We all learn the art of stained glass at different speeds. If you're using your grinder a lot you may fine the one we shot recently on adjusting a grinder bit useful. 🙂🙂🙂
Getting back to stained glass construction since late 70’s to do flat window panels (was doing Tiffany lamps before). Starting with a “sun catcher” hanging design to regain all my skills before tackling a very challenging large panel going into our entry door window. My grozing wasn’t going like I remember so I found your video and discovered I was holding the pliers upside down. Going to mark “UP” on the flat side so I can’t easily make that mistake again. You have many tutorials on panel construction steps that will be a God-send to me. Thanks for being there and your willingness to take the time producing these videos. Your generosity and helpfulness is greatly appreciated.
We teach many classes and find students easily get their grozing pliers upside down, in fact there was a you tube video teacher who was holding holding them upside down (he was new and he's gotten better over time) 🙂🙂🙂
Thank you, I hope you find the rest of our videos worth watching. We try to teach everything about doing stained glass and then we discover something we've left out!!!
Thank you so much for your information. I have not done stained glass for several years and at my age I have forgotten quite a bit and you have helped me so much.
Hey guys one a new stained glass artist and I watched almost all of y'all videos and taught myself how to do this wonderful lost art. I've been doing it for about five months now and just love it. But if not for y'all I wouldn't of learned how to do it properly and I'm still learnining
Managed to break 2 pieces with cutting a deep curve.😩 Have 1 more chance to get it right. Now I know how to prevent it from happening again. Thank you for the info!
Great! Sometimes we just notice that we're doing something that we haven't explained before. That's what happened when we shot the inside curve video. Glad to hear you found it helpful.
Saw a grozing pliers at Hobby Lobby & wondered how they're used. I see they work best in pairs. Also, wondered about the ball end of the glass scoring tool. I see you use it to ring the glass like a bell. Been picking up mirrors people discard, & when resizing them they haven't always parted evenly. I see I should help propagate my score marks by ringing the glass. Some of the mirrors are of ¼" thick plate glass. Looks like ringing it first may help achieve greater success. 👍
When I started out, I had two pairs of grozing pliers and a glass cutter and some other basic tools. I find you can get great control when cutting glass and using two 🙂 pairs of grozing pliers. I didn't get a pair of running pliers for several years after beginning with glass and I see many students who try to do everything with running pliers and so they never get to really find control with parting glass. 1/4" glass is "plate glass" and it's the only stuff that I ever got hurt with that resulted in a scar. So it's especially important to tap your scores with that type of glass, I notice that it's easy to get a deformation when parting glass using running pliers, they apply uneven pressure. You call it ringing the glass, but that might lead others to assume that you can tap anywhere. It's important to tap directly under the score all along the score line.
Thank you for the tips. I’m less inclined to take the risks with some curves and just grind them away instead. Not so good for the grinding bits though. I just need a little more patience and work with it trying to make the main break so quickly,
I don't blame you, sometimes the radical curves are difficult but there's very little risk on slight curves and as you do them, you'll get more experience till it's just no big deal!
When using Grozing pliers if you turn them over to the curved side, they have ridges on the inside of that curved head. This allows for gently grozing ( Scraping) the small area of uneven shards left that may need to be removed bit by tiny bit… also great for gently smoothing off outside curves, like a small corner that needs to be rounded off.
Thank you that was so very informative! I would have done a different cut, break, and cut again, which can more easily turn out bad. I am using your teachings on this and so much more you share! Thank you!!!🌈🌻🤗
Running pliers are designed to break apart straight lines and gentle curves, they are not good for sharp curves because the outer edges of the curve often break. What we're trying to demonstrate in the video is the best method to successfully nreak the glass.
Question, I've never done stained glass but I've watched a ton of TH-cam videos including many of yours. However, it seems many artist recommend you separate, cut, pieces so one cut won't run thru the glass and destroy another piece. It seems risky to cut the way you did. Like I said, I'm new and just curious. Thank you. Sub from WA
We line up the pieces so that we can get them apart, those on that sheet in the video were easy to separate. I like to cut glass in such a way that it's quick and successful. I do stained glass for a living, not as a hobby so I'm always looking for the most efficient way to accomplish each step.
you are a lifesaver!!!!! the grinder was taking FOREVER
We all learn the art of stained glass at different speeds. If you're using your grinder a lot you may fine the one we shot recently on adjusting a grinder bit useful. 🙂🙂🙂
Getting back to stained glass construction since late 70’s to do flat window panels (was doing Tiffany lamps before). Starting with a “sun catcher” hanging design to regain all my skills before tackling a very challenging large panel going into our entry door window. My grozing wasn’t going like I remember so I found your video and discovered I was holding the pliers upside down. Going to mark “UP” on the flat side so I can’t easily make that mistake again. You have many tutorials on panel construction steps that will be a God-send to me. Thanks for being there and your willingness to take the time producing these videos. Your generosity and helpfulness is greatly appreciated.
We teach many classes and find students easily get their grozing pliers upside down, in fact there was a you tube video teacher who was holding holding them upside down (he was new and he's gotten better over time) 🙂🙂🙂
You have a very considered way of talking to your audience. Your calmness gives me confidence. Thank you.
Thank you, I hope you find the rest of our videos worth watching. We try to teach everything about doing stained glass and then we discover something we've left out!!!
Super helpful... relief cuts make so much sense! Thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful! It was so funny to have a label on the back keeping the glass from coming apart.
Wow, so much detail, it's so beneficial, you are a great tutor. I've done mosaics for 10yrs and didn't know some of these techniques.
You are so welcome! We love doing stained glass (and mosaics)
Excellent demonstration. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful video. I'm in Southern Illinois, so coming to take a class isn't possible but I love the teaching videos. Thanks for posting them.
You are so welcome!
Thank you so much for your information. I have not done stained glass for several years and at my age I have forgotten quite a bit and you have helped me so much.
Not a lot of pieces had inside curves so I didn't get to show much. We some times forget about techniques that we haven't used for awhile!!
Hey guys one a new stained glass artist and I watched almost all of y'all videos and taught myself how to do this wonderful lost art. I've been doing it for about five months now and just love it. But if not for y'all I wouldn't of learned how to do it properly and I'm still learnining
Thank you, we love doing it and we love sharing it! 😃
I like the way you explain each video
That's very kind of you, but I did forget where I had scored that glass for a minute! 😮
Managed to break 2 pieces with cutting a deep curve.😩 Have 1 more chance to get it right. Now I know how to prevent it from happening again. Thank you for the info!
Thanks, it's a combination of knowledge and practice!
Thank you...this was an area I was struggling with. Your presentation was very well done!
Great! Sometimes we just notice that we're doing something that we haven't explained before. That's what happened when we shot the inside curve video. Glad to hear you found it helpful.
Another “old dog, new trick” moment for me. Thanks , Dave, great tip.
Thanks, we do it all the time!!! 😀😀😀
Curves are always a challenge for me. Thanks for sharing!
The secret is often to have a good amount of glass at the corners so the edges don't break off!
Thank you❤
You're welcome 😊 It's a good technique to know!
GREAT CUT! funny about the sticker.
Right?! Not planned but funny!
Great video
Thanks, I really think I need to do a new one that shows more. 🙂🙂🙂
Saw a grozing pliers at Hobby Lobby & wondered how they're used. I see they work best in pairs. Also, wondered about the ball end of the glass scoring tool. I see you use it to ring the glass like a bell.
Been picking up mirrors people discard, & when resizing them they haven't always parted evenly. I see I should help propagate my score marks by ringing the glass. Some of the mirrors are of ¼" thick plate glass. Looks like ringing it first may help achieve greater success. 👍
When I started out, I had two pairs of grozing pliers and a glass cutter and some other basic tools. I find you can get great control when cutting glass and using two 🙂 pairs of grozing pliers. I didn't get a pair of running pliers for several years after beginning with glass and I see many students who try to do everything with running pliers and so they never get to really find control with parting glass.
1/4" glass is "plate glass" and it's the only stuff that I ever got hurt with that resulted in a scar. So it's especially important to tap your scores with that type of glass, I notice that it's easy to get a deformation when parting glass using running pliers, they apply uneven pressure.
You call it ringing the glass, but that might lead others to assume that you can tap anywhere. It's important to tap directly under the score all along the score line.
I was getting worried at one point! Great tip , thanks.
You know.. I was too! I kept tapping away and the piece just wouldn't come off! 😅
Thank you for the tips. I’m less inclined to take the risks with some curves and just grind them away instead. Not so good for the grinding bits though. I just need a little more patience and work with it trying to make the main break so quickly,
I don't blame you, sometimes the radical curves are difficult but there's very little risk on slight curves and as you do them, you'll get more experience till it's just no big deal!
Great tips. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
It comes in handy, knowing how to cut a curve.
SOOOOO helpful. Thank you so much!!
Wasn't that funny that a sticky label was keeping the glass from coming lose!?
That was exquisite
I really thought it was funny since that label was holding the glass from coming apart😀
extremely helpful! Thank you so much! 🙋🏻♀️🇨🇦
Well thanks, it's such a simple procedure once you get some practice..I' glad you found it helpful
Question: are you squeezing pressure with your grozers, or pressure out, or pressure down? And do you use the flat side or rounded?
Watch his video # V208 for answering your questions.
Thanks for the assist!!!
When using Grozing pliers if you turn them over to the curved side, they have ridges on the inside of that curved head. This allows for gently grozing ( Scraping) the small area of uneven shards left that may need to be removed bit by tiny bit… also great for gently smoothing off outside curves, like a small corner that needs to be rounded off.
I once worked with a stained glass instructor who didn't have a grinder in her studio. She only used grozing pliers in her studio to smooth glass.
Thank you that was so very informative! I would have done a different cut, break, and cut again, which can more easily turn out bad. I am using your teachings on this and so much more you share! Thank you!!!🌈🌻🤗
It's kind of funny since I had a sticker that was holding the piece on. 😀😀😀
Thanks for that tip , some times i dont want to pull out the Ring saw .
Me neither, you have to fill it with water and get it going, and just nibbling away at the glass is so easy!
Why did you not use running pliers?
Running pliers are designed to break apart straight lines and gentle curves, they are not good for sharp curves because the outer edges of the curve often break. What we're trying to demonstrate in the video is the best method to successfully nreak the glass.
Question, I've never done stained glass but I've watched a ton of TH-cam videos including many of yours. However, it seems many artist recommend you separate, cut, pieces so one cut won't run thru the glass and destroy another piece. It seems risky to cut the way you did. Like I said, I'm new and just curious. Thank you. Sub from WA
We line up the pieces so that we can get them apart, those on that sheet in the video were easy to separate. I like to cut glass in such a way that it's quick and successful. I do stained glass for a living, not as a hobby so I'm always looking for the most efficient way to accomplish each step.
@@GommStainedGlass I knew there must be a reason. Thank you for explaining. Big fan of your videos 😊
Did not know you could cut a deep curve like that without grinding forever. What does the tapping do?
tapping "runs" the score which loosens the cut pieces. 😃
get a band saw lol
We've got a ring saw, but we need to teach students the technique.