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naked patch review goes crazy
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its joever veil walkerbros…
pocket is the new paradox, they can’t stop hitting him with strays
His burst and combos were way too strong, basically one shots and almost invulnerable during combo
paradox's kit is just inherently strong so honestly nerfs are welcome. if you have the bare minimum execution necessary to just land your 3 you can run lobbies
whats the pocket nerf?
@shadowseek27 Pocket almost always would go for an early Veilwalker because he's naturally very squishy and has built in negative spirit resist (something that Shields ignore). Veil Walker would dramatically improve his durability (particularly in middle lanes where there are a lot of veils in arms reach of lane creeps).
Technically it's not a direct nerf to Pocket, but it is a Nerf to an item he relied on heavily for mid-early game
@@TheRosgath It's a nerf for Paradox e Warden for sure. Pocket doesn't have a high priority in this patch anymore, so whatever
Fortitude stocks just got increased a lot. I mainly bought veil walker for the shield recharge.
Deathy, I implore you to stop wearing that color shirt while recording your content, it makes it look like you're shirtless with the lighting + background, and it distracts me.
Fred the finch moment
are we really at the point where a random person is feeling so entitled to the point where they need to tell what a content creator should be wearing at the comfort of their own home? Holy shit, go back to your mom child.
@@RathalosWatch He is not in the comfort of his own home, he is putting out videos on a public youtube channel. You really have no reason to be upset about people commenting on a public video that has comments enabled.
@@RathalosWatchconstructive criticism is not the same as hating. I would have left out rhe “it distracts me” from that but the rest is fine.
@@ketchup901 losing your mind over skin color t-shirt is wild. its not like we see anything below shouldrs anyway.
They keep on foking my pocket build gawd demet
Veil walker change is wild
My pocket... my lovely sweet angel
shield meta was stupid, i'm very happy with this patch
shield meta going away is possibly the best gift yoshi could've given for the holidays
I didn't even know shields worked that way, so I was totally playing wrong, but that increase in shield regen time is like a backdoor buff to Veil Walker, since it would still regen your shields through veil.
I like to imagine that one dev at valve who was playing deadlock during the holidays, got tired of the shield meta, sneaked into the office and pushed a patch without telling their coworkers
I honestly think the t4 item change was primarily for aesthetics, since they previously changed the t3 items as well to a more rounded number. 500, 1250, 3000, 6000 is pretty clean. I know I'd go to the shop sometimes with 6000 thinking I could buy something, and trying to save up for a Berserker + Frenzy I wouldn't instantly think it's 7450.
I still wait until I have 6300 sometimes.
It's possible but I would be surprised if that is the case, considering they lowered it from 6500 to 6300 to then 6200 to now 6000 - to me it seems like just buffing the relative power of T4 items. Can't know for sure what the devs are thinking though!
My anti-Pocket prayers have Been answered thank The lord
i don't even go veil for invis, so i wish they'd split off the shield refresh to another 3k item that just does that part.
That's the point of that change. Being able to go for a few t1 shields boosting items, get a barrier or two and then rush vw for 3k is rather way too cheap for such selfsustain and gank / escape potential that'd carry you through the midgame. Esp diving and sniping chars it feels most paralysing to deal with
Loving the shirt deathy! Thanks for all your content!
Now for deathy/others. Pls recommend paradox builds/changes now that Im not going shields/veilwalker. Fortitude and armors? Gun/spirit hybrid? Orrrrr
not playing that rat :3
Yeah unsure ATM and might be a little slow on the Deadlock grind in the next couple of days for me, expect a new years meta update for most if not all heroes!
Hope this will get seen. You can majestic leap down in bipbop ult for a great surprise movement and repositioning. Idk if I'm the first one to find it (hope i am)
and here I thought all of valve went home for xmass
NOOOO MY FAST DYNAMO WITH FAT SHIELDS
There is a hiddes ssh change between knockdown and other ssh changes, you need to select it like you would do if you wanted to copy it
I also think healing in lane is way overtuned, but they would also need to fix respawning being quicker than a return trip to base in the early game before nerfing it.
Farewell pocket my beloved ☹️
Am i missing it or there are no changes to pocket??
@@ChrisNanchePocket was one of the main beneficiaries of veilwalker and shields being good. This is effectively a pocket nerf.
Pocket was already terrible, this change barely does anything. Normal people didn't use veil walker much anyway. Only phantom and above players use it.
@@godlyvex5543 anyone who uses a good build off the browser uses veil walker??
Magic Carpet rush Pocket stonks to the moon!
kicking pocket while hes already down like this with absolutely nothing in return four days before christmas is crazy. see you in 2025 buddy
Thanks for the concise updates as always! Funny catch about them saying gold instead of souls, tired devs lol.
I think they should have given veil walker a little bit more of a buff. Having it be 6k with only 100 more shield hurts.
I think they need to add a lot of buffs to veil Walker if they're going to put at that price. More shields or something
veil walker was already too strong, the goal is not to make it overpower just because the price is higher
It really needed the nerfs. It was the bane of high level and competitive play.. It was always optimal to get a bunch of shields and veil walker because it was super high value for the time frame in which it comes online. It was a case of "if you aren't doing this or your hero doesn't work with this you are throwing"
If anything it will probably still be picked up and complained about.
revert cdr nerf
I think VW must be a upgrade of combat and enchanters barrier together. the passive of these items match each other and you cannot stack barriers in this way
@@theConst4ntine3 They would need to buff VW a LOT to compensate because the interaction is the reason people build it today.. you stack barriers and then VW is the capstone item to tie it all together. Which is fine but not at 3k.. so the move to 6k is warranted. If you cannot stack barriers then I think VW is just dead.
I read the patchnotes and somehow skipped over Veil Walker being t4 now. I already felt like something was off about a Veil Walker buff...
they said they are doing bug and hotfixes in the break but wont do a big content update from their words
Deathy how do you think this veil walker change affects the warden build with it ? It honestly still seems insanely good if you still buy it in the same place you used to for just 3000 more souls.
I'm gonna make a prediction here. Since most games last 30+ minutes anyways, bullet armor and spirit armor have always been more OP compared to shields for closing out games, in my opinion. Shields can still be strong early game, but why bother when most games go late game anyways. Especially with shield regen nerf, why build it at all now? With this change, people are only going to realize sooner rather than later that shields are overrated compared to armor. Veil walker is completely garbage now, since lategame the shields are trash. I think it's only a matter of time now till Bullet- and Spirit armor is gonna get nerfed, that is my prediction.
They didn't fix the Lash echo shard bug. I'm still terrified of running into someone abusing that. Lash is op without it but with it he might be the biggest server admin in Deadlock history
There’s a reason why you haven’t seen it, it requires you int your game so much that at that point it‘a opportunity cost of inting your build and relying an an inconsistent thing that is countered by an item half its value.
@@RadarFinsR Enemy is stunned the whole time so there is no counterplay and it's only one item, not exactly ruining your build. It's also very consistent if you can execute.
that e shift change is brutal for vind, having to buy unstoppable to be able to play vs knockdown at all is rly cringe. wonder if they'll lower the range of knockdown or something
nope. It is acting as expected. E-shift was practically a "good but" as a counter. Now at least she has to spend on a "bad buy" which makes it fairer. Keep in mind we all have to spend 3k to deal with Vindicta in the first place and Knockdown is definitely not ideal on a lot of heroes.
@@greenhatman1598 i simply don't think you should ever have to buy unstoppable to deal with a generically okay 3k item that has insanely high range. there should not be a point in the game where you are ahead and you cannot extend your lead because you are forced to itemize extremely defensively, that feels sooo dogshit in any game.
@@obswalb4790 nerfs in her ult should kill that hero, nerf this particular interaction was worth for vindcita players. Knockdown doenst neutralize Vindct completely and spend 3k, 6k or 9k souls to counter one hero always be stupid
shields had no resists and practically got melted through mid-late game, it was a way for squishier characters like pocket and paradox to stay in fights longer by getting shields back as well as faster movement speed for rotates. i personally think they should’ve nerfed the T2 barriers instead. Veil Walker would only be worth it at T4 if they buffed the shield + invis duration more because by time you get to a T4 item they have movement slow and more movement items to catch up to a slippery player. Although i believe something could’ve changed with barrier builds, i don’t think this was it and I disliked this veil walker change heavily.
thank god they fixed those arcane surge bugs, did not work with Haze ult
veil walker dead??? its a christmas miracle!!!
i literally was just complaining about slow stacks and heres the nerf. I love when i complain about stuff and then it gets nerfed cause it happens A LOT.
Glad its nerfed tbh, was weird seeing all the higher hp heros never go for armor, maybe now it will be mroe evenly distributed
WILD Veil Walker change. RIP shields paradox i guess
paradox needed to get nerfed somehow anyway
@ yeah, paradox is kinda strong esp in higher ranks. I wonder if Valve is catering everybody because Paradox is kinda shit in lower ranks based on the stats in deadlocktracker.
Naked patch review just intime for christmas 🥺
Can you ask them to add the option to cancel a death replay? I accidently click it to many times and its so annoying.
I just removed the keybind i did the same and it always messed with my frames lol
I don't like them doing that to veil walker, it wasn't that crazy OP just majestic leap got nerfed so most people moved over to veil. But 6k is way too much for what it does/ the power spike. Like you say shields are supposed to have an early/mid game spike so a 3k item fit in perfectly with that
Look what they did to my boy
RIP Veil walker 2024
that ethereal fix also affect geist life drain :(
Hot Take: shields weren't that op. It only was over the top, bc people blindlessy buying ressist shred and getting no value vs shields. One day you actualy buy shreds to counter armor and not doing it by Default...i hope so
Double the cost? What? Why did they slaughter it
Warden bros...i dont feel so good
pipe down bobby
i dont think this is a particularly big change outside of lane
Warden has high priority in pro games. Viscous needed a nerf too. Since he's a support hero, it went unnoticed and no one is complaining. They are testing drafts with 4 bans, it should diversify more with these changes
I gave feedback for the eth shift change Specifically with vindicta!! I feel like I made an impact :)
gahh damn, devs still working!
Pocketbros…. At least Diviners Kevlar is cheaper…
I got the update after a game abusing veil walker, Queued for match got 3k souls time to get veil walker, nope veil walker is 6k now
T4 change is good i think as an Archon player. I usually do most obj damage as ivy gun so my build is good but I literally only ever buy 2 t4s per game max.
Why buy veilwalker if it’s the same cost as shadowweave?
nobody used veil walker for the invis
@ ah I see, so strictly a barrier item?
@@SylveonShihoin that and the movement speed for rotations; i can't think of a time i legitimately jumped someone with the invisibility function without a very coordinated team
@@eirin481 thanks for the info!
@@SylveonShihointhe invis also fully restore the shield
Veilwalker dead - mid to late shields are dead. Glad I've been on a PoE2 stint since their last set of decisions. No reason to come back lol
>guy who doesn’t play the game has strong feeling about balancing issues that have been around since he’s been gone.
Sorry but literally every hero was buying combat enchanters and veil is a was getting a bit old lmao.
why do you call knowdown cc(which is crowd control if im not mistaken) if it is a single target spell? meaning no crowd? ? ? ? ? ? is this some leaguetard shit or am i missing something??
Wtf does "tick gold (or souls)" mean???
Lowest 2 net worth on a team get a guaranteed soul income. This change just references these souls, you can read about it in last patch notes (edit).
@@josephreynolds2401 Cheers Joseph!
Not a fan of the veil walker change at all
Is veil walker dead?
No, the game is. LOL
there is no way they meant those Veil Walker changes it has to be a mistake, the problem with shields is that you cant get resistances or lifesteal, like I just fought a Wraith with 3500 hp and 1k Spirit + 1k gun shield build, and in late game she just melted instantly, Veil walker is a gimmick, I have never played against a strong Veil Walker build and im in Phantom atm.
Veil walker warden with a few thousand souls lead was objectively insanely strong. I’m in phantom too and idk how you never played a good veil walker class but it was definitely not just a gimmick
W fix
It's crazy 'cause I don't think I've seen a single veilwaker buy in the last few weeks of playing anyways, so it's definitely not getting bought for 6k.
i think it's used a lot at top elo
unlucky bro, double barriers + VW was OP
Overall pretty good update, but veil walker plz? x2 price for 50 shield?
wdym, the item was already too strong
@@prone1277 yeah was stonk but 6k is a bit expensive IMO, they could have done, need a barrier (combat or enchanter) +3000 total cost 4250
Tbh I think they should buff it to make up for it. A bit more like brining back the 20% fire rate on breaking veil maybe would help justify the 6k cost.
Because rn it feels like veil is only good if you’re snowballing out of control now.
That said it was getting a bit old that every hero was building enchanters combat veil.
Seeing warden nerfed every patch makes the game so unfun for me. As a warden main, it is upsetting.
Warden is still turbo strong, best character in the game across all ranks and almost 52% winrate in eternus.
gonna cry because they nerfed the character with the highest pick/win ratio of all the ranks???
>I can’t believe the strong hero in the game got minor nerfs
Are you okay buddy 😂😂
@@niuthewiz it’s okay. Dont cry buddy
@@RadarFinsR I’m good, you?
I love vindicta changes. Her ult is already bs by having INFINITE range, giving 850 SOULS per execute and can deal about 450-500 dmg per shot if used correctly at 10 minutes while being able to have 4 charges, pretty low charge cd and no charge cd if you hit your shot
you can counter it with extra health and spirit armor for 1250, and you will be able to tank 2-3 shots from her at early game. But who cares lets just nerf it becouse people are too lazy to buy items 😂
@@iorvet_chmorvetso at 3k you think every enemy’s should spent 1.7k to not get roflstomped by an “executed that hits at 50% Ho form a hero with a spell that does decay for free lmao.
It was OP but it was needed because it’s obnoxious and half the e shitty noob vindicatas would snowball early because they win lane for free in low elo lobbies and then go 30-1 even when to they’re dogshit ends up lining up a infinite range body shot is something even a monkey can do.
So yeah she’s getting needed not for being broken but for being too annoying and toxic of a design for new players.
fuego