This video is really blowing up since the game released. I do intend to do a follow-up video giving some thoughts on the finished product, but for now let me just say that if you're looking for no-bullshit content about video games, anime and general geekery, I've got some old videos that might pique your interest, and you should consider subscribing for future content. I've got some cool video essays in the pipeline, and since I'm off school at the moment (sorta), I should have time to pump out some videos soon. Also hopefully my cohost finds a place to live soon so we can do podcasts again. Thanks in advance for your consideration.
I pretty much agree with you. The trailer really didn't have a lot going on, so all people could really think about is how much it looked like Hollow Knight. If it was more dynamic or showed off more features I think people would be more kind to it. But with a release of early 2020, I doubt the game is really going to be much better than what we saw.
We didn't see enough from the trailer to come to a definitive understanding of what the game entails. We can only really assume at this stage-and it's just unfortunate that from what was depicted within thereof, seemed uncannily similar, if not a lesser version of Hollow Knight. There's also the presumption that from what is depicted within a trailer, concerns what the product has best got to offer-which in that case, your argument may apply.
I honestly don’t get people trashing this game. A lot of them say it’s trying to be HK, but it’s not as good. The ridiculousness of the criticism of not living up to one of the greatest games of all time aside, a lot of the other things people say don’t make sense. The world looks kind of similar but the art style itself is pretty different. You can’t own an aesthetic. By that logic, it’d be completely fine to write HK off as a simple Dark Souls copy, which it definitely isn’t. All that being said, I hope Gleamlight turns out to be amazing, and people get over themselves. I agree the trailer wasn’t amazing (the song that plays during it sounds a lot like Asgore’s theme from UNDERTALE, which didn’t help). Great video!
I feel sorry for this game. First of all, a lot of games use similar shadow effects to hollow knight, and the terrain does look very different. It might be similar, but you don't see people yelling at celeste for looking a bit like axiom verge.
@@ZekeFreek kinda agree on that one, i love salt and sanctuary but you mentioned it once and the footage stayed on screen for way too long. You should try to focus on showing footage of what you'r talking about "at the moment" ;)
I thought that was a commentary on Salt & Sanctuary, whilst not being as ubiquitously and wildly popular as Hollow Knight, achieving comparatively great heights. Include Blasphemous, and you got yourself the Holy Trinity of Souls-like Metroidvanias!
I just made a comment on Gleamlights trailer video, then I come here and this guy repeats exactly what I wrote. It's good to see I'm not alone on this. Gleamlight needs a lot of polish on their characters if it's going to be a success, among other things.
I swear, its like people think hollow knight is it own genre and that nobody else is allowed to make metroidvania. There's a difference between taking inspiration and plagurizam.
I agree. I wish i can remember what game it is, but a game came out many was calling a shameless Breath Of The Wild ripoff. And people was hating on this new game for it. I had finished BOTW for some time, and for me, knowing a new game was coming out that was something like it was exciting to me. I wanted to get it to play it. Seeing how much I loved playing BOTW. I thought it was interesting when I had stared to post that I liked the idea of this new game, and why, I seen others change their mind about it, and star to like the idea of it also, for the same reason. Now, i just wish i could remember what this game was, seeing it was not yet out when it was being talked about. Now, I have no clue at to the name of it. And BOTW 2 has yet to come out. Some say, it might not come out until the next Nintendo comes out. So it be nice to play that other game, until it dose. Edit: I think I found the game, and is called Genshin Impact. I feel I should get it. And I think I will.
So this game is getting ready to come out it comes out on the 20th of August so we're getting ready to find out. And ask for the trailer on their social media day did show off throughout up there I would say testing face and it did get a lot more fluid and smooth ER I pick this game up because it looks really interesting and it caught my eye from the beginning I couldn't say it has anything to do with Hollow Knight other than the slight look of it but like I said we're getting ready to find out cuz I have been following them since I first heard of the game back in February. But on their Twitter page and on there Instagram you can see the post of the gameplay that they posted throughout time and you can definitely tell the differences it eventually develops background has music and the child which is the character that you play ends up being a little bit more fluent doesn't look as choppy. My only concern with the game wasn't there trailer it was the fact that there was no any information on what the game's jonra was going to be was it going to be a roguelike or a metroidvania or a mix between something you can't really tell just from their trailer I had asked multiple times but they would never tell me. I paid like 18 bucks for the game so I guess I'm getting ready to find out. When it comes down to what other people think of games I never really paid that much attention I watch reviews as to see what other people's opinions are and what the gameplay looks like as they play through the game or show Random clips of them playing through the games. There are quite a few games that I thought I would hate even after watching the reviews but decided to purchase anyway and ended up loving them crosscode being one of them crosscode I really didn't think I would like the combat yeah but as it turns out it was very much worth it
I definitely feel like by not releasing a new trailer or any real new footage since the announcement they haven't tried digging themselves out of the hole they found themselves in. I feel like if they released a trailer about 5 months after the announcement trailer than they would have been able to show way more and show how it's different from Hollow Knight but they haven't which is probably not the best move on their part.
@@ragreenburg well while it isn't a trailer they release new clips of their progression and while a trailer might have changed a very few minds because once people made that comparison it'll take a lot more than trailers to change their mind
No, Salt and sanctuary has enough distinguishing features, a complete perspective change (2d to 3d is a BIG deal), an emphasis on platforming and OWNS its inspiration from Dark Souls, it's also a case of a smaller developer being inspired by a bigger one, not the other way around.
tbh. it looks like an artist really took to the style, but the programmer and solid animation wasn't adept. If anything, if that designer focuses on their ability to bend art like that, they'll go far.
Honestly if the game was presented as an omage to hollow knight i'd be ok with it, But here the devs are saying that it has nothing to do with hollow kinght. Then again looking at the trailer, the games aeras, sound design and the gameplay shown (wich is not the complete gameplay i gess), looks exactly ilke hollow knight...
Yea I agree its almost insulting that they said it has nothing to do with hollow knight when the games look so similar. The least they could do is give hollow knight some credit.
This game interests me! Hollow Knight must have a competitor. This game needs more polishing. I hope December 2020 or Early January 2021 this game will be released.
@@ZekeFreek Players attitude is usually like they are quick to name call a game a clone of this and that game while both games are different in many ways. Only the art and dark graphics is the same by watching the trailer. Now about controls, skills, length of play time and other game play elements and start and menu screen and music and sound Gleam Light will be different. Now, do you want to know a Warcraft III clone it is literally a clone you and I could say its like COPY & PASTE. Take a look at A Year Of The Rain. Voice, Music, what the soldiers do almost everything is like Warcraft III. People also called Titan Quest, Grim Dawn and Fate a Diablo clone while it has different concept but similar in a few ways. I'd say Gleam Light is like this unlike A Year Of Rain and Warcaft III is only a Copy & Paste.
That would be like saying that every first person shooter in the world is a rip off of Doom every 2D fighter is a rip off of Street Fighter the new Halo ripped off Doom eternal with the grappling hook thing which Metroid Prime actually did first and technically all metroidvanias fall into two categories Super Metroid or Symphony of the Night I prefer Symphony of the Night Over Metroid when it comes to metroidvanias and I find Hollow Knight more of a Metroid game then I do is Symphony of the Night game we're time Spinners and blood-stained is more of a Symphony of the Night where Hollow Knight Axiom Verge are more on the Metroid side this would be nice if it's more of the symphony side as where hollow Knight was more on the Metroid side guess we'll have to wait and see either way well I'll check it out it will hold us over until silk song
I bought it in preorder because I feel so bad for all the negativity this team got. So it looks like Hollow Knight, and what? The more games like that the better, good luck reaching the polish of Hollow Knight though :) Edit: the joke is on me, when I saw the credits roll after 1 and something hour of playing I couldn't believe that. Then I checked Steam reviews and realized that I got ripped off.
Well metroidvena games are rather similar to one another I'm not saying they RIP each other off I'm just saying there very similar and have the same qualities
This isn't "inspired" by Hollow Knight. Artists and developers all have influences. Take the whole Souls-like genre, for instance. Those are good examples of "inspiration." Gleamlight is a complete and utter ripoff. They did not put a single ounce of creativity into the artwork. They could've altered the color scheme or line thickness, at the least, but no. So they lack creativity AND intelligence. Do either of those facts bode well for any other aspect of the game? No. This game deserves to fail on the basis of the blatant art theft alone.
I don't think that's a fair take, especially regarding the creativity of the artwork. Gleamlight has a very distinct theme going on, which is stained glass: the character, the enemies, the environment, everything follows that mosaic-like look. That's VERY different from the art of Hollow Knight.
I have no sympathy for the hate the developers are going. The developers had free choice to design and develop any game in any art style and they chose to adhere so closely to the hollow knight template. The world has an equal right to criticize them. Team Cherry works for years on the lore, style, gameplay, everything. These guys coming in for 'inspiration'? Sickening
Saying it's not a ripoff is like that one time Vanilla Ice said the main bit of "Ice, Ice Baby" isn't a ripoff of "Under Pressure" because he added two notes.
Who cares that 2000s born gamers are calling it a rip-off? Either the game is bad and you don't play (so who cares?) or it's good and you enjoy it (and then who cares?).
I don't really agree with that... I don't think if you were to be creating something you would like someone totally making the same stuff you did 3 years ago without mensioning your work as a source of inspiration...
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This video is really blowing up since the game released. I do intend to do a follow-up video giving some thoughts on the finished product, but for now let me just say that if you're looking for no-bullshit content about video games, anime and general geekery, I've got some old videos that might pique your interest, and you should consider subscribing for future content.
I've got some cool video essays in the pipeline, and since I'm off school at the moment (sorta), I should have time to pump out some videos soon. Also hopefully my cohost finds a place to live soon so we can do podcasts again.
Thanks in advance for your consideration.
I pretty much agree with you. The trailer really didn't have a lot going on, so all people could really think about is how much it looked like Hollow Knight. If it was more dynamic or showed off more features I think people would be more kind to it. But with a release of early 2020, I doubt the game is really going to be much better than what we saw.
Didn't think I'd see you here mossbag! Love your videos, I was bummed that I missed the livestream a week or two ago.
We didn't see enough from the trailer to come to a definitive understanding of what the game entails. We can only really assume at this stage-and it's just unfortunate that from what was depicted within thereof, seemed uncannily similar, if not a lesser version of Hollow Knight. There's also the presumption that from what is depicted within a trailer, concerns what the product has best got to offer-which in that case, your argument may apply.
I honestly don’t get people trashing this game. A lot of them say it’s trying to be HK, but it’s not as good. The ridiculousness of the criticism of not living up to one of the greatest games of all time aside, a lot of the other things people say don’t make sense. The world looks kind of similar but the art style itself is pretty different. You can’t own an aesthetic. By that logic, it’d be completely fine to write HK off as a simple Dark Souls copy, which it definitely isn’t. All that being said, I hope Gleamlight turns out to be amazing, and people get over themselves. I agree the trailer wasn’t amazing (the song that plays during it sounds a lot like Asgore’s theme from UNDERTALE, which didn’t help). Great video!
I looks inspired and does look visually influenced by hollow knight. I think ppl can say that without drama. It just does
Inspired? This looks like an exact copy.
If its too similar- bad. If its too different- also bad.
I feel sorry for this game. First of all, a lot of games use similar shadow effects to hollow knight, and the terrain does look very different. It might be similar, but you don't see people yelling at celeste for looking a bit like axiom verge.
I would recommend not putting an almost whole minute of footage from a game that you are only briefly mentioning.
Yeah, I've gotten that a lot. I was kinda rushing this one.
@@ZekeFreek kinda agree on that one, i love salt and sanctuary but you mentioned it once and the footage stayed on screen for way too long.
You should try to focus on showing footage of what you'r talking about "at the moment" ;)
@@ZekeFreek And thats the moment when youtubers become mediocre. By rushing their videos.
I thought that was a commentary on Salt & Sanctuary, whilst not being as ubiquitously and wildly popular as Hollow Knight, achieving comparatively great heights.
Include Blasphemous, and you got yourself the Holy Trinity of Souls-like Metroidvanias!
I just made a comment on Gleamlights trailer video, then I come here and this guy repeats exactly what I wrote. It's good to see I'm not alone on this. Gleamlight needs a lot of polish on their characters if it's going to be a success, among other things.
I swear, its like people think hollow knight is it own genre and that nobody else is allowed to make metroidvania. There's a difference between taking inspiration and plagurizam.
I agree. I wish i can remember what game it is, but a game came out many was calling a shameless Breath Of The Wild ripoff. And people was hating on this new game for it.
I had finished BOTW for some time, and for me, knowing a new game was coming out that was something like it was exciting to me. I wanted to get it to play it. Seeing how much I loved playing BOTW.
I thought it was interesting when I had stared to post that I liked the idea of this new game, and why, I seen others change their mind about it, and star to like the idea of it also, for the same reason.
Now, i just wish i could remember what this game was, seeing it was not yet out when it was being talked about. Now, I have no clue at to the name of it.
And BOTW 2 has yet to come out. Some say, it might not come out until the next Nintendo comes out. So it be nice to play that other game, until it dose.
Edit: I think I found the game, and is called Genshin Impact. I feel I should get it. And I think I will.
So this game is getting ready to come out it comes out on the 20th of August so we're getting ready to find out. And ask for the trailer on their social media day did show off throughout up there I would say testing face and it did get a lot more fluid and smooth ER I pick this game up because it looks really interesting and it caught my eye from the beginning I couldn't say it has anything to do with Hollow Knight other than the slight look of it but like I said we're getting ready to find out cuz I have been following them since I first heard of the game back in February. But on their Twitter page and on there Instagram you can see the post of the gameplay that they posted throughout time and you can definitely tell the differences it eventually develops background has music and the child which is the character that you play ends up being a little bit more fluent doesn't look as choppy. My only concern with the game wasn't there trailer it was the fact that there was no any information on what the game's jonra was going to be was it going to be a roguelike or a metroidvania or a mix between something you can't really tell just from their trailer I had asked multiple times but they would never tell me. I paid like 18 bucks for the game so I guess I'm getting ready to find out. When it comes down to what other people think of games I never really paid that much attention I watch reviews as to see what other people's opinions are and what the gameplay looks like as they play through the game or show Random clips of them playing through the games. There are quite a few games that I thought I would hate even after watching the reviews but decided to purchase anyway and ended up loving them crosscode being one of them crosscode I really didn't think I would like the combat yeah but as it turns out it was very much worth it
I definitely feel like by not releasing a new trailer or any real new footage since the announcement they haven't tried digging themselves out of the hole they found themselves in. I feel like if they released a trailer about 5 months after the announcement trailer than they would have been able to show way more and show how it's different from Hollow Knight but they haven't which is probably not the best move on their part.
@@ragreenburg well while it isn't a trailer they release new clips of their progression and while a trailer might have changed a very few minds because once people made that comparison it'll take a lot more than trailers to change their mind
No, Salt and sanctuary has enough distinguishing features, a complete perspective change (2d to 3d is a BIG deal), an emphasis on platforming and OWNS its inspiration from Dark Souls, it's also a case of a smaller developer being inspired by a bigger one, not the other way around.
tbh. it looks like an artist really took to the style, but the programmer and solid animation wasn't adept.
If anything, if that designer focuses on their ability to bend art like that, they'll go far.
Then, Crowsworn appears.
If Crowsworn is bad, I'm gonna to cry.
Honestly if the game was presented as an omage to hollow knight i'd be ok with it,
But here the devs are saying that it has nothing to do with hollow kinght.
Then again looking at the trailer, the games aeras, sound design and the gameplay shown (wich is not the complete gameplay i gess), looks exactly ilke hollow knight...
Yea I agree its almost insulting that they said it has nothing to do with hollow knight when the games look so similar. The least they could do is give hollow knight some credit.
It's because hollow knight and gleamlight are the same genre.
Castlevania&Metroid&Megaman:Are you sure that hollow knight is NOT a rip-off but gleamlight is?
I agree with you 4:00 I am currently trying out Mortal Shells and I think it's a really fun game even though it's a DS's clone.
Finally... FINALLY Orco get's his own Game! About Time.
This game interests me! Hollow Knight must have a competitor. This game needs more polishing. I hope December 2020 or Early January 2021 this game will be released.
It's out in 2 days lol
@@ZekeFreek
Players attitude is usually like they are quick to name call a game a clone of this and that game while both games are different in many ways. Only the art and dark graphics is the same by watching the trailer. Now about controls, skills, length of play time and other game play elements and start and menu screen and music and sound Gleam Light will be different.
Now, do you want to know a Warcraft III clone it is literally a clone you and I could say its like COPY & PASTE. Take a look at A Year Of The Rain. Voice, Music, what the soldiers do almost everything is like Warcraft III.
People also called Titan Quest, Grim Dawn and Fate a Diablo clone while it has different concept but similar in a few ways. I'd say Gleam Light is like this unlike A Year Of Rain and Warcaft III is only a Copy & Paste.
That would be like saying that every first person shooter in the world is a rip off of Doom every 2D fighter is a rip off of Street Fighter the new Halo ripped off Doom eternal with the grappling hook thing which Metroid Prime actually did first and technically all metroidvanias fall into two categories Super Metroid or Symphony of the Night I prefer Symphony of the Night Over Metroid when it comes to metroidvanias and I find Hollow Knight more of a Metroid game then I do is Symphony of the Night game we're time Spinners and blood-stained is more of a Symphony of the Night where Hollow Knight Axiom Verge are more on the Metroid side this would be nice if it's more of the symphony side as where hollow Knight was more on the Metroid side guess we'll have to wait and see either way well I'll check it out it will hold us over until silk song
the problem is the fact that the art looks nothing like hollow knight.
I bought it in preorder because I feel so bad for all the negativity this team got. So it looks like Hollow Knight, and what? The more games like that the better, good luck reaching the polish of Hollow Knight though :)
Edit: the joke is on me, when I saw the credits roll after 1 and something hour of playing I couldn't believe that. Then I checked Steam reviews and realized that I got ripped off.
If you ain’t had a spam sandwich in a while bologna looks pretty dam good
Well metroidvena games are rather similar to one another I'm not saying they RIP each other off I'm just saying there very similar and have the same qualities
This isn't "inspired" by Hollow Knight. Artists and developers all have influences. Take the whole Souls-like genre, for instance. Those are good examples of "inspiration." Gleamlight is a complete and utter ripoff. They did not put a single ounce of creativity into the artwork. They could've altered the color scheme or line thickness, at the least, but no. So they lack creativity AND intelligence. Do either of those facts bode well for any other aspect of the game? No. This game deserves to fail on the basis of the blatant art theft alone.
Exactly
I don't think that's a fair take, especially regarding the creativity of the artwork. Gleamlight has a very distinct theme going on, which is stained glass: the character, the enemies, the environment, everything follows that mosaic-like look. That's VERY different from the art of Hollow Knight.
I have no sympathy for the hate the developers are going. The developers had free choice to design and develop any game in any art style and they chose to adhere so closely to the hollow knight template. The world has an equal right to criticize them.
Team Cherry works for years on the lore, style, gameplay, everything. These guys coming in for 'inspiration'? Sickening
Well, same game to soon is a stupid argument. Tell that to those dumb call of duty’s and every other clones that cone out every year.
Yes it is
I’m sorry but this looks not good.
Saying it's not a ripoff is like that one time Vanilla Ice said the main bit of "Ice, Ice Baby" isn't a ripoff of "Under Pressure" because he added two notes.
Who cares that 2000s born gamers are calling it a rip-off?
Either the game is bad and you don't play (so who cares?) or it's good and you enjoy it (and then who cares?).
I don't really agree with that...
I don't think if you were to be creating something you would like someone totally making the same stuff you did 3 years ago without mensioning your work as a source of inspiration...
@@FrancisEctomorphe But that's up to Team Cherry to decide that, not random people. And I didn't see Team Cherry whine about that.
@@Alayric people do have the right to find that outrageous though. I just personaly think that it's not ok to make money off of someone else's work...
Yeah man, copying someones intellectual property is FINE, WHO CARES. DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN.
You have a lazy brain.
Great vid. I wanna play it but it better be good
Well made video thanks
Dunno Rick, looks 100% exactly like a rip-off.
And whats the idea of copying that lame game in first place?