I never knew how brutal and feared Comanches were until I researched that. The Comanches were a horrible scourge of killers for no apparent reason. The history behind them, explained why they had a reason for that and a fierce defense of their homeland. Fascinating history. The Comanche hated everyone, white, other Indian tribes, everybody.
I think the background for their ruthlessness goes back to before the Spanish brought horses. They were bullied other tribes and pushed around, once they acquired run away wild horses, they began to breed them and became the most skilled horsemen on the planes, they never forgot how they were treated and became vengeful. Wicked.
One of my ancestors under the Republic Of Texas was an early Texas Ranger and is honored and buried in the State Capitals cemetary he had a Law degree and was Sam Houstons Friend and he served in the Texas Government upon entering the union he wrote the legislation that created the updated and new Ranger Force from the earlier Rep.Tx. One that Stephen and Moses Austin first created he also fought at battles of Plum Creek and Salado as well as San Jacinto.
I just found out that an 80 year old friend's great grandfather or great, great grandfather was a Texas ranger by the name of Jack Dollman in the late 1800s and early 1900s. He just gave me a framed picture of Dollman. Hoping to find more information on him for Hoot.
I've heard of Ranger Dollman. I can't recall if it was somewhere in the "Empire of the Summer Moon" (the most comprehensive written account on the Commanche and their famous half white final Chef Quannah Parker) rught here in a different OK Corral video or in Bigfoot Wallace's biography (The Adventures of Bigfoot Wallace).
@@Frater_Maven Thank you so much for the leads. I will try to check them out and see what I can find. I'm sure that Hoot would love to hear a story or 2 about his Texas Ranger relative.
I love these historical stories of Texas and the Comanche. I grew up (in the Army so moved quite a bit)Central Texas during my teen years not far from a place called Comanche Gap. Spent all my highschool years there, hunting and fishing all over Ft. Hood and the surrounding areas. Sure am glad I didn't have to worry about getting scalped then. Fascinating history the Texas Rangers have!
Nice job, and valuable contribution to the preservation of history, which is too often distorted in favor of the Indians by romanticizing their culture and behavior as positive or justified. But why the ending comment that the "(Commanches way of life was SADLY and abruptly brought to an end)" when it is undisputable that this Commanche "way" of life was dominated by and assured by aggressive brutality and cruelty in their claim and domination of territory in the West of 24,000 square miles? Their demise was not due to the loss of this terriorty, far and excess of the need of life support of only about approx. 15,000 commanche, but due to self-defense, the right to survive and revenge of the people the Commanche tormented - Americans and other Indians tribes. And the end of the scourge took place too slowly for the myriad victims of their brutality and sadism. "Sadly" implies that the writer feels there was somehow nobility in the Commanche fierocity against the helpless and innocent. Is there worthiness and even legitimacy to exist, in a culture where people tormented others without regard to decency, justice and love. Was their culture as worthy to exist as one defined by assured by universal law, cooperation and universal love? Why romanticize negative, savage culture just because it involves a people who eventually had to give it up due the imperative and natural process of the evolution Mankind? Too often, young people who have not seen war and genocide, or maybe who have, feel "respect" for the savage enemy - a warrior's respect for prowess in battle, untempered by the savagery committed. Or a respect for the vanquished as the "underdog" in a battle? (but the Native American warrior societies often held the upperhand in the development and civilizing of North America). That is misplaced respect, Misplaced admiration. The Indians, especially the Commanche, were cruel and sadistic in battle and in treatment of their victims, intentionally so to strike terror in the hearts of their victims so they could dominate and become rich on theft, and establish their glory in the eyes of their tribes whom thay made wealthy thereby. the demise of Commanche power (and generally of the power other indigenouis stone age tribes), and the sadistic, brutal, vain glorious, egotistical, chauvanistic, aggressive and greedy culture that it entailed and enshrined, is not an occasion for sadness, but celebration and great relief, on the part of humanity and civilization. Historians and history should show the reality, not romanticization of history which is not only a distortion of the reality but also a betrayal of the helpless and innocent victims of the romanticized savages. If we think that the Commanche were only defending their natural right to the land and their way of life, we must remember that they "won" this land and way of life by extreme cruelty and aggression and that their "way" of life was essentially negative, savage. Instead of white-washing Indian savagery, and we should lament, remember and empathize with their innocent victims who suffered unbearable grief and suffering and who actually had a greater natural right to the land for its peaceful cultivation for widespread prosperity and adoption into the empire of universal law that incorporated universal liberty, the dignity of mankind and the sanctity of life, that was and is the United States. The Commanche "empire" (and that of many other Indian groups) was no such empire but an inter-tribal cooperation for the domination of the lives and wealth of others under the law of "survival of the fittest", which in the Stone Age meant the most aggressive, ruthless, brutal and cruel. If asked who they are, or who are their people, today's "native" Americans will typically respond "my tribe" / Commanche, Shawenee, Cherokee etc, but Americans (who are "non native"?) will typically respond I am an American / a human being and that my people are Americans and all humanity regardless of race, ethnicity, etc. The indigenous people of North America and their unevolved, devisive and belligerent stone age culture was not eliminated by genocide and racial hatred but was naturally displaced under the laws of evolution by the American culture because that American culture was more positive, more advanced, more evolved, benefitting all mankind , rather than perpetually generating war, hatred, devisiveness, revenge, insecurity, and nightmare that was the miserable mire of North American Stone Age culture.
Leakey is often mispronounced. They pronounce it "Lake-key". I have walked the cemetery there and have seen many graves dating back to early 1800's. The last family killed by Indians is buried there also. If you ever get over that way, stop and check out that cemetery. Many Confederate soldiers interred there also.
Bless your family for carving a civilization that is so much the envy of those now deciding it’s safe to live there now after our families’ spilled an ocean of blood to their posterity. My ancestor founded the county seat Uvalde yet it’s been destroyed and it breaks my heart. These men, women, and children deserve our respect. And the least we can do is honor their sacrifices by saying “no” to the treachery of the treasonist BPD.
Thank you boys, this tale was never heard before by me and I enjoyed it thoroughly! 🎉 All a question of using enough gun. Not Henry's 1870 ? God's Blessings from Northern Germany Ludwig.
Wow! I see that some Europeans also enjoy tales ofthe old west! That’s great, and it breaks us closer together which we definitely need if we are to withstand the Russian threat.
@@majorronaldmandell7835 yessir and some of us had it learned and teach it to the young people for more than 35 years. All the best from Northern Germany Ludwig.
I love Working in dripping springs simply a beautiful city just now turning into a suburb sadly. Bexar they pronounce it “bear” today I wonder how it changed from its old origins
I encourage people to read Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee bc all the accounts from the side of settlers has a deeply disturbing flip side. What happened to Natives in their own land should be better known so the entire story is told. By 1880 40 million buffalo were slaughtered. This was to force the Natives who were left on to Reservations. Land were very little grew & people were sick & dying. ☮️
I live in Comancheria, and know many of the old tales. Warriors had no problems dragging infants thru cactus killing them, or cutting a woman's throat. Spare me the noble bullshit. It was kill or be killed on a brutal frontier. Both sides fought to the death for land they wanted for themselves. Since man first walked this earth he has sought to dominate others.
We live in a colonized world so I find it interesting when people try to push back on historical events that they’re not familiar with, equating might with being right. I’m so used to it that all it does is remind me of the willful ignorance of the dominant culture. It doesn’t teach me anything, but it reinforces that many people are so rigid in their thinking that any unknown info upsets them. My suggestion is for those who want to know all aspects of history. Everyone else can keep it moving, there’s nothing in my suggestion for you.
And he more than likely was behind a plow growing up. I have a photo of my Great great grandfather in 1920 at 104 years old. He had massive hands from being a farmer in Lavaca County, Texas. He came to Mexican Texas in 1834 at the age of 18. He lived 105 years 7 months and 21 days.Born Feb.25,1816- Oct.16,1921 He came out of what was known as Neutral Ground in Southwest Louisiana. At that time Rapides Parish. Now modern day Vernon,Allen and Rapides Parishes. He witnessed quite a bit in those days. Everything from Steamboats, Railroads, the Telegraph and Telephone and maybe a car or two. And possibly the Radio. Vaya con Dios from the great State of Tejas ADIOS AMIGO...@@chrisjones6736
It really sucks to hear that all these rangers died peaceful in their homes at retirement age. Makes it seem like karma is not real. Most if the commanches were good people.
@@captainpinky8307 you mean their history according to white people? The comanche didn't really write down their perspective or all of the betrayals by white people
On the return ride home, not the first Dad to Son "Don't tell your mother" speech 😂
Youre doing a great service to the Texas culture! The Comanche and Rangers should be remembered
I never knew how brutal and feared Comanches were until I researched that. The Comanches were a horrible scourge of killers for no apparent reason. The history behind them, explained why they had a reason for that and a fierce defense of their homeland. Fascinating history. The Comanche hated everyone, white, other Indian tribes, everybody.
I think the background for their ruthlessness goes back to before the Spanish brought horses. They were bullied other tribes and pushed around, once they acquired run away wild horses, they began to breed them and became the most skilled horsemen on the planes, they never forgot how they were treated and became vengeful. Wicked.
The Comanche were pure evil.
One of my ancestors under the Republic Of Texas was an early Texas Ranger and is honored and buried in the State Capitals cemetary he had a Law degree and was Sam Houstons Friend and he served in the Texas Government upon entering the union he wrote the legislation that created the updated and new Ranger Force from the earlier Rep.Tx. One that Stephen and Moses Austin first created he also fought at battles of Plum Creek and Salado as well as San Jacinto.
I just found out that an 80 year old friend's great grandfather or great, great grandfather was a Texas ranger by the name of Jack Dollman in the late 1800s and early 1900s. He just gave me a framed picture of Dollman. Hoping to find more information on him for Hoot.
I've heard of Ranger Dollman. I can't recall if it was somewhere in the "Empire of the Summer Moon" (the most comprehensive written account on the Commanche and their famous half white final Chef Quannah Parker) rught here in a different OK Corral video or in Bigfoot Wallace's biography (The Adventures of Bigfoot Wallace).
@@Frater_Maven Thank you so much for the leads. I will try to check them out and see what I can find. I'm sure that Hoot would love to hear a story or 2 about his Texas Ranger relative.
I love these historical stories of Texas and the Comanche. I grew up (in the Army so moved quite a bit)Central Texas during my teen years not far from a place called Comanche Gap. Spent all my highschool years there, hunting and fishing all over Ft. Hood and the surrounding areas.
Sure am glad I didn't have to worry about getting scalped then.
Fascinating history the Texas Rangers have!
They prefer to be called “octogenarians”
Does it matter. I really mean it. If it doesn’t help you be a kinder and nicer person what is the point of leaning on someone else’s life.
Wonderful story. Thank you for taking us home, for a visit.
A great documentary
Thank you 💛 for this history lesson. I love learning history the way you teach it. One battle of importance at a time. Thanks again! ❤
Great story of one battle between the Rangers and Comanche First People. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
Awesome job with this channel
Another great story. Love your stuff.
I was here just as promised, I grew up with a Texas ranger named Kid, his brother was Roy Kid.
Roy and Frank kid was his name.
Excellent.
Great story as usual
Nice job, and valuable contribution to the preservation of history, which is too often distorted in favor of the Indians by romanticizing their culture and behavior as positive or justified.
But why the ending comment that the "(Commanches way of life was SADLY and abruptly brought to an end)" when it is undisputable that this Commanche "way" of life was dominated by and assured by aggressive brutality and cruelty in their claim and domination of territory in the West of 24,000 square miles?
Their demise was not due to the loss of this terriorty, far and excess of the need of life support of only about approx. 15,000 commanche, but due to self-defense, the right to survive and revenge of the people the Commanche tormented - Americans and other Indians tribes. And the end of the scourge took place too slowly for the myriad victims of their brutality and sadism.
"Sadly" implies that the writer feels there was somehow nobility in the Commanche fierocity against the helpless and innocent. Is there worthiness and even legitimacy to exist, in a culture where people tormented others without regard to decency, justice and love. Was their culture as worthy to exist as one defined by assured by universal law, cooperation and universal love?
Why romanticize negative, savage culture just because it involves a people who eventually had to give it up due the imperative and natural process of the evolution Mankind? Too often, young people who have not seen war and genocide, or maybe who have, feel "respect" for the savage enemy - a warrior's respect for prowess in battle, untempered by the savagery committed. Or a respect for the vanquished as the "underdog" in a battle? (but the Native American warrior societies often held the upperhand in the development and civilizing of North America). That is misplaced respect, Misplaced admiration. The Indians, especially the Commanche, were cruel and sadistic in battle and in treatment of their victims, intentionally so to strike terror in the hearts of their victims so they could dominate and become rich on theft, and establish their glory in the eyes of their tribes whom thay made wealthy thereby.
the demise of Commanche power (and generally of the power other indigenouis stone age tribes), and the sadistic, brutal, vain glorious, egotistical, chauvanistic, aggressive and greedy culture that it entailed and enshrined, is not an occasion for sadness, but celebration and great relief, on the part of humanity and civilization. Historians and history should show the reality, not romanticization of history which is not only a distortion of the reality but also a betrayal of the helpless and innocent victims of the romanticized savages.
If we think that the Commanche were only defending their natural right to the land and their way of life, we must remember that they "won" this land and way of life by extreme cruelty and aggression and that their "way" of life was essentially negative, savage. Instead of white-washing Indian savagery, and we should lament, remember and empathize with their innocent victims who suffered unbearable grief and suffering and who actually had a greater natural right to the land for its peaceful cultivation for widespread prosperity and adoption into the empire of universal law that incorporated universal liberty, the dignity of mankind and the sanctity of life, that was and is the United States. The Commanche "empire" (and that of many other Indian groups) was no such empire but an inter-tribal cooperation for the domination of the lives and wealth of others under the law of "survival of the fittest", which in the Stone Age meant the most aggressive, ruthless, brutal and cruel.
If asked who they are, or who are their people, today's "native" Americans will typically respond "my tribe" / Commanche, Shawenee, Cherokee etc, but Americans (who are "non native"?) will typically respond I am an American / a human being and that my people are Americans and all humanity regardless of race, ethnicity, etc. The indigenous people of North America and their unevolved, devisive and belligerent stone age culture was not eliminated by genocide and racial hatred but was naturally displaced under the laws of evolution by the American culture because that American culture was more positive, more advanced, more evolved, benefitting all mankind , rather than perpetually generating war, hatred, devisiveness, revenge, insecurity, and nightmare that was the miserable mire of North American Stone Age culture.
Leakey is often mispronounced. They pronounce it "Lake-key". I have walked the cemetery there and have seen many graves dating back
to early 1800's. The last family killed by Indians is buried there also. If you ever get over that way, stop and check out that cemetery.
Many Confederate soldiers interred there also.
Bless your family for carving a civilization that is so much the envy of those now deciding it’s safe to live there now after our families’ spilled an ocean of blood to their posterity. My ancestor founded the county seat Uvalde yet it’s been destroyed and it breaks my heart. These men, women, and children deserve our respect. And the least we can do is honor their sacrifices by saying “no” to the treachery of the treasonist BPD.
Thanks!
Its seems almost not real
Good video 👍
Thank you boys, this tale was never heard before by me and I enjoyed it thoroughly! 🎉 All a question of using enough gun. Not Henry's 1870 ? God's Blessings from Northern Germany Ludwig.
Wow! I see that some Europeans also enjoy tales ofthe old west! That’s great, and it breaks us closer together which we definitely need if we are to withstand the Russian threat.
@@majorronaldmandell7835 yessir and some of us had it learned and teach it to the young people for more than 35 years. All the best from Northern Germany Ludwig.
I love Working in dripping springs simply a beautiful city just now turning into a suburb sadly. Bexar they pronounce it “bear” today I wonder how it changed from its old origins
I encourage people to read Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee bc all the accounts from the side of settlers has a deeply disturbing flip side. What happened to Natives in their own land should be better known so the entire story is told.
By 1880 40 million buffalo were slaughtered. This was to force the Natives who were left on to Reservations. Land were very little grew & people were sick & dying.
☮️
Encourage you to follow up on British Colonial policy vs natives. If you do you will become a convert to the Loyalist story . . .
I live in Comancheria, and know many of the old tales. Warriors had no problems dragging infants thru cactus killing them, or cutting a woman's throat. Spare me the noble bullshit. It was kill or be killed on a brutal frontier. Both sides fought to the death for land they wanted for themselves. Since man first walked this earth he has sought to dominate others.
It was a good book. Very informative. And sad
So who deemed it "their land"? To the Victor goes the spoils.
We live in a colonized world so I find it interesting when people try to push back on historical events that they’re not familiar with, equating might with being right. I’m so used to it that all it does is remind me of the willful ignorance of the dominant culture. It doesn’t teach me anything, but it reinforces that many people are so rigid in their thinking that any unknown info upsets them. My suggestion is for those who want to know all aspects of history. Everyone else can keep it moving, there’s nothing in my suggestion for you.
So what you're sayin' is Texans should shoot for the commanding chief? 😉
"...hardship and violence." These are some of the men we owe the fact we moderns mostly no longer live with these unpleasant things.
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Hey max, Sam, and Chance, I’d love to win a knife. Thanks
History OK . . . Rufus at 10:35 . . . How can the extrememe colour of his hands vs his face, be accounted for ?
He wore a hat.
And he more than likely was behind a plow growing up.
I have a photo of my Great great grandfather in 1920 at 104 years old. He had massive hands from being a farmer in Lavaca County, Texas.
He came to Mexican Texas in 1834 at the age of 18. He lived 105 years 7 months and 21 days.Born Feb.25,1816- Oct.16,1921 He came out of what was known as Neutral Ground in Southwest Louisiana. At that time Rapides Parish. Now modern day Vernon,Allen and Rapides Parishes. He witnessed quite a bit in those days. Everything from Steamboats, Railroads, the Telegraph and Telephone and maybe a car or two. And possibly the Radio.
Vaya con Dios from the great State of Tejas
ADIOS AMIGO...@@chrisjones6736
It really sucks to hear that all these rangers died peaceful in their homes at retirement age. Makes it seem like karma is not real. Most if the commanches were good people.
do you know their history.....
@@captainpinky8307 you mean their history according to white people? The comanche didn't really write down their perspective or all of the betrayals by white people
The Comanches were ruthless and horrible. 50% of the Texas rangers died.
@@randyschwehr1464 the comamches were not really horrible. They were betrayed by Europeans at every single possible way
Keep living in that fantasy land. The Comanche didn't just do those things to Europeans they also did it to almost everyone else too............