The most sincere, factual and kinda experimental review I've seen. While many review this materiel as a specs sheet, you're making a short video, a distillation, of many hours of experiments and gathered experiences. Thank you, I subscribed.
I’m three months in on the ZF, and I couldn’t be happier! The images appear just as sharp and clear as the high megapixel Sony‘s I was using, and it’s a lot more gentle on my computer, lol! My hit rate with Sony‘s auto focus over the years was around 90 to 95%, pretty good, but so far after three months my hit rate with the ZF has been 100%! And the colors are still vastly superior, and the way it handles dynamic range is still better than I had experienced with the Sony cameras.😊
I'm so tempted to get this camera. But I haven't seen anything special with the images. Which cameras did you own previously? It might help me decide. Thanks
Lovely review, though I'm a bit baffled by the idea that you can love the camera but find the top dials unnecessary. Aren't they ... the point of a retro-design camera?
This was a much more practical review than others I have seen. Nikon recommends taking the battery out before trying to remove the memory cards. There is an interesting discussion in the Peta Pixel 2024 predictions video about the Canon R1. They have heard rumors that it is held up due to Canon not being able to engineer a fast enough processor. They even speculated that the R3 was designed to be the R1, but they realized they could do so much better with a faster processor so held back on the R1 designation.
thanks! i definitely recommend removing the battery if you need to eject the microsd card, but the sd really does pop out easily once you get a feel for it. will be keeping an eye on the r1 and will almost certainly buy one to try.
You are absolutely selling me on the ZF. Currently have my z6ii up for sale, will keep one for now, and if it takes a while to sell, maybe the z6iii will be announced and i might end up with that instead
Hi Sam - nice video. I've seen you on Taylor Jackson's videos in the past and appreciate your perspectives and insights. A couple things I would mention: when it comes to noise, it is clear that the 24MP BSI sensor from the Z6II/Zf is going to be 'cleaner' out of camera than the 45mp stacked sensor of the Z8/9 - this is actually a matter of physics - has to do with heat relative to pixel density among other things. Most people recognize this outcome and as a result there is a notion in the photo community that lower MP sensors are better with low light - straight out of camera this is generally true (at least for sensors of a similar generation). What is not generally recognized is that the 45MP sensor has so much more resolution that you can apply noise reduction to the files clean them up and still retain more detail than the shot done with the 24MP sensor. So, if you are someone that needs results straight out of camera then yes the Zf is the 'better' low light camera - but if best possible results are being considered (meaning one is willing to do post processing) then the Z8/9 shots will beat the Zf shots after NR is applied. Secondly, I find it interesting that you do not like the dials at the top of the Zf in that they cannot do more things - this is actually the point of a retro camera - it seems that you are choosing to use this camera in the same way that you might have used a Z6II before - for your wedding work etc and as such you are shooting it in a similar manner. This is perfectly acceptable and it is a testament to the Zf that it is even able to be used in this manner as this is definitively its secondary function. For this issues you are having with the Zf, it is clear that you would do best with the upcoming Z6III - it will have a great grip so the flash issue will become moot; it will likely be 24-33MP so similar to the Zf; and it will have the same (if not better) AF capability as well as further improved video, and likely the same screen from the Zf that you like. As a wedding photographer myselfn (among other things), there is no doubt that a Z6III will be the better choice for all day shooting at events (like weddings) than a Zf in spite of how cool and fun the Zf is. The Zf is really for nostalgia for those of us that have been shooting with Nikons since the days of the FE II and other similar cameras. Nikon went the extra mile and made it so competent that it can compete in a modern capacity, but this is not its primary function. I bring this up because your main issues seem to surround this issue and although you make accurate observations, I feel it should be noted that you are using this camera in a way that it was not primarily designed to be used. Again, the Z6III would likely be the perfect camera for your professional needs as it will squarely address all the issues you are having with the Zf and likely add some surprise additional features as well. Anyway, sorry to have rambled so long - definitely enjoyed the video and your thoughts on the topic. -PD
thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! i’m very aware of the sensor physics and tradeoffs :) the z6iii is a non starter for me if it doesn’t have the same articulating screen as the zf. it’s a make or break feature for me so, let’s hope! the styling of the zf does change the shooting experience - and it’s a significant impact - even without use of the top dials… so, while i will try the z6iii i’m not vying for it.
@@iamsamhurdphotography Thanks for this interesting and informative review. I admit that I'm tempted by the Zf, but I'm not crazy about the ergonomics of the retro body (even though I'm ancient and started my photography journey with a Zenith E). There is a a reason why manufacturers put deep grips on cameras. I'm hoping the Z6 (or 7) iii will have a regular tilting screen as I dislike flip screens. It's all a matter of taste and use case, of course. Even more preferable would be a screen that articulates both ways, like on some Fujis. That seems to offer the best of both worlds. Happy Christmas!
It’s a beautiful looking camera. Nicely built. I coupled mine with magadapter and Sigma i series lens. No lens profile correction for sigma 24mm f/2 DN DG. I have to shoot raw and I use Sony FE 28mm f/2 profile for lens distortion correction.
Wow what a great review! This is an amazing camera and worth the money imo, I purchased along with the 105 mm 2.8 macro z lens and nothing short of greatness.
Excellent review. I enjoyed this Zf review more than any of the others I’ve seen, and I don’t even need to know about it because I own it. Yet I still enjoyed the watch. 👍
Thanks for the review. I enjoy using the camera so much to the point that I acquired another Zf as my third body. I'll continue to use my Z9 for sports, actions, and tasks requiring heavier lenses or high-resolution files, while using the Zf's as my primary choice for all other purposes.
Hi, Sam! This is a great practical review! I'm waiting for the Z63, which will hopefully match or exceed the ISO and AF performance of the Zf, along wth better ergonomics for long work days. But the Zf sure looks tempting for shorter events and personal use/travel. I have a Z9 and Z62, and agree that the AF systems are night and day different.
A really insightful video, no waffle and to the point. I learnt a lot, thank you! I currently own a D750 & D850 and have been on the fence about jumping to mirrorless for years, Nikon Z F has been something I have been dreaming of, and I suspect this summer I'll take the pludge! Showing the Lightroom comparisons were really helpful Sam, especially when someone is choosing between different bodies.
Interesting. I had the Z9 and switched to Z8 and I find the files harder/ not as nice to edit - I don't have a Z9 any longer to compare so kinda good to hear you think the same. My presets don't look that close either - kinda annoying. Thinking of switching to ZF for weddings but I think I'll miss the joystick
Thanks Sam. Very interesting and informative video, especially your use of the Techart adapters. I’m looking forward to your future videos featuring the Zf.
What I really want from Nikon is - Real Time LUT like in the Panasonic cameras :). Than I can go Nikon from Sony because on Panasonic I can't use my lenses but Nikon has an adapter for E mount lenses. This is a game changer.
i’ve been dreaming of it ever since the canon r! at a minimum it’d be great if the screen could be front facing and i could keep looking through the evf at the same time
Very Nice review. I'm tempted by this camera after being disillusioned with photography for a while. I started my photographic journey with Nikon Film cameras so this camera feels familiar and the first mirrorless Nikon that attracts me. I last had the Nikon D800 some years ago. I sold my Noct some years ago (sigh) and the m11 is just too expensive and my eyes just don't do well with the RF anymore. But I do still have some M lenses so the autofocus lens art is a pleasant revelation. The less noise on the sensor is probably because this is a 24 megapixel camera as compared to 45 on on the z8. When packing more pixels in the noise characteristics change for the worse.
Awesome video. Have you had any problems with vignetting going F to M to Z? I saw another channel that mentioned it, but it might have been the lens he was using (50mm f/1.2).
100% agree with having the same UI between 2 devices. I used an iphone 8 for my personal phone and a face ID iphone for my work phone for a while. I was never able to use either efficiently until I got 2 with the same UI
Hey Sam! I've watched this review probably five times now and I really resonate with what you said around 14:08 where it feels like the more recent Nikon bodies have been going all out without the feeling like it's been nerfed to protect a higher end body or cinema line. I've still not fully committed to mirrorless yet but I have some Canon EF stuff and will be deciding whether to go RF or Nikon Z, and a big part of that will be based on if Canon still has that mentality. Nikon embracing the weird and niche stuff as well as making moves like buying RED, it's looking really exciting!
Hello, thanks for the video. I might have missed the info - what lens(es) have you used for the image comparison between ZF and Z8? They look all great.
I really enjoyed the vintage lens comparison. Those adapters you have are sweet! I wish they had similar autofocus adapters for minolta rokkor shooters, but I have a feeling this is NOT the audience that this camera is for whatsoever LOL
I just bought my first mirrorless camera, a Sony A7C2 japanese model from Bic Camera in Japan. It happened to be on sale. I now have slight buyer’s remorse. I learned to shoot on a 35mm film camera. The Nikon ZF seems better suited to street photography and adapting vintage MF lenses that I can buy from used camera stores in japan. The price difference between these 2 cameras was negligible. Shooting on the sony, while the end results are quite sharp, is such a sterile experience. The AI A.F. Does all the work. Should I switch?
Thanks Sam, Im a ex Nikon shooter currently Sony A7R5. Im thinking of going back now with the new Z6 III, but I didn't realise Nikon had sorted the AF with this camera.
Thank you for sharing some great options there. Fuji has been designing these type of retro cameras for a while now. We’re do you think Nikon got its inspiration from. Just adding in to your comment at 13:45sec
@@iamsamhurdphotography I agree except I think the body was inspired by the old Nikon film cameras, but I also think Nikon saw how popular fuji was getting and decided dip back into their retro roots. Just for reference I shoot Nikon and Fuji.
love the review. my favourite lens was the 55 f1.2 AIS, thou i'm a sony user, i still kept the lens. Could you help me here as I'm trying to understand your adaptor arrangement? You mention mounting a manual F lens on a F to M mount and Techart M to Z mount would enable the auto focus. So I'm guessing manual F to M mount, with techart M to E mount on sony body would work too?
yes, i believe that combo would work too. note that the techart m to e mount adapter does not have the same functionality as the z mount version. i believe some focus modes are limited on sony
08:55 you do not want to hold the lens while using its AF, the manual adapter is moving the lens front and back, by holding it you are making it harder to the adapter to do its job and it will wear the motor much faster. I am using those for years on my Sony and I have some service experience already :D
@@iamsamhurdphotography I am just saying as a person who knows what is inside. This newer one (without the bulging part underneath) is more simple at first sight without gears but those 4 motors are maybe a worse idea because if one of them fails ... and again - they have their limitations and if I remember right it was 500g of a lens which is not a lot. I would not count on it working for long with high payloads and resistance from a hand holding the lens. I still have 2 of the older adapters and one of they broke a gear, the other one had 2 times motor fail problems, but it is still running. I really like the idea of shooting my vintage lenses with one hand because of the AF. Just keep in mind that if you want them to work for long you have to use them with smaller glass :).
I know this is an 8 month old review, but I just found it. Not sure which TechArt adapter you keep referring to for Sony, but they make the exact same adapter for E Mount as you have for Z mount and it works wonderfully. It's not limited to AF-S like you said. You can do full multiple focus modes, AF-C, eye tracking, etc. Works almost as good as native lenses. 11:38
possible that it's camera body dependent, and also software dependent. I tested the exact same adapter model on a Sony body December 2023, and it would not allow for every focus mode. good to know they've fixed it!
@@iamsamhurdphotography I have the Techart adapter on my Sony A1 and have a ZF with the Z mount Techart adapter on order, so I'll be able to make a direct comparison and see if there is a difference soon.
Thanks for this nice video. I was wondering in future videos if you can: 1) Do another focus test like you did on this video, but have the exposure set to cut out ambient light, and retest focusing in that mode, as I am curious to see how it will be for studio work. 2) There are some reports that there is a small blackout after the photo review which can delay the camera getting ready for shooting mode to commence shooting. Can you confirm if this is so and your experience with it? Thanks again :)
Great review Sam. First time watching, but was not disappointed. Your thought process and approach to the camera was very helpful and the lens adapter review was awesome. Got two reviews for one. I am so surprised that Nikon put the card slots on the bottom. Impossible to deal with at times depending on grips, tripod mounts and such, but overall looks like a great camera. Can’t wait to get one.
Pro portrait photographer here. Studio and natural light. Fuji since 2018. I have the XT5 and a X100V, the 33 and the 56. I trained on film, in the 80’s, my first camera was a Nikon FE. I’m thinking of going with this Nikon. Do you recommend? And What lenses do you recommend? I have to have a 50 and an 85 for my workflow and I’d love a 35 or 28. Thanks for your advice!
I am a re-convert to Nikon. I switched to Sony 8 years ago because Nikon autofocus was absolutely abysmal and DSLRs in general had gotten enormous and heavy. But I bought a Zfc this fall out of curiosity and it shocked me. Nikon colors are so much better than Sony and they really turned their autofocus around to actually be better than Sony. Besides, mirrorless cameras and lenses (besides the Fujis and Zf/Zfc) have grown bigger and heavier to be almost as bloated as the old DSLRs. I packed up my a7R4 setup and will be trading it in on a new Zf and lens. 😃
I'm not trying to diss your choices. Every camera manufacturer makes awesome cameras these days and Nikon may now work better for you. But you are comparing the autofocus on a 61mp, resolution focused body, that was released in 2019 To a 20mp body released 2 years later. Have you compared it to something like the A74, a75, A1, or even a9/a9ii?
Yes, I’ve borrowed my Sony using co-photographer’s cameras (a7iv, a9ii etc.) and I am still impressed with Nikon’s autofocus performance. How they went from horrible to world-leading in a few short years surprised me (that’s all I’m saying). Most importantly though, (much more important to me than autofocus) the colors of the Zfc especially in very challenging lighting situations are a world apart from any Sony I’ve used in day to day real world use. Now with the full frame Zf, it’s even better. The way these Nikons are handling color, light and dynamic range are a vast improvement over Sony…. This is from shooting my cameras 6-10 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week (and an equal amount of time editing). Just my personal experience and opinion though of course. 😉
This is such a great review! I have a question though: was that the manual focus Leica Noctilux 0.95 that you were using with an adapter on the Nikon Zf? Can you please tell me the name of that adapter? Thanks.
Thank you very much for the very thorough review of the Nikon Zf. Maybe the best, but at least the most useful. I am one of those with a lot of Nikkor glass, also Pre-AI, so I have a Nikon Df. Also have a Canon 5D classic and MkII for my Zuiko lenses and EF T&S, but my main system is the m43 and will be in the future. Now, with tools, nothing is perfect for everything. Have long been at the stage of buying a GFX, but the TechArt adapter for the Zf has changed everything, as well as the fact that the Zf is so good in low light.
I am waiting for the Z6III... I am older, and sadly weaker, so I like the Z6II GRIP (and I agree about the Dials)... Just found Your YT Channel (but I am familiar of Your work) :) :) Do You have a vid about on camera flash??? Whenever I use a flash I do Off Camera Flash (even if only arm distance)(came from my photojournalism days)... I use 125gig SD cards so I seldom have a need to change during a shoot,, What size do You use??? I realize that SD can become corrupted (knock on wood, never yet)... Is the increased IBIS noticeable???? I think a larger dumy grip (as little extra weight as possible might be better than a battery grip for a long day).... I have been sticking to Nikon (since 1969) even with the slower focus problems (money is tight and I luv My Glass) Glad to hear You are back to Nikon (but cameras are tools so it does not really matter) But I like to hear Your in depth experience, and Your Perceptions !!! ThankYou :) :) :)
Lower pixel density usually results in lower noise. My 645Z has much better low light noise performance than my D850. I ordered my Zf at launch, and it's been great. I bought Nikon Z 24-120/4 S as an all purpose lens, and Meike 85/1.4 for portraits. Also an FTZ II to use my F mount lenses.
The z6 vs z7 , or z8-9 vs ZF is about a stop difference in high ISO , and for the techart adapter with M lenses , you should set the aperture in camera to match what the lens is set to , not just for exif , but if it’s to far off from what the lens has it will have problems focusing … just my experience
interesting note! i do notice an odd relationship to focusing and exposure being tied to a range of iso that i’m shooting in. they’re doing something odd via software i can’t quite figure out
Zf is a piece of art to buy and place in the living room alongside the legendary FE and FM. Still, the Zf seems like an amazing camera too. Nikon is back , to become a leader. Thank you for an excellent review. ❤ from Tel Aviv 🌹
Great review, Sam and I'm so happy Nikon finally came out with a camera like this. I also shot Nikon for 14 years or so and jumped ship after getting the Z7 which was not serious camera for any moving subject. I'm just wondering if the Techart adaptor is not the weak link here? I shoot a lot of multi day South Asian weddings and you are screwed if your autofocus adaptor dies in the middle of one of these events? Do you only use adapted lenses, or do you also have a couple of reliable Z lenses just in case this happens? Even if you're not in the middle of nowhere its still gonna take at least 24-48 hrs to get a new adaptor, presuming BH has it in stock.
so far i have not had any adapter issues - and i also have two adapters. no reason to assume both would fail at the same time, but i do own the 24 1.8, 24-70, and 40 f/2.0 z mount lenses too.
@@iamsamhurdphotography What am I missing? I have a function button set on my A7RIV to switch the camera into crop mode. 61mp full frame, 26mp cropped. I must not be understanding Taylor's question.
@@dpfreedmanYou can do that on a 2013 a7. I have an a7s that does crop mode (5 megapixels!). I HAVE A 2010 CCD A390 WITH CROP MODE (in jpeg with live view). Taylor Jackson used Sony for a while. He should know this.
I loved this review! I'm looking for a backup autofocus camera for my M11 and this seems to fit the bill for everything I'd want. I noticed the Teenage Engineering CM-15 on your table, how is THAT doing in terms of performance??
Hi! I saw that techart had an adapter with autofocus for Sony FE to Nikon Z lenses. Do you really suggest I could use some old Konica or Zeiss lenses via adapter to Sony E, mount it on the Techart adapter and enjoy autofocus?
Sam, have you ever used the Minolta Rokkor 58mm f/1.4? I want to get a vintage lens for my Zf that isn't too expensive. I've also thought about a Helios, but I think that it's sort of a one trick pony (i.e. the swirly bokeh).
@@iamsamhurdphotography Thanks. I'll be on the look out for a 1.2 in decent condition. Any favorite bang for your buck vintage lenses? I'm mostly interested in portraiture.
Hey Sam! I recently got the Zf too and love it. The dials are the worst part (imo). Do you have more info somewhere about how you bypassed them. Im struggling with finding an alternative way to setup the shutter speed. I've dug around in the setting a few times and just cant seem to figure it out.
@@iamsamhurdphotography can you pls help elaborate this? Would be really great as I'm searching for this comparison and can't find any info on youtube or reddit. I feel there are sony shooters out there who really miss the shooting experience of the older Nikons but don't want to go back to film or move down to APS-C with Fuji. I'm an A7IV shooter primarily using manual lenses thinking of switching to the ZF. :)
well, if you're primarily a manual focus photog anyway then I would definitely move away from Sony. their strength is in their AF system and sensors, but the look of a sensor is very subjective, and I don't like most Sony files. though this is another subjective point... the shooting *experience* is superior with other camera brands. by that I mean the operation, the look, the menus, the render of lenses etc. my opinions are coming from a position where I can afford to shoot whatever system I want, and I have no brand loyalty/contracts with these companies that would instill any bias. just this year I went through two separate Sony bodies yet again and found the same conclusions. @@DeatHbladeZ604
i did go on a bit of a tangent, haha. there’s not much else to say about the camera itself though - it’s pretty straight forward and i highlighted the strengths and weaknesses - not much else needed. my patreon article covered additional details.
I’m so happy with this camera that I just keep watching Zf reviews to share this happiness! One problem for me though, it’s the raw compatibility on apple. I was used to retouch on lighroom with my ipad, but now I have to turn the raw files in dng first… any idea how to fix this?
I believe we are at the mercy of dng converter to fix that but I’ll look into it. Personally, I only edit on Lightroom classic so it hasn’t been an issue yet.
nope - i don’t have any e mount lenses anymore. i only tested from the body perspective meaning sony a7r4 w/ the equivalent techart m mount to e mount af adapter
@@iamsamhurdphotography oh I love the nikon z8 so much. I want the zf as a b cam so I can film on different angles. Right now I'm filming multiple times to get different shots. Also for travel photography, the zf with the 40mm f2 seems appealing. Love your videos and how you present information
Comparing noise of the Zf vs Z8/9 at 100% is a bit unfair though, since the Zf pixels are much larger. If you want to compare fairly, you should downscale the Z8/9 images to the same resolution as the Zf. Or maybe even downscale both to an even lower resolution.
Wow this is really interesting I've been on a vintage lens kick lately, I've been shooting them on an old Leica SL 601 body. I've got a Sony body but I never bought the Techart adapter because the performance seemed sub par. I might get the ZF as my vintage autofocus camera. Not to mention I've only got 2 Sony E enses but I could adapt those to Z mount with another adapter.
The most sincere, factual and kinda experimental review I've seen. While many review this materiel as a specs sheet, you're making a short video, a distillation, of many hours of experiments and gathered experiences. Thank you, I subscribed.
much appreciated!
It is such a nice camera. I did my first wedding with it two weeks ago as a main camera. Focus is so much faster then the ZII and it looks lovely!
The high ISO noise on the Z f is incredible. Add to that the low light AF is also incredible too. This is a low light monster.
Excellent review, everything explained in an eloquent and calm way. Sets a standard on how reviews should be made.
I appreciate that!
Wonderful images and video sequences. You have a great skill in story telling and video creation. This is always a pleasure to watch.
I’m three months in on the ZF, and I couldn’t be happier! The images appear just as sharp and clear as the high megapixel Sony‘s I was using, and it’s a lot more gentle on my computer, lol!
My hit rate with Sony‘s auto focus over the years was around 90 to 95%, pretty good, but so far after three months my hit rate with the ZF has been 100%!
And the colors are still vastly superior, and the way it handles dynamic range is still better than I had experienced with the Sony cameras.😊
One of the most thorough and informative real world reviews of a camera I've ever seen, thanks so much man.
I appreciate that!
Greatest camera I have ever owned, the Sd- Micro sd slot is pure genius imo
agreed!
YEP!
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I'm so tempted to get this camera. But I haven't seen anything special with the images. Which cameras did you own previously? It might help me decide. Thanks
@@Chum_chumi I still own a D750 and a D4s...I also own a Z5 and a Z6ii which I plan to sell but will still keep my DSLRs
100% it's my top 3 fav camera of all time, hands down.
I just watched a boatload of Zf reviews...this is one of the best. Thanks heaps 😊
very welcome! thanks for your attention 🙌
Lovely review, though I'm a bit baffled by the idea that you can love the camera but find the top dials unnecessary. Aren't they ... the point of a retro-design camera?
This was a much more practical review than others I have seen. Nikon recommends taking the battery out before trying to remove the memory cards. There is an interesting discussion in the Peta Pixel 2024 predictions video about the Canon R1. They have heard rumors that it is held up due to Canon not being able to engineer a fast enough processor. They even speculated that the R3 was designed to be the R1, but they realized they could do so much better with a faster processor so held back on the R1 designation.
thanks! i definitely recommend removing the battery if you need to eject the microsd card, but the sd really does pop out easily once you get a feel for it. will be keeping an eye on the r1 and will almost certainly buy one to try.
That's the review I've been waiting for! I've been hyped with that kind of adapter since Magic made a video with the Summilux 50 1.4.
Glad I could help!
Neewer has an L mount grip for the Zf with an F3-inspired red stripe. So pretty!
You are absolutely selling me on the ZF. Currently have my z6ii up for sale, will keep one for now, and if it takes a while to sell, maybe the z6iii will be announced and i might end up with that instead
Hi Sam - nice video. I've seen you on Taylor Jackson's videos in the past and appreciate your perspectives and insights.
A couple things I would mention: when it comes to noise, it is clear that the 24MP BSI sensor from the Z6II/Zf is going to be 'cleaner' out of camera than the 45mp stacked sensor of the Z8/9 - this is actually a matter of physics - has to do with heat relative to pixel density among other things. Most people recognize this outcome and as a result there is a notion in the photo community that lower MP sensors are better with low light - straight out of camera this is generally true (at least for sensors of a similar generation).
What is not generally recognized is that the 45MP sensor has so much more resolution that you can apply noise reduction to the files clean them up and still retain more detail than the shot done with the 24MP sensor. So, if you are someone that needs results straight out of camera then yes the Zf is the 'better' low light camera - but if best possible results are being considered (meaning one is willing to do post processing) then the Z8/9 shots will beat the Zf shots after NR is applied.
Secondly, I find it interesting that you do not like the dials at the top of the Zf in that they cannot do more things - this is actually the point of a retro camera - it seems that you are choosing to use this camera in the same way that you might have used a Z6II before - for your wedding work etc and as such you are shooting it in a similar manner. This is perfectly acceptable and it is a testament to the Zf that it is even able to be used in this manner as this is definitively its secondary function. For this issues you are having with the Zf, it is clear that you would do best with the upcoming Z6III - it will have a great grip so the flash issue will become moot; it will likely be 24-33MP so similar to the Zf; and it will have the same (if not better) AF capability as well as further improved video, and likely the same screen from the Zf that you like.
As a wedding photographer myselfn (among other things), there is no doubt that a Z6III will be the better choice for all day shooting at events (like weddings) than a Zf in spite of how cool and fun the Zf is. The Zf is really for nostalgia for those of us that have been shooting with Nikons since the days of the FE II and other similar cameras. Nikon went the extra mile and made it so competent that it can compete in a modern capacity, but this is not its primary function. I bring this up because your main issues seem to surround this issue and although you make accurate observations, I feel it should be noted that you are using this camera in a way that it was not primarily designed to be used. Again, the Z6III would likely be the perfect camera for your professional needs as it will squarely address all the issues you are having with the Zf and likely add some surprise additional features as well.
Anyway, sorry to have rambled so long - definitely enjoyed the video and your thoughts on the topic.
-PD
thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! i’m very aware of the sensor physics and tradeoffs :) the z6iii is a non starter for me if it doesn’t have the same articulating screen as the zf. it’s a make or break feature for me so, let’s hope! the styling of the zf does change the shooting experience - and it’s a significant impact - even without use of the top dials… so, while i will try the z6iii i’m not vying for it.
@@iamsamhurdphotography Thanks for this interesting and informative review. I admit that I'm tempted by the Zf, but I'm not crazy about the ergonomics of the retro body (even though I'm ancient and started my photography journey with a Zenith E). There is a a reason why manufacturers put deep grips on cameras. I'm hoping the Z6 (or 7) iii will have a regular tilting screen as I dislike flip screens. It's all a matter of taste and use case, of course. Even more preferable would be a screen that articulates both ways, like on some Fujis. That seems to offer the best of both worlds. Happy Christmas!
It’s a beautiful looking camera. Nicely built. I coupled mine with magadapter and Sigma i series lens. No lens profile correction for sigma 24mm f/2 DN DG. I have to shoot raw and I use Sony FE 28mm f/2 profile for lens distortion correction.
00:35 - 01:00 ..The most real and honest assessment of Nikon AF..
And ..In my humble opinion spot on💯💥
Insanely thorough review. This was great. Do you lower noise reduction in camera (profiles) or are these all raw?
should be all raw! glad you enjoyed
Wow what a great review! This is an amazing camera and worth the money imo, I purchased along with the 105 mm 2.8 macro z lens and nothing short of greatness.
Excellent review. I enjoyed this Zf review more than any of the others I’ve seen, and I don’t even need to know about it because I own it. Yet I still enjoyed the watch. 👍
Thanks for the review. I enjoy using the camera so much to the point that I acquired another Zf as my third body. I'll continue to use my Z9 for sports, actions, and tasks requiring heavier lenses or high-resolution files, while using the Zf's as my primary choice for all other purposes.
sounds like a nice and balanced collection
This is probably one of the best camera reviews that I have seen!
Hi, Sam! This is a great practical review! I'm waiting for the Z63, which will hopefully match or exceed the ISO and AF performance of the Zf, along wth better ergonomics for long work days. But the Zf sure looks tempting for shorter events and personal use/travel. I have a Z9 and Z62, and agree that the AF systems are night and day different.
i’ll be very curious if the z63 has an updated screen articulation!
Would love to see the z9 articulation in a z6iii
A really insightful video, no waffle and to the point. I learnt a lot, thank you!
I currently own a D750 & D850 and have been on the fence about jumping to mirrorless for years, Nikon Z F has been something I have been dreaming of, and I suspect this summer I'll take the pludge!
Showing the Lightroom comparisons were really helpful Sam, especially when someone is choosing between different bodies.
I edit in Capture One and my Zf files are so clean it's stunning. I've been so happy with that camera.
It really is!
Interesting. I had the Z9 and switched to Z8 and I find the files harder/ not as nice to edit - I don't have a Z9 any longer to compare so kinda good to hear you think the same. My presets don't look that close either - kinda annoying. Thinking of switching to ZF for weddings but I think I'll miss the joystick
Thanks Sam. Very interesting and informative video, especially your use of the Techart adapters. I’m looking forward to your future videos featuring the Zf.
Glad it was helpful!
What I really want from Nikon is - Real Time LUT like in the Panasonic cameras :). Than I can go Nikon from Sony because on Panasonic I can't use my lenses but Nikon has an adapter for E mount lenses. This is a game changer.
that’s the dream!!
For a second I thought you were Pedro Pascal
Mando shoots Nikon
@@benjhaischthis is the way
brother, this is the best zf review on youtube. thank you
glad you agree. just trying out here like anybody else.
You have a Noct and a Canon EF 50 f1.0? Wow!!!! I am impressed dude.
haha yes, thanks! my favorite between them is still the nikon 58 1.2
I'm looking at this as my first camera. Can't wait to grab one in a year or so
Happy to see more Photographers are making Nikon ZF content. Back then I can't see much of it.
awesome! i hate the label content creator, but ill take it for this post haha
@@iamsamhurdphotography Changed it. Now, I don't like to use "content creators" for Photographers and Videographers. 😂😂😂
Great idea of articulating screen with both side one for subject and one for photographer
i’ve been dreaming of it ever since the canon r! at a minimum it’d be great if the screen could be front facing and i could keep looking through the evf at the same time
Awesome, completely surprised by the adapters. Just awesome!
Very Nice review. I'm tempted by this camera after being disillusioned with photography for a while. I started my photographic journey with Nikon Film cameras so this camera feels familiar and the first mirrorless Nikon that attracts me. I last had the Nikon D800 some years ago. I sold my Noct some years ago (sigh) and the m11 is just too expensive and my eyes just don't do well with the RF anymore. But I do still have some M lenses so the autofocus lens art is a pleasant revelation. The less noise on the sensor is probably because this is a 24 megapixel camera as compared to 45 on on the z8. When packing more pixels in the noise characteristics change for the worse.
I literally slept on this video a month ago but since i got a ZF I've watched multiple times with glee.
haha, i still love mine too. this grip is my most recent fav $39 www.etsy.com/listing/1611547888/
There’s also the Megadap ETZ21 Pro where you can adapt e-mount lenses to mirrorless Nikon bodies. Reviews say it works!
yeah! i’ve tried that too, but don’t own any e mount lenses myself
I LOVE using the ISO dial on my Zfc, not sure why. I love the exp. comp wheel too but it seems to rotate backwards from how I think.
Awesome video. Have you had any problems with vignetting going F to M to Z? I saw another channel that mentioned it, but it might have been the lens he was using (50mm f/1.2).
no problem at all. it’s a lens issue, and the 50 1.2 definitely has a heavy vignette
100% agree with having the same UI between 2 devices. I used an iphone 8 for my personal phone and a face ID iphone for my work phone for a while. I was never able to use either efficiently until I got 2 with the same UI
Hey Sam! I've watched this review probably five times now and I really resonate with what you said around 14:08 where it feels like the more recent Nikon bodies have been going all out without the feeling like it's been nerfed to protect a higher end body or cinema line. I've still not fully committed to mirrorless yet but I have some Canon EF stuff and will be deciding whether to go RF or Nikon Z, and a big part of that will be based on if Canon still has that mentality. Nikon embracing the weird and niche stuff as well as making moves like buying RED, it's looking really exciting!
awesome! really glad you liked the review so much and i hope more companies take nikons lead :)
There's no Fuji-adapter unfortunately. Which is why I've been considering this camera lately.
Perfect video, very informative, thanks a lot!
Hello, thanks for the video. I might have missed the info - what lens(es) have you used for the image comparison between ZF and Z8? They look all great.
The top buttons are part of the appeal in first place to me. I find it funny people buy retro cameras and use them in full auto
yeah, that would be my one critique is that I could customize the top buttons to do other functions somehow
I really enjoyed the vintage lens comparison. Those adapters you have are sweet! I wish they had similar autofocus adapters for minolta rokkor shooters, but I have a feeling this is NOT the audience that this camera is for whatsoever LOL
Great review! Your review helped me in deciding to get one to compliment my Z7ii.
Glad I could help!
I just bought my first mirrorless camera, a Sony A7C2 japanese model from Bic Camera in Japan. It happened to be on sale. I now have slight buyer’s remorse. I learned to shoot on a 35mm film camera. The Nikon ZF seems better suited to street photography and adapting vintage MF lenses that I can buy from used camera stores in japan. The price difference between these 2 cameras was negligible. Shooting on the sony, while the end results are quite sharp, is such a sterile experience. The AI A.F. Does all the work. Should I switch?
id recommend a switch, yes
Thanks Sam, Im a ex Nikon shooter currently Sony A7R5. Im thinking of going back now with the new Z6 III, but I didn't realise Nikon had sorted the AF with this camera.
Thank you for sharing some great options there. Fuji has been designing these type of retro cameras for a while now. We’re do you think Nikon got its inspiration from. Just adding in to your comment at 13:45sec
for sure! I love fuji stuff, but I'm pretty sure nikon got their inspiration from the original nikon f cameras and not fuji
@@iamsamhurdphotography I agree except I think the body was inspired by the old Nikon film cameras, but I also think Nikon saw how popular fuji was getting and decided dip back into their retro roots. Just for reference I shoot Nikon and Fuji.
love the review. my favourite lens was the 55 f1.2 AIS, thou i'm a sony user, i still kept the lens. Could you help me here as I'm trying to understand your adaptor arrangement? You mention mounting a manual F lens on a F to M mount and Techart M to Z mount would enable the auto focus. So I'm guessing manual F to M mount, with techart M to E mount on sony body would work too?
yes, i believe that combo would work too. note that the techart m to e mount adapter does not have the same
functionality as the z mount version. i believe some focus modes are limited on sony
very interesting approach of camera
Thanks for this detailed review. I just traded in my beloved z6 for the zf. She should arrive next week. I am very excited.
you’ll looooooove it
08:55 you do not want to hold the lens while using its AF, the manual adapter is moving the lens front and back, by holding it you are making it harder to the adapter to do its job and it will wear the motor much faster. I am using those for years on my Sony and I have some service experience already :D
i’m mostly holding it for balance. also worth noting the sony adapter is thinner and weaker
@@iamsamhurdphotography I am just saying as a person who knows what is inside. This newer one (without the bulging part underneath) is more simple at first sight without gears but those 4 motors are maybe a worse idea because if one of them fails ... and again - they have their limitations and if I remember right it was 500g of a lens which is not a lot. I would not count on it working for long with high payloads and resistance from a hand holding the lens.
I still have 2 of the older adapters and one of they broke a gear, the other one had 2 times motor fail problems, but it is still running. I really like the idea of shooting my vintage lenses with one hand because of the AF. Just keep in mind that if you want them to work for long you have to use them with smaller glass :).
Got the “japan only” nikon grip for the Zf anD it’s perfect!!
I know this is an 8 month old review, but I just found it. Not sure which TechArt adapter you keep referring to for Sony, but they make the exact same adapter for E Mount as you have for Z mount and it works wonderfully. It's not limited to AF-S like you said. You can do full multiple focus modes, AF-C, eye tracking, etc. Works almost as good as native lenses. 11:38
possible that it's camera body dependent, and also software dependent. I tested the exact same adapter model on a Sony body December 2023, and it would not allow for every focus mode. good to know they've fixed it!
@@iamsamhurdphotography I have the Techart adapter on my Sony A1 and have a ZF with the Z mount Techart adapter on order, so I'll be able to make a direct comparison and see if there is a difference soon.
@@HikeSoloOutdoors perfect! definitely curious. hopefully they are essentially feature parity - it’s an expensive enough mount!
Thanks for this nice video. I was wondering in future videos if you can:
1) Do another focus test like you did on this video, but have the exposure set to cut out ambient light, and retest focusing in that mode, as I am curious to see how it will be for studio work.
2) There are some reports that there is a small blackout after the photo review which can delay the camera getting ready for shooting mode to commence shooting. Can you confirm if this is so and your experience with it?
Thanks again :)
I should probably snag that M mount adapter i was thinking of buying the voigtlander 75mm F/1.5 for my ZF 🤔
should work perfectly
Great review Sam. First time watching, but was not disappointed. Your thought process and approach to the camera was very helpful and the lens adapter review was awesome. Got two reviews for one. I am so surprised that Nikon put the card slots on the bottom. Impossible to deal with at times depending on grips, tripod mounts and such, but overall looks like a great camera. Can’t wait to get one.
thanks! glad you enjoyed
Pro portrait photographer here. Studio and natural light. Fuji since 2018. I have the XT5 and a X100V, the 33 and the 56. I trained on film, in the 80’s, my first camera was a Nikon FE.
I’m thinking of going with this Nikon. Do you recommend? And What lenses do you recommend? I have to have a 50 and an 85 for my workflow and I’d love a 35 or 28. Thanks for your advice!
Excellent review
I agree - the Nikon colors - just right.
And now the autofocus is where it needs to be
glad you agree!
I am a re-convert to Nikon. I switched to Sony 8 years ago because Nikon autofocus was absolutely abysmal and DSLRs in general had gotten enormous and heavy.
But I bought a Zfc this fall out of curiosity and it shocked me. Nikon colors are so much better than Sony and they really turned their autofocus around to actually be better than Sony. Besides, mirrorless cameras and lenses (besides the Fujis and Zf/Zfc) have grown bigger and heavier to be almost as bloated as the old DSLRs.
I packed up my a7R4 setup and will be trading it in on a new Zf and lens. 😃
indeed, I’m seriously considering jumping back.
I'm not trying to diss your choices. Every camera manufacturer makes awesome cameras these days and Nikon may now work better for you. But you are comparing the autofocus on a 61mp, resolution focused body, that was released in 2019 To a 20mp body released 2 years later. Have you compared it to something like the A74, a75, A1, or even a9/a9ii?
Yes, I’ve borrowed my Sony using co-photographer’s cameras (a7iv, a9ii etc.) and I am still impressed with Nikon’s autofocus performance.
How they went from horrible to world-leading in a few short years surprised me (that’s all I’m saying). Most importantly though, (much more important to me than autofocus) the colors of the Zfc especially in very challenging lighting situations are a world apart from any Sony I’ve used in day to day real world use. Now with the full frame Zf, it’s even better. The way these Nikons are handling color, light and dynamic range are a vast improvement over Sony…. This is from shooting my cameras 6-10 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week (and an equal amount of time editing). Just my personal experience and opinion though of course. 😉
I've also compared it to the a9 @@KEHA14
Man, you are a great speaker! Very engaging.
This is such a great review! I have a question though: was that the manual focus Leica Noctilux 0.95 that you were using with an adapter on the Nikon Zf? Can you please tell me the name of that adapter? Thanks.
yes, tech art m to z mount adapter.
Thank you very much for the very thorough review of the Nikon Zf. Maybe the best, but at least the most useful. I am one of those with a lot of Nikkor glass, also Pre-AI, so I have a Nikon Df. Also have a Canon 5D classic and MkII for my Zuiko lenses and EF T&S, but my main system is the m43 and will be in the future. Now, with tools, nothing is perfect for everything. Have long been at the stage of buying a GFX, but the TechArt adapter for the Zf has changed everything, as well as the fact that the Zf is so good in low light.
I am waiting for the Z6III... I am older, and sadly weaker, so I like the Z6II GRIP (and I agree about the Dials)... Just found Your YT Channel (but I am familiar of Your work) :) :) Do You have a vid about on camera flash??? Whenever I use a flash I do Off Camera Flash (even if only arm distance)(came from my photojournalism days)... I use 125gig SD cards so I seldom have a need to change during a shoot,, What size do You use??? I realize that SD can become corrupted (knock on wood, never yet)... Is the increased IBIS noticeable???? I think a larger dumy grip (as little extra weight as possible might be better than a battery grip for a long day).... I have been sticking to Nikon (since 1969) even with the slower focus problems (money is tight and I luv My Glass) Glad to hear You are back to Nikon (but cameras are tools so it does not really matter) But I like to hear Your in depth experience, and Your Perceptions !!! ThankYou :) :) :)
Went back thru Your Vids and found one about OnCF,, Cool !! :) :) :)
Lower pixel density usually results in lower noise. My 645Z has much better low light noise performance than my D850.
I ordered my Zf at launch, and it's been great. I bought Nikon Z 24-120/4 S as an all purpose lens, and Meike 85/1.4 for portraits. Also an FTZ II to use my F mount lenses.
Great video! Now I have to go buy one 😂
sorry about that 😂
What is the name of the auto focus adapter that gives older vintage lenses auto focus…thanks
The z6 vs z7 , or z8-9 vs ZF is about a stop difference in high ISO , and for the techart adapter with M lenses , you should set the aperture in camera to match what the lens is set to , not just for exif , but if it’s to far off from what the lens has it will have problems focusing … just my experience
interesting note! i do notice an odd relationship to focusing and exposure being tied to a range of iso that i’m shooting in. they’re doing something odd via software i can’t quite figure out
Great Video, Thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it
I’ve been on the fence for a while but I think you sold me.
i don’t think you’ll be disappointed!
Zf is a piece of art to buy and place in the living room alongside the legendary FE and FM. Still, the Zf seems like an amazing camera too.
Nikon is back , to become a leader.
Thank you for an excellent review.
❤ from Tel Aviv 🌹
Excellent video from beginning to end!
Glad you liked it!
Great review, Sam and I'm so happy Nikon finally came out with a camera like this. I also shot Nikon for 14 years or so and jumped ship after getting the Z7 which was not serious camera for any moving subject. I'm just wondering if the Techart adaptor is not the weak link here? I shoot a lot of multi day South Asian weddings and you are screwed if your autofocus adaptor dies in the middle of one of these events? Do you only use adapted lenses, or do you also have a couple of reliable Z lenses just in case this happens? Even if you're not in the middle of nowhere its still gonna take at least 24-48 hrs to get a new adaptor, presuming BH has it in stock.
so far i have not had any adapter issues - and i also have two adapters. no reason to assume both would fail at the same time, but i do own the 24 1.8, 24-70, and 40 f/2.0 z mount lenses too.
Yeah, that makes sense!
@@iamsamhurdphotography
Hi Sam,
do you know if you can switch Sony cameras into APS-C crop mode?
I've heard that you can't.
Thank you,
Taylor
i’m pretty sure you can’t, and i’ll continue to believe that until someone proves me wrong… in person… across multiple sony bodies.
@@iamsamhurdphotography What am I missing? I have a function button set on my A7RIV to switch the camera into crop mode. 61mp full frame, 26mp cropped. I must not be understanding Taylor's question.
@@dpfreedmanYou can do that on a 2013 a7. I have an a7s that does crop mode (5 megapixels!). I HAVE A 2010 CCD A390 WITH CROP MODE (in jpeg with live view). Taylor Jackson used Sony for a while. He should know this.
Yes if they are full-frame. you can even set it onto a custom button
😂😂😂
I loved this review! I'm looking for a backup autofocus camera for my M11 and this seems to fit the bill for everything I'd want. I noticed the Teenage Engineering CM-15 on your table, how is THAT doing in terms of performance??
it’s a wonderful mic!
Hi! I saw that techart had an adapter with autofocus for Sony FE to Nikon Z lenses. Do you really suggest I could use some old Konica or Zeiss lenses via adapter to Sony E, mount it on the Techart adapter and enjoy autofocus?
The ring interests me, to mount the summilux, summarit and other Canon in M mount on the ZF. Small and light lenses.
Sam, have you ever used the Minolta Rokkor 58mm f/1.4? I want to get a vintage lens for my Zf that isn't too expensive. I've also thought about a Helios, but I think that it's sort of a one trick pony (i.e. the swirly bokeh).
honestly my fav is the minolta 50 1.4 or 58 1.2… not sure i’ve tried the 58 1.4!
@@iamsamhurdphotography Thanks. I'll be on the look out for a 1.2 in decent condition. Any favorite bang for your buck vintage lenses? I'm mostly interested in portraiture.
Hey Sam! I recently got the Zf too and love it. The dials are the worst part (imo). Do you have more info somewhere about how you bypassed them. Im struggling with finding an alternative way to setup the shutter speed. I've dug around in the setting a few times and just cant seem to figure it out.
Set the shutter dial to 1/3 step and then you can use the main command dial as you would on other Nikon bodies.
great review!
Hi Sam, great review! Can you please compare it with a7iv? Especially in terms of auto focus, It looks like nobody has done it yet on youtube :/
i did shoot with the a7iv for a while but never did a head to head comparison. all i can tell you is i preferred zf for a range of reasons
Sony has 19:33 way better autofocus also for image quality your getting 15+ stops of dynamic range. I’d choose a iPhone 15pro over anything Nikon atm.
@@iamsamhurdphotography can you pls help elaborate this? Would be really great as I'm searching for this comparison and can't find any info on youtube or reddit. I feel there are sony shooters out there who really miss the shooting experience of the older Nikons but don't want to go back to film or move down to APS-C with Fuji. I'm an A7IV shooter primarily using manual lenses thinking of switching to the ZF. :)
yeah... that's ridiculous, but good luck with whatever you decide haha
@@lewcehjitl3282
well, if you're primarily a manual focus photog anyway then I would definitely move away from Sony. their strength is in their AF system and sensors, but the look of a sensor is very subjective, and I don't like most Sony files. though this is another subjective point... the shooting *experience* is superior with other camera brands. by that I mean the operation, the look, the menus, the render of lenses etc. my opinions are coming from a position where I can afford to shoot whatever system I want, and I have no brand loyalty/contracts with these companies that would instill any bias. just this year I went through two separate Sony bodies yet again and found the same conclusions.
@@DeatHbladeZ604
What do you think of the image color compared to Sony? Is it ideal for weddings and portraits?
i actually prefer it to both sony and canon colors.
Where are the affiliated links to the adapters? I would want you to get something back because you found this genius way to autofocus old lenses!
thanks for asking - i don’t really bother with affiliate links
Sam you actually stacked two adapters to cause the older Nikon AIS manual focus lens to autofocus on the Zf?
yup
Has the tehcart adapter worked consistently for you since this video? just got it for a new Zf I bought and I want to use my M lenses.
i’ve had zero issues and used it constantly
this is a really useful video about the adapter more than about the camera itself.
i did go on a bit of a tangent, haha. there’s not much else to say about the camera itself though - it’s pretty straight forward and i highlighted the strengths and weaknesses - not much else needed. my patreon article covered additional details.
I think the file size on Zf helps a lot to reduce the noise in high ISOs.
I’m so happy with this camera that I just keep watching Zf reviews to share this happiness!
One problem for me though, it’s the raw compatibility on apple. I was used to retouch on lighroom with my ipad, but now I have to turn the raw files in dng first… any idea how to fix this?
I believe we are at the mercy of dng converter to fix that but I’ll look into it. Personally, I only edit on Lightroom classic so it hasn’t been an issue yet.
@@iamsamhurdphotography Thanks for your insight
Wow so my old and beautiful Nikon AIS Glass will AF on the gorgeous ZF. Just wow
You mentioned that your all time favorite us/was Nikon Df (if I heard it right) but the text stated D5. Was it D5?
d5 it’s one of my all-time favorite sensors
I may have missed it, but did you test the Megadap ETZ21 Pro to use Sony E-Mount lenses on Z body?
nope - i don’t have any e mount lenses anymore. i only tested from the body perspective meaning sony a7r4 w/ the equivalent techart m mount to e mount af adapter
I bought the z8 based on your review. Once I start generating enough revenue from that camera I would like to pick this up
nice! nothing wrong with that camera… i just prefer the zf. enjoy either!!
@@iamsamhurdphotography oh I love the nikon z8 so much. I want the zf as a b cam so I can film on different angles. Right now I'm filming multiple times to get different shots. Also for travel photography, the zf with the 40mm f2 seems appealing.
Love your videos and how you present information
Very fun contents! thank you!
Comparing noise of the Zf vs Z8/9 at 100% is a bit unfair though, since the Zf pixels are much larger. If you want to compare fairly, you should downscale the Z8/9 images to the same resolution as the Zf. Or maybe even downscale both to an even lower resolution.
very true, but i’m not going to do that.
well said! And use Capture One
Yes all 45mp sensors from all 3 brands are grainy looking compared to 24mp with the stacked ones being just a touch higher than say R5/Z7.
Wow this is really interesting I've been on a vintage lens kick lately, I've been shooting them on an old Leica SL 601 body. I've got a Sony body but I never bought the Techart adapter because the performance seemed sub par. I might get the ZF as my vintage autofocus camera. Not to mention I've only got 2 Sony E enses but I could adapt those to Z mount with another adapter.
Top Video, really informative even for not Nikon users..thx a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Superb review! Thank you!
My pleasure!