Comanche Killer | What it’s like to HUNT DOWN the Most DANGEROUS Indians in North America
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- In the mid-1830s the New Texas Republic experienced threats from all angles. To the South, Texas was constantly skirmishing with Mexico. To the North there was a more terrifying threat, the Comanche. At this time, settlers on the Texas frontier were no match for the Comanche. As horsemen they were among the best in the world and they constantly raided the encroaching settlements.
To stop the bleeding, Texas instituted ranging companies of men for the purpose of defending their frontier. These “rangers” were slaughtered by the Comanche. Their rifles were no match for the speed of a Comanche bow.
But in the late 1830s a man named John “Jack” Coffee Hays moved to the young republic. His leadership will change the way that the Texans fought the Comanche and within a decade a gun maker named Samuel Colt will invent a new weapon that will give the Texans a fighting chance against the most brutal Indian tribe on the continent.
The Battle of Walker’s Creek will be its field test.
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Script edited by Derek Deremer
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Probably before you were born, I did my first graduate level 25 page research paper on the importance of the Colt revolver in the winning of Texas and the opening of the west. Your very accurate and enthusiastic presentation is a joy for an old Historian to watch and hear.
You might be interested in the book “empire of the summer moon” if you haven’t read it already
Repeating firearms and Buffalo massacre lol
Send your research around, get it presented! I’d love to hear you!
I'd love to read your research paper. Are you Aggie by any chance?
Dude, I wish I could read your paper right now.
My ggggrandparents immigrated to Texas from Ohio in early 1836. Shortly there after, my ggggrandfather joined Sam Houston’s army and fought in the war. My family has been here since the beginning of The Republic Of Texas. My grandfather was born in 1884. He served as a Texas Ranger in 1907 in what was then called Indian Territory. The area that became Oklahoma.
I admire your delivery;
-Nonchalant,
-'it is what it is'
-they love that sh*t,
- parents taught them well
Pitch, tone quality of message. You secured your position.
Kudos,
Robert
🌴
Thank you. I appreciate that.
You’re the literal only creator that doesn’t speak of natives in a racist way, all the others that cover native stuff do so because they are racist and obsessed, not you you’re the only good one
This was flippin' excellent I reckon. Cheers alot man. You really do a top job. All the best, from Cornwall. UK.
I came as soon as I saw the notification. As a Texan, these stories are very important to me. It seems most don't realize how brutal the Comanche were, and how this made the original Texas Rangers to become brutal as well.
Thank you for telling these historical stories!
Jack Hays is a heck of his story in his own merit but paired up with the colt and the battle of walkers creek it is a literal history defining moment.
Thanks for watching.
All were brutal!
My great, great grandfather, Ranger Patrick Gallagher helped to remove the Comanche from Texas. He has his story in Indian Depredations in Texas. God bless the hard fighting Texans of that day.
@@calvanoni5443 They make movies praising the eloquence of gun. James Bomb is a good example with his peashooter.
Brutally protecting their native land from being stolen and sold? 🧐
After living my entire life in the San Antonio and hill country areas, I can see why this region would be lusted after by anyone traveling through its resource rich landscape. I'm a proud 6th generation Texan and have an ancestor who fought and died in the Battle of the Alamo named Gregorio Esparza. Long live Texas!
Many of us have ancestors going back to the first settlers sent by the king of Spain and granted porciones of land along the Rio grande. Indian stories, too, are still shared
Hello cousin, Gregorio Esparza is also a descendent. My grandmothers great grandfather was Carlos Esparza, however he killed Texas rangers and he was part of a paramilitary group called las águilas negras .
@@elpidiovillarreal6246 descendant/ ancestor
From Virginia and living in Texas! There is nothing more inspiring than seeing people from this state so patriotic and full of pride for who they are!
It's the way Texans are built!
Living in VA now and dreaming to live in Texas soon. ❤
@@n_shulx4304 yeah but nothing beats the mountains in VA though
Actually, I was already planning to add “anything Sioux related” to the suggestion box, before you said that. 👍
The Comanche series is coming to an end in the next few videos. I wouldn’t be surprised if I pick up with the Sioux. When I was about 6 months into the channel I did two videos on them. One on Crazy Horse and another on a love story of Black Elk Speaks. But there is a ton there.
"God made man, Colt made them equal"
Some of the most badass shit put into words
With each upload, your videos get better and better! Your ability to tell historic stories with fascinating intensity is amazing! This is now one of my favorite Dates And Dead Guys videos.
Thank you. I hope quality keeps improving as the channel grows.
Just subscribed. This guy's storytelling ability and content are phenomenal!
Thank you, A lot of work and research goes into these videos. I am happy you enjoy them.
Excellent as usual. Thank you
The first colt revolver was produced on March 5 ,1836 which was the day Charles Goodnight was born who would later become a ranger and Indian fighter himself.
I get so excited when you upload ! Every video is so. Freaking. Goodddddd
For the next three months at least I think I will be able to keep videos coming at least bi-weekly so more content should be out than usual.
If you think about it, some very brave people with 19th century tech level, have barely coped with a relatively small population of nomadic horsemen, ONLY due to one critical and very timely breakthrough in firearms tech that in itself was like 5 centuries ahead of longbows...
What was the Mongol army like back in 12-13 century then?!? with personal skills similar to those of the Comanches AND much greater numbers, united command, discipline, ability to utilize prisoners... just thinking about is giving me creeps.
Fascinating. Not being American about all we are taught about Texas's early history is the Alamo and the boys there and Sam Houston. So this is really interesting and new. Colt was a real genius.
Well gotta control the narrative afterall......
Looking back now I see why it’s necessary that states should have the rights to choose what is taught in schools. Now I know why it’s important to know Texas history living in Texas. We can’t let the central government teach what they want to kids.
I grew up in Texas and that’s about all we’re taught too. Apparently the 3 deadliest American outlaws are from my hometown and im related to one of them. Had no idea until recently. Mexicans & ✡️ have taken over
Bigfoot Wallace said that his favorite thing to eat was bear meat and honey. No wonder the rangers went after the honey. I'm almost done reading The Comanches by T.H. Fehrenbach and will read Comanche Moon next. I read The Lipan Apaches People of Wind and Lightning by Thomas A. Britten before this, thanks to you. Must reads if you want to understand the history of Indians and early Texas. Thanks for another great video!
Fehrenbach’s book is my favorite about Comanches. He does such a fun job in the first third of the book on their culture. It’s fascinating.
Absolutely breath-taking stories. I am always on the edge of my seat when listening to them. And I am learning so much. Thank you for this latest video. From Moscow, Russia.
I see you commenting on the judge napolitano, col daniel davis channels etc... usually the live chat. Nice meeting you here also.
Saying muskets were “no match” for bows is a bit of a misnomer. While bows did have some advantages (speed of fire, indirect fire etc.) muskets had far more advantages. The biggest being damage, bows rarely killed in one shot unlike in the movies, muskets rarely didn’t kill in one shot, also they could carry more ammo, were more accurate due in part to being less susceptible to wind and had a quicker ‘hip fire’ because they didn’t need to be drawn back like bows, which were more exhausting. Also they were more accurate than is often depicted, even smoothbores.
This is why Indian tribes quickly adopted the musket when they could, and used bows more out of logistical necessity than due to tactical advantages.
In combat it is more advantageous to wound an enemy soldier than to kill one. Once you kill them, the other enemy soldiers do not try to care for him. But if you wound one, it takes at least another one or two enemy soldiers to extract and care for the wounded one. This is noted in this very story how the commanche were tending their wounded and did not expect a counter attack.
In straight combat yes, but in a guerrilla style conflict like with the Comanche who would appear suddenly with overwhelming numbers and quickly close the distance between you and them then ride away, no. The Comanche could engage quickly and negate the advantages of a muskets range and accuracy by getting in close and riding fast.
Thanks as always following up on all series of your Comanche stories, you always do, with very good information of all wars and dates and dead guys, and also the Colt Revolver, how it change the west back then. Thanks again ,
Proud TEXAN, I love this...❤❤❤
Awesome piece of history. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for another awesome story to listen to on the way to work.
I appreciate that. I have long wondered whether the stories stand by themselves or if the images increase the quality by much. I am happy to hear that people like to listen as well.
I know now.Nowadays , people are very visual. But there's still nothing better than listening to someone Telling a great. story like you do. Especially when it's true.
@@datesanddeadguys
Love your stuff. Keep it coming as long as you can please. Thank you!!!
I research guns a lot and I’ve heard this story a million times from a gun POV but it’s interesting to here the full historical pov
Wow I cannot believe how badass this was. I have a whole new respect for Texas and really Americans as a whole!
Great history and you as a host do outstanding. Keeps me interested all the way through. 👍🏻🇺🇸
I love your work, thank you very much.
Dates and Dead Guys is both the funniest and most fitting name for a history channel ever
Texas was saved by a lot of Tennesseans! LOL
I appreciate the intense research you do on the history of the SW United States & Northern Mexico. You do a lot of research on the Indians.
La frontera is what the area is called
Another great video. Please do a video on the Yaqui. Their war with Mexico is not as well-known a topic among the Indian wars.
Gotta do chief Joseph next man. He was considered the Indian napoleon cause his tricks he did and done
God Bless the Republic of Texas!!! Thank you for your excellent presentation. May I suggest a segment on JPs and Constables of the era?
Excellent, informative narration, and beautiful artwork.
Thanks, man, you do a good job!
Enjoying the narration and the tone very much
You tell history very well, and impartially. Thanks!
You have great delivery. I usually catch your humor. Talking about the rangers finding a beehive and "bumbling for he honey." Great videos! Thanks!
Man I could listen to you talk ALL day. Thanks for the great history lessons.
Extremely interesting. Thanks from England.
watch "A Man Called Horse"
Absolutely fascinating!
The quote is..."God made man, Sam Colt made them equal". And the original Colt was a 28 caliber with a six inch barrel. When he retooled the line he made them 36 caliber and gave the thing an eight inch barrel. It was said it was accurate out to about 60 yards or just inside the 75 yards the Comanche bow was. Though the Comanche practiced accuracy by volume and would have something between 50 and 100 arrows per warrior that would be kept on pack horses during a raid and would hold three arrows between the fingers of their bow hand, they would fire one and as soon as it was loosed they would have one notched and be drawing the bow back to fire again. They didn't use their bows like English longbowmen did. They held the bow sideways and would pull the string back about half way and loose them from the hip. I imagine they probably held them at the shoulder and pulled the string back to full pull so they could line the arrow up and aim at the Bison when they hunted. But I'm not sure. I only saw a thing on how they conducted warfare.
That was an interesting listen 👍
Thanks
This video shows why long-time Texas have such a strong identity as being "Texan". Their forefathers had to really struggle just to exist.
I'm not suggesting that people across the globe, to this day, don't have that in common.
I'll guess that the whole "sovereign nation" thing has A LOT to do with it! ❤
They had to struggle taking land to form Texas and then holding it
@@Lukedalegendz what?
Eh, hes talking about having to encrouch on the comanches land taking it and struggling to hold them off hence almost being a failed state which I guess Texans can be proud of that
@tudyk21
@@deebo_dee, don't be so jealous. I'm sure where you're from is nice, too.
And that whole "encroaching" thing. It's the history of mankind.
It's the history of the Comanche.
@@tudyk21 jealous? Why would I be? Just tell me which tribe never surrendered?
I'd be upset if it took a mass production of a firearm and changing tactics to an "archaic" kind to beat people with bows and spears.
Nothing to really be jealous about on my end partner 👍🏽
What I'm explaining to you is what happened; you seemed confused from the other guy
But yes, history..
Great pod cast , just found you and am enjoying the content ,keep em coming plz 😊
I can't help but wonder how Oda Nobunaga's ranked rifle volley strategy would have worked, provided the Comanche could be duped into charging such a fortified position...
Lets get you a better mic. Love your content. Keep'em comin. Best of luck to you.
That was awesome!....are you a historian or history professor? That video was spot on. I live in Southern Texas and am fairly knowledgeable in the history of the Texas Rangers and the Lord's of the Plains...The Comanches. Can you make a video on how the plains people made their war shields? Thank you... Keep the videos coming.
Hey man it would be interesting to hear about the iroquois warriors.
They are in contention for some stories I want to look into when I finish the Comanche series. Any stories in particular about the Iroquois that you want told?
@@datesanddeadguys well Id like to know more about how their presence affected both the sorrounding first nations and european settlers. How they handled the foreighners encroachment on their land and in turn how they in turn where viewed. You have done a great job at demonstrating this for both the Apache and Comanche.
@@datesanddeadguysthere’s an account in a book called “Captured by the Indians: 13 first hand accounts” of the battle of the snowshoes in 1757 between French/Iroquois and Roger’s Rangers. The account is written by a guy who got captured and details the brutality and how he had to resort to cannibalism after an escape attempt.. really insane read that would make a good video.
@jayar1 conveniently, I have that book. A couple years ago it was my inspiration for doing a story on Nelson Lee. I’ll check it out.
these are soooooo interesting, thank you
Thank you!
My ancestors came to the Texas Panhandle in the late 1800’s from Tennessee. I sure wish I knew what brought them out here!!!
You are a great story teller! History delivered beautifully! Well done!
"Captain Yack" Empire of the summer moon is a great book, though the details get pretty gnarly as the Comanche did not have a clear moral center outside of war. They both respected him and were afraid of him, because they didn't understand why he wouldn't just run away like rangers before him. I love the fact that no one else at the time was super interested in Colt's designs. Tx Rangers: yeah we'll take em. Later by the campfire... Tx Rangers discover slam fire
Shit Damn! Nice beard! Also, your content is good 👍.
The texas rangers had so much trouble with the commanche because the indians brought along spare horses on their raids while the rangers only had 1 horse each which they promptly rode down. The rangers simply couldn't catch the indians.
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Bruce Peek
Maybe more Conquistadors stuff? First video i saw from your channel was about this topic. Maybe more southamerica themes? Love your stuff!:) Thank you, greetings from germany
This was fascinating. I have never heard of this before.
Magnificent presentation. Thank you.
Amazing story. Thanks for posting it.
I love these history lessons. Thank you so much
Great presentation & information. I would like to suggest presenting information about the Algonquin tribes during the French & Indian War.
The Comanche mustangs were not built for speed over short distances, they were built for endurance.
One may wonder what devastation could have been caused with ONE semi automatic rifle & unlimited ammunition.
Yes gatling guns existed, but imagine a single Cowboy with a grudge & an AR-15.
Great video!
Thx for the information is great production!
Glad I stumbled across your channel great stuff man
Great commentary! Thanks!
Great video my man awesome job. Some very interesting and valuable information here
Great story and awesome video. Thanks!
Excellent video!! Thank you
17:35 "I want this, but bigger." Walker to Colt (probably).
I’m reading Lonesome Dove right now and it has me in a huge Wild West phase. Best book ever if you haven’t read it, it’s a funnier Lord of the Rings in the Wild West. It has love and intrigue, violence, ball busting, a journey between a sort of fellowship, heartbreak and more.
It would be exciting if you'd do a story on the Cheyenne Dog Soldiers.
That early frontier when it was the dark forests that filled europeans with fear before it was the great plains.
great story. i remember on the show Texas Ranger, Hay's was mentioned a lot with the history of the Rangers. I love the Wild West history. to some it still exists!!
These stories are a ton of fun to dive into.
We Texans do not see the signers of the declaration of Independence as our founding fathers, who's reserved for Stephen f. Austin, Sam Houston,Bowie, Hays , Lamar,Jones Navarro, Ruiz, Suguine,Burleson. We learn Texas history before American and world history.
Like somebody from the different part of world(Europe)i always was on the side of the Indians..now thanks you i cant see the other side of the story from the wild-wild west.. every video is so great and i looking in one breath.. thank you mister for all great videos yuo making..
The wars between the settlers and natives was never black and white with both sides doing terrible shit to each other, but the Comanche, like the Aztecs, were pretty much the objectively worse side morally speaking. They had their own lands and resources. Few had want of anything. So they expanded to raid others: other Indians, Anglos, or Mexicans, it didn't matter. They murdered graped, stole, and most of all tortured (they got creative with their torture) all whom they raided.
It is a myth that the natives were peaceful people who only want to farm and only fought when needed.
I thought the most famous Texas Ranger was Chuck Norris
Don't forget Trivette
I've enjoyed your videos
Loved it! 'Empire of the Summer Moon' is a very worthwhile and eye opening read, one to read and refer back to. I was unaware that the Comanche were such Bad A$$es, it would have taken a special man to face them, and to risk bringing a family in to the areas that the Comanche raided.
Amazing video and story
As anemic as the Patterson .36 is to us today, it proved to be a genuine man-killer, resulting in the development of later, more powerful sidearms. The introduction of the spring-loaded barrel wedge (introduced, I seem to remember, in1841) made the swapping of preloaded cylinders faster and more practical - hence the extra cylinders carried by each of Hays's men. In a timed shoot-off between me, with an original 1860 Colt with six preloaded cylinders, and a fellow with a Smith Model 29 with six speed-loaders with .44 special rounds, I beat his time by a hair shooting at the steel 4-inch plate at 20 yards. The technique of removing the barrel, dumping the empty cylinder and replacing it with a preloaded one, proved to be at least as quick as modern speed-loaders - in the hands of non-professional, average handgun shooters, anyhow! Another advantage of swapping cylinders in the Colt is that it cleans fouling from the arbor every six shots. ( To get this sort of reliable performance from a Colt percussion revolver, however, I would recommend installing a "cap rake" which prevents cap fragments from jamming the action - known as a "cap jam".) One must remember that such weapons killed and wounded many men in the 19th century, however primitive those weapons may seem to us today!
Surveying was the craziest job out there lol. God bless Texas.
I was not born in TEXAS but got here soon as I could!
“God did not create all men to be equal, Samuel Colt did” - Now that is a TRUE LINE TO REMEMBER🎉🎉🎉
Very good video
My family is descended from Comanche. There’s some real weird stories I’ve heard from my grandpa (born 1916) about his fathers uncles cutting up bodies of some of their pursuers and throwing them in the river to cover up their tracks quickly to keep moving
My great grandmother was 3/4 Comanche. My great uncle was a Texas ranger until he was kicked out.
Beautiful video
“A shot for each finger” wasn’t pretty accurate. It was 100% accurate. The Colt Patterson had 5 shots each or 10 between the two.
so very intersting piece of history !!!!
I really like the thumbnail and I would like a copy of that image
well done once again!
Cool man!
Literally anyone: *exists*
Comanches: “so you have chosen death…”
Ask Samuel Colt and his revolver who dies.
Thank you
Being from Indiana, if you could do something on the Mississinewa 1812 battle that would be interesting.
The natives stole nothing. They were fighting for the land stolen from them.otgerwise great video. Thanks
Putting aside that most of the land was vacant, therefore no one's land. The Comanche had no claim to the land. They were fro. The Wyoming area. They mastered the horses the Spanish brought and became an expansionist empire all their own: raiding Natives, Mexicans, and Anglos outside their territory.
Addressing natives as one group is like calling europe one group.
They still wage war against eachother for the usual things.
And so therefore different tribes did fight each other, as well as fight the settlers.
@minitntman1236 People seem to think every native tribe was the same. The Comanche were hated by pretty much everyone Anglo, Mexican, and native alike because they were so aggressive, violent, and cruel. They literally earned their name, which meant enemies of everyone forever. Many natives were treated poorly, but the Comanche not so much. They were themselves a cruel expansionist empire all their own.
The Comanche wish they were as feared as me! I’m yugely feared! Anyway, the 5-shooters and carbines immediately turned the tables. They would shoot with the long rifle and then pull their revolvers when they closed in. You can’t say they were hoping percussion cap muzzleloaders would flip the power dynamics.