I thought the reason Talia ended up in an abandoned castle in the middle of the forest was a bit different. Her parents didn’t have the heart to bury her at first or were observing a proper mourning period of a week or two before burying her but they noticed something peculiar, instead of starting to rot like a normal corpse Talia didn’t visibly decay at all, almost as if she were simply sleeping. So rather than bury her they just put her back in her bedroom to hopefully sleep it off. Well time passed, in one of the versions she sleeps for 1000 years after all, between it having no heirs and whatever superstition might have arisen from the cursed princess the kingdom fell to ruin and was reclaimed by the forest with the castle being all that remained and Talia sleeping inside.
mom felt that it was important that children werent babied and were treated as if they could handle darker topics, so she read us all of the original versions before she'd let us watch the disney version, she also answered any and all questions we had. at 27 i'm very hard to scar or disturb at this point while many of the people i meet are too worried about how pc things are. my favorite movies growing up (age 6) were 'the hunchback of notredame', 'the black cauldron', the animated version of 'watership down' and 'the dark crystal', i also grew up watching yugioh before it got yanked down and heavily censored (my sister and i still laugh about the stupidity of the finger guns thing). my favorite show to watch with my parents every weekend was csi new york/csi miami/csi los vegas, as i got older it became 'bones' and 'ncis' as well. my grandparents called me abbey normal because of my alternative taste in highschool as a joke... my dad still calls me dr.bones (i do not get the resemblance, if anything i'm more like ange... my mom agrees) i think desensitization is important. both for children and for dogs.
I get your point, but I think it depends a lot on the personality of the child. Although I am grown up, I probably still wouldn't watch the movies you watched as a child.
I think the better part of your raising might've been your mom's willingness to discuss the topics inherent to the media she introduced. That's usually the gap people fail to manage when it comes to whatever their issue properties are.
Real life and real problems are not to be compared to fairytales anyways 😌. And can not. I learnt not to get easily panicked in real life situations. Not through fairytales, but by experience. After all, fall seven times get up eight. I read all original versions of fairytales too, but even as a kid I know it's just nonsense and just fairytales, exaggerated by some authors from long ago because they "like to get creative" . A lot of times I felt that the violence was pretty unnecessary, like Cinderella's sisters cutting off their toes to fit the shoe. So, I kinda like the Disney versions because as a kid I want to be Ariel. I don't care much about the violence and gore's, I think it's just silly.
I heard some of this story before but what I was told stopped at the baby sucking the om's finger and no mention of the fairies. However I think this was a warning to girls to protect yourself while sleeping.
@@SeekerOfTruth13 I have no idea (knife under the pillow?)? But it is a common theme in these stories men have no control over themselves. So girls must protect themselves and if father or husband don't trust them there is always the chastity belt. Or my personal favorite comes from China , where there eunuchs to work in the emperor's court to protect the royal bloodline
yeah i think someone would nltice if somebody was undressing them while asleep and they would wake up and try to scratch the person and run away and get a weapon or smt very specific ik
The story Disney did is actually also far away from the classic tale, whether it's now Basile, Perrault or Grimm. It's using rather elements from the Sleeping Beauty ballet, but also some other stories and tropes. They did in fact recycle some ideas from their original Snow White concept...
This version would be a great horror movie.. it would be one I'd be excited to see how they would create it and actually make it come to life threw flim.
You didn't mention what the chef did to Sun and Moon. The queen told him to cook them, but instead of cooking them, Hegave them to his wife to care for them. So, the cook made a nice lamb dinner for the King all while being taunted by the Queen. It adds a little mystery to the story. But, hey aside from the being taken advantage while un-conscious, the King dodged a bullet with Talia liking him. But, I wouldn't let him off with the bigamy thing, hey it's Talia . . . . not exactly FRACTURED FAIRYTALES, a decent story. THANKS SO MUCH.
This was the same guy who wrote The Flayed Old Lady. If y'all are curious to see a more realistic interpretation of Giambattista Basile's work, watch Tale of Tales. It features three of his stories from Il Pentamerone, including the Flayed Old Lady. Pretty disturbing stuff.
I always wonder why prince and princesses marry as teenagers and yet their parents are like grandparents, as if they decide not to use contraceptives after 45?
Theres A LOT of stories disney did that id love to see the source material its derived from be made into actual films or possibly tv shows, the kid versions just that, FOR KIDS adults may look back on it fondly showing it to their children or grandchildren but we gotta have the real thing at some point.
the film is not based on the original fairy tales its based off of the Sleeping Beauty Ballet not the original story. That is why you hear the score from the ballet in the movie, the song once upon a dream is music with lyrics added to it from the scene where she and the prince meat and in the ballet she is a teenager not almost a women. you also forgot unless this retelling came later, the prince's mother is a man eating Oger and she's the one wanting to et the sleeping beauty and her children.
me at the beginning of the video: ?what "dark turn"? me, as the video played: oh, yeah, _that_ dark t...? there's more? wait, ?what? the dark turn took a dark turn. and then took another one.
So Tahlia went into a deep sleep, a king found her and had an affair with her, she woke up after her child helped her, wake up with children, the Queen 'cooked' the children and then they got married
Actually this is one interruption of a story by the Brother's Grim. My research marks the tale of the brothers was older then this one, so that is where the actual story came from. This was but a spin off of the day and age.
Actually, Giambattista Basile's version was published in 1634. Charles Perrault's version was published in 1697 and the Grimm version was published in 1812. So... this one is older than the Grimm version.
I never cared for *Sleeping Beauty* all that much. After seeing two fairy tale adaptations, what point was there to this third duller one but visual artistry? It is the voice actors to make it what it is, and most do not know the movie flopped back in 1959. The only commercially failed Disney film that ever made this sort of comeback.
Yeah this one's kind of dark but have you heard of the French version of Little Red Riding Hood were grandma wolf ask Red Riding Hood to strip and she dose.
I don't like or dislike the past versions. I think they give us a glimpse into the past.I do dislike the modern versions..They are so white washed it feels bad.
From what I was told those old stories were written not to be nice fairy tales for your kids but were in fact written for parents to use to basically scare their children into line. Basically do what you're told or this is what will happen to you. Yeah back then stories weren't very nice lol
Kinda bugged me that every time you said the title you said THE sun, THE moon, and Talia...Sun and Moon are the twin's names and therefore are not things that require the word "the". Couldn't finish the video to be honest because it made my skin crawl lol
My childhood was already rocked when I read the original story of The Little Mermaid If your child likes Disney's Princess Ariel, don't let them read the Hans Christian Andersen version. Trust me, it won't end well, and you'll end up looking for a good child psychiatrist! 🤯📕🚫
what is the little mermaids version honestly i dont care for mermaids so i never watched disneys lil mermaid till yesterday cus i was bored so i dont know the original either
The original story was NOT called "THE sun, THE moon, and Talia". It's just "Sun, Moon, and Talia". The babies names were Sun and Moon. Triggered so hard in the first 10 seconds that I can't even finish the video. Come on, man, you SHOWED the book cover with title.
I thought the reason Talia ended up in an abandoned castle in the middle of the forest was a bit different. Her parents didn’t have the heart to bury her at first or were observing a proper mourning period of a week or two before burying her but they noticed something peculiar, instead of starting to rot like a normal corpse Talia didn’t visibly decay at all, almost as if she were simply sleeping. So rather than bury her they just put her back in her bedroom to hopefully sleep it off. Well time passed, in one of the versions she sleeps for 1000 years after all, between it having no heirs and whatever superstition might have arisen from the cursed princess the kingdom fell to ruin and was reclaimed by the forest with the castle being all that remained and Talia sleeping inside.
Most likely you heard one of the many, many, many rewrites the story under went over the ages.
Don't you mean 100 years, not 1000!
BTW, Sun and Moon are the names of Talia and king's children, a son and daughter.
mom felt that it was important that children werent babied and were treated as if they could handle darker topics, so she read us all of the original versions before she'd let us watch the disney version, she also answered any and all questions we had. at 27 i'm very hard to scar or disturb at this point while many of the people i meet are too worried about how pc things are. my favorite movies growing up (age 6) were 'the hunchback of notredame', 'the black cauldron', the animated version of 'watership down' and 'the dark crystal', i also grew up watching yugioh before it got yanked down and heavily censored (my sister and i still laugh about the stupidity of the finger guns thing). my favorite show to watch with my parents every weekend was csi new york/csi miami/csi los vegas, as i got older it became 'bones' and 'ncis' as well. my grandparents called me abbey normal because of my alternative taste in highschool as a joke... my dad still calls me dr.bones (i do not get the resemblance, if anything i'm more like ange... my mom agrees) i think desensitization is important. both for children and for dogs.
I get your point, but I think it depends a lot on the personality of the child. Although I am grown up, I probably still wouldn't watch the movies you watched as a child.
I think the better part of your raising might've been your mom's willingness to discuss the topics inherent to the media she introduced. That's usually the gap people fail to manage when it comes to whatever their issue properties are.
Real life and real problems are not to be compared to fairytales anyways 😌. And can not. I learnt not to get easily panicked in real life situations. Not through fairytales, but by experience. After all, fall seven times get up eight.
I read all original versions of fairytales too, but even as a kid I know it's just nonsense and just fairytales, exaggerated by some authors from long ago because they "like to get creative" . A lot of times I felt that the violence was pretty unnecessary, like Cinderella's sisters cutting off their toes to fit the shoe. So, I kinda like the Disney versions because as a kid I want to be Ariel. I don't care much about the violence and gore's, I think it's just silly.
You like watership down? You are super messed up
The Disney movie was based on the Charles Perrault version so it’s no wonder that it’s not as dark.
I heard some of this story before but what I was told stopped at the baby sucking the om's finger and no mention of the fairies. However I think this was a warning to girls to protect yourself while sleeping.
How are you supposed to protect yourself while sleeping? 🤔
@@SeekerOfTruth13 I have no idea (knife under the pillow?)? But it is a common theme in these stories men have no control over themselves. So girls must protect themselves and if father or husband don't trust them there is always the chastity belt. Or my personal favorite comes from China , where there eunuchs to work in the emperor's court to protect the royal bloodline
yeah i think someone would nltice if somebody was undressing them while asleep and they would wake up and try to scratch the person and run away and get a weapon or smt very specific ik
notice
The story Disney did is actually also far away from the classic tale, whether it's now Basile, Perrault or Grimm. It's using rather elements from the Sleeping Beauty ballet, but also some other stories and tropes. They did in fact recycle some ideas from their original Snow White concept...
That makes sense since the music in sleeping beauty is the music from the ballet
This version would be a great horror movie.. it would be one I'd be excited to see how they would create it and actually make it come to life threw flim.
Dude Disney is telling the back story of their villains…pitch this to them and see if they will make the original stories to their princesses
Let's face it, the only character in this story with a properly functioning brain was the cook. Maybe the fairies too.
This version better for only teenagers and adult 😅
The original stories were written for adults. The only reason they were changed was to make them more palatable for children.
Me being 12 😂
I like this version lol
Not even for teenagers.
Yeah I’m an adult and I’m watching this lol
I knew up to the baby sucking the splinter out but I didn't know about the fairies. The ending of the original is great!
I already knew this but hearing it again gives me more creeps.
Some father didn't even visit his dead daughter
I prefer the original versions of fairy/folk tales because they usually have a stronger moral tale than such produced from Hollywood/Disney.
You didn't mention what the chef did to Sun and Moon. The queen told him to cook them, but instead of cooking them, Hegave them to his wife to care for them. So, the cook made a nice lamb dinner for the King all while being taunted by the Queen. It adds a little mystery to the story. But, hey aside from the being taken advantage while un-conscious, the King dodged a bullet with Talia liking him. But, I wouldn't let him off with the bigamy thing, hey it's Talia . . . . not exactly FRACTURED FAIRYTALES, a decent story. THANKS SO MUCH.
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This was the same guy who wrote The Flayed Old Lady. If y'all are curious to see a more realistic interpretation of Giambattista Basile's work, watch Tale of Tales. It features three of his stories from Il Pentamerone, including the Flayed Old Lady. Pretty disturbing stuff.
I always wonder why prince and princesses marry as teenagers and yet their parents are like grandparents, as if they decide not to use contraceptives after 45?
Actually this was the story I read as a child, and I only learned Disney version when I was 19.
can relate except i still never watched the disney version cus i already know what happens
Yeah, this is actually a bedtime story
I haven’t known about Disney’s Version up until I was a teenager
This is brutal! All I want is a folk metal concept album about this by like... Nightwish or Therion or something. I haven't decided.
I love Nightwish! Fantasmic is one of my favorite songs that is based on Disney lore. 😍
I had never seen flax before, now I get why some people say that blonds have flaxen hair.
O.O Well! That IS f***ing different!
This sounds like a Game of Thrones plotline
The prince in the book gave Sleeping Beauty his sword when she was unconscious
Theres A LOT of stories disney did that id love to see the source material its derived from be made into actual films or possibly tv shows, the kid versions just that, FOR KIDS adults may look back on it fondly showing it to their children or grandchildren but we gotta have the real thing at some point.
This Version of the story is Creepy but it can be A dark fairytale for adults and teens
the film is not based on the original fairy tales its based off of the Sleeping Beauty Ballet not the original story. That is why you hear the score from the ballet in the movie, the song once upon a dream is music with lyrics added to it from the scene where she and the prince meat and in the ballet she is a teenager not almost a women. you also forgot unless this retelling came later, the prince's mother is a man eating Oger and she's the one wanting to et the sleeping beauty and her children.
I already know what brothers Grimm stories is about!😬
How can a flax splinter put someone to sleep for YEARS? That does not make any sense to me.
me at the beginning of the video: ?what "dark turn"?
me, as the video played: oh, yeah, _that_ dark t...? there's more? wait, ?what? the dark turn took a dark turn. and then took another one.
Applause to your comment about the execution block
👏🏼
So Tahlia went into a deep sleep, a king found her and had an affair with her, she woke up after her child helped her, wake up with children, the Queen 'cooked' the children and then they got married
Do a video of the original Peter Pan
Actually this is one interruption of a story by the Brother's Grim. My research marks the tale of the brothers was older then this one, so that is where the actual story came from. This was but a spin off of the day and age.
Ye
Actually, Giambattista Basile's version was published in 1634. Charles Perrault's version was published in 1697 and the Grimm version was published in 1812.
So... this one is older than the Grimm version.
Now I would love to see a live version of this movie me please 🤣
It was crazy! I liked it!
I never cared for *Sleeping Beauty* all that much. After seeing two fairy tale adaptations, what point was there to this third duller one but visual artistry? It is the voice actors to make it what it is, and most do not know the movie flopped back in 1959. The only commercially failed Disney film that ever made this sort of comeback.
I go off of the Brothers Grimm Sleeping Beauty. Not one story of the Brothers Grimm are meant for kids especially Sleeping Beauty.
Yeah this one's kind of dark but have you heard of the French version of Little Red Riding Hood were grandma wolf ask Red Riding Hood to strip and she dose.
...What
@@defect683 wolf on hood action
I didn’t like the prince at all in the book the prince is an awful person.
Thank you🥰
"Skip if you don't want your childhood ruined forever"
me: "B---- I watch FILM THEORY... My childhood is already ruined..."
I'm never gonna watch that movie again without thinking of this.
Wasn't the Queen part Ogress and ate people anyway?
Happily ever after my foot I pity the queen than talia
Reminds me of the Sleeping Beauty version of Anne Rice.
I thought it was going to end like original Snow White with necro, but it ended as good as it could've I guess
Oh, disney is not the one to thank for the version we know today. It was the brothers Grimm who changed it.
I wish you would go into detail about what the king did to her
please do the original Rapunzel as well...
Adultery is also a crime, and should be punished as such.
What did the Sun and Moon have to do with it?
I think the names of the twins are Sun and Moon.
Finding a sleeping woman in an abandoned castle the guy is lucky Geralt did not show up and take both thier heads
I like the sun, moon and Talia version better
I'm fricking 23 and I never new this
I thought her name was Aura?!
Aurora and briar rose were her names Aurora is her birth name the fairies changed it to briar rose when they raised her in the forest all those years
There's 3 stories Sleeping one Beauty she got Her lifeless body was assaulted
i like the versions that are less dark and creepy
I'm definitely not 10 and just ruined my childhood but I don't care😃
Adultery is a crime
This is a darker fairytale
I don't like or dislike the past versions. I think they give us a glimpse into the past.I do dislike the modern versions..They are so white washed it feels bad.
Well that was totally nasty with the molestation plus kids but the wife wanting them cooked blows it way over the top!
From what I was told those old stories were written not to be nice fairy tales for your kids but were in fact written for parents to use to basically scare their children into line. Basically do what you're told or this is what will happen to you. Yeah back then stories weren't very nice lol
That's VERRRRRRY diffrent.
Again the cook has a Conscience
Read the story again, the queen was actually the king's mother, not his wife. Furthermore, she was an ogre which was why she was so evil.
Most old fairy tales can be summed up in one word: misogyny
I'll stick with Disney thank you very much!!!
I DEFINITELY prefer the Disney version.
The sun the moon and Talia sounds like Mother Gothel from Tangled told it. Sheesh.
Every Disney is twisted
Not exactly a “meet cute” 🤢
Flaks=sex
Loss of Childhood....
This is the story that I loke
they should make this film
Me: -Just watching horror even though I’m young as heck-
*Same dw dw*
Kinda bugged me that every time you said the title you said THE sun, THE moon, and Talia...Sun and Moon are the twin's names and therefore are not things that require the word "the". Couldn't finish the video to be honest because it made my skin crawl lol
Original versions are so shocking
He made a room itoa tomb for her.
A man definitely wrote that.
i like this version more
you call that dark?
The thumbnail 💀
I don't particularly like that one I like the one that Walt Disney did better
But doesn't that make the prince and Talia, siblings???
This is the teadon that I antic multiverse bec he was always wit beter
Wow 😳🤯
My childhood was already rocked when I read the original story of The Little Mermaid
If your child likes Disney's Princess Ariel, don't let them read the Hans Christian Andersen version. Trust me, it won't end well, and you'll end up looking for a good child psychiatrist! 🤯📕🚫
My childhood was rocked too my Dad actually showed us the cartoon of Hans Christian Andersons version when we were little😰
what is the little mermaids version honestly i dont care for mermaids so i never watched disneys lil mermaid till yesterday cus i was bored so i dont know the original either
@@shoothead8106 the original ariel has her tongue cut out in exchange for legs. and she never got the prince in the end, she turned into seafoam
Oh wow!!!
Shits getting darker each day😳
This version is so cool.
The original story was NOT called "THE sun, THE moon, and Talia". It's just "Sun, Moon, and Talia". The babies names were Sun and Moon. Triggered so hard in the first 10 seconds that I can't even finish the video. Come on, man, you SHOWED the book cover with title.
The picture is CLICKBAIT
I figured as much.
Ogurt Who?
A child should never read this thankfully I'm not
Stories like these are most of the time bed stories for kids in Europe lol
Japi
The King is eating a turkey or chicken
Dor
Wow
Multivers