one bit to the Urbie k9, it is fairly cheap for a hero mech, can be purchased from the beginning and is a source for dhs and Uac5 before they are a thing. So Buy dismantle sell.
The Javelins are bloody God-tier for your AI crew. Never again lose precious C-Bills having to replace weapons because of the AI as they have no arm-mounted weaponry. Whether its the M-Laser or SRM version, they also do very good damage. Plus… that goddamn swagger they have when running around the warzone makes them an absolute delight to watch. 😅
People should also keep in mind, these are just stock loadouts, which you're virtually never going to keep intact. And unfortunately MW5 has a bizarre system where hardpoints have "sizes". A lot of builds are just impossible.
MW5 is unplayable without mods, particularly Yet Another Mech Lab(known in the community as YAML), which adds MWO style modifications, removing hardpoint sizes, adding engines. If you like the MWO-style mech lab, you need to grab YAML for MW5.
@Shadowburn2 do any of the dlcs fix this for console players. I've got the heroes one already. This game is so addictive I was thrown off by early reviews even though I loved mw2 and mw2 back in the day. Which I had a gaming pc rig. Never wanted to play mods so much in my life lol. Also does anyone play this for the story/read all the news lore
If and when you do mediums, the BLJ-A The Arrow, with six machine guns, deletes even assault mechs incredibly fast. Nothing funnier than ripping Comstar assault lances to shreds with six machine guns.
I keep seeing people swear by machine gun spam but to me it's not that amazing? It's alright but I have to be up in their face and time to kill isn't like spectacular so I always end up trading more damage than I would like compare to other weapon setups I employ.
I agree the hero blackjack with high tier machine guns and no jump engines so you can have more armour is awesome...for those who don't like the short range of the mg...remember let your lance mates start the fight, run round behind the target and delete them in seconds..I always get this mech on my playthroughs and now with solaris arena fights it really pays for itself :-)
As a light mech enthusiast I disagree about half of your choices, especially on the large energy hardpoint ones, thanks to the addition of PPC-X these bad boys can do some serious work, in fact I've done full campaign runs with 4 lights and 1 ppc x and we never even lost the weapon let alone the fight, I'd put them in high A tier maybe S. Also since you don't have mods, you don't know which mechs come with endo steel or xl engines etc.
I think this tier list is made from the perspective of using lights as sluggers, which only really works out in very early game when facing only other lights. All that goes out of the window fairly quickly though once you are looking at 200+ ton drops with a light mech lance. All that matters at this point is how much firepower you can unload into the rear of the enemy, and how good your evasion is if you are anywhere else than behind them.
Depends, do you have YAML? Absolutely, I give the AI javelins and an archer and the only problem I have is that they core literally everything in a few min. Vanilla? Nah man. There just isn't enough customization to make most mechs viable.
I remember having a lot of fun with 8 flamers on the firestarter A. Then again, I only ever started using light mechs just to rush down those damn artillery positions on most maps ._.
This might have been patched by now I remember hearing that flamers were incredibly OP compared to how they are in other games where they verge on totally useless.
@@lordsysop MW5 is better on modern hardware; MWO only runs well on 10 year old computers because of it's ancient CryEngine game engine which the devs are unable to update as support for it was dropped sometime in 2015 as Crytek went belly up. MWO has a loading screen memory leak which after 3 or 4 missions crashes late generation GTX cards (800 series onwards) for some reason the memory leak doesn't effect RTX chips as they use a different architecture to GTX. MWO only runs well on AMD hardware, one of the few games which does, but mainly because of how old the engine is. MWO has way more mech customisation, such as decals, cockpit accessories, attachments and the almost complete library of mechs from the setting up till 3087. MW5 has melee combat. Graphics are roughly the same, MWO has more detailed cockpits with cockpit data screens; Though MW5 supports ray tracing, also PGI has no idea how to correctly set up Unreal Engine, so to stop MW5 toasting your GPU make sure to turn on V-Sync because it will max out your GPU in the menus and in out of mech scenes without it. MWO is a free to play multiplayer only service game with a similar monetisation system to Warframe which is 13 years old at this point, it's combat system is very arcade like with ghost heat, nerfed Electronic Warfare, LRMs and Gauss; The game is so old that it is hard for new players to enjoy the game because they get clowned on by people who have been playing for over 12 years who have everything min/maxed. MW5 is a co-op/singleplayer game set between 3015 and 3050, as the game campaign progresses, lostech goes from being rare to being common and as the years tick by new mechs and technologies start showing up, such as the Commando 1B and the Raven, it is a sort of real time simulation of Battletech which is mostly unscripted with the map changing over the course of the story as new factions rise and the great houses swap control over territory during the late stage 3rd succession war. The DLC covers the 4th succession war and other major events. Unlike MWO which has multiple gameplay issues, MW5 feels very much like MW4 combat wise, except without all the jank, also, no ghost heat.
"S tier light will die to any tier assault" good for a chuckle but cant help but stare at MWO and watch assault players get bullied by lights on a daily
In the early game, I love getting one or two Fleas to replace Locusts. I put SB Lasers on and the AI works well with them. Getting your pilots over 2 in Maneuvering helps a ton.
Aside from hardpoints, which I think are only really important if you plan on piloting the mech yourself, speed and profile have a huge impact on how often you get hit. Where the Locust is usually fast enough to avoid being targeted the Flea and Commando get hit a lot more often. I switched my Jenner with a Panther for arena missions and the Panther gets chewed up a lot more. The arena missions change things for lights. Flamers have the shortest range but deal good dmage and seem to be pretty good at causing your targets to shut down. MGs in large numbers deal silly amounts of damage but also have very short range. Try going into arena missions with tricked out Firestarters. In addition the EMC Firestarters are straight upgrades to the 9A. A good AMS will eat SRMs and the black market EMS significantly reduces enemy accuracy.
8 machine gunz and 130kph, is deadly in the right hands. 130 you say? Yes because of the upgrades. And if you are counting hero mechs, you then have to account for upgrades as well. And the right upgrades, in the right hands, makes all the difference. Edit: love the effort, love the continued excitement for big stompy robots, love the channel(subbed), and let's go access to clan tech.
"An S tier light isn't going to be able to kill an assault". I haven't played since kestrel lancers so I dunno if it got nerfed but firestarter was my dedicated anti assault mech. I literally went through the entire lancer campaign piloting the firestarter
I know it’s a lot of work, but I actually liked this a lot. I like different stuff than you, but I find this an interesting challenge to my own opinions of each of these Mechs :)
I just spent two days binging Mechwarrior content to get some context of what you're saying. And I've decided that, when I install the game later this week, I'll just use your tierlist as a keep/sell checklist. :v
Note the SDR-5D can fit a Large Laser, with difficulty. I suck piloting Spiders myself, but I found if I equip one with jump jet upgrades, AI pilots with good Maneuvering levels can be quite effective with them.
Flea fan here! Besides the early lore variants ( * cough * F-4 ) its a menace! Its the bit slower but more firepowered cousin of the Locust which I also love. Raven and Firestarter are my 3rd and 4th chouce😁
Maybe it’s a different case on the higher difficulty. But I love taking my flea-15 out with my ai pilots on assault and heavy mechs. I can make up for a lot of tonnage with the good damage it can put out.
Nope that FS9-X1 is much better than that. It doesn't have to be 8MGs, I play it 6MGs, 2Light rifles. Works great. Almost no heat buildup, very sufficient firepower and it's faster than any other FS9. Its on par with A variant if not better.
I just found your Tier List videos and they're really useful. Cheers TTB. Not happy that you kicked our arses in the last comp though... Mercu [Redcoats Expendables]
With the "new" Solaris Arena missions this is especially useful. i love "4 vs 4" light and "team" light mech missions. But i have to disagree with the Panther sorting. midgame you dont field light mechs at all (aside from Arena fights) but early game Panther 9R is my light mech and tank killer. A Tier if not S Tier. Ravens are a thing? By the time i see one in a run, i am already in late mid game to early late game. which means the only use for them would be in arena fights... and there they look like locust replacement at best. But looks like i should give the Solaris Urbi a try and the wolfhound when i see them in my current run. You have a short vid for Vanilla light mech lances for the arena? what would you field, what mech would you personally control and what mechs work best in the hands of the AI?
Thanks for the video; I'd love to see the same thing for the other mech classes! Is there a reason you didn't use Tiermaker for this though? There might even be icon sets for the mechs already uploaded by other users.
If you actually read their terms of service you would not use Tierlistmaker. You're basically giving them license to use you or your brand for free perpetually. Hell no.
i think the light mechs are there as specialists. in normal fights they suck, but you only use them for certain stuff. i use the firestarters in missions, where i can destroy buildings artillery and stuff very fast to reduce damage done to my lance. so in this the machine guns are ok. i used it for the mission, where you get the hero king crab for example, because in any slower mechs my lance took too much damage before the artillery fire stopped and you could actually reduce the enemy numbers.
I've recently started playing the game and found this video (and comments) extremely helpful. Are you planning on doing another video covering Medium, Heavy.. etc?
Im Adding a D tier All Comandos are D Tier Even the Hero Comando All Fleas are D tier All Ravens are D tier As a Utility they are C Tier All Locusts are C Tier even the Hero version (Yes they are better than Commandos ) All Spiders are C Tier even the Hero The JuMp Kets is Crucial to their movement taking them out hurts them . Urban are D Tier unless you can put Jump Jets on them . All Javelins are A Tier and Hero Javelin is S tier. All Fire Starters are B Tier and the Hero is A tier 2 Machine guns equals a 1 AC 2 just so you know In Mechwarrior 5 Mercs . 4 MGs is 2 AC 2s at the fraction of Tonnage . Yes the Down side is range BUT no Heat. Merc 5 doesn't know the Different of Damage types It treats all DMG types the same just strait HPS. Jenners are B Tier after a refit . Jenners stock are a C tier . The Hero is C tier its a bad hero mech. All Pather's are D Tier they are slow and have a High Hit Profile rating for a Light mech. Advantage of a Light Mech is suppose to be hard to hit. The Panther is Easy to hit.
It's a nice vid. As a new player though, It is important to know WHY you put a mech in a particular bracket. I understand that it would be incredibly complicated to explain. I will kook elsewhere. Thanks.
It's all about burst or sustained firepower and the ability to destroy enemy mechs. Speed, maneuverability etc. does not matter as you're playing against AI all the time and they hit or miss based on dice rolls.
@@TTBprime Those dice rolls heavily depend on angular velocity though, and to a lesser extend on absolute velocity. Your AI lance mates make very good use of this fact as well, one of the things (or maybe even the only thing) PGI really did nail with the AI is circling. Don't sleep on the LCT-1E, that is one hell of a light mech if used right, I'll gladly take one over anything you have in your S-tier to be honest. Same applies to the JR7-D, though I'd never rip out the SRMs, that is a huge portion of the firepower. Removing one jump jet from the stock configuration for some extra arms armor makes sense though, otherwise it is fine as it is.
It's really biased, it's like he doesn't know what he's talking about (even though he plays a lot). For example getting rid of jump jets straight away is a really assault-only-player thing to do.
What a stupid tier list, you should be considering the overall effectiveness for various tasks. Jump jets are mandatory on light mechs for evasion, gap closing, getting in and out of cover... For example you can trivialize raid and demolition missions with a single mech like the firestarter E with MGs, jump jets and good enough speed (the only remaining threat being air units but you can swap the flamers on this specific mech). Jump jets, especially on lights/mediums give an insane boost to mobility that translates to survivability AND deadliness since it enables the MGs (hitting the unarmored back of enemy mechs).
I expected TTB to put all light mechs in F-tier.
I giggled
💯
And then cold storage.
one bit to the Urbie k9, it is fairly cheap for a hero mech, can be purchased from the beginning and is a source for dhs and Uac5 before they are a thing. So Buy dismantle sell.
The Javelins are bloody God-tier for your AI crew. Never again lose precious C-Bills having to replace weapons because of the AI as they have no arm-mounted weaponry. Whether its the M-Laser or SRM version, they also do very good damage.
Plus… that goddamn swagger they have when running around the warzone makes them an absolute delight to watch. 😅
People should also keep in mind, these are just stock loadouts, which you're virtually never going to keep intact.
And unfortunately MW5 has a bizarre system where hardpoints have "sizes". A lot of builds are just impossible.
MW5 is unplayable without mods, particularly Yet Another Mech Lab(known in the community as YAML), which adds MWO style modifications, removing hardpoint sizes, adding engines. If you like the MWO-style mech lab, you need to grab YAML for MW5.
@@Shadowburn2 This. Vanilla MW5 is unplayable to me, I will literally not play it whenever an update breaks the mods.
@Shadowburn2 do any of the dlcs fix this for console players. I've got the heroes one already. This game is so addictive I was thrown off by early reviews even though I loved mw2 and mw2 back in the day. Which I had a gaming pc rig. Never wanted to play mods so much in my life lol. Also does anyone play this for the story/read all the news lore
If and when you do mediums, the BLJ-A The Arrow, with six machine guns, deletes even assault mechs incredibly fast. Nothing funnier than ripping Comstar assault lances to shreds with six machine guns.
CN9-D is completely over powered also.
Dervish 7D is great, but Vulcan takes the spot for my favorite medium mech
I keep seeing people swear by machine gun spam but to me it's not that amazing? It's alright but I have to be up in their face and time to kill isn't like spectacular so I always end up trading more damage than I would like compare to other weapon setups I employ.
I agree the hero blackjack with high tier machine guns and no jump engines so you can have more armour is awesome...for those who don't like the short range of the mg...remember let your lance mates start the fight, run round behind the target and delete them in seconds..I always get this mech on my playthroughs and now with solaris arena fights it really pays for itself :-)
As a light mech enthusiast I disagree about half of your choices, especially on the large energy hardpoint ones, thanks to the addition of PPC-X these bad boys can do some serious work, in fact I've done full campaign runs with 4 lights and 1 ppc x and we never even lost the weapon let alone the fight, I'd put them in high A tier maybe S. Also since you don't have mods, you don't know which mechs come with endo steel or xl engines etc.
I think this tier list is made from the perspective of using lights as sluggers, which only really works out in very early game when facing only other lights.
All that goes out of the window fairly quickly though once you are looking at 200+ ton drops with a light mech lance. All that matters at this point is how much firepower you can unload into the rear of the enemy, and how good your evasion is if you are anywhere else than behind them.
Depends, do you have YAML? Absolutely, I give the AI javelins and an archer and the only problem I have is that they core literally everything in a few min. Vanilla? Nah man. There just isn't enough customization to make most mechs viable.
I remember having a lot of fun with 8 flamers on the firestarter A.
Then again, I only ever started using light mechs just to rush down those damn artillery positions on most maps ._.
This might have been patched by now I remember hearing that flamers were incredibly OP compared to how they are in other games where they verge on totally useless.
@@stormthrush37 I think they still are OP
After 5 mins I realized that's mw5 not mwo 😅
What's better?
@@lordsysop MW5 is better on modern hardware; MWO only runs well on 10 year old computers because of it's ancient CryEngine game engine which the devs are unable to update as support for it was dropped sometime in 2015 as Crytek went belly up. MWO has a loading screen memory leak which after 3 or 4 missions crashes late generation GTX cards (800 series onwards) for some reason the memory leak doesn't effect RTX chips as they use a different architecture to GTX. MWO only runs well on AMD hardware, one of the few games which does, but mainly because of how old the engine is. MWO has way more mech customisation, such as decals, cockpit accessories, attachments and the almost complete library of mechs from the setting up till 3087. MW5 has melee combat.
Graphics are roughly the same, MWO has more detailed cockpits with cockpit data screens; Though MW5 supports ray tracing, also PGI has no idea how to correctly set up Unreal Engine, so to stop MW5 toasting your GPU make sure to turn on V-Sync because it will max out your GPU in the menus and in out of mech scenes without it.
MWO is a free to play multiplayer only service game with a similar monetisation system to Warframe which is 13 years old at this point, it's combat system is very arcade like with ghost heat, nerfed Electronic Warfare, LRMs and Gauss; The game is so old that it is hard for new players to enjoy the game because they get clowned on by people who have been playing for over 12 years who have everything min/maxed. MW5 is a co-op/singleplayer game set between 3015 and 3050, as the game campaign progresses, lostech goes from being rare to being common and as the years tick by new mechs and technologies start showing up, such as the Commando 1B and the Raven, it is a sort of real time simulation of Battletech which is mostly unscripted with the map changing over the course of the story as new factions rise and the great houses swap control over territory during the late stage 3rd succession war. The DLC covers the 4th succession war and other major events. Unlike MWO which has multiple gameplay issues, MW5 feels very much like MW4 combat wise, except without all the jank, also, no ghost heat.
"S tier light will die to any tier assault" good for a chuckle but cant help but stare at MWO and watch assault players get bullied by lights on a daily
In the early game, I love getting one or two Fleas to replace Locusts. I put SB Lasers on and the AI works well with them. Getting your pilots over 2 in Maneuvering helps a ton.
Aside from hardpoints, which I think are only really important if you plan on piloting the mech yourself, speed and profile have a huge impact on how often you get hit. Where the Locust is usually fast enough to avoid being targeted the Flea and Commando get hit a lot more often. I switched my Jenner with a Panther for arena missions and the Panther gets chewed up a lot more.
The arena missions change things for lights. Flamers have the shortest range but deal good dmage and seem to be pretty good at causing your targets to shut down. MGs in large numbers deal silly amounts of damage but also have very short range. Try going into arena missions with tricked out Firestarters. In addition the EMC Firestarters are straight upgrades to the 9A. A good AMS will eat SRMs and the black market EMS significantly reduces enemy accuracy.
Not sure he plays light mechs much..cause he does not know what he is doing
8 machine gunz and 130kph, is deadly in the right hands. 130 you say? Yes because of the upgrades. And if you are counting hero mechs, you then have to account for upgrades as well. And the right upgrades, in the right hands, makes all the difference.
Edit: love the effort, love the continued excitement for big stompy robots, love the channel(subbed), and let's go access to clan tech.
been using the Spider -A hero on infiltration, it actually is pretty useful there (speed, jumpy, etc)
it's even better when you use the black-market upgrades to boost speed by 15% and add armor
"An S tier light isn't going to be able to kill an assault". I haven't played since kestrel lancers so I dunno if it got nerfed but firestarter was my dedicated anti assault mech. I literally went through the entire lancer campaign piloting the firestarter
I know it’s a lot of work, but I actually liked this a lot. I like different stuff than you, but I find this an interesting challenge to my own opinions of each of these Mechs :)
I just spent two days binging Mechwarrior content to get some context of what you're saying.
And I've decided that, when I install the game later this week, I'll just use your tierlist as a keep/sell checklist. :v
You can always hop into the livestream to ask questions!
Well thanks TTB, very useful when we kick off our campaign co-op play. Take notes Verradin XD
The k9 urbie is great I promise A or B for that lil badass
FSR-FS deletes mediums and heavies fast as heck while strafing. It deserves S-tier.
these lights with lots of hardpoints and short ranged weapons remind me of that monke from simpsons with the knife on drugs.
Note the SDR-5D can fit a Large Laser, with difficulty. I suck piloting Spiders myself, but I found if I equip one with jump jet upgrades, AI pilots with good Maneuvering levels can be quite effective with them.
For the Jenners, I like to run 4xML (SB work better if I have them), 1xSRM2, 1 Heat Sink, and a 1/2 Ton SRM Ammo. With one SRM2, a half ton is plenty.
Flea fan here! Besides the early lore variants ( * cough * F-4 ) its a menace! Its the bit slower but more firepowered cousin of the Locust which I also love. Raven and Firestarter are my 3rd and 4th chouce😁
Maybe it’s a different case on the higher difficulty. But I love taking my flea-15 out with my ai pilots on assault and heavy mechs. I can make up for a lot of tonnage with the good damage it can put out.
Nope that FS9-X1 is much better than that. It doesn't have to be 8MGs, I play it 6MGs, 2Light rifles. Works great. Almost no heat buildup, very sufficient firepower and it's faster than any other FS9. Its on par with A variant if not better.
I just found your Tier List videos and they're really useful. Cheers TTB. Not happy that you kicked our arses in the last comp though... Mercu [Redcoats Expendables]
I apologize for nothing! Also, ggs :)
they need to add a stat called "evasion" like in stellaris to light mechs, makes the enemy miss you
With the "new" Solaris Arena missions this is especially useful. i love "4 vs 4" light and "team" light mech missions.
But i have to disagree with the Panther sorting. midgame you dont field light mechs at all (aside from Arena fights) but early game Panther 9R is my light mech and tank killer. A Tier if not S Tier.
Ravens are a thing? By the time i see one in a run, i am already in late mid game to early late game. which means the only use for them would be in arena fights... and there they look like locust replacement at best.
But looks like i should give the Solaris Urbi a try and the wolfhound when i see them in my current run.
You have a short vid for Vanilla light mech lances for the arena? what would you field, what mech would you personally control and what mechs work best in the hands of the AI?
Thanks for the video; I'd love to see the same thing for the other mech classes! Is there a reason you didn't use Tiermaker for this though? There might even be icon sets for the mechs already uploaded by other users.
If you actually read their terms of service you would not use Tierlistmaker. You're basically giving them license to use you or your brand for free perpetually. Hell no.
i think the light mechs are there as specialists. in normal fights they suck, but you only use them for certain stuff.
i use the firestarters in missions, where i can destroy buildings artillery and stuff very fast to reduce damage done to my lance. so in this the machine guns are ok.
i used it for the mission, where you get the hero king crab for example, because in any slower mechs my lance took too much damage before the artillery fire stopped and you could actually reduce the enemy numbers.
I've recently started playing the game and found this video (and comments) extremely helpful. Are you planning on doing another video covering Medium, Heavy.. etc?
Yes, I've just been inexcusably lazy. It's a lot of work fiddling in all the pictures and designations. But thanks for the reminder :)
@@TTBprime I look forward to watching them. I'm a massive procrastinator as well. I get it. 🙃
Flamers in mw5 are very, very strong. Legit cooks the mech. I ran 9 flamers on a hunchback 4P and it just kills things.
we didn't need to decide that S was better than A. A, B, C, D
Eagerly waiting for the medium mech tier list!
Coming soon™
@@TTBprime Thank you!
Don't know why you hate MGs. They are pretty good against mech backs. Cut armor and crit everything inside from behind.
That’s sad the spiders were my favorite to use in MWO
Im Adding a D tier
All Comandos are D Tier Even the Hero Comando
All Fleas are D tier
All Ravens are D tier As a Utility they are C Tier
All Locusts are C Tier even the Hero version (Yes they are better than Commandos )
All Spiders are C Tier even the Hero The JuMp Kets is Crucial to their movement taking them out hurts them .
Urban are D Tier unless you can put Jump Jets on them .
All Javelins are A Tier and Hero Javelin is S tier.
All Fire Starters are B Tier and the Hero is A tier
2 Machine guns equals a 1 AC 2 just so you know In Mechwarrior 5 Mercs . 4 MGs is 2 AC 2s at the fraction of Tonnage . Yes the Down side is range BUT no Heat.
Merc 5 doesn't know the Different of Damage types It treats all DMG types the same just strait HPS.
Jenners are B Tier after a refit . Jenners stock are a C tier . The Hero is C tier its a bad hero mech.
All Pather's are D Tier they are slow and have a High Hit Profile rating for a Light mech. Advantage of a Light Mech is suppose to be hard to hit. The Panther is Easy to hit.
do you will bring for every class a tier list? would be great!
I will never forgive you for not putting my beloved hero raven in s tier
Should do this for online
I find everyone will always have a different opinion on almost everything in this game
It's a nice vid. As a new player though, It is important to know WHY you put a mech in a particular bracket. I understand that it would be incredibly complicated to explain. I will kook elsewhere. Thanks.
It's all about burst or sustained firepower and the ability to destroy enemy mechs. Speed, maneuverability etc. does not matter as you're playing against AI all the time and they hit or miss based on dice rolls.
@@TTBprime Thanks! I think I sorted out chain fire against tanks after the first few missions. I did not know that about RNG hits though. Makes sense.
@@TTBprime Those dice rolls heavily depend on angular velocity though, and to a lesser extend on absolute velocity. Your AI lance mates make very good use of this fact as well, one of the things (or maybe even the only thing) PGI really did nail with the AI is circling.
Don't sleep on the LCT-1E, that is one hell of a light mech if used right, I'll gladly take one over anything you have in your S-tier to be honest.
Same applies to the JR7-D, though I'd never rip out the SRMs, that is a huge portion of the firepower. Removing one jump jet from the stock configuration for some extra arms armor makes sense though, otherwise it is fine as it is.
It's really biased, it's like he doesn't know what he's talking about (even though he plays a lot).
For example getting rid of jump jets straight away is a really assault-only-player thing to do.
you do know he is only talking about the light mechs not compared
to others?
Вспомнил как выглядит MW5 vanilla - аж плакать захотелось... Без YAML, YAW e t.c. Mechlab лысый абсолютно...😒
AI lance is o you put me in a commando watch me get cored in the first fight lol every time lol.
your missing a lot of light mechs here or are these just the lowest of the lows
You vastly underestimate the Raven-Huggin. It offers buffs to MG range and damage.
Ever play with the mod that increases all weapon slots to the next size and have a locust with a light rifle
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Why are you explaining what tierlists in 2024?????????????
Because a lot of people don't understand how they work, and because it's good practice to explain your ranking criteria.
What a stupid tier list, you should be considering the overall effectiveness for various tasks.
Jump jets are mandatory on light mechs for evasion, gap closing, getting in and out of cover...
For example you can trivialize raid and demolition missions with a single mech like the firestarter E with MGs, jump jets and good enough speed (the only remaining threat being air units but you can swap the flamers on this specific mech).
Jump jets, especially on lights/mediums give an insane boost to mobility that translates to survivability AND deadliness since it enables the MGs (hitting the unarmored back of enemy mechs).
Sounds like you should be making the tier lists with the stats you value most. Send me the link afterwards and I'll let you know my thoughts!
Wow what a horrid grading system….
Woah woah woah the delta commando in garbage tier? Place a B laser on that thing.
first!