It would cool for him to look at the team fortress 2 weapons added to h3vr. The dev tried to make them slightly more believable and even created new calibres to match the cartoony sizes of some of the guns
I know some people are just entertained by him cringing, but I think its actually interesting to see him search for possible inspirations and mechanical functions of those weird weapons. Its like watching someone very knowledgeable do a very strange theoretic exercise.
They actually consulted Jonathan to make some of the Marauders weapons, so it would indeed be interesting to see his reaction to the final implementation.
One thing a lot of games seems to get wrong about a lot of early semi-auto rifles like the SVT-40, is that they weren't really reloaded by swapping the magazine but instead were fed by 5 round stripper clips (same ones as for the M1891 family of rifles).
@@Dezzyyy svts in Canada are pretty cheap, but yeah in the us they are like around 2500 which isn’t ungodly expensive but isn’t cheap rifle by any means
@@85blutch To my knowledge G43 was issued with atleast 4 magazines. Some people say even with 8 but im going with the lower number as i dont recall seeing any solid evidence for 8.
I hope like with Hunt Showdown the dev team of HLL make some adjustments to the weapons. As much as I like the Nagant Revolver, its iron sights are UNUSABLE!
I would recommend Jonathan reacting to the weapons of Valkyria chronciles since while the firearms clearly are ww2 inspired they still have lot of fantasy elements. Espacially would be interesting seing him reacting to how the weapons look at the beginning vs getting mire and more upgraded or seeing him reacting to more wacky weapons like the anti tank lance or mortars of the series.
I'd actually love to hear him talking about the weapon's suitability and usage for the role. We all pretty much play the game as we like it, but he might have something to say about actually using stormtrooper class weapons as offensive vs defensive, how the scout weapons work with self defence vs flanking attacks and a basic run down of tank tactics.
There was a development for firing on the move with the M1919. During the Island Hopping campaigns in the Pacific theater, GySgt. John Basilone made a wire and wood handle that slipped over the barrel which allowed him to carry and fire the M1919 on the run.
That was I believe a variant called the stinger which was a model that was used in aircraft that a marine modified he essentially didn't want to have squad mates being targeted for carrying ammo so he invented the stinger
@@tylerchapman7846 That was an improvised piece of gear that GySgt Basilone made on his own, it wasn't a regular piece of equipment. He had burned his hands while firing his M1919 while moving it between positions during the Battle of Guadalcanal.
This is probably the best Bazooka interpretation ever just because they did remember to include the animation of pulling the rocket ignition wire to the circuit.
One thing I noticed immediately on the M1919 was the cartridges get shot out to the right like any regular rifle or pistol would. The casings should be coming out the bottom of the gun after firing not shot out at Mach 3 to the right
Glad I'm not the only one... the ejection port on the right side is where the gun kinda barfs out the belt, either disintegrating links or cotton duck, or whatever you were using, because the 1919 don't care, the 1919 was designed to eat whatever belt you fed it.
Please Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.
.45 huh? Incredible. The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen... The slide's been reinforced, and the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger... a long type trigger with non-slip grooves... A ring hammer... The base of the trigger guard's been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun is expertly crafted and customized.
@Robert S. it was also a fair bit lighter. Making it a more viable option to " run and gun" you'd still have to be a unit but a less exhausting proposition
@Cyrus Hansen yeah and they hodgepodged a BAR bipod and carry handle, and a garand stock (I think it was a garand stock at least) onto it and boom your have a stinger lol
@@DCGMatthew1 i think he's said it's a dead game because it rarely breaches 1,000 concurrent players, also if it was dead it might be annoying to get any footage of the weapons or smth
@@Yourantsally I mean, Post Scriptum has a ton of weapons HLL doesn't, also, they're modelled differently and have different animations, that's why I said I wanted him to compare them.
@@Dung30n For sure, but I reckon they may have sources/contacts who can help provide footage of the different guns. Plus, even if not, they can get access by picking the guns up, although kinda hit or miss on finding them and getting footage
Unfortunately, English is not like French. No one gets to decide what a word really means. Just look at the people that insist that the ammunition container you clip to your firearm cannot possibly be a clip just sitting there being happily, repeatedly, and vehemently wrong.
The brass deflector of the real FG42/II is actually slightly canted forward as the one you have at the Royal Armouries (that's definitely its shape, not bent or damaged), so it's an overlook from the developer although I never noticed until you pointed that out.
Looks like they've used the reproduction rather than the original as their reference - at least 2 of the companies making replica/reproduction FG42s have it like in the game.
On the Browning M1919 Mr. Ferguson got it wrong the Browning is really a very unknown gun called the “Stinger” if you look the Browning icon on the bottom right it would take the shape of the Stinger.
German Ex-Machinegunner here. We were taught to double-grip the pipod of the MG3 when firing from the hip, so i can somewhat confirm it is a legit technique. When i was serving, it was called "Hollywood-" , "Ami (American)" or "Rambo-Style", for obvious reason. You can't fire more that 3 -4 round without going off target though.
I'd like to see Jonathan's take on the guns in Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 4. I have a feeling he might groan a bit at the overcomplication of the higher end guns and the AT Lances, but still would be cool to see what he thinks.
Another great episode! Something I actually noticed (because I actually own one of the guns for once) is that the rear sight on the Luger is a very deep and wide U, compared to the tight V that mine (and every other that I've seen) sports. Maybe for gameplay, but I think that I'd prefer the realistic sight over the one they have in game.
This is a deliberate decision, almost all games opt for readability over realism because a flatscreen monitor is not the same as your eyes. Realistic sights do not translate well which would make using every weapon artificially difficult, and that really isn't worth it for the minority of players who will spot it.
@@daveface69 I would prefer the realistic sight because, while narrower, they are also easier to use and be more accurate with, and would be in game as well. Not for historical reasons.
Red Orchestra 2 has a good selection off WW2 guns, mainly from the Russian front Or MGS4 for its modern(2008) weapons and customisation options, plus some stuff like the rail gun just some suggestions
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the bazooka in their collection appears to be an M1, not and M1A1. The M6 rocket was loaded into the M1 bazooka and the round made contact at the widest part of the rocket, at the large box near the rear of the tube, as well as by a fin at the opening. This design proved very unreliable. The improved M6A1 rocket used a wire that would be clipped into one of two coil springs at the rear of the M1A1 rocket launcher.
Someone suggested the weaponry of Valkyria chronciles. I concur it would be interesting to see an alternate take of WW2. Especially the anti tank weapons they have.
You should check the weaponry in the Verdun, Tannenberg and Isonzo games, as a Tannenberg enjoyer and romanian lad I can say they nailed the romanian guns, I even saw the romanian royal armoury sigil on the outside of the chamber on a Mannlicher model of ours. Very detailed set of games
Fun fact the FG42 had a working bipod in the first 2 PTE’s but it was removed for the launch cause it was unbalanced… they could have just let us use the MG roles BAR bipod to offset it it was fun though still have some footage of it
Love these video's. Hope to see him react to more fictional guns too. Always fun to see him try and make sense of the mechanisms of fictional weapons. (Like the guns from Killzone, which hasnt been featured yet)
I used the M2 Flamethrower at the National Museum of the Pacific War in Fredericksburg, Texas when we did the living history re-enactments. When I burned the bunker it did not look like that. It was just pure flame coming out. But I couldn’t look for long because it was so hot it burned my eyes
now i couldn't say for sure but it looks like the springfield 1903 in this game is a model A4, not an A3. There doesn't seem to be a front sight post on the model in-game, which was a feature of the A4, which had no iron sights and was intended to be used only with the scope. The A3 had a front sight post, since it wasn't intended for marksman use.
With the release of Freelancer mode, which allows players to inspect the weapon models in detail, it would be nice to have Jonathan have a look at the weapons in Hitman 3 again, especially with how they do have built-in weapon configurations and some “horrifying” rubber duck themed skins introduced in the post-launch updates. …and they’ve got two variants, no less, of his favourite gun, the MP5!
They just released and here are all the weapons: Lanchester SMG (50 round box magazine) STEN SMG Bren LMG Lewis gun MMG Lee Enfield mk1 no4 Rifle M1914 Pattent rifle Jungle Carbine (Short Lee Enfield) PIAT BOYS AT Rifle and the Mk VI Revolver
Having been completely blown away after visiting the Imperial War Museum there's not a single day that I don't regret not visiting the RAM when I lived in London. It's on the top of my bucket list now, thanks to the show. =D
Just a note about the G43: In real life the primary method of reloading was via stripper clips through the top and NOT switching out the magazines. Most troops issued the G43 Were issued only 1 or 2 spare magazines (sometimes NO spare magazines), and were given pouches of 5 round stripper clips. More often than not- reloads were similar to the 10 round Enfield reloads.
Hip-firing the MG-34 (and MG-42) by gripping the bipod is described explicitly in Heeresdienstvorschrift 130/2a (Army Regulation 130/2a, March 1941). To quote from memory: "The LMG is to be loaded with a 50-round belt box, and the strap adjusted to that it may be worn on the right side of the body. (smaller riflemen may shorten the sling by looping it around the grip.) The right hand is used to keep the machine gun pressed closely to the body, and the left hand is to grip the bipod to the side, and control the aim in this way. Fire is to be opened at the shortest distance, and the shooter must reach over the feeder with his right hand to disengage the safety only before firing." There's more about unjamming only from prone and things like that, but it was explicit trained technique.
Might be an editor error, or Jonathan looking at the wrong part of the FG42(which i doubt), but when Jonathan points out the cartridge deflector being too perpindicular to the gun than the museum reference at 5:19, the screen shows a photo of the charging handle of the FG42 and not the actual cartridge deflector. Don't know if anyone else noticed this.
On the FG42 deflector, I've seen multiple examples where there is a forward slant to it, but sometimes there isn't. The original prototype defector was also straight. It may be a variance depending on when it was made, it may also be a result of damage in some cases. Hard to know.
It seems like the toggle on the P08 is moving too slow, normally it seems like it moves too fast to see. Also the 1895 Nagant seems to fire first and have the hammer move after
Jonathan!!! the m1919 you miss about the empty brass flying out the side which is wrong!! fall out the bottom and the link flyies out the side or the cloth belt come out lol disappointed you missed that hahahahah
Slight correction with the Bazooka projectile dropping: Regardless of the rocket providing propulsion it does not generate lift. Therefore it will just be pulled down by gravity like any other projectile.
The bazooka definitely is a high explosive warhead. Newtons third says that to send the plasticised 'carrot' out with that amount of force, the same amount of explosive force goes out in all the opposing directions. So definitely a blast on the target. Some flame definitely, but I have no idea about the quantity.
I'd really love to see Reciever 1 and 2 here! They've really tried to model the guns faithfully and completely, and you can manipulate them in really interesting ways
Men like John Ferguson built the British Empire: Passionate and knowledgeable about the tools of the trade, proficient with said weapons, and ready to stack bodies for King and Country. Most classicaly British man today ever.
Please return Jonathan back to PAYDAY 2 again. It seems more DLC weapons like McShay weaponry could be another to look for, such as the: - Standard Manufacturing SKO-12 - Vollmer HK51B - NIGHTHAWK CUSTOM Korth NXA - SAINT Victor .308 AR-10 - Ohio Ordnance H.C.A.R. - Thompson/Center Arms G2 Contender Or maybe let him talk about the two John Wick weapons, the TTI TR1-Ultralight and H&K P30L.
Jonathan does it again! Playing this game for a long while and pretty much was happy with how they did the weapons in the game. Overall, the animators really did a fantastic job and research! However, I do wish for the Thompson m1a1 sight to be original and not modified 😢
12:45 Not really, back when I was an MG sql I fired the MG3 very effectively from the hip and I'm by no means big or had much upper body strength. Well, 181 cm and 70 kg. Very slim, I could walk for days though. What I found to be the best way to hipfire was to have the canvas sling across from the opposite shoulder so the weight was no issue and have the left hand grasp the bipod all the way in by the barrel shroud. Not at the very end like in this game. Gave me much more muzzle control. We did a number of drills like this; advancing, firing, advancing, firing. Multiple targets etc. Max range was 50 m. Closest was 5. Small bursts of 2-5 bullets to the chest was no problem after some practice.
Why does no one talk about the background table of arms. I bet whoever does that each episode really enjoys picking some out for us. I hope its Jonathan.
1:25 In general, early man portable anti-tank rockets (MANPATS/MPATS) and their launcher were in their infancy. The M1 Bazooka and RPzB 54 "Panzershreck" essentially being the first generation of such a system. The M1 had a rough effective range of 140 yards, but could be fired against area targets further away. While the rockets were effective at knocking out tanks, the user both has to be within range (which is already too close) and has to not miss. The rocket motors were inefficient giving the projectiles a low velocity and a low range. The M1 was more effective as an anti-structure weapon than as an anti-tank tool, but a brave enough soldier could very well knock out a tank with one.
If anyone is curious were to look for german Wehrmacht training manuals look for the H. Dv 130/2a. Thats the Manual for Weapon training and squad tactics. As far as i know there are versions of that dating up to 1942. So they cover the most common weapons in use of the Wehrmacht up to 1942.
6:00 small detail to note, the flame thrower shown in the game is not very realistic. in the game it depicts the fuel being poured out instead of a spray, because flamethrowers spray the fuel, it doesnt pour it out as depicted in the game giving it that more round look rather than a outwards cone spraying effect.
Funny that Wolfenstien Enemy territory had mobile heavy machine guns, but you had to set them up. The idea of running and gunning with an emplaced MG is so derp.
Bit of a throwback, but seeing Jonathan look at some of the Bioshock weapons (either 1 or Infinite) would be interesting to see. I'm sure the "modifications" on the original Bioshock weapons would cause him a bit of confusion
The team 17 need asap change tank damage, The tank can not have life, where crew can only die if the tank is destroyed, or even be running behind the tank to give panzerfaust shot in the rear of the tank
One arguable inaccuracy in the game’s depiction of the Luger that Jonathon doesn’t mention is the slowness of the toggle lock mechanism animation as it fires. In reality that mechanism is much faster being practically a momentary flash to the human eye as it recycles with every fired round. 🙂
So the STG isn't in this video, but in case Johnathan watches or anyone else cares, we can all get our own emotional support STGs soon enough. PSA is working with HMG to get their STG44 copies produced, hopefully everything goes well.
I think I've seen some footage by mercenaries in the kongo where a madlad actually wielded a browning machine gun like it is depicted in the videogame.
G43, SVT-40: Given the severe resource shortages, how often would soldiers actually be issued spare magazines? Would they use stripper clips instead? Luger: How often would Germans actually carry a spare magazine? What about non-officers? Browning 1919a6: How would a single soldier actually shoot this thing if the ammo box is not attached to the gun? Loose belt or something?
Aside from handguns, there really aren't that many restrictions on firearms in the UK. Plenty of gunshops and ranges near where I live. Most people are able to own as many shotguns as they'd want to.
I think coverage of the stalker series and including the anomaly gamma mod with be a wonderful buildup to stalker 2. I specifically wanna see Jonathan mull over the maintenance system in gamma and ammunition variety in the series
I'm kinda disappointed that Jonathan didn't mention how the Rockets for the M1 Bazooka had a Copper Wire near the Tail end of the Rocket where after you load the Rocket into the Bazooka, there is a Small Stud or Pin where you wrap the Copper Wire around since the M1 Bazooka what a lot of people don't know is "Electrical" Fired and that large Wooden Shoulder Stock is actually where the Battery is located. When the Germans Reversed Engineer the M1 Bazooka that eventually led to the Panzerschreck, they decided to use a sort of "Punch Generator" or basically a Dynamo that spins when you pull the Trigger in order to create an Electrical Current enough to Fire the Rocket of the Panzerschreck, eliminating the need of a Large Battery.
The weapons of "Post Scriptum" are more realistic, as is the game overall. Because it covers early - late war, and a few less ubiquitous campaigns, it features a lot of arms that aren't WW2 fps standard fare; MAS-38, LG-40, Lewis gun, Vickers K, MAS Mle 1873, PA 1935a, MAS-38, MP34(o), Lebel's, Berthier's, Panzerbuchse 39, ZB-26, FM24/29, Chauchat Mle 1915, PIAT's, Gammons, etc. The sound design and weapon handling are decidedly better, giving more presence, percussion, and authenticity to pulling the trigger. Hope you'd consider reviewing that.
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“Sorry, museum flex. We do have more than one.” Hilarious.
too bad its the charging handle hes pointing at
He is a king of subtle comedy
@@Martinlegend Ferguson points at the shell deflector, but the screen grab from the game focuses on the charging handle
@@ironbunny4121 Adam Mason must have been confused given the proximity of the handle to the case deflector when switching to open-bolt
lol?
I'd love to see Jonathan look at receiver 1 and 2 as a double feature, since Receiver 1 has so few but it's still worth looking at
Ohhhh YES!
Good choice!
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It would cool for him to look at the team fortress 2 weapons added to h3vr. The dev tried to make them slightly more believable and even created new calibres to match the cartoony sizes of some of the guns
That would be so great! Please GameSpot!
I know some people are just entertained by him cringing, but I think its actually interesting to see him search for possible inspirations and mechanical functions of those weird weapons. Its like watching someone very knowledgeable do a very strange theoretic exercise.
wait... have they not done that already?
@@Zack_Wester The original ones, yes. Not sure about Meat Fortress.
Dave I think it's time for Marauders. I'm sure Jonathan will love how you can bodge a suppressor onto everything.
Indeed
They actually consulted Jonathan to make some of the Marauders weapons, so it would indeed be interesting to see his reaction to the final implementation.
@@Danteska90 Oh wow that's really cool! Thanks for letting me know E'lir ^^
I just checked my 1943 SVT40, and you are right Jonathan, you do need to rock the magazine in a bit more than depicted. Great video as always!
Thanks for flexing on us poors
One thing a lot of games seems to get wrong about a lot of early semi-auto rifles like the SVT-40, is that they weren't really reloaded by swapping the magazine but instead were fed by 5 round stripper clips (same ones as for the M1891 family of rifles).
@@Dezzyyy svts in Canada are pretty cheap, but yeah in the us they are like around 2500 which isn’t ungodly expensive but isn’t cheap rifle by any means
@@jiggiwatt Yeah, in the ones that did use mags (which is only the SVT and Gewehr 43) they often had 1 or 2 spare mags and then it was stripper clips.
@@85blutch To my knowledge G43 was issued with atleast 4 magazines. Some people say even with 8 but im going with the lower number as i dont recall seeing any solid evidence for 8.
I hope like with Hunt Showdown the dev team of HLL make some adjustments to the weapons. As much as I like the Nagant Revolver, its iron sights are UNUSABLE!
I would recommend Jonathan reacting to the weapons of Valkyria chronciles since while the firearms clearly are ww2 inspired they still have lot of fantasy elements. Espacially would be interesting seing him reacting to how the weapons look at the beginning vs getting mire and more upgraded or seeing him reacting to more wacky weapons like the anti tank lance or mortars of the series.
I can already imagine his face when he reacts to it
I second this.
I Concur
@@andreiogaya what about Warframe weaponry then?))
I'd actually love to hear him talking about the weapon's suitability and usage for the role. We all pretty much play the game as we like it, but he might have something to say about actually using stormtrooper class weapons as offensive vs defensive, how the scout weapons work with self defence vs flanking attacks and a basic run down of tank tactics.
There was a development for firing on the move with the M1919. During the Island Hopping campaigns in the Pacific theater, GySgt. John Basilone made a wire and wood handle that slipped over the barrel which allowed him to carry and fire the M1919 on the run.
That was I believe a variant called the stinger which was a model that was used in aircraft that a marine modified he essentially didn't want to have squad mates being targeted for carrying ammo so he invented the stinger
@@tylerchapman7846 That was an improvised piece of gear that GySgt Basilone made on his own, it wasn't a regular piece of equipment. He had burned his hands while firing his M1919 while moving it between positions during the Battle of Guadalcanal.
This is probably the best Bazooka interpretation ever just because they did remember to include the animation of pulling the rocket ignition wire to the circuit.
One thing I noticed immediately on the M1919 was the cartridges get shot out to the right like any regular rifle or pistol would. The casings should be coming out the bottom of the gun after firing not shot out at Mach 3 to the right
Glad I'm not the only one... the ejection port on the right side is where the gun kinda barfs out the belt, either disintegrating links or cotton duck, or whatever you were using, because the 1919 don't care, the 1919 was designed to eat whatever belt you fed it.
Please Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons.
So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.
.45 huh? Incredible. The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen... The slide's been reinforced, and the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger... a long type trigger with non-slip grooves... A ring hammer... The base of the trigger guard's been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun is expertly crafted and customized.
@@paulopatine But is the internal feed mechanism shaped like an infinity symbol?
Small thing to add the Browning M1919 being fired from the "hip" reminds me of the pacific modded M1919 called the stinger just a neat detail.
The "Stinger" wasn't your standard M1919 - it was an AN/M2 for use in aircraft, with a rate of fire of 1,200 rpm.
@Robert S. it was also a fair bit lighter. Making it a more viable option to " run and gun" you'd still have to be a unit but a less exhausting proposition
@@RobertS1089 Thank you couldn't remember which variant it was/called.
@Cyrus Hansen yeah and they hodgepodged a BAR bipod and carry handle, and a garand stock (I think it was a garand stock at least) onto it and boom your have a stinger lol
Would love to see Post Scriptum, some of the most authentic looking and sounding WW2 guns of any game imo
dead game
@@HareyMon It isn't at all, but even if it was, how would that stop the from looking at it?
@@DCGMatthew1 i think he's said it's a dead game because it rarely breaches 1,000 concurrent players, also if it was dead it might be annoying to get any footage of the weapons or smth
@@heliveruscalion9124 There's tons of gameplay online, not to mention a firing range in-game.
You gotta have him look at Post Scriptum and compare it to HLL.
Post Scriptum is just something else man....
THIS, have been hoping they will do Post Scriptum.
The guns aren't different... just gameplay...
@@Yourantsally I mean, Post Scriptum has a ton of weapons HLL doesn't, also, they're modelled differently and have different animations, that's why I said I wanted him to compare them.
Why post scritum is dead
I am Officially putting my hat in the ring for the "guy who provides you game play clips" 5:35 COME ON MY GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's probably not a popular request, but I'd love a look at the guns from 'Enlisted'
the slight issue with that is the grind to unlock most of the weapons before showing them off.
@@Dung30n For sure, but I reckon they may have sources/contacts who can help provide footage of the different guns. Plus, even if not, they can get access by picking the guns up, although kinda hit or miss on finding them and getting footage
Reacting to Enlisted Weapons would be cool they have a lot of unique historical guns i have never seen used in other ww2 games
Yeah, they draw very heavily from the experimental/limited deployment weapons of the various militaries.
0:49 I love how like any true historian, he is visibly annoyed that people call every rocket launcher a “Bazooka”
Unfortunately, English is not like French. No one gets to decide what a word really means.
Just look at the people that insist that the ammunition container you clip to your firearm cannot possibly be a clip just sitting there being happily, repeatedly, and vehemently wrong.
The brass deflector of the real FG42/II is actually slightly canted forward as the one you have at the Royal Armouries (that's definitely its shape, not bent or damaged), so it's an overlook from the developer although I never noticed until you pointed that out.
Looks like they've used the reproduction rather than the original as their reference - at least 2 of the companies making replica/reproduction FG42s have it like in the game.
On the Browning M1919 Mr. Ferguson got it wrong the Browning is really a very unknown gun called the “Stinger” if you look the Browning icon on the bottom right it would take the shape of the Stinger.
German Ex-Machinegunner here. We were taught to double-grip the pipod of the MG3 when firing from the hip, so i can somewhat confirm it is a legit technique. When i was serving, it was called "Hollywood-" , "Ami (American)" or "Rambo-Style", for obvious reason. You can't fire more that 3 -4 round without going off target though.
they zoomed in on the charging handle if anyone was wondering why it looked so different in the game to his FG42
Johnathan is absolutely great I love his passion for the "artifacts" and the history behind them
I'd like to see Jonathan's take on the guns in Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 4. I have a feeling he might groan a bit at the overcomplication of the higher end guns and the AT Lances, but still would be cool to see what he thinks.
You gotta do "Post Scriptum" game, most realistic yet iv'e seen in a WW2 FPS.
Another great episode!
Something I actually noticed (because I actually own one of the guns for once) is that the rear sight on the Luger is a very deep and wide U, compared to the tight V that mine (and every other that I've seen) sports. Maybe for gameplay, but I think that I'd prefer the realistic sight over the one they have in game.
This is a deliberate decision, almost all games opt for readability over realism because a flatscreen monitor is not the same as your eyes. Realistic sights do not translate well which would make using every weapon artificially difficult, and that really isn't worth it for the minority of players who will spot it.
@@daveface69 I would prefer the realistic sight because, while narrower, they are also easier to use and be more accurate with, and would be in game as well. Not for historical reasons.
Red Orchestra 2 has a good selection off WW2 guns, mainly from the Russian front
Or MGS4 for its modern(2008) weapons and customisation options, plus some stuff like the rail gun
just some suggestions
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the bazooka in their collection appears to be an M1, not and M1A1.
The M6 rocket was loaded into the M1 bazooka and the round made contact at the widest part of the rocket, at the large box near the rear of the tube, as well as by a fin at the opening. This design proved very unreliable.
The improved M6A1 rocket used a wire that would be clipped into one of two coil springs at the rear of the M1A1 rocket launcher.
Really hope Jonathan can look at the weapons of Killzone someday! He'll probably find them pretty interesting.
Someone suggested the weaponry of Valkyria chronciles.
I concur it would be interesting to see an alternate take of WW2.
Especially the anti tank weapons they have.
You should check the weaponry in the Verdun, Tannenberg and Isonzo games, as a Tannenberg enjoyer and romanian lad I can say they nailed the romanian guns, I even saw the romanian royal armoury sigil on the outside of the chamber on a Mannlicher model of ours. Very detailed set of games
Fun fact the FG42 had a working bipod in the first 2 PTE’s but it was removed for the launch cause it was unbalanced… they could have just let us use the MG roles BAR bipod to offset it it was fun though still have some footage of it
Love these video's. Hope to see him react to more fictional guns too. Always fun to see him try and make sense of the mechanisms of fictional weapons. (Like the guns from Killzone, which hasnt been featured yet)
I used the M2 Flamethrower at the National Museum of the Pacific War in Fredericksburg, Texas when we did the living history re-enactments. When I burned the bunker it did not look like that. It was just pure flame coming out. But I couldn’t look for long because it was so hot it burned my eyes
now i couldn't say for sure but it looks like the springfield 1903 in this game is a model A4, not an A3. There doesn't seem to be a front sight post on the model in-game, which was a feature of the A4, which had no iron sights and was intended to be used only with the scope. The A3 had a front sight post, since it wasn't intended for marksman use.
Jonathan should react to post scriptum, in my opinion it has even more realistic guns
With the release of Freelancer mode, which allows players to inspect the weapon models in detail, it would be nice to have Jonathan have a look at the weapons in Hitman 3 again, especially with how they do have built-in weapon configurations and some “horrifying” rubber duck themed skins introduced in the post-launch updates.
…and they’ve got two variants, no less, of his favourite gun, the MP5!
Great point about the muzzle flash. I never would have noticed how prominent it is
Update 14 is coming on the 25th which includes the British faction so I would love to see Jonathan react to the newest weapons in the game :)
They just released and here are all the weapons:
Lanchester SMG (50 round box magazine)
STEN SMG
Bren LMG
Lewis gun MMG
Lee Enfield mk1 no4 Rifle
M1914 Pattent rifle
Jungle Carbine (Short Lee Enfield)
PIAT
BOYS AT Rifle
and the Mk VI Revolver
Having been completely blown away after visiting the Imperial War Museum there's not a single day that I don't regret not visiting the RAM when I lived in London. It's on the top of my bucket list now, thanks to the show. =D
My favorite part of the intro of this series is "which houses THUSNUHCONIC weapons from thorough history."
How fun, your Luger is in my favourite colour combination: black on black.
Still after all these years they still do not do slings on the guns. Pet peeve of mine.
Just a note about the G43: In real life the primary method of reloading was via stripper clips through the top and NOT switching out the magazines. Most troops issued the G43 Were issued only 1 or 2 spare magazines (sometimes NO spare magazines), and were given pouches of 5 round stripper clips. More often than not- reloads were similar to the 10 round Enfield reloads.
Hip-firing the MG-34 (and MG-42) by gripping the bipod is described explicitly in Heeresdienstvorschrift 130/2a (Army Regulation 130/2a, March 1941). To quote from memory: "The LMG is to be loaded with a 50-round belt box, and the strap adjusted to that it may be worn on the right side of the body. (smaller riflemen may shorten the sling by looping it around the grip.) The right hand is used to keep the machine gun pressed closely to the body, and the left hand is to grip the bipod to the side, and control the aim in this way. Fire is to be opened at the shortest distance, and the shooter must reach over the feeder with his right hand to disengage the safety only before firing." There's more about unjamming only from prone and things like that, but it was explicit trained technique.
Might be an editor error, or Jonathan looking at the wrong part of the FG42(which i doubt), but when Jonathan points out the cartridge deflector being too perpindicular to the gun than the museum reference at 5:19, the screen shows a photo of the charging handle of the FG42 and not the actual cartridge deflector. Don't know if anyone else noticed this.
He should do a video with forgotten weapons reviewing game weapons
That would be a professional discourtesy as Ian McCollum already had a business relationship with IGN
On the FG42 deflector, I've seen multiple examples where there is a forward slant to it, but sometimes there isn't. The original prototype defector was also straight. It may be a variance depending on when it was made, it may also be a result of damage in some cases. Hard to know.
I just recently bought a 1903A3 and I love it to pieces.
It seems like the toggle on the P08 is moving too slow, normally it seems like it moves too fast to see. Also the 1895 Nagant seems to fire first and have the hammer move after
I don’t know if I’m the only one but I think it would be really cool if Jonathan reacted to Titanfall 2’s guns. Love the vids
At least gamespot isnt torturing Jonathan in this episode
Yeah but its so much fun when we can hear him get more grey hair
Would love a reaction to Metal Gear Solid 4's weapons. So much customization and variety 😀
I liked firing the Browning 1919A6 in this game for that feel and punchy firing sound was satisfying. Using it to great effect for suppressive fire.
Killzone weapons would be interesting to let him take a look at
Jonathan!!! the m1919 you miss about the empty brass flying out the side which is wrong!! fall out the bottom and the link flyies out the side or the cloth belt come out lol disappointed you missed that hahahahah
Slight correction with the Bazooka projectile dropping: Regardless of the rocket providing propulsion it does not generate lift. Therefore it will just be pulled down by gravity like any other projectile.
The MG42 is soooooo satisfying to use in this game. It really sells that overwhelming fire rate.
Gotta admit he really knows his stuff! On guns AND games!
The bazooka definitely is a high explosive warhead. Newtons third says that to send the plasticised 'carrot' out with that amount of force, the same amount of explosive force goes out in all the opposing directions. So definitely a blast on the target. Some flame definitely, but I have no idea about the quantity.
Finally getting the love it deserves
My favourite gun of all time the FG42, and it's criminally underused in games
I'd really love to see Reciever 1 and 2 here! They've really tried to model the guns faithfully and completely, and you can manipulate them in really interesting ways
Men like John Ferguson built the British Empire: Passionate and knowledgeable about the tools of the trade, proficient with said weapons, and ready to stack bodies for King and Country.
Most classicaly British man today ever.
Please return Jonathan back to PAYDAY 2 again.
It seems more DLC weapons like McShay weaponry could be another to look for, such as the:
- Standard Manufacturing SKO-12
- Vollmer HK51B
- NIGHTHAWK CUSTOM Korth NXA
- SAINT Victor .308 AR-10
- Ohio Ordnance H.C.A.R.
- Thompson/Center Arms G2 Contender
Or maybe let him talk about the two John Wick weapons, the TTI TR1-Ultralight and H&K P30L.
Thanks Jonathan for entertaining couple of years my life. If gonna get my vacation plans this year allright, gotta mos def visit your museum!
The backblast on the bazooka shot at 0:39 might toast your buns pretty well IRL
Jonathan does it again! Playing this game for a long while and pretty much was happy with how they did the weapons in the game. Overall, the animators really did a fantastic job and research! However, I do wish for the Thompson m1a1 sight to be original and not modified 😢
Could you please compare the weapons from post scriptum? I'd love to see some of the subtle differences
12:45 Not really, back when I was an MG sql I fired the MG3 very effectively from the hip and I'm by no means big or had much upper body strength. Well, 181 cm and 70 kg. Very slim, I could walk for days though. What I found to be the best way to hipfire was to have the canvas sling across from the opposite shoulder so the weight was no issue and have the left hand grasp the bipod all the way in by the barrel shroud. Not at the very end like in this game. Gave me much more muzzle control. We did a number of drills like this; advancing, firing, advancing, firing. Multiple targets etc. Max range was 50 m. Closest was 5. Small bursts of 2-5 bullets to the chest was no problem after some practice.
Of course it’s easier to effectively hipfire it, the MG3 is in a slightly smaller cartridge, is lighter, and shoots slower than an MG42.
Wouldnt 8mm mauser vs 308 on an mg3 make a fair bit of difference for hip firing it?
Why does no one talk about the background table of arms. I bet whoever does that each episode really enjoys picking some out for us. I hope its Jonathan.
1:25 In general, early man portable anti-tank rockets (MANPATS/MPATS) and their launcher were in their infancy. The M1 Bazooka and RPzB 54 "Panzershreck" essentially being the first generation of such a system. The M1 had a rough effective range of 140 yards, but could be fired against area targets further away. While the rockets were effective at knocking out tanks, the user both has to be within range (which is already too close) and has to not miss. The rocket motors were inefficient giving the projectiles a low velocity and a low range. The M1 was more effective as an anti-structure weapon than as an anti-tank tool, but a brave enough soldier could very well knock out a tank with one.
Wondering if it would be possible for Jonathan to check out the surprisingly well modeled weapons of Cultic.
If anyone is curious were to look for german Wehrmacht training manuals look for the H. Dv 130/2a. Thats the Manual for Weapon training and squad tactics. As far as i know there are versions of that dating up to 1942. So they cover the most common weapons in use of the Wehrmacht up to 1942.
6:00 small detail to note, the flame thrower shown in the game is not very realistic. in the game it depicts the fuel being poured out instead of a spray, because flamethrowers spray the fuel, it doesnt pour it out as depicted in the game giving it that more round look rather than a outwards cone spraying effect.
Funny that Wolfenstien Enemy territory had mobile heavy machine guns, but you had to set them up.
The idea of running and gunning with an emplaced MG is so derp.
If I’m correct with the FG42 the pattern II had a “bent” little handle on the shell ejection unlike the pattern I that had a straight one
Real mvp is the guy that had to grind this game to get all these guns
I love how the MG42 is being talked about as a historic weapon while still being in service in several modern, western countries today haha
I recently saw levelcap upload a video on the guns in star citizen, would love to see you guys do a video on the weapons in that game.
The Weapons of The Order 1886. Some actual designs in and around the time period and some crazy steampunk guns
Bit of a throwback, but seeing Jonathan look at some of the Bioshock weapons (either 1 or Infinite) would be interesting to see. I'm sure the "modifications" on the original Bioshock weapons would cause him a bit of confusion
"Now this is a beast its extremely heavy" he says as he lifts MG42 with ease.
Is the nagant really that correct? The hammer seems to cycle after the shot is done like it's a slide in the automatic pistol.
The team 17 need asap change tank damage, The tank can not have life, where crew can only die if the tank is destroyed, or even be running behind the tank to give panzerfaust shot in the rear of the tank
they should make translucent apertures to sort of mimick what you'd see with both eyes
One arguable inaccuracy in the game’s depiction of the Luger that Jonathon doesn’t mention is the slowness of the toggle lock mechanism animation as it fires.
In reality that mechanism is much faster being practically a momentary flash to the human eye as it recycles with every fired round. 🙂
holding the mg3 /42 on the bipod like that is still taught today
So the STG isn't in this video, but in case Johnathan watches or anyone else cares, we can all get our own emotional support STGs soon enough. PSA is working with HMG to get their STG44 copies produced, hopefully everything goes well.
PSA has repeatedly failed to deliver announced products and the StG reproduction has an even more troubled development history
@@TheSundayShooter well then you cant be disappointed, so theres no issue.
I think I've seen some footage by mercenaries in the kongo where a madlad actually wielded a browning machine gun like it is depicted in the videogame.
G43, SVT-40: Given the severe resource shortages, how often would soldiers actually be issued spare magazines? Would they use stripper clips instead?
Luger: How often would Germans actually carry a spare magazine? What about non-officers?
Browning 1919a6: How would a single soldier actually shoot this thing if the ammo box is not attached to the gun? Loose belt or something?
Do Red Orchestra 2
5:15 he talks about the brass deflector on the real gun while you showing the charginghandle in the game footage.
It must be a treat to be one of the only Brits that gets to hold and play with real deal firearms. Come to the US we'd love to have ya Jon!
Aside from handguns, there really aren't that many restrictions on firearms in the UK. Plenty of gunshops and ranges near where I live. Most people are able to own as many shotguns as they'd want to.
I think coverage of the stalker series and including the anomaly gamma mod with be a wonderful buildup to stalker 2. I specifically wanna see Jonathan mull over the maintenance system in gamma and ammunition variety in the series
Cool, didn't know the FG42's handle doubles as a bipod. @devs include it in the game pls 🙏.
I'm kinda disappointed that Jonathan didn't mention how the Rockets for the M1 Bazooka had a Copper Wire near the Tail end of the Rocket where after you load the Rocket into the Bazooka, there is a Small Stud or Pin where you wrap the Copper Wire around since the M1 Bazooka what a lot of people don't know is "Electrical" Fired and that large Wooden Shoulder Stock is actually where the Battery is located.
When the Germans Reversed Engineer the M1 Bazooka that eventually led to the Panzerschreck, they decided to use a sort of "Punch Generator" or basically a Dynamo that spins when you pull the Trigger in order to create an Electrical Current enough to Fire the Rocket of the Panzerschreck, eliminating the need of a Large Battery.
The weapons of "Post Scriptum" are more realistic, as is the game overall.
Because it covers early - late war, and a few less ubiquitous campaigns, it features a lot of arms that aren't WW2 fps standard fare; MAS-38, LG-40, Lewis gun, Vickers K, MAS Mle 1873, PA 1935a, MAS-38, MP34(o), Lebel's, Berthier's, Panzerbuchse 39, ZB-26, FM24/29, Chauchat Mle 1915, PIAT's, Gammons, etc.
The sound design and weapon handling are decidedly better, giving more presence, percussion, and authenticity to pulling the trigger. Hope you'd consider reviewing that.
the FG42 it's just genius
It would be cool to see a video on the weapons of Enlisted. A F2P WWII FPS. And Verdun a WWI FPS.