I love seeing the car absorbing the bumps, rolling and dipping, very softly sprung relative to other hypercar "peers". Nice to see someone understands driving is an experience comprising many senses, not just a lap time on paper.
Yeah it's surprisngly softly sprung given the way it moves over the bumps but the body control is excellent - the dampers allow some movement before stopping it. It definitely rides better than the F1. The low speed ride isn't brittle. Maybe some impact noise gets in through the tub (or maybe that's just those camera mounts). They benchmarked it against an Alpine A110 and everyone who reviewed that car was all praise for the ride and handling. It's definitely softer than most German saloons.
I'm sure Gordon has some tricks down his sleeves, but soft suspension can (depending on use and expectations ofc) ruin the driving experience. Generally you have to be slower on the controls in a softly sprung car and allow the car to distribute its weight before it really changes direction
@@martinfisker7438 The T50 is not that soft. Certain not Skoda Superb Indian edition soft. When cars get too soft the ride gets very bouncy, body roll becomes silly, movement control becomes poor and transient handling response is sluggish. A firm suspension therefore can also be much more comfortable if the dampers are good and you have enough rubber to filter out the noise and harshness and hard impact since it controls movement much better. What you don't want is suspension so stiff that the dampers don't get to do any work which means they absorb none of the impact forces -- your car would get upset on any bump or pothole then, lose contact with the ground and when you hit anything your spinal discs and butt are the only suspension. Being 986 kg, in absolute terms the T50 can be sprung much softer than a 1600 kg hypercar.
@@martinfisker7438 He used rising rate pushrod coupled to inboard dampers for this. It makes the suspension softer at lower speeds and firms up as the loading increases. Though it adds weight I guess it allows Gordon to add downforce without compromising wheel travel. Also unlike the F1, if customers want it firmer or softer, the GMA guys can adjust it however they want. Everything is adjustable, especially the dampers.
Most supercars today are actually very soft and comfortable. Ferrari's are more comfortable that 90% of family cars on the road. Mclaren's too. Porsche's as well apart from the GT and RS models.
@@jd32k I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I completely agree. IMO, it's sacrificing performance and drivability for nostalgia. The engine revs so damn fast that the throttle is insanely sensitive. Drivers will be lurching all over town. It'd be so much easier to just put your foot down and enjoy the ride with an auto instead of worrying about a clutch and shifting. I have a feeling a lot of people will wish they went with that automatic option once they try to drive this around town.
@@TheDCJason >much easier to just put your foot down and enjoy the ride with an auto Skip the foot part. Get on a roller coaster. It will be cheaper and fast. Or maybe pay for a cab since you dislike driving so much.
lmfao, automatic transmissions are superior in literally every way. WTF are you smoking? Sure, manual is a great experience, but we don't live in the 1980s anymore. Transmissions are faster than any human could possibly shift on, and cars that have a modern manual kit are far slower than their automatic/semi-automatic setups.
meh, it's another billionaire toy. You'll see one at some rich people car gatherings like cars and coffee. It will get driven form the garage to the hardpark area every few months. No one that can afford these cars are ever actually driving them.
Not at the expense of mass pollution, or only being available to scummy billionaires. If anything, products like this are an effect of an extremely unhealthy society.
Though I miss the powerful intake growl of the F1. In this it's there at low revs to some extent but not nearly the kind like a 60s Ferrari. The V12 noise clearly dominates.
Thank you for bringing us these videos, for us, mere mortals, who probably wont have a chance to experience this car in person. Its a joy to listen to it as it screams (as a proper supercar should) and the fact that you are making these in 2023 is mindblowing for me - given all the enviro-things and plugins and hybrids and what not. I wish I could shake hands with everyone who made this possible, because really, for me, it is a love letter to a proper analog supercar, with a V12, high revs......oooh..... So happy for everyone who can afford and enjoy this beauty. Piece of art
So nice to see a drivers car with a proper clutch and manual gearbox instead of the paddles. Engine is a work of art - sounds epic, (the sound is only bettered by the new BRM V16!). Good to see we still have great engineering in this country - great work.
@@rolux4853 A repro of the 1950's 1.5L supercharged F1 car commissioned by the Owen family who are relatives of the original latter owner of BRM. Think 3 have been built so far by Hall & Hall from the original technical drawings owned by the Owens. Just put BRM V16 in the search and lots of results will come up. A nice little film is amongst them entitled 'The Chrysalis' showing the engine being run on a Dyno. Enjoy the sound!!.
The T-50 shall go into history as the last great piece of automotive art, made by the last great artist Mr. Gotdon Murray. A worthy end to an epic era.
most people don't drive their cheap sports cars hard. I've rarely seen, IRL or online, an expensive car driven hard, outside of the top tier group at track days. A multimillion dollar car? I've only seen one person drive cars that expensive hard, and thats Christian von Koenigsegg
@@VengFPV fyi, that's a rich kid driving around his father's car collection. Supposedly they are a criminal family, which is why they have tried to keep their identities hidden.
I live just down the road from Millbrook proving ground and have seen the T50 on the road 3 times, once right next to me at the M1 J13 roundabout, what a glorious sound 😍
Not only is this car absolutely fantastic, making tears of joy come to my eyes when I hear this engine at full song, it's a manual. Thank God for Gordan Murray and the people he surrounds himself with!.
It makes a strange knocking noise when the wheel hits a bump though. Don't know if that is actually real. But it is benchmarked against an Alpine A110 and every review of that talks about how good the suspension balance on that is.
@@shauno1970 No it sounds like an impact noise definitely. Observe the latest top gear video. The car is quite compliant and surprisingly soft, but when it hits potholes at speeds it feels like a weird knocking noise, maybe because of the carbon tub. Maybe it's from the camera mounts.
I'm sure your day was better than mine Dario. What an awesome car Gordon is just amazing at building a car. I didn't think he could ever top the F1, but I believe he did. Just think about what he could have done to the F1 with today's Technology. Thanks Gordon and Dario, for these amazing videos.
I'd like to think that the guys who mowed the grass around the track so magnificently had a lawnmower that did at least 150 mph. The lines were so straight that they must be racing drivers.
Good show. Wonder whether Dario or Gareth would win a time trial race in T.50 on that circuit. It'd be a good race. Y'all are well on your way to 100K subscribers. Congrats on that and thanks for sharing with us.
Absolutely torcherous as I will never sit in one or hear the engine rev to that insanely orchestral redline.. I've already been tortured by the F1 having never seen it in the flesh in my life.. We can all be dreamers, maybe some of you who read this are driving a Mclaren 12C also my dream car to own.. I've just got 2 rover 200 BRMs that I sit and polish immaculately..
This is the only car I'll always suffer not being able to afford it. It's the pinnacle for me as a car guy, as if I (and others that love it) willed it into existence through Gordon, ha-ha! Everything about it being intentional blows my mind and is what makes it so desirable for me!
That was an eargasm ! Damn. PS: Why does the engine sounds like it’s vibrating at higher speed an in a higher gear? Gives the impression of the traction control cutting in and out at high frequency.
Sounds a bit like the Ferrari 333SP, or certainly inside it does. No higher compliment, as this and perhaps a Zonda R are the best sounding cars ever built...or maybe an F12 N-Largo.
It definitely sounded like he was holding back, even on the lap where he wasn’t talking. This track is too tight to really let it wind out. He needs some longer straights to really open it up.
Sounds really how the best should do . I have only one question ? The gear change sounds a bit fiddly and not a seamless transition on the up changes . Is that just because it has a h pattern and is a bit slower to select or is it Dario taking it a bit easier so he doesnt miss a gear . Just intrigued that's all as I noticed it on a few other videos .
I think he’s just taking the time to make good shifts. It’s just demo laps, not racing for a championship. I’m sure if it was really driven with aggression you could bang some pretty quick shifts.
There’s a weird harmonic on that engine somewhere around 9K or so in one of the higher gears (4th or 5th)? I’ve noticed it before, a sort of reverb sound like it’s out of balance or misfiring or something
Is it the sound of the forced induction? I'm not sure if it's unusual it would only bark at higher speeds, or just efficient. Or even if that sound you mention is induction at all. But I noticed it too.
Its not induction I’m hearing I don’t think, unless there’s a frequency that causes the floating air scoop to vibrate maybe? Dunno… Could be the TC but surprised if it was at that rpm, or unless it has another cam profile up at mid-high revs. Who knows!
@@gulben4389 There was that red prototype driving across Europe. That was launched good. And of course there's all the videos of it in Goodwood Festival of speed.
@@Matt.Schofield It’s naturally aspirated. The sound may just be the camera microphone acting weird. They sometimes struggle with loud noises and some frequencies.
I love seeing the car absorbing the bumps, rolling and dipping, very softly sprung relative to other hypercar "peers". Nice to see someone understands driving is an experience comprising many senses, not just a lap time on paper.
Yeah it's surprisngly softly sprung given the way it moves over the bumps but the body control is excellent - the dampers allow some movement before stopping it. It definitely rides better than the F1. The low speed ride isn't brittle. Maybe some impact noise gets in through the tub (or maybe that's just those camera mounts). They benchmarked it against an Alpine A110 and everyone who reviewed that car was all praise for the ride and handling. It's definitely softer than most German saloons.
I'm sure Gordon has some tricks down his sleeves, but soft suspension can (depending on use and expectations ofc) ruin the driving experience. Generally you have to be slower on the controls in a softly sprung car and allow the car to distribute its weight before it really changes direction
@@martinfisker7438 The T50 is not that soft. Certain not Skoda Superb Indian edition soft. When cars get too soft the ride gets very bouncy, body roll becomes silly, movement control becomes poor and transient handling response is sluggish. A firm suspension therefore can also be much more comfortable if the dampers are good and you have enough rubber to filter out the noise and harshness and hard impact since it controls movement much better. What you don't want is suspension so stiff that the dampers don't get to do any work which means they absorb none of the impact forces -- your car would get upset on any bump or pothole then, lose contact with the ground and when you hit anything your spinal discs and butt are the only suspension. Being 986 kg, in absolute terms the T50 can be sprung much softer than a 1600 kg hypercar.
@@martinfisker7438 He used rising rate pushrod coupled to inboard dampers for this. It makes the suspension softer at lower speeds and firms up as the loading increases. Though it adds weight I guess it allows Gordon to add downforce without compromising wheel travel. Also unlike the F1, if customers want it firmer or softer, the GMA guys can adjust it however they want. Everything is adjustable, especially the dampers.
Most supercars today are actually very soft and comfortable. Ferrari's are more comfortable that 90% of family cars on the road. Mclaren's too. Porsche's as well apart from the GT and RS models.
Simply being manual makes this great car two times greater.
How? Far too much power to be putting through a manual set up
@@jd32k I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I completely agree. IMO, it's sacrificing performance and drivability for nostalgia. The engine revs so damn fast that the throttle is insanely sensitive. Drivers will be lurching all over town. It'd be so much easier to just put your foot down and enjoy the ride with an auto instead of worrying about a clutch and shifting. I have a feeling a lot of people will wish they went with that automatic option once they try to drive this around town.
@@TheDCJason >much easier to just put your foot down and enjoy the ride with an auto
Skip the foot part. Get on a roller coaster. It will be cheaper and fast. Or maybe pay for a cab since you dislike driving so much.
Gordon baby❤❤❤❤
lmfao, automatic transmissions are superior in literally every way. WTF are you smoking?
Sure, manual is a great experience, but we don't live in the 1980s anymore. Transmissions are faster than any human could possibly shift on, and cars that have a modern manual kit are far slower than their automatic/semi-automatic setups.
A perfect mechanical symphony! No fake mumbo jumbo, no synthesized crap, just pure perfection!
The Cosworth soundtrack is amazing. I’m so happy to hear it! Quite a tune is being played. Thank you for sharing 👍
No autotune needed
not a patch on LFA
Just like the F1, I hope to see one of these with my own eyes.
meh, it's another billionaire toy. You'll see one at some rich people car gatherings like cars and coffee. It will get driven form the garage to the hardpark area every few months. No one that can afford these cars are ever actually driving them.
What a car, developer and ambassador! 👍🏻
The world still needs some vehicles on the road to sound like this naturally.
Not at the expense of mass pollution, or only being available to scummy billionaires. If anything, products like this are an effect of an extremely unhealthy society.
@@sqlevoliciousIm gonna blow your eardrums with my v12 when flying by
Is it healthy
those gears sound so smooth its unreal
I don’t think we could ever have as much fun as you are driving that incredible machine!
The sound is just crazy
Though I miss the powerful intake growl of the F1. In this it's there at low revs to some extent but not nearly the kind like a 60s Ferrari. The V12 noise clearly dominates.
@@srinitaaigaura you can replace webers making espresso out of gasoline, but the mechanical complexity and layered depth to this noise is incredible
Thank you for bringing us these videos, for us, mere mortals, who probably wont have a chance to experience this car in person. Its a joy to listen to it as it screams (as a proper supercar should) and the fact that you are making these in 2023 is mindblowing for me - given all the enviro-things and plugins and hybrids and what not. I wish I could shake hands with everyone who made this possible, because really, for me, it is a love letter to a proper analog supercar, with a V12, high revs......oooh..... So happy for everyone who can afford and enjoy this beauty. Piece of art
this car is 100% my faivorute car off all time
I teared up at 2:28, that sound is beyond a name
This car has only one reason to exist, to be the most fun to drive at all times, ever! What a sound!!
Dario’s exits were perfection
Wow! Man that euphonious engine roar is addictive!
2:25 such a tingle went down my back what an engine!
So nice to see a drivers car with a proper clutch and manual gearbox instead of the paddles.
Engine is a work of art - sounds epic, (the sound is only bettered by the new BRM V16!).
Good to see we still have great engineering in this country - great work.
A new V16? For what car is it? I’m really curious!
@@rolux4853 A repro of the 1950's 1.5L supercharged F1 car commissioned by the Owen family who are relatives of the original latter owner of BRM.
Think 3 have been built so far by Hall & Hall from the original technical drawings owned by the Owens.
Just put BRM V16 in the search and lots of results will come up.
A nice little film is amongst them entitled 'The Chrysalis' showing the engine being run on a Dyno.
Enjoy the sound!!.
The T-50 shall go into history as the last great piece of automotive art, made by the last great artist Mr. Gotdon Murray. A worthy end to an epic era.
Best car ever built 👌
@@radityomuhamad2526 W140? Hahaha! Great joke.
Clearly the Dacia Sandero
I would give this title to the 911 but the t50 is clearly way up there
Epic - I just hope the lucky owners drive them (hard) and not let them sit in a garage. That rear camera shot was awesome.
most people don't drive their cheap sports cars hard. I've rarely seen, IRL or online, an expensive car driven hard, outside of the top tier group at track days. A multimillion dollar car? I've only seen one person drive cars that expensive hard, and thats Christian von Koenigsegg
@@mm6705 Eh, there's a guy on youtube that does gymkhana round his farm, in an F40 GT lmao
@@VengFPV hell yeah! ill check that out!
the way this car and company is and the way it's been developed, I wouldn't be surprised if half the owners were pro race car drivers
@@VengFPV fyi, that's a rich kid driving around his father's car collection. Supposedly they are a criminal family, which is why they have tried to keep their identities hidden.
Not the fastest but the greatest.
Даже лучше чем я думал, а ведь он просто гнал в своё удовольствие
Glorious! Thank you!
Dario: We'll go a liiitle quicker this lap
T50: Bwahhhhhhhhhhh!
I can always click like before I watch, never dissapointed
Probably the greatest sounding car ever
I live just down the road from Millbrook proving ground and have seen the T50 on the road 3 times, once right next to me at the M1 J13 roundabout, what a glorious sound 😍
Supercar that surpasses others in so many segments, in many it is unbeatable even for hypercars
I did not have as much fun as Dario did!
A brilliant 12-piece orchestra delivering the most dramatic Wagner.
amazing engine, old f1 like sound.
Thanks for the ride!
The best motor made for street until now and probably for all time
It's always nice to see Dario behind the wheel.
Not only is this car absolutely fantastic, making tears of joy come to my eyes when I hear this engine at full song, it's a manual. Thank God for Gordan Murray and the people he surrounds himself with!.
What a sound, mechanical music.
This car will set the standard for the next 2 decades.
Dario, this is spectacular.
Would have been nice to show the rev counter in an insert :)
It looks so pliant and comfortable over those bumps. Its going to be lovely on UK roads
It makes a strange knocking noise when the wheel hits a bump though. Don't know if that is actually real. But it is benchmarked against an Alpine A110 and every review of that talks about how good the suspension balance on that is.
@@srinitaaigaura I think that noise might be the traction control cutting in.
@@shauno1970 No it sounds like an impact noise definitely. Observe the latest top gear video. The car is quite compliant and surprisingly soft, but when it hits potholes at speeds it feels like a weird knocking noise, maybe because of the carbon tub. Maybe it's from the camera mounts.
I'm sure your day was better than mine Dario. What an awesome car Gordon is just amazing at building a car. I didn't think he could ever top the F1, but I believe he did. Just think about what he could have done to the F1 with today's Technology. Thanks Gordon and Dario, for these amazing videos.
I think this is the F1 with today's tech
Umm that IS what the T50 is friend. This is basically the McLaren F1 2.0. The Architecture is identical in every way.
It's truly impressive hypercar
Listen to that sweet engine song!!! Oh yeah 👌
when I hear this engine revving up -- I can hardly believe Miss Physics could chant any higher
Landmark kinda car. Already one of the all time greats. What a machine!!
This car must be the most enjoyable car you could possibly drive. Gordan murray knows how to build a car
*watching the aero brakes activate* STR TOMAHAWK INTENSIFES
This car is worth a billion dollars
One day it will be
I'd like to think that the guys who mowed the grass around the track so magnificently had a lawnmower that did at least 150 mph. The lines were so straight that they must be racing drivers.
This Car is a Dream!
What a glorious noise!
'So, we will go a little quicker this lap' That noise!! As Picard would say 'Engage..'
Good show. Wonder whether Dario or Gareth would win a time trial race in T.50 on that circuit. It'd be a good race. Y'all are well on your way to 100K subscribers. Congrats on that and thanks for sharing with us.
This guy has the best job on the planet.
G*damn it sounds amazing!
That sound!!!
That sound....👌
Absolutely torcherous as I will never sit in one or hear the engine rev to that insanely orchestral redline.. I've already been tortured by the F1 having never seen it in the flesh in my life.. We can all be dreamers, maybe some of you who read this are driving a Mclaren 12C also my dream car to own.. I've just got 2 rover 200 BRMs that I sit and polish immaculately..
This is the only car I'll always suffer not being able to afford it. It's the pinnacle for me as a car guy, as if I (and others that love it) willed it into existence through Gordon, ha-ha! Everything about it being intentional blows my mind and is what makes it so desirable for me!
Beautiful!
This and the Valkyrie are what the automotive world needs right now!
Glorious!
I'm throwing away my sound machine and falling asleep to the sound of that engine from now on. 😴
This car is a masterpiece. Just because is manual. I wish all supercars had manual transmissions.
That was an eargasm ! Damn. PS: Why does the engine sounds like it’s vibrating at higher speed an in a higher gear? Gives the impression of the traction control cutting in and out at high frequency.
dare i say it sounds like a small misfire like when a coil pack is weak or dead?
@@ayboogie420 yes definite misfire
Beautiful 🤩
Eargasm inducing engine noises at 2:22
Omg got goosebumps
Please make this car into a high quality mod for games like assetto corsa, and maybe even beamng
OH. MY. GOD. !!
Lads, please inset a POV cam throughout - for the full driving experience thanks..
You're the men!
Blimey! What a sound!! I’d love to take a passenger ride in that beautiful car to experience the sound and pull of that Cosworth v12
Let ´er SCREAM, Dario, give ´er them beans !
Is that car for europe with the shifter being on the right? Absolute masterpiece. Thought there was no way to top the Mclaren F1. Wow!
This video finally dispels the myth that only Dario Franchitti is allowed to drive the T50.
I'd love to know how it compares to one of the current hypercars with more power and weight.
Three words: Oh my God!
would love to see how you 3 guys perform against each other in this car on this track
I love this music instrument. Sounds really good to my hears ❤
exhaust audio recorded by helmet microphone?
Good lord that engine
That might be the best "sound" I've ever heard.
Dang that was more than a little quicker Dario...
Sounds a bit like the Ferrari 333SP, or certainly inside it does. No higher compliment, as this and perhaps a Zonda R are the best sounding cars ever built...or maybe an F12 N-Largo.
Finally a good car
the sound, though...
Thankyou for saving me £2.5m to experience this car.
Ciao Dario
Grazie Gordon
how about making an Everything needs to go sale on the T.50?
Already gone... 🤭
How similar is the Cosworth V12 in the Aston Martin Valkyrie to the one in the T.50?
It's slightly newer and more advanced.
Amazing sound! Would love to hear it being driven a bit more in anger though just to hear that engine some more!
It definitely sounded like he was holding back, even on the lap where he wasn’t talking. This track is too tight to really let it wind out. He needs some longer straights to really open it up.
Why is the gear shift on the right hand side?
Looks fun
Sounds really how the best should do . I have only one question ? The gear change sounds a bit fiddly and not a seamless transition on the up changes . Is that just because it has a h pattern and is a bit slower to select or is it Dario taking it a bit easier so he doesnt miss a gear . Just intrigued that's all as I noticed it on a few other videos .
I think he’s just taking the time to make good shifts. It’s just demo laps, not racing for a championship. I’m sure if it was really driven with aggression you could bang some pretty quick shifts.
Can you order with the gear level on the left?
There’s a weird harmonic on that engine somewhere around 9K or so in one of the higher gears (4th or 5th)? I’ve noticed it before, a sort of reverb sound like it’s out of balance or misfiring or something
Is it the sound of the forced induction? I'm not sure if it's unusual it would only bark at higher speeds, or just efficient. Or even if that sound you mention is induction at all. But I noticed it too.
Its not induction I’m hearing I don’t think, unless there’s a frequency that causes the floating air scoop to vibrate maybe? Dunno… Could be the TC but surprised if it was at that rpm, or unless it has another cam profile up at mid-high revs. Who knows!
@@gulben4389 Scared? Lol. There are videos of this car launching.
@@gulben4389 There was that red prototype driving across Europe. That was launched good. And of course there's all the videos of it in Goodwood Festival of speed.
@@Matt.Schofield It’s naturally aspirated. The sound may just be the camera microphone acting weird. They sometimes struggle with loud noises and some frequencies.
Its sounds like a motorcycle in 4 wheels ❤
Why it kept missing? Traction control, or valve train issue?