Nice one Matt. Alot of research going into that. Thought Blackburn would come out on top, due also to the fact that their stadium was sold out during their premier league seasons. Are lucky to get 15000 these days. Money is probably tight up there, and now they have sold Brereton Diaz, so cant see them making a push for the Prem this season. Looking forward to your groundhopping vids, even though i will still be watching the cricket lol
Thanks Berlin Dave, was considering ground hopping some cricket and rugby league grounds during the summer but I didn’t know how that would take on the channel so I haven’t. Depending on the train strikes I am hoping to ground hop Stockport v Gills on the first game of the season 👍🏻⚽️
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 now that should be good Matt. The sleeping giant is awakening, but we still need a striker or 2. Whats up with BR always striking mate. CU soon on here and maybe have a chat sometime, once your up and running on the Groundhopper
Fantastic, and very interesting, as a preston fan delighted to see tiny little Blackpool at the bottom with 1point, they are really pub league level as you've just proved.😂
It really is a non starter this it can only be Blackburn Rovers, other fans can spin as many angles as they want but this is the 10th ( i think) most succesful club in English football. No debate to be had but the rest can jostle for position.
I think we get unfairly dismissed as a small club (clarets) but can't really argue this to be honest although as someone has said the attendances seemed skewed so as to include our fallow period decent criteria other than that round to be fair
Burnley fans showing how bitter they are they can’t grasp that Blackburn are a bigger club as the stats clearly show always in our shadow 💙🤍 always drag there knuckles when it’s proven 😂 😂
Pants !!!! You cannot at one moment select of all time and then restrict to 20 - 30 years. You have to be consistent otherwise you can engineer the winner.
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 I'm not questioning your sources. I'm questioning your applied logic. Your findings should be based upon a definitive timeframe across the board and not 'of all time' in part and over the last 20 to 30 years on others. I could engineer Burnley to be the bigger club if the period was restricted to the last 10 years in part.
Of course the mighty Blue & Whites win. Hats off to the clarets though for having more fingers on each hand…..and keeping it in the family. I guess the owners like the latter.
There is simply not even a discussion, Blackburn win in every single department by a country mile. All the others can discuss the other positions but there will only ever be one top dog and that’s the one with the Premier League trophy and 10 top ten Premier League finishes under it’s belt. Only 8 other clubs in England have won more trophies than the blue and whites, and certainly none of these other 3 clubs are in that 8.
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 He doesn't trust the Blackburn ones, they had the shut half there stadium for multiple seasons because they couldn't sell tickets. This year where they've been in the play off spots almost all season they had an average of 50% capacity
Looking through the lense of Carlisle united. We have not played Blackburn since the eighties Burnley we last played late nineties Preston we have played in the fourth tier Blackpool seem to come up fairly often. So I think your ratings are about right
Burnley have a population of around 80,000 so do the maths ..we average 21000 fans at turf moor..better than a a quarter of the population actually supports the club ..which makes us THE BEST supported club in the uk per head of population...utc champions at deadwood 22-23 🏆
@@Bacon-Butty633 thanks Mick, generally as a rule of thumb a club with a bigger ground has a bigger fan base if everything is equal, ie a club not in free fall through the divisions 👍🏻
@mattthegroundhopper9242 on this occasion you're principal is wrong ..take away the walker years and what are you left with?? A fact that deadwood is too big for Blackburn rovers ..the only reason it was ever full is because away fans used to get over 8000 tickets in the Premier league
14000 at home games in a dump stadium that holds 31000..cups won in 1860 - 1870 ..absolutely pathetic amateur football ⚽️ the mighty Blackburn rovers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 yeah just like we think Brighton's a very good away weekend ,been there twice with mates and daughter ,in camper rite on the prom good days for us blackpool fc ,bad days for them playing in an old athletics stadium beat em both times ,and great fun weekends but barred from a nightclub on one sat ,cos blackpool fans kicked off there on the Friday lol .
@anthonytibbs9902 got the better head to head against Blackpool Blackburn Burnley since then are closet rivals sorry to make you look silly you did ask
You really think that makes me look silly 🤣 Nob-enders have looked silly for a long time, how's that old chant go "we are superior" not had a chance to sing that for a good while. Truth be told, I'd like to see PNE in the Prem for a season. Our rivalry has lost a bit of magic since our Prem years. UTC
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 we that I know all 8 prescum mate ,it's in our blood and much blood has been spilled between us over the years ,I've been in deepdale twice in the 80 s blackpool fans set fire back of the stand , obviously,sadly firemen got there too quick and I wonder if you know ,there's been deaths with these derbies even one earlier this year ,in blackpool there was a few fights throughout the day ,but sadly when one kicked off at Manchester pub tony Johnson from blackpool died ,due to brain damage and a Burnley fan was hospitalized after getting stabbed ,by a blackpool fan they will never stop it but it's way over the top ,when lives are lost around matches Preston have lost 3 I'm not sure ,between Blackburn and Burnley but I'd be surprised if there hadn't been any .
@@anthonytibbs9902 talk English dickhead and maybe you don't know ,blackpool fc unlucky again with latest owner all our clubs ,are only as good our owners allow them to be ,after we got promoted to championship our home crowds were decent ,around 15,000 average ,put it this way I saw a prescum crowd who's been in championship years ,home to Millwall who bring a few the crowd was shocking just about 11,000 ,we again don't buy players another shite owner ,but still the best and loudest most humour in the land tangerine army ✌️
@mickharrison9004 yeah enjoy your 1 point for 'social media' what a massive category, and one that cost PNE from being 2nd overall and gave silly little never won a thing and the by far worst supported club shitepool. Have fun in division irrelevant
Pretty stupid system to use IMO, things like social media following and crowd sizes these days mean a lot more than Prestons trophies won in the time of the dinosaurs with no crossbar. Blackpool are just much more well known across England than the Nobbers especially since they haven't even touched top flight football for 80 years. Also pretty unfair to say our 20 year average attendance is 8k due to a 5 year boycott of the club because of asset stripping rapist owners the Oystons. End of the day success and achievements have to be weighted more towards modern times as football as a sport in england has grown a lot since then. I don't deny we are smaller than both Burnley and Blackburn but to have us that far behind the Nobbers is a total joke. Pony club that has never done anything apart from winning a few things when Henry VIII was around. Not that I'm having a go at you but more educating you on why we are and always have been superior to the lilyshite scum down the M55.
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 not a fan mate 😂 probably worded that a bit too harshly after a few drinks😂, it was a good video I just cannot stand them lot.
Burnley are the bigger club whether you like it or not.. jack walkers rent a crowd bought everything but where are they now? And giving away supporters the full stand at deadwood also gives the wrong impression that Blackburn are bigger and better supported..turf moor holds 21,000 its about time we expanded ..the fan base is huge and 25,000 is easily achievable..our last Wembley visit saw 48,000 clarets backing the club..and as for these so called trophies that Blackburn have won..these f a cups was won beating amateur teams from Scotland in the years before the football league was invented..its hardly worth a mention is it..but Blackburn cling on to the days of 1860 ..how pathetic is that? Utc champions at deadwood 22-23 🏆 premier league neighbours and not playing to a stadium that is only one third full 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks Gordon, you seem all wound up 😀 I remember the days when Burnley were in the bottom division playing Gillingham about the same time as Blackburn winning the Premier League 👍🏻⚽️
Nice one Matt. Alot of research going into that. Thought Blackburn would come out on top, due also to the fact that their stadium was sold out during their premier league seasons. Are lucky to get 15000 these days. Money is probably tight up there, and now they have sold Brereton Diaz, so cant see them making a push for the Prem this season. Looking forward to your groundhopping vids, even though i will still be watching the cricket lol
Thanks Berlin Dave, was considering ground hopping some cricket and rugby league grounds during the summer but I didn’t know how that would take on the channel so I haven’t. Depending on the train strikes I am hoping to ground hop Stockport v Gills on the first game of the season 👍🏻⚽️
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 now that should be good Matt. The sleeping giant is awakening, but we still need a striker or 2. Whats up with BR always striking mate. CU soon on here and maybe have a chat sometime, once your up and running on the Groundhopper
@@davidwilliamgay4821 will do Dave, UTG 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 Matt have you taken a look at the short Como vids. Day 3 is special. Bought tears to my eyes old mate
@@davidwilliamgay4821 i would have liked to have gone over to Como to watch the Gills, apparently a few hundred made the trip ✈️🌍
Fantastic, and very interesting, as a preston fan delighted to see tiny little Blackpool at the bottom with 1point, they are really pub league level as you've just proved.😂
Thanks William, I have to declare an interest, I have family living in Preston 👍🏻
It really is a non starter this it can only be Blackburn Rovers, other fans can spin as many angles as they want but this is the 10th ( i think) most succesful club in English football. No debate to be had but the rest can jostle for position.
Burnley fans seem to disagree but the stats seem to agree with you, thanks for your comments 👍🏻⚽️
I think we get unfairly dismissed as a small club (clarets) but can't really argue this to be honest although as someone has said the attendances seemed skewed so as to include our fallow period decent criteria other than that round to be fair
Fcuk b*stard rovers!
UTC
Thanks for your comments Paul 👍🏻
Burnley fans showing how bitter they are they can’t grasp that Blackburn are a bigger club as the stats clearly show always in our shadow 💙🤍 always drag there knuckles when it’s proven 😂 😂
I didn’t realise the extent of the rivalry between Blackburn and Burnley 👍🏻⚽️
Bigger knuckles also with six fingers on each hand.
@@unclejacksbluewhitearmy14 years horse fiddler 🐴
@@burnleytilidie1882 So you have 7 fingers on each hand now?
Blackburn won the most major trophies end of discussion not even a debate imao
That’s what the stats would suggest 👍🏻
In 1860? Pathetic Blackburn
@@mattthegroundhopper9242
Yup fan attendance numbers fluctuates based on the team success currently but stats r stats and Rovers have won the most
@@hdmrcentral4261 agree 👍🏻⚽️🏆
I think you should change the pts system for fa cup winners and runners up, should be more than 1 point more for winning
That’s a fair point, but you only win one extra game to win the final hence the 1 point difference 👍🏻⚽️
Never in doubt
Presumably you are a Blackburn fan 👍🏻
@mattthegroundhopper9242 yes mate 👍
@@RubyMarkLindMillyhoping to get to Ewood Park next season for the channel 👍🏻⚽️
Who does Gold support?
Gold?
Do a Devon one Plymouth, Exeter, Torquay
I could do but would it be a guaranteed Plymouth win? 👍🏻⚽️ thanks for your comments
Pants !!!! You cannot at one moment select of all time and then restrict to 20 - 30 years. You have to be consistent otherwise you can engineer the winner.
Thanks Nick, no engineering going on, just using credible sources, the further you go back regarding the attendances the less reliable they become 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 I'm not questioning your sources. I'm questioning your applied logic. Your findings should be based upon a definitive timeframe across the board and not 'of all time' in part and over the last 20 to 30 years on others. I could engineer Burnley to be the bigger club if the period was restricted to the last 10 years in part.
Bolton Wanderers should have been included in this as well.
They are Lancashire not GM
But Bolton come under the Greater Manchester sprawl 👍🏻
Of course the mighty Blue & Whites win.
Hats off to the clarets though for having more fingers on each hand…..and keeping it in the family. I guess the owners like the latter.
No love lost between Blackburn and Burnley 😀⚽️
Not many rovers fans show respect to burnley, I think in almost everyone there's a little bit of respect for each other despite the hostility
There is simply not even a discussion, Blackburn win in every single department by a country mile. All the others can discuss the other positions but there will only ever be one top dog and that’s the one with the Premier League trophy and 10 top ten Premier League finishes under it’s belt. Only 8 other clubs in England have won more trophies than the blue and whites, and certainly none of these other 3 clubs are in that 8.
Good point, the stats seem to agree with you 👍🏻⚽️
No seeming about it @@mattthegroundhopper9242
Think you need to check the attendances averages
Thanks Paul but they are reliable, which ones don’t you agree with? 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 He doesn't trust the Blackburn ones, they had the shut half there stadium for multiple seasons because they couldn't sell tickets. This year where they've been in the play off spots almost all season they had an average of 50% capacity
@@therobinsonson3135Blackburn spent the first decade of the 21st century in the Prem. That will affect the average massively.
Manchester and Liverpool willl always be Lancashire cities as far as I'm concerned.
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Looking through the lense of Carlisle united.
We have not played Blackburn since the eighties
Burnley we last played late nineties
Preston we have played in the fourth tier
Blackpool seem to come up fairly often.
So I think your ratings are about right
Thanks Jimmy, you have another away trip to Blackpool to look forward to this season 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 yeah; it’s one that was eagerly anticipated; of course it turns out it’s about mid December!
@@jimmycburfield5997haha, brilliant, Blackpool in December, time for your woolies 🥶
Who the Christ wants to go to Carlisle, magnificent city it is, if they don’t have to?
Bank ostrava Boro played them in uefa Cup
Top marks borosniper 👍🏻 it is indeed Banik Ostrava based on the east side of the Czech Republic 🇨🇿👍🏻⚽️
We will just say Burnley are the most relevant club UTC
Thanks Daniel, I get the feeling the other Lancashire clubs probably don’t quite agree with you 👍🏻⚽️
Burnley have a population of around 80,000 so do the maths ..we average 21000 fans at turf moor..better than a a quarter of the population actually supports the club ..which makes us THE BEST supported club in the uk per head of population...utc champions at deadwood 22-23 🏆
Thanks Gordon, maybe I should do a new video comparing the average attendance with the local population and giving it a percentage 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 maybe you make the categories actually mean something why does size of ground matter ?
@@Bacon-Butty633 thanks Mick, generally as a rule of thumb a club with a bigger ground has a bigger fan base if everything is equal, ie a club not in free fall through the divisions 👍🏻
@mattthegroundhopper9242 on this occasion you're principal is wrong ..take away the walker years and what are you left with?? A fact that deadwood is too big for Blackburn rovers ..the only reason it was ever full is because away fans used to get over 8000 tickets in the Premier league
I say as a Roverite amalgamate 4 clubs to make a football giant
Forget local tribalism
Will that also include the giants Morecambe, Accrington and Fleetwood? 👍🏻
Easily blackburn rovers ....won the most in football history ...biggest fan base as well..
Thanks for your comments, it appears the scores within the rounds would tend to agree with you 👍🏻
14000 at home games in a dump stadium that holds 31000..cups won in 1860 - 1870 ..absolutely pathetic amateur football ⚽️ the mighty Blackburn rovers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Biggest fan base 🤣🤣🤣
Burnley biggest fan base 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@steffanjennyburrup5801 🐴🐴
As a man city fan Blackpool has always been my second club
Nice one with that mate utmp .
Blackpool is always a good away trip 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 yeah just like we think Brighton's a very good away weekend ,been there twice with mates and daughter ,in camper rite on the prom good days for us blackpool fc ,bad days for them playing in an old athletics stadium beat em both times ,and great fun weekends but barred from a nightclub on one sat ,cos blackpool fans kicked off there on the Friday lol .
Pne home of football and the only real invincibles
Yep, what have they done since hahaha
@anthonytibbs9902 got the better head to head against Blackpool Blackburn Burnley since then are closet rivals sorry to make you look silly you did ask
You really think that makes me look silly 🤣
Nob-enders have looked silly for a long time, how's that old chant go "we are superior" not had a chance to sing that for a good while.
Truth be told, I'd like to see PNE in the Prem for a season. Our rivalry has lost a bit of magic since our Prem years. UTC
@anthonytibbs9902 no mate I win you said nob enders so the judge says you are still the silly one 😜
@anthonytibbs9902 I'm happy in the championship hate the Premier league
Burnley are a bigger club then Blackburn hand's down simple as that especially after they won the league at Ewood park
Preston could be the biggest club soon the way they are going, thanks for your comments 👍🏻⚽️
Winning the championship at your rivals ground doesn't make you bigger, have never seen burnley in the europa or champions league
😂😂😂 the one the championship - hilarious comment
@@YemikZK2018 we was in the europa league 😂
Come on Rovers
Thanks G-H, hoping to ground hop to Ewood Park this season 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 Welcome mate. 👍👍
@@ghulamhussain687 nice one 👍🏻
Been a long time since you won something
@@anthonytibbs9902 Yh true,Just about missed out on goal difference this time.
All 4 teams are tinpot
Pipe down, Goldilocks!
The fact that 3 were EFL founders should be enough for you.
Noooo, all teams have a great history and great heritage, part of the DNA of English football ⚽️ 🏴
We know Preston come bottom of the fans list ,shite support worst in lancs 😂
Thanks Mick, not a Preston fan then 👍🏻
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 we that I know all 8 prescum mate ,it's in our blood and much blood has been spilled between us over the years ,I've been in deepdale twice in the 80 s blackpool fans set fire back of the stand , obviously,sadly firemen got there too quick and I wonder if you know ,there's been deaths with these derbies even one earlier this year ,in blackpool there was a few fights throughout the day ,but sadly when one kicked off at Manchester pub tony Johnson from blackpool died ,due to brain damage and a Burnley fan was hospitalized after getting stabbed ,by a blackpool fan they will never stop it but it's way over the top ,when lives are lost around matches Preston have lost 3 I'm not sure ,between Blackburn and Burnley but I'd be surprised if there hadn't been any .
Haha shame the post COVID attendance wasn't include Rovers, Preston and Blackpool allllllll 💩 Guess who I support 🤣
@@anthonytibbs9902 talk English dickhead and maybe you don't know ,blackpool fc unlucky again with latest owner all our clubs ,are only as good our owners allow them to be ,after we got promoted to championship our home crowds were decent ,around 15,000 average ,put it this way I saw a prescum crowd who's been in championship years ,home to Millwall who bring a few the crowd was shocking just about 11,000 ,we again don't buy players another shite owner ,but still the best and loudest most humour in the land tangerine army ✌️
@mickharrison9004 yeah enjoy your 1 point for 'social media' what a massive category, and one that cost PNE from being 2nd overall and gave silly little never won a thing and the by far worst supported club shitepool. Have fun in division irrelevant
Pretty stupid system to use IMO, things like social media following and crowd sizes these days mean a lot more than Prestons trophies won in the time of the dinosaurs with no crossbar. Blackpool are just much more well known across England than the Nobbers especially since they haven't even touched top flight football for 80 years. Also pretty unfair to say our 20 year average attendance is 8k due to a 5 year boycott of the club because of asset stripping rapist owners the Oystons. End of the day success and achievements have to be weighted more towards modern times as football as a sport in england has grown a lot since then. I don't deny we are smaller than both Burnley and Blackburn but to have us that far behind the Nobbers is a total joke. Pony club that has never done anything apart from winning a few things when Henry VIII was around. Not that I'm having a go at you but more educating you on why we are and always have been superior to the lilyshite scum down the M55.
I presume you don’t like PNE then 😂
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 not a fan mate 😂 probably worded that a bit too harshly after a few drinks😂, it was a good video I just cannot stand them lot.
Burnley are the bigger club whether you like it or not.. jack walkers rent a crowd bought everything but where are they now? And giving away supporters the full stand at deadwood also gives the wrong impression that Blackburn are bigger and better supported..turf moor holds 21,000 its about time we expanded ..the fan base is huge and 25,000 is easily achievable..our last Wembley visit saw 48,000 clarets backing the club..and as for these so called trophies that Blackburn have won..these f a cups was won beating amateur teams from Scotland in the years before the football league was invented..its hardly worth a mention is it..but Blackburn cling on to the days of 1860 ..how pathetic is that? Utc champions at deadwood 22-23 🏆 premier league neighbours and not playing to a stadium that is only one third full 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks Gordon, you seem all wound up 😀 I remember the days when Burnley were in the bottom division playing Gillingham about the same time as Blackburn winning the Premier League 👍🏻⚽️
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 wound up? 🤣 don't you like the truth ? 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 cry some more
@@gordonramsay82 I’m a neutral in this Gordon, just look at stats and facts 👍🏻⚽️
@gordonramsay82 dry your eyes mate COYB 🤣🤣 @mattthegroundhopper9242 great video pal 👍
@mattthegroundhopper9242 you haven't got a clue about the rivalry..how we embarrass Blackburn on and off the pitch ..I suggest you do some homework