If it's made public it was in R&D 50 years ago. We are kept in an obsolete reality. They trickle out the ideas(plans) as test balloons as a form of predictive programming. " We speak no plainer than we do in front of the profane ." - Albert Mackie , Prominent historian for masonry ; ' The Encyclopedia of Freemasonry ' Bill Cooper has quite a few programs on Alchemy.
@@daddycool228 Alan's work on predictive programming & explaining how levels of advanced sciences have been kept from the public is excellent. th-cam.com/video/e0HQLp6_xh8/w-d-xo.html
4:25 Wow explaining hybrids as the natural reaction to having two categories border each other, with the example of two nations interbreeding within the border towns, really clarified it for me. When you approach the edge of anything you will inevitably find hybrid mixtures.
Thank you, Jonathan. I'm glad I found you. I've recently been using a few of your videos in homeschooling my 16 yr. old. I thank God for your insights which are needed at this time.
Jonathan, there is a protestant microbiologist, Tom Terzin, a professor in Alberta, Canada, who has been saying this for years and it would be great if you had him on
Hey Jonathan, curious topic I'd love for you to explore more. Was thinking the other day regarding the whole 2012 Mayan "End of the world" scenario. Where they claim that the earth will experience a "polarity shift". Most people took that as meaning the "physical" poles of the earth shifting resulting in a massive climate catastrophe but the more I look at where the world is now and how it has so drastically changed since 2012 the more I think the "polarity shift" occurred within the metaphysical or inanimate world (within our morals, within the cultures, within the politics, etc.) With what was good is now "evil" and evil now "good",etc. etc. With the world seemingly so inverted all around it just feels like the great shift in poles occurred quietly and behind the veil so to speak. Would love to hear some of your thoughts regarding this, thanks! Keep up the great work, love your content. It syncs up so perfectly to my thoughts and many observations I notice all over society today.
Identity crisis is a major problem it’s like we don’t know what we are therefore we don’t know what to do and don’t wanna know cause if we don’t know that’s easier
Instead of an integrated worldview, disintegrated. We don't understand the why, what, when, how, or who. Mad world when those who seek understanding are called fools.
@@leemarshall348 that is up to you. One tattoo to me doesn’t deface you,(depending upon what it is). I have my patron saint on my chest. Would I do it again? No, but it’s there and it’s me.
@@leemarshall348 Jewish people aren't supposed to be tattooed or eat pork ... Jesus removed the ceremonial laws through crucifixion. Anything you have done will be forgiven if you accept the forgiveness with belief. Jesus said even blasphemy would be forgiven. Forgiveness is part of the essence of Christianity. if you take up the law and say you can get to heaven through your own merits you should try to be perfect. Jesus said none of us is good enough to pull it off.
I'm trying to stay away from news for the sake of my peace and my well being. As it happens I tune into your podcasts and feel like I get a more refreshing temperature of how our world is doing...if that makes sense. Keep doing what you are doing!
@@admiralmurat2777 At the sixth trump, in Rev. 10, the cavalry has exactly the same description of the mythological Chimera (J. Pageau showed a pic of it in this video), except for one thing, the goat head. It's uncanny.
Thanks to this 12 minute video I probably learned more about my place in the world than hours mentally searching for an answer. My mom is American and my father is Dutch, and for some reason I have lived life on the border between core identity and the foreign. Even with groups of friends I never completely feel part of the group. Thanks Jonathan!
I now when i am overwhelmed with my crazy busy life and don't wach your videos for some time, that when I come back, it will be a moment of fresh air for my mind.... Thank you again. Greetings from Serbia 🤓👏🌷
This is phenomenal. I will be sharing this to my entire town. By the way, we need the part two of video game symbolism. I doubt the delay was a glitch.
I had two thoughts on hybridity when watching this. One thing which came to mind is the obsession with "cross disciplinary" science. Another thing was the Pepe/frog twitter type movements. Amphibians are a sort of natural hybrid thing.
Seems like there should be a lot for someone like Pageau to say about amphibians. Not only are they hybrids, but they’re “stable” hybrids. I wonder if missionary churches or borderland Christian nations like Ethiopia have something there to. A hybrid that eventually stops being a hybrid and becomes stable and self-defined?
Mr. Pageau, I’m new to your channel and podcast (loving it so very much-thank you for your work!). I am wondering if you’ve ever sat down and had a conversation with fellow Canadian, Michael O’Brien? I just love that he too writes icons and is an artist and novelist that illuminates this same story and symbolism of which you speak. Again, thank you-your witness to me is beautiful.
In all seriousness I think the cultural phenomenon of "Bigfoot," has a lot to do with this. Its the modern epitome of a chimeric monster dwelling in liminal places.
it's amazing to me how well this pattern nests in the other dominant patterns today. The very way science functions is by seeking and challenging the furthest place from the center, and tricking that monster on the edge of the world to reveal its secrets, Karl Popper even draws a circle to represent the state of a scientific theory and explain the dynamics of how they interact with others. Not to mention how uplifting and positively reinforcing that attention to the edge means that we lose sight of the heart or even ourselves. It's so common to think that we are outside the system looking in, like we can take the place of those monsters on the edge of the world and pick and choose which circle we belong in depending on how we feel that day. seriously surreal and honestly vertigo inducing if you can find a static rock. It's surprising to me how civil society has managed to be up until now
Flood in a way reminds a process that takes place in our brain when we sleep. If I'm right it's a process where cells shrink and waters take out metabolic products. If metabolic products stay there they may interfere with communication of cells and their health (and some say that it relates to a state of grogginess that people may have when they didn't have enough sleep).
Smart phones are a good example of a chimera as they are a hybrid of various devices merged into one. It was for that reason I was uncomfortable having to finally get a mobile phone until last year when trying to get a old flip phone working with a provider proved impractical.
@Electro_blob 2 Dust is even less human than animals. So not sure how it would be dehumanizing to come from animals but not dehumanizing to come from dust. Fuerthermore there is zero good reason to interpret Genesis literally as you do.
@Electro_blob 2 Hmm no I don't pick and choose. I faithfully follow the teaching of the Catholic Church. In order to interpret biblical text you have take into account the kind of text it is. Genesis is not a historical not a scientific text, therefore there is no reason to interpret it as such. Even saint Augustine said that if some scientific knowledge contradicts Genesis, then there is no problem in saying that Genesis is not literal. The Gospel however is meant to teach history, and this is why the Resurrection is rightfully interpreted as historical. And yes, dust is not alive, and this is precisely why dust is inferior to an animal. There is more perfection and complexity in a monkey than in dust. This is why it is more fitting for humans to come from an animal than to come directly from dust.
There seems to be a bit of a difference between degeneracy and shamanism. What about all the cave art that are half man and half animal? What about the Egyptian hybrid gods? I once was in an ayahuasca ceremony with a Peruvian shaman. I went through the entire life cycle of the mammoth from birth to becoming a full grown male to then encountering and becoming the humans that hunted me. I could feel the sensations of my birth to the cold snow on the ground. I could feel the great love the humans had for the mammoths and I had a sense of all the songs that were sung and all the campfires that burned for thousands of years. I don’t remember this experience that I had with the plants like a dream or like a normal memory from my life. It was like for a brief moment my DNA opened up and I remembered and relived a part of the whole world’s consciousness. If we are to survive this time I think we must make a place In our world to remember where we came from. We must be able to loose control but find a new control much the way that someone learning to ride a bike for the first time goes through. We have to trust that we will be held up. We should do this together with nature and with Christ . To preserve we must be able to endure. We can sit for eight hours a day if need be like a Buddhist. We can take the strongest Amrita if need be. Christ endured. Christians must learn to endure and remember. If a man is given just a tiny amount of our shared cosmic memory then he will be able to fish himself. It is our birthright to remember. It can be said: By this merit may all obtain omniscience. May it defeat the enemy wrongdoing. From the stormy waves of birth, old age, sickness and death, May we free all beings.
I know this isn't truly like chimera symbolism, but I have been thinking for some time that the rise in Androgyny is something like an internal form of Chimerism. I've also been thinking a lot about the dehumanizing things that have been ramping up in the last year or so.. and though I hadn't though too much about Chimerism being related to this I have been thinking that this seems like a necessary step to lead into, later this decade maybe, more cyborg type things. Like a ramp up in implantable tech and eventually more exchanging of body parts for better, faster, stronger tech versions. There definitely is a small, but growing number of cyberpunk groups that are into this already and have already been experimenting with biohacking with tech/chips/etc implants. I just think you would need to dehumanize mass amounts of the young into not identifying with any gender/sex/etc so that as adults they will want to start with implants and progress further. I know it sounds very conspiracy, but I don't actually mean it that way at all... as I'm not even sure it's intentional or just a natural movement slowly in that direction. I come from an Astrology symbolism background myself, so I don't have the Christian part so much, but I've been really loving your videos as I love all things symbolism (hence the astrology). It's given me a much deeper appreciation for Christian symbolism and myths since my Evangelical Christian upbringing was completely literal without any symbolism at all. I've never heard any kind of symbolic Christian thinking besides some random encounters with Christian Mystics.
I believe all these things (androgyny, chimeras, transhumanism, etc.) make sense if you see them as manifestations of Gnostic thought. For example, Gnosticism considers the male-female distinction as a corruption and the result of an inherently flawed creation by an evil demiurge that we must overcome. Straight from the (Gnostic) gospel of Thomas: "When you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female [...] then you will enter the kingdom."
@Electro_blob 2 Is transhumanism really something new though? It seems to me that it was always the Gnostic dream and that it has recently started to manifest itself with more and more "body".
@@christopherlin4078 I don't see how "fascism" could stop this either. The current regime's global hold on power is far too strong for a reactionary movement in any single country to make much of a difference. It's far more important that people build alternative structures that can survive under the current regime and be ready to go after its collapse.
If I may add my two cents: Remember 'Field of Dreams?' If you build it, they will come. ? Wonderful in the context of that movie, but ever since I was struck with an unsettling, similar notion--If you build the environment, it will happen. (If you set up a place for something to live in, something will come and live in it!)
Alex jones on Michael Malice’s podcast said that human animal chimeras was the thing he believed was the most important thing to watch. I would love love love love to see y’all talk about that.
I just watched the trailer for Sweet Tooth, and immediately thought of your comments on hybrids being a sign of the times. I would love if you watched the film and reviewed it when it comes out on June 4th.
Truly, the Swiss Army knife was the harbinger of the end times! Sorry, I just had to after the spork picture. Of course, I get where you're coming from.
This is super helpful. Some musings that I'm trying to incorporate: First, the mingling of two species can produce a superior progeny: for thousands of years, humans have bred horses and donkeys to produce mules. Mules are tougher, smarter, hardier than either parent species. (See biblical examples for the preference for mules.) This is known as "hybrid vigor" or heterosis. Similarly, I see the beauty of marrying and mating across differences too. Consider Moses marrying the Ethiopian, Jesus' own forebears. Whereas the quasi-incestuous dynasties of Europe produced a lot of hemophilia. But the greater the difference, the more there are problems. Mules are sterile. Same for tiger trout (brown trout and brook trout) and all other interspecies hybrids. They cannot reproduce. And species of a different genus CANNOT reproduce, even to yield hybrids. Sexual intercourse does not bear young. My point is not to say, "But science...!" But rather, that there's meaning here too: There's something essentially false about the Minotaur and sphinx and chimera and other such monsters; they ought not exist; they wreak destruction when they do. Open to correction.
@@lukasjhdewaal8212 what should I go tto? Catholicism? Protestantiism?... I am lost and in France we don't hear about christianity a lot... I am scared for the future
@@jenesaisvraimentpasquoimet8473 you answer, the only answer, is Christ Jesus. Make a prayer and repent of your sins. Do that with all your heart and mind sincerly, and begin reading about Jesus's life and all the promises he has for you. You may start with the gospels of Matthew, mark, luke, and john; then, read the book of acts to understand how jesus changes our lives, as well as the power of prayer. After that read romans and on to have an idea of what it means to have a christian lifestyle and the blessings that comes with surrending your life to Jesus. The bible is all you need, brother; for it is the word of God. Keep praying and learning from the Lord, and He will answer and delivery from darkness. In the name of the Lord, you will find rest and peace. Jesus loves you unconditionally, believe that 🙏
Imagine that. You realize that if we (man) can dream it we can do it, good, bad, or indifferent imagining creates reality. There is nothing that exists that was not first imagined. Proverbs 4:23 Guard your heart with all diligence, for from it flow springs of life. Your work is a great blessing. I can't seem to get enough. Thank you!! 🙏 Peace be with you 🙏 PS- Matthieu's book is, well, I don't have the words🤯🧠🤯
Johnathan, have you read The Book of the New Sun series? In the second book Claw of the Conciliator the main character comes across an ancient cave of ape men, I think I understand why now lol. It's an excellent series and I highly recommend it.
From opening sequence of Rimsky-Korsakov’s Russian Easter Festival Overture, based on traditional Russian chant, “Let God arise, let His enemies be scattered...” m.th-cam.com/video/rXR0tloMmoo/w-d-xo.html
I think it might be in a sense. Like, in a traditional society I suppose you'd be seen as being of two peoples and nations. Which would call into question where your loyalties lie and so on. You might also serve as a bridge between two peoples, so it's not necessarily bad. Hope this helped.
@@James_Bee That's not entirely true. There are three subtypes of homosapiens but there is very little difference between them, the shapes of their skulls are different because they have advantages and disadvantages in certain areas. But like I said.theres not enough of a difference for anyone to be against "mixing"
Gender fluidity, trans-sexuality, drag queens, male pregnancy (sic), non-binary this and that, multi-culturalism...where does it stop? This is what's happening now.
The SEE.I.AYE. gives him his orders so its not really surprising at all. Satanic cults have infiltrated every aspect of our reality. Highest positions of power. In the news. Even in your own town no matter how podunk I'd bet you have a fr33maz0n hall.
Round, like a circle in a spiral Like a wheel within a wheel. Never ending or beginning, On an ever spinning reel Like a snowball down a mountain Or a carnival balloon Like a carousel that's turning Running rings around the moon Like a clock whose hands are sweeping Past the minutes on it's face And the world is like an apple Whirling silently in space Like the circles that you find In the windmills of your mind Like a tunnel that you follow To a tunnel of it's own Down a hollow to a cavern Where the sun has never shone Like a door that keeps revolving In a half forgotten dream Or the ripples from a pebble Someone tosses in a stream. Like a clock whose hands are sweeping Past the minutes on it's face And the world is like an apple Whirling silently in space Like the circles that you find In the windmills of your mind
Hybridity in inanimate things is ONE thing, breeding (or "cross-breeding") like-with-like is ANOTHER as in that "buffer-zone"... This crossing unlike with unlike... you phrased it: "monstrous". Whether it's "Spider-Goat Milk" or "Jellyfish-mice" that glow-in-the-dark and even, ESPECIALLY, crossing "humanity" with say, a BULL or a DOG or this "Monkey-Man" embryo thing... then I personally think that we are on the precipice of the abyss. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with "us". Much appreciated! : ) -EB
I’m of Jewish descent and we seem to be going the opposite way. Within our culture, especially in Israel, we highly discourage mixing with others. Believe it or not, there are actually call centers that you can call and inform when someone is dating a gentile - I’m not kidding! And they will actively try to break them up. However, we almost promote the mixing of other races of people together.
Ive recently come into JOnathans work on youtube and as an sda protestant the symbolic view he takes of the world and cosmology in general as a converted orthadox Christian has more resonance to my relation to my reality and view of the world and creation and i would like to understand some of the subject matters he raises. So im going through the playlist of work he has on his channels and wherever it takes me lol, not going through it to fast as to not burn myself out and never come back lol but i have a question pertaining creation and symbolism and God, i ask it here cause i dont know where else ill be able to reach Jonathan the question is, is it plausible to think that in a world of so much sin and so much meaning at the same time (and alot of that meaning explicitly found because of the sinful state of the world such as Christ bringing us life from death and plenty of other examples)that creation was meant to go down the sinful way given the symbolism and meaning found in everything? or are the logos and logi of things as we see and know them now independent of our sinful nature and thus environment? or is or was everything still going to have the same purpose/meaning/reasoning as they do now in perfection or had adam not sinned? to extract the understanding that has been imparted on us revealing great mysteries over the millennia since creation with the experiences they came with from the crucifixion to the covenants of Abraham Jacob and Moses and so fourth and especially considering the fact that we are possibly allotted an angel to lead us to the Creator and one that leads us away, is and was this trajectory of humanity the initial primary start of creation? Was Adam supposed to sin for our own good including the rest of creation from the angels above and demons below? ( ive tried to ask the same thing in different ways to get the understanding of thought across) ill post this on a few more videos in the hopes Jonathan answers thank you.
Anyone else wonder if Jonathan could just read ANY event or happenings into his symbolic worldview? I’ve listened/watched his stuff for a while now, but there just always seems to be some vital aspect of his explanations missing.
@Ace Virtus... that's the point of symbolism... I mean, if the Masons can wow their brick-laying buddies with centuries of symbolic stories based on a trowel and a plumb bob, then anyone can subjectively apply symbology, but there is a definite pattern...
@@ricerealtor980, is that really just the end of it? Pageau, speaks with at least some tacit authority on current events. For example, he’s been recently saying that the current state of decadence is going to lead to some sort of authoritarian backlash. Maybe that happens, but I have the suspicion that even if it doesn’t, Jonathan is going to claim he saw it coming in either case. I really do enjoy symbolic thinking, but I feel like it there needs to be some sort of empirical temperance in order to keep a semblance of a concrete view of things.
He was bringing attention to Psalm 22. As he quoted, those around would have known the rest of the Psalm. This is just as when someone sings the first line of a song, and you finish the rest. Check it out, it’s amazing. Especially Psalm 22:16. Wow.
What was the name of the author and book mention at the end of this clip? I caught something like budalaskin? And loris? Thank to anyone who can clarify!
Another excellent take, Jonathan. We are in the last days! "Repent, for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand"
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@1:00 the symbolism.. it is objective and it will manifest itself --- I heard an occultist named Richard Smoley state that pretty much exactly in their practice as well. Interesting parallel in God's kingdom and those that study witchcraft, some hard line rules.
Isn't it prophesied that in the ends of days will be like the days of noah? Like giants and monsters and stuff. Havent seen the whole vid but there my 2 cents.
In a story, I think their exists an opposing being that fights against corruption. So where is the pure and righteous hero that goes through the darkness to vanquish the chimeras/abominations?
If you look at a category as a normal distribution, it will inevitably overlap with the other normal distributions of other categories. If you look at what you find at the overlap, it isn’t so for from the category of chimera or hybrid. This isn’t so different a description. And you also have to look at that category as distributed in itself with various levels of hybridization, with the tail ends of the distribution taking you back to the initial categories outside of the overlap.
Dios te bendiga, Johnathan. Por ser uno de sus profetas y mensajeros, y recordarnos cuál es el camino a seguir en los tiempos de la gran tribulación. 🙏
I have always struggled with Genesis 6. However, the pattern of mixing humans seems evident through films... Terminator, WandaVision, Transformers, and many more. It seems that the idea of making another thing that is not a man will give freedom from conscience.
The difference, though, between thousands of years ago and now, is that we are now able to materialize these marginal patterns in an almost materlialist way. Meaning that chimera in the past were a lot more shadowy. And by that I mean that we probably told chimera stories about sightings of species we hadn't discovered yet, or animals or humans with physiological defects or mutations. Now we are actually going to produce chimera by mingling the dna of different species, something we have never been able to do. The same with vaccines, where vaccines were in the past, something like ritually drinking blood or injecting venom in order to kill the present disease. But now vaccines have become actual injections of disease that kill the disease, in a more material causal way. It's going to be very very strange times.
“The fact that they are telling us these things publicly means in private who knows....” yeah Jonathan gets it...
If it's made public it was in R&D 50 years ago. We are kept in an obsolete reality.
They trickle out the ideas(plans) as test balloons as a form of predictive programming.
" We speak no plainer than we do in front of the profane ." - Albert Mackie , Prominent historian for masonry ; ' The Encyclopedia of Freemasonry '
Bill Cooper has quite a few programs on Alchemy.
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It used to take two years to get a paper accepted in a reputable journal, but today some journals seem to have a membership fast track.
Can anybody tell.me where to start with symbolism?
@@daddycool228 Alan's work on predictive programming & explaining how levels of advanced sciences have been kept from the public is excellent.
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4:25 Wow explaining hybrids as the natural reaction to having two categories border each other, with the example of two nations interbreeding within the border towns, really clarified it for me. When you approach the edge of anything you will inevitably find hybrid mixtures.
The day that we decided that humans were not unique in creation, but were nothing more than higher evolved animals, we erased a border.
@@minimouse7890 But that's the thing, our higher evolution is such that we are unique and distinct from animals.
Thank you, Jonathan. I'm glad I found you. I've recently been using a few of your videos in homeschooling my 16 yr. old. I thank God for your insights which are needed at this time.
Haha 16 too
What did you use them for?
Jonathan is good because he takes things that are true but sound crazy and makes them digestible and believable.
“And they shall mingle in the seed of men; but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay....”
This text from Daniel refers to how nations intermingled in the Roman Empire.
I like that, “Be an antidote.” And “Tell a better story.” Thank you for reminding us we can do something.
Alex Jones has been talking about this for years. Remember his (in)famous bit about fishhybrids
he was just a part of the awaken....but he is not your friend
They're making the frogs practice voodoo!
@@Jesse-fk3xc he's "El Guapo"!
@@Jesse-fk3xc What? No..
What creature escape from the Island of Dr. Monroe?
When I was young I was told you can’t unkiss a girl. Once you go somewhere you can’t ungo there even if you try.
Jonathan, there is a protestant microbiologist, Tom Terzin, a professor in Alberta, Canada, who has been saying this for years and it would be great if you had him on
Tomislav Terzin is an Adventist but I agree, have him on.
If you had a time machine, would you go back and kill the inventor of the flashlight pen as a baby?
And don't even start on the 'spork' guy.
I’d do it, using a spork.
@@Joethesensei And then taking his place? Because you brought a spork from the future, so they must have existed.
@@intedominesperavi6036 no, recall that although sporks existed, it’s the flashlight pen guy I’m disposing of, not the spork guy.
Jonathan’s next video: how goofy comments in response to serious thought are a hallmark of society’s unraveling.
Hey Jonathan, curious topic I'd love for you to explore more. Was thinking the other day regarding the whole 2012 Mayan "End of the world" scenario. Where they claim that the earth will experience a "polarity shift". Most people took that as meaning the "physical" poles of the earth shifting resulting in a massive climate catastrophe but the more I look at where the world is now and how it has so drastically changed since 2012 the more I think the "polarity shift" occurred within the metaphysical or inanimate world (within our morals, within the cultures, within the politics, etc.) With what was good is now "evil" and evil now "good",etc. etc. With the world seemingly so inverted all around it just feels like the great shift in poles occurred quietly and behind the veil so to speak. Would love to hear some of your thoughts regarding this, thanks! Keep up the great work, love your content. It syncs up so perfectly to my thoughts and many observations I notice all over society today.
Identity crisis is a major problem it’s like we don’t know what we are therefore we don’t know what to do and don’t wanna know cause if we don’t know that’s easier
By design...
Instead of an integrated worldview, disintegrated. We don't understand the why, what, when, how, or who. Mad world when those who seek understanding are called fools.
There's a reason it's considered a sin to celebrate mediocrity
Signs that we are nearing the end of the story. Such a great way to put it to illuminate.
Which story do you think we are nearing the end of?
@@1walkerw everything. The end of the age is knocking at the door
Do things like changing sex and similar also apply here?
Anything other than God’s original creation is a hybrid.
A missing of the mark or sin.
You mean *trying* to change sex. There's no such thing as actually changing sex. But yes, I think that's a similar thing.
@@HubertofLiege should people with tattoos get them removed? I have a tattoo on my shoulder that I kinda want removed for this exact reason
@@leemarshall348 that is up to you. One tattoo to me doesn’t deface you,(depending upon what it is). I have my patron saint on my chest. Would I do it again? No, but it’s there and it’s me.
@@leemarshall348 Jewish people aren't supposed to be tattooed or eat pork ... Jesus removed the ceremonial laws through crucifixion. Anything you have done will be forgiven if you accept the forgiveness with belief. Jesus said even blasphemy would be forgiven. Forgiveness is part of the essence of Christianity. if you take up the law and say you can get to heaven through your own merits you should try to be perfect. Jesus said none of us is good enough to pull it off.
As a Chimera, I am triggered by this video. This is my first post on social media. I've had trouble typing this with my hoof.
Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to raise the children?
@@jimmieoakland3843 Catholic, of course. ;)
Wich side of the "isolating" Chinese Wall are you located at?...and Is there a Hindu tempel nearby?..lol
@@Hammett175, Good Girl! 👌
@@derkysterk9286, are you a THEIST? 🤔
If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓
I'm trying to stay away from news for the sake of my peace and my well being. As it happens I tune into your podcasts and feel like I get a more refreshing temperature of how our world is doing...if that makes sense.
Keep doing what you are doing!
Best youtube channel. Um alô do Brasil! 🇧🇷
Really looking forward to your talk with Vodolazkin, very exciting!
With every day that passes, the book of Revelations starts to become more clear
Amen
Concerning hybrids?
@@admiralmurat2777 At the sixth trump, in Rev. 10, the cavalry has exactly the same description of the mythological Chimera (J. Pageau showed a pic of it in this video), except for one thing, the goat head. It's uncanny.
Also the tower of Babel
wait til you find out the earth is flat
Thanks to this 12 minute video I probably learned more about my place in the world than hours mentally searching for an answer. My mom is American and my father is Dutch, and for some reason I have lived life on the border between core identity and the foreign. Even with groups of friends I never completely feel part of the group. Thanks Jonathan!
I now when i am overwhelmed with my crazy busy life and don't wach your videos for some time, that when I come back, it will be a moment of fresh air for my mind.... Thank you again. Greetings from Serbia 🤓👏🌷
This is phenomenal. I will be sharing this to my entire town. By the way, we need the part two of video game symbolism. I doubt the delay was a glitch.
make posters, hand out pieces of paper
Do not return to monke guys 🐒 We've been decievied. I repeat - DO NOT return to monke under any circumstances 🙅🏻
@Electro_blob 2 i meant to write Genesis doesn't contradict evolution.
@@MicahMicahel how does it? The world was made in 6 days.
@@stephanusghibellino evolution is nonsense.
Return to MONK
yup.. rather than return, we might RETVRN to monke..
Where there are no ethical boundaries men pursue wicked ends in the name of progress
Your intro has progressed remarkably. The final trumpet is a bit jarring and it does a great job of bringing my attention to the intended focal point!
I had two thoughts on hybridity when watching this. One thing which came to mind is the obsession with "cross disciplinary" science. Another thing was the Pepe/frog twitter type movements. Amphibians are a sort of natural hybrid thing.
Seems like there should be a lot for someone like Pageau to say about amphibians. Not only are they hybrids, but they’re “stable” hybrids.
I wonder if missionary churches or borderland Christian nations like Ethiopia have something there to. A hybrid that eventually stops being a hybrid and becomes stable and self-defined?
Mr. Pageau, I’m new to your channel and podcast (loving it so very much-thank you for your work!). I am wondering if you’ve ever sat down and had a conversation with fellow Canadian, Michael O’Brien? I just love that he too writes icons and is an artist and novelist that illuminates this same story and symbolism of which you speak. Again, thank you-your witness to me is beautiful.
I only read the story today actually and then I saw this video. Very useful analysis.
In all seriousness I think the cultural phenomenon of "Bigfoot," has a lot to do with this. Its the modern epitome of a chimeric monster dwelling in liminal places.
Crazy because I believed big foot had some connections to Giants too
it's amazing to me how well this pattern nests in the other dominant patterns today. The very way science functions is by seeking and challenging the furthest place from the center, and tricking that monster on the edge of the world to reveal its secrets, Karl Popper even draws a circle to represent the state of a scientific theory and explain the dynamics of how they interact with others. Not to mention how uplifting and positively reinforcing that attention to the edge means that we lose sight of the heart or even ourselves. It's so common to think that we are outside the system looking in, like we can take the place of those monsters on the edge of the world and pick and choose which circle we belong in depending on how we feel that day. seriously surreal and honestly vertigo inducing if you can find a static rock. It's surprising to me how civil society has managed to be up until now
Flood in a way reminds a process that takes place in our brain when we sleep. If I'm right it's a process where cells shrink and waters take out metabolic products.
If metabolic products stay there they may interfere with communication of cells and their health (and some say that it relates to a state of grogginess that people may have when they didn't have enough sleep).
Smart phones are a good example of a chimera as they are a hybrid of various devices merged into one. It was for that reason I was uncomfortable having to finally get a mobile phone until last year when trying to get a old flip phone working with a provider proved impractical.
retvrn to monke
properly spelled retvrn, based..
@Electro_blob 2 The human soul comes directly from God but the human body came by evolution.
@Electro_blob 2 Satya* Yuga sir
@Electro_blob 2 Dust is even less human than animals. So not sure how it would be dehumanizing to come from animals but not dehumanizing to come from dust.
Fuerthermore there is zero good reason to interpret Genesis literally as you do.
@Electro_blob 2 Hmm no I don't pick and choose. I faithfully follow the teaching of the Catholic Church. In order to interpret biblical text you have take into account the kind of text it is. Genesis is not a historical not a scientific text, therefore there is no reason to interpret it as such. Even saint Augustine said that if some scientific knowledge contradicts Genesis, then there is no problem in saying that Genesis is not literal. The Gospel however is meant to teach history, and this is why the Resurrection is rightfully interpreted as historical.
And yes, dust is not alive, and this is precisely why dust is inferior to an animal. There is more perfection and complexity in a monkey than in dust. This is why it is more fitting for humans to come from an animal than to come directly from dust.
Thanks for the videos Jonathan, great work.
It looks like this argument should have been present at the lunch table in Jurassic Park.
There seems to be a bit of a difference between degeneracy and shamanism. What about all the cave art that are half man and half animal? What about the Egyptian hybrid gods? I once was in an ayahuasca ceremony with a Peruvian shaman. I went through the entire life cycle of the mammoth from birth to becoming a full grown male to then encountering and becoming the humans that hunted me. I could feel the sensations of my birth to the cold snow on the ground. I could feel the great love the humans had for the mammoths and I had a sense of all the songs that were sung and all the campfires that burned for thousands of years. I don’t remember this experience that I had with the plants like a dream or like a normal memory from my life. It was like for a brief moment my DNA opened up and I remembered and relived a part of the whole world’s consciousness. If we are to survive this time I think we must make a place In our world to remember where we came from. We must be able to loose control but find a new control much the way that someone learning to ride a bike for the first time goes through. We have to trust that we will be held up. We should do this together with nature and with Christ . To preserve we must be able to endure. We can sit for eight hours a day if need be like a Buddhist. We can take the strongest Amrita if need be. Christ endured. Christians must learn to endure and remember. If a man is given just a tiny amount of our shared cosmic memory then he will be able to fish himself. It is our birthright to remember. It can be said: By this merit may all obtain omniscience. May it defeat the enemy wrongdoing. From the stormy waves of birth, old age, sickness and death, May we free all beings.
keep up the good work. I love listening to you talk.
I know this isn't truly like chimera symbolism, but I have been thinking for some time that the rise in Androgyny is something like an internal form of Chimerism. I've also been thinking a lot about the dehumanizing things that have been ramping up in the last year or so.. and though I hadn't though too much about Chimerism being related to this I have been thinking that this seems like a necessary step to lead into, later this decade maybe, more cyborg type things. Like a ramp up in implantable tech and eventually more exchanging of body parts for better, faster, stronger tech versions. There definitely is a small, but growing number of cyberpunk groups that are into this already and have already been experimenting with biohacking with tech/chips/etc implants. I just think you would need to dehumanize mass amounts of the young into not identifying with any gender/sex/etc so that as adults they will want to start with implants and progress further. I know it sounds very conspiracy, but I don't actually mean it that way at all... as I'm not even sure it's intentional or just a natural movement slowly in that direction.
I come from an Astrology symbolism background myself, so I don't have the Christian part so much, but I've been really loving your videos as I love all things symbolism (hence the astrology). It's given me a much deeper appreciation for Christian symbolism and myths since my Evangelical Christian upbringing was completely literal without any symbolism at all. I've never heard any kind of symbolic Christian thinking besides some random encounters with Christian Mystics.
I believe all these things (androgyny, chimeras, transhumanism, etc.) make sense if you see them as manifestations of Gnostic thought. For example, Gnosticism considers the male-female distinction as a corruption and the result of an inherently flawed creation by an evil demiurge that we must overcome. Straight from the (Gnostic) gospel of Thomas:
"When you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female [...] then you will enter the kingdom."
@Electro_blob 2 Is transhumanism really something new though? It seems to me that it was always the Gnostic dream and that it has recently started to manifest itself with more and more "body".
@@jay_13875 Man... the layers of irony
@@jay_13875 the only way to stop this from happening is fascism. and is this something that we would trade freedom for?
@@christopherlin4078 I don't see how "fascism" could stop this either. The current regime's global hold on power is far too strong for a reactionary movement in any single country to make much of a difference.
It's far more important that people build alternative structures that can survive under the current regime and be ready to go after its collapse.
If I may add my two cents: Remember 'Field of Dreams?' If you build it, they will come. ? Wonderful in the context of that movie, but ever since I was struck with an unsettling, similar notion--If you build the environment, it will happen. (If you set up a place for something to live in, something will come and live in it!)
If you look into the spiritual, it looks back.
Alex jones on Michael Malice’s podcast said that human animal chimeras was the thing he believed was the most important thing to watch. I would love love love love to see y’all talk about that.
I just watched the trailer for Sweet Tooth, and immediately thought of your comments on hybrids being a sign of the times. I would love if you watched the film and reviewed it when it comes out on June 4th.
This isn't what we meant when we said "return to monke."
Truly, the Swiss Army knife was the harbinger of the end times! Sorry, I just had to after the spork picture. Of course, I get where you're coming from.
This is super helpful. Some musings that I'm trying to incorporate:
First, the mingling of two species can produce a superior progeny: for thousands of years, humans have bred horses and donkeys to produce mules. Mules are tougher, smarter, hardier than either parent species. (See biblical examples for the preference for mules.) This is known as "hybrid vigor" or heterosis.
Similarly, I see the beauty of marrying and mating across differences too. Consider Moses marrying the Ethiopian, Jesus' own forebears. Whereas the quasi-incestuous dynasties of Europe produced a lot of hemophilia.
But the greater the difference, the more there are problems. Mules are sterile. Same for tiger trout (brown trout and brook trout) and all other interspecies hybrids. They cannot reproduce.
And species of a different genus CANNOT reproduce, even to yield hybrids. Sexual intercourse does not bear young.
My point is not to say, "But science...!" But rather, that there's meaning here too: There's something essentially false about the Minotaur and sphinx and chimera and other such monsters; they ought not exist; they wreak destruction when they do.
Open to correction.
Another point, while Mules are superior than the parents. They are sterile.
In conclusion: the world is about to become a whole lot more magical (for better or worse)
*for better AND worse
For worse. Definately worse.
@@lukasjhdewaal8212 what should I go tto? Catholicism? Protestantiism?... I am lost and in France we don't hear about christianity a lot... I am scared for the future
@@jenesaisvraimentpasquoimet8473 you answer, the only answer, is Christ Jesus. Make a prayer and repent of your sins. Do that with all your heart and mind sincerly, and begin reading about Jesus's life and all the promises he has for you. You may start with the gospels of Matthew, mark, luke, and john; then, read the book of acts to understand how jesus changes our lives, as well as the power of prayer. After that read romans and on to have an idea of what it means to have a christian lifestyle and the blessings that comes with surrending your life to Jesus. The bible is all you need, brother; for it is the word of God. Keep praying and learning from the Lord, and He will answer and delivery from darkness. In the name of the Lord, you will find rest and peace. Jesus loves you unconditionally, believe that 🙏
@@jenesaisvraimentpasquoimet8473 Catholicism. Def not protestantism. Find a Latin Mass parish.
Could you give your opinions on the book The revolutionary phenotype?
"The Shin-Ra Electric Power company isn't the real enemy..."
Imagine Jonathan disecting the Dark Tower. That would be a whole series.
What is your thought on transhumanism?
Deus vult
It's techno-gnosticism, basically. Cyberspace is heaven, mind uploading is the purification of the body into light (electricity).
@@PulsatingShadow Ghost in a machine instead of machine in a ghost
Imagine that. You realize that if we (man) can dream it we can do it, good, bad, or indifferent imagining creates reality.
There is nothing that exists that was not first imagined. Proverbs 4:23
Guard your heart with all diligence, for from it flow springs of life.
Your work is a great blessing. I can't seem to get enough. Thank you!!
🙏 Peace be with you 🙏
PS- Matthieu's book is, well, I don't have the words🤯🧠🤯
Johnathan, have you read The Book of the New Sun series? In the second book Claw of the Conciliator the main character comes across an ancient cave of ape men, I think I understand why now lol. It's an excellent series and I highly recommend it.
I’d love to see Jonathan discuss Book of the New Sun!
@@LightEdge9 couldn’t possibly agree more! It seems RIGHT up his alley!
Great video !
Whats the intro music for the logo? It sounds so familiar. Great video!
From opening sequence of Rimsky-Korsakov’s Russian Easter Festival Overture, based on traditional Russian chant, “Let God arise, let His enemies be scattered...” m.th-cam.com/video/rXR0tloMmoo/w-d-xo.html
Is this mythological pattern of the chimera or mixture of two things a parallel to the dissolving of the individual and/or homogenization?
Is increase in race-mixing included in this as well? I’m mixed race myself, so don’t take this as some racist thing. Just curious on your thoughts.
I think it might be in a sense. Like, in a traditional society I suppose you'd be seen as being of two peoples and nations. Which would call into question where your loyalties lie and so on. You might also serve as a bridge between two peoples, so it's not necessarily bad.
Hope this helped.
Just hope you dont need a organ or bone marrow donor
@@DavidRemington Cultures also, not neccesarily just nations. Important point.
"Race" as you described is simply different levels of melanin. There is only one "race" of men.
Cultures aside, we are all human.
@@James_Bee That's not entirely true. There are three subtypes of homosapiens but there is very little difference between them, the shapes of their skulls are different because they have advantages and disadvantages in certain areas. But like I said.theres not enough of a difference for anyone to be against "mixing"
Gender fluidity, trans-sexuality, drag queens, male pregnancy (sic), non-binary this and that, multi-culturalism...where does it stop? This is what's happening now.
Do you ever give any thought to Sasquatch? I don't mean this flippantly, I take the subject seriously, as I do your work. 🙏
He briefly talks about it with Owen Cyclops
Great video.
How does this line up with Humans mixing with technology or AI? For example robotic arms, or more concerning, computer chips in brains?
Well this is another win for Alex Jones... The man is on a pretty impressive roll.
The SEE.I.AYE. gives him his orders so its not really surprising at all. Satanic cults have infiltrated every aspect of our reality. Highest positions of power. In the news. Even in your own town no matter how podunk I'd bet you have a fr33maz0n hall.
Round, like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel.
Never ending or beginning,
On an ever spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning
Running rings around the moon
Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes on it's face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind
Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it's own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone
Like a door that keeps revolving
In a half forgotten dream
Or the ripples from a pebble
Someone tosses in a stream.
Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes on it's face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind
How does this connect with the philosophy of PAGEAU'S fellow French Man, DELEUZE? This should be unpacked, symbolically if possible.
Hybridity in inanimate things is ONE thing, breeding (or "cross-breeding") like-with-like is ANOTHER as in that "buffer-zone"... This crossing unlike with unlike... you phrased it: "monstrous". Whether it's "Spider-Goat Milk" or "Jellyfish-mice" that glow-in-the-dark and even, ESPECIALLY, crossing "humanity" with say, a BULL or a DOG or this "Monkey-Man" embryo thing... then I personally think that we are on the precipice of the abyss. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with "us". Much appreciated! : ) -EB
I’m of Jewish descent and we seem to be going the opposite way. Within our culture, especially in Israel, we highly discourage mixing with others. Believe it or not, there are actually call centers that you can call and inform when someone is dating a gentile - I’m not kidding! And they will actively try to break them up. However, we almost promote the mixing of other races of people together.
Gross.
Have you seen the movie Sorry To Bother You? There is some great satyrical chimera symbolism in that film.
Just think how much this will change forensic science
Ive recently come into JOnathans work on youtube and as an sda protestant the symbolic view he takes of the world and cosmology in general as a converted orthadox Christian has more resonance to my relation to my reality and view of the world and creation and i would like to understand some of the subject matters he raises.
So im going through the playlist of work he has on his channels and wherever it takes me lol, not going through it to fast as to not burn myself out and never come back lol but i have a question pertaining creation and symbolism and God, i ask it here cause i dont know where else ill be able to reach Jonathan the question is, is it plausible to think that in a world of so much sin and so much meaning at the same time (and alot of that meaning explicitly found because of the sinful state of the world such as Christ bringing us life from death and plenty of other examples)that creation was meant to go down the sinful way given the symbolism and meaning found in everything? or are the logos and logi of things as we see and know them now independent of our sinful nature and thus environment? or is or was everything still going to have the same purpose/meaning/reasoning as they do now in perfection or had adam not sinned? to extract the understanding that has been imparted on us revealing great mysteries over the millennia since creation with the experiences they came with from the crucifixion to the covenants of Abraham Jacob and Moses and so fourth and especially considering the fact that we are possibly allotted an angel to lead us to the Creator and one that leads us away, is and was this trajectory of humanity the initial primary start of creation? Was Adam supposed to sin for our own good including the rest of creation from the angels above and demons below? ( ive tried to ask the same thing in different ways to get the understanding of thought across)
ill post this on a few more videos in the hopes Jonathan answers thank you.
Anyone else wonder if Jonathan could just read ANY event or happenings into his symbolic worldview?
I’ve listened/watched his stuff for a while now, but there just always seems to be some vital aspect of his explanations missing.
@Ace Virtus... that's the point of symbolism... I mean, if the Masons can wow their brick-laying buddies with centuries of symbolic stories based on a trowel and a plumb bob, then anyone can subjectively apply symbology, but there is a definite pattern...
@@ricerealtor980, is that really just the end of it? Pageau, speaks with at least some tacit authority on current events.
For example, he’s been recently saying that the current state of decadence is going to lead to some sort of authoritarian backlash. Maybe that happens, but I have the suspicion that even if it doesn’t, Jonathan is going to claim he saw it coming in either case.
I really do enjoy symbolic thinking, but I feel like it there needs to be some sort of empirical temperance in order to keep a semblance of a concrete view of things.
Christ have mercy.
God has abandoned the world today the bad guys won
@@cainjaymes8867 never give up bro.
Have you earnestly researched transvestigation? The hybrids are already here. And it goes a lot further than just the celebrities.
This guy is the best. Thank you
Must have been the hardest part of this video to not use an anime cat girl image. We admire your resolve.
So... Catgirls are a sign of the end times?
Cat girls are a sign of the golden age
Question for the next Q&A: Why did Christ on the cross say: "Father why have you forsaken me?"
He was bringing attention to Psalm 22. As he quoted, those around would have known the rest of the Psalm. This is just as when someone sings the first line of a song, and you finish the rest. Check it out, it’s amazing. Especially Psalm 22:16. Wow.
Do a video on the symbolism of vaccines and the response to the covid vaccine
Yes please.
He's already done this (the symbolism part), I'm not sure if it is on youtube though. I watched it on bitchute
There was a short series based on this idea made in the UK on the nineties. Good series. It didn't end well for the main characters.
I remember it! It was called Chimera. Scary shit.
What was the name of the author and book mention at the end of this clip? I caught something like budalaskin? And loris? Thank to anyone who can clarify!
Margaret Atwood’s work is rife with this symbolism.
I'm Catholic and obsessed with this TH-cam Channel. Hope you make a collaboration with Bishop Barron or Breaking into the Habit channel ❤😍❤
Another excellent take, Jonathan. We are in the last days! "Repent, for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand"
@1:00 the symbolism.. it is objective and it will manifest itself --- I heard an occultist named Richard Smoley state that pretty much exactly in their practice as well. Interesting parallel in God's kingdom and those that study witchcraft, some hard line rules.
As above so below as it is in heaven so be it on earth pretty much
I just learned a new expression.
"Symbolism happens..."
How much would a thing like that cost?
In Minneapolis there is a Asian/Mexican Food Fusion restaurant.
I’d buy a symbolism happens shirt
One of the best & most relevant 🤓✏️🚂📗📖📙✏️, Thanks Jonathan!
Whats the symbolism of the audio not being synced? ;-)
Isn't it prophesied that in the ends of days will be like the days of noah? Like giants and monsters and stuff. Havent seen the whole vid but there my 2 cents.
Thanks
In a story, I think their exists an opposing being that fights against corruption. So where is the pure and righteous hero that goes through the darkness to vanquish the chimeras/abominations?
This was very interesting.
Was the devil runners a human-runner hybrid?
There are trees that by cuts can grow different fruits, are they caimeras🤔
Rule of thumb: Department of Defense cutting edge tech is 20 years ahead of what is mainstream.
If you look at a category as a normal distribution, it will inevitably overlap with the other normal distributions of other categories. If you look at what you find at the overlap, it isn’t so for from the category of chimera or hybrid. This isn’t so different a description. And you also have to look at that category as distributed in itself with various levels of hybridization, with the tail ends of the distribution taking you back to the initial categories outside of the overlap.
plot twist: time is a circle like the clock and the past and future run into each other.
Dios te bendiga, Johnathan. Por ser uno de sus profetas y mensajeros, y recordarnos cuál es el camino a seguir en los tiempos de la gran tribulación. 🙏
I have always struggled with Genesis 6. However, the pattern of mixing humans seems evident through films... Terminator, WandaVision, Transformers, and many more. It seems that the idea of making another thing that is not a man will give freedom from conscience.
Wow ! It all make sense ! Thank you my eyes are open !
The difference, though, between thousands of years ago and now, is that we are now able to materialize these marginal patterns in an almost materlialist way. Meaning that chimera in the past were a lot more shadowy. And by that I mean that we probably told chimera stories about sightings of species we hadn't discovered yet, or animals or humans with physiological defects or mutations. Now we are actually going to produce chimera by mingling the dna of different species, something we have never been able to do. The same with vaccines, where vaccines were in the past, something like ritually drinking blood or injecting venom in order to kill the present disease. But now vaccines have become actual injections of disease that kill the disease, in a more material causal way. It's going to be very very strange times.