the cult of notes app poetry 📝 (rupi kaur, gabbi hanna, megan fox, tumblr, and tiktok slideshows)

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  • what is notes app poetry and why is it so popular? let's deep dive.
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  • @SummarizingtheClassics
    @SummarizingtheClassics ปีที่แล้ว +4190

    omg going on your notes app in broad daylight to look at your grocery list and finding the most depressing note/poetry you wrote when you were down bad and cringing at yourself, is definitely a universal experience 😭

    • @marthagodivala6726
      @marthagodivala6726 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      It is HUMBLING

    • @marufgazi9025
      @marufgazi9025 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      haha literally 😂😂😂 .. 20:40 tue

    • @niannadsahmar832
      @niannadsahmar832 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So truee😂

    • @nave_3030
      @nave_3030 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      So truee🤣🤣 it gets even weirder if you don't remember writing it like this one thing I wrote
      She oils
      With what feels like love
      You lather
      Wash your hair
      Only for it to feel
      Like nothing (by the afternoon)
      Just so the strands
      To slip through
      My hands
      Like something
      I can never know
      But only remember
      The nights when you know your mother
      Will never love you
      Your secret waits safe in the closet
      watches the sporadic smiles
      Affectionate touches
      That remain
      And vouches(vouching) to snatch even those away
      A burning tear you didn't know was welling up in your eyes
      Tickles your ear
      And freezes
      On the pillow
      Wake up
      Feel the puff in your eyes
      And wash the salt on your face
      With more salt
      You felt way too beautiful
      Way too happy
      Way too alive
      Yesterday morning, to wake up like this.
      I watch the kitchen countertop
      Breakfast on my plate
      For a moment
      I see the watermelon seeds on the tile
      Through the swamp in my eyes
      For a moment
      They move
      As if alive
      Until I realise
      They are living
      And in waiting
      For a moment I forget
      I want to die
      What in the world happened on April 6th that made you write this past me??

    • @marufgazi9025
      @marufgazi9025 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nave_3030 😂😂😂 ... this is funny

  • @ceburr
    @ceburr ปีที่แล้ว +950

    as the water in
    my hair
    changed to sweat on my brow
    i realized
    i couldn’t hear him
    anymore
    - don’t dry your hair while watching youtube

    • @manonvo8615
      @manonvo8615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @manonvo8615
      @manonvo8615 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This is so good, cause I too, dry my hair while watching youtube video's 😂

    • @artbyvru
      @artbyvru ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is amazing haha 😂

    • @sherlyspipe
      @sherlyspipe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This one’s the best lmao 🤣

    • @DreamPinkClouds
      @DreamPinkClouds 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Brilliant lol

  • @cubitum-eamus
    @cubitum-eamus ปีที่แล้ว +1533

    every time i have to hear jack speak in cursive voice i lose five years off my lifespan and suffer from significant hair loss. it’s iconic

    • @arielrodriguez968
      @arielrodriguez968 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      the voice is basically radioactive lol

    • @senaaileigh
      @senaaileigh ปีที่แล้ว +21

      When he slipped into it I was like... wtf is happening lol

    • @gerenuk8245
      @gerenuk8245 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sounds like Barry Keoghan

    • @missfanari
      @missfanari 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought it was a british accent (I am not a native english speaker and have trouble picking up accents)

  • @atotallyhumanbeing
    @atotallyhumanbeing ปีที่แล้ว +2867

    After reading the comments: Now I need a video of Jack judging OUR shitty notes poetry 😭💀

    • @niannadsahmar832
      @niannadsahmar832 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      That would be so fun😂🤣

    • @bahjathanif
      @bahjathanif ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I would love that 😭😭

    • @katyadavismusic
      @katyadavismusic ปีที่แล้ว +20

      OMG please I have so many 😂 JACK JUDGE US!!!

    • @emilielinstewart
      @emilielinstewart ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brilliant!

    • @xmv99
      @xmv99 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      omg this is a GREAT idea

  • @Senkhara
    @Senkhara ปีที่แล้ว +939

    "You were raised by Tumblr and are now in therapy" I've never felt more called out in my life 🤣🤣🤣

    • @zeenkosis
      @zeenkosis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same 😂😂😂

    • @nojerama788
      @nojerama788 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same ohmygod he went for the jugular 🤣

    • @PeoplecallmeLucifer
      @PeoplecallmeLucifer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still on there

  • @shiva.dharsh
    @shiva.dharsh ปีที่แล้ว +1172

    if jack was my professor i would never miss a class cuz THIS MAN CAN TEACH

  • @MaelysCha
    @MaelysCha ปีที่แล้ว +1429

    You Are
    so articulate
    The words
    Your vibes
    Are immaculate
    🙃

    • @comfyera
      @comfyera ปีที่แล้ว +22

      lol this is perfection 😂

    • @andromedasignage
      @andromedasignage ปีที่แล้ว +29

      omg where’s the poetry collection 😳😸😍🫣🫢

    • @azaaellise
      @azaaellise 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ++

  • @sohinidutta97
    @sohinidutta97 ปีที่แล้ว +828

    ok why are these unpublished poetry examples better than most published notes app poetry pieces 😂😂😂

    • @luisabolado
      @luisabolado ปีที่แล้ว +6

      fr

    • @Me-vn3gz
      @Me-vn3gz ปีที่แล้ว +18

      right i’m like maybe 15 year old me was onto something

  • @trinifernandez8870
    @trinifernandez8870 ปีที่แล้ว +1061

    It's really easy to just shit on this kind of poetry, and I really appreciate Jack's empathy and curiosity towards it. This is a great exploration of it, and you should be proud!

  • @Katertot8895
    @Katertot8895 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    My favorite one of these poems (which yes is making fun of rupi kaur) is this:
    Was my
    heart
    just cartilage --
    and you,
    a piercing gun
    at claire's?
    Makes me laugh every single time

    • @ananyasahay
      @ananyasahay ปีที่แล้ว +4

      crying 😂

    • @Saphia_
      @Saphia_ ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I wish there was a way to save youtube comments because this is so good.

    • @noemiesdreams
      @noemiesdreams ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Saphia_i just screenshot them lol

    • @Saphia_
      @Saphia_ ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@noemiesdreams I did. But I also know it'll end up buried under like 500 photos of the sky and my cat in like a month.

    • @curlyandfried
      @curlyandfried 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it wouldn't be as cringe if it didn't say "from claire's". still would be bad though

  • @graeson3317
    @graeson3317 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    Every time i pick up one of these poetry books I'm reminded of 13 year old me thinking i was angsty. My diary was full of shitty poetry about how the world didn't understand me or my crush didn't like me.

    • @luiiiandmovieee
      @luiiiandmovieee ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ikr we've all been there

    • @jennymesas4699
      @jennymesas4699 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      It's the right age to be all those things, we've all been there and those who say they haven't been there are going through it during their adulthood lmao

    • @moonriversou
      @moonriversou ปีที่แล้ว +51

      The two spectrums of girlhood: The world doesn't understand me and my crush doesn't like me

    • @luisabolado
      @luisabolado ปีที่แล้ว +1

      real

    • @tokkigifs
      @tokkigifs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moonriversouthe common canon event that we cannot interfere 😂 and a plot that’s in anime 💀

  • @Laura-ns1lt
    @Laura-ns1lt ปีที่แล้ว +403

    You have inspired me to write my own cringeworthy poetry in the middle of the night, thanks

  • @poetrybysuhashani__
    @poetrybysuhashani__ ปีที่แล้ว +376

    as someone who writes poetry, i'm grateful that you brought attention to the fact that if people can relate to the words written, if in some shape or form they found it reassuring, less lonely and positive towards their mental health - then people should just be allowed to write on a vulnerable level without fearing criticism. having said that, i do agree that once your work is published or you're building a platform around it - you should be accepting and open to criticism to improve your craft further. anyways great video as always ✨

  • @Jude266
    @Jude266 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    English is my second language, and normal traditional poetry is so hard for me to read and understand (unlike poetry in my own language), so this type of poetry is easier for me to digest and connect with. It’s always nice to hear you discuss a topic without judging people for liking it

  • @wormrocket
    @wormrocket ปีที่แล้ว +326

    stop this 😭 you literally described my notes app poems perfectly i’m so embarrassed i can’t write poetry for my life

    • @meikusje
      @meikusje ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Just because it's simple doesn't mean it's bad. But it's also okay to acknowledge some poetry is better. I write this type of poetry as well, and I'm fully aware there are a lot of better poets out there, but that doesn't mean my poetry is bad ☺️ whatever I write is always with genuine intention and a vision, something I want to get out of my head. Just like with all other forms of art, it doesn't have to be complex or take great skill, or honestly even be 'marketably good' to be art. We can create simply because we have the urge to create. There doesn't have to be a point to prove or something to 'win'. The best thing I learned during the pandemic was to let go of goals or expectations when creating, and just make things for the experience of making them.

    • @aaaamnaaaa
      @aaaamnaaaa ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He also said that if you're not publishing it then no one has the right to criticize it so do your thing!

    • @miserabiliiaa
      @miserabiliiaa ปีที่แล้ว

      SAMEE

    • @luisabolado
      @luisabolado ปีที่แล้ว +1

      honey im right there with u lmaooo (i thought mine was good but this video has me WONDERING)

  • @helloitsme2846
    @helloitsme2846 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Some of rupi kaurs poems will forever have a place in my heart, as some of them deal with csa or sa. I found her books while I came to terms with the fact that I experienced that and reading someone else's words, thoughts and feelings regarding that topic, while not knowing or understanding mine, helped. After reading one of her books, I think it actually was milk and honey, I started to open up about my own story. So I will forever be thankful for finding her work at that time and for it being so accessible

    • @niannadsahmar832
      @niannadsahmar832 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ikrr....there was this one poetry in milk and honey, about father daughter relationship on call....it touched me the most😭🤌🏻

    • @bookedandpolished
      @bookedandpolished ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I have to say hearing Rupi Kaur mentioned in a grouping with Gabbie Hannah was disappointing…. These two have nothing in common. Rupi Kaur is an actual poet.

    • @madelineferguson4106
      @madelineferguson4106 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I read them before sa happened and read it after and she got me through and continues to get me through it when it gets tough

    • @kirstynhawkins8023
      @kirstynhawkins8023 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      same, just because her poetry is accessible doesn't mean she lacks talent. i haven't read one of her books in a while, but i remember reading them and being so deeply impacted by her worldview especially talking about grief and sa. the way that her books are organized feels like she's letting you into her mind as she is growing from these experiences and it helped me get through mine. i don't think it's for everyone, but comparing her to the others on this list feels unnecessarily harsh.

    • @JulianaSBarbosa
      @JulianaSBarbosa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same

  • @abbles.bubbles
    @abbles.bubbles ปีที่แล้ว +143

    as someone who writes poetry where rhyme and meter are very crucial and takes a long time to make it cohesive, i can understand it gets frustrating when what looks like a monologue with line breaks gets more recognition, but in the end expression is unique, and poetry can take many meanings.

    • @hannyb9417
      @hannyb9417 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I've seen many people criticise a poem for rhyming. I've seen many people criticise a poem for not rhyming. So I just write for myself first and foremost in whatever form feels best for that particular piece of writing.

    • @littlesometin
      @littlesometin ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I see it as pop culture. Like with movies, music, art, now poetry's got its pop branch. Pop is fine, but it doesn't scratch every itch, so you go in search of the good stuff which is usually more complex, better crafted, though-out, transports you into the work, basically gives you more.

  • @alicefullofice
    @alicefullofice ปีที่แล้ว +113

    i was watching this thinking "omg does MY poetry sound like this??" and now im overanalyzing everything ive ever written. maybe its a sign lmao

    • @aurora_skye
      @aurora_skye 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same :/

    • @alicefullofice
      @alicefullofice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@aurora_skye there's no way all of our poetry is bad, I'm sure yours is completely fine and good! it's also subjective so don't you dare think that yours is bad, even if it sounds like tumblr poetry. tumblr has some BANGERS!

    • @chloeedmund4350
      @chloeedmund4350 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep.

    • @dhivyashri6554
      @dhivyashri6554 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sameee

    • @Shmyrk
      @Shmyrk หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @sasham9033
    @sasham9033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This is such a refreshing take on notes app poetry and authors like Rupi Kaur. For various reasons I could write an essay and not a youtube comment on, I used to severely discredit poetry despite being an avid reader. After reading Milk and Honey, my perspective on it completely changed, I started to love poetry and get into it myself. Would I like Kaur’s work to the same extent now as I did then? Probably not. But notes app poetry is still a gateway for so many people, and shouldn’t be disregarded as often as I see online.

  • @raedas7353
    @raedas7353 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    lol as someone who still uses tumblr (surprise! we’re still here) i can say the main themes have definitely moved on to icarus, cannibalism, holiness, pomegranates, etc. yea the hands and heart are still there though

  • @ErklaerMirDieWelt
    @ErklaerMirDieWelt ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Meanwhile, in my notes app:
    - list of possible Christmas gifts
    - shopping list
    - food orders
    - packing lists
    - itineraries
    - e-mail drafts
    - calculations
    - party menues
    - to do lists
    - guest lists
    - lists of questions for specific meetings
    ...

  • @hart1027
    @hart1027 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I love notes app poetry, the common man’s art

  • @gemmyjam
    @gemmyjam ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The tumblr poems being in the same font too got me thinking, would we read these with the same weight as if it was written in comic sans for example? Or word art? Imagine Shakespeare’s poetry in word art 😂

  • @atotallyhumanbeing
    @atotallyhumanbeing ปีที่แล้ว +122

    This man really managed to give an in-depth, incredibly interesting lecture on the most (stupidly) dramatic form of poetry 😭 we need more of jack teaching, this was amazing!

  • @geraniumblue
    @geraniumblue ปีที่แล้ว +363

    dakota warren did a (now deleted i think) video on _this_ type of poetry and she made some incredible points too because she is incredible ! it's a shame she deleted it, i remember the comments were criticising the video for dismissing "art" but i think she was completely right. hope jack's video gets better reception, jack and dakota fans rise up ‼️

    • @calliacovers
      @calliacovers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-qu8zs7vs1xi agree :/// she focuses too much on ~aesthetique~

    • @oo648
      @oo648 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Ok but I read her book and it’s pretty much if you fed chat gpt a rupi kaur and told it to make it edgy. It’s all aesthetics with no real soul.
      That’s the trouble with being a book content creator while also being a writer, people expect you to deliver something better than what you’re critiquing and that wasn’t the case. I think she even deleted this video because I can’t find it anymore.

    • @oolongtea4013
      @oolongtea4013 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Honestly I like Dakota but her videos are mostly her babbling jacks videos are more coherent and his thesis is more clear, well thought out, and structured

    • @prairiebutch
      @prairiebutch ปีที่แล้ว +10

      my first thought at this video title was *cough* Dakota *cough*

    • @ttcgr
      @ttcgr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-qu8zs7vs1x to be fair jack seems to not get half the criticism any woman in the book space does

  • @hollybxoxoxo
    @hollybxoxoxo ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I have never liked rupi Kaur's poetry but was willing to be open ab its worth and importance to people and then I saw the clip of her reading it aloud and almost spat my tea

    • @mochikitten745
      @mochikitten745 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah i LOVED her book but i saw that and was like hello wtf and that ruined my mental image 😭

    • @SM-ky6pb
      @SM-ky6pb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her poetry isn't that bad like the others. They're deeper at least than the other ones on this list but the way she says her poems I always crack up 😭

  • @maeluri
    @maeluri ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Agreed! I'm guilty of purchasing one of these poems books during a hard phase of my life. It helped me gather the courage to move forward and strive for better. Reading it again, I can totally see why it's not a literary masterpiece and I'm a bit embarrassed. Sometimes, it screams teenager angst and unrefined poetry. However, I'm glad I bought it, it gave me the words I needed during this period of time when I wasn't ready to talk to others.

  • @frankiewashere
    @frankiewashere ปีที่แล้ว +54

    that poetry voice you put on made me absolutely laugh out loud thank you xxx

  • @lilicake4208
    @lilicake4208 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    We need more content like this Jack!
    You're amazing at dissecting topics for discussions.

  • @justhelena4761
    @justhelena4761 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    jack reading his own notes app poetry and explaining the tought process behind it really made me wanna hug him 🫂

  • @makeilaha6155
    @makeilaha6155 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I thought Jack was going to say "If you were raised on tumblr you are entitled to financial compensation."

  • @jadebatugo
    @jadebatugo ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Even though I don’t post or publish my poetry, I’ve always critiqued and downplayed it because some of it is written similarly to this “notes app” style and there is a world of hate and mockery surrounding it online. thank you for talking about it in a way that doesn’t invalidate or put down people who write, enjoy, and resonate with poems like these ❤️

  • @iibifuro
    @iibifuro ปีที่แล้ว +127

    As a note app poet, myself!! The parodies are funny!! some hurt my feelings lowkey but damn I just like the "pretentious" air of poetry.

    • @jolonghthong
      @jolonghthong ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats funny because thats the main barrier for me to poetry is the pretentious aura lmao i want to write and read it more but its hard to get past that feeling

  • @zofiawieczorek8394
    @zofiawieczorek8394 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Jack in his consistent era, we love a prolific booktube king!

  • @whoatemychocolate
    @whoatemychocolate ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Jack Edwards was an aesthetic tumblr girlie confirmed.

  • @ssc3001
    @ssc3001 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    We need you to make more poetry analysis and improving tiktok poetry content !! I love what you did at 14:40 :)

    • @JellyGal101
      @JellyGal101 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yes i loved that! would def watch a video of you doing this

    • @eduardaaraujo9039
      @eduardaaraujo9039 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FR OMG

    • @hanami7541
      @hanami7541 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree!

  • @Val-fr6lp
    @Val-fr6lp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a poetry lover and someone who does write, I used to be a lot more strict and critical of the form and structure but as I get older I came to understand that you can literally feel when someone wrote their pieces from the heart or if they were just trying to write a poem. And while form and structure is something that separates poetry from prose, I believe it’s the emotions that the poems evoke that are even more important. Neruda’s “Tonight I can write the saddest lines” I know by heart because something in that poem speaks to my heart. And even though he has other good works, there is a reason why most people love that poem and why it’s so known. When I write from heart about something I feel deeply (whether it’s love, loss, injustice, hope, personal events) the form and rhythm present themselves, I don’t need to force words to rhyme, or count the syllables to get the right metric, or force figures of speech…they just happen naturally. And I think every piece that I wrote like that was 10x better than the one I forced myself to write. But, I think you need to write (and read) hundreds of bad (or not quite right) pieces to write one that’s good.

  • @BaileeWalsh
    @BaileeWalsh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Roughest Drafts did a video with the same subject a couple months ago, which is like a good companion piece to this because he talks a little more about the history of it in terms of publishing and the wider impact and Rupi's other work.

    • @Saphia_
      @Saphia_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I recommend this video. I came from the Roughest Drafts video (watched the Rupi Kaur/Gabbie Hanna/instapoetry one a while ago but rewatched it and also watched the Megan Fox video which is also a good video to watch on this topic-ish IMO).

  • @kiralcurtis
    @kiralcurtis ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For ages I didn’t think of these as real poems, then I read a rupi kaur and found myself with tears in my eyes

  • @prairiebutch
    @prairiebutch ปีที่แล้ว +104

    no but fr as an MFA student and published poet… most people don’t know what GOOD poetry is, and have only read classics and instagram poetry, and that’s why people think it’s sappy and cringe. I’d recommend Chen Chen, Lorna Crozier, Franny Choi, and Billy-Rae Belcourt for people looking to get into contemporary poetry!

    • @hannyb9417
      @hannyb9417 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But how do you know whether poetry is good or not? Because I genuinely cannot tell most of the time

    • @TheYasmineFlower
      @TheYasmineFlower ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannyb9417 Read many different kinds and see what you like! The one thing I really dislike about this instagram poetry (there are many things but this is one of the biggest issues I have) is that there are too many people who stick themselves comfortably into that niche and never read poetry outside of it. They're missing out on a huge variety of the genre if they never look further.
      I think Sylvia Plath might be a good next step for someone who likes instagram poetry, mostly because the themes can be a bit similar. But Sylvia Plath is on another level - I can't think of any of these modern instagram-type poets who come close to her. But the same goes for other poets who are not in the instagram genre!
      Kae Tempest is someone I like as well. Emily Dickinson might also be a good choice. And there is no getting around Mary Oliver or Louise Glück.

    • @prairiebutch
      @prairiebutch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannyb9417if it makes you see language in a new way, or feel something, or surprises you… a good poem can stick with you

    • @Anindeterminateamountofbees
      @Anindeterminateamountofbees ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannyb9417as a general rule, if poetry evokes a powerful image or emotion it’s good or at LEAST ok. Obv “good poetry” is subjective so that’s rlly up to u tho

    • @hannahherring4441
      @hannahherring4441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second Franny Choi!! Such an excellent poet.

  • @adelestefanowicz198
    @adelestefanowicz198 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sharing my favorite notes app poem here!!
    “they did not tell me it would hurt like this
    no one warned me
    about the heartbreak we experience with friends
    where are the albums i thought
    there were no songs sung for it
    i could not find the ballads
    or read the books dedicated to writing the grief
    we fall into when friends leave
    it is the type of heartache that
    does not hit you like a tsunami
    it is a slow cancer
    the kind that does not show up for months
    has no visible signs
    is an ache here
    a headache there
    but manageable
    cancer or tsunami
    it all ends the same
    a friend or a lover
    a loss is a loss is a loss
    -the underrated heartache”
    Rupi Kaur

    • @vid_save
      @vid_save ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a stroke reading that 😅

    • @Earl_Dioxazine
      @Earl_Dioxazine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      . . . What?

  • @HbpBde
    @HbpBde ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The notes app “poem” on the thumbnail is the icing on the cake lol.
    Some really decent poets by the way (in my opinion):
    1. Ilya Kaminsky, “Deaf Republic”
    2. Warsan Shire, “Teaching my Mother how to give birth.” She worked on Lemonade with Beyoncé, so you know she’s good.
    3. ANY Mary Oliver. I have never liked nature poetry until reading hers.
    4. Margaret Atwood has some pretty decent poems
    5. Any June Jordan
    6. Any Langston Hughes
    7. Allen Ginsberg if you like weird-drug fueled poetry. He has some decent, more coherent ones though, or at least ones worth learning about.
    8. Maggie Smith
    Edit:
    9. Carol Ann Duffy
    10. Louise Glück
    12. Richard Siken of course! His first collection ‘Crush’ has been used to death for fan edits/fiction, but outside of that it’s a really fantastic piece of work.
    13. Ted Hughes and Sylvia Plath are worth learning about. There’s a reading of his poem, “Love song” done by Cillian Murphy that absolutely makes me swoon. Listen to it alone though….😬
    There are many, many more! But these are some of my favorites and they are not tumblr poems 😂 take it with a grain of salt though.

    • @megan7843
      @megan7843 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      carol ann duffy as well! i read some of her work for class and found some of my favourite poems ever.

    • @niannadsahmar832
      @niannadsahmar832 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou for these suggestions....i have read the poems of Sylvia Plath and seeing her name in the list now kind of makes me curious about how other poets are...so yeah I'll definitely look forward and read them😁

    • @TheYasmineFlower
      @TheYasmineFlower ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but obligatory "fuck Ted Hughes". Sylvia Plath deserved better than that clown.

    • @zeenkosis
      @zeenkosis ปีที่แล้ว

      I loved Warsan and it also told me to go to therapy.
      Mary Oliver is amazing❤

    • @ravanjie
      @ravanjie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Need

  • @Ella-kq5tu
    @Ella-kq5tu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Genuinely love your video essays! I love how you can put on the critical lit studies hat without being really negative. Your videos always make me think, but they never stress me out, you seem so kind!

  • @zeenkosis
    @zeenkosis ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For poetry lovers there is a podcast called On being and they have audio recordings of poets reading their poems it’s incredible

  • @Dominoooooo
    @Dominoooooo ปีที่แล้ว +159

    M a n g o e s 😔🤌

  • @fzzz.8
    @fzzz.8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    As a notes app "poet" it hits the mark😂. But really, writing in notes app doesn't mean necessarily that your writing is bad. It's not a category or classification. A poem/prose can just be as meaningful with or without having big words. Written on notes app or written on paper. It's the thought and feeling that matters!❤

  • @meaghanriley_23
    @meaghanriley_23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it's really awesome that jack really dove deep into this area of culture, inside of immediately bashing it the way I have seen so many other creators do. it really shows how he wants to find the good in all art, because there is something to be learned from it!

  • @SofiaElizabeth06
    @SofiaElizabeth06 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I was like 14 or 15 I was so down bad for my friend that when I found out he liked another girl and was going on a date with her, I wrote a whole SONG in my journal about how I should’ve shown I liked him sooner. Needless to say I have since then crumpled those pages up and DESTROYED them so no one would ever see it

  • @xmarshmilox9955
    @xmarshmilox9955 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    you really called me out with the notes app poetry since i write all my poetry in my notes app before i write it down on paper or my laptop 😂😂
    but (i hope) that my notes app poetry isnt as bad as that notes app poetry

  • @officialblimp
    @officialblimp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:47 omg I love that your english lit side came out, I love these corrections

  • @gurnoorkaur5037
    @gurnoorkaur5037 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you are most definitely not alone in this experience, i write poetry for all my crushes, there aren't a lot of them so it's very intense, either way it is a shock when i randomly open the app for some other work.

  • @jakeykayyreads
    @jakeykayyreads ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Okay it’s sooooo funny that you just posted this bc I watched your “guessing the Booker prize winner” video last night and you were like gagging over that one page of The Bee Sting where it’s like “love. we do this for love” or whatever it was and my immediate thought was like “that rupi kaur ass instagram story ass line” and like I’m sure in context it hit but out of context it was so cheesy so it’s just funny to me that now you’re making this video 😭😭😭

  • @rosalindwinneker8638
    @rosalindwinneker8638 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    this is so random but you should definitely do “analysing literary references in A series of unfortunate events” It’s such an interesting show and every episode is packed with references to classic authors or books!!!

  • @queenboxi
    @queenboxi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is one of the best vids ive seen on this topic, that someone sees value in something means it has some value, it doesnt have to mean everything to everyone

  • @mountainsandchapter3398
    @mountainsandchapter3398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is interesting that poetry students are taught that poetry is making the familiar unfamiliar and vice-versa, but this poetry is keeping the familiar as familiar as possible to as wide an audiance as possible.

  • @WithLovexo
    @WithLovexo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would absolutely buy a poetry book from you! 😂 I feel like you have such a good sense of humor and to read you narrating your life on a light hearted and deeper scale would be so fun and relatable. Loved this video ❤ and completely agree on your summary!

  • @sarabyrne6495
    @sarabyrne6495 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Excellent video Jack! You did this without making people who enjoy notes app poetry feel like they're not smart enough. There is something out there for everyone in the poetry world, just let people like what they like. That goes for music, books and movies too... I'm particularly sore 🤣after having two lads at the weekend think it was hilarious when I said La La Land was my favourite movie, I related hard to that ending, so it's everything to me. Different strokes, for different folks.

  • @specsNsarcasm
    @specsNsarcasm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I almost died reading my old note app poetry i wrote few years back now that i am about to publish them. I sent it to the editors and mind you i blush twice a day knowing the editors will be cringing.

  • @marianacastro5579
    @marianacastro5579 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly jack i commend you for being brave enough to critique, albeit poignantly and not snobbishly, this phenomenon in the publishing industry which i have found interesting for a while as well

  • @bexjean
    @bexjean ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s interesting to see the slight differences between how you described Milk in Honey in the past on your blog to now. You can see how as a reader you have evolved

  • @yourboykaster
    @yourboykaster ปีที่แล้ว +14

    this needs to be much longer. i wish you spoke about poetry more.

  • @tesshalliday4900
    @tesshalliday4900 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the first notes app poem I wrote was literally about two toothbrushes! I’m feeling incredibly called out…

  • @millielbunting
    @millielbunting ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Ever been so down bad for someone they have you in your notes app” I once wrote a dissertation length note about a situationship basically telling the whole story and I’d update it every time something happened for well over a year, for it to just end. Great use of my time👍🏼

  • @patriziap.2571
    @patriziap.2571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    with Rupi Kaur it also feels a lot more like spoken word for me. I went to one of her shows and with one of her pieces about anxiety, it felt like she was able to tell people what I was going through when I couldn't do that. I highly recommend going to her shows!

  • @avasisx
    @avasisx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your refreshing attitude towards this. I feel like some of the hatred to this style of poetry stems from people wanting to feel superior by only putting value in classical literature

  • @sunnni_
    @sunnni_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You truly truly truly remind me of my AP Literature teacher in HS 🤣🤣. The way you did the poem and switching out is what he would do with my writing and tell me to go "deeper" or "more in depth". I would definitely take your class if I was back in school

  • @taehyungeui1538
    @taehyungeui1538 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    omfg the cursive reading about the mangoes got me good

  • @ananyasahay
    @ananyasahay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not the biggest fan of rupi kaur but i really started appreciating how vocal she is about world issues and stands her ground. Really made me respect her even more.

  • @Abg144
    @Abg144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the juxtaposition of how this free-form word-vomit TikTok poetry is received in literature circles versus musical circles. I’m not saying that every musician loves TikTok poetry but I will say that my choir director who was also a prolific composer used to say that his favorite music was “written like it was spoken”. The energy of the human voice is something that is very difficult to capture in a way that makes rhythmic sense. Although it is a more advanced skill to write limericks than free -form, limericks are more easily transcribed into music. Maybe these bad notes-app poems aren’t wretched, they are just incomplete.

  • @hi_there1239
    @hi_there1239 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hearing "taylor swift was raised by tumblr" with specifically a blank space lyric like the day after getting a blank space hannigram edit on my tiktok fyp is like a double hit to my psyche (it was a great edit tho!)

  • @Ida2170
    @Ida2170 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jack’s giving lecturers’ TA here (and I’m so here for it)

  • @thatonedude9744
    @thatonedude9744 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t dislike rupi kaur’s poetry so much as I absolutely cannot stand it anytime I see her read her own poetry. She delivers her words with so much ego and pretension, like she’s absolutely certain the things she’s saying are the smartest, most revelatory thing you’ve ever heard. She reads like she’s condescending to me

  • @emmalloyd4973
    @emmalloyd4973 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As someone who has studied yeats and Eliot when you were describing the features of notes app poetry all I could think was they are the notes app poets of their day to some extent

  • @rockroll5002
    @rockroll5002 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “we need a synonym babe” is the moto of my life. i feel validated.

  • @moc_haha
    @moc_haha ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really liked this topic! I'm probably the only English major alive who really doesn't like poetry, so I typically enjoy "notes app poetry" and the like. Poetry is just one of the few things I don't really love to analyze. Ig I'm just not a very feelings-y type of person, which is what I typically think poetry is about. Anyways, I've always said that as long as you enjoyed it or got something out of it, then the poetry did its job. I really like the accessible aspect of simple poems

  • @sav-222
    @sav-222 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think someone that can do free verse very well is wendy cope. obviously “the orange” has blown up recently but in general so many of her poems are in free verse or very simple rhyme schemes, but in my opinion I think Cope’s poems have so much more depth than notes app poems, but it can be hard to recognize because her written word is so simple, which can be what makes her poems so incredible!

  • @witabif
    @witabif ปีที่แล้ว +7

    honestly, I dabbled in poetry briefly a few times in the past and a lot of it felt like this. I think its a sign of someone who doesn't have a ton of experience in the medium, but if it gets you into it I think it's a good thing. I didn't stick with poetry but learning about it definitely made me a better writer, I think.

  • @samantharose1001
    @samantharose1001 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “the most depressing thing u ever read…and you wrote it!!” hahahh oof yeah that’s deff relatable 😅

  • @alexar2157
    @alexar2157 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This inspired me to track down a poem I wrote 3 years ago that is atrocious but desperately trying to relocate Tumblr poetry and i cackled while reading it, realizing I was in fact, the stereotype.
    You, me.
    You alone hold the ability to change the way I use my senses. Cigarettes, coffee, and lack of sleep protruding from every pore in your body. Your soul is made up of fragments containing the wishes of your past-lovers.
    You form and craft the lenses that we look up to you with. Care and patience engraved into the glass, making the lights of night dance in heart-shaped bliss. The soft glow of my car’s dashboard reflects off the elegant shine of your skin.
    You are a sparkling seltzer, and I am the Diet Coke that laid flat in an abrasive yellow cup for far too long; Splashing from side to side as my poor driving abilities lead us over yet another curb.
    The scuffs that decorate my car would look as if an estranged dent in your figure. I collect blemishes like trading cards, hoarding them in my closet until the door no longer closes.
    You are the result of a perilous architect risking her career for a wondrous display. Each curve and feature, carefully crafted by the hands of our creator.
    Your hair was made to be confused for gold,
    eyes designed to hold admiration for each creature that crosses your path.
    Hands that contain the delicate patterns of creases that decorate your palms like a fine lace.
    Your arms’ are walking a tightrope between thin and regal; somehow blurring the stone set lines.
    You are a walking enigma my dear, half of my soul; although I am no poet.

  • @nate.solaris
    @nate.solaris ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for giving tik tok slides their flowers!! i have read some really beautiful writing on there

  • @grass666
    @grass666 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the nature of the genre is that it's accessible, broadly relatable, easy to write and easy to digest. thats really what ties all the works described in the video together. so how good & literary & deep a notes app poem can be is inherently limited. As soon as you try to get specific, get creative with your language or form, or use a more complex metaphor, you lose the essential characteristics of the genre. your poem is no longer a "notes app" poem.
    that said i agree with the thesis of the video - even if these poems lack literary merit, there is value in accessible literature and skill in being able to write effectively to such a broad audience. it's the pop music of poetry - and lots of pop music is very good!

  • @vitoriafrantz999
    @vitoriafrantz999 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    from 2020 to 2023 I lived the hardest time in my life, writing notes app poetry at 1 a.m was genuinely the thing that saved me, being able to express my feelings somehow. I didn't even think about the quality of the poetry, I was just trying to name or explain my feelings, I even wrote an entire poetry book based on my notes app poetry with around 100 pages. I will release a poetry book one day, maybe inspired by this previous book I've written, or maybe totally different. but I'm a huge fan of notes app poetry hahahaha

  • @marthagodivala6726
    @marthagodivala6726 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I read a poem at an open mic yesterday for the first time in front of all my professors and classmates and MA students too … literally started like this “I started to write this poem on my notes app when I couldn’t sleep…” god now I’m 1 minute into this video and embarrassed af
    Edit I watched a bit further and although I draft a lot of my poems on my phone, this doesn’t seem to describe me 😎❤

  • @CatherineGordon-n6z
    @CatherineGordon-n6z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm jealous of your bookshelf.

  • @theperksofbeing_rachel
    @theperksofbeing_rachel ปีที่แล้ว

    i literally was rewatching jacks video on tier ranking celeb poetry, opened my subscription box, and saw this video. Perfection.

  • @elsie2521
    @elsie2521 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THESE TYPE OF CONTENTS

  • @goldendream5465
    @goldendream5465 ปีที่แล้ว

    that second video of rupi kaur will always haunt me (also you calling her the colleen hoover of poetry is PERFECT)

  • @canyontheman
    @canyontheman ปีที่แล้ว +21

    this is like the dramatic version of rappers thinking of a bar and writing it in their notes

  • @africanqueenie
    @africanqueenie ปีที่แล้ว

    Jack you've done it again; constantly raising the bar for us all, and doing it effortlessly.

  • @claureading
    @claureading ปีที่แล้ว +15

    notes app poetry is not inherently bad but i think a lot of times it is used to reduce the effort that writing good poetry takes - so with this i mean a lot of this type of poetry is bad because the author uses it as a way to write quicker instead of using it because the format actually adds something to what they have to say

  • @notredamedesfleurs
    @notredamedesfleurs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is kinda weird like seeing how poetry works like looking inside mechanical clock for the first time, you're like oooh so it isn't magic

  • @nacho6438
    @nacho6438 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this more analytical video essay format

  • @wiidasander9626
    @wiidasander9626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is SUCH a cool video, love how Jack's putting his degree to good use!

  • @amysyrop9166
    @amysyrop9166 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to hear more of your notes app poetry!!

  • @arzenclaire
    @arzenclaire ปีที่แล้ว

    omg i wrote my poetry minor about this kind of poetry, around three years ago, and only now do i realize theres a better term to the subgenre than just freeverse thank you HAHAH

  • @jasminej.4516
    @jasminej.4516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally❤❤❤ i always wanted to hear jack's opinion about theses kind of poetry

  • @juliarosetwamley
    @juliarosetwamley ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jack I thought that toothbrush poem was really good genuinely I was moved ♥️

  • @Pixel-Lucas
    @Pixel-Lucas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carl Sandburg and William Carlos Williams are great examples of how simple and short free verse is not always insipid.
    "The fog comes / on little cat feet. // It sits looking / over harbor and city / on silent haunches / and then moves on."
    I think someone unfamiliar with those poets could look at their work and see notes app poetry.
    "I have eaten the plums that were in the ice box and which you were probably saving for breakfast. Forgive me. They were delicious; so sweet and so cold."

  • @jessieartsdaily
    @jessieartsdaily ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve definitely written more notes app poetry than passwords or to-do lists. Beyond universal.

  • @cathycreates
    @cathycreates ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to help people love poetry- good work Jack!