Thanks again for showing this. I like how you can make do with the components you have and explain how it works. I know sometimes lower velocity buck patterns better but out of curiosity if you one day get a crono it would be neat to see how fast you could get something like 8 pellet 0000 out of 10g
I was wondering if you water / weather proof any of your hand loads? I know that dribbling candle wax on top of the shot before crimping helps. What all do you do to protect your loads? Have you ever submerged a load for testing? What are some of your best black powder / pyrodex loads? I think all that might make a good video. Keep up the good work bro.
The whole over powder card for some wads is actually great advice for new reloaders.. I had to figure this issue out on my own. One thing I would add is if the Gas seal on the wad has a deep concave/pocket/lip I will either trim that lip off the gas seal or fill it with fiber to avoid leaving a void space. important to avoid momentary free expansion of gas taking up empty space before pushing on the payload. In my mind (and I could be wrong) this could lead to a slight over pressure situation. But mainly it's the difference between a good crimp and or a couple more pellets on the top end.
That is a very interesting point. In my mind, the extra expansion room would lower pressures as it has more time to expand. This gave me more to think about when understanding pressure. Nice thinking point friend!👍😁
@@vdog4799 I'm actually not sure but I imagine that if the expanding gas suddenly hits a wall it would cause a spike in pressure as it has to suddenly start pushing mass instead of pushing that same mass from the start of expansion .. I could be wrong and I am planning to research this topic when I have a little time.
@@Oldmanwithagoldpan Me too. Im not quite sure how to google that but overcoming this question will get me farther toward knowing what Im doing. Good stuff man👍 Thanks for mentioning that for sure!😁👍
The precision buffer is my favorite, it just patterns better,never had a problem with it tearing up hulls As a matter of fact i bought 10 lbs of it. Let me know if ya want some!!!
Hey Tyler.Your face your buisness.Dont want to be a pain in the butt but be careful with those shoulder bruises .That ones pretty bad.2 years ago I spent 3 weeks in the hospital with a clot in that same place.Screaming in pain in the hospital I was for 2 nights even given oxy by the hospital and it didnt help much at all.Had to take Warfarin blood thinners for 6 months after that.If that clot had moved to my heart or lungs I could have died.Nice videos though man.Be careful out there.
Back then I didn’t know any better and was cramming the stock into my arm as hard as I could and death gripping the gun. I was letting my arm eat all of the recoil with no give. Now I just rest the stock against my arm with little pressure and I pull forward slightly with my supporting hand to mitigate recoil into my arm and just let the gun do what it’s gonna do. I ride the recoil. No more bruises and no pain unless I’m shooting single shots with magnum loads.
Hey Tyler , R Enjoying your videos ! You are giving out a lot of great info ! One question, Where d You get those springs at for the load all 2 at ? Take Care and Be Safe
I would love to talk to ya personally about making some high recoil shells, as well as mixed buckshot loads from #1-4 Buck in 3" 12 Gauge for home defense with reduced risk of penetration. I only buy 12 Gauge shotguns, but am looking for a 10G. Even with my Remington TAC14 Lupara Grip, I love shooting Magnum buck and slugs from it aimed, I bought a XS Big Dot sight barrel for mine. It can be spicy on the wrists. That is for sure. But is quite tolerable, I trained for many years in Bujinkan Ninjutsu that teaches joint strength in workouts so that may have helped me. I love them all day and night in my Pump SXP and Saiga Clone. In my H&R breakaction light weight your boxing with it and its a fun ride all day and night as well. I get some really nice patterns out of its milled full choke with buck of smaller diameter than 00.
Would 28grain Hodgdon Longshot with 30 grams of 2.4mm shot be a good load for gymnastics pigeons? Would 30 grain Hodgdon with 30 grams of 2.4 mm also work against !?
That’s too light of a load I would think. Pressure might be way to low to reliably function. That would be 7.5 shot. Shot size doesn’t matter, 1 ounce of lead is 1 ounce of lead. You would need a different powder as that’s basically a 1 1/16 ounce load which is very light for 12 gauge. Longshot will work but I’d start at 34 grains.
@@theshotgunscientists Thank you for the information! In Germany there is unfortunately not enough data on Hodgdon powders when it comes to shot. I think your films are great and very helpful for my reloading
Awesome stuff bud🤙🏻 im very new to reloading I’m struggling to find data for the stuff I have mainly the wads and I just want to make a big kicking load like you have here I have 3inch cheddite hulls ready primed ,longshot powder, gualandi wad12vo23 and some 000buck so if you have any advice would be greatly appreciated 🤙🏻
For an 8 pellet 000 buck load I’d use 32 grains of longshot if you want recoil. Take your wad and cut off the shot cup and about half the piston section, if I’m thinking of the right wad. The 12v023 is the light target wad isn’t? Tall piston section with short shot cup? I’d recommend getting claybuster cb1138-12 wads from ballistic products, and the gualandi green wad. Maybe some 12 gauge .70 nitro cards to go over your powder for the claybuster wads if you want to use them. 000 buck will stack by 2’s in that wad if you have .35 caliber instead of .36. Or you could grab a bag of x12x gas seals and use 1/2” fiber cushion wads.
@@theshotgunscientists yes it’s a light target load bud I do have some ready sealed 13mm fibre wads the guy from the shop said I could sit them straight on the powder would they do the job? and I can stack them but 3s without the plastic wads so if I do cheddite hulls primed with 13mm fibre wad how much long shot and pellets would you go for thanks for your help greatly appreciated 🤙🏻
@@onlygunz-OG is it a fiber ward or a hard nitro card? Fiber wads shouldn’t be placed directly over the powder, pressures wouldn’t be able to build right and the round may not go off like it should.
Wade rush, countless hours in forums online, searching for the stoutest loads possible, and buck and slug reloaders group on Facebook. Cheddite hulls are extremely distinct, I just know them when I pick up a hull.
@@theshotgunscientists I guess the longer I hang around the more Ill pick up. I did learn from Wade that the federal promo hulls were rio. That made sense because the primer pockets were too big. My very first shot hull to reload and it wouldnt prime right. I didnt know why or anything. . It was a reall bummer getting started I knew so little. Really cool of you to over basics in your vids. Lots of new guys out there need to know that stuff👍Me included
@@vdog4799 I've been reloading shot shells for 20+ years and have learned bushels of new tricks and several new loads from Tyler and Wade.. I actually found Tyler through his comments on one of Wade's videos and was blown away by his knowledge and ability to recite info off the top of his head. I Hope to keep seeing you around here.
I been pretty busy last couple of days and missed your blackpowder video, I see it isn't up anymore. Did it get pulled down and is it on any of your other platforms?
I had a few people tell me it may not be a good idea to post that on TH-cam so I deleted it. It was just a short video talking about how it’s made and me showing the burn rate of mine. I’ll be doing a full longer video with details on how I made mine soon on rumble.
I live in a socialist dumpster fire with silly magazine restrictions. I'm interested in exploring reduced length 12 gauge buckshot and target loads. 2" or so, probably using the waa12r or something.
8 mo later *:* I've tried some shortys - They double feed in my semi auto and in my pump the ejection is tempramental. But 21 gr of #4 buckshot is a tightly stacked 1 oz load over a powder charge that's generally used for 2-3/4 1 oz load. Use a BP gas seal or X12X under a cork or felt cushion.
@@bertkilborne6464 I'm confident that a 1 3/4 shell will be problematic in any auto loader. But a 2" overall length might be long enough to prevent the shell from standing up on the carrier
Good job there Kentucky boy, i left there 32 years ago and went to sea. I still miss that beautiful misty morning air in the mountains.
Thanks man
Your "Zombie" buckshot loads are awesome looking. Thank you so much for sharing them with us.
No problem. I’ve been wanting to redo this video now that I’m comfortable on camera lol.
Thanks again for showing this. I like how you can make do with the components you have and explain how it works. I know sometimes lower velocity buck patterns better but out of curiosity if you one day get a crono it would be neat to see how fast you could get something like 8 pellet 0000 out of 10g
We can do that.
I was wondering if you water / weather proof any of your hand loads? I know that dribbling candle wax on top of the shot before crimping helps. What all do you do to protect your loads? Have you ever submerged a load for testing? What are some of your best black powder / pyrodex loads? I think all that might make a good video. Keep up the good work bro.
Yeah I seal them with clear mail polish if they need it. Paul Harrell has a really good video about submerged Shotshells.
The whole over powder card for some wads is actually great advice for new reloaders.. I had to figure this issue out on my own. One thing I would add is if the Gas seal on the wad has a deep concave/pocket/lip I will either trim that lip off the gas seal or fill it with fiber to avoid leaving a void space. important to avoid momentary free expansion of gas taking up empty space before pushing on the payload. In my mind (and I could be wrong) this could lead to a slight over pressure situation. But mainly it's the difference between a good crimp and or a couple more pellets on the top end.
Lately I’ve been putting thin nitro cards over the powder if I use loose fitting wads.
@@theshotgunscientists same here.. works great
That is a very interesting point. In my mind, the extra expansion room would lower pressures as it has more time to expand. This gave me more to think about when understanding pressure. Nice thinking point friend!👍😁
@@vdog4799 I'm actually not sure but I imagine that if the expanding gas suddenly hits a wall it would cause a spike in pressure as it has to suddenly start pushing mass instead of pushing that same mass from the start of expansion .. I could be wrong and I am planning to research this topic when I have a little time.
@@Oldmanwithagoldpan Me too. Im not quite sure how to google that but overcoming this question will get me farther toward knowing what Im doing. Good stuff man👍 Thanks for mentioning that for sure!😁👍
Great video, I've got me a handful of them Kent hulls! 👍
They’re a Cheddite hull, which are in turn very good hulls.
The precision buffer is my favorite, it just patterns better,never had a problem with it tearing up hulls As a matter of fact i bought 10 lbs of it. Let me know if ya want some!!!
I gotta get me some
We both shaved our big beards at the same time! I had a yeard as well... Too damn hot for that right now, I agree.
Great video man, keep up the videos!
Thanks man
Hey Tyler.Your face your buisness.Dont want to be a pain in the butt but be careful with those shoulder bruises .That ones pretty bad.2 years ago I spent 3 weeks in the hospital with a clot in that same place.Screaming in pain in the hospital I was for 2 nights even given oxy by the hospital and it didnt help much at all.Had to take Warfarin blood thinners for 6 months after that.If that clot had moved to my heart or lungs I could have died.Nice videos though man.Be careful out there.
Back then I didn’t know any better and was cramming the stock into my arm as hard as I could and death gripping the gun. I was letting my arm eat all of the recoil with no give. Now I just rest the stock against my arm with little pressure and I pull forward slightly with my supporting hand to mitigate recoil into my arm and just let the gun do what it’s gonna do. I ride the recoil. No more bruises and no pain unless I’m shooting single shots with magnum loads.
Hey Tyler ,
R Enjoying your videos !
You are giving out a lot of great info ! One question,
Where d You get those springs at for the load all
2 at ? Take Care and Be Safe
What springs are you referring too?
The springs that help the load all 2
Quite down !!!!! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly !
The springs that help the load all 2
Quite down !!!!! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly !
The springs that help the load all 2
Quite down !!!!! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly !
The springs that help the load all 2
Quite down !!!!! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly !
I would love to talk to ya personally about making some high recoil shells, as well as mixed buckshot loads from #1-4 Buck in 3" 12 Gauge for home defense with reduced risk of penetration. I only buy 12 Gauge shotguns, but am looking for a 10G. Even with my Remington TAC14 Lupara Grip, I love shooting Magnum buck and slugs from it aimed, I bought a XS Big Dot sight barrel for mine. It can be spicy on the wrists. That is for sure. But is quite tolerable, I trained for many years in Bujinkan Ninjutsu that teaches joint strength in workouts so that may have helped me. I love them all day and night in my Pump SXP and Saiga Clone. In my H&R breakaction light weight your boxing with it and its a fun ride all day and night as well. I get some really nice patterns out of its milled full choke with buck of smaller diameter than 00.
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Would 28grain Hodgdon Longshot with 30 grams of 2.4mm shot be a good load for gymnastics pigeons? Would 30 grain Hodgdon with 30 grams of 2.4 mm also work against !?
That’s too light of a load I would think. Pressure might be way to low to reliably function. That would be 7.5 shot. Shot size doesn’t matter, 1 ounce of lead is 1 ounce of lead. You would need a different powder as that’s basically a 1 1/16 ounce load which is very light for 12 gauge. Longshot will work but I’d start at 34 grains.
@@theshotgunscientists Thank you for the information! In Germany there is unfortunately not enough data on Hodgdon powders when it comes to shot. I think your films are great and very helpful for my reloading
@@huntermatze3791 go to hodgdons website for longshot you’ll find tons of free data
Awesome stuff bud🤙🏻 im very new to reloading I’m struggling to find data for the stuff I have mainly the wads and I just want to make a big kicking load like you have here I have 3inch cheddite hulls ready primed ,longshot powder, gualandi wad12vo23 and some 000buck so if you have any advice would be greatly appreciated 🤙🏻
For an 8 pellet 000 buck load I’d use 32 grains of longshot if you want recoil. Take your wad and cut off the shot cup and about half the piston section, if I’m thinking of the right wad. The 12v023 is the light target wad isn’t? Tall piston section with short shot cup? I’d recommend getting claybuster cb1138-12 wads from ballistic products, and the gualandi green wad. Maybe some 12 gauge .70 nitro cards to go over your powder for the claybuster wads if you want to use them. 000 buck will stack by 2’s in that wad if you have .35 caliber instead of .36. Or you could grab a bag of x12x gas seals and use 1/2” fiber cushion wads.
@@theshotgunscientists yes it’s a light target load bud I do have some ready sealed 13mm fibre wads the guy from the shop said I could sit them straight on the powder would they do the job? and I can stack them but 3s without the plastic wads so if I do cheddite hulls primed with 13mm fibre wad how much long shot and pellets would you go for thanks for your help greatly appreciated 🤙🏻
@@onlygunz-OG is it a fiber ward or a hard nitro card? Fiber wads shouldn’t be placed directly over the powder, pressures wouldn’t be able to build right and the round may not go off like it should.
@@theshotgunscientists it’s a fibre wad with like a thin black plastic either side
where did you learn so much about shells? kent being a cheddite hull and stuff?.
Wade rush, countless hours in forums online, searching for the stoutest loads possible, and buck and slug reloaders group on Facebook. Cheddite hulls are extremely distinct, I just know them when I pick up a hull.
@@theshotgunscientists I guess the longer I hang around the more Ill pick up. I did learn from Wade that the federal promo hulls were rio. That made sense because the primer pockets were too big. My very first shot hull to reload and it wouldnt prime right. I didnt know why or anything. . It was a reall bummer getting started I knew so little. Really cool of you to over basics in your vids. Lots of new guys out there need to know that stuff👍Me included
@@vdog4799 check out MannyCA’s video on how to resize primer pockets it’s a good one.
@@theshotgunscientists Thanks. I will. I saw your video also. I haven't tried it yet.
@@vdog4799 I've been reloading shot shells for 20+ years and have learned bushels of new tricks and several new loads from Tyler and Wade.. I actually found Tyler through his comments on one of Wade's videos and was blown away by his knowledge and ability to recite info off the top of his head. I Hope to keep seeing you around here.
I been pretty busy last couple of days and missed your blackpowder video, I see it isn't up anymore. Did it get pulled down and is it on any of your other platforms?
I had a few people tell me it may not be a good idea to post that on TH-cam so I deleted it. It was just a short video talking about how it’s made and me showing the burn rate of mine. I’ll be doing a full longer video with details on how I made mine soon on rumble.
@@theshotgunscientists im definitely lolooking forward to that. Thanks.
Will we be seeing a shoot the clock video soon? Lol
I wish.
@@theshotgunscientists 😅
I live in a socialist dumpster fire with silly magazine restrictions.
I'm interested in exploring reduced length 12 gauge buckshot and target loads. 2" or so, probably using the waa12r or something.
8 mo later *:* I've tried some shortys - They double feed in my semi auto and in my pump the ejection is tempramental.
But 21 gr of #4 buckshot is a tightly stacked 1 oz load over a powder charge that's generally used for 2-3/4 1 oz load.
Use a BP gas seal or X12X under a cork or felt cushion.
@@bertkilborne6464 I'm confident that a 1 3/4 shell will be problematic in any auto loader. But a 2" overall length might be long enough to prevent the shell from standing up on the carrier
Whats next a haircut? 🤔
Never. I’m growing the beard back I regretted it immediately.
@@theshotgunscientists ok just joshing, have a great day.
@@williamcrawford7982 I know man lol you too
Bruise from poor gun mount.
Nope just bad technique, I was cramming the stock into my shoulder as hard as possible.