We're talking hubs right? BERD is a generic ratchet hub that will be easy to service and probably not give you any trouble. No bragging rights though like you would get with the Onyx but don't have a set so can't comment much about those.
Black, maybe boring, I had white originally, looked grubby and couldn’t clean up. Now black. Total game changing wheels. I ride a HT, if you are a crazy HT rider, they are worth it !!!
Awesome video yet again!!! I'd like to try out some berd spokes but do they need constant tuning after the first few hundred kilometers?I bet that there are very compliant...I would go all black for the color,the lighter colors would probably be hard to keep looking clean...
Thanks Glenn. Actually once they settle they're fine, maybe after one season put a bit more tension on them. They also offer rebuilds of your own wheels with their spokes 😉
Hi. Off topic here.. Can I ask is there any difference other than the colour on the spider - red or black on the sunrace 12 speed 11 - 51 mz903? Thanks
Rather have crossrides because straight pull never gives my a problem ....unlike hookspokes . Alot of hub companies are behind the ball if they don't make all straight pull. Hook stay loose..constantly truing n tightening them ..str8 pull never touch with a tool .. tight n perfect. But some people like to have to fix their wheels all the time. Me..i rather Ride.
Ok.. I understand. The benefit appears to be lighter spokes. The disadvantage is resale. That hub is rare. The spokes are rare. The overall weight is sub-1500g which is great, not incredible. I'm going to focus on Roval Control SL wheels. They hold their value pretty well.
The hub is basically a DT 350 with common rachet and bearings. The spokes are amazing. Super durable, very good ride quality and you can carry spare spokes in your bike tool bag if you were so inclined. I don't understand why these wouldn't hold their value.
Hi,this is a awesome channel i sub 🙂,may i ask for you opinion please,i have a planet x on-one wrekkker ti hardtail bike it has sram gx 12 drivetrain but the wheelset is saying it's 11 speed WTB I30 29er On Formula Boost 6 Bolt Wheelset Shimano 11 Speed,i wonder if you know which would be a better wheelset that is a bit lighter,also if i got a 12 speed wheelset would it make this bike a little faster,i don't understand is it the hub that's 11 speed why ?
@@LoveMTB SRAM PG-1230 Eagle 12 Speed Cassette 11-50,yes i agree i should improve my fitness also 😅,i'm currently waiting on the pirelli xc rc prowalls and try going tubless for first time 🙂
I do not have experience with the Spinergy wheels but I can tell you that the BERD wheels are something else. And yes, you can build lighter but that's not everyting, is it?🤘
@@LoveMTB Not saying they need to be lighter. But the Spinergy wheels are in the 1400g range, but (with alumimun rims) the SET costs less than $1,000. That's value.
The point is to have a more comfortable ride. Not to find cheaper metal spoke wheels. Ur comparison is meaningless for the purpose of his purchase and noted experience of cushion
Looks interesting but not a chance. Lol. No way I trust the long term or the punishment of the adventure style riding we do. Unless I am given a set to beat to death, not worth the effort or potential hassle imho. Thanx for doing the review....
WoW!! Wonderful! I would choose the black one's...😊
Thanks Vinicio, I will probably do black with a bit of color mixed ;)
@lovemtb what's your opinion between berd and onyx? berd is lighter than onyx. but the 15248 is impossible to get to upgrade to ceramic. thoughts?
We're talking hubs right? BERD is a generic ratchet hub that will be easy to service and probably not give you any trouble. No bragging rights though like you would get with the Onyx but don't have a set so can't comment much about those.
Black, maybe boring, I had white originally, looked grubby and couldn’t clean up.
Now black.
Total game changing wheels. I ride a HT, if you are a crazy HT rider, they are worth it !!!
Yup pretty much our experience! Or as my kids would say - turning a hardtail into a soft tail 😊
appreciate the video! on the bike you have it for, i would keep the spokes white
Hmmm...it definitely crossed my mind!😉
Blue Berd spokes for me.
Awesome video yet again!!! I'd like to try out some berd spokes but do they need constant tuning after the first few hundred kilometers?I bet that there are very compliant...I would go all black for the color,the lighter colors would probably be hard to keep looking clean...
Thanks Glenn. Actually once they settle they're fine, maybe after one season put a bit more tension on them. They also offer rebuilds of your own wheels with their spokes 😉
Hi. Off topic here.. Can I ask is there any difference other than the colour on the spider - red or black on the sunrace 12 speed 11 - 51 mz903? Thanks
Just the color but some of the black ones are heavier too, different part number though
I’ve seen a few riders with Berd spokes so my question about the white is how well do they clean up? White looks great until it doesn’t.
They don't really get dirty and cleanup quite nicely. So I can always color them later😉
@@LoveMTB Thank you sir. I’m going to give them a shot.
Red spokes💪
Light spokes and a 306gr. rear hub WITH center lock doesn't go together really well. I'd still go PiRope.
I think the Straight Pull system of Pi Rope is much better suited for textile spokes.
The downside is: you have to use their hubs.
I did build with staightpull also, but you can use any hubs. Here's the DUKEs - th-cam.com/video/yRD_3mf3AW4/w-d-xo.html
Yellow!!!
😊😊😊
Rather have crossrides because straight pull never gives my a problem ....unlike hookspokes . Alot of hub companies are behind the ball if they don't make all straight pull. Hook stay loose..constantly truing n tightening them ..str8 pull never touch with a tool .. tight n perfect. But some people like to have to fix their wheels all the time. Me..i rather Ride.
No need to tinker with the wheels k-hook or straightpull if you know what you’re doing. 😎
@@LoveMTB yeah, may e a lil different with berds. But if i used berds. Would use str8 pull . Hooks look too cheeesy .
@@jasonkroll2735 🧀🧀🧀
I'd love to have red spokes
Interesting...
Red and Black spokes could be nice. Pink and white also😅
I think I'll let you try the pink first ☺
Ok.. I understand. The benefit appears to be lighter spokes.
The disadvantage is resale. That hub is rare. The spokes are rare. The overall weight is sub-1500g which is great, not incredible.
I'm going to focus on Roval Control SL wheels. They hold their value pretty well.
It's not just the weight though...the ride is what makes them special.
The hub is basically a DT 350 with common rachet and bearings. The spokes are amazing. Super durable, very good ride quality and you can carry spare spokes in your bike tool bag if you were so inclined. I don't understand why these wouldn't hold their value.
@@kayakutah I'm sure they will!
Hi,this is a awesome channel i sub 🙂,may i ask for you opinion please,i have a planet x on-one wrekkker ti hardtail bike it has sram gx 12 drivetrain but the wheelset is saying it's 11 speed WTB I30 29er On Formula Boost 6 Bolt Wheelset Shimano 11 Speed,i wonder if you know which would be a better wheelset that is a bit lighter,also if i got a 12 speed wheelset would it make this bike a little faster,i don't understand is it the hub that's 11 speed why ?
Gx with what cassette? What's your smallest cog?
And probably not, better fitness will make you faster 🤓
@@LoveMTB SRAM PG-1230 Eagle 12 Speed Cassette 11-50,yes i agree i should improve my fitness also 😅,i'm currently waiting on the pirelli xc rc prowalls and try going tubless for first time 🙂
black, white, purple combination
Hmmm...
white spokes look good, but do a rainbow wheel...
Not cool bro
I’d go with black spokes with yellow spokes on each side of valve.
Might be the winning combo 🤓
Why would I want a 462g hubset if I was already making a compromise to have these goofy noodle spokes? I'd pick Extralite, a 225g hubset.
You can build BERD with whatever hubs you choose these are a lot easier to build with though
There cool but so expensive 😇
But would do black with 2 yellow by valve stem 😇
Winner of the day??!😇
At 1400+ grams, you can get a set of Spinergy wheels for far far less money..
I do not have experience with the Spinergy wheels but I can tell you that the BERD wheels are something else. And yes, you can build lighter but that's not everyting, is it?🤘
@@LoveMTB Not saying they need to be lighter. But the Spinergy wheels are in the 1400g range, but (with alumimun rims) the SET costs less than $1,000. That's value.
@@bikebudha01 Could be. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with their products but would be very interested to review them😄
The point is to have a more comfortable ride. Not to find cheaper metal spoke wheels. Ur comparison is meaningless for the purpose of his purchase and noted experience of cushion
fail. i build carbon wheelsets around 1450g with normal spokes all the time.
If the weight was everything in life...😇
Cool story bro, no one cares. The point is cushion, not grams.
Looks interesting but not a chance. Lol. No way I trust the long term or the punishment of the adventure style riding we do. Unless I am given a set to beat to death, not worth the effort or potential hassle imho.
Thanx for doing the review....
No worries Andre! We're on the second season on a hardtail and...big difference, comfortable like no other!
They are actually better than regular spokes as they won’t snap.
The spokes might be innovative, but the hubs are just copy cats.
Probably true