Half the countries don't even have anything nearly comparable to this for CAS. Probably the only country that can compare is USA. Like Germany's best CAS aircraft at top tier is the 11.3 Tornado with GBUs, and that's it. Russia has the best CAS and the best SPAA. What gives? Shit is not fun at all to play against and the point of a game is to be fun.
@@ILikeTuwtles That is not even close, half the nations have fire and forget missiles and F16s and Grippens are faster and more maneveurable than this thing. Russia isn't even top 3
@@Samuel9 Half the nations have fire and forget missiles with 10-13km range at the most except for the AGM-65H that only Gripens get. So if you want to die to a Pantsir well before you are able to get within the range of using your missiles then go for it. The AGM-65H is cool if you want to play Sweden but in the current meta British and French ground are not competitive at top tier, which is why nobody is playing them. Another thing to consider is that Russia/Chinese helicopters all have longer range ATGMs than all NATO ATGMs which puts them very close to the max range, and in some cases even outside the range of some nations top tier SPAA, while any NATO helicopter will always be well within range of Russian or Chinese SPAA. Saying Russia isn't even top 3 is pure copium, because Russia is easily in the top 3, and very clearly number 1 when you pair CAS capability with SPAA capability.
@@Samuel9 broooooooooo. Best CAS Best Light Tank Best SPAA Broken ERA None Spalling damage models Artificial buffs Best BVR missile Etc etc. And you say russia is not on top? You got mad skill issues bro
I really appreciate that you narrate your own game play. It's like watching eye tracker gameplay but for your brain. I love the insight into your play style, what opportunities to take, or pass up. Great content bro
I dunno if this was needed, "atleast they can say we're finished with the Su-25 series" There is only one earlier SU-25SM but its pretty much like the Su-25BM i dont see them adding it, now we can finally hope they are going for SU-24 and then Su-34.
@theflyinggasmask with its speed like already of A-10A late vs the 11.0 to 11.7 Su-25s RN it would probably be 11.0 or 11.3 with 9M and a lot better systems and weapons
@@sniper321firebro what? even if that remotely makes sense, you’re claiming a lower br on the a10 with better “systems and weapons” lmao, which would also go against every american main’s claim of russian bias… bros actually schizo
@@wongarnold2879 then Why put it in the first place if they are going for “game balance”? 2S6 is basically an ADATS. Israel and japan doesn’t even have a proper radar guided SPAA that has atleast 10km missile range and they decide to give russia an 18km range spaa?
@@wongarnold2879 the best CAS jet now is the SU25SM3. The problem is, the only spaa that can rival its missile range is the Pantsir. Both are in russia. That’s the problem with balance. You place the best spaa and cas together in one nation instead of giving another nation a better spaa like italy, japan, or israel. That’s why there is bias.
It's good to know that the urrs finally got a jet comparable to the F16C with 6 x AGM64D that track moving targets at 11km + 2 GBU-24 with 500kg each one, and the amazing flight performance of the f16 that helps it when you wanna evade sam missiles 😉
@@Luisasophie163 yeah seems like you haven't seen a f16c dropping 6 mavericks 11km away and getting six kill instant while you CAN'T KILL IT, the same shit is this but with less missiles, Cope harder!
Lol it’s crazy Gaijin added this missile on this Su25. According to some findings on the internet it looks like the only launch platforms are the Su34, Su57 and the Ka52K. This is stupid that they added it this early to the game considering how advanced these aircraft that can use this are. Should not of been added since Russia also has the longest range SPAA and the only real counter to this is a fighter that can intercept and shoot down the Su25 because it has a 40km launch range. Absolutely absurd. Also to note another fact if they want to add something like this to the game where it definitely doesn’t need to be added,then there’s no reason why they can’t give other vehicles other ammunition i.e M829A3 to the Abram’s for example, Hellfire L for the Apaches. But you know it’s not like these vehicles didn’t use them or any thing, when they actually do use them. It’s total bullshit that Gaijin is gonna sit there and say “oh these hellfires don’t need to be added , or M829A3 doesn’t need to be added to the game” because they don’t see it as a necessary add. Even though it was designed to pass through contact 5 ERA having upwards to 720mm of penetration. But then again here they go adding the Obj. 292 to Russia where it has 695mm pen. Again Russian bias. You’re cooked if you think it isn’t.
@@Ecipse-hr5nkexcept the issue is not necessarily bias but that there are no SPAA that can really be added to counter these. Patriot is 80km at its shortest range variant, and you and I both know how amazingly effective that system is.
I dont play realistic battles but it would still be cool if the US could get some newer and better A-10's aswell. Its always the russians that get the good stuff.
@@wongarnold2879 Bro, its not about better CAS planes. Russia also has better planes for that than the SU 25. Its about SU25 vs A10, they are equally on the same level.
"Its always the russians that get the good stuff" *Also this being the first time in fucking ages where the russians have a better plane and thats only because of 1 missile and getting thermals that the us had for years*
Not so much just go to sim battle and unlock first the maw. Its 11.7 and this means he cant go fight against 12.0-12.7 jet. Usually at his br you will fight against f4, tornado, mig23 and other under the 12.0.
4:54 yeah this guy is right... Cas gameplay at top tier is no fun for ground units and not really fun for the actual cas player either if played optimally... :/ it's just frustrating and boring
I noticed u launch missiles from 13k or 14k max range but i kept wondering why sont u launch from 16k away? I always launch from minimum like bare minimum 15k away and by the time im 10km from the battlefield the missile already reached the target meanwhile i see u getting 5km away and its so uneccesery
Farming though really. Where's 'the game' in that. Against bots fine, against other people not so much. Against hackers it might be a thing if Gaijin would highlight the hackers so you could farm them. Not very impressive gameplay in my opinion. Not attacking you just think the whole thing is shitsville.
Oh yeah nah, because we've got an spaa that is reasonably good at dealing with long range targets, can track multiple at once and is OP, oh, wait...
Rip its su25sm3☠️☠️ 40km
The tor-m1?
Su-25SM3's thermal camera is very good. Now I can see that damn Flarakrad.
why are people complaining about the SM3 all of a sudden? the SU-25T was already doing the things that the SM3 is doing now for a while now.
Half the countries don't even have anything nearly comparable to this for CAS. Probably the only country that can compare is USA. Like Germany's best CAS aircraft at top tier is the 11.3 Tornado with GBUs, and that's it. Russia has the best CAS and the best SPAA. What gives? Shit is not fun at all to play against and the point of a game is to be fun.
@@ILikeTuwtles That is not even close, half the nations have fire and forget missiles and F16s and Grippens are faster and more maneveurable than this thing. Russia isn't even top 3
@@Samuel9 Half the nations have fire and forget missiles with 10-13km range at the most except for the AGM-65H that only Gripens get. So if you want to die to a Pantsir well before you are able to get within the range of using your missiles then go for it. The AGM-65H is cool if you want to play Sweden but in the current meta British and French ground are not competitive at top tier, which is why nobody is playing them. Another thing to consider is that Russia/Chinese helicopters all have longer range ATGMs than all NATO ATGMs which puts them very close to the max range, and in some cases even outside the range of some nations top tier SPAA, while any NATO helicopter will always be well within range of Russian or Chinese SPAA. Saying Russia isn't even top 3 is pure copium, because Russia is easily in the top 3, and very clearly number 1 when you pair CAS capability with SPAA capability.
@@Samuel9 broooooooooo.
Best CAS
Best Light Tank
Best SPAA
Broken ERA
None Spalling damage models
Artificial buffs
Best BVR missile
Etc etc.
And you say russia is not on top? You got mad skill issues bro
@@Samuel9 Except those planes are gonna get shot down by the Pantyr and mavericks aren't as deadly or long ranged as the Kh
I really appreciate that you narrate your own game play. It's like watching eye tracker gameplay but for your brain. I love the insight into your play style, what opportunities to take, or pass up. Great content bro
I dunno if this was needed, "atleast they can say we're finished with the Su-25 series" There is only one earlier SU-25SM but its pretty much like the Su-25BM i dont see them adding it, now we can finally hope they are going for SU-24 and then Su-34.
can't wait to see A-10c in a few updates
It's not even gonna be close to the SM3, It's just gonna be a slower F-16C.
@@theflyinggasmaskthat doesn’t sound bad for a CAS plane
@theflyinggasmask with its speed like already of A-10A late vs the 11.0 to 11.7 Su-25s RN it would probably be 11.0 or 11.3 with 9M and a lot better systems and weapons
@@sniper321firebro what? even if that remotely makes sense, you’re claiming a lower br on the a10 with better “systems and weapons” lmao, which would also go against every american main’s claim of russian bias… bros actually schizo
@@Skinny6539 not even speed is worse reason the A-10A late with 4 9L is 10.3
They were saying the Merkava was hacking lol
He might be for all we can know, unless you go find the replay and watch the pov of him you can't really know
Gaijin : Yeah, let’s give russia a very long range CAS while not giving other nations their SPAA equivalent to pantsir missile range.
“Balance”
There’s no comparable spaa to the pantsir.
@@wongarnold2879 then Why put it in the first place if they are going for “game balance”? 2S6 is basically an ADATS. Israel and japan doesn’t even have a proper radar guided SPAA that has atleast 10km missile range and they decide to give russia an 18km range spaa?
@@banalnapato10 you are actually right . But people will complain about cas. So the pantsir is here.
@@wongarnold2879 the best CAS jet now is the SU25SM3. The problem is, the only spaa that can rival its missile range is the Pantsir. Both are in russia. That’s the problem with balance. You place the best spaa and cas together in one nation instead of giving another nation a better spaa like italy, japan, or israel. That’s why there is bias.
@@banalnapato10 I guess you have to play cap.
I fucked up and didn't research that entire line from like 4.0, so now I'm stuck grinding shit in the su-39 so I don't have to do low tier CAS.
Same only did the yak mig and su7 lines haha
It's good to know that the urrs finally got a jet comparable to the F16C with 6 x AGM64D that track moving targets at 11km + 2 GBU-24 with 500kg each one, and the amazing flight performance of the f16 that helps it when you wanna evade sam missiles 😉
comparable ? lol at least the saams can shot at the f16 this thing has to much range no spaa has that range Cope harder!
@@Luisasophie163 yeah seems like you haven't seen a f16c dropping 6 mavericks 11km away and getting six kill instant while you CAN'T KILL IT, the same shit is this but with less missiles, Cope harder!
@@Luisasophie163 you can use f16 to lob bgu 24 from 10-15km
@@Luisasophie163 women shouldn't comment, 90% of the time they are always wrong
@@CREELAST you can literally dodge mavericks by moving
Gaijin thinks the game needs more Intergalactic Space-to-Ground missiles.
Only Rússia needs that! Come to the dark side my friend! Nobody talks about STRV 122B+ have 70%+ winrate...
@@ycgameplaysthat’s cuz Swedish players are the best in the game
they should do a no missiles mode i bet everyone would migrate overnight.
nope
as as US main who plays the game to have fun and relax, i despise you.
nice video.
Lol it’s crazy Gaijin added this missile on this Su25. According to some findings on the internet it looks like the only launch platforms are the Su34, Su57 and the Ka52K. This is stupid that they added it this early to the game considering how advanced these aircraft that can use this are. Should not of been added since Russia also has the longest range SPAA and the only real counter to this is a fighter that can intercept and shoot down the Su25 because it has a 40km launch range. Absolutely absurd.
Also to note another fact if they want to add something like this to the game where it definitely doesn’t need to be added,then there’s no reason why they can’t give other vehicles other ammunition i.e M829A3 to the Abram’s for example, Hellfire L for the Apaches. But you know it’s not like these vehicles didn’t use them or any thing, when they actually do use them. It’s total bullshit that Gaijin is gonna sit there and say “oh these hellfires don’t need to be added , or M829A3 doesn’t need to be added to the game” because they don’t see it as a necessary add. Even though it was designed to pass through contact 5 ERA having upwards to 720mm of penetration. But then again here they go adding the Obj. 292 to Russia where it has 695mm pen. Again Russian bias. You’re cooked if you think it isn’t.
wikipeadia isnt a reliable source
Cry harder, why don't you play Russia then if it's so op ?
@@scharrk Russians have something good! Activate crying mode!
@@Ecipse-hr5nkexcept the issue is not necessarily bias but that there are no SPAA that can really be added to counter these. Patriot is 80km at its shortest range variant, and you and I both know how amazingly effective that system is.
@@MatchingUser in this map? Its difficult to use normale spaa 😂😂
Su25 META rn is to carry two pairs of Kh38MT/L as well as a pair of Kh25ml use MT to snipe AA before go in to kill
what engaging, fair, and exciting gameplay
I dont play realistic battles but it would still be cool if the US could get some newer and better A-10's aswell. Its always the russians that get the good stuff.
Idk what you are talking about? You got the f16 which’s is 10x better than the a10.
@@wongarnold2879 Bro, its not about better CAS planes. Russia also has better planes for that than the SU 25. Its about SU25 vs A10, they are equally on the same level.
@@crad5476 if you do add a new a10, it’s gonna face the pantsir, which no one really wants to deal with.
@@wongarnold2879 If they even have a pantsir. Doesnt matter. Need more A10's.
"Its always the russians that get the good stuff"
*Also this being the first time in fucking ages where the russians have a better plane and thats only because of 1 missile and getting thermals that the us had for years*
I can already see how boring and suffering the grind to unlock it's weapons will be
Not so much just go to sim battle and unlock first the maw. Its 11.7 and this means he cant go fight against 12.0-12.7 jet. Usually at his br you will fight against f4, tornado, mig23 and other under the 12.0.
4:54 yeah this guy is right... Cas gameplay at top tier is no fun for ground units and not really fun for the actual cas player either if played optimally... :/ it's just frustrating and boring
Day 12 of asking potato to buy me premium
U should buy him a premium
Buy me a premium
Can I uhmmm has a magnum premium ice cream?
In the right hands it can solo a GRB round
So you’re the guy the send when I activate my boosters…
the missile with ir guidance that goes mach 2+? yeah that's... troublesome
R-27ET almost mach 5 IR
Why does this have less gun mounts than the SU 39 and no vichrs 😕
Missiles so good they can lock more than the optics on the plane can.
I noticed u launch missiles from 13k or 14k max range but i kept wondering why sont u launch from 16k away? I always launch from minimum like bare minimum 15k away and by the time im 10km from the battlefield the missile already reached the target meanwhile i see u getting 5km away and its so uneccesery
I don't feel like wasting time circling back once I spawn in
You didnt feature the IR version, how consistant is it?
It's ok, but I prefer the laser guided one
So not only does Russia have the best anti cas vehicle with the panisr now they have the best cas plane.
nice. will you make a video on Alpha jet?
Probably not..
@@armoured_potato ill give u a kiss if u do
😭
russia out here with 3 generations of SU25s meanwhile we are rocking 1 a10
2 but only real difference is the extra Aim-9s
@@Blackphantom622 1 generation (2 airframes) vs 3 generations (6 airframes)
Half the video is just crapping on Japanese players lol, instant like
Great games this plane is totally not over powered
Its a su25 you can kill it even whit prop plane 😂😂😂
Do the TV guided kh 38's lock on to moving tanks? If yes what is the lock on range to moving tanks? (I dont have the jet yet!!)
Since they are IIR and seem to have the same lock range stats as the others of the same type, around 9-12km depending on size.
@@Wotplaya4 on moving tanks? Because the kh 29te can also lock the ground from that range but not moving tanks!
@@Em_Youl Yes moving targets. The 29T only does that around 6km because it's TV and not IIR
@@Wotplaya4 ah thats cool
I like potatoes :D
Good vid
I am 350k rp away from su25sm3, but I am not ready for the stock grind💀
Stock grind is the worst.
This is better than ULQ lmao
that poor chaparral
I was going to ignoire this su 25 i want ut now lol
Hi are you my youtube cousin?
SPAA players taking another L
Hahaha 😂 a SU 25 "untouchable" that's a good joke..
Inb4 SU-34 for balans ))))))))
These type of videos make me not want to play ground rb
Farming though really. Where's 'the game' in that. Against bots fine, against other people not so much. Against hackers it might be a thing if Gaijin would highlight the hackers so you could farm them. Not very impressive gameplay in my opinion. Not attacking you just think the whole thing is shitsville.
Yeah when i whack it bvr 😂
Haha thats a veery sexy video!
Of course russia has to be nation that gets best everything...
F16C still better
f16 hellow?
USA has better planes, germany and sweden have better tanks, but if it helps you mate.
3x STRV122 and german 2A7V with 65% winrate and spall liners doesnt count i guess
american tears 😢
CAS !
and i need to grind it and grind all modules
@@MSK1147just go to sim