Don't use a stove fan with your Mr. Heater Big Buddy or Little Buddy!!!!!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ธ.ค. 2022
  • All of the videos I have seen on this has the Mr. Heater using the stove fan outside or in a cold room. This is to keep the heater under the max temperature of the fan. In a room (or camper) once the heater heats everything up the temperature is just too hot.
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  • @arlenewolf5260
    @arlenewolf5260 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    The fan makes the heater much much more efficient. All you needed to do was to find a way to place the fan in a position where it did not overheat. That is why it comes with a thermometer. Something like a piece of tin (paint can lid) between the heater and the fan or a coat hanger to move the fan a little further up or back was all you needed to do. They sell replacement Thermoelectric generator modules for your fan. Go fix the fan and continue your experiment and it will work great.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      On a little buddy there is no other place to put it as it is only one tile. And on my big buddy I was measuring the off side at just under 700. The on side was just over 700. Only 50 degrees difference but all over the 675 max.

    • @arlenewolf5260
      @arlenewolf5260 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@johnwilliams7473 I know I could build a spacer to dissipate the extra heat and still be able to mount it with zero issues. Possibly take a gallon paint can lid and fasten it to the buddy handle with conduit clamps (then put the fan on the paint can lid) on the carry handle the extra heat would go around the lid and not strait up. Also I would design a way to be able to put the fan a little more rearward. That fan is so important I would find a way to do it.

    • @Rebekahdavignon
      @Rebekahdavignon ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@arlenewolf5260 There is another video on YT that shows using a paint grid ($4 in hardware store) and using it as a shelf for cooking. Put the fan on that; which is in front of the hottest part of the heater.

    • @arlenewolf5260
      @arlenewolf5260 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Rebekahdavignon Hi Rebekah, I do not think you understand. The guy doing this video damaged his fan from TOO MUCH heat. He needs to find a sweet spot where the temperature is a little cooler. I am sure if he tries to reduce the heat to the fan he will be successful.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@arlenewolf5260 using a paint lid can act like a heat shield as they will not be as hot as the air under them. ☺️ also it will take the fan off the grate and also help raise the fan into the sweet spot. ☺️

  • @rogersjourney
    @rogersjourney ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I have my stove fan sitting on a grate attached right above the top of the protective cage of the big buddy (you can see my set up at my TH-cam channel). Pursuant to watching this video and your analysis, I used my laser thermometer to measure the temperature at the the base of my stove fan. This is a Big Buddy Heater, on the highest setting, and it had been running for nearly three hours at that setting (with the stove fan). The temperature at the base of the stove fan is between 350-360 degrees F. I then measured the temperature near the wires, fan heat sink etc., and that was like 280 -284 degrees F. I'm just not getting the high temperature readings you report. Not doubting you, certainly not trying to argue. Your report and analysis is worth consideration. Thus the reason I did my own testing/measuring. But, I'm just getting different data, and having a different experience. No fan failures, no wire melting. Just a good a heater and stove fan combo that appears to work very well. And it seems to be operating within specified temperature range. My 2 cents... 🙏

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you for your inciteful comment. It also caused me to rethink things and I understand the difference in our data. You stated that you use a grate on top of the grate connected. I didn't. I sat mine on the grate from the factory. The grate that you were using should have been stainless steel as it dissipates heat much better than most other common metals (It would act like a heat shield). I would ask that you temp the black grate under yours and you should get results similar to mine as that is where my fan was resting with nothing between it and the heater. I will have to try the grate concept as it seems to work. Thank you. :-)

    • @Bush63Master
      @Bush63Master ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnwilliams7473 you can get a paint roller strainer for a few bucks at the local hardware store, and although it isn't stainless steel should hold up fine. The smaller strainer for the little buddy and the full size for the big buddy. An inch or 2 above the grill makes a huge difference, and I also question the wiring choices of that fan manufacturer.

    • @leejackson4671
      @leejackson4671 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey what I would have done is get a bracket and set it for her in the back not right over the stove where the fan was just blow across the top of not sitting directly

  • @akoww1000
    @akoww1000 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Back in the 80s, my grandpa used a wood stove fan on his gas heater. It spins from the heat. Now it didn't go fast but it would send heat across the room.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      That was way I bought the fan originally. Although I had never used the heater before assembling the way I saw in the videos I had seen on you tube. Yea it didn’t work that way. Lol. But it is hot enough that I just put a regular fan. 😀

  • @huntsman1771
    @huntsman1771 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I've used both the big buddy and little buddy for heat in camper trailers. The best fan setup I've come up with is to place the fan about three feet above the heater and tilted at a 45 degree angle so it pushes the heat down and circulates it around the room.

  • @riobluetube
    @riobluetube ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just used them together today during the artic blast. Lost power and was freezing. Worked like a champ.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea the ambient temperature of the room has a lot to do with the temp at the grill. I didn’t notice that but upon watching the videos again no one was doing it in a semi warm room. All colder rooms.

    • @charlespatterson9138
      @charlespatterson9138 ปีที่แล้ว

      damn iv been running mine together for mo ths no problems i run my.heater buddy about at medium but now ya got me.wprried lol i dont want to ruin my fan but id have to admit.i wouldnt find the hester buddy very usefull without one strapped to the front grill

  • @jimsox881
    @jimsox881 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Living in my truck part time over the last couple winters . Best bet is to work overnight shift and sleep during the day . ( Sunlight/less hassles) But when needed I've used my Lil Buddy w/ a 6" USB charged fan on low . Works wonders.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry to hear that. Although that does sound like a good idea.

  • @marinigrey4913
    @marinigrey4913 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.. THIS COULD OF STARTED A FIRE IF YOU WEREN'T ON TOP OF THIS.. IF NOT A FIRE REAL SMELLY BURNING WIRE PLASTIC COULD OF DRIPPED INTO YOU HEATER. THAT COULD OF BEEN BAD PLASTIC FUMES THAT NO ONE SHOULD BE BREATHING... GREAT EXPERIMENT....

  • @dontall71
    @dontall71 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    On the channel Riverside Homestead Life, 3 Things You Didn't Know About Your Mr. Buddy Heater, the guy used an inverted paint roller grid to form a platform for a cooking pot. This setup may put your fan in a better position. The only drawback that I saw was the grid potentially getting hot enough to melt the Mr. Buddy carry handle. You may have to find a better way of attaching the grid.

    • @mrtaz85
      @mrtaz85 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! I had a pan from a toaster oven attached to my handle and within about 10 min I noticed smoke in the room and it was my handle melting, the handle must be down so the heat won't get to it.

    • @gianna01michelle
      @gianna01michelle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts as well when was watching the video your talking about. The larger size buddy heater has a built-in fan that can run on batteries or a plug in converter from Mr heater.

    • @AprilLee021967
      @AprilLee021967 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gianna01michelle they quit making them with the fan.

  • @koinkollector2873
    @koinkollector2873 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We used the big buddy for about 4 years while living in our rv. We used 100lb tanks(outside) and then used a regular dollar store box fan on low to spread the heat. Great little heater.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes it is amazing and very strong heater.

    • @djfglobal3377
      @djfglobal3377 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m thinking of using this to heat my high roof transit - seems like you think it’s safe to use in an enclosed space?
      Thanks

  • @deanjollow2892
    @deanjollow2892 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My big buddy has an onboard fan,works perfect. It’s -32 here right now, Alberta Canada, December 20th. It’s a good unit if the power were to go out.

  • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
    @DanHiteshew-oneandonly ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My fan is what makes my Buddy work so well. Been using it for years.
    I wrapped the wires in foil, and use it on low. (it works fine on high too but it's too hot for me)

  • @Astro_touches_children
    @Astro_touches_children ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I zip tied a paint grid to the handle, adjusted to the proper angle and wired the fan to the grid. It works great.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes the added height and the metal to shield some of the heat should work better. The grate provided didn’t work out so well. Lol.

  • @yepyepuhhuh
    @yepyepuhhuh ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the honesty and PSA.

  • @kennethvincentministries4596
    @kennethvincentministries4596 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you made this video. I just ordered a stove fan for my little buddy.

  • @Kodikat2
    @Kodikat2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the information it sounds like you have prevented a lot of troubles for other people so all in all this certainly is a win

  • @adventurefuel5172
    @adventurefuel5172 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have that exact fan, and use it with my buddy and it works great. You need to raise it and move it back so it doesn’t get as direct and the fan blows air through the heat stream. I built a support from a coat hanger. Also, if the fan warms up too much, the heat differential that makes the electricity won’t be sufficient and the fan will stop. It takes some “field engineering” to get it to run consistently. Don’t give up.

  • @louisguthrie7286
    @louisguthrie7286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the information. The comments let me know that I can still use the fan on my little buddy with the grate turned upside down. Still a great heat source in my 23 foot travel trailer.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep the added distance from the unit should keep the fan cool.

  • @donnaw9040
    @donnaw9040 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your honesty!! Thanks for the vid, very useful!

  • @davidphillips2541
    @davidphillips2541 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use the fan blower that is built into the Mr Buddy. It takes 4 D batteries and it works great.

  • @JoeRetail
    @JoeRetail ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this video. I confirm that his is great advice. Too late for me. Like you, I didn't test the temp until I had a problem. My Dyna-Glo Grab 'n Go 18K's temperature at the grate above the heat was way over 775°. I had no idea that it was that hot.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Sometimes I don’t know if the company changes something or if they had something that I didn’t see. (I saw them put the fan on the grate and it worked on low.) thank you for watching and sorry to hear about your issue too. 🤗

  • @starpartyguy5605
    @starpartyguy5605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the little buddy. No fan. I have a Marmot Halo 6. I run the heater on a metal camping table long enough to undress and climb into the sleeping bag. I don’t run it when I’m sleeping. In the morning I run the heater to take a bucket bath. Works pretty well.

  • @danielmeecham464
    @danielmeecham464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Sir!
    I just picked both of the same items and put the fan on only for a few minutes. I may make a small rack mount for the fan though after I more closely observe the operating temperatures.
    Great video!

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just be aware as the operating temperatures are extremely close. Close enough that ambient air can make the difference between in tolerance and over heating. ☺️ have a wonderful day.

  • @Minnross1
    @Minnross1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You! the fan almost immediately broke on my big buddy heater and I was going to pull the trigger on a stove fan. Glad I saw this

  • @JimVincitore
    @JimVincitore ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Very cool! THANK YOU!

  • @richb2124
    @richb2124 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video. I just bought one and ordered a fan just like it. Good to know it’s to hot for it. Thanks!

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your welcome and I just got a regular fan. As I know it defeats the purpose it works wonders.

    • @christinemoretto3405
      @christinemoretto3405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnwilliams7473 do you have a link to buy the same fan you just bought? Thank you

  • @dougblalock5175
    @dougblalock5175 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video! I just ordered a replacement rear panel with the fan and it works perfect. I also use the 12 volt adapter to save the batteries.

  • @johnh.nickels3832
    @johnh.nickels3832 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd take it apart and try to repair, solder the wires back in place and check the motor resistance with a meter to see if the motor shorted.

  • @bkkuntree3922
    @bkkuntree3922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought one of these fans for my big buddy. I haven't had any problems. 2nd winter running it. So far so good.

  • @mr.dennisalvarez9523
    @mr.dennisalvarez9523 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, this information is vital to my planning. Thanks to Einstein learn from not just your mistakes but the mistakes of others. Stay blessed. Thanks again.

  • @lindadgarcia8953
    @lindadgarcia8953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, thank you for sharing your experience. I have thinking of getting a fan for my little buddy. But with your great insight, I will wait for my big buddy. Thank you & God bless you in Jesus Name. 🤗🙂

  • @jfreeman343
    @jfreeman343 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for experimenting and sharing this. I might make and affix a coathanger wire cage platform with needlenose pliers, so that the fan base would be secured a distance above the grill. Would have to test for the sweet spot of height. For cost and longevity, I'm torn between buying lithium ion D-cell rechargeables and a good stove fan. I don't know how long the fans last until they're distorted or fried.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have placed a fan behind it on a box. The normal fan works great and is much stronger then the stove fan is. Also, the big buddy puts out enough heat that on high for both I feel the warm breeze over 8 feet away. (As a breeze!)

  • @Infowarrior-45
    @Infowarrior-45 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could sit a couple of cap blocks on each side of the Buddy Heater, and sit a metal grid between the cap blocks, to raise the fan up high enough to eliminate overheating.

  • @lunabeta3516
    @lunabeta3516 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my little fan. Bought it and use it for my stove. The directions literally say not to use it with Temps over 600. Maybe yours had no instructions.
    Appreciate all your input..along with all the comments con the fan. Always learning here..ty

  • @mikefruzen3351
    @mikefruzen3351 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Was going to buy fan until I saw . Good job

  • @billb3374
    @billb3374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been running the fan on top of a buddy heater and the big buddy. I have had no issues. I used a couple of butter knives to make a bracket and two paper clips to hold it in place.

  • @thurm101
    @thurm101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lil buddy heater. I love mine. I use it mainly for garage. But have it in case of emergency power outage. Great heater.

  • @wayneelliott9523
    @wayneelliott9523 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, and very well-spoken.

  • @CryptoGuru369
    @CryptoGuru369 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @JP-lq7wi
    @JP-lq7wi ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As others stated, positioning your fan 1-2” further back where the wires aren’t exposed to the direct updraft will solve the problem. The plastic handle doesn’t melt, nor will your fan wires if they are closer to it. I have a $20 amazon fan on mine that’s just fine.

  • @vals8062
    @vals8062 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Little buddy works great with the stove fan you just have to run it on low. I use a temp lazer gun to check on temp and it runs about 475F. On low.

  • @dadandlokiinthewoods8806
    @dadandlokiinthewoods8806 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my big buddy heater. 18000 btu, u can't go wrong..

  • @Coopdundee
    @Coopdundee ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine did the same thing you quit on my little buddy work for a week or so? Thanks for the good video.

  • @DukeEastway
    @DukeEastway ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been running a PORTABLE Buddy heater (the small one) for 2 1 lb canisters with the exact fan you have. No problems at all. I put the thermometer on tonight (for the first time) and the temp never got above 550.

  • @Shrubfan
    @Shrubfan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have run my stove fan for hours and hours without failure.

  • @jons2447
    @jons2447 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello, "John";
    I wish you had included links.
    I'd like to try the fans in a different configuration.
    BTW, I trust you, to a degree.
    It doesn't look like you're trying to take advantage, it looks like you're trying to warn others.
    So I feel you are trustworthy enough for me to listen to you.
    Nevertheless, I would like to try a configuration w/ the fans on a paint roller tray accessory.
    Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your kind words. The idea of the paint tray should work as it will allow it to be higher and have another medium to shield the heat. On low it only needs to deflect about 50 degrees which can be done by most metals. Have a wonderful day.

  • @dennislandstrom6904
    @dennislandstrom6904 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have run this setup for 2 winters in the house. the fan base sits on the second from top crossbar of little buddies front grille in the "sweet" spot. occasionaly run on high setting with zero problems . I run a dehumidifier to control the moisture emission.

  • @hauntastic158
    @hauntastic158 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this information!!

  • @TheCleaner6969
    @TheCleaner6969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing your experience I was thinking of getting a fan & inspite of reading through the comments as usual people always have opinions & different points of view or ideas. They all know everything but know nothing. We all learn by mistakes. The fact is someone thought of this idea & others ran with it. The manufacturer I'm sure is aware of what people are doing & imo would make something as they did with the 20lb hose that doesn't need a filter. I do not trust a backwoods bush fix after seeing this as the commenters are not engineers & did not have it tested for safety so I would strongly air on the side of caution as it's not their loss of something bad happens.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I researched the hose for the 20ib tank and even called the mfg Mr Heater. That is a Mr Heater brand hose and they use a proprietary rubber that causes the oil not to separate from the rubber. This eliminates the most common cause of heater failure. Thus they state it doesn’t need a filter with there hose. I am still thinking of picking one up as I believe it’s a good idea. But they say it isn’t truly needed with their hose.

    • @TheCleaner6969
      @TheCleaner6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnwilliams7473 You are correct. Another thing you can do is buy a 20lb tank & refill your 1lb bottles with a special adpater.

  • @bartmitcham9697
    @bartmitcham9697 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Safety first! Thanks for the video. As an aviator, I know how important it is to stay within the manufacture's recommended operating procedures. Plus when you start modifying anything to do with safety, you don't know what limits you have placed on other components. No way am I going to sleep in my camper with anything that might catch fire.

  • @sifilmaker
    @sifilmaker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People have modified the heater by creating a stand so these fans are at a distance where they wont burn up. Ive been using buddy heaters for many years and have several of them. They are great heaters, but I have always used them on the lowest setting. They get really hot and will heat up an area pretty quick.

  • @michaelfredt573
    @michaelfredt573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your video, thanks.

  • @brucefrazier9051
    @brucefrazier9051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the hype also, bought single and dual fan to try both, heat was deflected to grill below handle. I caught it before it became catastrophic. Too bad we can't share pics in comments. RV life !!

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea and once I saw the air displacement of the heat fan I decided that it wasn't worth it. (I bought two) Welcome to the life. :)

  • @jonlennon1973
    @jonlennon1973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well your video definitely saved me $35 because I would have blown the first fan as well but now I have a great idea on what to do and I'll post it later on when I get it done

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I am much. Happier with the desk fan as it is much stronger then the stove fan.

    • @kellycollins5442
      @kellycollins5442 ปีที่แล้ว

      This dumbass wasn't using a " woodstove" fan that everyone is talking about. They are all steel no wires. You can't fix stupid!!!

  • @campingtips-n-tricks
    @campingtips-n-tricks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We like to use a “clip on fan” on the handle to help,circulate heat.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am currently using a desk fan on a box behind it and it works wonderfully.

    • @christinemoretto3405
      @christinemoretto3405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven’t bought any fan yet, is your clip on a battery operated? Do you have a link or a pic of it attached? Thanks, I just got my big buddy and still need the fan.

  • @dadandlokiinthewoods8806
    @dadandlokiinthewoods8806 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use this heater to heat my 9x7 tent in 15 degree weather alot. If u want to use the fan, use commercial d battery's. I get them free at work

  • @kevinbentley8794
    @kevinbentley8794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the information sir.

  • @noleftturns
    @noleftturns ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this - I was about to buy a stove fan and will not now for safety reasons!

  • @donnabryson7145
    @donnabryson7145 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the information!

  • @veritasjustus8543
    @veritasjustus8543 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You could use a cheap bbq grill and some hose clamps in your handle.

  • @TheBloodBoughtServant
    @TheBloodBoughtServant ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have a small fan created to actually withstand this type of heat. Wood stove stores sell them.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      You know that is a wood stove fan…. And no a wood stove doesn’t normally get to 700 degrees. Thank you for your comment.

  • @WVRelicmetalDetecting
    @WVRelicmetalDetecting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the info. Trial and error. 👍

  • @leadslinger49
    @leadslinger49 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are a lot of different wood stove fans available. I have a single fan for my little buddy heater. With so many fans available there must be variances.

  • @mikeemrich3981
    @mikeemrich3981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rewire the fan as another video. It would make a good teaching moment.

  • @jerryrussell2600
    @jerryrussell2600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To use the heater to heat water or cook food, use a tripod like the kind used on an outdoor camping firepit.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well. I’ll have to pick up one of those. 😀😃

  • @Tsch6373
    @Tsch6373 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A small ceiling fan will bring the heat from the ceiling down to the living space of a travel trailer. Paid $20 for the one I have have from Amazon. Works by USB and has an inline switch.
    Positioned my fan (like yours) on my Little Buddy but there's too much heat rising from the heater to be effective without damage to the fan.
    I did use the heat-driven fan atop a 3-candle chandelier. The fan started just fine but, there wasn't enough heat rising from the front of the set-up.
    Insta-fire has a stove/heater combo using the heat-driven fan that works very well. It burns canned fuel. I tested the heater with a 2-hour fuel can. Pleased with the results. This combination is designed very well.

  • @14DFASniper
    @14DFASniper ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you Sir. I saw the same things on youtube and was going to make the same mistake. Thanks for sharing! I'm going to put on a griddle plate to shield the fan and give that a try - maybe offset it a bit or something. I'm willing to take that risk and will monitor. But I truely appreciate you sharing this. Also subscribed. All the best to you!

    • @iiinsaiii
      @iiinsaiii ปีที่แล้ว

      I done it for a few years now with two Mr Buddy Flex with one an issue.

  • @rawknbearbell7032
    @rawknbearbell7032 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The set up works for me man, low setting, fan situated a little further away from heat grate...flawless dozens of times now. My fan is a single blade model though.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m guessing the distance helped. I know siting on the provided grate is not the answer.😂😅 but I will get a painting grate and try again in a a week with different higher temp fan.

    • @rawknbearbell7032
      @rawknbearbell7032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnwilliams7473 good luck man, it's subtle but it does make a difference. Those little fans help push the heat forward a bit instead of straight up.

  • @JamesTheAxeThrower
    @JamesTheAxeThrower ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve been running my stove fan on top of my big buddy on high for 8 hours+ a day for a few weeks now with no problems you should try and get a replacement fan sent out to you! Also I have two individual fans instead of a double unit so there is space in between the two of them so there is much less chance of overheating! My fans were only rated for 650 F and they do fine so it could definitely be that your specific fan was manufactured poorly.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it has more to do with the area that it’s in. In my kitchen where I test even the off side of the big buddy gets radiant heat level of 650 after running for 15 minutes. I tested it out in my camper (starting temperature of below 50) and it would get to 600. (It was at 600 while filming because the room was around 45 degrees.) I believe if I had it in a colder room (my kitchen started at around 68 degrees) I could use the off side radiant heat to power it but then it runs into in-efficient. I ended up settling for running power and placing a small 10” desk fan behind it. The desk fan is much stronger and I don’t have to worry about over heating. Also I can run the big buddy on high and the fan on high and push hot air over 15 feet away. The stove fan was debatable if it would push the air 3 feet.

    • @veritasjustus8543
      @veritasjustus8543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We put ours on a ceramic tile, o. the kitchen counter in our rv directly below the intake for the climate control fan...it heats the whole rv....then we put the pilot on and maintain the heat turning it back on every few hours.
      Yes we use the electricity of the blower intake but not for long...works better than the stick furnace this is on a brand new Bullet 36ft 2 bed 2 bath.Tried a smaller desk fan but the blower works way better in distribution and I can point the exhaust vents whatever direction I want all throuought the ceiling. If you have a furnace on board...may want to try that

  • @leopoldsamsonite1750
    @leopoldsamsonite1750 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information, ty.

  • @bobstover2239
    @bobstover2239 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the information,,,!

  • @helidude3502
    @helidude3502 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While it should be obvious, it’s something I haven’t considered.
    Our home was converted to electric heat a few years ago.
    I purchased 3 of these buddy heaters as backup units so we don’t freeze to death with a power failure.
    I recently added a larger natural gas heater.
    You saved me some money X4 and the potential safety hazard.
    Thank you 👍😎

  • @happytrails7835
    @happytrails7835 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Big Buddy heater can be purchased with an internal fan included. They stopped selling these for a while, but they are available again. I purchased one from Sam’s Club a few months ago. It came with an adapter for fan, but the fan can be used with D batteries as well. I’ve seen them at Tractor Supply too.

    • @larcoal2963
      @larcoal2963 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They stopped including the fan back in 2022. It will still fit, just a separate purchase, or use from an older, broken unit.

  • @shelbyandmargaret
    @shelbyandmargaret ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video.
    Isn't it unsafe to have a propane tank indoors?
    We have used the
    Mr. Heater/ Buddy Heaters for more than five years and over this time we've discovered the different variations of the
    Mr. Heaters.
    Very recently we discovered the stove fan on TH-cam.
    We too were very excited to hear about a fan that will help distribute heat and operates on the heat from our Mr. Heater. We have the simple one fan with stand, no engine, no electricity required. We're very happy, more comfortable with less use of propane and looking forward to saving some money this winter with the help of the stove fan.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and no it's not really dangerous as the hose puts it 6 feet away and when the green takes are on, they are much closer. The stove fans are a good idea although for the trouble I would just use a desk fan as the heater itself is amazingly warm. Have a wonderful day. :)

  • @slippingaway4287
    @slippingaway4287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have been using this setup for 2 years now. I cut a notch in the fan base so that I can hang the fan on the cage.

  • @neddmoulton1
    @neddmoulton1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I put my screen up in the so called cooking position and put a 1.5 inch thick 4x4 metal plate and fan on that and it runs fine for hours at a time and for the last 3 months no issues. I did it this way thisnking of a wood stove and affraid of melting the wires. So far so good

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea anything to reduce or shield from the heat should work well.

  • @chadpm11
    @chadpm11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Made a 2 layer heat shield with an air gap between them for my big buddy and put a 2 fan one on top works just like on my wood stove & no overheating.

  • @bobstover2239
    @bobstover2239 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job!

  • @DavidHaney1
    @DavidHaney1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have all 3 sizes, including the big pro model with a built-in fan. I like the simplicity of design of each unit size and didn't want to deal with an external fan hack. The big pro buddy has a fan and a simple on & off toggle switch. The small & medium size versions don't have a fan, but honestly don't need one, plus dealing with an external fan hack is too much of a pain in the ass.

  • @shawnklatt3858
    @shawnklatt3858 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got one and it works great

  • @sjberden
    @sjberden ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I put a paint scrubber for a 5 gallon bucket on top of my buddy heater and I set the fan on top of it. I've used it all dear season on high at 1st and then I put it on low and it works fine. Check into a different kind of a fan that does not have wires.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea something to work as a heat shield to reduce direct heat. Thanks a great idea.

  • @ssharp9890
    @ssharp9890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the insight! I will be more diligent with where I place a fan.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      I now use a desk fan. The heater gets so hot that the desk fan on low and on high will blow warm air around the room.

  • @lakerdigital
    @lakerdigital ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to know.
    I have the same heater. I went on TH-cam and watched other vids about this heater and the fans. Nobody has mentioned this.

  • @davidpiney
    @davidpiney ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you saying that your experiment revealed that the thermal fans alleging electrical generation was in fact a fake? I'm grateful for your effort. Thank you.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Thermo heat generation is a very real thing. It’s just that stove fans max is around 660 and the min on the grate is right at 700 in 60 degree room. This will cause the fan to over heat after 15 to 20 minutes.

  • @scottreddick9733
    @scottreddick9733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you friend!

  • @tomgreene4062
    @tomgreene4062 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can use a paint grid hooked on the handle and you can move the fan around to keep it from getting too hot.

  • @shawndale3951
    @shawndale3951 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Need to use the all metal ones that can sit on top of wood stoves using aluminum paint tray and hang it from the handle so it's sitting above the Heat works great

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe the extra space and the aluminum tray actually helps to releave some heat. I will have to try that.

    • @shawndale3951
      @shawndale3951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      10-4 it will work great for you. And thanks for commenting back!

  • @uncleallen09
    @uncleallen09 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info

  • @dsmith2858
    @dsmith2858 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would love to see a closeup on how/where exactly you had your fan attached/mounted.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Next to highest grate on the side that is on. Using the highest grate to hold up the fan.

    • @dsmith2858
      @dsmith2858 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnwilliams7473 I did watch one vid (the only one I could find) where the guy cut his notch in the front edge of his fan. That allowed the back edge of his fan to rest on the red part of the heater (less hot). I liked this positioning as my concern was for the wiring and melting potential. This positioning set the fan back farther and the back of the fan was out of the direct line of the rising heated air.

  • @dazie1357
    @dazie1357 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put a regular fan behind my big Buddy heater & it works good warming up my big open floor plan house

  • @robertpalmer7296
    @robertpalmer7296 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think it would be possible to come up with some kind of heat sink shelf that would allow you to use the fan? You could mount it in the same way people use the grate to cook on and maybe construct it out of aluminum and silicone.

  • @walleyeye
    @walleyeye 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u for your video!!!
    There are SO many problems with Mr. Heater heaters of different types.
    I have the Mr. Heater double sunflower heater and it almost burned down a brand newly build shed because flames started coming out four feet high from the burner. They replaced it on waranty but since then I’ve seen so many videos on the buddy heaters and sunflower heaters and all their issues it sure makes me wonder how they dont redesign these things.
    They never did tell me what was wrong with the one i sent back and that doesnt make me confident in their product.

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sorry to hear that you had issues with yours. I know that my issue is that it got to hot for the stove fan. (Not an issue of design just issue of purpose.) I hope that your new heater works well for you . (Honestly, a heater that gets too hot for other things is a great "problem" to have.) But to catch fire is an issue.

  • @cofee28
    @cofee28 ปีที่แล้ว

    Number 1 rule is to buy a good stove fan. I have had no issues with mine.

  • @paulpetty3331
    @paulpetty3331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video,just subed

  • @johncramer9564
    @johncramer9564 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just use a battery operated fan located behind the heater which blows the rising hot air around the room. On low setting my fan lasts 2 days on battery, and no heat issues because it's not above the stove but behind it.

  • @Owen4it
    @Owen4it ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this... been thinking of getting one of those fans and now I'll have to check the heat limit! Can you use a deflector or insulation rather than mass to lower the temperature? How about an aluminum tube sideways maybe 4"x4" about 6" long? Thanks

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s a good idea. Although I wouldn’t use the tube to reduce heat to the fan. I would place a small computer fan in the tube and use it as a pipe furnace heating the air in the pipe then using the pipe to heat the air.
      I have trouble envisioning how to deflect the heat to a useable point as even the off side of my Mr Heater was only 25 degrees from max @ 15 minutes.

  • @jimbuckley4986
    @jimbuckley4986 ปีที่แล้ว

    We use a paint roller screen from Home Depot turn it upside down and hook on the handle. Works great

  • @akbauer2525
    @akbauer2525 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was thinking of getting one of those fans. Now I know not to. Thanks John!

  • @maggiepennington5583
    @maggiepennington5583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir for the information I got both in hopes it would work but now I know they don’t.

  • @petefarley9303
    @petefarley9303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the fan cools it will work again What I did was take a painters screen that fits in a 5 gal bucket normally an put the hooks on the screen under the handle witch makes a platformand move the fan out to almost the end and the fan didn’t stop because it is not over direct heat coming up from the stove

    • @johnwilliams7473
      @johnwilliams7473  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea that should work stunningly.

    • @digsafe4661
      @digsafe4661 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used the painters screen to heat foil wrapped food up as well while ice fishing.

  • @DaBinChe
    @DaBinChe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use a stove fan on my little buddy and it works great. Have gone thru several 20lbs. propane tanks with no issues. You have to be mindful of placement of fan...your's is too close and forward. I use an A frame clamps to hold the fan in place.