Great new insights into one of my favourite scores, thanks Keith - having fun with the exercises, too. It always struck me also that the b7 in the bass all over this score echoes harmony in Britten's Sea Interludes from 'Peter Grimes', like the terrible power of the sea threatening to drag the characters under. Glorious stuff.
@@Keith_Horn You are not gonna believe this, but since seeing this, I came across the following - the celebrated 'most sickening chord in all opera', from R Strauss's 'Salome', which occurs at a particularly gruesome moment in the story, and stone me if it doesn't seem strangely familiar: the chord at the sfz - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Salome_opera_dissonant_chord.jpg - JW is cleverer than we could possibly imagine ...thelistenersclub.com/2023/02/01/strauss-salome-the-gruesome-finale/
@@kevinsargent3780 that’s the same chord in a different voicing! Nice catch! I have this chord on the list for the next iteration of chord of the week. Now I can call back to this Jaws chord when I put together that video. Thanks!
By rearranging the notes which add up to these particular sounds you produced three different chords by changing the voicing and the bass tone. Of course the individual tones can add up to your description, but essentially as soon as you change the bass they are completely different chords. And the dissonance of the voicing is an integral color of that sound. Every note has a different function when you change the bass tone, why don’t you name the color of the chord in relationship to the bottom tone? For piano players sure , a quick acknowledgment of the voicing needed to produce that sound by renaming the chord does have purpose, but it doesn’t describe the complete texture. Like Amin7 over D (often written in the real book) is of course a D9sus4
Sorry, I forgot to include that I really do like your posts and wonderful that you are talking about these types of how many structures and educating musicians making them more accessible and available to incorporate in our compositions and improvisations
You're right - when the pitches are redistributed they are totally different chords. I considered labeling this an Eb chord but I couldn't think of a way that made sense or clarified the chord for understanding. Maybe EbmM13(#11) - but that labeling only creates confusion for me - maybe not for others I suppose. D_F/Eb is the shortest route to understanding this chord for my brain. Thank you for your thoughts!
@@Keith_Horn I’m thinking of the “Augurs Of Spring” section after the introduction with the deep strings playing the one chord odd rhythm motif. The invisible shark presence in Williams’ score has always reminded me of that. Great channel & loving these videos. So informative.
love that chord!
It's a good one.
Great new insights into one of my favourite scores, thanks Keith - having fun with the exercises, too. It always struck me also that the b7 in the bass all over this score echoes harmony in Britten's Sea Interludes from 'Peter Grimes', like the terrible power of the sea threatening to drag the characters under. Glorious stuff.
Thanks, Kevin! That’s a really good catch - I’m going to go listen to some Britten!
@@Keith_Horn You are not gonna believe this, but since seeing this, I came across the following - the celebrated 'most sickening chord in all opera', from R Strauss's 'Salome', which occurs at a particularly gruesome moment in the story, and stone me if it doesn't seem strangely familiar: the chord at the sfz - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Salome_opera_dissonant_chord.jpg - JW is cleverer than we could possibly imagine ...thelistenersclub.com/2023/02/01/strauss-salome-the-gruesome-finale/
@@kevinsargent3780 that’s the same chord in a different voicing! Nice catch! I have this chord on the list for the next iteration of chord of the week. Now I can call back to this Jaws chord when I put together that video. Thanks!
@@Keith_Horn Yes, identical chord but in root position: and I have no doubt JW knew exactly what he was doing when he quoted it.
Great job!
Thank you!
At 7:00 I misspelled "Equivalence" 🙄
By rearranging the notes which add up to these particular sounds you produced three different chords by changing the voicing and the bass tone. Of course the individual tones can add up to your description, but essentially as soon as you change the bass they are completely different chords. And the dissonance of the voicing is an integral color of that sound. Every note has a different function when you change the bass tone, why don’t you name the color of the chord in relationship to the bottom tone? For piano players sure , a quick acknowledgment of the voicing needed to produce that sound by renaming the chord does have purpose, but it doesn’t describe the complete texture. Like Amin7 over D (often written in the real book) is of course a D9sus4
Sorry, I forgot to include that I really do like your posts and wonderful that you are talking about these types of how many structures and educating musicians making them more accessible and available to incorporate in our compositions and improvisations
You're right - when the pitches are redistributed they are totally different chords. I considered labeling this an Eb chord but I couldn't think of a way that made sense or clarified the chord for understanding. Maybe EbmM13(#11) - but that labeling only creates confusion for me - maybe not for others I suppose. D_F/Eb is the shortest route to understanding this chord for my brain. Thank you for your thoughts!
Isn’t the Jaws theme basically the Rite Of Spring underwater?
The Bite of Summer! I don’t think the two/three note ostinato resembles the Rite but maybe the tuba melody is similar to something from the Rite?
@@Keith_Horn I’m thinking of the “Augurs Of Spring” section after the introduction with the deep strings playing the one chord odd rhythm motif. The invisible shark presence in Williams’ score has always reminded me of that. Great channel & loving these videos. So informative.
I can hear that!
I just noticed the autocorrect from ostinato to "obstinate" 🤣
Powerful stuff! 😂
This Chord is awesome