First Contact: the Viking vs. Native American Battles
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Inside the Viking clash with Native Americans around 1000 AD. Leif Erikson reaches North America, and the Vikings who follow his expedition soon encounter locals, whom they later call “Skraeling.” In the land they know as Vinland, these Scandinavians meet the ancestors of the Dorset or Beothuk people. We sift through some of the myths surrounding these stories, examine the ruins at L’Anse Aux Meadows, and present the newest research on this history.
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Chiesa, Paolo. “Marckalada: The First Mention of America in the Mediterranean Area (c. 1340).” Terrae Incognitae, vol. 53, no. 2, 2021, pp. 88-106., doi.org/10.108....
Magnusson, Magnus, and Hermann Palsson. The Vinland Sagas. Penguin Books, 1965.
Metcalfe, Tom. “In Tree Rings and Radioactive Carbon, Signs of the Vikings in North America.” NBCNews.com, NBCUniversal News Group, 20 Oct. 2021, www.nbcnews.co....
Sigurðsson, Gísli. The Medieval Icelandic Saga and Oral Tradition: a Discourse on Method. Milman Parry Collection of Oral Literature, Harvard University, 2004.
Wallace, B. “The Norse in Newfoundland: L’Anse Aux Meadows and Vinland”. Newfoundland and Labrador Studies, vol. 19, no. 1, May 2005, journals.lib.u....
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According to my Chippewa relatives, their ancestors were constantly oppressed by the Iroquois -- until one winter when the Iroquois raiders didn't show up, so the Chippewa send scouts to find out why. They discovered that the Iroquois were busy fighting with odd-looking strangers, tall and pale people who had the use of strange gray metal. On the theory that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the Chippewa allied with the strangers and traded foods and furs with them -- and also sent them women, who then came home to raise their mixed-blood children, who tended to be taller and stronger than the average Chippewa at the time. The tall strangers stayed along the coastal lands until a plague reduced their numbers to less than who could maintain the settlement. And that is how my mother's family came to have archaic Scandinavian genes.
There must have been some kind of friendship...there are native American genes in Iceland.which means Wives were taken back. And I get a feeling it was a willing thing too.
Tribal history will always fascinate me
Lots of natives wanted to mix with the Aryan bloodline
Thanks for sharing nice
@@ShaneHerrick: That doesn't mean their oral history -- with mnemonic images -- is automatically false.
The world seemed so much bigger back then, so many untold stories and experiences. Man I love history.
Fax the Vikings and the natives are my favorite type of warriors
Born to late to explore the world and too early to explore space 😔
Globalization makes everything known, so the sense of mystery just dies out.
They couldn´t communicate live with the rest of the world simultaneously, a letter from a Mayan priest to a monk of the Tang dynasty wasn´t even possible. Or was it? In theory, but the journey would take months and be deadly.
@@deathinthedark5451 bro
Native Americans do have a lot of stories of fighting red- and blonde-haired giants with blue eyes, that carried iron weapons. There are even places where some of these "giants" were supposedly buried in a manner similar to a Norse Viking funeral. I think we need to accept at this point that yes, the Vikings were here long enough for stories about them to entire local narratives and stop dismissing these local tales as "colorful myths" like the Smithsonian and mainstream historians would have you believe. Native Americans aren't stupid they have thousands of years' worth of oral history in their stories people just have to be willing to listen.
Yeah it’s insane how fast we are to brush off ancient literature as myth or tales.
I don’t mean this argumentatively, but would it make sense for them to be described as “giant”, when northern native Americans-such as those that would be found in the waters navigated by the Vikings- were quite large themselves.
@@Shivelybanetek most likely the Vikings. Assuming numbers were comparable. Vikings had metal weapons and armor.
Imagine how much the Native Americans knew, all the history they witnessed. Unfortunate that it was destroyed by the Westerners colonising everything and erasing ancient cultures from the face of the Earth
@@Hungarianbuttbabyy there is only a select few Viking settlements in canada which says otherwise, just because we did not have iron weapons doesn’t mean we didn’t have any advanced warfare
A funny theory that recently popped up on this topic is that the natives were initially incredibley happy to drink milk. Yet Europeans are far less likely to suffer from lactose intolerance than other groups. This is important as the natives did not have centuries of lactose tolerance to rely on and thus had terrible indigestion. So the natives believed the Vikings had tried to poison them and had much resentment and tension when they tried to meet the vikings again.
Damn that's a hell of a way to start a fight. Giving the Natives the shits.
That’s interesting and makes sense. Especially if the natives took it back with them and drank it later letting it sit out a day or so.
@@helloidharbl6753 that’s honestly kind of funny.
“my tummy was hurting real bad last night, was yours?”
“yeah.”
“alright, fuck those guys.”
@@walkingolga6235lmao I’m dead asf😂
@user-vn8ps9eg3b 🤣🤣😂 Any evidence?😂
It's just crazy how adaptive vikings were. Literally going to foreign worlds with no problems... and just fighting everything...
Yeah I mean its easy when your weapons are just vastly superior
@@gabehuerta3025 Well there's that. But I meant, aside of North America, there were Vikings going into the middle east, europe, north africa.. and just fuckin everything up lol
True but im guessing it was a similar situation in those places too 😂
@@jaymata1218 yeah and got their ass beaten 😂 maybe should stop in Greenland
@HolgerDanske14 y’all loosing at your home right now
Unfortunately. It’s very bad but gotta admit
Let’s be honest, watching an actual fight between a band of Vikings and a tribe of Native American braves would be well worth the price of popcorn
make the movie
@@myproductions6225 I think a Tik Tok would be better because it’s 15 seconds long
That'll be cool haha! Still think the Vikings will have the edge due to metal weapons
@@carlosfurtado1164 but they didn't hence why they couldn't colonizer the americas. They weren't also disease and flea ridden like their spanish/anglo/african counterparts so they didn't have biological warfare on their side. It's why they got their asses kicked and were sent packing
@@carlosfurtado1164 but no projectiles...
Vikings: **give natives milk** 🌝
Natives: **are lactose intolerant and assume the Vikings tried to poison them**
**proceeds to attack the vikings**
Vikings: "This is fine. I'm okay with the events unfolding around me. 🌚"
Hahahaha xD gold
That's funny because my brother in law is Native American and lactose intolerant. He says it's pretty common among his people.
@@warpartyattheoutpost4987 yeah lactose intolerance is relatively common except in those of European, Central Asian, Middle eastern, and North African ancestry
@@Shack-lion well think about it a person with the worst lactose intolerance just drank milk for the first time he must have had a bad time .
@@Kanadabalsam not really
Wow, by coincidence, I've been watching a lot of Vinland Saga lately, so it was awesome to hear Thorfinn's name and "a land they called Vinland!" Great video, as always!
Don't forget leif erikson
They called Canada vinland! The Vikings landed in Newfoundland and Labrador!
Vinland Saga is so goated
I guess somewhat of a spoiler Vinland saga is currently in this arc.
You have no enemies.
It’s absolutely amazing how disease resistant the Vikings were. It allowed them to travel virtually anywhere
That situation goes two ways: If you travel a lot, you are more likely to have more overall resistances.
The people who spent a majority of their history in isolation, voluntary or not, are the most likely to get decimated by new diseases if the isolation is broken.
@@darthplagueis13 oh for sure. But it goes so much deeper then that because traveling a lot also exposes you to new diseases , toxic fauna and parasites the body has never seen before. They can be brought back to the host nations and spread like wildfire also. This never happened with the Vikings.
And they seemed to be altogether resistant to smallpox, cholera and other waterborn disease which have no “natural” resistances to them.
It seems as though they intentionally understand how to heighten their immune systems starting even as children. I think an in depth study into their diets and locations they used the bathroom (nasty) would show their stool samples were extremely out of the ordinary
@@darthplagueis13 and look at what the governments want now. Hand sanitizer and inside all doors.
@@yeomans9696 Well... The vikings didn't have hand sanitizer in the first place, so there wasn't much of a choice there.
Besides, there's the topic of population density: 20k people isn't considered much these days but would have been viewed as a large city in the 10th century.
Viral diseases today can spread at a rate that would not have been possible back then.
Also, funny thing about historical epidemics: On of the main reasons why they would spread is because people would try to flee from infected places and bring the diseases with them to new places. This effect was so devastating that even during a time when your average traveler crossed less than 20 miles every day, the black death still managed to infect pretty much all of europe, killing a third of the population. Just imagine the death toll if people in the 14th century had been able to cross the globe within just a day like we can today.
Not that global distribution is the main concern with Covid anymore, it's everywhere already. The main concern now is trying to not constantly let it re-ignite. As long as covid still spreads at absurd speeds it will just continue mutating, with new variants that previous immunities don't help against, further increasing infections and keeping the cycle going. That's what the hand sanitizer and stay-home orders boil down to: Trying to contain the spread enough that immunity can finally catch up with the disease, reducing the rate of infections and the odds of new mutations.
A good diet of Vitamin D from fish and fermented foods
This makes me remember that natives in my country (From South America), had stories passed from gen to gen and talked about "big white, sun-like hair and blue eyes like the sky" people that came in, what they described as boats. There are some restricted places, in the middle of some protected forests here, that has stones with what appears to be runes, carved in them.
Qué país?
@@craydussy A South American country. Says it in the comment
@@garethlloyd4346 ah i missed that. Thank you
Dónde? Nunca he oído eso. Besides, Vikings never came to South America.
@Abaloo Poo your great grandfather was racist
I imagine the discovery of America wasn't even that shocking to the Vikings, since they didn't feel theyve mapped the entire world at the time. They were just raiding an unknown foreign land for resources and that was all they needed to know. Amazing.
And There are still ancestors of celtic People in South America's Anden.
The Chachapoya
well vikings didnt just sail around to raid places. the scandinavians became 'vikings' in the year 793 because of the resistance they did to the threat christianity presented. the day scandinavians gathered to 'kill christianity by the root', was the day they became vikings. they sailed to england and killed monks, burned churches and stole whatever valuable there. this is the reason why people thought vikings just traveled to places and raided. Hårfagre gathered norway in 930 ish, and by the year 1000 norway was a christian country, thus ending the viking period.
For most of history vikings were actually primarily concerned with trade and offering mercenary work.
Part of what gave them the ”violent marauder” image was the romans’ view of them as ”unkempt savages” and their violent rejection of christianity coupled with a native religion that told them they could only reach paradise if they died fighting.
@@Woodfekker also the burning and raiding of churchs? dont act like vikings are some misunderstood innocent men.
@@Woodfekker the Viking Era started 200 years after the fall of Rome. Gauls and Vikings arent the same thing.
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Cool / skih
As someone who finished reading about a lot of this recently, its so amazing to see someone with this kind of passion making informative vids. Keep it up bro! Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels
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@Skip Mickmack He says that their ancestors were immigrants from Eurasia, but because America wasn't inhabited back then they became indigenous people - the first people to ever live in America. When Europeans came to New World they found humans that inhabited America from centuries. So when Europeans started settle in these areas they were immigrants, similar to native americans ancestors, but this doesn't gived them the native status. This also apply to Africans and Asians who came to Americas after the Europeans.
And sorry for my bad english.
@Skip Mickmack First off I didn't said anything about that being native entitles you to any land in any other way than just calling it your native land.
Second, I think you are using the wrong definition of the word "native". In this video the word "native" was used in anthropological/historical sense. This word has many definitions but I assume that this specific definition was used in this video, given to it's context.
According to Cambridge Dictionary one of the definitions of the word "native" is - "relating to the first people to live in an area".
Oxford Dictionary has similar definition.
And there's another definition that is applying to specifically Native Americans - "a member of one of the groups of people who were living in North and South America before Europeans arrived".
And there's also Oxford Dictionary definition similar to that.
Some words have their meanings that are scientifically established, because they are useful in these sciences. You cannot just change them, just because that doesn't make any sense to you.
Sorry for lack of the links to dictionaries, but TH-cam isn't allowing them in comments, my previous comments was deleted.
Its only a theory that they crossed a land bridge.
@Skip Mickmack First come, first served. Same as with any settlement in history.
Basic knowledge really. If you're first, you name it. If you name it, you are it.
What's with your negative view of native americans? Just wondering...
As a native American I expected cringe clicking on this video like any other video on natives meeting whites for the first time. Instead, I found a well told and detailed description of an encounter. Well done
Still mad about white people? Get over it.
I am Swedish and feared cringe too when I clicked. So many viking videos gets kind of romanticized somehow.
Vikings get romanticized somehow?
Native Americans weren’t saints, lol. They killed their own people in savage ways.
@@yostugotz5619 no ones a saint. Every race has done some fucked up shit to their own.
@kamelia, don’t talk to me.
I can’t get over how good you dudes are. Just amazing art and some of the best writing I’ve ever had the pleasure of hearing. I love how both of you paint a picture of your stories both visually and in your words.
@Skip Mickmack By that metric, all humans would be "Native Africans". It's all about time of inhabitance. The indigenous people of the Americas have lived there for tens of thousands of years, while people of European descent have only been there for a few hundred. While it's true that the modern people, of any race, that were born and raised on the continent are in all practicality equally as connected to the land as the indigenous people are - the latter are still referred to as the "Native Americans" out of respect and reverence for their unfathomably ancient roots in the land. Other terms, like "First Nations", or "Aboriginals", also carry this reverence - while terms like "American Indian" carry connotations of a culturally ignorant, centuries-old misconception.
@Skip Mickmack . Only not originally..only red people hunted prehistoric hairy elephants . 1492 is mainly when Europeans and Africans showed up buddy
@Skip Mickmack . Yeah..you like
@@fakeskyler2305 . Equally in ways only not all ways..the bones covered over for parking lots are red bones..not white..not black. ..ever
@@fakeskyler2305 You are subscribing to the evolutionary model to indicate that humans originated in Africa, but that is not factual, it is theory. Remember the fraud "Lucy"?
Probably already mentioned on here, but the film “Pathfinder” involves an abandoned Viking baby boy being adopted and raised by a Native tribe, and decides to stand and defend his adopted people from the returning Viking raiders when he grows into a young man. It didn’t do very well in theatres, but it’s worth a view
That kind of fiction feeds into the minds of idiots.
@@Bonzi_Buddy it's a movie, not a documentary. How many movies are true stories? And, even if they are, how accurate do you think Hollyweird ever is?
@@mikelundquist4596 My statement still stands. Fiction always feeds into the minds of idiots.
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Those "NCIS" agents on TV have killed more people than US soldiers whose job it is to kill ever has...maybe Adelbert F. Waldron III might edge them out but barely and as some of these seasons go on he will be surpassed if not already.
We get lectured to by these idiots too. Embarrassing.
I laugh when I see how many white guys are the bad guys in Chicago PD. Hollywood sucks.
The Vikings might not even been the first Europeans to reach North America. There were probably on stances of European sailors shipwrecked on North American shores who were assimilated into Native American cultural groups. Also, there arestories of Irish monks reaching the shores of North America during the Dark Ages.
@@anthonytroisi6682 zero proof of this. It would be accounted for in the haplogroup of native American descendants and they probably would have been exposed to smallpox, measles, influenza, etc. earlier.
Some could have had a one way ticket to NA but were not accepted into any tribe to which children were born.
Mormon church nonsense has some bs beliefs.
I just want to say that this topic has fascinated me for a very, very long time. I always wondered what the pre-Columbus Native Americans and Vikings actually did and thought of one another.
Exactly the same here
In short summary, the vikings thought of our ancestors as skraelings, aka wretched people. There was a time of peace and trading between the two, until they got tired of the killing of there people and drove the vikings out.
@@n8tive565 the British colony took over
@@executiveorder7146 that's uh, that's a pretty wide gap my man. 😅
@@kenobi3419 only, he says. 😅
The way some early viking settlers ended was so sad... Even if they had peaceful relations, no shield or sword can defend against hunger and cold.
My ancestors endured much living in Scandinavia, from before the old times all the way up to only a 100 years ago and for that I am grateful that we have it so well today. However it saddens me that so many moved from our land for it being to harsch and poor only to end up in a worse predicament
We didn't settle for long because of Freydis. If she hadn't murdered those two families we could be speaking some American Norse tongue.
Cool my people kidnapped there nabors and sacrifice them to the sun god and wore there skin like true Chad's 😎
@@takumifujiwara2951 The sun god is important to show your faith too and thank!
You are aztec
Some few years ago a Norse settlement site was found in the Hudson Valley near Minisceongo Creek. Could've been one of these places mentioned in the Sagas. It is believed about 30-100 people lived there, but only for a short time. “Many clues discovered on the site suggest that the Norse could have come into conflict with the indigenous people of the region. Besides the skeletons that were found, who were most likely killed in combat, the numerous remains of native American weapons found on the site suggest the colony suffered a large-scale attack by indigenous warriors,”. Sounds a lot like what the saga record describes.
Yo this is awesome. Do you have a link to an article about it I could read?
that "settlement" is a complete hoax and has been disproved for years, the southern most piece of evidence that there is is the Maine penny and that is most likely to come from Native American trade routes, or was a real coin planted in Maine by a young archeologist named Guy Mellgren in 1957, who originally thought the penny to be English.
The only proven Norse settlement is L'Anse aux Meadows and for the time being it will stay that way.
additionally, on this site there is no record of conflict and the settlement was abandoned very purposefully, suggesting they used the stop for a couple years to repair their boats and either went back to Greenland or ventured further south to a unknown location.
The video uses the Saga's as a suggestion that Leif or Erik had been on the location but the fact the settlement exists does not prove either character to have ever existed or any of the Saga's to contain true information about the Norse presence in Greenland
@@fpsfiziks560 the natives didn't have the IQ to develop weapons made of iron, Northern Germanic people ( Vikings) definitely went there
@@Иванпонимаете-г4ш it’s not that they didn’t have the iq you buffoon, they were behind in technology for a lot of reasons compared to their european/asian counterparts
@@richbandicoot IQ and race go hand and hand. Europeans had ti be creative because of the short growing season and long brutal winters, couldn't run around naked in northern Europe. Had to learn how to preserve foods, build shelter, clothing etc which is good eugenics because only the strongest survived
Facts over feelings.
The art, sound design, narration don't scream "1,000 views" this deserves at least 500,000
You must summon the algorithm gods for me
p.s. thanks!
@@HistoryDose We'll get the blood rituals prepared for you!
He successfully summoned the algorithm gods
Almost there
We almost there
Loved how you guys covered this topic that’s barely talked about. Also funny how they mutually saw each other as giants as time went on
Giants? Lol in Micmac history Vikings are just peoples on boat not giants whatsoever good warriors perhaps but they won and send them back to the ocean
Same in Erik the red tales micmacs are just called skrælingi I don’t think it means giant in anyway
LOL I looked it means “ugly men”
@@bobmorane2082 maybe watch the video before speaking
@@bobmorane2082 I thought it meant weakling
I'm Native American from Washington State and we know that our grandmother is mostly Scandinavian. In the late 1800's she was adopted into the tribe and she could speak the language, learned their basketry and beadwork. All we know is that she was a Red haired lady who assimilated into the tribe but we don't know how she got there.
during mid 1800's and early 1900's Swedish people began to emigrate to america in search for a better life. a fifth of swedens population around 1.3 million left their home, friends and even family. they could only bring with them what they could fit in a wooden chests (amerika koffert). if you are want to know more about what her life might have been like before you should look into life in scandinavia at that time and also read about the people that left for america.
That’s awesome,so much history in your blood,u must be very proud
Congrats on the growth man, must feel great!
Thanks! It’s really great to see this video go off!
Native Americans? You mean native North Americans I'm assuming? Technically they were Native Canadians
@@Roboticpycotic Technically no, a Native Canadian would just be a person born in the political state of Canada which has only existed for a few hundred years. "Native American" is not a confusing term at all and refers to any of the non-Europeans who settled on the landmass of America from the time of the previous ice age and on. You could spend all day trying to specifically identify a native American people... e.g. take one group... the Mdewakanton tribe of the Santee Division of the Dakota Indians of the Sioux people, and guess what these folks would have had a presence in the U.S. and Canada so what is the point of trying to pin them down as native to one modern country?
@@HistoryDose you keep saying thank you for an assignment that is biased and based on theory
There has to be a turd in every punch bowl. Why bother watching if you are just going to whine that it’s not accurate, lol. Nothing better to do with your life?
The story given of trading milk with the natives for furs differs from the version I have heard many times from several sources. The version I have always heard was that the natives, being lactose intolerant, became sick from ingesting the milk and concluded that the vikings attempted to poison them. They then returned and either wiped out the viking settlement or drove them off.
Well there were probably millions of natives living there at the time. Enough for tribes to go to war with each-other over resources. Here comes a boat full of settlers and it wouldn’t be difficult to imagine they were not welcome. Now imagine after the majority of the native population was killed off due to smallpox. The Europeans still had one heck of a time settling with natives living there.
@@RedTeufel The Vikings didn't bring smallpox to the Americas, the Spaniards did in the early 1500's.
@@richardstephens5570 I think you miss understood me. The Vikings could never settle North America because there was a very large population already there.
Philip Jens / Not that many Native Americans actually resided above the Rio Grande (border of Mexico and the US) only about 6 million at its peak, which is TINY considering how vast the US is. And most areas and villages probably weren’t densely populated, so I can’t say millions of natives exactly knew about the Vikings, and probably only a few thousand. The original comment actually makes a lot of sense, as most Natives didn’t seem very protective of their land or violent towards settlers. They likely didn’t trust them either though, and one mishap could set things off, such as supposedly attempting to poison them.
@@ajgerbi I think you have some facts wrong. It was absolutely settled in the coastal regions of North America. Millions of native Americans.
I remember learning this when I was younger. I always loved reading about Vikings, ancient times, and my favourite thing to learn is all types of mythology especially norse. On the side note great thumbnail ❤️👌🏼
Same i love it
I recognise your profile picture! 😁😁
@@octipuscrime wat is it?
read up on the NE tribes, especially the Iroqouis confederacy. youll be surprised how much in common vikings and N native americans had with each other in religion, justice, and social order.
that you "love it" is likely the reason it's not true
I just think it would have been absolutely nuts yet fascinating at the same time. That very first meeting. For both. Each warriors/survivors. One traveled more but they never knew what they were going to come across. Then each sees the other. Right there that "what the ......" moment.
I love these videos about historical instances where a warrior from one culture faces off against a warrior from a different culture. You’re mongol vs samurai video feels very similar to this one, and is one of my favorite videos on TH-cam. I would love to see more content like this video!
Not sure if you’ve seen it yet, but there’s a movie called Red Sun starring Charles Bronson and Toshiro Mifune and at some point in the film, there’s a fight scene between Toshiro’s character (a samurai) and a Native American warrior.
It’s rather brief, but still pretty cool + along the lines of what you’re describing
You're means you are. It's not the possessive your.
Except the norse here weren’t necessarily warriors just farmers and people looking for livable land. The battles would’ve gone much differently if they were actual vikings with mail armor and iron helmets. They were just normal people, in fact on of the most valiant people on the nord side was a regular woman who picked up a wood cutting axe and fought
One of my favorite history TH-camrs bro keep this content coming straight in my veins
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Cool to see you here BlackScape.
Black Goku!
@@HistoryDose Love your content man! You're super underrated
Oh damn haven't seen you in a long minute
If a more amassed group of Scandinavians would have shown up they may have stayed permanently. But 90 people scraping by just trying to Log, Hunt, and scrounge stood no chance against a group of Natives with excellent terrain knowledge and a foreign warfare tactic. Everyone should realize that Vikings had small populations and couldn’t afford to just send thousands of people to raid or pillage without consequences to the community.
Correct and unlike the legends it was mostly young men that went a víkingr and that has obvious down sides to the villages they come from when they start to lose
There's a theory the vikings would have done just that just as they had conquered Iceland, England, parts of France etc but shortly after they discovered America there was an ice age that made this very difficult and they were wiped out by natives and the cold.
Our ancestors "the frontiermen and land settlers" were all the minority and on their best behavior and wanted no business fighting the natives for the few hundred years they've closely around each other ... now the government that's a different story.
What rare you trying to say? Are you sad that these barbarians did not succeed in killing the natives? Yeah you'd be real happy if they succeeded. But when Adolf Hitler gives u a taste of your own medicine you get real defensive.
If it would Have been a few years earlier before Christianity was pushed on the Scandinavian people .Went from Going to Valhalla after Dying in the battle but you will Return after Feasting,Drinking their Golden Mead with the Gods .The Alfather Odin And The most popular War Gods of them all THOR ! To Christ peace and love is how you get into Heaven.If the Pagan Kings Would have Known about the indians continents and like the Conquistadors (mostly Blue Eyed Blond Spainish Explorers) heard rumors or thought there was Gold !!! The pagan Kings would have easly sent 10,000 plus to take it and all the rich land .Aztec indians were brutal warriors and the same people as the American indians that all came from CHINA .walked a cross the barren straits ice bridge Bout 12000 years ago .And was crushed by the Conquistadors all the sir names of South america are Spainish names . They were completey consumed. Vikings would have killed everyone...And way more Brutal than the Spaniards....Not to mention the BERSERKERS!!! The shock troops the Special Forces !!! They would have faced them first !!!!!
A shw was produced on the legendary history of the Vikings, following a specific character which branched off beautifully into the rest of their sagas, ending up at the first contact between Vikings and Native Americans, with Ubbe and Floki.
Why couldn't we have more of this beauty? Other parts of history? 5+ seasons, 50+ episdoes, years spanning. It would be beyond beautiful.
Nobody can replicate the success of Vikings.
That show is mostly fiction, if you want to learn about the vikings hitting North America then it's the vinland säga. But the new season leif erikson might be heading to North America, and the first viking King cnut will be killed, and replace by William 1, the great grandson of Duke Rollo of Normandy, him and Ragnar were born 100 years apart to.
I've read about this topic many times, but this was different and great and was like hearing about it for the first time. The art really captures the mind and takes you back in time. Great work.
My grandfather immigrated to America from Sweden when he was young. We have written history in our family of our Viking ancestors. Although they were brutal and invasive, they still progressed so much more than other civilizations at the time. I always love hearing about my ancestors history (even if it’s not always good things) keep up the amazing work!!
the vikings were extremely violent and brutal people kill first think later, thats why they didn't have civilisation like greeks and egyptians :)
@@solutions4968
That’s a common misconception. Vikings weren’t just mindless barbarians, they were traders and very skilled seafarers. That’s like saying that all the Greeks were homosexual femboys.
i wouldnt call it "progressed". vikings were nothing special, they were just another marauding group of lazy bandits that assaulted peaceful communities.
@@GodEmperorEnjoyer uh that’s not too far off for the Greeks
@@GodEmperorEnjoyer they were tho
As a native American. I think the Norse are pretty cool. They connect with nature pretty cool
We respect your people as well.
Hell yeah brother. That’s pretty cool
Rampaging and pillaging while leaving little of benefit is cool? The Romans and British actually left great benefits to the lands they occupied, which are still of benefit today. The Norse just killed and took.
if only you knew even as much as half of it.
sami people of northern scandinavia you should look into
I am always so amazed at the richness of these warrior cultures. It's hard to imagine the dedication it takes to explore. Thank you for sharing ❤
The art accompanying this is beautiful, the artist did quite excellent.
Do you know where can i find these arts ? please
@@pangopod2969 first of all, love the Templar waifu pfp, second, I'm not sure, sorry.
@@trenthobson2756 thx ^^ no problem
Great voice, tone, pace, riveting visuals, and such different and fascinating content. Thankful to have found you. Pls keep bringing us knowledge and histories that are being ignored by mainstream in favor of the same ol' same ol'. We can't get enough of these fresh stories. 💜
Your unique storytelling is unmatched in my opinion. Very precise, clear and rhythmic speech. I’m sure that you did not just wake up one day with that gift? Wishing you the best!
I just stumbled upon this while researching the Comanche.
Great content and excellent, evocative writing! Thanks very much.
Thanks! We have a video on the Comanche you should check out, too!
The "What if's" are always what makes history so interesting. Although there is no doubt that the vikings settled in North America for a brief period of time, it is fascinating to think about what actually happened during this period. Hopefully more discoveries will tell more interesting stories. First video i've watched from this channel. Really liking the artwork combined with the storytelling. Subscribed!
The only ones that scared off vikings for real, not only retaliated agaisnt them.
@@mercadonor natives didint scare them off kid
@@wesscott9621 thats what the video says tho
@@mercadonor The Vikings didn't come in large enough numbers to expand, and the natives they encountered didn't have gold and silver to steal.
@@richardstephens5570 true, so your saying that if they wanted they could have colonised north america? I can see that happening, tho not in central and south america. Down there, those were real empires, not just randoms groups
This is brilliantly narrated. Huge respect for bringing this story to life with suitably epic language.
Vikings was on another level back then. Much respect to the Nordic countries 🇩🇰🇳🇴🇸🇪. Awesome history
Now go look who had a hand in Russia , Kiev and Ukraine. Look for the Kievan Rus. Where did they come from?
none of them are a match for the germanen they are strongest rutless of the world even the roman empire hired them because they couldnt defeat them
@@jannah__ lol they were pathetic compared to vikings.
@@sundvallen vikings were germanics
@Lanne Russ was a finnish men from north sweden that belonged ti finnish people at that time
I'm actually super happy that I found this. My family and I always talk about tales and always talk about vikings and native americans. (My family is native btw). The similarities in like spiritualism such as shamans to our medicine women/men. The way we live off the land. It's just a different beliefs they have odin while we have creator. Plus we've had our feuds and battle but definitely not as much as vikings. Some natives even have obsidian knives which are incredibly sharp yet fragile. I don't want to dive to far into specifics for I do not know everything and want to respect both parties. Since for natives there's just not "Natives" There's many different tribes, and I don't know a whole lot about vikings but at least a little to pay respects.
We Scandinavians also had many clans. All with different crests, lineages, belief systems, survival tactics (ex. some were predominately raiders while others were more agricultural.) etc. I can definitely see the similarities between our cultures, especially when talking about those who lived in the far north. Majority pagan, very superstitious, with a close relationship to the land and the animals. Respekt til folket ditt fra Norge (Respect to your people from Norway).
as a Comanche this was so refreshing to read haitse.
@@thedeadhands6130 Comanche have some of my greatest respect. I spent many years learning archery, One of your people was in a competition I was in. He defeated everyone, some have been loosing arrows for their whole lives. Comanche horse riders rivaled Mongols in their skill, much respect. If your raiders and our warriors made a pact, we would have taken the continent.
@@thedeadhands6130 Comanche wow. Thats cool. When i went to law school here in Norway i used to spend an extra hour at the library reading stories about my ancistors the vikings. But i have always been fascinated by the stories about the native american tribes. Their freedom, bravery and great culture. And one day at the university library i found an article describing those meetings between my viking ancistors and native americans. According to the article the story amongst those vikings said that those natives were the hardest warriors they had ever met. I like to believe that they got that mutual respect for eachother like great warriors do. By the way, one of our famous viking kings, Harald Hårfagre (Hairfair), married a sami-women and got three children with her. The sami people is a native people, located in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia.
I think you should read about Tengrist nomads of Asia too. We Turks descend from them but native americans departed from the group probably LONG before Tengrism was even a thing. It's a Father Sky , Mother Earth type of faith where people believed EVERY thing had a soul. There were white kam who spoke to "good" souls and black kam who spoke to "evil" souls. Although that is not good and evil as we know it from the standards of Abrahamic religions. The tribes also lived off the land with massive herds that they relocated accordingly through the year.
The only truly major difference i see between my ancestors and native americans is how my ancestors had to be in contact with various settled peoples and their empires , thus making it necessary for the tribes to come together under one Khagan from time to time ; to resist colonization and raid their territories in return. This dynamic probably made them a lot more war-like than the isolated native americans. But when i read about native americans (north americans) all i could think of was how the culture seemed very similar to our ancestors from the steppes. And the group wich formed these steppe peoples is the same group wich split , with some of them going to America while some of them stayed in Asia and went south.
Cheers and respect from Turkey.
being a full blooded ojibwe and edewa native, (bottom of east canada) and its good to see a video of scarce talking about indigenous people
Vikings were definitely in Maine, and Western Maine as well, there's a cross etched into a rock on the southern coast of Maine
Incredible channel. From the art style to the narration to the sound design. Everything's perfect!
This is an absolutely excellent and extremely valuable video. I've also had a deep interest in the history of Vikings in the Americas and being that I am writing a research paper on this topic this video helps a lot.
Great to hear. Be sure to check out the sources in the description for further reading.
@@HistoryDose Thanks History Dose! checking now
Some stories I heard as a kid from relatives and Mohawks from Akwesasne [Old St. Regis] tell of other people being here who were not Native Americans... They dated everything from Columbus 1492. Thus it is an accurate dating of events. They speak of a battle near Albany in which the "invaders from the south" got wiped out and their city burned and leveled to nothing left to see.. This was dated 700 years before Columbus which would make it 792 AD., which is 3 years after the Danish Viking raid in Dorset, England.
So were they vikings?
I hate to be a dick but you can Not date stories passed down only by way of mouth.
@@wolfereignowns1154 The Bible old testament was orally transmitted for hundreds of not thousands of years before being written; it's chronology matches archaeological evidence for dates . The New Testament was orally transmitted for 40 year before written down. You cannot prove a negative. The Iroquois can date everything to the Dutch 1609 in oral tradition also.
@@wolfereignowns1154 Herodotus heard the Egyptian priest give oral tradition of dates of Atlantis.
@@wolfereignowns1154 Hawaiians date their arrival in the islands by oral tradition.
Only a minute in and I already have chills running down my back. Incredible!
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This was pretty good. I obviously clicked on it to read about a piece of my culture, I'm half First Nation Ojibway, here in Ontario Canada. You seem into more Viking history just judging off this video and the recommended videos of yours in the bar, which is great I'm always interested in hear about that too because I'm also quarter British and Irish. Which England/ Europe played a big role with Viking history. I wouldn't mind you delving a bit into Native American history though, it's fascinating and can be as brutal as Viking history, since we Natives were considered Pegan to the Chruch as well. Anyways keep up the good work this was good. Just wish there was more you know
Thanks. I actually think it’s a tie at the moment! In addition to this video, I think I have one video centered on Vikings and one centered on Native Americans (of the Great Plains). I’d love to cover more, though!
I think the Ojibwe story of the Grandfathers and irredescent beings which founded the clans of the Anishnaabe are the Native American version of the meeting the Vikings from the Icelandic sagas.
I lived in Michigan as a kid and we have a park or shall I say an island that is named obj away island . They said it’s for the natives that lived there years ago and also there’s another one called crow island. Suppose to been where a major fight. Happened. I never looked into this I probably need to.
@@garyjimenez3690 that sounds very interesting I've never heard of that. Ojibway/ Anishinaabe are ONE of the most common tribe so I'm also not surprised. I've now made a half Inuk, quarter Ojibway, 6th British, and 6th Irish baby boy who will be 2 soon. So he's more native than I am. He's Inuit as well which I find to be amazing. These two similar but completely different cultures are blending here
I love your storytelling! You’re very talented!
Story telling is an accurate description here
Show me the data from who how much people wrote or write it down what of its all a hoax like santa 🎅
Crazy how well researched Vinland saga is
Being of Native American (Shawnee), Scottish, and Scandinavian ancestry, I find this very, very interesting!!
I'm Beothuk ;) at least my family thinks so. Its hard to prove.
i'd love to see more content like this on youtube about first encounters between natives and other civilizations, great video!!
love this channel, I'm a Mi'kmaq and i always wonder if the Vikings and my people ever interloped or fought before the traditional belief of first contact in the 1600s/1500s
Morgan Milliea how are you? I was actually in the comments section when I came across your comment here so I was thrilled to say Hi to you 😊....hope you're fine and staying safe?
When Vikings encountered natives they were in awe that the natives were fighting without armor. It reminded the Vikings of their origins, they respected the natives so much that they too went back to wearing no armor again when they returned to Europe. Enemies at first, allies in the end, learning from one another.
But the native Americans would have been wearing armor by this time
@@willfakaroni5808 nope, I’m 80% sure of this. There were other native nations that had wooden armour though! Haida and Tlingit to name some
@@7HVND3R the Natives the Norse encountered were the Beothuk, the Beothuk wore wooden armor, as is visible on their depiction on the Newfoundland coat of arms
That’s just totally false Vikings did not stop wearing armor because natives didn’t wear it. They would never stand a chance at European battlefields without it. If they didn’t wear armor it was to be light not out of respect of natives. And most Vikings would never know the natives ever existed. The Viking age actually specifically ended because in the last deceive battle over the throne of England they were caught of guard and didn’t get time to put on their armor which is why they lost.
BRUH WAT. The title alone left me shook.
Very good video. I love how theories from different areas of science coincide and strengthen each other. The era in which the Vikings visited was in the mid evil warming period, when it was a much warmer northern hemisphere than today. They were frozen out of Greenland as temps dropped heading into the little ice age and made the journey from Scandinavia too far
Personally, I think they did more of another kind of F-Verbing than fighting, which is why I'm, like, 1/32 Danish and why Natives and Scandinavians STILL get along so well.
What an absolute gem of a channel - accidentally stumbled across you and insta-subbed. Keep up the awesome work man!
I can't believe I've just discovered this channel because this video is great. The writing is absolutely phenomenal, great job.
Btw There are still ancestors of celtic People in South America's Anden.
The Chachapoya
As a Dane this was a very exciting history lessons one of the best i have ever had! we should definitely try to roleplay how a battle would be
roleplay are for degenerates as sone as someone mentions RP in comment fields it turns into a demonc orgie of some sort so no please dont. But i can give you an idea.
Imagine small men with stone weapons facing off against large men in chainmail, helmets, shields and iron weapons. and much stronger bows with iron tipped arrows...
if you think in a sens of realism. its to brutal and unfair towards the Skrälingar. its basicly like playing a game with cheat mods.
But ofcoarse you want to imagine the mindless slaugher you are a Dane xD
It really seems like the primary reason why the Norse couldn't settle in North America was simply the language barrier. I'd also add the cultural differences. It also didn't help that they were so far away from the larger and more prosperous settlements back east in Iceland and Scandinavia, and were essentially forced to try and make friends with the locals.
15,000 years of independent evolution in different environments meant they legitimately could not talk to each other. They hadn't shared a root language for thousands of years.
And their cultures were wildly different. I don't think the natives realized that the Norse would be so hostile to someone touching their shiny blades. And the Norse couldn't have know that the natives would be so violently lactose intolerant, so trading milk was not a good idea. You can't just give milk and cheese to a group of people who have never seen a cow before.
I'd wager if the two sides could understand each other, things would have been significantly different. As the Norse were not mindless brutes with an insatiable bloodlust as some pop culture would have us believe. And more than like the companies that followed Leif, Thorvald, and Thorfinn were not war parties, but rather equal parts men, women, and children trying to build a community of their own. Not unlike the colonist who would establish Jamestown and Plymouth centuries later.
I think your supposition fails with the language/culture argument. Cristóbal Colón's first voyage has one crew member who had a working knowledge of latin, greek and Arabic, yet his log entries of his 1st voyage did not indicate communication issues with the Taíno. Perhaps the Viking failure could suggest that they didn't have longterm plans or goals. The Spanish expedition had a firm goal; find an alternate route that would bypass the inflated costs of doing commerce with southern and east Asia, and therefore bypass the Ottomans. So the Spanish mandate required opening communication with whomever they met.
@@Ramon51650 Just because one voyage went well without supposed communication issues does not mean the same for this instance as unlike Colón' I doubt the had member who were linguists as most came from Greenland which is mostly isolated.
"15,000 years of independent evolution in different environments meant they legitimately could not talk to each other". That's alot of bs. The reality is that we don't know alot that went on between them. But what we do know in simplest terms, is that one side was pagan crazies and the other side was pagan crazies. That's not exactly a recipe for proper communication.
@@thecensoredmuscle563 that would be true if the Vikings landed and started pillaging everything like they did in England only to leave in the fall and return in the spring. Here they actually tried to settle down
I believe that they ran into a race of people perhaps more warlike than themselves. Add that to the fact that they found no cities to raid and pillage and little unoccupied land on which to settle.
I feel like race gets involved a lot when the entire point is that we grew ignorant because we split apart.
0:53 I’d love to see more video on ice age items and native stories of these animals.
I just have to say this is the most stirring and entertaining narration for historical TH-cam documentary I have ever heard. Went to subscribe and realized I am already subscribed. Thank you for putting such detail and work into your words. You should be getting paid by Discovery channel for this level of effort.
such an under appreciated channel. keep up the great work. this is quickly becoming my favorite channel
When discovering a grave field outside the monastery in Sigtuna, the buried men had a average length of about 180cm. That is about 20cm longer than somebody said in the comments below. Inside the walls of the monastery the people buried were short, had a lot of diseases and malformations.
Beautiful artwork, excellent narration!
The Vikings had a lot riding against them when they reached America, compound that by trying to fight locals on their own turf that almost seems alien in terms of size and unique geography, what other Europeans had as an advantage against the Vikings was just sheer perseverance and numbers over time.
And an aggressive microbiology
@@tobypizot1255 so did the norse. and some native american tribes…
Isn't that the advantage that the native tribes also had?
Well said, it took em few hundred years though! Main thing they had was communication, the ability to send someone back or return with information helped them better prepare and utilise the resources and technology necessary. Vikings were tough but unprepared, and probably kept underestimating like general Custer
@@tobypizot1255 Something to consider is that even after European plagues and diseases decimated a decent chunk of the indigenous population, that during the frontier era, the Numunuu (comanche) singlehandedly repelled the Spanish and Mexicans on their own.
2:38 Thorfinn found the Vinland!
Your artstyle is amazing. The narrators voice suits the storytelling. Just stambled upon you on this site and subscribed. Great work, keep it up! :D
If only my history classes had been this interesting. Great video.
I totally enjoyed this history lesson. The Vikings vs the Native Americans. I often wondered how these strong and capable aries fared when they met face to face. Excellent!!
Man history dose your production is amazing something you see on Netflix great story telling
This has been a topic of serious interest to me for a long time.
I think we should be able to find repurposed weapons and tools but havent. In speaking with a historical weapons expert and he said he didnt think anything like that would happen.
Would love to hear other opinions.
I would imagine the natives would have scavenged weapons, armor, or tools if they could. But would've had no idea how to create or maintain them. Iron rust away easily enough, and it was almost 1,000 years ago.
@@chad3779 That is very true.
I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you mean. Did you mean that the historical weapons expert thought that we shouldn't be able to find repurposed tools and weapons, while you think we should?
In any case, I think it would require enormous luck to find any such objects. There were less than a hundred Viking settlers (it seems) and it was a thousand years ago. If the Native Americans got their hands on some iron weapons or tools, which they might have not considering they lost the battle (the Vikings left instead of being killed), they would've been very valuable trophies and could've ended up anywhere on the continent through trade or looting.
@@janbo8331 No, you got it.
@@chad3779 not true, we have so many well preserved viking era swords and axes, we don't have armor because vikings didn't really have it. some wore helmets but there are very few from the viking era though we have plenty from that area dating to periods previous and the lack of helmets could most likely be attributed to the iron being repurposed.
So as a Canadian I just want to say that Newfoundland is not pronounced “New-Finland”. It’s “Newfin-land” with a heavy pronunciation of “land”.
And do you pronounce Deutschland “Doytch land”, or do you pronounce it “Germany”???
@@mountainguyed67 depends on the mood
@@mountainguyed67 Krauthausen
@@causti9744 Ha!
My point is that other countries have their own way of saying things.
We've been here longer than they want you to know.
it would've been so interesting to be a person in that era hearing stories and narratives about legendary heroes, stories of giants and old legendary creatures and lands unexplored discovering the Americas must've been like a blessing from god
I love the hidden History of the world. History that's as if not more interesting than mainstream history that we learn either from schools or on our own
A story lives in my family of the first Barrett who was from Cornwall and signed up with the British to fight the Americans. He promptly got captured, put in prison and escaped to get together with an Indian maiden to start the family. A lot of Iriquois and Mohawk people have Norse features- square jaw etc.
Cornish are brittonic Celtic blood. But if you go back far enough Germanic blood and Celt gaul blood is all the same.
You have alot of learning left to do though because you don't seem to understand much about this history.
As an Oklahoman, I’d say the Native Americans and their cultures are some of the most interesting and intelligent people I have ever met. Their honor and their love for everything real is something to behold. Unfortunately some of them have fallen victim to using or alcoholism and gang violence. We could all learn from them if we just listened
The natives spoken about in this video, the beothuks, are literally presumed extinct. One of only two races in the entire world to ever be considered as such.
"fallen victim" lolol yeah no one had anything to do with it, just personal responsibility there
Are you being sarcastic?
@@jimtams
Vikings history is amazing to learn about. Especially because the view most people have of Vikings (mostly because of Hollywood and such) is far from the truth. So, for anyone interested in a history lesson keep reading ;)))
Vikings were not savages. They were actually a lot cleaner than anglo-saxons and other Christian communities at the time. Every person in the Norse/Danish culture washed themselves almost every day, while in the Saxon community this was only true for royalties such as kings, queens and thegns.
Most importantly, Vikings were not necessarily bloodthirsty. They simply raided to survive, because it was very hard to grow crops in their own lands and there were barely any raw materials in the ground that they could reach. The kills they made were not for them, but for their gods.
An equally big reason why Vikings raided was. Because they were curious about other lands. There are of course accounts of vikings reaching the mediterranian. For example, Spain (which was the first time vikings encountered muslims), Italy and Greece. Also they reached Northern Africa and made friends there that led them deeper into the desert. And of course Vikings also reached England, Scotland, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, North-America and Russia.
It is safe to say that Vikings were a fascinating people. Probably a lot of you already know all of this, but for those that don't but were interested thank you for reading!!! Have a nice day!
Now can you talk about the natives?
The were also savages
thats a bold faced lie. most of medieval europe, even the poorest peasants, bathed at least twice a week. and that is consistent across all europe. it is a myth that they were "unwashed peasants" or what have you. in fact durring the peak viking period most europeans were still regularly using the existing roman bath house infrastructure.
it is true however, that much later during the renaissance (early 1500s) that europeans largely stopped bathing regularly, because they falsely deduced that bath houses spread the black death. the correlation being that a communal area where lots of people gathered it just happened to spread more often. without knowledge of micro biology the logic is there however wrong it actually was.
Firstly, they bathed just as often as anyone in Europe. In Europe, poor peasants bathed at least once or twice a week. More if they lived by a river. They didn't just lose the idea of bath houses that the Romans established.
Secondly, the explorers of North America were likely already Christianized.
There’s a great expose on TH-cam about the Oak island mystery where he uses very convincing deductions to argue the “money pit” is actually a buried Viking longship. Fascinating stuff
WELL SAID MY FRIEND !!!
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE IT WAS A SHIP !!!
BUT WHAT DO I KNOW ???
EVEN THO I HAVE A HEAD FULL OF USELESS FACTS !!!
They're both an amazing culture, both very spiritual and spiritual in very similar ways.
Yes i just wish they'd got to become mutual partners unfortunate
two pagan people doing crazy stuff.
Ur one of the few person who isn't out right fkn racist and a supporter of genocide, respect my friend
Imagine how much more chaotic it would have been if Europeans tried to invade the Americas at this time rather than later on.
Native Americans would have still faced mass disease, but the European medicines would haven't faired well from American diseases at this time. Not to mention, the more even technology among the two different worlds. Sure Europeans had metal weapons and armor, but it was less advanced and they had no firearms either.
It's disease that spoils it all for the natives. There's no getting around it...90-95% of natives died from disease within the first few decades of contact. Had disease not obliterated the native population, they could have held off encroachment from ships, who have the huge disadvantage of having to cross an ocean (obviously not as far for the Vikings), and the natives would have been able to hold off any significant settlements for hundreds of years all while learning European metallurgy, and the use of iron. They would have had time to advance technology/ship building/weapons and their culture may have also adapted. After a few hundred years, natives might have been the ones to sail to Europe and explore them. Who knows...
I'm a Mi'kmaq man, and newfoundland stood as a part of mi'kmaqi in those days. We have oral tradition that suggests that there was no conflict at least by Lief Erikson himself, Our understanding has always been we traded with lief Erikson and they had a lumber Port in Newfoundland. They may have had conflicts with other tribes.
Isn't there hardly any Mi'kmaq left
@@ryanwoods8725 our nation is about 60,000 strong, also what's that matter?
You never hear the name Mi'kmaq this is the only the second time I've ever heard that is all
@@ryanwoods8725 learn about our history or don't, but we aren't this extinct species you seem to believe
Man my bad this went way south I meant no disrespect by no means
Vinland Thanksgiving was, believe or not, far more bloody than the Plymouth Thanksgiving.
Where it took the settlers at Plymouth 50 years to go to war with the natives, the Vikings went to war in a few months.
vikings were warriors, the wnglish were persecuted relgious sects
@@guzelataroach4450 The Vikings at this time were less violent than they used to be. Still prone to looting during war, but what soldiers weren't, right? And they loved trading. Found it more appealing and profitable than raiding.
The "pilgrims" of Plymouth were very persecutorial themselves. They were so unbearably hateful of all others that even the puritans didn't like them, who they split from. They were pretty scummy. So the king of England kicked them out to the Netherlands. The Netherlands were a bit more tolerant of religious differences. But the pilgrims thought that was cringe so they left for the new world, intending to make it to Jamestown, Virginia, which they missed and ended up in Massachusetts.
If it weren't for the starvation, disease, and frostbite, they'd have went to war with the natives a lot sooner, but they were pretty desperate. Also they only had like 20 or 30 people left out of the 200 or so they came with. That's not a lot of people who could fight a war.
The pilgrims had an interpreter
@@walnzell9328 Story of King Philip or King Philip's war, who actually attacked the Pilgrims and the colonies of Plymouth Rock after 50 years of peace coexist with NA tribes in the area! So Plymouth Rock colony just didn't go to war, it was attacked! LOL.............
@@walnzell9328 you added a huge narrative that you pulled out of your backside.
When the world was our universe. Every ocean a mystery, every landmass full of new dangers.
I love stories and history like this!
My mothers side of the family is Oneida nation. My fathers side is Scandanavian. This struggle to co-exist lives inside me every day.
pressing x to doubt any of that.
Native American Indians used unconventional warfare when it came to fighting kinda like gorilla warfare of today . They would ambush groups of people , hiding in cover in groups using long range weapons first then running full speed at there enemies with war clubs , knifes & tomahawks to finish off the rest . They were not savages like people portrayed them as . Most people think that when native American Indians use to scalp people that they would take a big chunk of scalp , some did but most of them would only take a section of scalp in the front of the head only as big as a quarter or a 25 cent piece . The reason they only took a small piece was because after a wile a big piece would start to stink & rot . The reason for scalping was to let there enemies soul leave there body & go to the great Beyond , if they didn’t scalp you it was because they wanted your soul to remain trapped in there enemies body like a form of hell , not letting your soul go to the Great Beyond . That’s why General Custer was not scalped .
They also weren't stupid. They almost certainly realized very quickly that all that shiny iron meant nothing when the people holding that shiny iron were isolated, had a finite number of people (with no help coming for them) and a finite amount of resources. To succeed they could almost *lazily* siege the Norsemen, a little ambush here, a little snatch-and-grab there, a quick skirmish. The natives may only have had stone age weapons, but they had all of the manpower, all of the resources, knew all of the terrain and (unpopular, but true) had honed killing and enslaving each other to a fine art by the time the Scandinavian explorers showed up. If I had to bet on a side in that match-up before the results, I'd bet Native, hands down.
When the rest of Europe showed up, the Native Americans were already suffering from a plague that had killed off a LOT of them. Possibly something from South America, nobody seems to know but that IS a known fact recorded by multiple sources. Also the Europeans by that time had a much more streamlined means of travel and trade networks, even better technology, and their own resources / manpower were likewise nigh limitless so long as they wished to push the issue.
@@SoulSoundMuisc yup & by the time of the French/ Indian war they had conventional firepower & tools made of metal instead of stone which really up there game .
@@SoulSoundMuisc , Pretty sure the Plague was called Syphilis and Smallpox. And it only started when the European’s showed up in numbers.
@@A-PatrioT incorrect. It is well documented in the aural histories of the natives themselves that they had suffered through one PRIOR to European arrival. They were just coming out of those troubles when Europeans arrived and got hit with that stuff.
Also, Syphilis is a body fluid contact pathogen, which are not generally easily transmissable. Did it play an impact? Yes. Was it among the top 3? No.
@@robertlee8400 indeed. That was some terrifically hard fighting for the Europeans. The French & Indian War is often overlooked, but it was terribly brutal.
good video
hits different if you read and watched Vinland Saga
The oral history of the Norwegians ,that first settled Iceland,
suggest they traveled much further south.My father told me a story about the explorers repairing the hull of their ship near Cape Cod.
Considering that they were some of the best seafaring peoples of the era, I would find it ridiculous to think that once they made landfall they would not explore the coast (at the very least, and probably many of the rivers). How far south they made it, who can say. Virginia? Georgia? Who's to say they didn't make it to Louisiana? The idea that they landed in one place and just decided to weld themselves to that single location is laughable. I think your father was almost certainly correct.
I'm not saying they did make it to those places, but to throw the idea away out of hand, never to be considered by anyone in the "archeological community" (cult, with a vested interest in making sure their books and ideas remain the only ones allowed to be spoken of) is sloppy science at best and malicious omission at worst.
@@SoulSoundMuisc Agreed! We smelled some food being prepared and some music and we invited ourselves. Ha
My grandfather told me of this too!!! Apparently they made it to Chatham.
Native Americans were unbelievably efficient warriors. So many stories of them overcoming insurmountable odds against vastly technologically superior enemies. Perhaps the greatest warriors to ever live. Right alongside the Zulu Impi!
I wonder how Vinland saga is going to differ from this telling of the story
Have you only seen the anime or have you read the manga?
If you have read it, I can give some answers to your questions though they would be mild spoilers as the manga is currently at the part where they have met the natives.
First contact never ends well for either side.
God this was very exciting to watch and listening to. You guys did an incredible job. Subscribed
Extremely well written! Excellent work!
Newfoundland is really rich with history and beauty, wouldn’t wanna live anywhere else
Playing AC Valhalla got me into learning more about the viking invasion of England and wanting to know more about their trips to the "New world ". Pretty neat stuff. Great vid.
Seeing the Viking sites in RDR2 got me intrested in Finding out If Natives and Vikings actually Fought. Vahalla was also pretty cool to see the Vikings in England.
@@John-996 I'm lame I never got to RDR2 :S regrets. But those stories are what I wished I learned growing up