I have been taking a collagen powder in my coffee every morning for about 6 months now. I can't say that I have noticed any big difference. I am 72. I have also increased my protein and fiber intake for the past few months. I think I will stop with the collagen powder and see if I notice anything different. Thank you for this video. I appreciate hearing from real Docs.
I was having bad knee pain to the point I couldn't sleep at night. Bone on bone. Out of desperation I tried 30 grams of collagen a day and after 6 weeks the pain was almost gone. 5 years ago and still not having surgery. If someone thinks it's a placebo then I say fine. Whatever. The pain went away. This motivated me to lose weight and after a year I dropped 100 lbs. Im sure that is what kept it going. But I still take the collagen. The pain relief was quite profound for me.
The skin on my forearms had become very thin, and even slight contact with objects caused bleeding. However, after four months of taking collagen peptides, this problem has completely resolved. It's the only supplement I take.
@@routmaster38 I'm 65. Have you tried collagen peptides, it took several months of taking the supplement before I noticed the improvement; however, the improvement is remarkable. I take a brand that says, "Hydrolyzed, grass fed, pasture raised, NSF, Certified Sport, Whole3 approved".
Something improved my bone density scan. I showed some changes; I took action. So over the 2 years or whatever it was until I scanned again, I began taking collagen powder every morning in my smoothie, and tried to increase my protein intake since I rarely eat meat. I was already exercising, weight training, running and have for many years. Next scan showed improvement. I also notice less stiffness in my hands--it was getting rather bad but during that time it improved. I quit taking the powder for a while thinking it was a fluke, and over time stiffness came back. Started again, stiffness was better. So, I'm going to continue to take it. Isn't hurting me so why not?
Isn't eating meat deliver more amino acids than just collagen? Also protein in vegetables has different % of different amino acids, this could be a problem.
I'm a 55 year old active male, who was diagnosed with CAM type FAI this year. Along with other reasonably priced supplements like vitamins and glucosamine, I've been taking 2 teaspoons of pure gelatin in my daily protein smoothie. I've heard good things about gelatin for osteoarthritis, and it's really affordable. What's your take, Docs?
You docs are great. I just deleted this long TMI about my own journey & what’s worked to keep this ol’ woman, seemingly healthy, fit, good muscle mass, energy, cognition, sex drive, increased my bones from osteoporosis to osteopenia & i hope for more improvement. I’m an RN in a snf where a lot of the patients are now younger than me with horrible health-So many amputations r/t T2DM, osteomyelitis with of potent IV antibiotics. Post sepsis from PNA & UTI’s(mostly women here). I’d love to feel free to have a discussion, but again TMI. Good show. So much snake oil out there, & then there’s those things/medications that can deliver that most docs won’t touch-like Ritalin to get a depressed woman who has an amputation the energy to eat, get out of bed, work with therapy, & go home again with her husband. So peace out, & this is much shorter than my original over sharing. 😂
I take collagen powder every morning in my coffee and it helps for the wrinkles under my eyes. I can tell a difference when I stop taking it but I realize this is only short term but it does help.
Can you please do a review on the benefits of infrared light therapy and if there are any at home devices that are approved for use? Great content. Thank you.
I'm really enjoying your videos as they are informative and entertaining. I'd not heard of "matcha tea" before seeing it in the comments here. When I looked it up on Google it says that matcha contains a high level of caffeine. In the video about bone density, you said to avoid caffeine for strong bones so why is it good? Thank you!
So caffeine itself is not bad for your bones but drinking caffeine with a meal where you are trying to absorb calcium is counter productive. Matcha is a very concentrated form of green tea and has all of its benefits like inflammation reduction and anti oxidants
I had gastric by pass 20 years ago, and have been taking collagen and multi vitamin daily as I am unable to digest most foods (in sufficient quanties) and it has helped my skin and hair, joint pain and nails. Not sure if it's the collagen but for being in my late 50 ^s I feel good
I’ve started taking collagen powder with green matcha tea, I don’t believe it will increase collagen etc but I will finish it because I like benefits of the matcha in it. After that won’t waste my $.
Interesting. As usual, I learned new things, and also had fun and laughed while watching. Had just bought some collagen, and now I have more to consider. Thanks.
I've been taking it for 2 years every morning in my coffee, about 4 months again I cut it back to half a scoop. What I've noticed less knee pain (I play and am a goalie) I've noticed hair and nail growth.
I was taking collagen powder in my coffee for the past three years and I ran out about a week ago… I’m going to see if it makes any difference. So far none. I like that you’re giving pros and cons. I was diagnosed with osteopenia years ago so it’s possible the collagen improved it? I’ll need a bone scan to see. I run and do weight bearing exercise so how do you tease out which is helping? Thanks for your fun and informative videos!
I never graduated from collegen , and at 64 years of age and now retired I think I m going to start classes again to see if I can get a college degree. Will taking collegen supplements help ?
I'm one of those people that, out of desperation and pain in my hips, hadn't eaten red meat (cow, pig, lamb etc) since I was 15yrs old. As city folk, my parents decided, in the early 1970's, to quite their jobs (Dad was a VP at GM here in the SF Bay Area) and buy a dairy farm. What I found out is that, #1 - I don't want to meet my dinner before I eat it. #2 - Animals are funny, smart, have personalities and give and receive love...WTHeck??? Let me also add, one of my new best friends I met, their family owned a meat lot and "processing" facility. My first introduction to what is being wrapped up and sold at our big chain supermarkets...now that is enough to make anyone rethink their diet. Anyway, I was having so much pain in my hips and shoulders, I broke down and plugged my nose, closed my mind, and started putting 4scoops (I've no idea what the actual measurement of the collagen was, but I bought all of it from Costco) of collagen in my coffee. I did this for 8 months, plenty of time to see, imo, noticeable difference. It didn't happen for me at all. I hated the taste and it was not cheap, actually quite pricey. I will say this, unlike other folks, after 8 months of adding those extra calories to my diet, already suffering from painful walking, I gained a good 20+ lbs. That collagen has som calories and I was not in shape to add a workout to my day. Thank Go, since then, I've had both hips replaced, and am currently waiting for the right time to have my shoulder replaced. At the end of the day, I"m not sure collagen supplements can trump (I hate using curse words!) bad genes.
What's the difference between bone broth and collagen? I use collagen and I can definitely say it does make my nails grow hard and fast. I have osteoporosis and I'm waiting for my bone scan in a year. Love You Guy's!🥰
Thanks for your honest assessment of collagen. I am thinking exactly the same. I think there would be better results by making a yogurt with L Reuteri cultures. Dr. Davis swears by it.
Be sure to get enough Glycine, one third of all collagen is made from that one amino acid, they say as you get older the body doesn't make enough and many common protein foods that people consume doesn't contain enough. I take a Glycine supplement and can definitely tell a difference.
I've been feeling great and working out every day since I started putting in oatmeal and coffee. Seems to work for something. Only supplement I've noticed do something
Been taking collagen supps for a couple of years now and I've had great results but you have to make sure you aren't missing any of the co-factors, of which there are many. If your body doesn't have the necessary ingredients on hand it just doesn't work. Were the studies controlling the co-factors as well? Collagen synthesis falls off at about 1% per year starting from about your mid-20's, the older you are the faster your collagen degrades. IMO you can't start supplementing early enough, through diet or otherwise. Maybe try some safe cheap micro needling for more troublesome areas or age spots/wrinkles in conjunction with supps. YMMV
I have EDS and my take on collagen supplements is that since the collagen my body produces is crap collagen, and the collagen molecule is broken down anyway, my body uses the new collagen to make more crap collagen. .
I took Vital Proteins for a whole year and noticed absolutely no difference in anything. Not hair, skin, nails, joints, absolutely nothing. For me it was a waste of money 🤷🏻♀️
My brother is into collagen. He also was one of those claiming it could grow back cartilage and suggested i should eat it for my hip (which i didn´t), i call him MR placebo hehe.. I rarely find that people who eat 5-10 pills of supplements believe in real studies or the clinical effect of it, not sure why but they sure as hell don´t believe in the placebo effect and often doesn´t even know what it means 😁
These dubious pills seem like one of the worst reasons for breaking the vegan conduct. The skin that is continuously lost and rebuilt is more than those two capsules. I thought I could cheat by eating gelatin until I looked at the price of a small packet. Tryptophan sounds like a fan of going on trips, lol.
I have been taking a collagen powder in my coffee every morning for about 6 months now. I can't say that I have noticed any big difference. I am 72. I have also increased my protein and fiber intake for the past few months. I think I will stop with the collagen powder and see if I notice anything different. Thank you for this video. I appreciate hearing from real Docs.
Sounds like a solid plan. Curious what you will feel here.
You’re welcome. Keep us updated
I got the placebo effect when i watched this video!! :)
It happens 😀
You guys always made my day with good info and a very positive attitude . Keep the good work 🙏
Our pleasure! Thanks so much
I was having bad knee pain to the point I couldn't sleep at night. Bone on bone. Out of desperation I tried 30 grams of collagen a day and after 6 weeks the pain was almost gone. 5 years ago and still not having surgery. If someone thinks it's a placebo then I say fine. Whatever. The pain went away. This motivated me to lose weight and after a year I dropped 100 lbs. Im sure that is what kept it going. But I still take the collagen. The pain relief was quite profound for me.
Which collagen are you taking, please?
Congrats on your weight loss! And feeling better
The skin on my forearms had become very thin, and even slight contact with objects caused bleeding. However, after four months of taking collagen peptides, this problem has completely resolved. It's the only supplement I take.
Very cool!
Im 86 and for ten years my forarms bruise easily too.
@@routmaster38 I'm 65. Have you tried collagen peptides, it took several months of taking the supplement before I noticed the improvement; however, the improvement is remarkable. I take a brand that says, "Hydrolyzed, grass fed, pasture raised, NSF, Certified Sport, Whole3 approved".
So, I HAVE to listen to this one again!! For info as well as entertainment.
Science based…well, maybe not the humour related stuff!!! Thank you!!!!
Something improved my bone density scan. I showed some changes; I took action. So over the 2 years or whatever it was until I scanned again, I began taking collagen powder every morning in my smoothie, and tried to increase my protein intake since I rarely eat meat. I was already exercising, weight training, running and have for many years. Next scan showed improvement. I also notice less stiffness in my hands--it was getting rather bad but during that time it improved. I quit taking the powder for a while thinking it was a fluke, and over time stiffness came back. Started again, stiffness was better. So, I'm going to continue to take it. Isn't hurting me so why not?
Isn't eating meat deliver more amino acids than just collagen?
Also protein in vegetables has different % of different amino acids, this could be a problem.
Did you use the literal exact DEXA machine? Not same brand, same exact machine. Curious here. Thanks !
Good point! Likely not. But I’ll still take the win anyway lol
I'm a 55 year old active male, who was diagnosed with CAM type FAI this year. Along with other reasonably priced supplements like vitamins and glucosamine, I've been taking 2 teaspoons of pure gelatin in my daily protein smoothie. I've heard good things about gelatin for osteoarthritis, and it's really affordable. What's your take, Docs?
You docs are great. I just deleted this long TMI about my own journey & what’s worked to keep this ol’ woman, seemingly healthy, fit, good muscle mass, energy, cognition, sex drive, increased my bones from osteoporosis to osteopenia & i hope for more improvement. I’m an RN in a snf where a lot of the patients are now younger than me with horrible health-So many amputations r/t T2DM, osteomyelitis with of potent IV antibiotics. Post sepsis from PNA & UTI’s(mostly women here). I’d love to feel free to have a discussion, but again TMI. Good show. So much snake oil out there, & then there’s those things/medications that can deliver that most docs won’t touch-like Ritalin to get a depressed woman who has an amputation the energy to eat, get out of bed, work with therapy, & go home again with her husband. So peace out, & this is much shorter than my original over sharing. 😂
Thanks for sharing!! And for being an RN!
I take collagen powder every morning in my coffee and it helps for the wrinkles under my eyes. I can tell a difference when I stop taking it but I realize this is only short term but it does help.
@@tammycobb7107 Dotto. I had remarks about my skin and general appearance looking good.
Thanks for sharing
Here in South Texas, many people eat fried pig skins, aka
chicharrones. Love your videos!
Yuck😂😂😂bone broth works
Oh wow! Thanks for watching
Can you please do a review on the benefits of infrared light therapy and if there are any at home devices that are approved for use? Great content. Thank you.
Great idea. We will add it to the list
Great information. I wondered about trying it but now I am on the fence about it.
Glad it was helpful! Good luck
I'm really enjoying your videos as they are informative and entertaining.
I'd not heard of "matcha tea" before seeing it in the comments here.
When I looked it up on Google it says that matcha contains a high level of caffeine. In the video about bone density, you said to avoid caffeine for strong bones so why is it good?
Thank you!
So caffeine itself is not bad for your bones but drinking caffeine with a meal where you are trying to absorb calcium is counter productive. Matcha is a very concentrated form of green tea and has all of its benefits like inflammation reduction and anti oxidants
I had gastric by pass 20 years ago, and have been taking collagen and multi vitamin daily as I am unable to digest most foods (in sufficient quanties) and it has helped my skin and hair, joint pain and nails. Not sure if it's the collagen but for being in my late 50 ^s I feel good
Sweet
I’ve started taking collagen powder with green matcha tea, I don’t believe it will increase collagen etc but I will finish it because I like benefits of the matcha in it. After that won’t waste my $.
Matcha is very good for you
Interesting. As usual, I learned new things, and also had fun and laughed while watching. Had just bought some collagen, and now I have more to consider. Thanks.
Wonderful!
I've been taking it for 2 years every morning in my coffee, about 4 months again I cut it back to half a scoop. What I've noticed less knee pain (I play and am a goalie) I've noticed hair and nail growth.
That’s awesome
I was taking collagen powder in my coffee for the past three years and I ran out about a week ago… I’m going to see if it makes any difference. So far none. I like that you’re giving pros and cons. I was diagnosed with osteopenia years ago so it’s possible the collagen improved it? I’ll need a bone scan to see. I run and do weight bearing exercise so how do you tease out which is helping? Thanks for your fun and informative videos!
It’s very hard to determine the contribution of each without stopping one at a time and checking again. See how it goes Jane. Thanks for watching!
What about possible side effects? Are there any?
Other than possible allergy or heavy metal not really
I never graduated from collegen , and at 64 years of age and now retired I think I m going to start classes again to see if I can get a college degree. Will taking collegen supplements help ?
Yes
thx a bunch for your videos and the humor , you guys and gals are the best
I take the bovine powder and one noticeable difference is my fingernails are definitely thicker.
Nice
So What u suggestions knee pain & plenty wrinkles..???
It’s a very personal decision
I saved my knees with exercise and diet . 👍
Very good!
I'm one of those people that, out of desperation and pain in my hips, hadn't eaten red meat (cow, pig, lamb etc) since I was 15yrs old. As city folk, my parents decided, in the early 1970's, to quite their jobs (Dad was a VP at GM here in the SF Bay Area) and buy a dairy farm. What I found out is that, #1 - I don't want to meet my dinner before I eat it. #2 - Animals are funny, smart, have personalities and give and receive love...WTHeck??? Let me also add, one of my new best friends I met, their family owned a meat lot and "processing" facility. My first introduction to what is being wrapped up and sold at our big chain supermarkets...now that is enough to make anyone rethink their diet. Anyway, I was having so much pain in my hips and shoulders, I broke down and plugged my nose, closed my mind, and started putting 4scoops (I've no idea what the actual measurement of the collagen was, but I bought all of it from Costco) of collagen in my coffee. I did this for 8 months, plenty of time to see, imo, noticeable difference. It didn't happen for me at all. I hated the taste and it was not cheap, actually quite pricey. I will say this, unlike other folks, after 8 months of adding those extra calories to my diet, already suffering from painful walking, I gained a good 20+ lbs. That collagen has som calories and I was not in shape to add a workout to my day. Thank Go, since then, I've had both hips replaced, and am currently waiting for the right time to have my shoulder replaced. At the end of the day, I"m not sure collagen supplements can trump (I hate using curse words!) bad genes.
Thank you for sharing your story
I stopped taking collagen over 2 years ago when moved to 100% whole food plant based; I did see vegan collagen in health-stores- what is it then?
Collagen builder.
What's the difference between bone broth and collagen? I use collagen and I can definitely say it does make my nails grow hard and fast. I have osteoporosis and I'm waiting for my bone scan in a year.
Love You Guy's!🥰
Thanks for your honest assessment of collagen. I am thinking exactly the same. I think there would be better results by making a yogurt with L Reuteri cultures. Dr. Davis swears by it.
Be sure to get enough Glycine, one third of all collagen is made from that one amino acid, they say as you get older the body doesn't make enough and many common protein foods that people consume doesn't contain enough. I take a Glycine supplement and can definitely tell a difference.
Hell yes, this was a huge deal for me
I got tryptophan before it was answered!!!
Congratulations!!!🎉
Thank you!
You're welcome!
I appreciate All of these unbiased reviews, you guys rock! I wont be forking my $ over for collagen anytime soon
Appreciate it. Thanks for watching
I've been feeling great and working out every day since I started putting in oatmeal and coffee. Seems to work for something. Only supplement I've noticed do something
Is there such a thing as marine collagen? UK
Yes there is
I’m in Canada and buy marine collagen from a company called Landish.
Been taking collagen supps for a couple of years now and I've had great results but you have to make sure you aren't missing any of the co-factors, of which there are many. If your body doesn't have the necessary ingredients on hand it just doesn't work. Were the studies controlling the co-factors as well? Collagen synthesis falls off at about 1% per year starting from about your mid-20's, the older you are the faster your collagen degrades. IMO you can't start supplementing early enough, through diet or otherwise. Maybe try some safe cheap micro needling for more troublesome areas or age spots/wrinkles in conjunction with supps. YMMV
Thanks for sharing. Not sure about the cofactors
Would this help with tennis elbow pain?
Zinc and a Boron supplement repaired my tennis elbow, may fix yours.
Hmmm probably not. More of an inflammatory issue. We have a video about that!
@samr7372 @@TalkingWithDocs Try shockwave treatment instead, very painful but effective.
Can you do a segment on EDS and the effects it has on collagen?
I have EDS and my take on collagen supplements is that since the collagen my body produces is crap collagen, and the collagen molecule is broken down anyway, my body uses the new collagen to make more crap collagen. .
Do they?
Hard to say
Bone Broth 👍
I took Vital Proteins for a whole year and noticed absolutely no difference in anything. Not hair, skin, nails, joints, absolutely nothing. For me it was a waste of money 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for sharing
My brother is into collagen. He also was one of those claiming it could grow back cartilage and suggested i should eat it for my hip (which i didn´t), i call him MR placebo hehe.. I rarely find that people who eat 5-10 pills of supplements believe in real studies or the clinical effect of it, not sure why but they sure as hell don´t believe in the placebo effect and often doesn´t even know what it means 😁
Thanks for sharing
60% of the time, it works every time! 😆
Love that line! Brian that smells like pure gasoline 🤣
@@TalkingWithDocs 🤣🤣
Did not work in my case . My arthritis doctor dose not believe in it , said not to waste money .
Yes some feel that way for sure
Biotin when store's out!
On a different note, what is your opinion on shock absorber implants in osteoarthritic knees?
Hmmm not familiar with them
@TalkingWithDocs Misha knee system. Mainly in the UK. Looks interesting. Let me know what you think!
Seems like there are SO many things that are deemed to be a placebo I’m going to start selling placebo tablets 🤔 What do you think? Eh?
These dubious pills seem like one of the worst reasons for breaking the vegan conduct. The skin that is continuously lost and rebuilt is more than those two capsules. I thought I could cheat by eating gelatin until I looked at the price of a small packet. Tryptophan sounds like a fan of going on trips, lol.
Gelatin is usually pig 🐖.
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Thanks so much !
@TalkingWithDocs
My pleasure, love you guys.
I’m plant based not for the animals but for me. Yes I’m selfish. That’s the truth.
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