horrible" in terms of fuel economy.
Hello, Yes, the D-mode with regen or S EV is a bug that i have discovered only affecting the 2015 version. There are no such thing on the 2017 unfortunately. If the 2017 is the same for the 2015 in terms of driving mode with drive select, it should have no effect on the car at all in terms of fuel economy (i m explaining it on one of the videos, i ll give you the link). To make it short to have the best fuel efficiency : - Use EV in city (don't use the heater or AC (or even the ventilation completely) if you want some real EV range difference) - Use Hybrid Auto on highways - Avoid battery hold (you sometimes drive in electric with it, and it allows you to have more of a "normal" car in terms of fuel consumption. So you can get up to around 600 KM with one full tank and a couple of charges) - And the 2017 doesn't have the battery charge anyway The pure electric has only some sense to the consumer if you can charge it everyday. Otherwise, it's just an expensive car to avoid if you can't. My personal belief is that the car could have achieved better if the hybrid more was better electronically developed. There are quite some infos on the videos + the description. I list all the "bad things" of the car, the fuel consumption... th-cam.com/video/XyaJPg5HS0U/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/7O1x46S3x9A/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/IznETIBFCn0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ZDk096Tnzw8/w-d-xo.html
Jones B Hello, Not really the same because I m talking about having the B mode WHILE being in EV. Hybrid charge will activate the ICE and the facelift version of this car don’t have the charge mode
@@funcarreviews oh ok, but like you said in the video, it's probably not the best for your car otherwise they would have made it stock. I have this car aswell but barely use it in ev mode, i'm either on hybrid charge or hybrid mode as I think using it fully ev mode will damage the battery overtime
Jones B Actually I have never seen a hybrid without this mode. The car is clearly unfinished. The Golf GTE ans Audi share the exact same system but the electronic that manages them is different. I have extensively used the B mode downhilling for 15 Km and I had no problem. The ICE will turn on if overcharging might come. It has been well thought but unfinished (don’t have the KW consumption for example). Battery will wear out in any case but it s good to discharge and charge the car. They have a battery buffer in order to avoid damaging the battery if you run too often on EV and you use all the battery. Anyway, you lose 2% of battery capacity per year (battery degradation) and I wouldn’t keep those kind of cars after 5-6 years in order to avoid battery problem on the long run. Of the 8.8Kwh, only around 7.7 is usable.
@@funcarreviews yeah what you're saying makes sense, you seem to know a lot about the car. I have a question about the car for some time now, when I cold start the car in the morning and start driving on ev without even running the petrol engine, and the electricity runs out on the highway and the car suddenly changes to the untouched cold petrol engine, is that bad or does the car somehow when you drive on electricity keep the petrol engine warm as you drive. Do you know what I mean?
Jones B Yep I understand what you mean. I don’t have the answer but once again I think the car is unfinished. I don’t think that the ICE would be preheated electrically or through the heat generated by the EV motor. Toyota for example in normal hybrid let’s the ICE run a couple of minutes in the void (not engaged to the gear system) before you can really use it which is very smart. I did experience that too in the Audi but very very very very less often. Usually it just kicks in engaged to the gear. I m not sure if how it is done for the ICE on the Audi is good because not only you don’t have the temperature but most probably the oil never reached the fuel engine before it engages the ICE. It seems like a complete cold start. The least worst should be that when it kicks in you are on low RPM. I also do hope that the engine is more resistant because unless you make long trips with the ICE always on, the oil temperature is always low (around 50-70 degrees Celsius in winter city driving in hybrid hold ) I ll ask Audi when I can
Hello, This is not the same because the gears are not handled like it should be. You would be in M(anual) mode and not D(rive) mode which is totally different. (if this is what you meant). If in M and you are too fast, the gear won't upshift at the right moment because the thresholds are not the same for the gears between ICE and EV engines, and if the ICE kicks in at the wrong time on you will worn the engine as high reving with cold engine might occur. This bug only exists on this model and not the facelift. Only the Golf GTE of same period which has the same architecture has a real implemented B mode with the lever. The Audi does not and NONE of them have it. Now they have implemented some kind of dynamic B mode based on the onboard cameras and navigation system, with (i think) mode advanced features if a route has been configured (but this is even present on the Kia e-Nero in some way). Although i love this car and have this car myself, it is definitely unfinished and was pushed into production because of the GTE rival (in my opinion).
it allows the car to brake using the electric motor instead of the brakes as soon as you lift your foot off the gas pedal. you have a better regen and save on brakes
Hello, This B mode is a bug, and works with the S mode only. So you can be in S EV or S (with ICE) but this last one is just normal. The efficiency part is more of a debate actually. Some will say it can be less efficient but that depends on the regen efficiency of the car (how good it is implemented). It is possible there is little gain on this car but at least you can drive with only one pedal and have a smoother ride.
I own my A3 Etron now for 3 weeks, not only did I miss there is a special 'B mode' I also didn't now I can drive the car as manual. I learned alot today thanks 😂😂
Tijn Vos you are welcome. I m glad this video helped you. Also you are lucky as this seems only to apply to the first gen 😁
Actually this mode is an unknown bug. So you are lucky to have found this video after Only
3 weeks of ownership. It took me 1 year to discover it by myself 😂
@@funcarreviews yeah but the funniest part is that I didn't even knew I can tilt the shifter to the right for manual mode 😂 I thought my car couldn't do manual since I have no flappy pedals on my steering wheel.
Tijn Vos well there s always a learning curve. You ll learn from other of my videos too. I m sure you ll enjoy your car like i do 😁
Thank you sooooooo much!!!!!
I was missing an option to drive the electric motor a bit more aggressively.
The B mode is an additional advantage :P
You are welcome 🤗 glad you found what is definitely missing in this car.
Wow this is a life saver. Now I'm using it all the time, thanks!
You are welcome :)
Very interesting. I know Audi chose the gliding off throttle in D to maximize range for open road, but regen in city conditions is probably easier to do than constantly be on the brake.
I may try this on my 2016.
Hello,
Exactly. BUT this is the only car known to me not to have a be B mode. Even the GTE of same year has it and those share the same engine. Dynamic regen has been introduced later on the latest A3 and Q5 e-tron (see my videos on that) dynamically depending on whhat the camera sees (car in front braking) and if not mistaken on the GPS system in certain cases (ex : roundabout). But i am not that in love with this system. This bug just exist on the original A3-etron. Not the facelift.
@@funcarreviews Well I tried it on my 2016 (pre facelift). Yes it does appear to go into the secret "B" mode which gives heavy regen when you lift off the throttle and will stay in EV mode. However unlike your car, where normally you see "D1" or "M1" depending on drive mode, the hidden "B" mode is BLANK on my car. No gear position display either.
Very interesting indeed.
@@Trades46 Thanks for your feedback :)
Strange that it is blank though. But keep in mind this bug only works in EV mode, and S EV should appear (but blank in your case). It has no effect in other drive modes :)
Quote from the user manual,
"If the brakes are applied early and evenly, the electric motor will break the vehicle. By doing this, a large amount of kinetic energy is recovered and may be stored as electric energy in the high-voltage battery."
The car is always regenerating when you brake in a normal way. The only difference with the bug is that you don't have to use the brake pedal in EV mode then. So the brake pedal is B mode in essential.
Hello ,
Indeed, the Whole point of the bug is to not have to break manually especially during city driving. it also gives a better reaction time for breaking.
@@funcarreviews bonjour, en faisant la manipulation le « S » ne s’affiche pas sur le compteur et même en roulant c’est pareil. Pourtant en descendant le levier en « S » la voiture a plus de couple,mais ça ne s’affiche pas…une solution peut-être ?
Merci beaucoup
@@sergiodonas8185 Bonjour, est ce que vous avez la version de 2015 (originale) ou la facelift de 2017 (le bug n existe pas sur cette dernière) ? 😅
@@funcarreviews je vous remercie de votre reponse pour commencer et oui elle du 24/12/2015 effectivement. Il y a des bugs??
@@funcarreviews pouvez vous me dire si c’est un bug ou grave en soi.
Merci d’avance c’est le modèle 2015 que j’ai.
Thanks for this, works on my uk 2015 model
You are very welcome. From some commentaries on forum after that video, it might not work on the 2017/18 model.
We are the lucky ones :)
Thanks a lot! I've been really missing this mode (Calls "One pedal driving" in Germany) 😉
What is that clamp thing with the S-Logo between your 2 middle ventilation openings?
A mount for a mobile phone?
Aha great you found it. What did you type on TH-cam to find it ? Just curious.
Yes it is a magnetic car mount that goes between. I made a little lousy video about it 😂
Doesn't work for me. 2017 A3 e-tron prestige. Am I missing something?
Hello,
Indeed it does not work for the 2017 facelift. Only the 2015 original. It was discovered after the video was published and I updated the description 😅
Salut voisin! J'ai regardé plusieurs de tes vidéos bien sympathiques d'ailleurs, mais je n'ai pas trouvé la version française de celle ci.. aurait tu un lien ?
Et merci pour tes vidéos 👍
Hello,
Malheureusement non. Je n'ai pas encore traduit cette vidéo ;) mais a dispo en cas de question.
Et merci pour le commentaire. Content qu'elles soient appréciées :)
My sister has the 2017 facelift model and we'd found this doesn't work sadly. She uses D mode and then the left paddle to regen when needed and it's as close as it can be to this. The car suggests to shift up but I presume this is all fine to use regularly in EV mode, not stressing the EV powertrain like it would an ICE?
Hello, yes unfortunately it does not work on the facelift. I am not a specialist but people have asked me your question which is really interesting and that is what I would say as there is still a notion of gears on this car :
- I would say that the EV engine might « rotate » faster thus getting worn faster
- if you accelerate more and more, still in EV, the car will upshift automatically for it s safety (when in high rev). In my case the operation seems brutal on my car if I do that. The shifting is not as smooth, so it might impact the durability of the gear system too
- the down/up shifting thresholds seems to not be the same between EV and ICE so if suddenly the car engages the ICE for whatever reason, it might start in a high rev situation on a lower gear, which will worn the ICE (especially if cold).
In your sister’s case, as she stays in D with the lever, and then uses the paddles, it will go back in D after a certain time or situation (complete stop) so the risk for her car is small in general, but the risk still exists (if she is on low battery for example and she is still in temporary M with the paddle, the ICE will automatically engage itself).
What I worry about is people saying : just use the M with the lever and let the car do it s thing. For the reasons I explained, this would be a no no for me and greater chance of the risk happening than for you sister.
By the way, I have contacted Audi for the bug and found it interesting but did not want to confirm or not if it was really a bug. But as it s not on the facelift and they were in a hurry to get the original A3 e-tron out, it makes me think that it is a bug.
Hi there, I just bought one of these myself and am finding it has a very small but noticeable 'jolt' on the auto gear change when running on electric mode but not at all when using the engine. I'm curious if yours does the same? I'm struggling to get answers on this (even from the main dealer). Many thanks, Toby
Hello Toby,
I have commented that on my video at a certain point :
th-cam.com/video/7O1x46S3x9A/w-d-xo.html
In EV mode with the D engaged, i sometimes had some harsher gear changes than with the ICE. Not often but it did happen.
On this car, you can hear the gear changing, with a little "Knock" sometimes when going from 1st to 2nd. I usually hear and feel less when going faster. But it is totally bearable and rare enough for me not to worry over it (and i m a big worrier so...)
The "worst" that i have in my car, is in battery hold mode with manual gear changes. There you can really feel and hear the Klonk / jolt. It s like there are no friction and it just abruptly passes the gear (it's worse during fast acceleration).
Do you have the same behavior ?
Anyway there are some things to test in your case if you are curious :
1) is it always like this ? (ex : less jolt with more EV driving)
2) Is it like this at every gear changes ? always the same gears ? randomly ?
3) If you drive in Hybrid hold, your engine and transmission will get hotter. Go back to EV, do you notice the same ? Better ? Worse ?
4) Is happening when driving "environmental friendly" (with slow acceleration) ? also when you drive in a sportier way ?
5) Do you feel the same / better / worse by passing the gears manually in EV mode ?
My dealership told me it's because the car has a lot of torque with the EV engine, which doesn't really make sense because in sport mode you don't have the problem. And why when i drive in a sporty way with the ICE, it only happens in manual, never when in auto gear ?
My guess is (and that's only my guess) :
The car is electronically configured in a different way when you are in EV than when you have the engine on.
The car can go sooner on higher gears.
Also i guess that on the opposite of a fuel engine, you can't stall, so they can engage the gear in a different way (and sooner)
Salut :) je voudrais juste savoir à quoi consiste le « B-Mode » sur les autres modèles ? Qu’y a-t-il de spécial ? merci
Hello,
En général cela permet de freiner le véhicule avec un frein moteur afin de permettre la conduite en 1 pédale et par la même occasion de récupérer de l énergie sans avoir besoin de freiner avec les freins « physique » et aussi d économiser sur les freins. C est une fonction qu on trouve souvent sur des modèles hybrides 🤗
@@funcarreviews merci pour la réponse 👍🏾
Hello, I have a question. I have a Audi A3 etron 2015. When I fill up the car it’s say you can drive 410 km with it ( gas and electric full ).
Is this normal? Can I reset this back to 650km?
Hello,
I do not think that is possible. Range is adjusted automatically depending on your driving style. After I fill gas and electricity, I can have around 600 or 700 km displayed range.
410 is quite low. What is your fuel consumption ?
well, okay, you now gain the one pedal driving, but what you lose is the coasting without any engines you would have in D. Isn't that a major downside? You're always either acellerating or recharging.
Hello,
This is more of a drivers choice (and road condition).
Sometimes I prefer coasting, some other times, one pedal driving.
The more important thing is the bug discovery and the choice you now have that exists usually in other similar cars 😊.
@@funcarreviews Yes, that's interesting, I'm not sure if it's a bug though or if engineers just wanted you to not have the option ;) Why do you think they removed it with the facelift? :(
@@jemand8462 hello again. Indeed it is a bug. The way Audi answered me, it is not a wanted feature. And for the facelift, all the owners have confirmed me that it is not working. All originals stated it is working :)
@@funcarreviews thanks for clarifying. One last question: Can you actually see how much you are recharging while braking? Is it 100% if you let go of the throttle completely? And is this the same amount you can achieve in "normal" mode by tapping the brake pedal?
(I'm asking all this because I'm about to buy one of these beauties ;)
Hello,
There are no precise indications (kw) while recuperating energy. You ll just have the needle going into the charge zone. The intensity will depend on your speed and if you fully release the gas pedal or not 😁. It will just not be the case if battery is full (for safety reasons). It needs to lose a couple of % first.
From what I remember, releasing the gas pedal with this bug, you ll be sure to maximize your charge possibility and saving your mechanical brakes.
If you are not in bug mode and you brake, you’ll have greater « risks » of braking with the mechanical breaks after a certains threshold that you might not always feel.
Don’t know If I am clear Aha. I have kept this car for 4 years before changing for the newer model a year ago.
So my memory is not the best. That s why I have tried to document most of the things on my videos for potential interested folks 😊😁
Doesn’t work on my 2018 😢
Indeed. It is not working on the 2018 facelift :(
@@funcarreviews i do notice some regen when in S mode though…better than nothing. I got this more for the overall driving experience more than phev (already have an ev and weekend nd2 anyway) love this audi phev version of the gti 😃
@siddarthaone7355 indeed it ll help anyway but ICE has to be on.
Regen B mode should be possible, at least, all the time the car is using the EV motor independently of the driving mode (M D S). It seems that Audi has separated the S mode and EV and what you discovered is a workaround (not a regen B mode).
Can you use the S mode along with the Hybrid Auto? I guess not
Does the user manual indicate the M mode? Does it mean the car does not shift gears in the M mode?
Well actually it really is a bug and really a Regen B mode / (take the GTE as an exemple witch as a B mode For EV and that behaves like I explained, if you had the opportunity to drive it). Without this bug, Regen mode is only possible going down a hill or to use the S mode which will trigger the ICE. S EV (this bug) is the only way to have a 1 pedal driving style with Regen while on Fully EV. And this is only possible with the first gen A3 etron.
@@funcarreviews thx. Does it mean that no battery regeneration in D/M & EV/Hybrid Auto mode?
@@m.bouanane4455 Well it's a bit complicated to answer.
Battery can be charged a bit while driving in any mode, depending on how you drive it and how the car decides to handle it.
Regen will always happen WHEN you press on the brake pedal.
Regen WITHOUT pressing the brake pedal will happen :
1) in any mode if you are downhilling.
2) in M Mode at any time
3) in D hybrid charge mode at any time
4) in S hybrid hold mode at any time
5) in S EV mode at any time
On flat surfaces, regen WITHOUT pressing the brake pedal will not happen :
1) In D EV mode
2) In D Hybrid auto mode
3) In D Hybrid hold mode
Hope it's a bit clearer despite the long answer ;)
@@funcarreviews
Thx. Indeed it answers both comments.
Your car is from which year? I see you have paddle shifters. Does that comes with the s line?
Hello,
It s the 2015 model.
I do not remember if they come by default with the S-Line 😅
@@funcarreviews no they do not- my Sline has no paddles
Not Working at my 2017 Etron
Hello,
Indeed, only for the 2015 version. :)
Tu es français? Je l'entends à l'accent et aux "euh" qui ne trompent pas lol
Merci pour la video, mm si je ne possède pas du tout cette voiture
aniki937 aha de Genève chère Môsieur 😅🤣
Merci pour ton commentaire
What's the mileage on your car?
Hello Dani,
In summer :
EV : 35-40 KM
In winter :
EV : 25-30
With heating, around 20-25 (i m usually not using the heating, unless extremely cold)
In General :
Hybrid Hold : around 600 KM and between 5.5-6 L / 100 KM
sorry. i miss understood. i v got 40000 KM
My Golf GTE has a D/B mode on shifter. There is no sport mode. :D the other way around
But you have a GTE mode 🤣
do you know how to put the s-tronic in Sport-mode?
I m not sure to understand your question.
For which model ?
@@funcarreviews For the E-tron a3, how to put it in S-1 instead of D1?
When the gear shift is in D, just push it down one more time. It will bring it to S, put the car in Hybrid hold and turn on the fuel engine when driving
I am kinda of frustrated with this car, I have 2017 model e-tron,
I really could not figure it out "what is the best driving mode on highway/motorways for long distance journeys?"
To me personally, it seems D-mode with regen. but unfortunately, it is possible only with a work around - transmission in d-mode and than from driving mode, switch to dynamic mode, however, i am not sure about fuel economy in this mode. I mean switching to "dynamic driving mode" might suck more fuel up I guess?
You showed in one of ur videos about the real time fuel consumption? I tried today but it seems not plausible or not showing what I wanted! Do I have to change some kinda of settings?
Pure electric mode is just a "selling slogan" when you drive on highway in this car!
Battery hold mode is the most "horrible" in terms of fuel economy.
Hello,
Yes, the D-mode with regen or S EV is a bug that i have discovered only affecting the 2015 version.
There are no such thing on the 2017 unfortunately.
If the 2017 is the same for the 2015 in terms of driving mode with drive select, it should have no effect on the car at all in terms of fuel economy (i m explaining it on one of the videos, i ll give you the link).
To make it short to have the best fuel efficiency :
- Use EV in city (don't use the heater or AC (or even the ventilation completely) if you want some real EV range difference)
- Use Hybrid Auto on highways
- Avoid battery hold (you sometimes drive in electric with it, and it allows you to have more of a "normal" car in terms of fuel consumption. So you can get up to around 600 KM with one full tank and a couple of charges)
- And the 2017 doesn't have the battery charge anyway
The pure electric has only some sense to the consumer if you can charge it everyday. Otherwise, it's just an expensive car to avoid if you can't. My personal belief is that the car could have achieved better if the hybrid more was better electronically developed.
There are quite some infos on the videos + the description. I list all the "bad things" of the car, the fuel consumption...
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You know that when u put it in "hybrid charge" it brakes automatically when releasing your foot lol that is the b-mode you're looking for
Jones B
Hello,
Not really the same because I m talking about having the B mode WHILE being in EV.
Hybrid charge will activate the ICE and the facelift version of this car don’t have the charge mode
@@funcarreviews oh ok, but like you said in the video, it's probably not the best for your car otherwise they would have made it stock. I have this car aswell but barely use it in ev mode, i'm either on hybrid charge or hybrid mode as I think using it fully ev mode will damage the battery overtime
Jones B
Actually I have never seen a hybrid without this mode. The car is clearly unfinished. The Golf GTE ans Audi share the exact same system but the electronic that manages them is different. I have extensively used the B mode downhilling for 15 Km and I had no problem. The ICE will turn on if overcharging might come. It has been well thought but unfinished (don’t have the KW consumption for example). Battery will wear out in any case but it s good to discharge and charge the car. They have a battery buffer in order to avoid damaging the battery if you run too often on EV and you use all the battery.
Anyway, you lose 2% of battery capacity per year (battery degradation) and I wouldn’t keep those kind of cars after 5-6 years in order to avoid battery problem on the long run.
Of the 8.8Kwh, only around 7.7 is usable.
@@funcarreviews yeah what you're saying makes sense, you seem to know a lot about the car. I have a question about the car for some time now, when I cold start the car in the morning and start driving on ev without even running the petrol engine, and the electricity runs out on the highway and the car suddenly changes to the untouched cold petrol engine, is that bad or does the car somehow when you drive on electricity keep the petrol engine warm as you drive. Do you know what I mean?
Jones B
Yep I understand what you mean.
I don’t have the answer but once again I think the car is unfinished. I don’t think that the ICE would be preheated electrically or through the heat generated by the EV motor.
Toyota for example in normal hybrid let’s the ICE run a couple of minutes in the void (not engaged to the gear system) before you can really use it which is very smart.
I did experience that too in the Audi but very very very very less often.
Usually it just kicks in engaged to the gear.
I m not sure if how it is done for the ICE on the Audi is good because not only you don’t have the temperature but most probably the oil never reached the fuel engine before it engages the ICE. It seems like a complete cold start.
The least worst should be that when it kicks in you are on low RPM.
I also do hope that the engine is more resistant because unless you make long trips with the ICE always on, the oil temperature is always low (around 50-70 degrees Celsius in winter city driving in hybrid hold )
I ll ask Audi when I can
You’re in B mode when you press down the gear leaver downwords.
Hello,
This is not the same because the gears are not handled like it should be. You would be in M(anual) mode and not D(rive) mode which is totally different. (if this is what you meant).
If in M and you are too fast, the gear won't upshift at the right moment because the thresholds are not the same for the gears between ICE and EV engines, and if the ICE kicks in at the wrong time on you will worn the engine as high reving with cold engine might occur. This bug only exists on this model and not the facelift. Only the Golf GTE of same period which has the same architecture has a real implemented B mode with the lever. The Audi does not and NONE of them have it. Now they have implemented some kind of dynamic B mode based on the onboard cameras and navigation system, with (i think) mode advanced features if a route has been configured (but this is even present on the Kia e-Nero in some way).
Although i love this car and have this car myself, it is definitely unfinished and was pushed into production because of the GTE rival (in my opinion).
What’s the “B mode?”
it allows the car to brake using the electric motor instead of the brakes as soon as you lift your foot off the gas pedal. you have a better regen and save on brakes
@@funcarreviews should you use the b mode in s or d mode if you want to be efficient?
Hello,
This B mode is a bug, and works with the S mode only. So you can be in S EV or S (with ICE) but this last one is just normal.
The efficiency part is more of a debate actually. Some will say it can be less efficient but that depends on the regen efficiency of the car (how good it is implemented). It is possible there is little gain on this car but at least you can drive with only one pedal and have a smoother ride.
It exists by just pressing the brake lol
It is not the same thing 😉
bollocks
Why so ? 😅