Glad I found this video. I started my golf obsession 18 years ago and very quickly started using Titleist forged MB irons that had DGS300´s. Switched from these after two years for a set of TaylorMade RAC MBs with DGX100´s. Really couldnt tell much difference distance-wise, maybe slightly lower ball-flight with X100s but also felt I could hit draw/fade easier with the S300s. However, this was 8 years ago since I picked up a golf club and now Im right back into it again, Im going with the S300s: Im less flexible, a touch slower and no need to lean on iron shots!
I swing a 7 iron at 90-93mph recently fitted for S300’s I can play X100 but just feel over 18 or 36 holes repeatedly playing shots S300’s worked better for me and can swing more consistently and control my swing more. Great video as well 👌🏻
I was hitting R300 with crazy high spin rates, so got a fitting recently and the numbers pointed me towards P790 with X100 shafts. I can now control the flight so much better and have picked up a good club and half to two clubs distance throughout the iron bag. I would never never have dreamt of hitting this shaft without a numbers fitting, but 6 rounds in, I absolutely love them.
I'm playing R300 too. I hit the ball too high often. I'm scratch, but feel I should try X100 and maybe blades. I wants smaller faces. Do they feel "boardy" or just close to S300?
James, When I returned to golf the golf shop suggested irons with Matrix graphite shafts 65gm, regular. However much I tried I couldn't get along with them and was beginning to think about giving up altogether when someone suggested a club fitter in my area. The result having tried a lot of shafts and heads was a Steel Nippon Zelos 7 Stiff from 5 to PW with Zelos 8 in my 4 iron and Wedges. I am far from perfect but a lot better than I was, the rest can hopefully be solved by lessons. My advice to the older golfer is don't be afraid of a steel shaft or a stiff steel shaft, its about balance and control for me and I can feel where the club head is now, such a relief.
I went from a Uni-flex shaft on my old irons ('06 Big Bertha) to Project X 6.0 (X-Forged '18). And it has been remarkable how much of a positive difference it has made to my game! Consistency, feedback and feel! I should also add that I swing my 7 iron at an average of 102mph.
I play Px 6.0, have 95mph swing speed with 7i, Callaway 2009 x forged and they balloon sooooo bad. I can't wait to change them out. Can't imagine how they act for you at 102mph.
Project X Rifles 6.0. I was fitted for them when I bought my Mizuno MP-5. I just trusted the fitter and I must say that years later with these irons, I still thank him for the wonderful results I get from my irons ...
Nice job, it doesnt take 20 minutes like other videos. Like to see for us older guys who've always played stiff shafts. 300 vs R shaft.Thanks, enjoy your stuff. CHEERS!
I always used Dynamic Gold S300 shafts until recently. I've been in the gym regularly for almost 3 years now and as a result I've been fitted into X-Flex shafts across the board. My shafts now are X Flex KBS Tour 130 (1x soft stepped)! So they aren't true X Flex but.....almost!
I"d always used stiff graphite shafts in my irons, but the latest set I chose because of $$$ and they had regular shafts. Took a little getting used to, but I can make the ball do almost anything I want it to. As you say, it all comes down to feel. JM2C
Currently playing X100 AMT, like the stability in the lower irons where with the longer irons I can focus on making good ball contact with a smoother swing. Was fitted, 7 iron 7300 spin and 50 degree landing angle.
I think tempo and feel are important factors. I have the swing speed and distance for X shafts but I play a mix of R300s and S300. I have a very slow take away (think of a Matsuyana or Freddy swing) and prefer the feel of the club lag for me. Shafts really are a preference so try them before you buy if you can! And some Tour Pros play regular shafts so its all up to what works for you!
I was fitted with the Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 shafts at Mizuno Atlanta, Ga using Swing DNA. Even across the three suggested shafts the x-stiff Modus tightened the dispersion noticeably.
I got Fitted for the c taper x 130 in 718 ap2 used to play 710 ap2 s rifle 7.0 find now my dispersion has tightened as I have been able to take some spin off . I now swing less aggressively now due to the balance of the c taper shafts . Really love the look of the satin finish too . Enjoyed your vid once again 👍🙂
I gamed S300s my whole life until I went for a Mizuno fitting last year with their swing DNA, they put me in the AMTX100 and straight away my issue with going left almost disappeared; my miss has gone from a snappy hook to a block and I'm happy to live with that, although my stock shot has progressed from a baby draw to straight-ish which has taken me longer to get used to, and I thought I'd lose some feel with an X but I can play all my feel shots without issue. Stoked I got fitted and made the change, 30 years of working it out myself was sorted in 30 minutes
I have used s300 and then I made a switch to the lz shafts 6.0. I did try the x100 in 718mb irons at a demo day. I have to say I prefer the feel of the x100 I said to the fitter that I felt more insync with my self and felt a lot better with the quality of my swing. So if I did a blind test I would say x100 all day for my self but to me for fitting it’s all about players feel. Not so much for numbers. If you have a half decent player and willing to work on your swing then a good golf coach is all you need to fix your numbers.
Interesting test. I have S300 shafts in one set, and X100 rifle shafts in another set (AP2s) I accidentally bent the shaft in the 7 iron in the rifle shafted AP2s but I´ve never really liked those anyway as the swing weight felt heavier. Putting a S300 in the AP2 7 iron made it feel much more playable as they seem to give me a higher launch. That might be just me that´s used to them but they definitely feel better to me.
If you play for fun, and are running out of the car to the first tee, or can't hit 60 balls on the range before each round starts, then DG 120 S300 all day long - that was the recommended fitted shaft by the computer on my new Mizuno Hot Metal Pros and that's what I went with - it's stiff enough and I carry my 5 iron 197yards at a weakened 24 degrees loft. If I was competing, and had time to warm up before each round, there isn't even a question, X shafts all day long. Why? - because they 100% are more controllable reducing excessive curvature and they are more consistent front to back yardage wise. My older clubs are Original Generation Titleist AP2s with Project X 6.5s (I really love that shaft). I never felt that shaft was stiff - it just works. What it does do is give me an exact repeatable carry distance on my irons - but that combo isn't long - but it is 100% repeatable. If money isn't an issue, I would actually encourage most people to go with new 'player' quality graphite shafts.
I got fitted for a KBS C-Taper S that's being hard-stepped. Reason being that I prefer the feel of a stiffer than stiff shaft, but with most models that means an increase in weight. This way, I get a stiffer shaft with the same weight - brilliant. Go get fitted!
Just ordered JPX 919 Forged with Nippon NS PRO modus 3 120g X flex shafts in! Was fitted at tour X golf by nick hibbs unbelievable experience and would recommend him to anyone!!!
Mr. Robinson- Interesting evaluation. A suggestion might be to test the extra-stiff shaft vs. a "Senior Flex" to emphasize any differences. Thanks, Bob
I just got fitted for a set of irons this year (Mizuno MP-18 MMC). I used Mizuno's swing DNA shaft fitting device to get fit. I was using TT XP115 S300, and just lost the feel for the shaft. I don't hit really far, between 150 - 160 yard carry for a 7 iron. I was expecting to get fit into a Project Rifle, which is a shaft I had used in the past. To my surprise, I was fit for a NS Modus 3 105 in X. I was told it was because of my load characteristics, not the swing speed as to why the X was suggested. I tried the Modus 3 105 in both S and X flex for the next hour. I was bit more consistent with the X, but it felt boardy and my miss was right. The S had more "flex flow", but my miss was more left...which I hate. I settled for a hard stepped S. Really like the shaft decision. Go get fit...you never know what you'll find.
I know this video has some age but unless I'm mistaken there is no stiffness standard across shaft manufacturers. If you select KBS / X it will play differently than a TT / X shaft. Give me your thoughts.
I have x stiff in driver and 3 wood. DG S300 in my irons and has been for 20 years or so. I tried 6.5 rifle shafts but much prefer the feel and feedback of the S300. Another cool video James, have you done vokeys vs hi toe wedges? Would be interested as I'm thinking seriously about getting some hi toe. Cheers👍🏼
Using KBS Tour 120 stiff in the Apex pro. Previously used project X 6.0 in last set but found the KBS to be a little less harsh and more responsive especially when not swinging my best. They also performed best during the fitting. Great video once again.
Just reshafted my Mizuno MP-67 musclebacks with Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 from the stock Dynamic Gold S300 shafts. If you’re gonna go Dynamic Gold X100, you may as well go Tour Issue if you have the money to do so.
As always, excellent video. Just keeps getting better and better. Please please please review the new Srixon range, if I need to, I will mail you the 5 iron and 7 iron out of my 585/785 combo set lol I promise you will fall in love with the 7 series. Played Mizuno all my life and these Srixon’s are just superior to everything out there in the market right now, think MP line mixed with a touch of Miura.
That’s a really steep and aggressive take away. You really get down and through it beautifully though. That’s some green holding trajectory for sure. I struggle with a flat takeaway and lower trajectory. That move you do with your hands to queue the takeaway, really sets you on a steeper angle going back. Might have to try something similar to create that feel.
Shafts make all the difference and getting the flex correct is the most important one. When I was in my mid to early thirties I played steel rifle shafts. They were firm but not stiff. Then went to regular as the shafts have green stiffer over the years. I now play graphite regulars shafts in my cobra King cobra F8 irons. Still trying to get used to the feel. They feel lighter than steel.
I play kbs tour in my irons at x flex. They are plus 1 1/2 inches above standard ,so they probably play a little softer. I was fitted for these shafts and I love the feel of them
I’ve had both, prefer the tighter dispersion of the x100, but I find I have to work really hard to move the ball sideways, when you do though, you can trust it won’t go too far.
What's written on the shaft makes no difference. It's one of the biggest annoyances in golf...there's no standard for shaft flex. It would be much better if all the manufacturers got together and agreed to use CPM rather than A, R, S and XS as a desegregation of flex. Nice video again James.
@Huw chardon Agreed 100% there. It really needs to be some sort of standard for the shaft manufacturers to work to...there is so much technology and R&D goes into producing shafts they need to give us, as their customers, some form of standard they'll all work to it'll help us all out
@Huw chardon I just remembered a video Ive watched from Mike at Golfholics. They go to Fujikura in San Diego for a driver shaft fitting. Great video for the golf geek that likes to see how shafts are made, measured and even assessed against models from other companies...give it a 'coat of looking at' here th-cam.com/video/SR48Nex9CMM/w-d-xo.html hopefully the link works for you!
i'd like to see you do this with all kinds of shafts... so you just hit a 7 iron with xstiff, stiff, normal, and then the senior or something... to see what the actual difference is across more than 2 variations
X100 more consistent and a much higher spin rate for going into greens ok maybe not for links golf but overall on that swing today maybe you should consider x100 for a trial period could be the answer! Very enjoyable video James. Got to go so let’s do it now👍😂
James Robinson Golf Are you playing west lancs with Liam next month? Hopefully I’ll make it and I’ll introduce myself if your there as I really enjoy your videos and I know it’s very time consuming.
James Robinson Golf forgot to mention James I had a hole in one in Saturdays comp shame I didn’t play well other than that, 151 yards 14th hole at Northumberland GC received a email off HowDidiDo.com saying I’ll receive a boss watch for my achievement once it’s confirmed by the club. That’s number 3 for me but I had to wait about 35 years for the first one! Just thought I’d mention it, how many have you had off the back tees? But your just a young lad interested to know tho just out of interest. Cheers mate.
I always fade the ball with s300 shafts. . . X100 shafts. I dont.... I like the consistency of the stiffer shaft. Throughout the set. I played s400 shafts for a long time. Those were damn good. I want to try the x7 series shafts. Havent had my swing speed tested in 10 years. But I'm sure it's still a good bit above 100
James in a cap 🧢 😂. I could play x flex through the whole of my bag and I don’t because I hate the feel of x flex so I play a kbs c tapper lite in my irons and ping tour S in my woods and love them and have seen no performance difference at all but I do believe in custom fitting
Used same irons for 10 years, Titleist ap2 1st version from 2010, got project X 5.5, swing the driver around 100mph so borderline for 5.5's but I like to fade them so went with those
Loving your videos, I play senior graphite, only because of Arthritis, was regular steel, now I just don’t the distance using steel and regular, apart from on a JPX900 demo 6 iron, it felt good ( can’t remember shaft weight), next year JPX919 with graphite senior not because I have to, because I want to 👍🏽
Great video James, also watched the driver shaft comparison... I play off 5 handicap and I have always played stiff shafts in irons and woods. Im 5ft 7 and was over 12 stone, driver swing was always average 103mph lost weight down to 10 stone speed went to 100mph been at gym over a year, now at 11 stone, speed up to 108mph and climbing. I have xp 95 stiff in callalway apex irons and stiff tensei in ping g with average carry of 260 yards ... I hit all really good, but some big pulls on irons now and again... Should I have a look at a session on a flight monitor with extra stiff?
This has been by far my enemy this year. Was fitted for a S300 then found out a c taper then I go to another person and they said I should use a Project X 6.5. I just got them in so I will see how that goes. Fitters can’t always be right but maybe the 3rd one can 😁🏌️
Can you do a video on shaft weight ? Ive been getting lessons trewout the summer this year, because my swing went to complete junk. Went from 90-91 6 iron speed, to could hardly get the ball airborn and sub 80 swing with a 6 iron. It was getting so bad i thought about just quitting golf. Went to a new trainer, and we have slowly been getting my swing back together over the summer. Then a few days ago i went for another lesson, and i had started to battle with huge over draws, and my trainer couldnt figure out why, because i was putting good swings on the balls, and the numbers where decent, but my swing speed had increased, since the last time i went for a lesson. 88 ish with a 6 iron now. So he looked closly at the recording and asked me to hit some balls with a 919 tour and didnt say anything about what shaft he gave me. I started hitting small draws again. He said he gave me a dynamic gold x-stiff 125gram shaft and my own shaft is a nippon 950gh wich is sub 100grams i belive Honestly i couldnt feel the difference in flex, but it was pretty clear, when watching the recordings, that my own shaft was bending alot, but the weight difference felt much much nicer. Didnt feel like i had to force the swing, and i didnt loose any swing speed, even though there was a good 30 gram difference in the shafts. That really opened my eyes, since i couldnt tell the difference in flex, but the weight made a huge difference ! And the heavier shafts gave me a much nicer tempo in the swing You can probely get used to anything, because you start to do things in your swing, if the shaft doesnt fit you to compensate ( weight wise, still not sold on the flex thing ) Sorry for the loooong ramble, but a video on shaft weight would be more interresting, then flex !
@@JamesRobinsonGolf thanks mate, they just felt better than the hot metal and the forged, although nice to hit, were 10 yards down and my dispersion was better with the pings
@Huw chardon great choice dude...loved the feel, sound and performance. I wasn't after extra yardage, as with my back i can't swing fast, but I have gained 10 yards over my steelhead xr's and my dispersion is so much tighter. Good luck with the new bats
Hi James i am enjoying your content testing different clubs and brands keep it up. NS PRO Modus Tour 120S with Srixon 765 head regards Rob Canberra Australia
I have always played regular shafts, apart from a hybrid which was a stiff shaft. I have an average swing speed (77 mph in 7i) which I am trying to speed up (I can hope!!). Yet the stiff shaft in the hybrid always felt nicer. For me the biggest issue is the shaft weight. I play a 65g graphite shaft in my M1s. It is very nice. My club pro shop has the 919 Forged and Tour in as 7i demo clubs so I tried them out. The demo 919 Forged was in a 95g steel shaft - that thing felt so heavy, in fact all I could feel was the weight of the shaft. Oddly though it made no difference to distance and the 919 Forged was an incredibly straight hitting club, I really struggled to put any shape on the ball.
I got my irons second hand with ref flex before I really knew anything about shafts etc I had a fitting yesterday and I swing the 7 iron 99mph so all this time I should have had x stiff. Hopefully explains the inconsistency
I’ve been using s300 shafts in my TaylorMade tour preferred MC and I’m finding that my shots this season are flying much higher as well as spinning high and I’m losing a full club distance because of it. Do you think using an x stiff shaft flex could fix this issue? PS I use an X flex in both my driver and 5 wood
I play off 1 , I'm 58 and have a swing speed of 80 mph with a 7 iron , every fitting I go to put me in reg , then I get my 718 mb irons out with s300 and I hit them alot better , can anyone explain to me why because fitters can't , I'm quite big built being an ex boxer but would that change anything , I'm lost any help would be brilliant Ty Jules ......
If anyone is lost like I was (sounds like a Jehova's witness start) before I got custom fit - this might be helpful: Club head speed 7 iron: 86-88 MPH - got recommended S300 which I got together with new P790s. Club head speed driver: 98-100 MPH - got recommended a stiff Tensei 55g What I find a bit odd is despite your slightly faster CHS of 92-ish MPH compared to my 87-ish, I hit my 7i around 160 meters (175 yards) - although with my previous irons, XR, which are cavity filled. Didn't hit my new P790 much shorter, just a few meters but I just found it surprising you hit your 7i roughly 150 meters with a 5 MPH swing speed difference. This concludes my essay no one will read. :)
I normally play a seniors or a regular flex shaft, depending on the outside temp and how the old bones feel that day. I tried a x-stiff graphite shaft I put in a 4i. HAHA felt and looked like I was using a pool que.
I use to measure via my swing rate.. Clubhead speed kinda things.. So if my clubhead speed is less than 100mph should a regular just be enough for me? Hope for an advice.. Thx
Callaway rogue x xp 105 stepless s300 great shaft had kbs 120g on my taylormades tour preferred mc’s can feel the difference in weight between them.lighter shaft suits me better 47 now need all the help i can get play off 7.
This is a little weird, a few months ago I was using S-300 shafts in my clubs and went to see if I would fit into a different shaft. Long story short, I tested 4 different shaft companies in Stiff and their X-stiff options. I end up with X-100 shafts and my irons are more consistent and my misses are a lot smaller. I am also writing this before I fully watched the video. So, I am curious to see what you have to say. Thanks for the great videos!
I was fitted for 1" longer kuru kage stiff graphite shafts in my 5-pw irons my question is should i be using 1" longer shafts in my 3 wedges ? as at present they are std length (at bit off topic I know)
Recently I was fitted for my current irons, (Touredge HL3) and was recommended KBS Tour 90 in stiff. Now I just need to see if they compare to my current Wilson Ultra BLK uniflex shaft. Still new to the game.
Can you do a program with the lighter Dynamic Gold shafts like the 110 and 95 comparing them to other similar weight shafts in R, S and XS if applicable.
Hi I love your videos, what are the dig=ffrence between, KBS, Project X, and Nippon Shafts, I know they all caterfor all golfers but which is better and would you choose.
Side note: you start you're backswing with you're hands.. you pronate your wrists just prior to rotating your hips and raising your arms... is this recommended to help with the swing? Or just an idiosyncrasy?
I have yonex vmass tour irons i bought off the shelf alota years ago when i was in my 20’s and a beginner golfer. They have x100u shafts. I dont hit the ball overly far but i find now i hit the ball shorter and i changed grips that took 5-10 yards off my yardage. I dont understand the stiffness. Should i be try something different
KBS C taper lite 110 in S flex; however think that a Nippon GSH950 Staff or graphite is better suited to me as hit my Yonex's better than current Srixons.
I have light weight iron shafts (95g) but think I may be better off with something a bit heavier. I'm physically strong enough it's just my technique which restricts my swing speed. I have found heavier shafts feel better but every iron fitting I've had they all lean to lighter (stiff) shafts? I don't know why?
I have uniflex shafts in the clubs I started with and can't really hit them hard or it just ends horribly. I almost want something that can cut through the ground after I hit the ball. I should probably get fit for a shaft but I feel like extra stiff would be my best option. I already tried the kbs tour 90 in stuff it it didn't seem to change much.
Glad I found this video.
I started my golf obsession 18 years ago and very quickly started using Titleist forged MB irons that had DGS300´s.
Switched from these after two years for a set of TaylorMade RAC MBs with DGX100´s.
Really couldnt tell much difference distance-wise, maybe slightly lower ball-flight with X100s but also felt I could hit draw/fade easier with the S300s.
However, this was 8 years ago since I picked up a golf club and now Im right back into it again, Im going with the S300s: Im less flexible, a touch slower and no need to lean on iron shots!
I swing a 7 iron at 90-93mph recently fitted for S300’s I can play X100 but just feel over 18 or 36 holes repeatedly playing shots S300’s worked better for me and can swing more consistently and control my swing more.
Great video as well 👌🏻
Thanks Kieron!
Nippon Modus3 Tour 105 in all my irons and wedges. Fitted for them at Tour X. They also felt the best out of all the shafts that I tried. Love em.
Would have been nice, if you tell what FLEX your were using
I was hitting R300 with crazy high spin rates, so got a fitting recently and the numbers pointed me towards P790 with X100 shafts.
I can now control the flight so much better and have picked up a good club and half to two clubs distance throughout the iron bag.
I would never never have dreamt of hitting this shaft without a numbers fitting, but 6 rounds in, I absolutely love them.
I'm playing R300 too. I hit the ball too high often. I'm scratch, but feel I should try X100 and maybe blades. I wants smaller faces. Do they feel "boardy" or just close to S300?
James, When I returned to golf the golf shop suggested irons with Matrix graphite shafts 65gm, regular. However much I tried I couldn't get along with them and was beginning to think about giving up altogether when someone suggested a club fitter in my area. The result having tried a lot of shafts and heads was a Steel Nippon Zelos 7 Stiff from 5 to PW with Zelos 8 in my 4 iron and Wedges. I am far from perfect but a lot better than I was, the rest can hopefully be solved by lessons. My advice to the older golfer is don't be afraid of a steel shaft or a stiff steel shaft, its about balance and control for me and I can feel where the club head is now, such a relief.
Gary Cumberland ==
I went from a Uni-flex shaft on my old irons ('06 Big Bertha) to Project X 6.0 (X-Forged '18). And it has been remarkable how much of a positive difference it has made to my game! Consistency, feedback and feel!
I should also add that I swing my 7 iron at an average of 102mph.
Wow. 7iron average 102... you’re BK ?
I play Px 6.0, have 95mph swing speed with 7i, Callaway 2009 x forged and they balloon sooooo bad. I can't wait to change them out. Can't imagine how they act for you at 102mph.
Can you do a project x lz 6.0 vs dg s300 or lz 6.5 vs x100 shaft comparison?
Project X Rifles 6.0. I was fitted for them when I bought my Mizuno MP-5. I just trusted the fitter and I must say that years later with these irons, I still thank him for the wonderful results I get from my irons ...
Nice job, it doesnt take 20 minutes like other videos.
Like to see for us older guys who've always played stiff shafts.
300 vs R shaft.Thanks, enjoy your stuff. CHEERS!
X100 AMT. Love the weight differential through the bag
play with s300 for last 15 years Callaway x18s 70 years young, shot gross 71 and 72 recently love em!
I always used Dynamic Gold S300 shafts until recently. I've been in the gym regularly for almost 3 years now and as a result I've been fitted into X-Flex shafts across the board. My shafts now are X Flex KBS Tour 130 (1x soft stepped)! So they aren't true X Flex but.....almost!
Nice!!!
I"d always used stiff graphite shafts in my irons, but the latest set I chose because of $$$ and they had regular shafts. Took a little getting used to, but I can make the ball do almost anything I want it to. As you say, it all comes down to feel. JM2C
Currently playing X100 AMT, like the stability in the lower irons where with the longer irons I can focus on making good ball contact with a smoother swing. Was fitted, 7 iron 7300 spin and 50 degree landing angle.
I think tempo and feel are important factors. I have the swing speed and distance for X shafts but I play a mix of R300s and S300. I have a very slow take away (think of a Matsuyana or Freddy swing) and prefer the feel of the club lag for me. Shafts really are a preference so try them before you buy if you can! And some Tour Pros play regular shafts so its all up to what works for you!
I was fitted with the Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 shafts at Mizuno Atlanta, Ga using Swing DNA. Even across the three suggested shafts the x-stiff Modus tightened the dispersion noticeably.
Murray Platts How far do you hit you driver? And do you compress the ball well with irons?
I got Fitted for the c taper x 130 in 718 ap2 used to play 710 ap2 s rifle 7.0 find now my dispersion has tightened as I have been able to take some spin off . I now swing less aggressively now due to the balance of the c taper shafts . Really love the look of the satin finish too . Enjoyed your vid once again 👍🙂
I gamed S300s my whole life until I went for a Mizuno fitting last year with their swing DNA, they put me in the AMTX100 and straight away my issue with going left almost disappeared; my miss has gone from a snappy hook to a block and I'm happy to live with that, although my stock shot has progressed from a baby draw to straight-ish which has taken me longer to get used to, and I thought I'd lose some feel with an X but I can play all my feel shots without issue. Stoked I got fitted and made the change, 30 years of working it out myself was sorted in 30 minutes
I have used s300 and then I made a switch to the lz shafts 6.0. I did try the x100 in 718mb irons at a demo day. I have to say I prefer the feel of the x100 I said to the fitter that I felt more insync with my self and felt a lot better with the quality of my swing. So if I did a blind test I would say x100 all day for my self but to me for fitting it’s all about players feel. Not so much for numbers. If you have a half decent player and willing to work on your swing then a good golf coach is all you need to fix your numbers.
Interesting test. I have S300 shafts in one set, and X100 rifle shafts in another set (AP2s) I accidentally bent the shaft in the 7 iron in the rifle shafted AP2s but I´ve never really liked those anyway as the swing weight felt heavier. Putting a S300 in the AP2 7 iron made it feel much more playable as they seem to give me a higher launch. That might be just me that´s used to them but they definitely feel better to me.
I’d love to see a video on how to read greens properly as I seem to struggle with that!
Have you tried Aimpoint mate
James Robinson Golf I’ve been trying aimpoint and have been holing so many putts thanks James!!
I have the S300 and they're extremely consistent.
Great video as always. I play Modus 120 X-stiff in my irons and absolutely love them!
Another great informative vlog pal . Keep up the great work . Won’t be long now before I book in for a lesson 🤪😁
If you play for fun, and are running out of the car to the first tee, or can't hit 60 balls on the range before each round starts, then DG 120 S300 all day long - that was the recommended fitted shaft by the computer on my new Mizuno Hot Metal Pros and that's what I went with - it's stiff enough and I carry my 5 iron 197yards at a weakened 24 degrees loft. If I was competing, and had time to warm up before each round, there isn't even a question, X shafts all day long. Why? - because they 100% are more controllable reducing excessive curvature and they are more consistent front to back yardage wise. My older clubs are Original Generation Titleist AP2s with Project X 6.5s (I really love that shaft). I never felt that shaft was stiff - it just works. What it does do is give me an exact repeatable carry distance on my irons - but that combo isn't long - but it is 100% repeatable. If money isn't an issue, I would actually encourage most people to go with new 'player' quality graphite shafts.
I got fitted for a KBS C-Taper S that's being hard-stepped. Reason being that I prefer the feel of a stiffer than stiff shaft, but with most models that means an increase in weight. This way, I get a stiffer shaft with the same weight - brilliant. Go get fitted!
Just ordered JPX 919 Forged with Nippon NS PRO modus 3 120g X flex shafts in! Was fitted at tour X golf by nick hibbs unbelievable experience and would recommend him to anyone!!!
Mr. Robinson- Interesting evaluation. A suggestion might be to test the extra-stiff shaft vs. a "Senior Flex" to emphasize any differences. Thanks, Bob
I just got fitted for a set of irons this year (Mizuno MP-18 MMC). I used Mizuno's swing DNA shaft fitting device to get fit. I was using TT XP115 S300, and just lost the feel for the shaft. I don't hit really far, between 150 - 160 yard carry for a 7 iron. I was expecting to get fit into a Project Rifle, which is a shaft I had used in the past. To my surprise, I was fit for a NS Modus 3 105 in X. I was told it was because of my load characteristics, not the swing speed as to why the X was suggested. I tried the Modus 3 105 in both S and X flex for the next hour. I was bit more consistent with the X, but it felt boardy and my miss was right. The S had more "flex flow", but my miss was more left...which I hate. I settled for a hard stepped S. Really like the shaft decision. Go get fit...you never know what you'll find.
PX 5.5. Great from 7 down. A bit hard work in 4-6. Will demo Modus 105, DG 105 and KBS Tour in regular for 2019s weapons.
Project X 6.0. Sleek straight shaft and the balance on my Taylormade MB tour preferred irons are on point.
I know this video has some age but unless I'm mistaken there is no stiffness standard across shaft manufacturers. If you select KBS / X it will play differently than a TT / X shaft.
Give me your thoughts.
Interesting they are the same weight. Usually the x is heavier than the s which is where I would notice the difference
I have x stiff in driver and 3 wood. DG S300 in my irons and has been for 20 years or so. I tried 6.5 rifle shafts but much prefer the feel and feedback of the S300. Another cool video James, have you done vokeys vs hi toe wedges? Would be interested as I'm thinking seriously about getting some hi toe. Cheers👍🏼
use the same shafts in my ap3's. Best shafts I have ever used.
Using KBS Tour 120 stiff in the Apex pro. Previously used project X 6.0 in last set but found the KBS to be a little less harsh and more responsive especially when not swinging my best. They also performed best during the fitting. Great video once again.
Currently using the original rifle 6.0 flighted shafts in my MP32 irons and I’m about too update them to the project X 6.0 in the next week or so
Just reshafted my Mizuno MP-67 musclebacks with Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 from the stock Dynamic Gold S300 shafts. If you’re gonna go Dynamic Gold X100, you may as well go Tour Issue if you have the money to do so.
As always, excellent video. Just keeps getting better and better. Please please please review the new Srixon range, if I need to, I will mail you the 5 iron and 7 iron out of my 585/785 combo set lol
I promise you will fall in love with the 7 series. Played Mizuno all my life and these Srixon’s are just superior to everything out there in the market right now, think MP line mixed with a touch of Miura.
That’s a really steep and aggressive take away. You really get down and through it beautifully though. That’s some green holding trajectory for sure. I struggle with a flat takeaway and lower trajectory. That move you do with your hands to queue the takeaway, really sets you on a steeper angle going back. Might have to try something similar to create that feel.
Shafts make all the difference and getting the flex correct is the most important one. When I was in my mid to early thirties I played steel rifle shafts. They were firm but not stiff. Then went to regular as the shafts have green stiffer over the years. I now play graphite regulars shafts in my cobra King cobra F8 irons. Still trying to get used to the feel. They feel lighter than steel.
I play kbs tour in my irons at x flex. They are plus 1 1/2 inches above standard ,so they probably play a little softer. I was fitted for these shafts and I love the feel of them
I’ve had both, prefer the tighter dispersion of the x100, but I find I have to work really hard to move the ball sideways, when you do though, you can trust it won’t go too far.
What's written on the shaft makes no difference. It's one of the biggest annoyances in golf...there's no standard for shaft flex. It would be much better if all the manufacturers got together and agreed to use CPM rather than A, R, S and XS as a desegregation of flex.
Nice video again James.
Cheers Kent! :)
@Huw chardon Agreed 100% there. It really needs to be some sort of standard for the shaft manufacturers to work to...there is so much technology and R&D goes into producing shafts they need to give us, as their customers, some form of standard they'll all work to it'll help us all out
@Huw chardon I just remembered a video Ive watched from Mike at Golfholics. They go to Fujikura in San Diego for a driver shaft fitting.
Great video for the golf geek that likes to see how shafts are made, measured and even assessed against models from other companies...give it a 'coat of looking at' here th-cam.com/video/SR48Nex9CMM/w-d-xo.html hopefully the link works for you!
With that strong swing you should always have xstiff in every clubs of your bag
Using KBS tour regular as far as I know they came like that off the shelf. I bought them sight unseen feel awesome go awesome wouldn't swap them.
Just bought the ap3's with the project x lz xtra stiff 120g. Love them. I hit so much better. Great videos bro
Played them both... S300 AMT now
i'd like to see you do this with all kinds of shafts... so you just hit a 7 iron with xstiff, stiff, normal, and then the senior or something... to see what the actual difference is across more than 2 variations
I’ve done it with driver mate. 👍🏼🔥
KBS Tour 90 Regular. I like the lighter feel and kick.
Nice Brent! Good man
Brent Reed
Same as me...i dont swing hard on iron shot...but everything else is xstiff......am i weird?
X100 more consistent and a much higher spin rate for going into greens ok maybe not for links golf but overall on that swing today maybe you should consider x100 for a trial period could be the answer! Very enjoyable video James. Got to go so let’s do it now👍😂
Hahahaha cheers Geordie!!!
James Robinson Golf Are you playing west lancs with Liam next month? Hopefully I’ll make it and I’ll introduce myself if your there as I really enjoy your videos and I know it’s very time consuming.
Geordie Sancaster I don’t think I am mate to be fair. I’ll message him
James Robinson Golf no problem James hopefully meet up next year.
James Robinson Golf forgot to mention James I had a hole in one in Saturdays comp shame I didn’t play well other than that, 151 yards 14th hole at Northumberland GC received a email off HowDidiDo.com saying I’ll receive a boss watch for my achievement once it’s confirmed by the club. That’s number 3 for me but I had to wait about 35 years for the first one! Just thought I’d mention it, how many have you had off the back tees? But your just a young lad interested to know tho just out of interest. Cheers mate.
I found this to br very interesting how ever i would be keen to see some putting videos tips and techniques good vid mate
Cheers mate. Noted
Its about feel....heck Justin Thomas hit a 300 yard 3 wood in a stiff last year at the UsOPen.
I always fade the ball with s300 shafts. . . X100 shafts. I dont.... I like the consistency of the stiffer shaft. Throughout the set. I played s400 shafts for a long time. Those were damn good. I want to try the x7 series shafts. Havent had my swing speed tested in 10 years. But I'm sure it's still a good bit above 100
Thanks for this James. I've always wondered. Could you try a regular shaft comparison?
James in a cap 🧢 😂. I could play x flex through the whole of my bag and I don’t because I hate the feel of x flex so I play a kbs c tapper lite in my irons and ping tour S in my woods and love them and have seen no performance difference at all but I do believe in custom fitting
Like it mate? Haha
I have regular flex because that's what my burner HT 's came with
Used same irons for 10 years, Titleist ap2 1st version from 2010, got project X 5.5, swing the driver around 100mph so borderline for 5.5's but I like to fade them so went with those
I'd love to see a head to head with some old school shafts like the ping zz lite with new shafts
S300 stock shaft. Does the trick for me.
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I would like to try the extra stiff shafts. Getting fitted soon and will look into it.
Loving your videos, I play senior graphite, only because of Arthritis, was regular steel, now I just don’t the distance using steel and regular, apart from on a JPX900 demo 6 iron, it felt good ( can’t remember shaft weight), next year JPX919 with graphite senior not because I have to, because I want to 👍🏽
fitted irons with regular shafts, actually had trouble hitting with them. used a friends irons with stiff shafts and hit the ball better.
Great video James, also watched the driver shaft comparison... I play off 5 handicap and I have always played stiff shafts in irons and woods. Im 5ft 7 and was over 12 stone, driver swing was always average 103mph lost weight down to 10 stone speed went to 100mph been at gym over a year, now at 11 stone, speed up to 108mph and climbing. I have xp 95 stiff in callalway apex irons and stiff tensei in ping g with average carry of 260 yards ... I hit all really good, but some big pulls on irons now and again... Should I have a look at a session on a flight monitor with extra stiff?
This has been by far my enemy this year. Was fitted for a S300 then found out a c taper then I go to another person and they said I should use a Project X 6.5. I just got them in so I will see how that goes. Fitters can’t always be right but maybe the 3rd one can 😁🏌️
My Callaway xr pro irons came with stiff shafts, i feel I've gained distance compared with reg 🏌️♂️
Getting fitted tomorrow and this really helped!!
Can you do a video on shaft weight ? Ive been getting lessons trewout the summer this year, because my swing went to complete junk. Went from 90-91 6 iron speed, to could hardly get the ball airborn and sub 80 swing with a 6 iron. It was getting so bad i thought about just quitting golf. Went to a new trainer, and we have slowly been getting my swing back together over the summer. Then a few days ago i went for another lesson, and i had started to battle with huge over draws, and my trainer couldnt figure out why, because i was putting good swings on the balls, and the numbers where decent, but my swing speed had increased, since the last time i went for a lesson. 88 ish with a 6 iron now. So he looked closly at the recording and asked me to hit some balls with a 919 tour and didnt say anything about what shaft he gave me. I started hitting small draws again. He said he gave me a dynamic gold x-stiff 125gram shaft and my own shaft is a nippon 950gh wich is sub 100grams i belive
Honestly i couldnt feel the difference in flex, but it was pretty clear, when watching the recordings, that my own shaft was bending alot, but the weight difference felt much much nicer. Didnt feel like i had to force the swing, and i didnt loose any swing speed, even though there was a good 30 gram difference in the shafts. That really opened my eyes, since i couldnt tell the difference in flex, but the weight made a huge difference ! And the heavier shafts gave me a much nicer tempo in the swing
You can probely get used to anything, because you start to do things in your swing, if the shaft doesnt fit you to compensate ( weight wise, still not sold on the flex thing )
Sorry for the loooong ramble, but a video on shaft weight would be more interresting, then flex !
Just ordered my new ping i500's with the dynamic gold 105 95gram r300....just felt better to me and my club pro agreed
Good work Graeme!
@@JamesRobinsonGolf thanks mate, they just felt better than the hot metal and the forged, although nice to hit, were 10 yards down and my dispersion was better with the pings
@Huw chardon great choice dude...loved the feel, sound and performance. I wasn't after extra yardage, as with my back i can't swing fast, but I have gained 10 yards over my steelhead xr's and my dispersion is so much tighter. Good luck with the new bats
Wild looking swing set club super early with a bit of twist on take off
Can you do a hard-step S300 vs a soft-step X100 (120g)? I’m curious for in-between guys like myself...
Russell Magsanide same here!!
Hi James i am enjoying your content testing different clubs and brands keep it up. NS PRO Modus Tour 120S with Srixon 765 head
regards Rob Canberra Australia
I have always played regular shafts, apart from a hybrid which was a stiff shaft. I have an average swing speed (77 mph in 7i) which I am trying to speed up (I can hope!!). Yet the stiff shaft in the hybrid always felt nicer.
For me the biggest issue is the shaft weight. I play a 65g graphite shaft in my M1s. It is very nice. My club pro shop has the 919 Forged and Tour in as 7i demo clubs so I tried them out. The demo 919 Forged was in a 95g steel shaft - that thing felt so heavy, in fact all I could feel was the weight of the shaft. Oddly though it made no difference to distance and the 919 Forged was an incredibly straight hitting club, I really struggled to put any shape on the ball.
I got my irons second hand with ref flex before I really knew anything about shafts etc I had a fitting yesterday and I swing the 7 iron 99mph so all this time I should have had x stiff. Hopefully explains the inconsistency
Ping i200 in awt progressive stiff shaft there nice.think they get a little more forgiving in the lower clubs
I’ve been using s300 shafts in my TaylorMade tour preferred MC and I’m finding that my shots this season are flying much higher as well as spinning high and I’m losing a full club distance because of it. Do you think using an x stiff shaft flex could fix this issue? PS I use an X flex in both my driver and 5 wood
I’m using KBS $-Taper is between X100 vs S300
I play off 1 , I'm 58 and have a swing speed of 80 mph with a 7 iron , every fitting I go to put me in reg , then I get my 718 mb irons out with s300 and I hit them alot better , can anyone explain to me why because fitters can't , I'm quite big built being an ex boxer but would that change anything , I'm lost any help would be brilliant Ty Jules ......
If anyone is lost like I was (sounds like a Jehova's witness start) before I got custom fit - this might be helpful:
Club head speed 7 iron: 86-88 MPH - got recommended S300 which I got together with new P790s.
Club head speed driver: 98-100 MPH - got recommended a stiff Tensei 55g
What I find a bit odd is despite your slightly faster CHS of 92-ish MPH compared to my 87-ish, I hit my 7i around 160 meters (175 yards) - although with my previous irons, XR, which are cavity filled.
Didn't hit my new P790 much shorter, just a few meters but I just found it surprising you hit your 7i roughly 150 meters with a 5 MPH swing speed difference.
This concludes my essay no one will read. :)
I normally play a seniors or a regular flex shaft, depending on the outside temp and how the old bones feel that day. I tried a x-stiff graphite shaft I put in a 4i. HAHA felt and looked like I was using a pool que.
I use to measure via my swing rate.. Clubhead speed kinda things.. So if my clubhead speed is less than 100mph should a regular just be enough for me? Hope for an advice.. Thx
I run stiff up to 4 iron and x stiff in my 3 iron, 3 wood and driver. I hate that loose feeling in my longer clubs.
Wow, I wish I could try the X100's in my clubs. I have the S300's and I get a lot of differences in distances.
Hi James do you have any tips on increasing swing speed?
Callaway rogue x xp 105 stepless s300 great shaft had kbs 120g on my taylormades tour preferred mc’s can feel the difference in weight between them.lighter shaft suits me better 47 now need all the help i can get play off 7.
This is a little weird, a few months ago I was using S-300 shafts in my clubs and went to see if I would fit into a different shaft. Long story short, I tested 4 different shaft companies in Stiff and their X-stiff options. I end up with X-100 shafts and my irons are more consistent and my misses are a lot smaller. I am also writing this before I fully watched the video. So, I am curious to see what you have to say. Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks Kyle! Really hope you enjoy the video! Also check out my “blind test” of shafts in the taylormade GAPR. You may find that interesting too
@@JamesRobinsonGolf Will do!
I was fitted for 1" longer kuru kage stiff graphite shafts in my 5-pw irons my question is should i be using 1" longer shafts in my 3 wedges ? as at present they are std length (at bit off topic I know)
Recently I was fitted for my current irons, (Touredge HL3) and was recommended KBS Tour 90 in stiff. Now I just need to see if they compare to my current Wilson Ultra BLK uniflex shaft. Still new to the game.
Can you do a program with the lighter Dynamic Gold shafts like the 110 and 95 comparing them to other similar weight shafts in R, S and XS if applicable.
Hi I love your videos, what are the dig=ffrence between, KBS, Project X, and Nippon Shafts, I know they all caterfor all golfers but which is better and would you choose.
Thank you very much.
Side note: you start you're backswing with you're hands.. you pronate your wrists just prior to rotating your hips and raising your arms... is this recommended to help with the swing? Or just an idiosyncrasy?
Oban CT 100 in R+ but looking at getting the DG 120 S300 put in my irons
I have yonex vmass tour irons i bought off the shelf alota years ago when i was in my 20’s and a beginner golfer. They have x100u shafts. I dont hit the ball overly far but i find now i hit the ball shorter and i changed grips that took 5-10 yards off my yardage.
I dont understand the stiffness.
Should i be try something different
got fit for srixon z765s with dynamic gold S300s - feels great.
KBS C taper lite 110 in S flex; however think that a Nippon GSH950 Staff or graphite is better suited to me as hit my Yonex's better than current Srixons.
I have light weight iron shafts (95g) but think I may be better off with something a bit heavier. I'm physically strong enough it's just my technique which restricts my swing speed. I have found heavier shafts feel better but every iron fitting I've had they all lean to lighter (stiff) shafts? I don't know why?
How much difference would there have been if you used a regular flex shaft?
I have uniflex shafts in the clubs I started with and can't really hit them hard or it just ends horribly. I almost want something that can cut through the ground after I hit the ball. I should probably get fit for a shaft but I feel like extra stiff would be my best option. I already tried the kbs tour 90 in stuff it it didn't seem to change much.
Fitted for the kbs c taper 130x. Nice when you have the confidence to play either a cut or slight draw when the shot calls for it.
Do you have a fitness regime and if so is it golf related and what does it consist of? Great video by the way.