A family friend owned a Bentley T1 and rather than having a reputable specialist maintain it, he used to have it sent back to Bentley in Crewe (in the UK, their headquarters) for all maintenance and repairs. The bills were simply staggering often for parts which were used on other far cheaper models.. Bentley virtually made up the prices and the owner would sign the cheques without questioning them, ever. Just seem to be one of those companies who can get away with it. Also I love that you call it the boot and bonnet for us Brits.. thanks Wizard :D
I'm in Santa Fe. The prior owner of my Bentley had it picked up by Bentley of Denver for all oil changes. The pickup and return delivery fee was $2,500. On top of an $800 oil change. Some people just hate money.
100% these brands are a front to extract money from the rich who won't notice it. Similar to the Bugatti Veyron, air mass sensors are 4,700 EACH! But if you look at part number, they use the same ones in the VW GTI which costs 120...no difference besides that it comes in a Bugatti bag. Its a way for the common folks to leech $ from the rich.
My dad used to restore antique cars, mostly Studebakers and Packards, but he had a Jaguar E Type in the shop with a broken handle/latch for the convertible top. A new one was essentially unobtainable, so he had one made at a machine shop and when he got it back it looked so nice the owner had the machinist make two more to replace ones in the corners of the windshield. There has to be a shop out there that can make that gear out of metal for a fraction of the cost of a new motor. Even if you have to create a flat on the shaft or drill it for a set screw. Replacing a cheap plastic/nylon gear with another one that is guaranteed to break doesn't make sense to me.
I have to agree with you! ANY Gear-Cutting Shop can faithfully copy those stripped gears in brass or phos. Bronze. But then, you would have to cut the hot wire to the Trunk Motor, and measure the current flow to fit a suitable Line Fuse, even accounting for 2" of snow on the Trunk Lid! The plastic gears will fail again. It's just a sign of the times that we live in. None of this should be happening to a Bentley with under 70K on the Odometer.
There is so much money that could to be made by reengineering certain car parts that fail repeatedly. Just design the part that will outlive the vehicle and charge half the price of OEM. Especially if you specialize in higher end vehicles, you will make loads of money.
It's a refreshing change of pace to see a car that's in good shape and (knock on wood) just needs a couple of relatively small fixes to be right as rain.
Bentley are under Audi in the VAG group, 90% of parts are German with about 10%, usually wood trim and cosmetic additions being added during assembly in Crewe UK, although some models are entirely made and assembled in Germany. It hasn't been British since 1998 when all rights were purchased by VAG and it pays corporation tax in Germany.
Oh and it's a Bentley so it may be made of Audi parts but you will pay Rolls Royce prices and more and, just because it is a Bentley do not expect a penny more spent on things you cannot see than on any other VAG car like a VW or Audi, these cars are for people that don't have to worry about spending $2000 to fix a boot lid and spares are priced accordingly.
Lol hilarious the entire car is hand assembled in the UK using German engine and electronic components. Everything else from the wood, the leather, the aluminum body is all crafted in Crewe
@@iLoveBoysandBerries😂😂😂 everything other than engine, transmission and electronics , is hand assembled in Crewe … all the ashtrays and a/c knobs ? 😂😂😂 you are hilarious
Wizard I think you should consider a 3D printed gear, even if you don’t warranty it… hear me out. I know you don’t want something 3D printed that mechanically can compromise the car but I feel like in this application where it’s not a critical piece a 3D printed part could be a stop-gap until you can get the new motor in since you're going to be replacing the entire motor anyways. Like you've said in the past it can take months to get your hands on parts if they are even in stock. As someone who does a lot of 3D prototyping I’d be willing to help design one as I’m sure other fans would be too. Some of the 3D printing materials are now stronger than injection moulded anyway. Just my two cents.
I'd have to agree on this one, 3D printing is just evolving and it seems to make stronger stuff nowadays. It seems like a viable option than having to wait for a year...the other option (manual opening) seems easiest, but honestly, who wants to do that on a car this luxurious?
I work at the Toyota dealership and we just had a customer with a 2013 Rav-4 that had a broken automatic lift gate and it cost over $1200 to fix it! I was honestly shocked myself when I found out how much it was to fix on that car!
Lazy peeps gotta psy for lazy benefits, since when was that hard to close a lid by hand and not pressing a button? Why put more quality parts when you can put more useless stuff like that wich will eventually break and cost a fortune?
Well, there is a lot of tech needed for the convenience of automatic lift gate. I always wonder if people understand that all the gimmicks they want actually brake sooner or later.
I bought a new 07 Aston Martin DB 9 volante in 07. I test drove a Bentley Continental convertible the same time. Even though AM v12 was around 100 horsepower less than Bentley at that time the AM was faster as 1000 pounds less. The AM was made of aluminum Vs Bentley almost all steel. The AM felt more like a sports car so we bought the AM. It was in the shop a lot with electric issues but was under warranty. Parts took forever. Both cars depreciate like a brick in water.
These vehicles can be reliable if you perform the yearly maintenance. Yes, maintenance is horribly expensive but letting letting things go is even more scary expensive. These are high performance vehicles not a Chevy Vega.
Ensuring that regular maintenance is maintained is a given for such cars. I consider the significant issue with these cars is the ‘less than optimal’ use of the VW ….. err German plastic/rubber components in locations that are subject to high temperature heat cycles - all made worse if the said plastic/rubber component can’t be easily accessed as for the Continental that has an engine bay that can only be described as requiring 'many shoe horns to get anything in and out of'. My experience with under bonnet (or under hood) VW plastics (& similar for BMW) is that they have the structural integrity of corn flakes once they reach the 10 year mark on a car that has done average yearly km (say 20-25km/year).
A chap I know bought a used Bentley a couple of years ago. Not sure of the model but it was a sport coupe. Fortunately it came with a warranty, as the garage had the car for nearly a month, putting things right.
13:16 even if it isn’t the full inspection, I like how consistent y’all are in the order in which you check items so you always end up checking the same things we get to see and compare a lot across-the-board. I think this consistency is the reason that duct mirrors videos are so popular, so please keep it up. I enjoy it at least.
The word "boot"(which is commonly used by the English), goes back to 18th century horse-drawn carriages where the coachman sat on a chest, which was used to store, among other things, his boots. This storage space came to be termed as the "boot locker", which soon became the "boot".
Hi Wizard, i own an Infiniti G37 convertible with a hard top. Those are known (all years model from 2009 to 2015) to have problems about top side flaps gears ...Same trouble as the Bently trunk lid... i presume, as the plastic gear in the linkage deploying those flaps broke down after couple years. Dealer ask around 1300$(or more) fo those linkages(+labor), cause those gears are not part listed. So, short story...i found a machine shop in my local area, who was willing to engineered steel gears with exact oem spec..Cost me around 600$ for a pair and, i replace them diy. Since then, those flaps never failed again. Replacing the entire motor unit will result to contain same cheap plastic gear that will broke down again some days...I think it worth the effort to get some metal ones produce and, you're a very good mecanic so, you certainly dont have to fear for breaking the motor itself to do that job...My opinion! And, on top of that... Now i can sell those gears to other Infiniti vert owners who have the same problem for a fraction of the price of a complete linkage assy...
That trunk problem sounds like it was designed by Volkswagen - the small things like a $2 inferior plastic gear create huge repair issues and headaches!
we had a shop take a sample of the gear teeth and made a metal one for my bmw and changed some other plastic bits in the motor for the auto open fuction and it hasnt given any problems its just a little bit louder than the original but not noticeable, but then again i get the idea a car that expensive needs original parts to keep its value
Hmm? Lexani LX-Twenty tyres on a Bentley. I hadn't heard of them. But Jonathan Benson has saying "Extremely long wet and dry braking distances, poor steering feel and feedback, dangerous levels of understeer. Hmmmm!
I have stuck my head inside a Bentley Bentayga and my god the smell and the feel of the leather inside these Bentley's is something I have never experienced in my entire life. So when the wizard said these things smell incredible inside he is not lying.
I believe that color is called Havana. Interior is dark and light bourbon with dark burl walnut. Rear seats are not hated/cooled as I recall. Wheels/caliper color/floor mats not stock. What’s up with the Euro front license bracket?
I have a Audi A8 D3 W12 and I can see it’s a very similar part €950 for motor it’s a updated part. Audi updated the gas struts for stronger and installs rubber bumpers with Internal pushers to assist the initial opening of the boot lid . There are modifications to motors with friction discs but a lot of A8 components look similar
I’m surprised someone hasn’t made CNC aluminum gears for it yet. Maybe it can’t be metal for some reason but I’d be calling some people to see if it can be done.
I have a friend owns one of these. It had a major service and timing chains before he took delivery. Engine out job. Cost North of 10,000 GBP, 4 grand of that was removing and refitting the engine.
@@ulflei I was at Flying Spares in my Bentley last month and I asked what the reason most Conti GTs were scrapped. That was one example of what I was told.
Cleanest decade old Bentley for sure. Can't be more than on its second owner. Probably has some other nice daily. Probably uses this on a weekend getaways and to take to the golf course, and that's why the trunk broke because it gets used 'too often'.
Could you replace whole electric motor overcomplication with a sturdy clock spring? It's very satisfying to be able to slam a trunk after loading it. 🙂
You know, what's insane on this car (and that reflects VW mentality, I assure you) is putting an overcomplicated and stupid-expensive automatic open\close mechanism on a relatively small boot lid. Now I can understand that this may be needed on an SUV with big heavy rear hatch, but on a coupe with a small boot lid? I've owned inexpensive 70's American cars that had a clock spring on the hood that just worked for over 40 years without any sign of failing anytime soon. And it opened a big, heavy hood without much help from a person. Actually, it almost looked like it was electrically powered. That's how smooth it was. Also trunk lids were ingeniously designed with a spring and weighted just right so that when you opened it, it would just go up by itself. Fast forward to nowadays where manufacturers have seen the error of their ways (clock springs don't sell spare parts) and replaced those springs with gas struts, which are, of course, designed to fail eventually. If you want to see a piece of VW engineering at work, search for VW Touareg (2003 - 2010) rear hatch strut replacement and prepare yourself for a massive "WTF" moment.
That is a beautiful interior! It should be, as that trunk repair is going to cost more than my first car did… a beautiful clean little MKI Volkswagen Jetta that was so fun to drive. The interior was Spartan, but extremely high quality. Manufactured in Germany.
Repairs of trunk are quite easy to repair in Bentleys and vw Phaetons. In most of the cases there is a problem with electric cables between body and trunk lid. Plus correct adaptation and is like new again. I thought it will be a motor too because diagnostic tool was saying exactly the same thing in my vw phaeton and in the end I found out that it was only a bunch of broken wires. Check that first. It my save few thousands
My guy in Atlanta fixed mine and it wasn't even wiring. The dealer wanted 1400 bux to run a new cable from the front of the car, under the carpets and behind the seats to fix it. My guy in Georgia fixed it gratis after a little trouble shooting.
What he did not mention is that the engine is 2 Volkswagen VR6 engines put together with a combined sump. The same idea as when Lotus put 2 Cortina 1500 engines together to make the 3 litre DFV formula 1 engine.
Love that root beer brown color, something you don't see every day. Those silly wheels would have to go though, they look like they came off a late model Accord or Civic.
Bentleys are nice cars but when i see that infotainment and AC controls and buttons i just see a Passat. Same buttons and same volume and station dials, I’m so focused on hoovies Charger in the background there
Scuderia Parts seemed to have it in stock for about 1,100 euros. I think someone could probably CNC a new gear for the old motor, but it's not a route a shop wants to go down. As an DIY owner, I'd give it a go.
@@BedroomBeethovens if you are handy, have tools and funds for parts I would consider buying one, unless you have good $$ to spend on repairs I would avoid it. The bills can get a lot worse than your typical BMW or Mercedes.
In one of my jobs I remember a Continental Flying Spur with a frozen parking brake being dragged onto a flatbed scuffing the tires. Even with all that power it takes a beat to overcome the weight and get moving. 50 processors with two batteries.
I had the same issue on my 2007 BMW 328xi transfer case. Little plastic round coge working together with a metal coge. Only a few teeth wore out and caused the whole all wheel drive system to fail.
Bmw, jaguar, vag group, mini, mercedes owners laugh with French and Italian cars manufactures because of using lits of plastic, but actually all of them are junk
Here in EU there are kits to rebuild the old gears with new CNC made gears and its around 200€. Also many online shops sell the OEM motor for ~400 to 500€ used and 650 to 750€ new. Yea I know its an European car so thats why its so common here and parts are easy to find but you should consider shopping in EU for the motor or for the rebuild kit. Its not a new car anymore, i bet he is not the first owner anyway so i would much rather sepend 200€ to rebuild the gears every 5 years than 2500€. Keep in mind that the new motor is not updated or anything and it will fail too.
Mrs Wizard I think that the vent controls are called Organ stops or organ pulls like you have on an pipe organ. Love Bentley interior, pity we don't have smell o vision.
I have a 2004 VW Phaeton which is built on the Bentley chassis and has many similarities to this car. My car does not have the strange Bentley motor for the trunk. VW had lots of problems with the trunk originally and must have changed the design. On the Phaeton one only needs to manually open the trunk all the way, insert the key in the secret location and turn it which re-orients the computer so it knew when the trunk was open and when it was closed. I am sure it frustrated a lot of people. I guess the solution was worse than the original problem, go figure. These cars based on this chassis are wonderful cars. Mine is stored for the winter and I started it up and it is still solid as a rock, no vibrations at all. If you can stomach the maintenance bills, it will serve you well for many years. Mine is now 19 years old and I do not hesitate to use it as a daily driver. Expect to have a few 5 figure repair bills, however.
Don't know how you have the patience to work on some of these cars. Wish I had the patience and skill set you have . There must be some love of tech also
The same thing happened on the electric trunk actuator of his 97 Cadillac Eldorado, he took the spare jack from the trunk and knocked the F out of it three times very hard slams into the trunk, and it worked properly forever there after lol
eBay is your friend …get it there , gears or the whole motor … don’t be afraid of these cars , if it was pre-VW Bentley it would be different story, but these newer ones are all VW and Audi , tons of parts are interchangeable, and available on line for very affordable prices… definitely avoid going to the dealer for anything , if you can
Plastic gears for this motor or any motor in Bentley is available in Russia don’t remember the web sight we use but you can look it up. It’s quite famous. There is no copyright over there, so you know.
As an American, I wish he'd stop! This is Murka! We mispronounce foreign words from all sorts of languages! Porsch! Porsch! Porsch! Trunk! Hood! Loosen those nuts with a wrench! 😄
I am kind of surprised that same motor isn’t used in anything else like power, windows or locks, it looks just like the motor that operates the latch on my 91 Jeep Cherokee rear hatch. I’m really surprised there. Isn’t someone who only reproduces gears for things like this that would be an awesome niche market if you could produce them with high quality, at least higher than OE.
Sounds like we found a replacement for Mrs. Wizards Levante? Great video Wizard. Not surprised by the repair but I will keep it in mind when I try to buy this used in 20 years!
People who put cheap tires on cars like that are crazy. But i guess you have to be crazy to own a 10 year old Bentley. I'd be cautious if they'd even pay you after you're done working on the car.
10:01 Hinterachse VW D1 is on the label - rear axle VW D1 and of cause manufactured in DE = Germany Looks like the car is in pretty good shape with such labels still there.
Always buy a Toyota. Expensive or cheap you know it is not visiting a shop anytime soon for these overly sensitive motor changes. Change oil, brakes, put gas you're good to go.
OK cheap fix for this problem take the motor apart figure out what diameter gear and how many teeth are on it and then swap that plastic gear with the brass gear and it will never happen again I had the same problem with my 98 Corvette C5 because of the headlight motor same thing happens to them plastic gears, and they strip There’s a rebuild kit online you can either go out and spend another $200 on a GM motor and fix it temporarily until may be a few more years if you plan on keeping the car that long Or for $52 and a little bit of time and maybe some wrench throwing in a few hours at the kitchen table you can take apart the motor and replace the plastic worm gear with a brass gear
Wizard! I have a trust issue with most shops, I have a $30. Dollar oil pan gasket for my awesome no rust like new 5.0 4x4 2013 F150 I'm willing to pay your shop price to install! You're forcing this old guy to climb around under my truck to lower the transfer case, remove the cross member and release the sway bar to get my gasket replaced!😭 Wish I had a lift! Yes I'm picky and paranoid about most service centers! 👍 I'm close by, let me know if you have time and a young tech that needs work!
My brother was driving my late sister-in-law's 2019 Bentley convertible in southern Florida and took a hard hit from a service van to the rear quarter. This was a year ago and he may be getting it back before too long. His insurance company; one you all know, basically stiffed him.as did the insurance company of the mo-mo that hit him. Parts aren't available and no shops want to work on these. Expensive cars like this are poison when bent or they mechanically fail. Enjoy your presentations, CW
It might be worth talking with a good machinist. Replace the plastic gears with aluminum. Set up a jig to semi-mass produce them and pop out 100 sets. I've gotta think these would sell for a few hundred dollars a set pretty easily.
Did I see overspray of yellow from the calipers on the lower control arms? This was at 12:14 onward. What's up with that!? Were the calipers painted on the car? That doesn't seem factory.
Organ pulls Mrs Wizard Organ Pulls. Opera handles & Organ Pulls. Don’t know why Opera handles as I have looked for them at the Opera and they were missing
Greetings from across the pond. Good manners to use the terms bonnet and boot which are correct. They are also called wings not fenders! Another example of great British heritage. Anyway toodle pip, off for a cup of Rosie Lee.
Had a Honda minivan hatch get its lock jammed after warranty. It was over $1000 to fix. Labor to remove a lot of panels to get into the hatch panel. So 2k is not surprising
Seems like expensive parts for these exotic cars should have a source for rebuilding the worn part… like sending the boot motor to a professional factory rep and either they send you another professionally rebuilt part or rebuild the part you sent them ( time of the essence)
The Car Wizards has the coolest walk on TH-cam. I'd love to see a continuous loop video of him just waddling around on his stubby little legs with Pantera's WALK as the background music?
Could you use a local CNC shop that machines precision metal parts? Not sure how accurate it would need to be for a lift gear but should be something easy to make. Good luck, hope someone has a good idea.
A family friend owned a Bentley T1 and rather than having a reputable specialist maintain it, he used to have it sent back to Bentley in Crewe (in the UK, their headquarters) for all maintenance and repairs. The bills were simply staggering often for parts which were used on other far cheaper models.. Bentley virtually made up the prices and the owner would sign the cheques without questioning them, ever. Just seem to be one of those companies who can get away with it. Also I love that you call it the boot and bonnet for us Brits.. thanks Wizard :D
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I'm in Santa Fe. The prior owner of my Bentley had it picked up by Bentley of Denver for all oil changes. The pickup and return delivery fee was $2,500. On top of an $800 oil change. Some people just hate money.
All hyper luxurious cars are scams for rich people. But they're still cool tho.
100% these brands are a front to extract money from the rich who won't notice it. Similar to the Bugatti Veyron, air mass sensors are 4,700 EACH! But if you look at part number, they use the same ones in the VW GTI which costs 120...no difference besides that it comes in a Bugatti bag. Its a way for the common folks to leech $ from the rich.
My dad used to restore antique cars, mostly Studebakers and Packards, but he had a Jaguar E Type in the shop with a broken handle/latch for the convertible top. A new one was essentially unobtainable, so he had one made at a machine shop and when he got it back it looked so nice the owner had the machinist make two more to replace ones in the corners of the windshield. There has to be a shop out there that can make that gear out of metal for a fraction of the cost of a new motor. Even if you have to create a flat on the shaft or drill it for a set screw. Replacing a cheap plastic/nylon gear with another one that is guaranteed to break doesn't make sense to me.
Agreed! Time for metal.
I have to agree with you! ANY Gear-Cutting Shop can faithfully copy those stripped gears in brass or phos. Bronze. But then, you would have to cut the hot wire to the Trunk Motor, and measure the current flow to fit a suitable Line Fuse, even accounting for 2" of snow on the Trunk Lid! The plastic gears will fail again. It's just a sign of the times that we live in. None of this should be happening to a Bentley with under 70K on the Odometer.
@That V8 Life Nobody can be bothered anymore about this type of craftsmanship today.
There is so much money that could to be made by reengineering certain car parts that fail repeatedly. Just design the part that will outlive the vehicle and charge half the price of OEM. Especially if you specialize in higher end vehicles, you will make loads of money.
I've found it is often cheaper to do as well win/win
It's a refreshing change of pace to see a car that's in good shape and (knock on wood) just needs a couple of relatively small fixes to be right as rain.
Looked brand new underneath. Hard to believe it was 65,000 miles. I've seen vidoes of new Mcleans with more rust.
@@luke8329 what's a Mclean?
@@luke8329 Yup, Volkswagen trash usually doesn't last so long without more stuff falling apart.
@@luke8329 What is a McLean?
@@luke8329 McLovin*
Bentley are under Audi in the VAG group, 90% of parts are German with about 10%, usually wood trim and cosmetic additions being added during assembly in Crewe UK, although some models are entirely made and assembled in Germany. It hasn't been British since 1998 when all rights were purchased by VAG and it pays corporation tax in Germany.
Oh and it's a Bentley so it may be made of Audi parts but you will pay Rolls Royce prices and more and, just because it is a Bentley do not expect a penny more spent on things you cannot see than on any other VAG car like a VW or Audi, these cars are for people that don't have to worry about spending $2000 to fix a boot lid and spares are priced accordingly.
Lol hilarious the entire car is hand assembled in the UK using German engine and electronic components. Everything else from the wood, the leather, the aluminum body is all crafted in Crewe
@@iLoveBoysandBerries😂😂😂 everything other than engine, transmission and electronics , is hand assembled in Crewe … all the ashtrays and a/c knobs ? 😂😂😂 you are hilarious
It's hard to build cars in a country that the workers go on strike 4 times a week.
Wizard I think you should consider a 3D printed gear, even if you don’t warranty it… hear me out.
I know you don’t want something 3D printed that mechanically can compromise the car but I feel like in this application where it’s not a critical piece a 3D printed part could be a stop-gap until you can get the new motor in since you're going to be replacing the entire motor anyways. Like you've said in the past it can take months to get your hands on parts if they are even in stock.
As someone who does a lot of 3D prototyping I’d be willing to help design one as I’m sure other fans would be too. Some of the 3D printing materials are now stronger than injection moulded anyway. Just my two cents.
I agree. 👍Jay Leno uses a lot of 3D printed stuff for his many restoration projects. Of course, his prints in metal.
Yes!
LOL, you going to warranty that idea?
I'd have to agree on this one, 3D printing is just evolving and it seems to make stronger stuff nowadays. It seems like a viable option than having to wait for a year...the other option (manual opening) seems easiest, but honestly, who wants to do that on a car this luxurious?
You can 3D print a plastic gear that will be stronger than the injection molded one.
I work at the Toyota dealership and we just had a customer with a 2013 Rav-4 that had a broken automatic lift gate and it cost over $1200 to fix it! I was honestly shocked myself when I found out how much it was to fix on that car!
Lazy peeps gotta psy for lazy benefits, since when was that hard to close a lid by hand and not pressing a button? Why put more quality parts when you can put more useless stuff like that wich will eventually break and cost a fortune?
That's insane !
Well, there is a lot of tech needed for the convenience of automatic lift gate. I always wonder if people understand that all the gimmicks they want actually brake sooner or later.
@@nxadventures9510 a lot of tech? is that a joke? you can make the same system for a few hundreds bucks
You mean Toyotas break? That's weird, everyone on the internet says they're bulletproof.
I bought a new 07 Aston Martin DB 9 volante in 07. I test drove a Bentley Continental convertible the same time. Even though AM v12 was around 100 horsepower less than Bentley at that time the AM was faster as 1000 pounds less. The AM was made of aluminum Vs Bentley almost all steel. The AM felt more like a sports car so we bought the AM. It was in the shop a lot with electric issues but was under warranty. Parts took forever. Both cars depreciate like a brick in water.
These vehicles can be reliable if you perform the yearly maintenance. Yes, maintenance is horribly expensive but letting letting things go is even more scary expensive. These are high performance vehicles not a Chevy Vega.
The Aston Martin's depreciate faster than the Bentleys upfront.
Ensuring that regular maintenance is maintained is a given for such cars. I consider the significant issue with these cars is the ‘less than optimal’ use of the VW ….. err German plastic/rubber components in locations that are subject to high temperature heat cycles - all made worse if the said plastic/rubber component can’t be easily accessed as for the Continental that has an engine bay that can only be described as requiring 'many shoe horns to get anything in and out of'. My experience with under bonnet (or under hood) VW plastics (& similar for BMW) is that they have the structural integrity of corn flakes once they reach the 10 year mark on a car that has done average yearly km (say 20-25km/year).
They are for the stupid, filthy rich.
@@felicetanka You can get a good deal on a CPO one down the road.
A chap I know bought a used Bentley a couple of years ago. Not sure of the model but it was a sport coupe.
Fortunately it came with a warranty, as the garage had the car for nearly a month, putting things right.
13:16 even if it isn’t the full inspection, I like how consistent y’all are in the order in which you check items so you always end up checking the same things we get to see and compare a lot across-the-board. I think this consistency is the reason that duct mirrors videos are so popular, so please keep it up. I enjoy it at least.
As a Brit, I really love and appreciate you calling the luggage compartment a boot! Thanks for the fantastic content!
The word "boot"(which is commonly used by the English), goes back to 18th century horse-drawn carriages where the coachman sat on a chest, which was used to store, among other things, his boots. This storage space came to be termed as the "boot locker", which soon became the "boot".
and the front wings, aka mudguards in my lingo!
Some of the early US cars had a steamer like trunk in the back for storage so we now call that area the trunk.
Hi Wizard, i own an Infiniti G37 convertible with a hard top. Those are known (all years model from 2009 to 2015) to have problems about top side flaps gears ...Same trouble as the Bently trunk lid... i presume, as the plastic gear in the linkage deploying those flaps broke down after couple years. Dealer ask around 1300$(or more) fo those linkages(+labor), cause those gears are not part listed.
So, short story...i found a machine shop in my local area, who was willing to engineered steel gears with exact oem spec..Cost me around 600$ for a pair and, i replace them diy. Since then, those flaps never failed again. Replacing the entire motor unit will result to contain same cheap plastic gear that will broke down again some days...I think it worth the effort to get some metal ones produce and, you're a very good mecanic so, you certainly dont have to fear for breaking the motor itself to do that job...My opinion!
And, on top of that... Now i can sell those gears to other Infiniti vert owners who have the same problem for a fraction of the price of a complete linkage assy...
That trunk problem sounds like it was designed by Volkswagen - the small things like a $2 inferior plastic gear create huge repair issues and headaches!
Look up who owns Bentley Motors
designed by VW and supplied to them by the lowest bidder
Yeah, not impressed with these "High End" cars. Hardly better than a kit car. They break down for stupid reasons, then cost extravagant $$ to fix.
Yes! These are not quality cars at all.. They're made with the same grade of component that everyone suffers.
@@paulwoodman5131 And this is why I say you better off just buying a Toyota Camry or a Honda or Lexus
Greetings from the UK. Thanks for the content Wizard!
England here
we had a shop take a sample of the gear teeth and made a metal one for my bmw and changed some other plastic bits in the motor for the auto open fuction and it hasnt given any problems its just a little bit louder than the original but not noticeable, but then again i get the idea a car that expensive needs original parts to keep its value
Tragic wheels on a beautiful coupe
I'll still take it for the car I'm driving at the moment. My jag xj8 2004 is still in the shop 😢
I thought the same thing
Hmm? Lexani LX-Twenty tyres on a Bentley. I hadn't heard of them. But Jonathan Benson has saying "Extremely long wet and dry braking distances, poor steering feel and feedback, dangerous levels of understeer.
Hmmmm!
I have stuck my head inside a Bentley Bentayga and my god the smell and the feel of the leather inside these Bentley's is something I have never experienced in my entire life. So when the wizard said these things smell incredible inside he is not lying.
I believe that color is called Havana. Interior is dark and light bourbon with dark burl walnut. Rear seats are not hated/cooled as I recall. Wheels/caliper color/floor mats not stock. What’s up with the Euro front license bracket?
Those wheels belong on a Civic, and sort of look like those found on a Civic Sport
Yes, they’re hilarious
I have a Audi A8 D3 W12 and I can see it’s a very similar part €950 for motor it’s a updated part. Audi updated the gas struts for stronger and installs rubber bumpers with Internal pushers to assist the initial opening of the boot lid . There are modifications to motors with friction discs but a lot of A8 components look similar
I’m surprised someone hasn’t made CNC aluminum gears for it yet. Maybe it can’t be metal for some reason but I’d be calling some people to see if it can be done.
This looks well cared for. No dust in the interior. Always a good sign.
Agreed. The underside was spotless too. It had Texas plates, I doubt it ever saw rain and was obviously garage kept.
So many of these in a village near me. Absolutely gorgeous cars.
I have a friend owns one of these. It had a major service and timing chains before he took delivery. Engine out job. Cost North of 10,000 GBP, 4 grand of that was removing and refitting the engine.
A lot of them get broken for spares here in the UK. Engine out to fit a new starter motor.
Engine out? Good god that sucks. 😂
@@thatmatty231guy Indeed. And there's a lot of labour involved.
@@djwarren5081 and how often did you hear that the starter motor fails?
@@ulflei I was at Flying Spares in my Bentley last month and I asked what the reason most Conti GTs were scrapped. That was one example of what I was told.
Cleanest decade old Bentley for sure. Can't be more than on its second owner. Probably has some other nice daily. Probably uses this on a weekend getaways and to take to the golf course, and that's why the trunk broke because it gets used 'too often'.
His Wizardness is the bomb. Straight shooting, accurate info. Always. No bs. Love it.
Could you replace whole electric motor overcomplication with a sturdy clock spring? It's very satisfying to be able to slam a trunk after loading it. 🙂
Yeah! Never understood “soft close”
You know, what's insane on this car (and that reflects VW mentality, I assure you) is putting an overcomplicated and stupid-expensive automatic open\close mechanism on a relatively small boot lid. Now I can understand that this may be needed on an SUV with big heavy rear hatch, but on a coupe with a small boot lid? I've owned inexpensive 70's American cars that had a clock spring on the hood that just worked for over 40 years without any sign of failing anytime soon. And it opened a big, heavy hood without much help from a person. Actually, it almost looked like it was electrically powered. That's how smooth it was. Also trunk lids were ingeniously designed with a spring and weighted just right so that when you opened it, it would just go up by itself. Fast forward to nowadays where manufacturers have seen the error of their ways (clock springs don't sell spare parts) and replaced those springs with gas struts, which are, of course, designed to fail eventually. If you want to see a piece of VW engineering at work, search for VW Touareg (2003 - 2010) rear hatch strut replacement and prepare yourself for a massive "WTF" moment.
That is a beautiful interior!
It should be, as that trunk repair is going to cost more than my first car did… a beautiful clean little MKI Volkswagen Jetta that was so fun to drive. The interior was Spartan, but extremely high quality. Manufactured in Germany.
Repairs of trunk are quite easy to repair in Bentleys and vw Phaetons. In most of the cases there is a problem with electric cables between body and trunk lid. Plus correct adaptation and is like new again. I thought it will be a motor too because diagnostic tool was saying exactly the same thing in my vw phaeton and in the end I found out that it was only a bunch of broken wires. Check that first. It my save few thousands
My guy in Atlanta fixed mine and it wasn't even wiring. The dealer wanted 1400 bux to run a new cable from the front of the car, under the carpets and behind the seats to fix it. My guy in Georgia fixed it gratis after a little trouble shooting.
I like how is all your video about crazy cost, while most of the cost coming from labor you charge :)
If you remove the steering rack you can get to the vacuum lines - It still takes time but no where near as long a job.
On part shortage I needed a relay and the manufacturer said it could go 1 year to get on fortunately I found and old stock relay that works
What he did not mention is that the engine is 2 Volkswagen VR6 engines put together with a combined sump. The same idea as when Lotus put 2 Cortina 1500 engines together to make the 3 litre DFV formula 1 engine.
Or, 3 VW Golf engines. Just kidding!
And Bugatti W16 is two Passat W8 engines put together.
@@pickamove LOL. I've had 3 Passats 4-cylinder already. Can I say I owned a Bugatti?
@@gorylatko if you've also owned the W8 then you can day you owned half the engine block of Bugatti. 👆
Also the key for Bugatti Veyron is actually suspiciously similar to Passat key if youve watched the Top Gear episode. 😄
The motor the W 12 is essentially two VR six motors put together side-by-side
Upvoted but now you need to explain VR6 to the people!😄
Love that root beer brown color, something you don't see every day. Those silly wheels would have to go though, they look like they came off a late model Accord or Civic.
My coworker’s car. This is the first time I’m seeing it. It is really nice. Very clean.
Tell him to get rid of the ghetto wheels and go back to stock.
I love how it has the same type guages and shifter bezel as my old 2002 vw passat
Would probably be much cheaper to 3d print the gear to spec and have a local machine shop mill one out. Save money and support a local business
Bentleys are nice cars but when i see that infotainment and AC controls and buttons i just see a Passat. Same buttons and same volume and station dials, I’m so focused on hoovies Charger in the background there
The most informative mechanic on yt
Scuderia Parts seemed to have it in stock for about 1,100 euros. I think someone could probably CNC a new gear for the old motor, but it's not a route a shop wants to go down. As an DIY owner, I'd give it a go.
No one's shocked by this.
Dont speak for me
Not at all.
At least vw can make a good w12 engine
😂 yeah idk what he talkin bout w/that
I am a little as these kind of features become standard on even the most entry level cars.
I work on few of these regularly and yes the interiors do smell amazing in these. Great video, thanks for showing.
Worth buying? Or should common folk stay away? I see these regularly for low 40s
@@BedroomBeethovens if you are handy, have tools and funds for parts I would consider buying one, unless you have good $$ to spend on repairs I would avoid it. The bills can get a lot worse than your typical BMW or Mercedes.
In one of my jobs I remember a Continental Flying Spur with a frozen parking brake being dragged onto a flatbed scuffing the tires. Even with all that power it takes a beat to overcome the weight and get moving. 50 processors with two batteries.
I had the same issue on my 2007 BMW 328xi transfer case. Little plastic round coge working together with a metal coge. Only a few teeth wore out and caused the whole all wheel drive system to fail.
Bmw, jaguar, vag group, mini, mercedes owners laugh with French and Italian cars manufactures because of using lits of plastic, but actually all of them are junk
Yep usually every 100k they go out. Very common at the shop I work at (specialize in BMW/VW/Audi/Volvo).. we keep a drawer full of those gears.
Nice ride! However, without good maintenance, that car is probably reaching its money-pit expectancy. Thanks, Mr. and Mrs. Wizard!
You can get a 3D printed "METAL" gear that is as strong or stronger as the OEM for for 2-5 hundred depending on the material.
Loved the Brooklands from 09 and the Mulsanne grew on me.
The last Brooklands after 2012 is to die for. Just try and find one.
Just saw your FJ on Bobs channel, can’t wait to see your review on it!
Here in EU there are kits to rebuild the old gears with new CNC made gears and its around 200€. Also many online shops sell the OEM motor for ~400 to 500€ used and 650 to 750€ new. Yea I know its an European car so thats why its so common here and parts are easy to find but you should consider shopping in EU for the motor or for the rebuild kit. Its not a new car anymore, i bet he is not the first owner anyway so i would much rather sepend 200€ to rebuild the gears every 5 years than 2500€. Keep in mind that the new motor is not updated or anything and it will fail too.
When you said it's like two engines, that is precisely right. The basis of the W12 engine is two VR6 blocks bolted together.
Mrs Wizard I think that the vent controls are called Organ stops or organ pulls like you have on an pipe organ. Love Bentley interior, pity we don't have smell o vision.
I have a 2004 VW Phaeton which is built on the Bentley chassis and has many similarities to this car. My car does not have the strange Bentley motor for the trunk. VW had lots of problems with the trunk originally and must have changed the design. On the Phaeton one only needs to manually open the trunk all the way, insert the key in the secret location and turn it which re-orients the computer so it knew when the trunk was open and when it was closed. I am sure it frustrated a lot of people. I guess the solution was worse than the original problem, go figure. These cars based on this chassis are wonderful cars. Mine is stored for the winter and I started it up and it is still solid as a rock, no vibrations at all. If you can stomach the maintenance bills, it will serve you well for many years. Mine is now 19 years old and I do not hesitate to use it as a daily driver. Expect to have a few 5 figure repair bills, however.
How times changed. 10 years ago a W12 with 560HP was a powerful engine. Today a run of the mill Kia EV6GT has 585HP.
Don't know how you have the patience to work on some of these cars. Wish I had the patience and skill set you have . There must be some love of tech also
The same thing happened on the electric trunk actuator of his 97 Cadillac Eldorado, he took the spare jack from the trunk and knocked the F out of it three times very hard slams into the trunk, and it worked properly forever there after lol
eBay is your friend …get it there , gears or the whole motor … don’t be afraid of these cars , if it was pre-VW Bentley it would be different story, but these newer ones are all VW and Audi , tons of parts are interchangeable, and available on line for very affordable prices… definitely avoid going to the dealer for anything , if you can
Plastic gears for this motor or any motor in Bentley is available in Russia don’t remember the web sight we use but you can look it up. It’s quite famous. There is no copyright over there, so you know.
My 1964 Buick Electra 225 with the 401 CID engine 325 HP with 445 foot pounds of torque. It took off like a bat out of hell!
As someone from the Uk, I do appreciate how you call it a boot and a bonnet instead of the US term!
As an American, I wish he'd stop! This is Murka! We mispronounce foreign words from all sorts of languages! Porsch! Porsch! Porsch!
Trunk! Hood! Loosen those nuts with a wrench!
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And, let's not forget the "wings".
For $2K I’ll keep my groceries in the back seat.
It's too much car for you then. Way too much. It was 190 grand new. You have to expect those type of repairs. Those type of repairs in the thousands.
No one driving a Bentley does their own grocery shopping.
1:24 It's called coffee in a can. 😂
I am kind of surprised that same motor isn’t used in anything else like power, windows or locks, it looks just like the motor that operates the latch on my 91 Jeep Cherokee rear hatch. I’m really surprised there. Isn’t someone who only reproduces gears for things like this that would be an awesome niche market if you could produce them with high quality, at least higher than OE.
I am so addicted to this channel! I love the videos and the content.
If you removed the rear badge off the back of the Bentley would you be left with a B hole?
Expensive cars are not made with expensive parts 😢
Sounds like we found a replacement for Mrs. Wizards Levante?
Great video Wizard. Not surprised by the repair but I will keep it in mind when I try to buy this used in 20 years!
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I can see the same problem happening on Lexus electronic door latches. These designers have mistaken frivolous gadgets as luxury.
People who put cheap tires on cars like that are crazy. But i guess you have to be crazy to own a 10 year old Bentley. I'd be cautious if they'd even pay you after you're done working on the car.
Yea! you called it a bonnet! Thank you, Mrs W!
10:01 Hinterachse VW D1 is on the label - rear axle VW D1
and of cause manufactured in DE = Germany
Looks like the car is in pretty good shape with such labels still there.
That glove box 6:55 is right outta the VW parts bin
Can understand not wanting to put in a plastic gear in that Bentley, but I wonder if there isn't a shop somewhere that could CNC machine a metal one.
A seat lift? Those used to be called telephone books. My grandma and her 69 Impala with 3 phone books to see over the dashboard.
Always buy a Toyota. Expensive or cheap you know it is not visiting a shop anytime soon for these overly sensitive motor changes. Change oil, brakes, put gas you're good to go.
OK cheap fix for this problem take the motor apart figure out what diameter gear and how many teeth are on it and then swap that plastic gear with the brass gear and it will never happen again
I had the same problem with my 98 Corvette C5 because of the headlight motor same thing happens to them plastic gears, and they strip
There’s a rebuild kit online you can either go out and spend another $200 on a GM motor and fix it temporarily until may be a few more years if you plan on keeping the car that long
Or for $52 and a little bit of time and maybe some wrench throwing in a few hours at the kitchen table you can take apart the motor and replace the plastic worm gear with a brass gear
Well if you're going to be Rich ,you need to have the Wizard on speed- dial.🤔🤣
Wizard! I have a trust issue with most shops, I have a $30. Dollar oil pan gasket for my awesome no rust like new 5.0 4x4 2013 F150 I'm willing to pay your shop price to install! You're forcing this old guy to climb around under my truck to lower the transfer case, remove the cross member and release the sway bar to get my gasket replaced!😭 Wish I had a lift! Yes I'm picky and paranoid about most service centers! 👍 I'm close by, let me know if you have time and a young tech that needs work!
My brother was driving my late sister-in-law's 2019 Bentley convertible in southern Florida and took a hard hit from a service van to the rear quarter. This was a year ago and he may be getting it back before too long. His insurance company; one you all know, basically stiffed him.as did the insurance company of the mo-mo that hit him. Parts aren't available and no shops want to work on these. Expensive cars like this are poison when bent or they mechanically fail. Enjoy your presentations, CW
It might be worth talking with a good machinist. Replace the plastic gears with aluminum. Set up a jig to semi-mass produce them and pop out 100 sets. I've gotta think these would sell for a few hundred dollars a set pretty easily.
I found this car online for sale. This buyer bought it 3K miles ago. I hope they got some kind of a discount because of this problem.
2012 is "As Is." They're getting nothing. If it were a powertrain issue, they would likely get 90 days.
@@Private011 There's no way I would've bought that thing without a PPI.
12:00 Wrong You can get the vaccuum line by removing the steering rack. It`s a lot less disassembly
"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain". - Montgomery Scott, Star Trek 3.
Did I see overspray of yellow from the calipers on the lower control arms? This was at 12:14 onward. What's up with that!? Were the calipers painted on the car? That doesn't seem factory.
I kind of like the push and pulling of the logo to get access. 😊
So that boot lid needs a motor, 12V cabling and a boot control module. My 2013 Mercedes C class has a large spring on each boot strut.
Organ pulls Mrs Wizard Organ Pulls. Opera handles & Organ Pulls. Don’t know why Opera handles as I have looked for them at the Opera and they were missing
Greetings from across the pond. Good manners to use the terms bonnet and boot which are correct. They are also called wings not fenders! Another example of great British heritage. Anyway toodle pip, off for a cup of Rosie Lee.
In England we don't call it a hatchback we called it a fast back
Hope this helps
Had a Honda minivan hatch get its lock jammed after warranty. It was over $1000 to fix. Labor to remove a lot of panels to get into the hatch panel. So 2k is not surprising
Seems like expensive parts for these exotic cars should have a source for rebuilding the worn part… like sending the boot motor to a professional factory rep and either they send you another professionally rebuilt part or rebuild the part you sent them ( time of the essence)
Those wheels look like they belong to a mid 90's chevy cavalier. Really brings down the look of the whole car.
W12 in front of the front axle guarantees terminal understeer.
Thank you Wizard and Mrs. Love the Bentley Continental GT, why no other car company can make something similar in size and comfort.
THE Wheels look out of place on that car, needs better looking ones.
The Car Wizards has the coolest walk on TH-cam. I'd love to see a continuous loop video of him just waddling around on his stubby little legs with Pantera's WALK as the background music?
You have a problem. You post this on every Wizard video.
Could you use a local CNC shop that machines precision metal parts?
Not sure how accurate it would need to be for a lift gear but should be something easy to make.
Good luck, hope someone has a good idea.
The slighly-shy-of a-hatchback styling, which makes me think of the Opel D-Kadett sedan version and the Citroen GS.