After every new episode of The Penguin. I'm getting more and more convinced that Ozwald pulling out his uzi wasn't just a threat and he was definitely gonna attempt to kill Carmine right then and there. The fact he's willing to even attempt this in front of BATMAN while also being surrounded by dozens of cops just shows how truly unstable he can be when his ego is bruised.
This is really satisfying to watch after The Penguin episode 4, justice for Sofia, her mom Isabelle, Catwoman's mom Maria and her friend Anika, Summer Gleeson, and all other innocent woman who died on Carmine's hands. Not only he died on the street like a low life, also stripped away everything he has build for years.
@@Mythical.History lol I’ve already rewatched the first movie several times already as I consider it to be a masterpiece and the best Batman movie period. The Matt Reeves universe for Batman is just consistently fantastic all the way!
@@DAREDEVIL-MANWITHOUTFEAR all death feels short when you're watching it happen. Carmine's last thoughts were of the air leaving his body as he lied there, helpless and without hope of survival- just like his victims.
I love how Falcone talks big throughout his arrest. He's so sure he's going to get out of this, mocking Batman, Gordon, and Penguin... And then he just gets shot lol
Falcone never understood that his era was ending. All the great mob families of Gotham were always destined to disappeared with the arrival of people like Batman, Catwoman or The Riddler.
Penguin Episode 4 brought me back here. I think I can safely say Riddler was totally in the right to kill falcone here. Even if Riddler was obviously batshit crazy.
@@Cipher_Nine The flood was important in that it establishes how insane riddler really is and what he’s capable of. Part of Batman’s arc is that he need to be better than just vengeance. He need to be a beacon of hope because his mere presence brings out and inspires the crazies like riddler into vigilantism. And not the good kind. Yeah. You’d be a terrible writer if you’re asking me to “imagine” that.
@@cesaracosta5483 Riddler had valid points killing the corrupt city's official, which had a bit of a Watchmen vibe about morality and who is wrong or right. By him killing a shit tone of innocents, that philosophical aspect is ruined.
@@Cipher_Nine No. The flood is there to show what riddler is willing to do get what he wants. Which is validation. The guy is a complete narcissist with a fragile ego and will do anything he wants to prove how intellectually superior he is. Even if it means him killing people. He may have been right about the corruption in Gotham. But his methods make him no less of a killer that he is. To put it bluntly. HE IS INSANE. Otherwise he wouldn’t be if Matt reeves removed the flood and ended the movie with riddler being hailed as some kind of anti hero. Which he is NOT.
1:09 Brilliant pieces of acting/direction/editing here. Batman looks down on Falcone and gives the most Un-Batman looking look you can think of (slightly wide eyed, likely doesn't quite know what to do in the moment with Falcone going to die any second. One can almost imagine him as the young boy looking down on Falcone when Thomas Wayne operated on him in the manor, but then he sort of leans forward and his expression almost hardens). It's also a kind of comeuppance for Falcone. The impression I got of him was that he saw Bruce as 'one of his own,' or at least in his pocket. Sure, he knew Bruce disliked him, but he saw him as a young rich boy, certainly not someone capable of taking him on. The impression I got here was that he figured out in his dying moments that Bruce was in fact Batman, and he realised for the first time what that scared young boy he saw all those years ago was truly capable of. Anyway, it's a great moment. Matt Reeves is a fantastic director. Looking forward to Part 2.
I agree that this is good acting, I took it as batman realizing that he basically played right into riddler's hands and helped him execute one of his biggest targets by literally bringing him into the light and were riddler was posted up with a sniper rifle. I think batmans reaction is even him doubting whether his actions are truly that of a hero and, him struggling with being a vigilante. Even riddler acknowledges this in prison when he assumes that batman was his partner in crime and helped him on purpose.
@@Hexsmasher2099 That poor girl deserved better. I cannot believe her own family turned against her like that. As Fall Out Boy once said: "my childhood spat back the monster that you see." Also anyone notice the scratch marks Falcone had on his hands when he hugged Little Sofia?
@@wiinterflowers4277 It's funny and tragic because they MADE her like that. They made her into an absolute demon. Her family and the doctors in Arkham TORTURED her into becoming crazy and evil when she was just innocent and a sane morally good person at the start. Yeah she was the daughter of a mob boss but that’s not her fault as you can’t choose who your parents are and she kept away from her father’s business as best as she could. Even when her father offered her to take control of the family crime business, she tried to reject the offer because she knew it was wrong to be a criminal, but eventually she would take her father's place but NOT in the way that he expected her to because she makes her own crime family due to her own descent towards evil that was caused by him which wasn't her fault AT ALL. But because of one mistake that could make her own mob boss of a father look bad, She got sent to asylum for NO valid reason, have everyone try to gaslight her, and ended by becoming the very thing that the doctors were supposed to treat for her, an insane person. They tortured an innocent sane girl who was trying to treat and save other women with their own problems into a villainous insane woman who became a ruthless crazy killer crime lord due to all of the tormenting in Arkham. This is a tragic villain origin story because while tragedy explains actions and it does not defend them, it’s still 100% NOT her fault on how she ends up this way despite that because her father, her family members and these very doctors tortured her nonstop into becoming the monster she said she wasn’t and ended becoming even worst than what was claimed her for. Their very own Frankenstein’s monster of their own making. I still hope Sofia gets revenge against the doctors here in Arkham as they are NOT treating the patients but making them worst and even most insane than ever as the patients here aren’t getting the help they need. It just goes to show on how deep the corruption of Gotham truly is as almost every aspect as that place, even a place where their supposed to be treating, is filled with corrupt individuals who are making things worse as their almost all under Carmine’s payroll to torture and gaslight his own father JUST because she let something slip up once. Honestly, she’s very calm and restrictive immediately after getting out of Arkham in the first episode after going through this for 10 years as the ONLY reason she got out of Arkham is because the Riddler killed Carmine Falcone in the Batman movie. If he was still alive, she would still be in Arkham getting tortured nonstop for the rest of her life as she was never supposed to get out but ONLY got out because Riddler killed her day. This is one crazy villain origin story of self fulfilling prophecy of becoming the very thing she said she wasn’t and didn’t want to be at all, a crazy killer.
@@wiinterflowers4277 It’s a bit funny and immensely tragic because they MADE her like that. They made her into an absolute demon. Her family and the doctors in Arkham TORTURED her into becoming crazy and evil when she was just innocent and a sane morally good person at the start. Yeah she was the daughter of a mob boss but that’s not her fault as you can’t choose who your parents are and she kept away from her father’s business as best as she could. Even when her father offered her to take control of the family crime business, she tried to reject the offer because she knew it was wrong to be a criminal, but eventually she would take her father's place but NOT in the way that he expected her to because she makes her own crime family due to her own descent towards evil that was caused by him which wasn't her fault AT ALL. But because of one mistake that could make her own mob boss of a father look bad and mad him see her as a threat to him and his business that he even offered to her to take over, She got sent to asylum for NO valid reason, have everyone try to gaslight her, and ended by becoming the very thing that the doctors were supposed to treat for her, an insane person. They tortured an innocent sane girl who was trying to treat and save other women with their own problems into a villainous insane woman who became a ruthless crazy killer crime lord due to all of the tormenting in Arkham. This is a tragic villain origin story because while tragedy explains actions and it does not defend them, it’s still 100% NOT her fault on how she ends up this way despite that because her father, her family members and these very doctors tortured her nonstop into becoming the monster she said she wasn’t and ended becoming even worst than what was claimed her for. Their very own Frankenstein’s monster of their own making. I still hope Sofia gets revenge against the doctors here in Arkham as they are NOT treating the patients but making them worst and even most insane than ever as the patients here aren’t getting the help they need. It just goes to show on how deep the corruption of Gotham truly is as almost every aspect as that place, even a place where their supposed to be treating, is filled with corrupt individuals who are making things worse as their almost all under Carmine’s payroll to torture and gaslight his own father JUST because she let something slip up once. Honestly, she’s very calm and restrictive immediately after getting out of Arkham in the first episode after going through this for 10 years as the ONLY reason she got out of Arkham is because the Riddler killed Carmine Falcone in the Batman movie. If he was still alive, she would still be in Arkham getting tortured nonstop for the rest of her life as she was never supposed to get out but ONLY got out because Riddler killed her day. This is one crazy villain origin story of self fulfilling prophecy of becoming the very thing she said she wasn’t and didn’t want to be at all, a crazy killer.
I like how Falcone is wearing shades, stands for evil, corruption, Gordon is wearing clear spectacles, stands for justice, and Batman is in between them wearing eye makeup, basically Falcone's shades and Gordon's spectacles combined, indicating that he is a vigilante, a criminal, but still a hero at the same time, really tied the movie theme together that Batman thought he was doing good but the wrong method, vengeance = bad.
@@universalobsession9484anti intellectualism going mad crazy… the curtains aren’t always just blue bubby. it ain’t bad to look a lil deeper into things sometimes
The look on Falcone's face. He realized that was Bruce Wayne and rather than out him in public, he took the secret to his grave. Falcone may be a slime, but that should have indicated he didn't kill Thomas Wayne. If he did, he'd have no problem's saying "BRUCE IS BATMAN!!"
@@jarrodedson5441 Sofia literally got tortured and gaslighted for 10 years straight nonstop by her own family and the doctors who were supposed to be treating her. The only reason she got out is because carmine was killed by the riddler, if he was still alive, Sofia would still be there for the rest of her life. That’s crazy to think about as she’s a tragic villain of her own family’s making as they MADE her insane like that through torture. Absolutely crazy! The episode truly showed that Arkham Asylum is hell, just like the Riddler has said.
Now I see why Carmine is so much more of a villain after watching "The Penguin" so far and got what was coming. He makes Ralph Cifaretto seem like decent human being...
I know I won't be the only one to say that after episode 4 of The Penguin, Carmine Falcone deserved worse. Not death, but to experience the real Arkham Asylum treatment like a character I won't mention because of spoilers. This man literally creates the women who hate men. The Riddler was a Hero in hindsight but had misguided anger due to innocent civilians being hurt by his actions. But his main targets did much worse than he did. Especially Carmine Falcone! That man was powerful and evil.
@@nelsonblackshear5794 The point is that, like in real life, people do often conflicting things. Oz, a lying, self serving piece of shit also takes care of his mom and likes drinking slushies.
Riddler isn’t a hero at all, he’s a complete fraud who tries to disguise himself with noble intentions when he’s really a narcissistic man child who screwed over the very people he claimed he was trying to help with the flood
I love how everyone is rewatching this scene after the Penguin series and soaking in the satisfaction of watching Carmine get popped after everything he did to Sofia and her mother.
Ngl one of my fav bits is the part where batmans walking falcone past everyone in the club with Catwomans music playing while he’s laughing. That scene is just 👌🏻
Watching this after 1x4 of The Penguin re-contextualizes the dynamic between Oz, Carmine, and Sofia. I think that in this scene, Oz probably felt more responsible & remorseful for what Carmine did to Sofia. By pulling out his weapon, he probably realized his constant chase for power was meaningless and wanted to avenge her.
Bruce is looking at falcone at same angle as he saw him when he came to thwre house qhen he qas shot and his father operated on him on the house table.. Thats the beauty of this shot.
There's something really cool about seeing Bruce walk with the police as they go to find Riddler. It's nice to actually see batman standing next to regular cops and not just be a loner far away on rooftops
@@Philbert-s2c it’s funny because Sofia never wanted to be a criminal to begin with as she knew how bad that lifestyle was and tried her hardest to stay away from it even WHEN her father offered it to her, but it’s only when her father saw her as a threat, sent her away to arkham to be gaslighted and be tortured for 10 years nonstop (it was supposed to be for the rest of her life but she only got out because Carmine got killed so that’s pretty scary and tragic to realize) is when she fully became a demon and monstrous that she became the very thing that she said she wasn’t and what the doctors were supposed to be treating her for, a crazy insane killer who becomes the new crimelord.
Man I am SO excited for this universe’s future. Already its been better than any Batman iteration we’ve had (IN MY OPINION😅) It’s the Batman movie I’ve always wanted, and now we have gallery of villains who are truly getting their moment to shine. The Penguin show is fucking incredible
"Enjoy your night at Black gate, probably would be your last" The penguin would have killed Falcone just as he attempted to kill Salvatore in prison by bribing the guards in the series.
"When you kill a King, you don't stab him in the dark. You wait until the whole court gathers to witness his death." - Amsterdam Vallon (Gangs of New York).
Living in a club probably wasn’t great for his health. It explains the difference between him and Mark Strong’s performance. That’s my head canon at least.
I saw someone point this out before, and it really stuck with me. Whenever you see the GCPD (be it at the mayor's house, the precinct, or in the diner) they all travel in one big group. No wonder Gotham is such a mess, they all just huddle together and only go after the crimes they view as "important."
Seeing those episodes of the Penguin really makes up for the reasons for why Oz would be this bold to make a life threatening attempt on Carmine even if it mean’t risking his freedom to pulling a gun out in front of all those cops including Batman of all ppl who could restrain him at any moment, Penguin series really highlighted jus how much of a evil man Carmine really was perhaps more crueler than Salvatore Maroni hanging women was one thing but killing Sofia’s mother and framing his own daughter for his crimes to have her institutionalized to a nut house when he himself was in fact the REAL Hangman is jus downright evil and now it all makes sense for why Catwoman would go thru all this trouble jus to murder one man, The Riddler may have been a madman but if theres one thing we should all thank him for is bringing justice to the lives Don Falcone ruined
So.... why are the police so chill with Batman in this scene? Last thing they knew was Batman punching Gordon in the face and escaping arrest? The movie ia shot well but theres loads of little details that are just not right... kinda like TLJ. Really gorgeous movie but the story isnt air tight.
TLJ is bad at least it didn't give me PTSD to compare it to every single movie that comes out. You are not better than the people who hate the prequels and call lucas the devil.
Not to mention all the chaos he caused during the highway chase. Why didn't Gordan have him arrested after that or even before that when he and his goons were shooting at him and batman.
Honestly pretty upset we're not going to get to see more of John Turturro as Carmine Falcone. I liked his relaxed demeanor. Mark Strong is a great actor but he played the role differently.
@@mattboesch8907 Tom Wilkinson's version was definitely an influential mob boss, but also one who was in practice just a subordinate to the League of Shadows, based on the fearful look he has when Dr. Crane suggests that Ra's will be displeased with him for jeopardizing their partnership.
Rewatching this scene right after watching ep 4 of The Penguin feels like beating the hell out of Adam Smasher in Cyberpunk 2077 right after watching the ending of Edgerunners
After watching Episode 4 of The Penguin, I can say that this is the best thing that Riddler did the entire movie.
DESERVED THAT NASTY MF
My thoughts exactly.
bro i literally came here to watch that bc of this
"YOU GET WHAT YOU F***ING DESERVE"
@@guccigaming2997same here. Never finished this movie but after that stellar e4 I have to now.
After every new episode of The Penguin. I'm getting more and more convinced that Ozwald pulling out his uzi wasn't just a threat and he was definitely gonna attempt to kill Carmine right then and there. The fact he's willing to even attempt this in front of BATMAN while also being surrounded by dozens of cops just shows how truly unstable he can be when his ego is bruised.
Be betrays everyone who insult him. The fact that he didnt killed Victor its just because he didnt disrespect penguin like all the other did.
“FUCK YA MOTHER, YA DIRTY RAT”
Gets me every time
😂riddler saved him
The penguin series makes this scene even better
@@Matthew-oq1hx Lol No he didn’t “saved” him AT ALL here. Riddler took him out there just before Penguin did.
This movie is shot so well. Watching these clips over and over makes me even more hyped for The Batman 2
Its probably the best looking live action superhero film
Bro this is the most garbage batman movie ever. I’d rather watch Arnold as mr freeze then this crap
@@PJGenovese251 LMFAO
@@mr.punisher5100 i’d rather watch adam west batman then this crap
@@PJGenovese251 LMFAO
*Notice how they carried over* the Penguin acting impulsively over an insult? I love that little detail being expanded on in the series
It's incredible how consistent his character is between the movie + tv series.
@@i0kiVids Even 2 years later the writing of this movie is still perfection.
This is really satisfying to watch after The Penguin episode 4, justice for Sofia, her mom Isabelle, Catwoman's mom Maria and her friend Anika, Summer Gleeson, and all other innocent woman who died on Carmine's hands. Not only he died on the street like a low life, also stripped away everything he has build for years.
Penguin show made the riddler even better
@@Pointman11111 Exactly! The Matt Reeves Batman Universe is just consisently 10/10 all the time!
@@Gadget-Walkmen Penguin series made me more hyped up for Batman 2 and had me thinking about rewatching the first film
@@Mythical.History lol I’ve already rewatched the first movie several times already as I consider it to be a masterpiece and the best Batman movie period. The Matt Reeves universe for Batman is just consistently fantastic all the way!
They're not real people. Non of this is real
I love how we all collectively came here after watching Penguin episode 4 just to remind ourselves that Carmine got exactly what was coming to him
I think he got out easy. He should’ve suffered more especially for what he put Sofia through but in the end he got a swift death
@@DAREDEVIL-MANWITHOUTFEAR he wouldn't have seen the inside of s cell
@@DAREDEVIL-MANWITHOUTFEAR all death feels short when you're watching it happen. Carmine's last thoughts were of the air leaving his body as he lied there, helpless and without hope of survival- just like his victims.
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Can't wait for The Penguin series
Oh YES!!!! I’m So Excited 😁
Ditto
Today!!!!!!!!
He didn’t shoot the father but he sure did the son😂
Penguin goes hard
I love how Falcone talks big throughout his arrest. He's so sure he's going to get out of this, mocking Batman, Gordon, and Penguin...
And then he just gets shot lol
😂😂😂he probably would have got out anyways
Even his daughter, Sofia, refused to use his last name anymore
Well he forgot at the end of the day he was just a human
Falcone never understood that his era was ending. All the great mob families of Gotham were always destined to disappeared with the arrival of people like Batman, Catwoman or The Riddler.
@Chadorni I dont even think he was aware Riddler even existed let alone knowing he might have been after him.
Lmao penguin pulled out a uzi in front of the whole PD 😭😭😭
Its the funniest part and not enough ppl comments about it
When you see the tv show, you know why.
@@rohitandleynever ill talk the penguin
Bro def just backed the heat out in front of every authoritative figure in the city 😂
And probably this type of gun probably illegal to have on your hands right
Penguin Episode 4 brought me back here. I think I can safely say Riddler was totally in the right to kill falcone here. Even if Riddler was obviously batshit crazy.
No kidding
Imagine if The Batman didn't get that cartoon villain ending city flood. Would've made The Riddler a better character
@@Cipher_Nine The flood was important in that it establishes how insane riddler really is and what he’s capable of. Part of Batman’s arc is that he need to be better than just vengeance. He need to be a beacon of hope because his mere presence brings out and inspires the crazies like riddler into vigilantism. And not the good kind.
Yeah. You’d be a terrible writer if you’re asking me to “imagine” that.
@@cesaracosta5483 Riddler had valid points killing the corrupt city's official, which had a bit of a Watchmen vibe about morality and who is wrong or right. By him killing a shit tone of innocents, that philosophical aspect is ruined.
@@Cipher_Nine No. The flood is there to show what riddler is willing to do get what he wants. Which is validation. The guy is a complete narcissist with a fragile ego and will do anything he wants to prove how intellectually superior he is. Even if it means him killing people. He may have been right about the corruption in Gotham. But his methods make him no less of a killer that he is. To put it bluntly. HE IS INSANE. Otherwise he wouldn’t be if Matt reeves removed the flood and ended the movie with riddler being hailed as some kind of anti hero. Which he is NOT.
The Fall of The Roman empire.
The actor of Falcone did a Great job !!! The glasses make him look beyond Badass !!!!
To think John Turturro was also in a f3w Adam Sandl3r flicks
@@DanielCastro-x1l He is also in the Michael Bay Transformers films
@@Hexsmasher2099 /h3's on3 good actor. On3 of th3 b3st charact3r actors sinc3 Karl Mald3n
@@DanielCastro-x1l Just curious, is your 'e' key missing?
@@_k.a_ Brok3n
I love that Penguin tries to shoot Carmine Falcone is foreshadowing for Penguin's low patient and shoots his son in the show.
Oh that's fucking gold lol
1:09 Brilliant pieces of acting/direction/editing here. Batman looks down on Falcone and gives the most Un-Batman looking look you can think of (slightly wide eyed, likely doesn't quite know what to do in the moment with Falcone going to die any second. One can almost imagine him as the young boy looking down on Falcone when Thomas Wayne operated on him in the manor, but then he sort of leans forward and his expression almost hardens).
It's also a kind of comeuppance for Falcone. The impression I got of him was that he saw Bruce as 'one of his own,' or at least in his pocket. Sure, he knew Bruce disliked him, but he saw him as a young rich boy, certainly not someone capable of taking him on. The impression I got here was that he figured out in his dying moments that Bruce was in fact Batman, and he realised for the first time what that scared young boy he saw all those years ago was truly capable of.
Anyway, it's a great moment. Matt Reeves is a fantastic director. Looking forward to Part 2.
I agree that this is good acting, I took it as batman realizing that he basically played right into riddler's hands and helped him execute one of his biggest targets by literally bringing him into the light and were riddler was posted up with a sniper rifle. I think batmans reaction is even him doubting whether his actions are truly that of a hero and, him struggling with being a vigilante. Even riddler acknowledges this in prison when he assumes that batman was his partner in crime and helped him on purpose.
Exactly how I saw that moment
After watching 4 episodes of penguin, it made me appreciate this movie even more.
Some people won’t understand how great this move is.
This hits different after watching ep 4 of The Penguin
Oh hells yeah. I had anxiety watching that episode, especially when I remembered Selina's story.
Facts, Sofia definitely deserved better than what Carmine did to her
@@Hexsmasher2099 That poor girl deserved better. I cannot believe her own family turned against her like that. As Fall Out Boy once said: "my childhood spat back the monster that you see." Also anyone notice the scratch marks Falcone had on his hands when he hugged Little Sofia?
@@wiinterflowers4277 It's funny and tragic because they MADE her like that. They made her into an absolute demon. Her family and the doctors in Arkham TORTURED her into becoming crazy and evil when she was just innocent and a sane morally good person at the start. Yeah she was the daughter of a mob boss but that’s not her fault as you can’t choose who your parents are and she kept away from her father’s business as best as she could. Even when her father offered her to take control of the family crime business, she tried to reject the offer because she knew it was wrong to be a criminal, but eventually she would take her father's place but NOT in the way that he expected her to because she makes her own crime family due to her own descent towards evil that was caused by him which wasn't her fault AT ALL.
But because of one mistake that could make her own mob boss of a father look bad, She got sent to asylum for NO valid reason, have everyone try to gaslight her, and ended by becoming the very thing that the doctors were supposed to treat for her, an insane person.
They tortured an innocent sane girl who was trying to treat and save other women with their own problems into a villainous insane woman who became a ruthless crazy killer crime lord due to all of the tormenting in Arkham.
This is a tragic villain origin story because while tragedy explains actions and it does not defend them, it’s still 100% NOT her fault on how she ends up this way despite that because her father, her family members and these very doctors tortured her nonstop into becoming the monster she said she wasn’t and ended becoming even worst than what was claimed her for.
Their very own Frankenstein’s monster of their own making.
I still hope Sofia gets revenge against the doctors here in Arkham as they are NOT treating the patients but making them worst and even most insane than ever as the patients here aren’t getting the help they need.
It just goes to show on how deep the corruption of Gotham truly is as almost every aspect as that place, even a place where their supposed to be treating, is filled with corrupt individuals who are making things worse as their almost all under Carmine’s payroll to torture and gaslight his own father JUST because she let something slip up once.
Honestly, she’s very calm and restrictive immediately after getting out of Arkham in the first episode after going through this for 10 years as the ONLY reason she got out of Arkham is because the Riddler killed Carmine Falcone in the Batman movie. If he was still alive, she would still be in Arkham getting tortured nonstop for the rest of her life as she was never supposed to get out but ONLY got out because Riddler killed her day.
This is one crazy villain origin story of self fulfilling prophecy of becoming the very thing she said she wasn’t and didn’t want to be at all, a crazy killer.
@@wiinterflowers4277 It’s a bit funny and immensely tragic because they MADE her like that. They made her into an absolute demon. Her family and the doctors in Arkham TORTURED her into becoming crazy and evil when she was just innocent and a sane morally good person at the start. Yeah she was the daughter of a mob boss but that’s not her fault as you can’t choose who your parents are and she kept away from her father’s business as best as she could. Even when her father offered her to take control of the family crime business, she tried to reject the offer because she knew it was wrong to be a criminal, but eventually she would take her father's place but NOT in the way that he expected her to because she makes her own crime family due to her own descent towards evil that was caused by him which wasn't her fault AT ALL.
But because of one mistake that could make her own mob boss of a father look bad and mad him see her as a threat to him and his business that he even offered to her to take over, She got sent to asylum for NO valid reason, have everyone try to gaslight her, and ended by becoming the very thing that the doctors were supposed to treat for her, an insane person.
They tortured an innocent sane girl who was trying to treat and save other women with their own problems into a villainous insane woman who became a ruthless crazy killer crime lord due to all of the tormenting in Arkham.
This is a tragic villain origin story because while tragedy explains actions and it does not defend them, it’s still 100% NOT her fault on how she ends up this way despite that because her father, her family members and these very doctors tortured her nonstop into becoming the monster she said she wasn’t and ended becoming even worst than what was claimed her for.
Their very own Frankenstein’s monster of their own making.
I still hope Sofia gets revenge against the doctors here in Arkham as they are NOT treating the patients but making them worst and even most insane than ever as the patients here aren’t getting the help they need.
It just goes to show on how deep the corruption of Gotham truly is as almost every aspect as that place, even a place where their supposed to be treating, is filled with corrupt individuals who are making things worse as their almost all under Carmine’s payroll to torture and gaslight his own father JUST because she let something slip up once.
Honestly, she’s very calm and restrictive immediately after getting out of Arkham in the first episode after going through this for 10 years as the ONLY reason she got out of Arkham is because the Riddler killed Carmine Falcone in the Batman movie. If he was still alive, she would still be in Arkham getting tortured nonstop for the rest of her life as she was never supposed to get out but ONLY got out because Riddler killed her day.
This is one crazy villain origin story of self fulfilling prophecy of becoming the very thing she said she wasn’t and didn’t want to be at all, a crazy killer.
I like how when Batman grapples into the building, its not a clean landing. Shows he's still in his very early stages
This scene hits different now with The Penguin show.
"Oh... Fu-"
THE PENGUIN
and even more different now after ep 4
0:44 Considering that Oz later pays a guard to try to shank Salvatore Maroni in his cell, it's safe to say he's NOT bluffing.
This feels 1000% better after episode 4 of the penguin
Just noticed he realized it was Bruce because last time he was dying he looked up at the same eyes
I like how Falcone is wearing shades, stands for evil, corruption, Gordon is wearing clear spectacles, stands for justice, and Batman is in between them wearing eye makeup, basically Falcone's shades and Gordon's spectacles combined, indicating that he is a vigilante, a criminal, but still a hero at the same time, really tied the movie theme together that Batman thought he was doing good but the wrong method, vengeance = bad.
.......this a space jam level reach
lol your reaching bro they’re just glasses homeboy
@@universalobsession9484Would you go as far to say this is a cringe comment also. I would
nice way of looking at it! very astute analysis!
@@universalobsession9484anti intellectualism going mad crazy… the curtains aren’t always just blue bubby. it ain’t bad to look a lil deeper into things sometimes
The look on Falcone's face. He realized that was Bruce Wayne and rather than out him in public, he took the secret to his grave. Falcone may be a slime, but that should have indicated he didn't kill Thomas Wayne. If he did, he'd have no problem's saying "BRUCE IS BATMAN!!"
When Batman was escorting him out, he absolutely knew.
Bollockings
Why do you think Falcone knew Bruce was Batman? Havent rewatched in a while
@@ford-wp1yq "I remember your face."
You think he's gonna scream "Bruce Wayne is Batman" while dying?
Thanks you Riddler
_Bring him into the light and you'll find where I'm at_
Well. The pictures he took of Annika with the mayor revealed Riddler’s location (In front of the Lounge)
“I’ll spray paint your ass” lmfaooooo
Rewatching after Penguin Ep 4 as some form of therapy
That episode was haunting
@@jarrodedson5441 Sofia literally got tortured and gaslighted for 10 years straight nonstop by her own family and the doctors who were supposed to be treating her. The only reason she got out is because carmine was killed by the riddler, if he was still alive, Sofia would still be there for the rest of her life. That’s crazy to think about as she’s a tragic villain of her own family’s making as they MADE her insane like that through torture. Absolutely crazy!
The episode truly showed that Arkham Asylum is hell, just like the Riddler has said.
So much more satisfying after penguin episode 4
[1:14] after watching episode 4 of The Penguin : YESSSSSS WE WON 🥳💛
Bro deserved it 😂
@@Asad_Nayyer He had it coming. I bet you would've done the same!
Yeah Riddler did Gotham a favor
*pissing at his grave
Now I see why Carmine is so much more of a villain after watching "The Penguin" so far and got what was coming. He makes Ralph Cifaretto seem like decent human being...
The shot when it showed Catwoman taking a look at Falcone's death stare🔥
After watching the Penguin episode 1-4
The Batman 2021 movie was a masterpiece.
The penguin series added more depth to its storyline
Batman taking down falcone was the step towards cleaning up the department. Sadly, it also gave Ridsler a clear shot.
He stuck out his gyatt for the Ridsler
@@wonderstew💀
And it opened the door for Penguin to rule Gotham.
After The Penguin Episode 4, I am SO glad he ate that bullet!
Penguin always playing both sides lmao
@@demarionwhy3306 only one can be at the top!
I know I won't be the only one to say that after episode 4 of The Penguin, Carmine Falcone deserved worse. Not death, but to experience the real Arkham Asylum treatment like a character I won't mention because of spoilers. This man literally creates the women who hate men. The Riddler was a Hero in hindsight but had misguided anger due to innocent civilians being hurt by his actions. But his main targets did much worse than he did. Especially Carmine Falcone! That man was powerful and evil.
Riddler drowned half the city, he isn't even close to a hero. The flashbacks in episode 3 are meant to reflect that
@@Snougaloogie Okay fine an anti-hero. The point is he targeted dirty corrupt people.
@@nelsonblackshear5794Yeah but he ended up screwing over the poor neighborhoods while keeping the rich ones intact
@@nelsonblackshear5794 The point is that, like in real life, people do often conflicting things. Oz, a lying, self serving piece of shit also takes care of his mom and likes drinking slushies.
Riddler isn’t a hero at all, he’s a complete fraud who tries to disguise himself with noble intentions when he’s really a narcissistic man child who screwed over the very people he claimed he was trying to help with the flood
“I’ll spray paint your ass” IS CRAZY OZ WTH
Bro that reveal when they walk out & everyone’s waiting, then Gordon’s line “I guess we don’t all work for you”…CHILLS!!
I love how everyone is rewatching this scene after the Penguin series and soaking in the satisfaction of watching Carmine get popped after everything he did to Sofia and her mother.
After the 7th episode of penguin. Just wow. Matt. You're crazy
After watching episode 4 of the Penguin, I realized that Carmine Falcone was the real main villain of The Batman and not the Riddler.
The Riddler did everyone a solid with this one kill right here 💀
Ngl one of my fav bits is the part where batmans walking falcone past everyone in the club with Catwomans music playing while he’s laughing. That scene is just 👌🏻
After episode 4 of the Penguin… all I can say is Carmine died way too fast.
0:35 that's rich coming from Oz.
Nah, he probably thinks that snitching is fine so long as it's not to law enforcement.
He snitches to law enforcement at the end of The Penguin too@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 Seeing as he called the cops on Sofia at the end I dont think so.
0:05 is just straight outta comics.. damn gorgeous 🙌🏻
Watching this after 1x4 of The Penguin re-contextualizes the dynamic between Oz, Carmine, and Sofia. I think that in this scene, Oz probably felt more responsible & remorseful for what Carmine did to Sofia. By pulling out his weapon, he probably realized his constant chase for power was meaningless and wanted to avenge her.
I'm watching the Penguin series, and I gotta say, Oz might be scarier than Carmine.
As he should be
Bruce is looking at falcone at same angle as he saw him when he came to thwre house qhen he qas shot and his father operated on him on the house table..
Thats the beauty of this shot.
This is actually pretty dignified compared to how Falconie died in the Telltale games.
Not really.
@@HOTD108_ How so?
No wonder Sofia hasn’t gone after the Riddler
okay guys you are here bc you watched the 4 Episode of Pinguin, and what we can say. It seems they are adapt a great Batman universe. I LOVE IT
There's something really cool about seeing Bruce walk with the police as they go to find Riddler. It's nice to actually see batman standing next to regular cops and not just be a loner far away on rooftops
Goes to show just how much bigger a threat riddler was after watching penguin so far
The King is dead. All hail the Queen...
@@Philbert-s2c it’s funny because Sofia never wanted to be a criminal to begin with as she knew how bad that lifestyle was and tried her hardest to stay away from it even WHEN her father offered it to her, but it’s only when her father saw her as a threat, sent her away to arkham to be gaslighted and be tortured for 10 years nonstop (it was supposed to be for the rest of her life but she only got out because Carmine got killed so that’s pretty scary and tragic to realize) is when she fully became a demon and monstrous that she became the very thing that she said she wasn’t and what the doctors were supposed to be treating her for, a crazy insane killer who becomes the new crimelord.
so invested the giant bright orange screen scared me
2:00-2:01. The grunt of pain was a good idea, a subtle indicator that Batman needs to work on his landings.
After what we've seen in the Penguin, I'm inclined to say Edward had the right idea about Falcone.
Who’s here after episode 4 of the penguin??
Man I am SO excited for this universe’s future. Already its been better than any Batman iteration we’ve had (IN MY OPINION😅) It’s the Batman movie I’ve always wanted, and now we have gallery of villains who are truly getting their moment to shine. The Penguin show is fucking incredible
"Enjoy your night at Black gate, probably would be your last"
The penguin would have killed Falcone just as he attempted to kill Salvatore in prison by bribing the guards in the series.
"When you kill a King, you don't stab him in the dark. You wait until the whole court gathers to witness his death."
- Amsterdam Vallon (Gangs of New York).
I think Falcone recognized Bruce as he died
Yes
Totally deserved
After ep 4 of The Penguin, in the words of Arthur Fleck “You get what you fucking deserve”.
I finished watching Episode 4 of The Penguin. Carmine deserved worse after what he did to his own flesh and blood.
😂😂😂 When Falcone called Penguin a gmp, I was the only one in a sold-out theater laughing. The whole sequence made me laugh.
Bruh pulled out a uzi in front of the whole PD 😭😭
Thomas Matthew Crooks anyone? 😂
After watching The Penguin series, Oz calling Carmine a rat is really the pot calling the kettle black.😂😂😂😂
Let's hope his son doesn't get shot!
you're not gonna believe this...
😭😭😭
it might seem crazy what im about to say
0:09 this put a Big smile on my face, & put out falcones,
Same brother, no idea why more people don't talk about this part. Stuck out to me both times I watched this in theatres
That part put a big smile on my face as well when I watched the movie, and when the Riddler shot Carmine. That made me just laugh. Karma.
@@FeloniousGru20104 haha🤣🤣🤣
Amazing Video Sir
After episode 4 of the Penguin, it's safe to say that Carmine Falcone deserves to burn in Hell.
Living in a club probably wasn’t great for his health. It explains the difference between him and Mark Strong’s performance. That’s my head canon at least.
I saw someone point this out before, and it really stuck with me. Whenever you see the GCPD (be it at the mayor's house, the precinct, or in the diner) they all travel in one big group. No wonder Gotham is such a mess, they all just huddle together and only go after the crimes they view as "important."
Put one daughter in Arkham and tried killing the other
And killed both of their mothers. He clearly had some warped hatred for women.
Seeing those episodes of the Penguin really makes up for the reasons for why Oz would be this bold to make a life threatening attempt on Carmine even if it mean’t risking his freedom to pulling a gun out in front of all those cops including Batman of all ppl who could restrain him at any moment,
Penguin series really highlighted jus how much of a evil man Carmine really was perhaps more crueler than Salvatore Maroni hanging women was one thing but killing Sofia’s mother and framing his own daughter for his crimes to have her institutionalized to a nut house when he himself was in fact the REAL Hangman is jus downright evil and now it all makes sense for why Catwoman would go thru all this trouble jus to murder one man, The Riddler may have been a madman but if theres one thing we should all thank him for is bringing justice to the lives Don Falcone ruined
1:42 the music
Straight out of the Arkham games had me geeked in the theaters
What is its name ?
Felt so much like the Arkham games.
So.... why are the police so chill with Batman in this scene? Last thing they knew was Batman punching Gordon in the face and escaping arrest?
The movie ia shot well but theres loads of little details that are just not right... kinda like TLJ. Really gorgeous movie but the story isnt air tight.
Cause they didn’t trust him and now they found out blue many corrupt cops they had and he did help get falcone out of his hiding place
I don’t think they trust Batman here YET but they Trust Gordon and they know that the rest of the Dept are crooked so they back Gordon to the end.
TLJ is bad at least it didn't give me PTSD to compare it to every single movie that comes out.
You are not better than the people who hate the prequels and call lucas the devil.
There's something powerful about seeing Batman walking towards the gunfire with the (non corrupt) police following.
after watching the penguin, carmine got everything coming to his ass😂
Ok Oz, you have no right to shit on Falcone. Because of your mouth, Sofia was sent to Arkham
The lighting and color scheme in this movie is just perfect... Makes me want to live in Gotham lmao. Greig Fraser is amazing!!!
Oz and his hair trigger
These frames are absolutely gorgeous ✨
Riddler was a hero
How did oz walk free strsght after this he was about to shoot the man
Not to mention all the chaos he caused during the highway chase. Why didn't Gordan have him arrested after that or even before that when he and his goons were shooting at him and batman.
Honestly pretty upset we're not going to get to see more of John Turturro as Carmine Falcone. I liked his relaxed demeanor. Mark Strong is a great actor but he played the role differently.
Here after Penguin ep 4, good riddance Carmine
I really hope that Sofia meets Ed in Arkham.
And attacks him for taking revenge away from her.
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Is Selina Kyle wearing the Blade Runner 2049 coat?
Don Falcone from Gotham was an angel compared to this
what about Carmine from Batman Begins?
@@mattboesch8907 Tom Wilkinson's version was definitely an influential mob boss, but also one who was in practice just a subordinate to the League of Shadows, based on the fearful look he has when Dr. Crane suggests that Ra's will be displeased with him for jeopardizing their partnership.
Penguin should have been locked up right there for attempted murder but then there’d be no show.
‘I’ll spray paint your ass’ Colin Farrell is hilarious with his delivery 😂
Saw episode 4. Falcone deserved a worse ending…
One man alone betrayed by the country he loves
STOP SAYING THAT
Rewatching this scene right after watching ep 4 of The Penguin feels like beating the hell out of Adam Smasher in Cyberpunk 2077 right after watching the ending of Edgerunners
cant even see the movie so dark even with full brightness ...
need to develop eyeballs
I dont know but this has to be the funniest scene of the movie, penguin spray painting his ass😂
Riddler is a hero ❤
He killed more then 100 people
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