It's totally crazy, but kind of a moot point as no one builds strategies around popping two or three support ultimates to clutch out a fight. But team-wide 80% damage amp with the Djembe and Valkyrie is terrifying.
Doomfist is so powerful against deathballs, especially goats, due to how fast he charges his shields effectively making him as healthy as zarya with all the damage he does
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A very underwhelming event, no dev update, bad communication about OWL cosmetics. There is only one reason this could have happened... Jeff has been kidnaped!!!!!!!!
Upcoming Wednesday the 22nd of August, at Gamescon in Cologne, Blizz had a scheduled ''Overwatch content reveal'' on their app. Soon after, the information in the app was changed to something more general. Considering last year we also had stuff at Gamescon, combined with this little messup it looks promising.
More heroes to make the life of tanks more miserable , especially Junkrat with his skilled plays. Pros and semi pros are already saying Doom in comp is very good , maybe too good. Go figue out
Tank is waaaaaay more fun than DPS, thats for sure. Seriously, why do people not play tank when Rein by himself is more fun than most of the DPS characters? Doesn't matter what comp your running.
I'm actually thrilled about this. These 2 are my favorite dps to play, and a good ass counter pick against GOATS, which I'll take anyday. Hope this strategy becomes more popular.
I'm pretty sure damage boost and supercharger do stack, actually. It's damage reduction that caps at 50, not damage boosting abilities. Good video though, it's great to see Doomfist in the meta.
Yes I thought that too, I think I've read that on the wiki too. If they did not ninja "fixed" that this should still be the same. Dmg reduction is capped, dmg boost not.
They do stack additively and you would get 80% damage boost. You can get up to 130% * 30% discord orb damage boost from Damage Beam, Nano-boost, Supercharger and Discord Orb
Ok? Snicklezed yeah... Its why I don't tank especially when I have to solo tank. I'll play a healer instead cause I'm not solo tanking a doomfist and a reaper or doomfist junkrat
They have too many heroes to rework before they get down the list to reaper. Right now they're doing Torbjorn Next is Bastion And who knows whats after that.
I like the ana idea but then the thing is with zen and mercy, the dive comp only needs to worry about one immobile healer not two. Having the ana means the main healer and off healer is in constant threat of being charged, denied of value, or take too long to re position quick enough (keep in mind ana is pretty slow Freedo). Also as Freedo mentioned, with all the barriers the GOAT comp has it is really difficult to find an angle to heal or land abilities.
the main tanks need more CC ability. In most games, the poster boy tanks are beefy and throw their weight around with a lot of stuns,, knock backs, etc. If they gave rein an extra CC move, he'd be a strong pick again. Maybe they should have given Brig's shield bash to Rein instead.
Your Overwatch nope, Resistance is capped at 50% and damage amp has no cap. You can get 130% increase from stacking them all, and then, you can toss discord for a further 30% increase. The math looks like this: [X*(N+M+S)]*D=Y X is base damage N is Nanaboost M is Mercy amp S is Supercharger (BTW it's a djembe, not a bongo) D is Discord Orb Y is final damage This means someone using a base damage of 100, will be capable of dealing 299 points of damage, assuming all of the above is applied.
YAYYYYY It's like us tank mains aren't getting countered enough by Blizzard. Oh let me just buff all the anti tank dps while nerfing all the tanks. Thanks JEFF
I’m glad doomfist is seeing some more pro play but at the same time there’s now a lot of people calling him op when he’s not Edit: if you’re curious tanks that are effective against doom are hog ( because doomfist is an easy hook target) orisa (because of halt and fortify) and zarya because of her bubbles
The way I see it, you counter Goats, (RIP) just like you countered Rein, Zarya, Hanzo, Brig with dive. Not to say that you necessarily want dive characters, you simply have to out position the goats - and 90% of that is high ground. If you can get 2 characters onto highgrounds that require different access points, (or if lacking high ground, at enough range that the enemy has to commit speed boost to get to you) then you can always have at least one character raining in uncontested OR you force the Goats team to split up: the main party going after one and the D.va, (the only real mobility character aside from Lucio who can't leave Rein Zarya Brig) going after the other alone. An uncontested junkrat spamming into the Goats means that they will be taking a ton of damage and losing bubble, shield and defense matrix rather quickly. Also if there's not enough high ground something like a pharah is always great against Goats.
The doomfist genji comp with Lucio Brigitte, zarya, and Winston is a crazy counter goats bc it revolves around killing D. Va and going through defense matrix.
Doge Genji needs to go to enemy team to do shit He’s not like mccree or hanzo who can kill from range Brig thrashes genji the moment he tries to go in..genji get his ass saved thanks to doomfist..there’s a reason after introduction of brigitte genji became a throw pick..Genji can’t do shit to brig if the brig is actually decent..He can’t dash coz he will get stunned Can’t deflect brig and his double jump don’t help him either..Pro plays are different..I guess you are a salty genji and tracer main Brig thrashes thrm both if the players playing them are of both equal skill
The Undertaker It isn't your job as tracer or genji to duel Brigitte, you are meant to kill the enemy DPS before they peel to supports. If you duel Brigitte with tracer or genji you're probably gold. Positioning is more important in playing them now because of her and doomfist is meant to create space and bully Brigitte. That's why the comp works, because he bullies Brigitte and the other supports because all of them are AOE
That's not how the comp works, there's 2 win conditions against goats, you either bring A LOT of damage, like triple dps to fight the healing which is what goats wants for their ult charge, or you bring assassination power on supports, mainly lucio and Moira/Zen/Ana and mop up the tanks. Doomfist is an assassin that can 1 hit supports through healing like the Widowmaker Variant on often seen on Lunar Colony. Junkrat is perfect pick vs a goat comp because his rip-tire can assassinate supports, but his grenades can also fulfill "out-damage" the healing condition. The orisa variation should be played with triple dps like S76,Hanzo,Junkrat with most greedy damage to win the fight with bongo, but you won't be able to touch objective so you'll eventually lose objective. The winston/hammond variation can touch the point repetitively to stall point, but those tanks will do almost no damage against triple support aoe healing.
Ever since quad tank became a big thing I’ve been saying reaper is terrible against it in my matches in high master console (which usually means playing with diamonds) and no one listened, thank god a big creator is saying it finally
I find it interesting that you think that they haven't tested Ana in these comps. There are times that they have ran Ana in those comps. The problem is that ana shots and nades can be ez negated by d matrix and z bubbles. Mercy provide damg boost and her ult is another defensive ult that they stagger with zen ult. Ana when is dove by dva and/ or lucio she is basically useless especially when she has 0 mobility. Mercy has mobility making her a better choice in more ways than Ana.
my six stack (diamond to low masters) has been wrecking on triple dive doomfist ana (mercy/zen) with all the divetanks on the supports, they die instantly, and with all the extra hp from the tanks pulling everyone to them, doomfist hard carries the who time.
I’m just a humble casual but why isn’t road hog used more? When I play him he seems to be decent at dealing with other tanks and can actually stay in a fight unlike reaper.
His entire effectiveness relies on his hook, and he's a huge liability being an immobile tank without a barrier- he feeds ult charge. You have to be marginally better at hog to be as effective as other tanks. And on top of that, tanks in general are in a poor state because of the Doom/Sombra changes
They are changing wrecking ball's main icon, the one u see in the hero select screen when u get in a match, if u go to the overwatch website and look at the heroes, the wrecking ball icon is way different than the one in-game.. Just wanted to inform that, I never liked that Hammond's old hero select icon anyways.. Good change. The new one just looks better, with a side pose he just looks way better than the boring front pose and fat cheeks.
Seriously what hell. I need every win I can get when the matchmaker is always working against me. And then I’m in a game where I would clearly win and it’s cancelled. Then I go to the next game and we get rolled
3 Tanks and 3 Supports usually featuring Reinhardt D.va Zarya Lucio Moira Brigette With some variations based off the Contenders trials team 'goats' that one tricked this composition
yea. it kinda brings up the qeustion of "wtf is the point of reaper if he can't kill tanks because they can just bully him because of his health pool. dva still just wrecks him when thats totally counter-intuitive... the only time reaper has been anything other than UP is the toilet bowl meta which got nerfed out of existence.. either his regen needs to be stronger or they need to actually give him a usefull ability in place of shadow step. that or a spread fall off reduction so he can hurt things at longer ranges. litteraly any reason to play him over sombra or DF who just do CQC better.
reaper is fine, if you know how to play him, he can harass tanks and supports for free and then wraith out if you know how to play him, you can climb the ladder easily with how disorganized comp usually is.
no reaper definitely can't "harass tanks an supports for free" tanks simply do their job against reaper and eat his damage an most supports in overwatch have ways of getting out of his tiny little threat zone. ana has sleep mercy just runs away with gaurdian angel lucio boops you away or runs away with speed aura moira just fades an then starts kiting you brig hard counters you. the only support reaper threatens is zen but a good zen can still just womp you with his charge balls or headshot you from outside your range. bottom line if you want to harass the backline "for free" pick tracer. she gets tons more value from matchmaking's disorganization. going back to tanks most of the tanks released now laugh at reaper. dva hard counters him despite him supposedly being the tank buster. winston can barrier dance you to death even if you supposedly "hard counter him". also hog is like reaper but better in every way. also he can delete you with hook. so yay. I suppose the main problem with reaper is that wraith is just to scarce. you have to use it to get in. but then with no exit strategy you end up dying because you overextended. so then you try an get in without it an risk dying or having to wraith anyway to escape because you got caught. or some people like to dodge key abilities with it during the mid fight but if you use it like that you should probably just play tracer because she can dodge 3 abilities for free. honestly tracer is just better than reaper in general. in almost any situation where you play reaper you could just use tracer an do much better.
As a reinhardt main, what you wanna do is go to the spawn room, press “H” and pick someone else. (In all seriousness I don’t actually have any great tips you can’t find easily elsewhere- I don’t play at a high enough level hahaha. But tanks are just generally kinda hurting right now- if you decide you still want to play tanks though, Godspeed! We can always use more in our rapidly dwindling ranks.)
I feel like right now in this meta its not that Mercy is bad its just that all of the other healers are better so why pick mercy? Except for exceptions like pharmercy
When there is other characters that do a characters only job a lot better and with lower risks, u know for sure that this character is shiet and defenitly needs buffs
Enjoyed the vid. Really excited that doom is coming into the meta, especially in the pro scene. I'm a doom main myself and get a lot of flack for it. Looking forward to a new perspective on doom. Speaking of which, WHERES THE DOOM GUIDE!? I'll be waiting for it. that.
But what about when you don’t have mei ult, also getting a huge blizzard ain’t that easy, sounds like something that seems to work on paper but not in practice
I am testing with this on a soon to come open season team and this only going against goats. Goats is a close range comp that needs space to use Mei in itself denies space preventing goats from being effective using ice wall even if Mei doesn't get a huge blizzard it still denies goats space to be effective
how does mei deny space from goats without his ult? Maybe walling off targets in a choke but thats not really denying space. Goats doesnt give a shit about your presence they will just run you over.
In the comp junk denies enough space just himself to allow Mei to just wall and spam with damage boost through wherever goats is trying to push. Btw I have tried this in scrims it actually works
"Hammond most burst damage of any tank" ok does Hammond have a 300 damage hit that I don't know about ? The most burst I see is 100 dmg for landing on an enemy with pile driver.
Maybe they played Mercy over Ana cause ana is such a hard goats counter and they mostly wanna test doom and junk, and not go for the easy anti nade solution
My main heroes are McCree, Widow, Ana and Zarya Trust me, It hasn’t been fun lately at all, specially with doom killing you from nowhere or Landing in mindlessly junkrat spam
Here's why they're not running on Ana again the tanky comp, your healing and a lot of anything you do with your kit is completely denied by all the shields and the Matrix. You'd think that'd be obvious to your overwatch but they clearly dont play ana
Doomfist and Sombra are honestly just soooo much better at shitting on tanks. I say this begrudgingly as a Rein/Winston main. I'm not afraid of a Reaper. However Sombra simply existing turns all of my mains into throw picks
CORRECTION: Damage amp all stacks, there is only a cap on damage resist eg Nano resist + Orisa fortify caps out at 50%, but damage amps all stack. -F
It's totally crazy, but kind of a moot point as no one builds strategies around popping two or three support ultimates to clutch out a fight. But team-wide 80% damage amp with the Djembe and Valkyrie is terrifying.
Good thing you corrected this.
Well then a rocket punch is now deadlier than d ever and scarier than ever.
Was just about to post this video to clarify. But still watch it cuz it's interesting th-cam.com/video/CvNhgSm_cFY/w-d-xo.html
Doomfist is so powerful against deathballs, especially goats, due to how fast he charges his shields effectively making him as healthy as zarya with all the damage he does
Can we take a sec to pay our respects to all the rein mains out there who deal with all this cc
Ac3_Train3r_Blak3 your sympathy is appreciated. One day... one day they’ll finish the Rein fixes...
Ac3_Train3r_Blak3 Your sympathy is much appreciated, between cc and Hanzo/Widow, Rein is rough to play this season.
Second over, time to kill more reins.
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Thanks for the prayers
I like how doomfist is slowly coming into a meta and not becoming a throw pick :)
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Remember tracer and genji same here and then ppl will cry how op he is...
A very underwhelming event, no dev update, bad communication about OWL cosmetics. There is only one reason this could have happened... Jeff has been kidnaped!!!!!!!!
Upcoming Wednesday the 22nd of August, at Gamescon in Cologne, Blizz had a scheduled ''Overwatch content reveal'' on their app.
Soon after, the information in the app was changed to something more general.
Considering last year we also had stuff at Gamescon, combined with this little messup it looks promising.
Reminds me of Revenge of the Sith
Well actually, the reason he amongst other are absent from Gamescon this is, is due to them attending a Korean OW Event.
*GOATS* : _Moira, Lucio, Brig, Reinhardt, Zarya, DVA._
Now stop asking
Thanks
DOOM & BOOM COMBO!
I couldn't agree more. Although a guide is almost required at this point if doom is this strong
The DOOMBOOM sounds better but YEAH.
They better not miss and oh boy the king has been missed tons.
Might have to sub because of that pun
and please BLIZZARD korea dont disconnect the match becuse Korea team its losing :P
More heroes to make the life of tanks more miserable , especially Junkrat with his skilled plays. Pros and semi pros are already saying Doom in comp is very good , maybe too good. Go figue out
Why you complaining about tanks when goats comp is popular right now?
Because if you're not playing Goats then playing tank is super annoying. Especially if the enemy is running Goats.
Tank is waaaaaay more fun than DPS, thats for sure. Seriously, why do people not play tank when Rein by himself is more fun than most of the DPS characters? Doesn't matter what comp your running.
I'm actually thrilled about this. These 2 are my favorite dps to play, and a good ass counter pick against GOATS, which I'll take anyday. Hope this strategy becomes more popular.
I'm pretty sure damage boost and supercharger do stack, actually. It's damage reduction that caps at 50, not damage boosting abilities. Good video though, it's great to see Doomfist in the meta.
Yes I thought that too, I think I've read that on the wiki too. If they did not ninja "fixed" that this should still be the same. Dmg reduction is capped, dmg boost not.
They do stack additively and you would get 80% damage boost. You can get up to 130% * 30% discord orb damage boost from Damage Beam, Nano-boost, Supercharger and Discord Orb
Yay more heroes to make to most unfun role in the entire game become almost unplayable by having them die in 3 seconds
Ok? Snicklezed yeah... Its why I don't tank especially when I have to solo tank. I'll play a healer instead cause I'm not solo tanking a doomfist and a reaper or doomfist junkrat
*Put sure hands up for Blizzard's balnce team!* Only dps one tricks still salty from the triple tank meta claps.
Tank is only boring when your bad at it
I can’t even tell what role you’re referring to. This is the best mega Overwatch has ever been in!
play brigette
NO, TAKE IT DOWN! TANKS MAINS UNITE
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Marcus Lara nah, tanks suck
There will be doom and gloom as things go boom
...in dexter’s lab
You know a reaper rework would be really cool.
jesse meeks Hes really good right now, teleport just needs a buff
They have too many heroes to rework before they get down the list to reaper.
Right now they're doing Torbjorn
Next is Bastion
And who knows whats after that.
Rip me and my fellow tank mains
Sadness Lol I hate playing rein and feeling like I have tracer health. Rip us
this comp counters tank heavy comps, not tanks, if you have dps youre fine, and winston dva hammond and hog are not countered by this at all
I like the ana idea but then the thing is with zen and mercy, the dive comp only needs to worry about one immobile healer not two. Having the ana means the main healer and off healer is in constant threat of being charged, denied of value, or take too long to re position quick enough (keep in mind ana is pretty slow Freedo). Also as Freedo mentioned, with all the barriers the GOAT comp has it is really difficult to find an angle to heal or land abilities.
Why are we making playing main tank worse and worse? A ton of the dps and healers got huge buffs making main tanks even worse than they were already
the main tanks need more CC ability. In most games, the poster boy tanks are beefy and throw their weight around with a lot of stuns,, knock backs, etc. If they gave rein an extra CC move, he'd be a strong pick again. Maybe they should have given Brig's shield bash to Rein instead.
Jayne done a video showing CC against goats, using Mei, DF, Hammond etc and it won majority of the time. It was insane
Just wanted to say thanks for all these vids. Keep me posted on the current meta. Sooo.... thanks :)
I thought that mercy damge boost stacked with supercharger?
I'm pretty sure damage amp output is capped @ 50% ... or maybe that's just resistance. If they do stack then holy moley lol. -F
Your Overwatch nope, Resistance is capped at 50% and damage amp has no cap. You can get 130% increase from stacking them all, and then, you can toss discord for a further 30% increase.
The math looks like this: [X*(N+M+S)]*D=Y
X is base damage
N is Nanaboost
M is Mercy amp
S is Supercharger (BTW it's a djembe, not a bongo)
D is Discord Orb
Y is final damage
This means someone using a base damage of 100, will be capable of dealing 299 points of damage, assuming all of the above is applied.
Nop they cap it at 70% in Season 4 because Ana+bongo+mercy was way too strong at the Orissa release.
Ppl why used to nano boost a full charge zarya then bongo and mercy boost her, was Nerfed in 2 days...
Your Overwatch There is no damage boost cap ,but there is a damage resistance cap at 50%
YAYYYYY It's like us tank mains aren't getting countered enough by Blizzard. Oh let me just buff all the anti tank dps while nerfing all the tanks. Thanks JEFF
no ryujehong no ana.
that's the golden rule.
I’m glad doomfist is seeing some more pro play but at the same time there’s now a lot of people calling him op when he’s not
Edit: if you’re curious tanks that are effective against doom are hog ( because doomfist is an easy hook target) orisa (because of halt and fortify) and zarya because of her bubbles
The way I see it, you counter Goats, (RIP) just like you countered Rein, Zarya, Hanzo, Brig with dive. Not to say that you necessarily want dive characters, you simply have to out position the goats - and 90% of that is high ground. If you can get 2 characters onto highgrounds that require different access points, (or if lacking high ground, at enough range that the enemy has to commit speed boost to get to you) then you can always have at least one character raining in uncontested OR you force the Goats team to split up: the main party going after one and the D.va, (the only real mobility character aside from Lucio who can't leave Rein Zarya Brig) going after the other alone. An uncontested junkrat spamming into the Goats means that they will be taking a ton of damage and losing bubble, shield and defense matrix rather quickly. Also if there's not enough high ground something like a pharah is always great against Goats.
The doomfist genji comp with Lucio Brigitte, zarya, and Winston is a crazy counter goats bc it revolves around killing D. Va and going through defense matrix.
Doge no one will run genji if enemy has an brig
Coz brig deletes him entirely and the match becomes 5v6
The Undertaker if you watch Korean contenders they have doomfist to deny any space Brigitte tried to create so genji can go in and kill other heroes.
The Undertaker also, if you're getting "deleted" by brig on genji or tracer it shows you aren't good with them.
Doge Genji needs to go to enemy team to do shit
He’s not like mccree or hanzo who can kill from range
Brig thrashes genji the moment he tries to go in..genji get his ass saved thanks to doomfist..there’s a reason after introduction of brigitte genji became a throw pick..Genji can’t do shit to brig if the brig is actually decent..He can’t dash coz he will get stunned
Can’t deflect brig and his double jump don’t help him either..Pro plays are different..I guess you are a salty genji and tracer main
Brig thrashes thrm both if the players playing them are of both equal skill
The Undertaker It isn't your job as tracer or genji to duel Brigitte, you are meant to kill the enemy DPS before they peel to supports. If you duel Brigitte with tracer or genji you're probably gold. Positioning is more important in playing them now because of her and doomfist is meant to create space and bully Brigitte. That's why the comp works, because he bullies Brigitte and the other supports because all of them are AOE
That's not how the comp works, there's 2 win conditions against goats, you either bring A LOT of damage, like triple dps to fight the healing which is what goats wants for their ult charge, or you bring assassination power on supports, mainly lucio and Moira/Zen/Ana and mop up the tanks. Doomfist is an assassin that can 1 hit supports through healing like the Widowmaker Variant on often seen on Lunar Colony. Junkrat is perfect pick vs a goat comp because his rip-tire can assassinate supports, but his grenades can also fulfill "out-damage" the healing condition.
The orisa variation should be played with triple dps like S76,Hanzo,Junkrat with most greedy damage to win the fight with bongo, but you won't be able to touch objective so you'll eventually lose objective. The winston/hammond variation can touch the point repetitively to stall point, but those tanks will do almost no damage against triple support aoe healing.
I'm pretty sure mercy dam amp and bongo stack as well as ana nanoboost
Ever since quad tank became a big thing I’ve been saying reaper is terrible against it in my matches in high master console (which usually means playing with diamonds) and no one listened, thank god a big creator is saying it finally
Tanks are hard to burst down with a good positioned death blossom, before they CC the Reaper.
Wouldn’t this be the “Zoom, Boom, Doom” combo (Hammond being the Zoom)
I find it interesting that you think that they haven't tested Ana in these comps. There are times that they have ran Ana in those comps. The problem is that ana shots and nades can be ez negated by d matrix and z bubbles. Mercy provide damg boost and her ult is another defensive ult that they stagger with zen ult. Ana when is dove by dva and/ or lucio she is basically useless especially when she has 0 mobility. Mercy has mobility making her a better choice in more ways than Ana.
This was a great break down of the scrim. My only complaint is that you said doom can stun lock.
complaining about a fact? Doom can stun lock, there is no 2 ways about that
Hammond has the most burst damage of any tank? Not as much as hog.
"He [Ark] may not have the god tier mechanics of a player like Jonak, but who does?"
Ryujehong that's who
Rein is so buggy, that you counter yourself by picking him. (Still no shatter rework)
As if Roadhog’s life wasn’t hard enough already
tiggle5485 I don't think he's really talking about Hog unless the enemy team is running quad tank, goats is mainly Dva, Zarya and Rein.
Damage amp stacks with bongo and they both stack with Nanaboost for a theoretical 130% damage amp.
That name might replace "Space Jam" as my favorite synergy name.
Hell at this point make everyone a DPS with no heals. The overwatch team needs to get it together.
Doom and Boom!
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SMMMMMMOOOOOOOOTTTTHHHH there fellas
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my six stack (diamond to low masters) has been wrecking on triple dive doomfist ana (mercy/zen) with all the divetanks on the supports, they die instantly, and with all the extra hp from the tanks pulling everyone to them, doomfist hard carries the who time.
Other team ran this against mine earlier. Switched to Pharah.
*Dust & Bust*
i main both rat and pharah hah. But yeah I just suck at aiming with hitscans. Tragic asf
Quang Tuấn Anh Trương Rats fun, id switch between him and pharah too in season 7&8. I mostly play the 76 call of duty life tho
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Wait wait....what is goats comp?
I’m just a humble casual but why isn’t road hog used more? When I play him he seems to be decent at dealing with other tanks and can actually stay in a fight unlike reaper.
His entire effectiveness relies on his hook, and he's a huge liability being an immobile tank without a barrier- he feeds ult charge. You have to be marginally better at hog to be as effective as other tanks. And on top of that, tanks in general are in a poor state because of the Doom/Sombra changes
So couldn't we switch junk or doom for pharah?
Dva (a very important core factor of goats) is just way too good at nullifying pharah
bongo, mercy boost and nano all stack, ya dang goon
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They are changing wrecking ball's main icon, the one u see in the hero select screen when u get in a match, if u go to the overwatch website and look at the heroes, the wrecking ball icon is way different than the one in-game.. Just wanted to inform that, I never liked that Hammond's old hero select icon anyways.. Good change. The new one just looks better, with a side pose he just looks way better than the boring front pose and fat cheeks.
Not more cancer. Doom and junk are in the top most annoying heroes rn
Vangaurd Yeah but they are really important to counter the current meta
Vangaurd They have solid place in the meta to counter goats which is annoying
Dont forget Brigitte
Vangaurd play pharmercy, mcree. Ez clap destruction.
Naoto fuck that this META has actual skill heroes, now we have all of these cheese heroes. I thought we would let skull shine but idk
Mercy damage boost an orisa Bongo add up and Stack, it equals 80% more damage
I could have sworn damage amp did stack?
Seriously what hell. I need every win I can get when the matchmaker is always working against me. And then I’m in a game where I would clearly win and it’s cancelled. Then I go to the next game and we get rolled
Damage amps do stack!
tanks are already in a very bad place. ever since they started adding more characters the game became more and more broken
No one knows this but the real reason it’s called goats is because it eats up all the trash the opposing team throws at it
Doesn't dmg amp stack infinitely?
What’s Goats comp?
Reid Murray he said in the video
3 Tanks and 3 Supports usually featuring
Reinhardt
D.va
Zarya
Lucio
Moira
Brigette
With some variations based off the Contenders trials team 'goats' that one tricked this composition
reaper needs a buff. his spread is to damn large. he can't actually do damage when it counts
Ironically as a Winston main, I do not fear Reaper. But Sombra/Doom makes me run to spawn
yea. it kinda brings up the qeustion of "wtf is the point of reaper if he can't kill tanks because they can just bully him because of his health pool. dva still just wrecks him when thats totally counter-intuitive... the only time reaper has been anything other than UP is the toilet bowl meta which got nerfed out of existence.. either his regen needs to be stronger or they need to actually give him a usefull ability in place of shadow step. that or a spread fall off reduction so he can hurt things at longer ranges. litteraly any reason to play him over sombra or DF who just do CQC better.
reaper is fine, if you know how to play him, he can harass tanks and supports for free and then wraith out if you know how to play him, you can climb the ladder easily with how disorganized comp usually is.
no reaper definitely can't "harass tanks an supports for free" tanks simply do their job against reaper and eat his damage an most supports in overwatch have ways of getting out of his tiny little threat zone. ana has sleep mercy just runs away with gaurdian angel lucio boops you away or runs away with speed aura moira just fades an then starts kiting you brig hard counters you. the only support reaper threatens is zen but a good zen can still just womp you with his charge balls or headshot you from outside your range. bottom line if you want to harass the backline "for free" pick tracer. she gets tons more value from matchmaking's disorganization. going back to tanks most of the tanks released now laugh at reaper. dva hard counters him despite him supposedly being the tank buster. winston can barrier dance you to death even if you supposedly "hard counter him". also hog is like reaper but better in every way. also he can delete you with hook. so yay. I suppose the main problem with reaper is that wraith is just to scarce. you have to use it to get in. but then with no exit strategy you end up dying because you overextended. so then you try an get in without it an risk dying or having to wraith anyway to escape because you got caught. or some people like to dodge key abilities with it during the mid fight but if you use it like that you should probably just play tracer because she can dodge 3 abilities for free. honestly tracer is just better than reaper in general. in almost any situation where you play reaper you could just use tracer an do much better.
Is there a name for someone that mains every tank and every healer because that's me
Its called a Saint. Blessings be upon you
To counter goats I was thinking of ana zen brig rien pharah/junk/hanzo doomfist and mei
Does anyone know where I can watch the Overwatch World Cup?
Dylan flores on twitch at playoverwatch
months ago it was ryujehong being best ana, now you're going to sit here and tell us that jjonak is. wishy washy
Any pro tips for playing tank?
Daniel Kulik Rein player?
As a reinhardt main, what you wanna do is go to the spawn room, press “H” and pick someone else. (In all seriousness I don’t actually have any great tips you can’t find easily elsewhere- I don’t play at a high enough level hahaha. But tanks are just generally kinda hurting right now- if you decide you still want to play tanks though, Godspeed! We can always use more in our rapidly dwindling ranks.)
If you are Brigitte, do not be shy to mace people in the face, instead of hiding behind that shield. That passive healing can mean all the difference.
I feel like right now in this meta its not that Mercy is bad its just that all of the other healers are better so why pick mercy? Except for exceptions like pharmercy
Mercy excels with teams that have consistent long range fire power. Teams that have snipers, Soldier, Mccree, Orisa. Stuff like that
Wait... Is South Korea the NYXL?
South Korea is basically the entire OWL.
Should’ve called the channel yourverwatch
I feel that the dps hero's should run shield destroyers (I know junk is one)
When there is other characters that do a characters only job a lot better and with lower risks, u know for sure that this character is shiet and defenitly needs buffs
"Ark is a good Ana. Maybe not as good as Jjonak but who is?"
Jehong's Ana is still better.
Change my mind
But damage boost does stack. You can nano, supercharger and Mercy boost. They all stack.
matt wilson Yeah I thought the same.
And discord. With all 4 you can get 415 damage with a McCree headshot.
Is over watch a good game. Should I get it
Sigh....when is my boy Reaper going to be meta again?
Ok, but why is it called GOATS comp?
krieginphern Jacobson he literally says in the video that the team that used it was caled Goats
Itz Me Itz Me Thx but why goats in particular?
Dakota Diamond I am, i don't get why they call the comp goats
krieginphern Jacobson DUMB Nigga
Lol
Enjoyed the vid. Really excited that doom is coming into the meta, especially in the pro scene. I'm a doom main myself and get a lot of flack for it. Looking forward to a new perspective on doom. Speaking of which, WHERES THE DOOM GUIDE!? I'll be waiting for it. that.
Mei instead of doomfist mercy instead of Ana damage boost Mei for blizzard, blizzard goats junk shoots into blizzard Ez riptire next fight wipe
But what about when you don’t have mei ult, also getting a huge blizzard ain’t that easy, sounds like something that seems to work on paper but not in practice
I am testing with this on a soon to come open season team and this only going against goats. Goats is a close range comp that needs space to use Mei in itself denies space preventing goats from being effective using ice wall even if Mei doesn't get a huge blizzard it still denies goats space to be effective
how does mei deny space from goats without his ult? Maybe walling off targets in a choke but thats not really denying space. Goats doesnt give a shit about your presence they will just run you over.
In the comp junk denies enough space just himself to allow Mei to just wall and spam with damage boost through wherever goats is trying to push. Btw I have tried this in scrims it actually works
Easily countered by orisa, soldier, sombra, D.va, ana, lucio. But people just don't seem to understand that.
Also mcree and pharah.
The Loon yup. I dare a doomfist to dive me when I'm ana youre gonna get slept and domed by a widow or hanzo instantly.
When I see a Brigitte I count her as half tank so if their are 2 tanks plus her in reality there are 2 in a half
Coolmusicplaylist ok?
At 2:24 there is a casual "raping away" reference. Please don't do that.
Andrea Davis he says “wrathing away”, not raping
As a tank main-
Delete this.
"Hammond most burst damage of any tank" ok does Hammond have a 300 damage hit that I don't know about ? The most burst I see is 100 dmg for landing on an enemy with pile driver.
I think they're talking about pile driving plus shooting people in the head. He does shoot decently fast.(maybe the fastest?)
Rein charge is basically just a gag ability these days. Only use it to get back from spawn
what is a "skrim"?
Nigel Kucera Scrimmage. I dont know how it works in OW exactly. But in sports, its one team splitting itself to practice. Correct me if im wrong.
Nigel Kucera skrim, is a practice between pro teams, kinda like testing things out vs professional teams instead of just doing it in solo queue.
I believe they call that exhibition in sports.
Kenny Klein nope
Hey Freedo why dont you try to become a coach im sure you would be great at it!
Maybe they played Mercy over Ana cause ana is such a hard goats counter and they mostly wanna test doom and junk, and not go for the easy anti nade solution
Damage amp and Orisa ult DOES stack.
Hey Dudes I wanna make my own overwatch info thing I don't know how to start do I do a youtube channel a blog a website idk help meh
9:20 GO AGANE
My main heroes are McCree, Widow, Ana and Zarya
Trust me, It hasn’t been fun lately at all, specially with doom killing you from nowhere or Landing in mindlessly junkrat spam
You should be countering doom with that McCree homie. I understand the rest lol
Can we call this comp Doom of the Boom? Please?
Literally just run a bunker comp with a bastion junk combo. It's very easy to counter this combo.
Freedo and Eddy killed Liam and Wegal
mercy on junk to make his ultimate charge faster?
So Team South Korea is just the NYXL?
Plus Carpe?
Yeah basically featuring carpe and fate
DOOMFIST AND JUNKRAT MY BOIS
_RatchetSniper _ literally my 2 mains since launch 😂
Jeremy Mathers same lmao
You all disgust me
imagine making a video telling people to play dps heroes to counter tanks when we need more people out here playing tanks and less playing dps
Stop Hard Countering Tanks
~Sincerely Tank Main
I thought they stole the name goats from the original yugioh format
WE GO AGANE
Can see your soft spot on ana in the entire video.
Here's why they're not running on Ana again the tanky comp, your healing and a lot of anything you do with your kit is completely denied by all the shields and the Matrix. You'd think that'd be obvious to your overwatch but they clearly dont play ana
reaper?
Doomfist and Sombra are honestly just soooo much better at shitting on tanks. I say this begrudgingly as a Rein/Winston main. I'm not afraid of a Reaper. However Sombra simply existing turns all of my mains into throw picks
Barret Wallace yeah lol I said reaper before I watched the vid