Just besides the water resistance, there is something about the design that is simply better on the skx013, I just bought mine for $300, I believe the price will increase even more , it’s an iconic seiko watch.
Nice review. In 2023, buying a automatic watch that doesnt hand wind or hack doesnt make sense. Hand winding is practical feature and useful. There is a reason manufacturers included that feature in modern movments. SKX013 isnt cheap any more . For a new piece it can cost upto $500 upwards now. It was introduced in 1996 . The SRPK is 100 mts/328 feet WR so it is more than capable for swimming in oceans for 99.9% of the swimmers.
While I prefer the new model, and while I do understand why people like hacking and hand winding, I personally don't need them. For me, it is even faster to set a watch that doesn't hack. I also find hand winding useless because all you need to do to set it is to get the seconds hand going, and a gentle wobble is more than enough for that. Some high end watches that don't feature hacking are made by Patek Philippe, F. P. Journe and Philippe Dufour, among others. It's interesting how we all have different tastes even when it comes to features like that :)
@@kresimirpleic I do a desk computer job. I have experienced personally that with all my wrist movements, an automatic watch suffers from accuracy and there is a need for manual winding. Secondly maual winding was introduced by manufacturers based on the demand for it. Otherwise they would have continued with movements like 7S26 foreever and wouldnt have introduced the 4R36 as an improvement
Since they don't manufacture the SKX013 anymore, I bought a used one which costs a lot more than its original MSRP. But because of the faded orange "Diver's 200m" description above the 6 o'clock and a clicking bracelet due to a broken bead, I returned it. Instead, I got the Citizen Eco-Drive Promaster Dive at 37mm or 1mm smaller than the SKX and with an aftermarket jubilee bracelet, it is an awesome replacement. It's a true dive watch. That made me stop looking for another used SKX013.
Between the two, I pick the skx. However, in my opinion, both watches are currently overpriced for what you get. The srpk will most likely come down in price closer to the srpd. The skx will probably continue to climb, within reason. If you have to have the "legacy" of the skx, well that is what it is. If not, there are a lot of other options in this price bracket. I mean, for around the same money (sometimes less), you can get a seiko prospex diver or turtle diver, even a samurai. Also, it has to be said. Orient, glycene and citizen are also worth a look if youre looking at the srpd/srpk/skx.
@@turnbasedtoddy7664 that's an incredible price. I've seen the srpd that low, but not the srpk. Just the usual culprits in that price range. Orient, Timex, some citizens, even casio. I do think (depending on what you're looking for) seko is kind of falling behind on what you're getting. I think they rely a little too heavy on the name on the dial. And rightfully so in many ways. I just think Seiko has now made their "sweet spot" in the $5-600-$1000 range. I mean, the Seiko srpd is obviously targeted directly at the orient ray/mako/kamasu line (for example) the ray/mako can be found for well under $150 (I've seen as low as $120 new) and has 200 meters of water resistance, threaded crown, etc. And the kamasu has "better" features on paper and is still cracking under $200. Just thinking out loud. I'd still own and wear any of these seikos and own other seikos. I just think they have lost their way slightly in the very entry level market. And this may be on purpose.
True, I don’t regret my decision to have bought a skx013 instead of a new srpk29, its like owning bitcoins, price will increase, it feels good to own a piece that’s been discontinued.
Great video. I have two of the new SRPK watches, teal green and champagne and like them a lot. Perhaps I might pick up the black model from this video, as I liked the look. FWIW... I'm an old military guy and could not use a watch without hacking. I've been in too many briefings where everyone had to match their watches to the Commander's watch (his is always right😊), and that can't happen if everyone's second hand is on different random places on the dial. Every morning, I sync my watch of the day to my atomic clock and press on. My OCD would kill me if I couldn't hack my watch. YMMV.
I have the 013. It's not really a big deal. Prices only went up because it's discontinued. The 29 is more of a divers look watch but so what. Who is actually diving using a 013. I would NOT. The 29 also looks more clean imo.
Seiko had every chance to increase profits by upgrading the SKX's bracelet, crystal, and movement. Instead they released a diver-style watch nobody wants. I am building a SKX013 with an OEM dial and bezel, and it will have sapphire, an NH36A, and a solid link bracelet with screws (the watch Seiko should have made).
Good for you! However I do think that many people like and are buying the new SRPD\SRPK's nonetheless. Seiko has to work within certain price constraints. Yes they could have made a proper SKX013 V2 but the price would have been in the 700-900$ range I think which would have priced out many consumers.
Another great and informative upload. One of the major watch online publishers ought to employ you for their channel.. anyone at Seiko listening!! Ha ha.
They do it but I've only seen it on their more expensive models like SPB143 or the mid tier solar SNE's like my SNE583. For the more affordable models with 18mm clasp, they use a shorter, more basic clasp with no divers extension and less real estate for micro adjusts.
Hello, can you confirm which new clasp you put on the SRPK29 ? I just purchased the same watch and looking for a new clasp with the 3 micro holes. And to confirm is it a new clasp with the OEM bracelet ? Thanks in advance !
The SKX bracelet can be worn with the SRPK if you use the thinner spring bars, but not a good match visually. End link extends too far past the SRPK lugs.
The SKX is expensive today. True. But why... because people are willing to pay the higher prices for this true and classic diver. Watches (in good condition) will be more rare in the future so i guess they will keep their price oretty well...
I bought a skx013 today and paid $350 for it with an original rubber strap, two nato's and and a Miltat stainless steal. I think that was a a good deal for a watch from 2020. I've owned a skx007 and never cared for the jubilee bracelet because it felt cheap and made a lot of noises
Yes. Other parts are not interchangeable between the two watches though. This provides a good rundown usa.crystaltimes.net/modding-the-new-seiko-5-sports-38mm-srpk29-srpk31-srpk33-and-srpk35/
to be honest, some people are afraid showering with their watches on, a certified diver will take away that fear... i hope, a 10 ATM also to some people who really go swimming is quite risky without a screw-down crown
I don't shower with my watches on and don't find myself swimming that often but when I do, I wear one of my G-Shocks. I've modded some of my mechanical watches so wouldn't want to take a chance.
I thought it wasn't necessarily the actuall water you had to worry about in the shower but the hot steam penetrating the seals. Idk I wear my watch everywhere but the shower. Rather just take a watch off for 15 minutes than have something happen
Have you tried putting the 5KX oyster bracelet to the SKX? Does it fit? I’m looking for an oyster bracelet with female endlinks that would fit the 013.
It fits. But the 5KX bracelet is utter garbage. Not even the links throughout are solid and you can see the "seams" on the sides of it. Long Island Watch has a bracelet with female solid endlinks + solid links + milled clasp for the 013. They sell the "female endlink conversion kit" separatedly.
@@tiagodvt Saw LIW offering, but unfortunately I’m not in the US and the shipping fee is very expensive. Do you own it? How’s the quality? Is it on par with Uncle, Strapcode, and the bunch?
@@mr_jbe I do own one bracelet from them, but not that particular one. I own one for the Orient Ray. I guess the quality would be the same as the one for the 013. I like mine. I also had to import it - I am in Europe. Uncle, I've never experienced. Strapcode I have experienced way too many and I certainly don't want another one. They have too many QC problems for my taste. Clasps are not well finished, they are hard to close, their bracelets links don't flow as they should and get stuck together, etc. My LIW bracelet had none of that, it was very good. And it still is, I wear it regularly. But then again I only experienced one of them.
The 5KX bracelet does technically fit and you could wear it on the SKX if you used the thinner spring bars that come with the 5KX bracelet. However I don't think it looks good. The SKX lugs extend past the 5KX end link and a lot of the case between the lugs is now showing. Plus the thinner spring bars makes the end link a bit jiggly. The SKX bracelet can be worn with the 5KX if you use the thinner spring bars, but again not a good match. End link extends too far past the 5KX lugs.
After watching this video I’ve gone out and purchased the newer one but I’ve now looked at the reference I just purchased and it’s a SRPD55K1 is this the same as the SRPK?
5kx line has nothing to do with the original skx..and I'm not talking about the specs, but also about the design, the dial etc. Seiko skx is a very good investment. You will be able to buy a new old stock skx for a few thousand in a few years...if you can find one of course. Nothing that came out on the market from Seiko in recent years or other models are like skx..whatever some say. It is already considered vintage since was produced from 1996, but they are also rare because no one really sells the SKX007 anymore, being very collectible. It will be quite difficult to catch an unmodified skx in the next years. I personally just bought 3 new old stock from an individual who had 6 skx007, brand new, $240 each. When I called to get more...they were already sold... Wait 5 years from now...people will be able to trade a nos skx..for a Rolex. Why? Because Rolex is still produced...while Skx is no longer produced and has become a classic neo-vintage tool.
BEZEL AND SECOND HAND DIFFERENT SO WHY STOP AND BUILD ANOTHER THE SAME. SAME AS CARS. IVE GOT THE SKX013 AND THE TUNA SBBN031. SEIKO MUST HAVE NOW HUNDREDS OF THE SAME STYLE
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Forgot to mention in video that a big downside with the SKX013 if you change straps often is that it does not have drilled lug holes !
SKX013 is just a timeless beauty
Just besides the water resistance, there is something about the design that is simply better on the skx013, I just bought mine for $300, I believe the price will increase even more , it’s an iconic seiko watch.
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I just placed a bid on one. Fingers crossed I get mine for less!
Awesome 😎 comparison. I’d pick the SKX013 as well 👍🏻
Nice review. In 2023, buying a automatic watch that doesnt hand wind or hack doesnt make sense. Hand winding is practical feature and useful. There is a reason manufacturers included that feature in modern movments. SKX013 isnt cheap any more . For a new piece it can cost upto $500 upwards now. It was introduced in 1996 . The SRPK is 100 mts/328 feet WR so it is more than capable for swimming in oceans for 99.9% of the swimmers.
While I prefer the new model, and while I do understand why people like hacking and hand winding, I personally don't need them. For me, it is even faster to set a watch that doesn't hack. I also find hand winding useless because all you need to do to set it is to get the seconds hand going, and a gentle wobble is more than enough for that. Some high end watches that don't feature hacking are made by Patek Philippe, F. P. Journe and Philippe Dufour, among others. It's interesting how we all have different tastes even when it comes to features like that :)
@@kresimirpleic I do a desk computer job. I have experienced personally that with all my wrist movements, an automatic watch suffers from accuracy and there is a need for manual winding. Secondly maual winding was introduced by manufacturers based on the demand for it. Otherwise they would have continued with movements like 7S26 foreever and wouldnt have introduced the 4R36 as an improvement
The older one just has that X factor when it comes to design queues. Very happy with mine that I’ve worn for 6 years
The SKX013 is definitely better and a timeless piece.
I bought my skx013 back in 2018 for $200. Im glad i did lol
Very good comparison. Probably the only one of its kind on TH-cam 👍👍
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Since they don't manufacture the SKX013 anymore, I bought a used one which costs a lot more than its original MSRP. But because of the faded orange "Diver's 200m" description above the 6 o'clock and a clicking bracelet due to a broken bead, I returned it. Instead, I got the Citizen Eco-Drive Promaster Dive at 37mm or 1mm smaller than the SKX and with an aftermarket jubilee bracelet, it is an awesome replacement. It's a true dive watch. That made me stop looking for another used SKX013.
I tried on that 37mm Promaster Diver while I was in watch shop. I found it looked too small on my wrist and seems more like 36mm
Between the two, I pick the skx. However, in my opinion, both watches are currently overpriced for what you get. The srpk will most likely come down in price closer to the srpd. The skx will probably continue to climb, within reason. If you have to have the "legacy" of the skx, well that is what it is. If not, there are a lot of other options in this price bracket. I mean, for around the same money (sometimes less), you can get a seiko prospex diver or turtle diver, even a samurai. Also, it has to be said. Orient, glycene and citizen are also worth a look if youre looking at the srpd/srpk/skx.
Bro I don’t see how the SRPK is overpriced. I bought mine for $227. What else you going to get besides something from aliexpress for that price?
@@turnbasedtoddy7664 that's an incredible price. I've seen the srpd that low, but not the srpk. Just the usual culprits in that price range. Orient, Timex, some citizens, even casio. I do think (depending on what you're looking for) seko is kind of falling behind on what you're getting. I think they rely a little too heavy on the name on the dial. And rightfully so in many ways. I just think Seiko has now made their "sweet spot" in the $5-600-$1000 range. I mean, the Seiko srpd is obviously targeted directly at the orient ray/mako/kamasu line (for example) the ray/mako can be found for well under $150 (I've seen as low as $120 new) and has 200 meters of water resistance, threaded crown, etc. And the kamasu has "better" features on paper and is still cracking under $200. Just thinking out loud. I'd still own and wear any of these seikos and own other seikos. I just think they have lost their way slightly in the very entry level market. And this may be on purpose.
The SKX013 will be more collectable in the future as well.
True, I don’t regret my decision to have bought a skx013 instead of a new srpk29, its like owning bitcoins, price will increase, it feels good to own a piece that’s been discontinued.
Great video.
I have two of the new SRPK watches, teal green and champagne and like them a lot. Perhaps I might pick up the black model from this video, as I liked the look.
FWIW... I'm an old military guy and could not use a watch without hacking. I've been in too many briefings where everyone had to match their watches to the Commander's watch (his is always right😊), and that can't happen if everyone's second hand is on different random places on the dial. Every morning, I sync my watch of the day to my atomic clock and press on. My OCD would kill me if I couldn't hack my watch. YMMV.
Wow I do the same thing every morning!😆 Thanks for the comment.
considered both and chose srpk29 bcthey look the same once you put the bezel insert from the 013 and the 29 dial has fancier applied markers.
No one wants to admit the SRPK is better 😂
I have the 013.
It's not really a big deal. Prices only went up because it's discontinued.
The 29 is more of a divers look watch but so what. Who is actually diving using a 013. I would NOT.
The 29 also looks more clean imo.
I don't like screw down crowns unless I'm really diving with the watch. That's a simple choice for me.
SKX But it's a discontinued Legend🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Seiko skx 013❤
My solution to this dilemma...I bought the SRPE93 Turtle.
Seiko had every chance to increase profits by upgrading the SKX's bracelet, crystal, and movement. Instead they released a diver-style watch nobody wants. I am building a SKX013 with an OEM dial and bezel, and it will have sapphire, an NH36A, and a solid link bracelet with screws (the watch Seiko should have made).
Good for you! However I do think that many people like and are buying the new SRPD\SRPK's nonetheless. Seiko has to work within certain price constraints. Yes they could have made a proper SKX013 V2 but the price would have been in the 700-900$ range I think which would have priced out many consumers.
Another great and informative upload. One of the major watch online publishers ought to employ you for their channel.. anyone at Seiko listening!! Ha ha.
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Can we adjust the time counter clockwise if the watch has hacking feature?
I think at this point I'll build my own SKX or I'll just go with the islander. I don't plan on reselling anyways.
I thought about building one but it would have been more expensive for me
I like this watch but there is only 2 adjustment holes. Why can't they do an other 4 or 5 holes?
They do it but I've only seen it on their more expensive models like SPB143 or the mid tier solar SNE's like my SNE583. For the more affordable models with 18mm clasp, they use a shorter, more basic clasp with no divers extension and less real estate for micro adjusts.
Hello, can you confirm which new clasp you put on the SRPK29 ? I just purchased the same watch and looking for a new clasp with the 3 micro holes. And to confirm is it a new clasp with the OEM bracelet ? Thanks in advance !
I like the ones from Uncle Seiko unclestraps.com/collections/clasps/products/replacement-clasps. Yes, I just added it to the OEM bracelet.
hi! i have a question: the jubilee skx013 fits in srpk?thanks
The SKX bracelet can be worn with the SRPK if you use the thinner spring bars, but not a good match visually. End link extends too far past the SRPK lugs.
The SKX is expensive today. True. But why... because people are willing to pay the higher prices for this true and classic diver. Watches (in good condition) will be more rare in the future so i guess they will keep their price oretty well...
I bought a skx013 today and paid $350 for it with an original rubber strap, two nato's and and a Miltat stainless steal. I think that was a a good deal for a watch from 2020. I've owned a skx007 and never cared for the jubilee bracelet because it felt cheap and made a lot of noises
Hello! Is the Bezel insert size of SKX same as the SRPK?
Yes. Other parts are not interchangeable between the two watches though. This provides a good rundown usa.crystaltimes.net/modding-the-new-seiko-5-sports-38mm-srpk29-srpk31-srpk33-and-srpk35/
@@watchify1775 Thanks for the input sir!
Is the SRPK thinner than the SKX even though it has a glass caseback? Or did you get the numbers reversed at 6:05?
No. The SRPK is definitely the thinner of the two.
to be honest, some people are afraid showering with their watches on, a certified diver will take away that fear... i hope, a 10 ATM also to some people who really go swimming is quite risky without a screw-down crown
I don't shower with my watches on and don't find myself swimming that often but when I do, I wear one of my G-Shocks. I've modded some of my mechanical watches so wouldn't want to take a chance.
I thought it wasn't necessarily the actuall water you had to worry about in the shower but the hot steam penetrating the seals. Idk I wear my watch everywhere but the shower. Rather just take a watch off for 15 minutes than have something happen
Have you tried putting the 5KX oyster bracelet to the SKX? Does it fit? I’m looking for an oyster bracelet with female endlinks that would fit the 013.
I have not tried it yet since the skx doesn't have drilled lug holes but will soon
It fits. But the 5KX bracelet is utter garbage. Not even the links throughout are solid and you can see the "seams" on the sides of it. Long Island Watch has a bracelet with female solid endlinks + solid links + milled clasp for the 013. They sell the "female endlink conversion kit" separatedly.
@@tiagodvt Saw LIW offering, but unfortunately I’m not in the US and the shipping fee is very expensive.
Do you own it? How’s the quality? Is it on par with Uncle, Strapcode, and the bunch?
@@mr_jbe I do own one bracelet from them, but not that particular one. I own one for the Orient Ray. I guess the quality would be the same as the one for the 013. I like mine. I also had to import it - I am in Europe. Uncle, I've never experienced. Strapcode I have experienced way too many and I certainly don't want another one. They have too many QC problems for my taste. Clasps are not well finished, they are hard to close, their bracelets links don't flow as they should and get stuck together, etc. My LIW bracelet had none of that, it was very good. And it still is, I wear it regularly. But then again I only experienced one of them.
The 5KX bracelet does technically fit and you could wear it on the SKX if you used the thinner spring bars that come with the 5KX bracelet. However I don't think it looks good. The SKX lugs extend past the 5KX end link and a lot of the case between the lugs is now showing. Plus the thinner spring bars makes the end link a bit jiggly. The SKX bracelet can be worn with the 5KX if you use the thinner spring bars, but again not a good match. End link extends too far past the 5KX lugs.
May i ask if the end link of the srpk bracelet will fit skx013?
I later checked that and no the lug shapes are not exactly the same.
@@watchify1775 Thank you sir.
There’s not much difference looks wise is there? I’m so confused on which one to choose if I were to get one
Newer one 👍
After watching this video I’ve gone out and purchased the newer one but I’ve now looked at the reference I just purchased and it’s a SRPD55K1 is this the same as the SRPK?
@@hsvr No it is not. SRPD is larger 42mm that has been out since 2019. SRPK is smaller 38mm version that just came out
@@watchify1775thanks I’ve subbed! How long has it officially been out?
@@hsvr came out officially May 12th
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I've owned an skx013 since 2018, likely due for a service.
Does anyone have idea if i could swap 4R36 to an skx013?
It would be best of both worlds.
Yup. You could replace the 7S with a 4R36 no prob.
Honey wake up, there's new dumb things to get mad over a watch.
Skx013 better
The newer one is much better
Two words - DIVER'S 200m. That's why I have an SKX007 on my wrist right now.
I bet you dive a lot
The one time I went scuba diving, I was wearing a G-Shock. Which actually is more useful under water than a "dive" watch
I'm not a fan of the new Seiko 5 logo.
Yeah I've heard others say that. I kind of like it though.
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5kx line has nothing to do with the original skx..and I'm not talking about the specs, but also about the design, the dial etc.
Seiko skx is a very good investment.
You will be able to buy a new old stock skx for a few thousand in a few years...if you can find one of course. Nothing that came out on the market from Seiko in recent years or other models are like skx..whatever some say. It is already considered vintage since was produced from 1996, but they are also rare because no one really sells the SKX007 anymore, being very collectible. It will be quite difficult to catch an unmodified skx in the next years. I personally just bought 3 new old stock from an individual who had 6 skx007, brand new, $240 each. When I called to get more...they were already sold...
Wait 5 years from now...people will be able to trade a nos skx..for a Rolex. Why? Because Rolex is still produced...while Skx is no longer produced and has become a classic neo-vintage tool.
The SKX shits all over that fake wannabe diver.
BEZEL AND SECOND HAND DIFFERENT SO WHY STOP AND BUILD ANOTHER THE SAME. SAME AS CARS. IVE GOT THE SKX013 AND THE TUNA SBBN031. SEIKO MUST HAVE NOW HUNDREDS OF THE SAME STYLE
The style is popular and still sells so they only change a few things and watch profit come in.
SRPK is a toy watch