Should You Take Vitamin K and Vitamin D Together
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Solid research out of university of Alberta linking D3 with positive reduction in dementia just came out. Being an old fart with chemo brain, anything that helps reduce dementia is a good thing. 😊
Agreed. Love the Golden Bears!
The study was done at the University of Calgary, which is located in Alberta. The University of Alberta is based in Edmonton, Alberta's capital city.
B12 helps too
This combination of D3 and K2 has been know for years. Glad to see the medical doctors are listening to other health care doctors.
Vitamin D3 is freely available from sunshine / sunbath, why should combine D3 with K2 ??
Hillarious. My question is, why would we even ask any medical doctor about vitamins, minerals or dietary advice? i.e. How to become healthy. It is common knowledge that any Dr gets perhaps a couple days training in it at med school.
K2 not reducing the incidence of fracture is very easy to understand: magnesium makes bone hard not calcium. Of course you need calcium, and vitamin D and K2 will drive calcium into your bone and increase bone density but without magnesium, bone will not necessarily get harder. Unfortunately, a lot of people and unfortunately a lot of older people don't get enough magnesium from food and would need a supplement. It's really sad to see that when doctors are prescribing calcium they will prescribe a supplement with only calcium in it. It would be much better if they prescribed a supplement with both calcium and magnesium. A little boron might also help.
Seems a lot of the medical community don’t do any valid research or read studies that show this
Along with collagen is helpful 😊
I agree. I did lots of reading and I came to the same conclusion.
@@MohammadAlhamdan-bw4rlYou are right! I highly recommend you invest in some RNA Reset ReMag (magnesium) and ReMyte (trace minerals). These are liquids which you put in your water or tea, coffee etc. They are top shelf and invented by Dr Carolyn Dean, the queen of magnesium. I have been using both for 4 years and love them. If you only take 3 supplements, they should be: ReMag, ReMyte and D3+k2 (preferably liquid or a spray). Surthrival make the best D3+k2.
I heard that one should take Calcium and Magnesium separately, because they compete against each other for absorption.
Uhh Doctor's, you seemed to get lost in your own conversation and actually failed to answer the question asked in your choosen title for this video.....is there a possible synergistic benefit of taking vitamin K2 together with D3???
Just mentioning there is a lack of RCT's on vitamin K2, does not answer in any way, if there is a possible benefit of taking these two vitamins together?? 🤔
And so, I feel mislead by your video title! 😥
YES, we shall take vitamin K2 and D together.
Thank you so much. I had been looking for this kind of information and to understand it. you two always make it very clear.
Another very interesting perspective & valuable information!
In 2021 I had a chest CT that that showed aortic arthrosclerosis. Later that year I was diagnosed with osteopenia and started taking K2 and D3. Fast-forward a year and a half, I had a CT angiogram and the aortic arthrosclerosis was gone. no other changes in my diet no other changes in my activity just added D3 and K2. So no one can convince me that it doesn’t work!
My HX 64 year old female post menopausal at 52. Familial Hypercholestremia with TC 302 LDL 203 HDL 100ish since mid 20s. BTW CAC score was zero, no plaque and no calcification.
Yes, it does work. The combination has reversed my osteopenia. People could also argue that it doesn't work, but it worked for me. My doctor suggested it and I listened.
@@chrisstepleton4761 May I ask the both of you how much D3 and K2 you took?
What dosage did u take?
@@zayaamad3080D3 5000 K2 300
@@airamsipuola5045D3 5000 K2 300
Thank you for this video! You guys are awesome
Thanks you Doctors! Love the way you present the information for us.
Love your honest take, guys!!
Thank you for the informative vid.
Popular topic of discussion. Thank you for sharing the different perspectives
Excellent video! I always appreciate the nuanced yet simple talking points and careful attention to the research. Can't wait to see what the eventual RCTs show.
I love you guys, but no matter what you say, and being in charge of my own health, I will NOT eat a cup of kale, period period period. That reminds me-I need to mow my lawn.
Too funny!
Really funny
Kales gross 🤢
Baby kale is great, just like any other lettuce type leaf. I agree with you, grown-up kale is just not going into my mouth unaccompanied. I do put it into my smoothie which includes 1 cup of frozen wild blueberries and 1/2 cup of frozen cranberries. Those cranberries overpower the taste of the gross stuff. Of course, you have to like the taste of cranberries!
As a Subscriber, we look forward to your honest insights and perspective. Love the discussion between you. You mention quickly researching topical scientific research papers. How can I do this? Can you explain in a video? Blessings.
This was very informative! Good point Dr. Z inquiring why no RCT by the supplement companies! I take MK7 because of family history of atherosclerosis, but I also eat a varied, mostly plant based diet. Maybe I will just save my money and wait for the evidence. Thanks for the thought provoking content!
I’ve had atherosclerosis and my cardiologist inserted drug-eluding stents in both my legs to improve blood flow. He did blood serum tests before surgery that showed very low levels of vitamin d - almost at the rickets level. I was prescribed an emergency megadose of 50000 IU of vitamin D3 to bring my levels back up. My research also led me to a book by a Canadian lady doctor who described ground-breaking research that showed that vitamin D3 supplementation ( and also sun exposure) led to the release of large amounts of calcium from the gut into the bloodstream, and additional vitamin k2 supplementation helped move the calcium to the bone, instead of clogging up the arteries. So I started doing vitamin D3+ k2 supplementation -OTC available in most drugstores.
50,000 IU is not a megadose, I take 5,000 IU everyday during winter and do regularly blood checks for vitamin D.
Good one, Docs!
Thank you Doctors.
We love you channel, very good information, tanks 💓
For visual learners, it would be nice to have the important take away in text or ppt slides.
Noted
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Thank you for your videos to help us understand. Two years ago I was diagnosed with osteoporosis. I watched and read so much on the internet about it, like you said, the majority had something to sell. I started V K2 and 4000 VD, my calcium intake was sporadic because of reading threat to heart, etc. and monthly Actonel, after 18 months another bone scan showed my osteoporosis was now osteopenia. I do strength training twice a week and try to keep moving. I’m going to be 70. I thought it was the Vitamin D and K that helped me. Sounds like everything is a gamble.
Liquid form of vitamin D3 and liquid form of K2? I have a powder form of them in one capsule. Which is best?
Thanks for this. As a post-menopausal woman if taking K2 in addition to my D3 doesn't do any harm, finding out it may be doing some good is enough for me to carry on doing what I'm doing.
Think of taking magnesium as well.
Wonderful job!
Always fun to learn about our health….Thanks 😊
Really useful information thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Personal - 3 generations of osteo-p & teeth loss; 7 years ago my teeth began crumbling - two pulled; after research I started D3+k2 - within two weeks (had dental to remove 3rd tooth - which was saved) my teeth began healing. No tooth issues since - I presumed my teeth seemingly 'disintegrating' had to do with lack of the K2 + D3. I will keep taking them.
Statistics, by their very nature, are not personal. People need to learn their own body which can be a bit of trial and error. Most 'health care providers' I've interacted with in last 20-30 years, had no interest in nutrition nor getting to the root cause of any issue - they are only interested in treating symptomatically and getting you out the door. In doctor's defense many patients are not happy unless they are prescribed 'a pill' to cure their ill rather than do the hard work of repairing their diets, exercise and life routines (my own extended family included!) .
Thank you again Docs!
Very welcome!
Excellent job You bring useful information at the level of ordinary people thank you
Doing our best
I'm currently on 7000 IU vitamin D + 120mcg K2 daily. I feel great, and haven't been ill in 5 years (except for a 2-day stint with covid).
Worth checking with your doctor how much D3 you should take if you take it daily. There is a recommended upper limit especially if taken daily. The limit might be based on body weight or other factors, so just check with a professional to be on the safe side 🙂
We generate between 25,000-50,000 IU in the sun, so 7,000 IU is not unreasonable, especially if you are older. A 70yo generates about 25% of the amount that the average 18yo generates naturally. There's no upper limit on K2. No harm in investigating increasing that. I take the Athletic Greens D3/K2 drops that have 1,000 IU of D3 per drop and 140mcg of K2. Similar to you, I have 7 drops each day.
@@pohaa Thanks for sharing, and I agree 100%. Looks like we're following the same research.
@@austin2842 I got "Mega K2" from Life Extension (45,000mcg of MK4 per capsule!) and "Nattokanise" from Swanson which is mostly MK7. Good luck with it all 👍
One of the best explanations of K1 and K2 that's I've seen. Thanks.
Thank you Docs!
Welcome!
You guys bring faces and voices to laymen worldwide. Thank you.
Totally lost me in the middle.
So no idea if I should be taking anything now😢
Dr vegan multi vitamins have it in. It's supposed to be 2 a day but I decided to take one a day. That way I'm getting a top up on many nutrients but not enough to negatively affect me.
Always great knowledge and very entertaining to listen to, reminds me of Australian humour fantastic work Doctors.
Docs, can you do a video on natural supplements and their benefits in A1c reduction? Thanks
I think adding a good kind of magnesium supplement is essential.
Love your Doc uniform Docs
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Even when hypervitaminosis D occurs, treatment is simple and permanent damage is rare.68,69 A large ecological study of high vitamin D supplementation took place by accident when in 1990-1992 a dairy in the Boston area accidentally fortified milk with 230,000IU/quart instead of 400IU/quart: 575 times the intended amount. 70 The overage remained undiscovered for two years, as despite taking in this high dose day after day most customers did not become ill; but eventually Boston area emergency departments linked the resultant approximately 19 cases of vitamin D toxicity to the dairy.70,71 The only sufferer who did not recover died of pneumonia due to immune compromise from the prednisone given her as treatment, rather than from effects of hypercalcemia.70,72 The jury found that the dairy’s dramatic error did not cause the decedent’s death.
Yes! The problem combination?
Great video and I’m very interested to see your next one. There’s such conflicting views on D3 RDA itself; some as low as 800IU, others as high as 10,000 IU - then there’s the grey area of how vital K2 is with the aforementioned high dose. I find it all quite confusing.
We shall see
Ive been taking vit D + K2 since covid. Recently I upped my dose a little and it seemed to take away some vertigo I was having. (This was the advice of my sister's doctor for her) About 10 drops a day.
Can I take a tablet with calcium -vit D-vit K, all in one? The endocrinologist suggested it for my osteopenia.
DOCTOR please tell us is the vit k good for liver ? Or no ?
I am recivening vit d3 oil with magnesium but not vit k2
I know I am het.FH when I m 24 yrs old my total Cholesterol 380 mg/dl and I start Statin at that time until now I m 52 yrs old (on statin 28 yrs) I never has Cardiac symptoms but in 2018 I do Cadiac CT my score is 450 so doc recommended Baby aspirin 81 mg daily. Now I eat Crestor 10mg plus Ezetrol 10mg and baby aspirin daily. And Vit. K2 180 mcg daily. Today my LDL less than 100 mg/dl. do I go to the right direction??
Are there any supplements we should be taking besides potassium and magnesium?
Thx Docs!.. I hail my Kale... Even my dogs love to follow me into the garden to munch a couple stalks.
Really enjoy your wisdom
Thanks
You see your videos are very clear to me but this one was confusing no real amount of what we should take of them together? But overall I love you guys
What about taling a baby aspirin is it contraindacted?
I didn't do this at first but after hearing about this on TH-cam I have switched to a single K2 + D pill. That was probably 2 years ago.
Are the Dr's saying they should be taken separately?
@@lizrigby-jones3700 Oh sorry, I meant I was just taking vitamin D and no K2
Would K2 regulate CPPD Calcium phosphate deposits in my joints?
I read an article that this combination would help with wight loss. I dont remember the reasons. I started it and after 2 weeks weeks straight, i ended up in a seriously rough asthma situation. My dr gave me prednisone to help me survive. I think it's related to my allergy to ragweed.
I wonder if my lipid panel is good then consuming saturated fats over the rda isn't problematic
I just started giving my mom D3 and K2 about a week ago and if the study out of Alberta, Canada is true maybe that will help with her dementia as well. I think there is a cure for dementia out there. It’s just that some of these big pharmaceutical companies are holding back so they can get more money grants and donations, they get a bigger salary
Sorry to hear that about your mom. Try to put your mom on low carb diet. No potatoes, bread, pasta. I'm taking Cod liver oil made in Norway. Little pricey 60$ Canadian for 500 ml. EPA and DHA are very important for brain functions. Look up Dr Cywes, Berg, Egberg. Stay away from SAD diet. Avocado's, Fatty meat, eggs, cheese. Fasting is important. I do two meals a day with 18 hours fasting. Lost 30 lbs in a month now just maintaining my weight.
Shame on them
She needs healthy fats and antioxidants. Cut sugar as much as you can
Grass fed and finished beef!
Great video; love your sense of humour! I was hoping you might confirm something that Dr. Ken Berry said, which was that you should not take Vitamin D and K2(MK7) supplements together because they compete for absorption. Is this true?
True. Taking d3 and k2 together lowers the potency of k2. Dr Keith Mccormick said so.
Thank you
Thanks so much. I will continue eating like the wild animal I am.
I'm suffering from kidney failure. So can I take vitamin d3 with k2
Hi Docs! Yes and have been for 3 years! Speaking of ‘K’ 710K, congrats!🎉
Thanks doctors, very informative.
I took Vitamin D3 & K2 together, helped a great deal with my dental health. I had sensitive teeth & the combination helped eliminate it.
I have been taking D3 n K2 feeling awesome
Could I get the vitamin D in the morning and then K2 later on in the day (or vice versa) does it have to be exactly the same time? I want to get the vitamins from food if possible and sometimes dont want to always combine.
Hello doctors. So... If a patient has osteoporosis, some calcifications in the stomach, using forteo, would they benefit from vitd3 and k2? A heart cath showed no plaque in the heart btw
If you have actually watched this video, the answer they would tell you would be "potentially" but not conclusive or backed up by any type of study.
Thank you for this video. I have been taking K2 since I had a cardiac calcium score of 1900 and 3 stents. Nobody told me to do this but I have read that it helps to keep the calcium out of the blood and into the bones. Of course I have no idea if it helps but it makes me feel better.
Fair enough. Helps the bones. Jury out for now on the vessels but many trials ongoing
I hate rabbit food... it makes me gag... probably why I have high blood pressure high cholesterol and now my Dr. says I am obese... Ya... but I quit drinking alcohol because they said I have fatty liver and my abd keeps getting bigger. Probably ascites... or CHF who knows... I take high doses of D3 10,000 IU and K2 living up in the North we usually don't get much sunshine, and with asthma and COVID around still I wanted a boost of vitamins that help respiratory to avoid infection...
Hello. You can take quercetine against covid. Researched since early 2020 !
It also works against allergies.
Mabey I'll get k2 , I've been taking multi vita , glucosamine hci with msm , flaxseed oil, now that it's back a Costco d3 super chlorela with c for over twenty years
Very good explanation thank you my vitamin D has been low for years, had a CT scan 2 years ago showed a buildup in the artoic artery will try the K2
Take berberine and lime sapwood to avoid and dimish plaques.
However, for those of us that don't eat a "healthy" diet(according to the governmental alphabet agencies), would k2/d3 supplements likely do some good, and at least no physical harm?
how are the observational studies any different from pharmaceutical companies only reporting relative statistics when describing their results?
Hi doctors....will Vit K2 mk7 make your blood clot more easily and increase your. D' dimer ?
Thank you for this video. I take D3 and K2, have abdominal aortic calcification, and osteoporosis...taking monthly Actonel but this latter drug concerns me in relationship to the calcification...can''t seem to get a straight forward answer regarding this...would love your thoughts ...Thank you..
Take berberine to avoid plaque (and cancer and diabetes).
Magnesium and boron (bore) to help with vit D and avoid calcium plaques.
Take lime (ancient linden) sapwood to avoid calcium plaques and relieve your kidneys. In 10-day cures.
1 cup of kale may have that amount of vitamin K, but also have anti-nutrients that block other nutrients.
Interesting.
Thanks for saying show me the evidence
I take vitamin D with K2 a cup a day everyday!
Thank you, but Dr. weening, you need to slow down your speaking speed!
How much you should take if your blood test is 25 ??
I was told that K7 was good for your heart and vascular system. Is this not the case Anymore?
I’ve been on a daily calcium supplement (I’m lactose intolerant) with K2 for a few months now, and notice that the tartar on my teeth has disappeared. Hope its doing the same for my arteries. I take 60,000IU of D3 once a month after a meal with some oil in it, as both D3 and K are fat soluble vitamins. Safe dose. I have a PhD in Biochemistry with 5 publications on Vitamin D
Very cool.
Me also...😊
Why have you chosen to take the Vitamin D dose once a month, rather than 2,000IU daily?
Do you feel it makes no difference? Or, do you think it's better? Thank you.
@@seascape35 I find it convenient. It is stored in the liver and fatty tissues and is used as required. I monitor my Serum D3 levels regularly and am nowhere near toxicity. 2000IU/ day is good in my opinion.
Great video as always. You guys remind me of Statler and Waldorf from the Muppet show, only a lot younger!
I was diagnosed with low vitamin d levels 3 years ago and had extreme bone pain. I was prescribed 4000 out vitamin d daily and have been taking it since. I am experiencing bone and joint pain again so I’m wondering if I should pair K2 with it since the regular seems to not be working. Vitamin d level is low again
Consider adding magnesium too.
I love good common sense.
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So, you should take Vitamin D3 with your calcium and if there is some vitamin K2 in your multivitamin, and you eat a lot of veggies, that should be okay, right? And now the million dollar question: Would having osteogenesis imperfecta influence this?
And also, since K2 is the second highest mountain in the world, do you get more of this vitamin if you climb that? 🤪
I was taking D3 for a while without any issues, i heard about K2 last year and started taking it along with my D3, very bad idea. The calcium went up in my blood and the K2 (supplement) was the only change i made.
I stopped the K2 and the calcium levels dropped. I started using sauerkraut instead. I have only heard one doctor mentioned the high levels of calcium in the blood taking K2.
K2 in supplement create heart palpitation.
Literally just took my micro ingredients Vitamin 5,000UI D3 & 100mcg K2 supplement 10 min before seeing this 😂 (yes, i tested chronically low for D multiple times).
I take that dosage everyday also! I'm a 64 year old man!
@@wiz4020 Dauly 5000IU D3 is way too high. Above 4000iU/day is toxic. I am a researcher on vitamin D
But D3 is also has a massive impact on our immune system not just about skeletal bone benefits.. vit D3 is also a homone not a vitamin
Also helps reduce BPH and PSA.
I have a level 9 vitamin D deficiency and my doctor prescribed me D3 5000iu daily. I asked if I should take any other supplements like K2 and was advised not to. Recently there was calcium oxalate crystals present in urine sample. I spoke with my doctor about this concern and was advised that these crystals are grainy and only become an issue if they clump together and it is fine for now. Would any supplement help with this or should I just stick to high dose of D3 alone ? Very confused
I would cut down on foods high in oxalates! All of the research I've done says if you take vitamin D3, you should be taking K2! Vitamin D3 helps you absorb more calcium and K2 helps the calcium go to your bones! Do your research, I don't blindly listen to doctors! My trust in doctors is very low!
I was told by doc that I was low on Vitamin D, So I took one "one a day dose" and was up almost every hour to urinate, by chance decided to look up side effects and this was one of them for Vit. D. People should be warned.....I do like your presentations though. thanks.
We agree that taking vitamin D is not without risk
Never heard of urinary frequency as side effect of Vit D. If it is, it is rare.
I take it in the morning or with my first meal of the day!
What about vitamin D with soybean oil? Isn’t soy bad? I’m pre menopausal.
Soy is awful!
Ok
During COVID I started 10K units of vit D3. Lowered it to 6K and now I take 2K. Bought some K2, but am on blood thinner so no. Had 2 CT scans which showed severe calcification of my cornary arteries. Don't know what to do.
Hmmm. Dietary assessment for sure. Exercise. Possibly medication. Wish you the best
Are there any other factors involved like age, cholesterol, smoking, diabetes, etc.?
Do some more research, vitamin K1 thins the blood, but I'm not sure if K2 does! Just my 2 cents!
Take magnesium to balance out the calcium.
@@dawhike I take magnesium every day.
A question I’ve always wanted to know about vitamin D3: if we get D3 from being out in the sun, then does that equate to just taking vitamin D3 without K2. Essentially, if we take too much vitamin D3, we may be promoting deposition of calcium in our blood vessels. If we’re exposing our skin to vitamin D3 regularly then should we just supplement with K2?
Like to share that Dr. Ford Brewer of PrevMed heart health fame recently said to take 400 mcg of Vitamin K2 (on TH-cam) which I do take daily with my Vitamin D3 10,000-20,000 IU supplement and test my Vitamin D blood levels twice a year to see that I am not exceeding the 500 nmol toxicity limit. Melville Jayathissa from sunny Malaysia
I've learned that 10 minutes daily in the sun will supply your body with the amount of Vitamin D needed. If one doesn't eat the diet needed to consume the Vitamin K2, a supplement will be effective.
My mom is 85 years old and she is having burning legs and feet numb and knees severely paining. What could be wrong? I have started giving her VITAMIN B-12. Please guide. Thanks 🙏
Hard to say. Could be nerves. Could be veins. Could be coming from her back. Time to see her doctor
@@TalkingWithDocs doctors said it is not from veins, it is from her back and nerves and given Gabapantin 100 mg tablet to take. There is no other alternative to Gabapantin 100 mg. Thank you very much for your reply.
I'm taking a daily Vitamin D + K2 supplement because I'm hypertensive and I'm hoping that this supplement will lower my BP a few points. I fully appreciate that K2 is not proven to lower BP, but if there's a chance that it helps to reduce arterial plaques then I feel it's worth the minimal expense
Hello. Berberine also helps reduce plaque.
It's also useful against cancer and diabetes type 2.
Yes