Getting to Know the Bears Draft Picks w/ Feldman & Dochterman
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Adam Jahns is joined by The Athletic's own Bruce Feldman and Scott Dochterman to help shed some light on who the Bears really are getting in Rome Odunze, Caleb Williams and the rest of Ryan Poles' haul this year.
0:00 Intro
1:41 Bruce Feldman
27:17 Scott Dochterman
52:03 Closing time - กีฬา
Feldman segment was tough to get through. All the hand wavy doubts about Caleb with NIL, clothes, USC drama that didn't happen, etc. Caleb has been all ball the whole time
Pretty sure Feldman is all Camel unfiltered all the time.
" ITS LIKE" .."ITS LIKE" ..UUGH ANNOYINGLY ANNOYING
Caleb is truly bald and unstoppable and with toothless at his side - it is going to be great
Thanks for the tip. Next segment please.
I heard Caleb might be gay. If Poles is smart he'll find a center with the worst ass in football so nobody's thinking about man booty during the game
Geez, brilliant analysis by Fieldman who says “we just don’t know” about Williams! Whew, the sharp insights and cutting edge evaluations. We won’t know anything until Williams actually plays some professional football games! If that’s your position, then Why make any comments about anyone? Just close up shop until the season starts! You could come to the same conclusions about every draft pick at every position: we just don’t know how it will all play out. Thanks for the tip!
So what I’ve gathered is Feldman don’t know anything about Caleb Williams. Got it 👍
Idk what I’m gonna do with myself until training camp… we are truly in the slow part of the season now.
Sooo Bruce references the Notre Dame game...is he also going to refernce the large amount of crappy games Jayden Daniels played his Junior year at Arizona St. who also happens to play in the Pac 12?
OHHH, nevermind, we only expect perfection every game from Caleb, I forgot, carry on.
It’s not just that Jayden Daniel had a significant amount of his tds vs really bad competition such as army.
@@JJ-zr6fu Definitely. I'm not a Jayden Daniels hater, he is a good QB prospect with electric speed, but certainly seems like he is escaping some of the criticism being hurled at Williams.
it's wild how differently Caleb is graded than all the other QBs. I feel like Bruce is ignoring 2022 in his evaluation of Caleb
@@stephend3459 I don't like feeling that way, because I want to try to look at prospects/players objectively, despite my fandom. Does Caleb have blemishes and things he needs to improve on? Absolutely. To act like the Notre Dame game, literally one game in 2-3 years (Iowa St. Game his freshman year was also rough, I suppose) where he struggled is some Pangaea, while ignoring bad games by other prospects, seems ridiculous and agenda driven.
Feldman has such a bad take on Caleb - glosses over his positive and nitpicks the negatives. Trying to be the 'cool kid' by having a contradictory opinion when the tape says otherwise
Well said. An idiot trying to get attention with his smug little hot takes.
Yeah
No
Yep
He obviously didn't watch the tape. He just regurgitated a couple of narratives.
No more Bruce Feldman please.
Why
@@Sherpkilgorebecause he keeps insinuating negative things about Caleb but never actually says anything, just sounds negative imo.
@@Jaggerjaw99 he's just reporting what's out there and giving an assessment. He even says he'd put his money on caleb to succeed.
@@Sherpkilgorelook guys, I found Feldman's account. You literally said no one ever told you anything negative about Caleb williams. Then proceeded to insinuate that veggie is negative in the negative of the vacancy.
I just made more sense than anything you said.
@@josephpayton7522 what
If this doesn’t work out this time with a QB it will be soul crushing.
Yes it will be people need to relax.let’s what happens on the field First.
@@albertmckennie4282 agreed I am excited but have my reservations cause of the bears track record. Hope this is the end of being the laughingstock of the league.
@@georgecostanza9213 I hope so to Because the media settings this up perfectly for if it Don’t work out well .Williams he will be labeled the biggest busts of all time Because of the hype is so great can’t get around it at this point just hope he the guy.
Feldman was all word salad......sewing doubts without actually saying anything....either take a real stand or shut up
Reading the comments. Don’t need neysayers right now. Catch you the next episode.
We haven’t had this much talent on the Bears since the 80’s. If Williams is the real deal we’re going to be very good for a long time. Poles has already shown he’s playing at a higher level than most at his position and I love the way he’s built this team and his vision for the Bears organization.
Never had this much offensive talent
@@jwaight832013 was pretty good offense but yeah it's nice to see them finally invest on offensive side of ball.
@ 16:55 “nobody says anything negative, but you start de-coding some of the things you get said to you (about Caleb) and you’re like okay, let’s see how this is, or whatever” -Feldman
Then he goes on to not explain anything, just moves off of that. This guy’s a joke.
Stop Judging Caleb for USC being a Hollywood school
Caleb went to Oklahoma for the coach. The coach left and he followed. Had the coach of stayed at Oklahoma he probably stays as well. And nobody is calling him Hollywood at Oklahoma.
Yep. I got the feeling that he was trying to imply Caleb is trying to be Russel Wilson trying to be liked.
Great job solo hosting jahnsy-babe! Not easy to do on your own, you did a great job leading those interviews.
Did Feldman really say “well he’s gonna have to beat Mahomes at some point” lol what
That quote solidified Feldman's tirade to highlight every possible flaw or outcome that could go wrong with Caleb. Seriously obnoxious.
@@The_Shtuff seriously. I’m not a meatball, if you wanna bring up legitimate concerns then put your name to it and say it, don’t just dance around the subject with vague statements like that. It’s so weird. Greg Gabriel vibes.
We have to stop pretending every team in the SEC is so much better than every other team in college football. They have some incredible teams at the top, but cmon
I've been all-in on Caleb since the Bears lost to Browns, and I'm higher on him than ever, but Feldman's concern about Caleb handling ugly performances is technically warranted for all rookies, especially a #1 overall QB.
In college Caleb wasn't obligated to talk to the media twice a week in-season, but now he is. He wears his emotion on his sleeve and that's fine, but in his rookie year, I'm putting the burden on a veteran or 2/Flus/Shane/whomever to let Caleb release all his venting and frustration - behind the scenes. I think all rookies benefit when they are relatively quiet in the media. Go Caleb! Bear Down
Yikes, almost nothing Bruce mentioned was football related. Not the most insightful interview.
The greatest punter in our generation can't wait to see him at work and dominate 💯
I hope I never see him.
No more Feldman first time I fell asleep driving listening to this podcast
Comparing Fieldman’s comments on Odunze and Williams makes no sense and shows his hypocrisy. He says everyone who ever spoke with or had interactions with Odunze raved about him, high character guy. Then, when he gets to Williams, instead of focusing on what people on the team (players and coaches) say about Williams, he talks about random NFL execs or coaches not connected to USC have said about Williams and ONLY cites the negative reviews. Everyone who has worked with Williams in and around football, raves about the kid, his leadership, his work ethic, his smarts, his love of football. Does Williams have some things to clean up in his play as an NFL QB. Sure. But that’s different than assessing the value of the Bears picking him at No1 and assessing his potential. Kinda of BS hit job IMHO
The up and down about Caleb is driving me crazy. Dude trying so hard not to be wrong on his analysis of him so if someone challenges it down the road he can say no this is what I ment it's cringe.
At this point all that matters is how Caleb performs on the field, no one else opinions matter at this point.
Bruce looking for any holes to poke in Caleb 😂
Feldman should listen to Chris Ballard's advice when he's nitpicking this kid based on an "anonymous source qb coach" that had no chance of drafting the kid
I honestly don't know what point Feldman was trying to make by bringing up Caleb's NIL and him staying another year at USC. He just kind of starts points and trails off without explaining why they are negative.
It’s amazing how ALL the teams who needed a QB and half the teams who had one would take him with the #1 pick and there’s all these unnamed sources who point out all his glaring problems with his game more than any other QB!
Why doesn't anyone recognize how Williams came back the second half of the Notre Dame came and played great. His offensive line and defense was greatly out matched, but he figured it out at halftime. In the past 25 years I have never seen a Bears QB do that.
Love dotcherman!!
Feldman knocking Caleb for playing the “weaker pac 12” (Washington went cfpo) and knocking Caleb for his team being worse and having to be the face of the program is pretty ludicrous.
He isn't knocking him. Quit being so sensitive
They don't believe in defense in the PAC 12 though........ It's ok to question things, after all, nothing is in concrete ... At this point, hope and hype are all we got
@@Sherpkilgore stop bolstering online kid he was questioning his ability to lead a pro team for aspect that weren’t football. You come across sensitive needing to defend him babygirl
@odinseye8835 No, everybody here is sensitive. like they need to defend Caleb from honest and valid criticisms. It's pathetic and why sports fans are some of the dumbest people on earth. I get it. we've all been burned by bad QB play, but you guys are just out here wilding.
@@Sherpkilgore yeah you right everybody is sensitive and dumb sports fan but you bud. Please enlighten us Andy Reid or Bill Belechik with y’all your Super Bowl rings and nfl knowledge. Or you can stop pretending you’re that, admit you got sensitive about someone disagreeing with the guest for questioning Caleb’s ability to lead in Chicago because of his poor team in USC.
I don’t mind the critiques. It seems like Feldman was very skeptical about Williams ability to rise to the occasion and to handle the moment, even with a weaker team. I got the impression Caleb bites off more than he can chew and that is a real concern. Jay Cutler was guilty of that. Fingers crossed that isn’t the case with this team.
I agree; Jahnsy looked like he wanted to vomit because Feldman didn't affirm the adulation every talking head in Chicago now has.
@@stevenschneider1892 Bears fans are great but we do have a bad habit of jumping to conclusions. When the team can show consistent growth, a good OC, an actual coaching tree, this QB backs up his talk and they start beating the Packers, then I’ll believe it. There’s also the McCaskey curse that was put on this team. I want it to be over, but Virginia and her idiot sons really did run the credibility of this team into the ground. Again, fingers crossed it’s different this time. There’s a reason everyone has doubts. Caleb is personally my 51st QB I’ve seen in my life. When the McCaskey Bears go 15-50 against GB since 1992, they earn every bit of pessimism and hesitation.
And that was all the media that was doing that not Caleb.Williams you guys in the media talking about what he wears his nails and is pink phone
I believe it was because Odunze practiced with Williams and Bears players is why the Giants and others didnt trade up for him. It wasnt worth the possibilities of him being dissapointed.
Kiran vs Braxton battle for starter and backup is a better swing tackle than Bears have now. Nothing wrong with that!
Feldman seems to have a depressing life
Trade one of next years 2nd's for DE Hendrickson from Cincy?
Optimism is high and rightfully so with this much talent, however, a 2-2 start not 0-4 will keep me off the ledge.
Rome reminds me of alshon jeffery
27:16 is when Debbie Downer leaves
Every Hawkeye fan loves Tory Taylor.
So basically he’s not sure Caleb can be great because he paints his nails…
Not what he said at all
@@Sherpkilgoreno because he didn't say a fuckin thing the whole interview. All word salad with no brain or insight
feldman is dry as hell and why does caleb scare middle aged men so much? it's actually funny now.
I would love to hear what Feldman was saying about stroud last year. Sounds pretty revisionist to me that he knew he was going to be a guy and he’s clearly better than Caleb
This guy must be a Packer fan.
Feldman reminds me of Charles Bukowski, except Feldman rates 9 (on a scale of 10) in mealymouthedness.
Bruce was talking circles and contradicting himself left and right to try and bring Caleb down
Bruce Feldman, certified hater ("More-concern-about-caleb-williams-focuses-attention-on-coaches" article on SI) - Dude flags concerns, then once they're addressed comes up with something new to whine about with Caleb. Get outttta here.
i EXPECT AT LEAST TEN WINS WORSE CASE WORSE CASE 9 WINS. If BELOW THAT I WOULD LIKELY LET THE HEAD COACH GO BUT I WOULD TAKE A LONG LOOK AT THE OFFENSIVE CORDINATOR TO TAKE OVER AS THE HEAD COACH.
THE HOT IS THE ONE THE HEAD COACH IS ON-CAN HE MAKE GOOD DECSIONS DURING CRUNCH TIME AND MANAGE THE CLOCK-THE JURY IS STILL OUT NAND DID THE DEFENSE GET MANY LUCKY WITH SOME TURNOVERS--------THAT IS STREAKY.
what
This was 40 mins of Brice Fieldman talking out of both sides of his mouth. “He could be great, but might not be. He could have personal problems, but might not. The bears might be a good environment for him, but also might not.” Somehow I feel dumber after that segment. Say what you mean and put your name on it, my man.
I liked Scott until he already started talking about losing to the Packers at 41:30 😞
This episode was def a low point for me and it had nothing to do with Hoge's absence. Suggest you screen the guests more thoroughly. These guys were quite frankly pathetic. Feldman - not totally negative, but nit picky and really did not impress. Some examples: No real separation between the top 6 QBs. Really? That's not what the NFL PROFESSIONALS thought. "Any of them could fail", according to this brainiac. Then Dochterman, whoo boy. Iowa punter is as exciting as Carrie wood? REALLY? Then, let's question the end of the Bears' season and whether the defense was good or maybe the opponents weren't very good. O-----K. Next, let's make sure we bring up the Chase Claypool trade. Let's question the coaching staff . . . After all, a mdediocre rookie wide receiver didn't like the OC in seattle last year. STOP IT!!!! Bears fans don't need (or expect) negative energy from Hoge and Johns. Maybe next time you can feature someone who's even more negative - (Kurt Warner). Jeez.
Except Kurt loves Caleb haha
I really thought we’d be done with the vague “I’ve heard some things from anonymous sources…” soundbites that are a staple of lying season now that the draft is complete. Literally everything- EVERYTHING- we’ve heard from people who are willing to put their name on the record- including those no longer connected to him, and who do not benefit in any way by lying to cover something up- speaks to his commitment to the game, the work he puts in, and the things he does for his teammates and the other people around him.
Work ethic? This is the dude that was showing up at the 6am practices after explicitly being told freshmen don’t get to be in those practices.
He wears interesting clothes and had a GQ article? Have you looked at literally every pre-game facility entrance pictures/video that teams put out weekly? The players all treat that as a fashion show. Half the damn league likes to get all dripped out and show it off, but we single this ONE dude out?
I know you can’t control what your guests say, but you can choose whether or not their interviews actually end up being a part of the podcast. This is bottom feeder gossip BS that I’d expect from a podcast with 20 subscribers and 10 views, not Hoge & Jahns.
Scott needs to stick with eating gravy flavored pudding rather than giving football opinions
Even when the dude was saying something “positive” he entered a negative. He just kept droning on and on…I heard the guy RAVE about Caleb with Rich Eisen so why is he on here now being so pessimistic?
It probably felt like Caleb and USC because other than Caleb USC was really not good at all. Look to the draft at how GMs looked at those guys.
We don’t know about Williams… you could say the same thing about EVERY PLAYER DRAFTED EVER 🤣…you call that insightful??? 😅…Let me tell you guys something.. there is a 50% chance a bad weather day tomorrow and a 50% chance a good weather day 😂… i am smart trust me 😅
Ohhhhh he didn’t have any worries about Joe Burrow?? Hmmm I wonder why that is???🤔🤔🤔
Probably because Burrow won the national championship and he had the greatest year any college qb had ever had. Stop
@Sherpkilgore definitely a Feldman burner acct lol
Feldman is a 🤡
Bruce managed to do a 30 minute interview and say NOTHING. Almost impressive to make 0 points or statements with that much yammering. What an utter waste of everyone's time, but especially Jahns should be pissed.
Feldman managed to be worse, much worse, than Hoge. I am flabbergasted.
He had 7th round talent against a NFL type offense. Protect the man he’ll be fine. Never trusted this guy
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Prototype defense darn spellcheck
45:53
Scott Dochterman: "I thought Fields was a good pick. I still do. ... They just didn't have the surroundings. They didn't ALLOW him to succeed."
Me: "I couldn't have said it any better. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿"
He gets rid of the ball fast he can flick it 50 easy so I think he will never get into too much trouble so what the hell are you talking about?🤷🏻♂️🧸⬇️
Feldman doesn't know Caleb personally and he is questioning his character. That is bullshit!
Wow what a fun episode right after the draft.... not
Mark my words… Sheduer Sanders is going to be that dude next year.
Knocks the Big12 by bringing up Mahomes and Mayfield...what a clown
Did this guy just say Caleb isn’t the caliber of last years QBs!!!…. Never bring this guy back on!
Do any of these guys ask if JJ Mccarthy can handle losing or is that just saved for when your a lazy "journalist " and you're going for clicks?
He makes some valid points about Caleb. However, you can tell he's got something weird against him 😂
Today I learned, Bruce Feldman can't be trusted to watch the tape on players he is "analyzing."
Who the f**k is bruce feldman
Better to have no guest than a guest who gives you nothing but bad, old, long since debunked "arguments" that basically amount to character criticim.
Great stuff from Feldman. So funny to read these candy ass fans upset by professional and intelligent skepticism. All his points were valid, and Caleb will hopefully rise to the occasion
Ok burner acct lol
Feldman is a clown
Ryan Poles > Willie Wonka
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